the congresswoman was referring to another washington building that collapsed today on the 900 block of kennedy street, avenue, a full collapse of the building that was apparently under construction. one person trapped, several others are injured. on a day and at a time that these things are getting a lot more scrutiny than they used to. here comes "the five." ♪ ♪ >> dana: hello, everyone, i'm dana perino along with dagen mcdowell, harold ford jr., jesse watters and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." ♪ ♪ well, apparently working for kamala harris is no walk in the park, 22 current or former aides telling the politico that the vp oversees an abusive workplace when morale is low and concerns are ignored. "people are thrown under the bus from the very top, there are

short fuses and it's an abusive environment" said another person with direct knowledge of how the office is run. it's not a healthy environment and people often feel mistreated, is not a place where people feel supported but a place where people feel treated like -- much criticism is aimed at the vp's chief of staff, many sources are blaming kamala harris herself saying the toxicity starts with harris herself. >> i'm not joking when i say this, if you ever work with me and i hear you treat another colleague with disrespect or talk down to someone i promise you i will fire you on the spot. on the spot. now is', anne's, or. >> dana: harris' chief spokesperson defended the vpn said people who made the claims are how cowards. during her presidential

campaign, this letter was sent in as part of a resignation in which the staffer said "this is my third presidential campaign and i have never seen an organization treated staff so poorly it is not acceptable to me, we encourage people to move from washington, d.c., to baltimore only to lay them off with no notice and without thoughtful consideration of personal consequences for there was a "new york times" story that had 50 staffers quoted saying similar things. to be too toxic femininity in my opinion, dana. this isn't like a low-level staffer that worked for a trump saying something that got overheard by politico and sensationalized, this is 22 people talking to politico not a right wing publication, it's ten times worse than it actually is, it sounds like a jailbreak or a cry for help, people are looking to get out of there and it doesn't surprise me because the campaign imploded in the vp's office is imploding. she is a very insecure person,

she's riddled with insecurities, very defensive and you see that when she is cackling like a wacko. but this is early for the disintegration of the vp's office, we are not even six months in, dana, and that he does not even on yet, wait until the summer kicks in and you see the high gas prices, crime and immigration ramp up pressure on her and the biden white house recognizes the problem. they said that in the article and they are concerned about it and that's why i think you see the attempts to raise the profile of dr. jill. she is now a senior advisor going to tokyo for the olympic games. kamala is sidelined for that so look for a little bit of backbiting between those two women, that should be fun to follow. joe biden has to be thinking "thank god it's not me," he's having a hard time basically completing basic tasks and as long as the pressure is on kamala, i expect to see her getting set up for more failures

as the year goes on. >> dana: what about the suggestion that she is being set up to fail by given really tough issues to have to deal with? >> dagen: she failed in her own presidential campaign but this is something she's used to and good at and that is failing the tasks assigned to her. they did also put her not just in charge of the border in the immigration problem but in charge of efforts to protect voting rights. so in terms of disintegration, her potential for being the next president of the united states is disappearing. but i personally love simone sanders' comment, the line from her, "we are not making rainbows and bunnies all day." she is in essence saying "we don't care about your delicate feelings, or hostile workplace is okay because we are doing hard work."

in essence she is saying suck it up and back up, buttercup. we are doing god's work here. if you don't like it go work -- i kind of like that attitude. >> jesse: i like that attitude, too. maybe they hired a bunch of snowflakes in the vp's office. b5 her chief of staff worked at philip morris and is very active, saying we are working with a usa to kill the medicaid liability bill over smoking, that's how tough she was. >> dana: some people on her staff saying she is basically being held to a higher standard than anybody else and this is not fair. >> harold: she probably needs

to hire different staffers. you want smart people, tough people, people who can handle the back and forth, people who don't get afraid with a bad headline and she probably needs to hire some new people. look, some people suggest that she gets heart assignments, that's with the vice president gets. i have not heard the vice president complain about that and we can be critical of other things about her but i think it's unfair to be critical when these people work at the pleasure of the president, there's only one person at this table who had that honor and when the president doesn't want you to work or vice president doesn't want you to work for them anymore you have to move on. this is not about her performance as vice president but i tend to agree with -- simone sanders, i don't know very well, i tend to lean more towards what she saying, if the allegations i want to make up of the workplace should make the allegations. to say that it's hard and it's tough and gosh, how my going to do this? you need new people. we've got real challenge is to down here. >> dana: they didn't go to the hr department, they went to the

