wishes, your hopes during this incredibly difficult time for our families. [speaking spanish] >> harris: we're continuing to cover and watch on "outnumbered" now. that is the mayor of the county of miami, she's given details and one of the big announcements and kayleigh mcenany, my cohost, she announced president biden is going to be there on thursday. >> it's a big deal and day shift, we were told that they didn't have plans going to surfside and now he is going. this is a tragedy of epic proportion when you have 150 missing. we've seen governor ron desantis speak every day on this issue from the

microphone. having the president of united states states there is needed and we look forward to seeing him there. >> it's interesting because what it's the five of us we are discussing president putin at the summit -- president biden! we talked about the contrast. we talked about how in combination, just the position there, how president biden seem to falter. i wonder how it's going to look alongside governor desantis was bent such a show of strength, of really someone everyone's been looking up to showing that day after day. i wonder if we will see that, him going there is to throw his weight around, but i'm wondering if it might backfire. >> one of the things that has come up, apparently off guard, i don't know.

you just heard the mayor saying, she's going to be the one who will meet with engineers, soil experts, to make sure nothing like this happens again. we covered this live yesterday and it was a hot mess sandwich when they got to that question about, what are you going to do and what did you know? democratic leaders whispering behind to the mayor. to the mayor of the city, it was distracting during those moments because you knew that all eyes on the leadership right now and in that county. that 2018 report and what it shows, we have a lot of questions and we are only looking from the outside, imagine the survivors, imagine the to ten people working on that building going, how did we get here and we are able to rule them out. >> that's exactly right.

you talk about the 2018 report which found damage to the concrete. there was a letter sent in 2020 and that letter said about the 2018 findings, there is observable damage that has gone significantly worse. 42-3 years we knew there was damage to this building. it's important we have follow-up questions, it's up for a review and maybe that should have come sooner. >> harris: why are we saying that? we have heard from tenets, they knew before, nights before. just so everyone knows, were not missing the news conference, they translate into spanish now with respect to all those who speak both languages. we will take this moment to continue dissecting what we've just learned. the president is going on thursday and in addition to that there is this pressure to figure out what happened.

what stands out to you? >> now what we are seeing an reaction which is as of this point, four different investigations occurring simultaneously. the county of miami, the national institute, keep in mind, that was the age. >> harris: we will go back to the news conference. let's watch together. >> good afternoon. under the leadership of the mayor, unified -- unified search and rescue, multiple county departments, isd, county attorney office and much others. in addition to our federal,

state, international organization. this is a seamless integration of the resources. they continue to prosper and realize the agencies at this time, over 800 respondents. they are coordinating an effort, unified response and ensuring a successful search and rescue effort. thank you. >> and now the director of florida management. >> good morning, everyone. our update, we have the new system which i'm sure you guys are appreciating. in addition to that, we have 440 state employees involved with on-site response. they do include the state emergency response team, mutual aid, search and rescue team.

we continue to provide assistance as restrooms, showers, buckets, air compressors, and many more. the florida division and logistics team is continuing to support all requests, as of this morning we have 29 individuals who have registered with the assistance program, currently there are 22 organizations that are assisting, i want to let you know that they have advised me that it's virginia task force one, and ohio task force one are on standby waiting any type of resource requests that we may need. it's appropriate to reiterate that we have all the resources we need, we do not need anyone to self deploy and help us. we have plenty of resources.

the florida department of transportation have started to assess the alternate site, the florida department of services continues to search for the warehouse for resource donation. the department of families is coordinating with the county to distribute gift cards for displaced individuals. additionally as a reminder, they have deployed two of their units here for no fee, driver's license and identification cards, vehicle registration to the impacted individuals. i need to remind you those hours were from 11:00 a.m.-5:00 p.m. at the family assistance center. the department of safety vehicles has partnered with the red cross to identify any impacted individuals needing assistance. we know this is a difficult time

for families and first responders in the rescue and recovery efforts. please know florida is here to help you and i think the lieutenant governor for their leadership and allowing us to respond and do what we need to do without hesitation. i want to remind you if you cannot find the resource, you can call florida 211 and we will get you to the site we need you to be associated with. the priority right now is to ensure the county's needs are being met. that the personnel will made on the ground to assist, with all efforts until we are no longer needed. thank you. >> thank you, director and now the department of opportunity. >> good afternoon, everyone. the governor has been making sure state resources are available, thursday day want to assess the situation and since then the opportunity sent to the units here over the weekend.

