♪ ♪ >> sean: programming reminder this wednesday 9:00 eastern, six pacific, spanning 20 with former president donald trump. texas governor greg abbott. live from the texas-mexico border. all the time we have. please set your dvr and let not your heart be troubled. ben domenech filling in for the vacationing laura. you're right. i'm been domenech and this -- tonight we start with the failures of the country's top general. we would be forgiven if you thought general mark milley and senior leadership was to break his own army.

and the country has. general milley's reputation of are include episodes of profound blundering a persistent misunderstanding of the national interest and a dangerous willingness to politicize the army of the united states. to list just a few, general provided of the diocese roll out of the army combat fitness test. the ac ft is a misguided, unrealistic, and expensive effort to essentially compel the entire army to do crossfit. the general ignored numerous voices within the army warning against the new test, those voices were vindicated, and today, the ac ft is now a byword for leadership. he tried to stonewall the army's own reports on his performance in the iraq war running interference to keep the army's mistakes from being aired in public. he relented only after public pressure that never should have been necessary. general milley presided over historic recruiting crisis for the army especially but also for the armed forces at large.

but he did bring back second world war style uniforms which is a reminder of when her arm he would not commit a war. speaking of winning, general milley's record will likely include presiding over america's defeat in afghanistan. culminating in the fall of cabal -- in a series of massacres they are after. while our national failures in afghanistan extend across two decades, it's worth noting his voice has been absent from the public square on this point. you would expect they general to want to win. general milley was a major force undermining the constitutional authority of the president of united states during insurrectionary summer of 2020. while american cities were literally on fire in the grip of a violent uprising with a body count and for pervasive fear, he assumes the role of preventing the president from using his lawful authority during piecing order to our communities. he made it his mission to deny the american people the lawful and constitutional aid of their own armed forces. it was nelly who apologized for appearing with the president following the now infamous clearance of lafayette square

despite the fact wilber early this month that the clearing was preplanned and not the president's doing. >> i should not have been there. my presence in that moment and in that environment created a perception of the military involved in domestic politics as a commissioned uniform loss of her, it was a mistake that i learned from. and i sincerely hope we all can learn from it. >> ben: general milley also defended the slow erratic and uncertain national guard response to january 6th overrunning of the u.s. capital as superfast and sprint speed. earning the justified version of the speaker of the house and anyone who bothered to watch television at the time. but who are you going to believe a question like the chairman of the joint chiefs or your own lying eyes? that's a public record of general mark milley. and any organization but the federal government, any single one of these steps would have sent him out the door. instead, like every other d.c. creature, the latter leads only upwards for so long as you stay

in the good graces of the right people. don't misunderstand me. mark milley mark milley isn't even slightly unusual in his fear. our armed forces remain in the stronghold of brave patriots. once you get that first door on, things change. advancement becomes about subjective politics, not empirical outcomes. when your next job in your next promotion depend on the vote of the united states senate, their priorities become your own, and you start to resemble a senator more and more than a general lesson less. so look past mark milley for a moment. look at the disaster of an air for spending billions on aircraft that still don't quite work. look at the disaster of the navy's accident-prone fleet, supposedly our first line of defense against an aggressive china. look the men and women responsible, all the generals, all the admirals, mark milley is one of them. the crisis of our armed forces is in fact -- in the fact that he is ordinary. >> there are over 50 books in my reading list. always looking inwardly and

being honest with ourselves in areas that we need to improve. >> i have read mao zedong. i read column marks. i've read london. that does not make me a communist. >> i'm putting china and russia out there. that is not in conflict with the knowledge meant that climate change or infrastructure or education systems national security has a broad angle to it. >> ben: this is a group of leaders who are masters at political climate, media engagement, and spending trillions in your taxpayer dollars. even get the praise of one useful media idiot after another whose natural inclination is to "yes queen "to anyone who agrees not matter how obvious is they fail in any measure of success at their actual job. keep in mind these flaunted leaders have not won wars since february 28th 1991. the stories as much about the failure of united states military as an institution as it is about mainly the man. we get with the system gives us. if we don't fight against it, it's what we deserve.