media. >> greg: use the phrase "petition rhetoric," rhetoric that deliberately intensifies behavior so it feels important and when you actually look at it there's nothing there. this is what you call the rhetoric of bullying which is, the workplace is abusive, it's not healthy, mistreatment and toxicity. when you actually drill down into that it's like, well, he didn't say hello to me in the elevator. stuff like that, that kind of rhetoric sets me off and makes me think it's a bunch of whiny brats. you know, her office doesn't suffer from a moral intense atmosphere, it suffers from a bunch of really fragile babies. also we have to be fair because this was, this type of story was the main entree on cnn when trump was president, right? all of this anonymous blather

every day. someone said, someone's having a tantrum, this is the low-hanging fruit for petty people. she might actually be a bad boss, she might even be a bad vice president but once you are a boss this is what happens and i am defending all bosses here. somebody has to speak out for people who constantly get backbiting weirdos upset because oh, my god, shut up. you, i'm talking to you! >> dana: i'm sure they love the invitation. next, one liberal city's cracking down on legal gun owners. we will be right back. ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ >> jesse: as the country faces a major crime wave, one liberal city solution is to go after and punished law-abiding gun owners, san jose, california, approving

a plan that would legally find gun owners. it forces people to buy liability insurance coverage and if residents don't comply they will confiscate your gun. greg, you look into this very totally illegal, right? >> greg: absolutely. they can just come and take mine, that will be fun for everybody. the idea of calling it gun insurance is really clever because you are arguing to people, well, there's car insurance, why can't there be gun insurance? car insurance doesn't require you to cover other people's accidents, right? it's absurd on its face. law-abiding gun owners by their definition, getting a gun makes them... they are not targets or criminals. but then they become targets for liberals. but it's a fair trade-off.

every day they come up with this stupid idea and we have to talk about it but it's not going to happen. all the crime is caused by bad people with stolen guns in cities where politicians put these thugs back on the street before the next victim is done with their shift in chinatown. we know how to solve that, these tax forces take guns off the street, you've got to get that out there, bring back stop and frisk, problem solved. >> jesse: so many things wrong with this, just one of them the part about how you go about confiscating someone's guns. the beat of a of thought. >> harold: the other reality as everyone is entitled to own a gun in the second amendment, you're not entitled to own a car. but i give them credit for this, when we try to reset and imagine and reimagine ways to deal with a challenge or a problem, that's what they're doing. this is not the way to do it.

the ghost gun issue is a huge, huge part because those stolen guns, someone had to have their guns stolen. if you buy 100 guns and all of a sudden all them are stolen, how these guns, again, you can't get a fresh apple, a good book, a dental visit and a lot of the neighborhoods, where these kids are finding guns, we have to keep trying and i give them credit for trying but this is not going to withstand a legal challenge. >> jesse: i've been to the neighborhood you are talking about, you can get apples there. you can definitely get apples. what about you, dagen? this does not ring true to you, i'm sure. it is >> dagen: inside the apple's ammo. this is left-wing performance art, liberal theater coming from literally the richest city in america so their message is only wealthy people and rich people are allowed to own guns, people who can afford the insurance and

the fees on the gun. this is actually jim crow, you put the burden on lower income individuals, they are not allowed to defend themselves. lower income communities, neighborhoods, high crime areas, communities of color, that's what's so disgusting. the reason it's theater is because these jackasses on the city council clearly have bigger political ambitions of their going to have all these guns rights groups pay for the legal fees when they have their pantsuit off of them they are going to use it for public relations but it's not anywhere. >> jesse: great point, again. i've made none of them but i will summarize all of them. >> greg: you're not supposed to, you're leading the segment. >> jesse: thank god. america is already struggling with gas prices, all the other insurance have to pay for, talking about sending your kids

to college, that's not cheap and now you have to take out another policy on guns? no. >> dana: democrats say they want to talk about root causes, if you're trying to go around the second amendment is not going to work. right nearby in oakland, california, the city council wants to take away $18 million of the police budget and i'm not sure how that will go over in northern california but the police chief said it's going to be very difficult for them to be able to do any of their jobs, to respond to calls. >> jesse: greg, if someone came to your house and asked you if you had an insurance policy on your firearm and you said no and they said "were going to have to confiscate that weapon," what would you do? >> greg: i have to go back to one of those great films, ""silence of the lambs"," i would always ask the person to come inside. i would be incredibly gracious and they would wake up days later wondering where they are, change in my basement.