this once bustling community has shut down to make way for the first responders so they can do what they need to do, for the search and rescue mission. we have spoken with dozens of businesses were putting their needs aside, whether it be through food, cafes, barbershops offering free haircuts. not having their usual business, so there is a need there that needs to be met, we need assistance in doing so, you can send local businesses to florida disaster. florida disaster, the state is requesting the assistance of small business administration at the federal level. we hope to draw down additional funds. the survey they can assess and you will help us bring down as we continue to help those who are suffering not only with families, but local businesses. thank you to the governor and the local community and the federal government for stepping

up. >> thank you mr. secretary. and now the surfside mayor charles bark at. >> good morning, i would like to add a few things to talk about my -- i walked the site this morning. we had overnight, there were issues with some debris falling off the building, the west side of the pile had to be quartered off because it was becoming dangerous to work there, i understand the work still continues, but that area was off until they can get their arms around. the second thing, they've made very good progress. it's apparent. they have the pile down to the point where you can see it, there is great progress with respect to these sites, there is

an overwhelming amounts -- there is an overwhelming amount of workers, rescue workers on the site working with cranes and taking off debris, the work continues. i attended a family meeting this morning. it was informative. they had announced that they were going to be bringing in additional workers which made the families, which made the families obviously -- i could tell there was more relief in the room, there was frustration, there was anger. there was some more questions about why the work has to stop when there is rain, thunderstorms and lightning. the fire chief address that issue and said that he would further -- you would talk to the higher-ups about whether or not that work, it was an interesting comment. the speaker said there risking their lives anywhere, why do we

have to stop? it was an interesting question and he said he would get back to them. one of the other questions, how long can people survive? it was an excellent question. there didn't seem to be a good answer to that. i had several days ago sent them a copy of an article i was sent which dealt exactly with that point. i thought it was very important to let the family members know so i stood up and i talked about what i knew from the article. it talked about several different instances, but the most notable was the one from may 2013 where a woman was pulled from the ruins of a factory in bangladesh 17 days after a collapse. i think as the governor said earlier, nobody is giving up

hope here, nobody is stopping. the work goes on, full force, dedicated to get everyone back of the rubble and reunite them with their families. i've been saying this, we don't have a resource problem. we just got dumped on by some rain but it looks like that's clearing. the work will go on. we will continue to work 100%. thank you. >> thank you, mayor. >> as you all know the governor, lieutenant governor said the particular's and i want to say thank you to all of you for doing the reports in a very humane and proper way and doing it in a way that was the

information for the people. i want to thank you from all of us. that's very important. the world is looking and your news is what is going on. i'm very proud -- i've been through a lot of disasters and sometimes he really can't watch the news because of the way it's presented. i'm very proud of all of you and the work you've done. as i am proud of the first responders and one of them that we haven't mentioned too much, the police. i want to thank them for the work that they stay county and all the police agencies have stepped up our doing. at every level. i want to thank them and all the other departments.

[speaking foreign language] >> harris: when they begin to translate into spanish we pull away and for those who speak both languages, they are doing that and so let's talk for a minute. i have pulled the report and i knew we have looked at it. something stands out as they talk about, the mayor will meet with engineers. 2018, job number 18 says, the main issue with the structure is that an entrance drives, waterproofing is laid on a flat structure. this is a major error in the development of the original contract document prepared by. that is page seven section a. it's also important to note the replacement will be extremely

expensive. take time, be destructive, create a major disturbance. please note the installation on a flat structure is a systemic issue for the building structure. keep that in mind. >> we continue to move forward in our search and rescue efforts. it's a very tedious effort. devastated to the collapse and what we are seeing. we are moving a piece by piece. moved over 3 million pounds of concrete at this time. we have all of the task forces here, we have a federal task force on standby, as well as the support team arriving today. again, just when you first arrived, the horrific,

catastrophic type of collapse. they were able to remove 37 individuals. 37 individuals. we continue searching, with all the support, all the task forces here in florida as well as federal and standby. i want to emphasize when we started this, extremely difficult what we saw and encountered. we deployed our search teams based on what we evaluated and what we saw with the highest probability. with our searches, those are the key things we look for. constantly running with canines, searches for life. using different equipment as well as video equipment. that is what we've been doing from the get-go and then we reevaluated. as we mentioned, with our large equipment here, all the different tasks for spirit