in this case, a series of aging politicians who can't win wars. we used to recall the generals from retirement to serve during a time to work, now that they've become so political to hang around until they are eventually pushed out, usually in a swirl of controversy in years past the mandatory retirement. there is little difference between the brains of these generals and any other major brand that has declined in recent years. desperate to distract you from their own failure, they see something else. anything else to turn criticism of their performance into an act that indicates racism, bigotry, guilt, or dishonor on the part of any critic. that's how you end up with a person who is more focused on perceived domestic issues than on preparing the american armed forces to contain, to dietary, and if necessary, to win a war with china. so if you look at general mark milley, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff's, put on an issue of indignation in the face of entirely justified ceiling oversight as he did a few days back in response to sharp congressional questions on

whether the military has gone woke just know that is all for show. >> i personally find it offensive that we are accusing the united states military, our general officers, our commission, noncommissioned officers of being woke or something else because we are studying some theories that are out there. >> ben: so what if i told you, general milley, that officer of the united states army addressed the 2020 graduates of the national defense university with an affirmation that america is guilty of centuries of injustice toward african-americans. that america is afflicted with an original sin and jamestown 401 years ago. and further, that our country features structural preferences, patterns of mistreatment and unspoken and unconscious bias. would you say that officer is woke? would be offended at the term? would you acknowledge that this officer parroting the pages of the 1619 project is voicing the exact ideology your congressional questioners allege?

i don't have to ask you the hypothetical. those words are yours, that officer's view, in this country and the brave men and women of every race, color, and creed who serve in her defense deserve better. joining me now is j.d. vance, venture capitalist, iraq war veteran, and author of "hillbilly elegy." i know that you got into a little bit of internet flack for pushing back against what you heard from general milley recently. just give me your reaction to what you heard and what it represents as a form of leadership within our current u.s. armed forces's. >> so much to say but the most obvious thing is that these people use accusations of white rage and white privilege to deflect from the fact that they are failures. general milley as you mentioned in the opening monologue hasn't really won a war in his entire time in military service and is not because his troops who have served bravely it's because of the military leadership that is effectively become political

stooges in washington, d.c. i would like the general to read a lot less about white rage and read a lot more about how to not lose a war because that is what he has failing a and that is the job we pay him for. >> ben: it is infuriating to me to see what you're describing here going on time and again under both administrations. with the obama and trump administration struggled with this. you have seen this happen over the course of years. insulated d.c. operator generals who are really not assessed on the measure that we ought to assess them by. what can be done to change that? because that seems to be something that is not a permanent feature of what we deal with in washington. >> we could force the generals who have gone woke to effectively retire. but if you really think about -- basically telling people who are upset, as set about the words we are finding are the subject about the fact we haven't -- is basically telling them to

shut out because when you think about what this accusation of white rage was really about, it's about telling people who are justifiably angry about the conditions of their own country to stop complaining, reflect on their privilege, instead of actually voicing their concerns and are constitutional republic. so i -- because they are not doing the job. it's more than that. more than not doing their job but they're actually failing to listen to the frustration of the american public and instead effectively parroting the talking points of the left and telling them to shut up. >> ben: you made a point which i think is so important. the message that this sentence to the communities across the country many working-class communities and the like that essentially diminishes everything that they are complaining about into a form of racism. it rejects everything that they are arguing for her as being unacceptable and coming from a place of bigotry. to me, that's a very dangerous

message to send because if you don't have some of these young men going into the armed forces, they can go in very different directions. that could be very negative and bad for the country and for themselves. how can we prevent that from happening? >> is a great marine corps commandant said the marine corps does to go things for this country it wins wars and makes marines. unfortunately, so much of our military leadership doesn't appreciate that a really robust and powerful military can and should be doing those things. it should be making soldiers and marines and it should be winning more. you're exactly right that a president benefits from a robust military by having on women and -- acquiring skills and come out back into the civilian world. but if we are counseling pointing her finger at people and telling them that white privilege, suffer from white rage, if we basically turn the military into another woke institution then we are going to tell a lot of people who benefit from the military that they are actually not welcome. that's a disaster for this