24 hours a day we have over 200 task force members made up of rescue, and all the remainders. nonstop around the clock. searching. methodical. very difficult process. as we are moving debris, we are finding more debris that's just concrete over us. it's extremely difficult. as you mentioned, looking for key signs. i want to be clear, we haven't been seeing them. we come across small and we keep moving. we keep moving. we keep trying. from the get-go from what we saw, we continue moving forward. we see where we are at at the end. thank you. >> thank you chief, some comments in spanish.

>> harris: once again we will pull back as they translate into spanish. that was astounding to hear what these task force members on site have accomplished, 3 million pounds. we know how tedious and how specific they have to be. we pray that there is life beneath some of that rubble. you can't cause more cause more of an avalanche on top. >> emily: it seems like the elements that they're battling is such a delicate balance, to ensure their safety while recovering a life. it's been interesting to see, if i can pick back up the point i was making, these formal investigations, their fact-finding at this point and congresswoman deborah scholz mentioned that depending on these results, that may lead to

federal laws being changed. it begs the question, were to be already there? is it building the laws, were at the place where we should depend on those codes for safety. it's surprising. >> harris: you know as a attorney, we are often privy to information that the public doesn't have yet. you know from that process that daylight is the greatest disinfectant. what we're seeing now is a whole light of day light on a situation where we don't know how often we are looking at these buildings. now they're doing a 40 year review. we know from the pictures that the "miami herald" was able to get there, we know from those that there was falling of concrete underneath the area that was compromised.

that means it started to flake away and it was a week and they were looking at that. it's a beach structure, but they were looking at things that were from the inside. let's look at the fire department. >> we have a small update. our new plan has been communicated with public safety partners and posted on social media. this is going to be one street, from harding, 281 street, 96 street. we do have checkpoints and at harding. i will reemphasize again, 33154 zip code. and also, business owners, customers will be allowed

access. please bear with us. we understand the challenges, we will get those results as soon as we can eventually we are still looking at the ultimate goal, it will be to open. >> harris: again, they are translating and they been doing this for all of these news conferences. >> you mentioned that report, it warns that there would be a multiplicity, an increase in damage over the years. this was going to -- the damage would increase and then you go to the 2020 letters and it's very clear, they can visibly see damage to the concrete. you brought on a resident who was asked to put the $15 million there. >> harris: i want to show that to our audience, they say they

had already assessed. he used the term "upgrade." which sounds more urgent. the tenants were going to pay for it. we have time to show that? >> honestly, i was aware we needed some work done. $15 million, mine was a hundred $35,000. that $800 a month for 15 years like a second mortgage. they wanted to upgrade the building. no one that i know of thought anything like this. we saw cracks, we saw a crack here and there. we saw the garage ceiling peeling a little bit. >> harris: the point we made to each other was we are not the experts on this, the letter they

received, as recently as april. let's go back to the american red cross. >> the local red cross wherever they are. making sure we can assess and ensure they have what they need for the space of recovery. as i mentioned earlier in the week, i want to reiterate, we know how this affects the emotions of folks who are here locally. and so as a result we are working with our local partners to offer additional and psychological training. we hope the next 3-4 days to have locations of where we will be providing those forces to the community.

a great opportunity for folks to assess, and learn how to recognize the signs of trauma or impact in their family as well as how to speak to their children about things like this. i would encourage your people to be on the lookout for things like this. >> thank you. we will go into questions and answers now and we appreciate you. that way that person can come forward and immediately following the question and answer, we will go to the translation. >> can you expand more? >> the grand jury has not yet been in panel, so speaking to

the attorney this morning about it, we were talking about whenever it is moving forward that we will be fully on board. she will be asking the grand jury. >> i'm sorry? >> like all of us. >> harris: let's come back out as they translate. that first question was about a grand jury, why? >> the level of negligence that we are seeing is catastrophic. remember in the fire in oakland, 36 lives were lost there. it was sort of groundbreaking, it was found to be so strong.