country. that so many americans not feel like they're welcome in their own military. how are you going to raise the next generation of citizen soldiers if the military is no longer a respectable institution in our country and it won't be respected institution of our country are people like mark milley keep on sounding like idiots. >> ben: i want to thank you for joining me. i know have a big announcement later this week. i look forward to seeing with potholes. >> thanks >> ben: the scourge of critical race theory is most acutely felt in our schools. parents all over the country now see the evils being perpetrated by activist school boards and teachers. but how do you fight back outside by just pushing for things like more school choice question might join me now is cora, national director of research at the american federation for children. thanks so much for coming on. >> thanks for having made. >> ben: it seems like we are at this point of inflection on education in america where people are waking up to what's

not just going on right now, boa has been going on for a long time. and we all heard the normal list of answers that conservatives and pro-school choice people have. charter schools and vouchers and things like that. it seems to me like this is a point, though, were a much bigger answer is required in order to meet the demands of parents who are absolutely infuriated with what they see. so what does that look like? >> i will say there aren't any perfect solutions, but the best solution that we have in front of us is school choice, what i cool funding students directly. so he went would allow families to take their children's education dollars to whatever educational institution works best for this that aligns best with their values and another benefit there is a provides bottom of the accountability for the traditional schools to change their curriculum to align with families because they wouldn't want to lose theory -- those education dollars going forward. i know that's not the answer you're looking for though so i will give you a couple of other approaches that we can take.

one is take back the school boards. already fighting back and going to school board meetings and pushing back and that's a great move in the right direction to make their voices heard. they also need to get involved in the school board elections. and one way to do that and one way to make it more fair for families is to align school board elections with general elections as opposed to in random months during the summer where you get a low turnout and the teachers union takes over and essentially gets whoever they want into office or into the school board. so a way of putting the school board elections with a general election will increase turnout and increase the likelihood that conservatives will make their way to the school board >> ben: i have seen all sorts of background information, polling that has been done, that illustrates today across the country a massive -- and not even motivated by conservative or politically active parents -- movement of opposition to what they view as teachers unions that put their kids learning on the back burner during this

entire past year and a half. what can be done to seize this opportunity and speak to a lock to a people who have not been politically engaged on these issues historically? >> just be engaged in their school board meetings and families are already doing that all across the country but the solution here that pendley should have at the top of the list is school choice or what i call funding students directly. if you don't like what's going on in your class or many of you like your child is being indoctrinated or brainwashed, should ask for your children's education dollars facts you can go somewhere else right away and you don't have to wait years for change to happen. so i think that's about solution, and that's what family should have at the top of their list for what they should be asking for because you might not be in the majority and i think that if we want to live in a pluralistic society we should not force our views on the rest of the population in the public school system and instead let people go to the schools that work best for them. then he would not have forced camille does have freedom. >> ben: just quickly come i think one of the biggest

problems i've had during this whole thing is just learning how protected so many of these teachers are from any consequences for their actions that would get your average person in any other career fired in terms of so many distant instances of things we have seen happen. is there anyway to have ramifications for teachers who have religious gone into a crazy direction and have said some really heinous things about the children, their parents, et cetera that we have seen come out on social media? >> unfortunately as we've seen over the past year and in particular the teachers unions are a cause of a lot of the problems here. so you could have teachers opting out of the teachers union which would -- the 28th -- but also school choice would provide bottom of accountability for the public school teachers to change how they engage with students in the classroom and so there is some type of accountability built in that way.

i also think transparency is really important. so pushing for bills that would require schools to show what they are actually teaching so sunlight can be the best disinfectant. >> ben: what a revolutionary concept. the right to know what they are teaching them. thank you for coming on. as a crime wave death toll climbs, democrats are revealing how much they really care about your safety. not at all. victor davis hanson pulls back the curtain on the left latest gaslighting. and speaking of crime, kamala harris' board of trade didn't include a single mention of the attic to control activity around the border. more on that, next.

♪ ♪ >> ben: chicago is no stranger to violence, but the city is on track for one of its bloodiest years and decades. just this past weekend, there were six killed and 74 wounded in shootings. one of the victims was a 14-year-old girl. the crime epidemic spread to a "new york times" iconic times square where a tourist, and active-duty u.s. marine, was hit by stray bullets. it's a second shooting in times square and just two months. most americans, it is obvious who to blame. democrats who have got into their -- and embrace blm. realizing this, democrats have conjured up new scapegoats for the rise in crime.

>> they are very good at saying on talking points of who says deep on the place but the truth is, they defunded the police. speak at the american rescue plan, state and local funding, something that was supported by the president, by the by the to democrats who supported and voted for the bill could help ensure local comps were kept on the beat and communities across the country. as you know, didn't receive a single republican vote. >> ben: they are also blaming our men and women in blue. >> officers now we see across these 18,000 police departments are but hurt because they can't run willy-nilly through a police department and a use with reckless abandon so they are stepping away from specialized units. too cowardly to quit. bad guys know the cops are responding. >> ben: of course, aoc thinks your concern is the problem. >> we are seeing these headlines about the percentage increases. i want to say that any amount of harm is unacceptable and too

much, but i also want to make sure that the hysteria -- that this does not drive hysteria and that we look at these numbers in context. >> ben: joining me now is victor davis hanson, senior fellow at the hoover institution. victor, this seems to be some pretty shocking gaslighting to me. what do you think? >> you will know them by their fruit, and they are on record, so remember when the last few years he was don't the maren alta moore that she said she gave ryder space to burn and a terrible summer we had last year, the mayor in minneapolis, remember when he said after the torching of the police precinct he said that she has brick-and-mortar and then in seattle, he said well, it doesn't matter if they occupy and take over part of seattle. it's the summer of love. and so whether it is the d.a. and los angeles county or the d.a. in san francisco county who are letting out people not

willy-nilly, but the plans, because they don't believe these crimes are really crimes. remember it was the architect of the 1619 project that's had looting and theft was not really violence. they don't believe these things are crimes. and they can't really blame the republicans, not just because the data is not there and they are on record, but their own party foundation and base one with them. because their own party doesn't think that's a crime really matters. these people -- they are neo-marxist and it's sort of like a million people die and one person dies of the tragedy. a million people died say to statistic. crime is so out of control they feel like that's the collateral damage for a more fair justice system. so i don't think -- i think they are not going tonight because their party and aoc foundation will not let them deny. spew and he creates his the new parents who know how much damage this did to their cause in the last election who are trying to be clinically savvy are trying -- they are grasping at straws

trying to find something to seize on that will allow them to spin this away. but they can keep being issued by the people in their lab tour like we believe believes these crazy things. >> and that's exactly right. and that's the model they have for all of these issues. they wanted an open border. 2 million people within a 12 month period will come lawfully. it's only a optics that will she is -- it's only when the optics are such that they don't hold 51% and the establishment says to the base wait a minute, he goes, we have to hold onto power over you will be out of a job too. so clean up your act and fake a little bit better than you are doing. but i don't think they can do it because -- it's not just the big cities. i'm in fresno county. the murder rate here in the first five months is 325% above last year. it's everywhere.