and so as they said they are, the grand jury is not yet there, and he details a completely meticulous fashion the association as far back as 2014. this wasn't their first rodeo. not only a duty to repair and maintain the building, that they failed on, but they should have knew it was deteriorating. do your point about the obvious corrosion and deterioration. when you get that perfect storm and it rises to that level of being so egregious that it actually can be permanent. >> harris: we learn from mr. rosenthal that this had gone so far along that they wanted them to pay for it. 50 million for what he called upgrades, but the reports as these were systemic structural

problems. >> kayleigh: something was awry, you have the report, the upgrade that doesn't seem urgent, and then residents have to pay for it. it's astonishing. >> harris: back to the news conference. >> we search through there as well. we are looking for this. individuals. obviously we will move them as well. we didn't come across any animals as we went through any type of it. we know that's part of the search. other than that, with regards to that. there are many more to get to. >> you can't access now. >> the fact that we went through with our primary and secondary. >> thank you. >> another aspect. when we went through there, the building itself, in our line of

work, fire rescue professionals, the first year, i could be prouder. when i look to see what we did and i got here about 45 minutes, when i see what we put ourselves in, wow. you know, the rescue efforts, what we went through on those initial first hours, at 1:30 a.m. when this call came in and shifts nonstop throughout. we have not stopped since. the county, all the local resources, all are florida resources with our task force, with our teams on standby. we have seen the magnitude of this. in that building collapsed, we see a footprint of where that building stood.

all within that same thing. i'm just trying to emphasize the magnitude, what we are seeing and we still keep pushing forward. yes, we definitely searched and went through it. there is definitely structural issues. i went off topic there. with our teams, structural engineers, now the support team, they assist with the engineer component, and right now we will not go back. we have a sectioned that we won't search. okay? there is definitely concern on all aspects. >> thank you chief. governor?

>> the question is about meeting with the chief of police for the village. a 93-year-old mother, was in the towers. it was on the one hand heartbreaking because this is somebody that he had just dropped off back to their home just two days before the collapse, but it was also inspiring because i could see the difference that she made in his life, and his wife's life, and her grandkids life. i think that the lives that she led and for all these years, and obviously no one has given up hope, but you see that those types of stories replicated throughout with these families. none of these tragedies are ever easy. it's very difficult to see

somebody who's a sleep in their bed and then you get news that they're building just collapsed. and then you're waiting to see, what is the resolution? can they be identified and many of these families are waiting. they're working their tails off. as the fire chief said, it's a difficult scene and they're leaving no stone unturned. they will continue to do that. it's been a very difficult time and it's been a unique given the scale of the tragedy. man, i was inspired listening to them. you can tell what he's been able to do, very successful family. it all traces back to that matriarch and god bless her and the family. >> they mention there was debris

falling. is that new, does that indicate there might be something there? >> we are constantly monitoring it. we haven't seen any shift at all. special technology, making sure there is not any shift. regards to that, i wasn't briefed. there is that 45-foot area which is next to the building. because of the overhang on the hazard. >> harris: and now as they translate we want to quickly because this process tends to be compressed and go quicker when they're asking questions and answering. kayleigh, you were expressing thoughts about not only that

report, the people polled inside that building. >> it was needed because it was in an update. they talked about the increase of the damage. they said, we see it visibly and it needs to be fixed, taking on a second mortgage. this comes at the same time we get that report for the international university. it was thinking 2 millimeters per year. there is a lot of conflict and different factors here. we have to know how they interacted and who was responsible. [speaking spanish] >> we have been told 2,000 buildings are overdue, have you

heard that? >> i do not have that number. >> can you give us an update on the audit? >> we reported at this morning. it was in the order of 40 something that were due. they've all been under review. we produced a list of those that we find, that need to have issues addressed. mostly their electrical issues, not structural and as heard earlier, we have directed a unit with four balconies to evacuate. >> last two questions. >> can you talk about whether or not there is accurate numbers and how many confirmed victims?