and they created and they own it and some people are happy with them others are a little bit smarter and think the optics are bad. >> ben: speaking of bad optics, freshman jamaal bowman is a vocal proponent of defunding the police but here's the thing according to "the new york post," a champion of defunding cops claims policing is rife with white supremacy asked for and received a special police detail to guard his home. over and over again, we see this thing where it's police for meat but not for. i am the important one who needs to be protected. if you pollute your sewer, if they damage of property, well, that is over the course of systemic racism. that's just a drop in the bucket. >> that's a foundational -- the architects of this chaos are never subject to the consequences of their ideology. remember john kerry said i can't operate if i don't have a carbon

spewing private jet. how could i win the battle of green. i have to move my yacht over to rhode island. i should have to pay taxes. that's the way they feel, the platonic guardian that to be exempted so they can help the poor people like us. >> ben: it's nancy pelosi saying i need my haircut i have to go on tv. victor, thank you so much for joining us. speaking of rising crime, kamala harris kamala harris somehow managed to travel to the border last week had not once mention the rent in criminal activity there. not hard to see why. cartels, human traffickers are only able to operate with impunity because of the policies of this administration. joining us now is john daniel davidson. john, you made a good point that it's actually not appropriate to call kemal's trip a border -- >> that's right. she didn't go. she flew into the airport, went to a border patrol station. i think she meant was some

immigration activist and then she went back to the airport for a photo op and then left without ever having seen anything, done anything, or said anything of any consequence or substance whatsoever. it was pure theater. >> ben: a typical kamala visit in other words. >> only little bit less substantive than her trip to mexico and guatemala. >> ben: i know that you've been covering for many years now at the federalists issue of how much the border is now operated for and by the mexican cartels. tell me a little bit about some of the things that you have learned over the course of covering the story that i think most americans would still be shocked by at this day. >> we need to think about the border not as a place where gangs or smugglers can sort of stink across and are kind of running these small-time operations and these little inflatable rafts. the illegal immigration at the southwest border has been an

industrialized. a massive market that brings in billions of dollars for multinational criminal organizations. and we have talked about this before, the way to think about this is if halliburton was in the business of drugs and human trafficking. that is what is going on at the southwest border. i do don't hear about it because the media doesn't let us talk about it, it's hard story to cover, and certainly democrats in power don't want to draw attention to what is happening down there. >> ben: one of the things i things out to make astounding it's at -- and they didn't recognize the systems that didn't used to exist now exist and are completely as you say industrialized. what are the levels that we are seeing right now and what should we expect to happen when it comes to the border over the coming months? >> the border is going to get more deadly in the coming months. going to get hotter, more people are going to die, gets lost in the desert, get lost on the ranchlands in south texas. we are already seeing that it's a hot june here in texas and is going to get much worse in july,

august, and september as it does every year. the volumes that we are seeing right now is trending upward. usually in other years -- comparable -- start seeing a decline after the spring months. the month over month now we see having an increase and that tells me there is a huge pent-up demand to come into this country probably because of the pandemic and because of difficulties in central america. and the other thing is the profit motive for these cartels and smuggling networks as they are. they are making too much money to stop bringing people into the country. some estimates, 14, $15 million per day at the southwest border. when that kind of money is on the table, they're going to keep people coming through. >> ben: i know the weight that the media covered the border crisis under the previous administration and they seem to be perfectly happy to be shut out of all of these facilities not able to see what is going on with them today. is there any kind of awareness of hypocrisy on their part?

>> not at all, but it is amazing. the total media blackout. we cannot see inside any of these facilities. there is no border right along, there are no access to agents. the trump administration was very open about the border because they wanted the american people to know what was going on, even when things were bad they are in 2019. the biden administration has walked the border down and most of corporate media seem happy with. >> ben: thank you so much for joining me. coming up, signs of biden's decline bringing down the hammer pick, and make a wish tells terminal kids they need to get vaccinated. raymond arroyo breaks it all down for us in "seen and unseen" up to next.