>> i will answer first. obviously we have a fluid list of those who are still unaccounted for and they definitely include national. we can't say it's the final list. we been in touch with the consulate for the various countries represented and we are working with the state department. [speaking spanish] >> thank you, last question before we go over.

>> there are a lot of families. >> who are you here for? >> for me. >> how are they there? >> fema is supporting all of the families. there may be something down the line, but for us because of the outpouring of support, $1.6 million donated. we are making sure everyone who needs assistance will get it. >> thank you. we will go into the translation. >> harris: they are going to translate and creole and why they do that, let's get into what we just heard. they had a visceral reactor. dave rubin and kennedy are with us. i don't know if you can pick

that out, but 2,000 buildings that are overdue for this like higher intensity of structural inspection? 2,000. >> this is just an extraordinary story because the human toll we are seeing the images of right now and god only knows how many people are potentially still alive. we don't know about that, but the way society works, even in a highly functioning western society, it takes a tragedy for people to go back and do the work. it's one thing to be a regulation, to build a building with this code, but it's another thing to make sure people are doing it and then over the years make sure people are following it up. as negligent as the building managers may or may not have been and that's what we are going to find out, it seems like

the public officials, the governor ron desantis, they seem like they're on the ball and they're doing everything possible. we have to give them space. >> harris: that's a really good point. the humanity with this governor, they talked about that 93-year-old matriarch and what she meant to the community. really taught us about what the loss is mr. lee like. really quickly, the catch up they will have to do looking at these buildings. i would imagine it has to be expeditious at this point. as they just pointed out, you can have all the rules on the code, but you have to have enforcers. i liken that to where we are with the defund the police part. law enforcement without police doesn't count.

>> kennedy: yes and i look at this and a feel for the family because they say there is over 200 people who are responding there, but if i'm a family member, i want a thousand people. i want more equipment. i want machines we've never seen. i want a sense of urgency. i know the people who are working there are working around the clock. i don't question their tenacity. if i'm there family member, i want more done. i want to make sure they feel the urgency that there still could be survivors. >> harris: and that's possible! >> kennedy: a woman survived after 17 days. >> harris: this is not hope against hope, this is hope backed up by faith backed up by facts. even the israeli contingent has said this week, they think this

is going slowly. when you get the experts who do this for a living and as a hard dedication i should say more. when you were there, they are doing they possibly can. when they say there is more that can be done, you have to start to question officials. now we are about to see a whole new layering of response. i would have to imagine you have a lot more eyes on it now. they have to do whatever it is that they're not doing now. we don't know what that is, because there are people there, there are people there. it's accurate. maybe they need help and have expressed it. we don't know. >> we know there are 72 local police departments, working around whether, buyers have been breaking out, they're moving

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that. >> one of the advisor said republicans defunded the police by not supporting that, but is that an argument to be made when they never mentioned needing money for police to stop a crime wave? >> he did mention that the rescue plan, the state and local funding supported by a president, democrats who voted for the bill could help ensure that it was kept there. as you know, didn't receive a single republican vote. >> now some history on the defund the police movement which sparked protests which turn violent last year. we want to remind you who was switching the message. i will remind you dave rubin, the person was vice president kamala harris who was there and los angeles, i will also remind you democrats with $15 million,

democrats in oakland just last week had 18 million. the same thing for portland. >> yeah, one of the quotes i often read on my show every day at this point thanks to them, they wrote that, he said they know they're lying, they know that we know that they're lying, and they continue to live. as a former white house press secretary, you know exactly when you have certain information and you have to process it and get it to the media, but i never once, i never once saw you brazenly live the way that she is and she knows no network or major news outlet in "the washington post" is going to call them out on it. let's not forget, like 60 days

into the administration they said they are not going to be doing their fact checks. meanwhile if president trump or any republican conservative says anything then they run with this for days. she knows she can live because it's only fox news and some guys like me online that will talk about this. of course it was the democrats, and you can see plenty of tweets from ilhan omar and others in the progressive caucus, whatever you want to call them, where they were calling for defunding the police. it's an absolute live. >> kayleigh: it's a brazen life and one they tested on the sunday show, they double down on it. this comes as the white house is shifting their strategy. jen psaki tried to blame president trump for these recent crimes in the country.