♪ ♪ >> ben: time now for a "seen and unseen" where we expose the big cultural stories of the day. and for that we turn to fox news contributor raymond arroyo. raymond, jill biden had a meeting with the president of

israel. how did that go? >> as expected. i don't want to prejudice this but when it is over, you tell me how you feel about those air strikes in syria over the weekend. take a look. >> and -- i directed last week's air strikes targeting site -- for responsible for e -- i also want to be clear as i said my team and i are working closely with the israeli government that took office earlier this month. >> poor soul. it would've been better to have the defense secretary or someone else read the stop. clearly having some difficulty spirit it actually makes you worry about who is running the show here. then there is that gesture in the media barely covered this event. there is this gesture we have seen before where biden rings his hands. that's called perseveration

where people repeat when they are in decline. gestures or phrases. i'm not here to diagnose him, but this is deeply troubling, and it is getting worse. now how do you feel about those syrian air strikes? see you and your telling me that in addition to probably being illegal by any measure, those also might have just been things that just got going around in certain areas. it had to tell you, that does not make me feel good whatever it would say better. >> it's heartbreaking. there's a part of it that is heartbreaking. kim jong un's weight loss got more coverage in the media than this date, and this is far more grave and importance. speaking of inappropriate gestures, american hammer thrower bronze medalist staged her own protest against the flag and the national anthem on saturday paired when the flag was unfurled, she turned away at part her hands on her hips and hips and rolled her eyes threw her activist athlete shirt over her head. >> ben: she said i feel like

it was a set up and they did on purpose. i was passed, to be honest. raymond, how is it a set up to hear the national anthem after an olympic event? had she not seeing what they typically do? >> this is a hold points. now the whole country's past and not just her. when you make a contract, you make good on that contract. you follow through. this woman has many contract could. she wants to represent the united states in the olympics. this is her child. and when she gets there, she disparages and protests against the country. it's just not the right venue for this. a professional athletes want to do that, that's one thing. this is entirely different. >> ben: you are representing the flag obviously. the white house defended glenn berry today. >> part of that in our country means recognizing there moments where we as a country have not lived up to our highest ideals and a means respecting the of people granting in the

constitution to peacefully protest. >> they are not here to protest, they are here to perform. you know? remember the goodwill games. ted turner had the goodwill games? we should have the protest games and they can have the hundred yard copper chase. the long distance molotov toss. we can do those things they are. but these olympic trials, is not the place for protests. >> ben: i just think that when it comes to performances like this, it is obviously meant to take away from the fact that she came in third and to -- make that appeal. you forget the fact that colin kaepernick ranked 34th out of 32 quarterbacks feared that he got benched. just the sort of thing that goes away when you perform in this manner. >> have to get attention somehow. this is how they do it. finally, the ceo and president of the make-a-wish foundation made an alarming statement about

their post-pandemic which is late last week and it's really disturbing. >> all participants will need to be two weeks pass completion of either a windows or two dose vaccine. >> the vaccine is only approved for children over 12 years old. these are terminally ill children who in some cases cannot take the covid vaccine. 29 them their wish as they face eternity is not only cruel, it's frankly absurd and a cuts against the entire reason for this foundation. >> ben: foundation is now clarifying their stance a we respect everyone's freedom of choice. make-a-wish will continue to make wish them -- not require anyone to get vaccinated to receive a wish. i'm glad that they reconsider, but whoever had this idea in the first place needs to really get their head checked. >> but that statement is a bit deceiving because when you read deeper you realize they are saying everyone will be considered to receive a wish.

however, if you are not vaccinated, there will be no flights, there will be no large gatherings for you. that is cruel. since most of these kids want to go to disney world, that is off the table for them. they can only do a local wish fulfillment. i'm sorry. these babies come in these families are traumatized. they know what your risk is every day of their lives. you let them embrace and you let these kids and these families enjoy their time together. that's why this place exists. and i hope make-a-wish, who has done great work in the past, reconsiders. it's a stupid policy. >> ben: i agree with you. thank you so much for coming on. lockdown hysteria seems to be spreading faster than the virus, and now it has reached our own shores. "the ingraham angle" medicine cabinet reacts, next. and you need it here. and here.