>> tomi: they're not asking, why is crime on the rise and that's a critical issue that should be asked outside of the affiliation. to keep people safe and their well-being is a lot more important than who is going to win the house and senate and the midterms. you want to make sure, let's say there was funding that went to cities and states, who's to say they were going to use it to refund the police department that they voted to divert money away from. seattle and portland, minneapolis, the cities you have talked about. if they're the ones defunding the police, does that mean they are now republicans? they're the ones asking for extra police presence. and he gets it! mayor of new york city talked about taking guns away from nypd

officers, she had 24-hour police protection. >> kennedy: they don't want to defund the police, there was a democrat that's exploded, three hour-long conference call, they were chewing out other members. they know they have this problem. it defies credibility to suggest they don't. >> harris: the political crime. while pointing fingers at water guns at each other. i want to point out what she said, "our plan allowed state and local governments to replenish their police department. this boat she said it at the podium. this code help help them being funded. that plan did not say, they have to use the money for that and we know it's democratic led cities, and they are defending north of 20 now, why would anyone believe

the words she saying? that those cities would actually put money back for police. they will continue what they're doing. and the plan would allow, but that's not the same as, you have to do this to get the money. >> kennedy: great point. >> the oakland police chief called it a crisis in front of cameras as he was dealing with a murder of a young man and a woman yelled out "do something!" and he said, "i can't, i have no resources." we are seeing a pattern, the erosion of funds to police officers, the erosion of ranks and safety. that's on democrats and not republicans. moving forward, republicans are slamming the olympian. she is doubling down on her protest and responded on

instagram writing "i said what i said and i meant what i said. stop playing with me, period." in 2019 they put her on probation for raining her fist in peru. here's what she had to say about that. >> in that moment when the national anthem was playing. i knew that national anthem did not speak for people like me in america. the freedom liberty and justice, it's not for black people. something came over me. i raise my fist. i felt like i was not at peace with myself if i had not said something or did something in that moment. >> emily: kennedy, she said specifically the reason she doesn't protest outside, is that "no one would see her. as a national athlete of her stature, that's what her platform would be on or off the podium. >> kennedy: she also was

complaining that she lost money from sponsors after being admonished after the 2019 games, so she wants to participate in capitalism. she's not being incredibly specific about the changes she would like to see. it's much more about one very than it is about specific activism. of course there is a place where voices like hers, but also its patriotism, competing for your country, she has to ask yourself, why is she doing that? it has to be hers. such a huge cause for her. >> emily: we know the committee will not punish her, but the international committee is dedicated to enrolling those rules. they said they will take action, but if she gets to the podium, it could mean stripping a metal if she decides. >> i'm a free-speech guy and i

defend anyone's desire to express themselves as they see fit. that means at the same time, the olympic committee, people who buy merchandise, everyone can make a decision. she is welcome to do this and if the powers that be i don't want to center there, that is fine if people don't want to buy jerseys. it's in line which is why we have seen ratings drop. or why colin kaepernick was kneeling, people called it racism because he wasn't put on another team. it was about business because people don't want the headache. they want people to come to a football game. the way we politicize everything, the way the athletes politicize everything is destroying the very sport that they report to love and the reason people watch sports in the first place. >> harris: no the names,

brooke andersen. jericho americans that were first and second. we are not talking about them because we are so focused on her. you hit the nail on the head, this is about herself, all about her. it's not about her, it's up about america represented across the world. those women don't even get mentioned. >> emily: if those answers don't get mentioned

>> john: president biden is selling the $1.2 trillion bipartisan infrastructure plan right now in la crosse, wisconsin, has critics accused democrats of politicizing a tragedy to push the agenda if your democratic lawmakers are using the collapse of a privately owned florida residential building as a reason to pass the infrastructure proposal as concerns of inflation, worker shortages, and the national debt threaten the plans. to speak out our political panel joins us on this, just ahead. we will also hear from will