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♪ ♪ >> ben: the delta variant of coed has reignited lockdown mania across the world. roughly 70% of australia's population now live under some sort of lockdown restrictions, including residents of sydney were being forced into their homes. two of much raven putting limits on toilet paper purchases. how bad is it there? less than 200 active cases as of earlier today. the they aren't alone. tylan and south africa are also

have shutdowns and japan and germany are throwing up severe travel restrictions. and of a shutdown history has reached our shores. today the los angeles department of public health is urging people regardless of vaccination status to mask up indoors. here knows dr. harvey, epidemiology -- and are we about to see a resurgence of lockdown policies in parts of this country? >> thanks for having me. i hope not. these lockdowns are completely unnecessary. it's an overreach. the dental variance, the mildest one we have seen so far, and even though it will proportionally take up a greater number of cases and we expect to see in the united states has a very low mortality. appears to be the most treatable strain that we have seen so far, and we're going to keep patients out of the hospital. >> ben: seen and once you to believe the sky is falling because of this delta variant.

>> has been vaccinated for these lockdowns to become a thing of the past. >> large parts of the continent are being hunted by this delta variance. this pandemic is far from over. >> russia is witnessing a powerful third wave despite new government guidelines that means that workers in contact with the public will not have to be vaccinated by law if they want to keep their jobs. >> ben: doctor, our governments overreacting to rise in cases from the delta variant? >> come dramatically. as he said, this is a very mild variant and the cases are going to go up. they have gone up quite a bit in the u.k. whereas at the same time the mortality is font and near zero. there is very few hospitalizations also flat. near zero. while the cases are going on. so basically what the reaction to it as a flu or a bad cold for most people to get. >> ben: former fda

commissioner thinks future covid outbreaks will look like this. >> parts of the united states where we don't have a lot of vaccinations and we also don't have a lot of prior infection. those are going to be the more vulnerable parts of this country. it's not going to be as pervasive. we are going to see pockets of the country -- typed or. certain parts of the country we can have a dense outbreak. >> ben: doctor, i'm concerned -- rolling authoritarian responses to situations like this. what do you think about that analysis? >> i think it's completely off base. june 20th we have about 45% of americans that are fully vaccinated. by 77% of those over age 65. we know from the june 18th u.k. technical briefing that 42% of patients who get this variant have already been vaccinated. and from the june 14th report we know that a gradient from those

on vaccinated to partially or fully vaccinated the p value for interaction was not statistically significant meeting the vaccine has no protective effect against the delta variant. no time to rush out and get the vaccine. simply just need to take prudent measures and treat our way through this next way. >> ben: the w.h.o. was blaming getting back to normal for the delta variance bread. >> delta is the most transmissible of the variances identified so far. as some countries -- we are starting to see increases in transmission around the world. new variances are expected and will continue to be reported. we can't prevent it by preventing transmission. >> ben: is the w.h.o. really in a position to give guidance like this given their recent history of spreading so much misinformation or information that is turned out on further inspection to not really hold

out? >> they actually have it backwards because this is a mostly harmless virus that will give more immunity. you wanted to pass there as quickly as possible to get immune. just locking people up will just postpone the inevitable and make more misery on the population. there is no benefit of lockdowns at this point at all. >> ben: senator ron johnson held a press-yard today including people who had suffered adverse effects from the covid vaccine. take a listen. >> the head of my medical team told me that i should get used to being handicapped. >> i'm so fearful that i may have some sort of neurological issue after this. >> why she not back to normal? she was totally fine before this. >> with been robbed of her cognition abilities, our physical abilities. we cannot work, cannot care for our families. >> ben: these cases are rare but senator johnson is being labeled an anti-baxter for raising it quick to mark what

are your thoughts. >> i don't think they are very rare at all and the silence is deafening. we are six months into the vaccine program and we have had no detailed press briefing on vaccine safety. with 387,000 reports in hand, safety reports by the cdc, they have said nothing about them. we have had 21,000 hospitalizations, 21% occur in an individual under age 50. >> ben: thank you both for coming on. jen psaki has her finger on the pulse of medical america.

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