>> jesse: that's the fallacy of all of these gun confiscation arguments, who is going to be in charge of knocking on doors and confiscating guns? not a single government official is going to raise their hand and say "i want to be in that department." not even the atm a do that. >> dagen: this whole thing is hot garbage but it places the solution -- >> dana: it's absurd political gamesmanship. >> jesse: that's rated r, dana, are you allowed to watch that? >> dana: i don't even know what they're talking about. >> greg: i like the idea of applying insurance to areas where there is none. that's kind of interesting, could you have children insurance, if your kids do something really bad -- >> jesse: i could buy policy on the twins. >> greg: you don't want to be responsible for their stupidity. >> dagen: you can get that if they are under the age of 18. i think that would be the

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♪ ♪ >> dagen: the air force making some big changes to its physical fitness test, the standard one used to include push-ups, set

ups, and running a mile and a half but soon candidates will have option, instead of running, they can walk. push-ups can be replaced with pulling themselves up in that position in doing alternate arm lifts up. they can do planks instead of set ups. dana? the military commanders in china are laughing at us. >> dana: i can imagine that the recruitment office, their higher-ups, they can't find anybody so we got to figure out something to do. do we really need to be able to run a mile and a half? maybe not for some, however, joey jones sent me an out this morning and he said that it's not about looking good, it's about being physically fit to the point that you will need to be able to either run if you need to or he said he would not have survived if he had not been physically fit when he sacrificed most of he met both of his legs. and he said for him that was a matter of his survival and

that's why the physical fitness test is important, it's not just about being able to fit into your genes. >> dagen: jesse are you going to do the plank? >> jesse: i am surprisingly strong at planking, i had to do it when i hurt my back so i can playing for about 2 minutes a very good form. i heard your talking points already. i do see the irony in an overpaid middle-age man who talks for a living on his keister criticizing the armed forces for their strength and conditioning department so i want to say thank you for them men and women first for protecting us. with that said -- >> greg: now it gets dark. >> jesse: it's the air force, they need to fly fast, not run fast and i agree with dana, they've got to get recruits, maybe they had to lower some standards and that's fine but it strikes me as a little weak that this is happening and i feel like i should not say much else

they because i don't want to say anything that might get me into any trouble. >> greg: especially before the holiday weekend. rearrange. >> dagen: i'm not saying boo about the air force, i have never been more sick in my entire life i was sick for like 12 hours, i was laying on the tarmac taking a nap in the sun. what say you? >> harold: your first question to dana said the generals in china and russia and north korea has to be smiling that we would even be considering something like this. we are the united states of america, we have the greatest fighting force in the world, and i don't know how this reconciles with that. i get recruiting people but this reminds me a little bit of our first story, you've got to toughen up a bit here, we are

the u.s. and if we don't have these standards and we are going to go to the krispy kreme policy then we are going to suffer the consequences so i hope they revisit this. >> greg: here's the deal, if they got on the phone with the other countries and they all agreed to lower their standards, look, our country is getting really fat, although scarves and video games. and putin's going "same here," you have to wonder, how important in the future is physical stamina? if you are in a tactical unit, you've got to be fit like me. but if you are a pilot you can probably be like jesse. just because you're tall and you can hide it. are we going to have the same kind of wars that we are used to seeing when we were growing up, now that you have drones and you

have specialized groups like seals who would go in and we would do, these what do you call, pinprick attacks. i cannot -- this is the thing, i imagine that we passed that at this point? where we are going to be using robotic devices. >> jesse: we are going to need infantry on the canadian border. >> dana: they should have everyone do 30 minutes of arms and see how they do. >> harold: look of the things they want to change. a mile and a half run. >> jesse: shuttle run. >> dagen: shuttle runs are hard, though, don't you remember the shuttle runs with the erasers in schools? am i that old? >> jesse: what were they doing with the erasers. >> dagen: do you want me to just show you? >> jesse: what's with the push

up, it's not all the way down? you have to just lift your arms? >> dagen: those are harder. >> harold: we watched chuck grassley due 20 plus push-ups and you're telling me the air force can't do this? >> greg: the american airlines is having a hard time because that's where they get their pilots. >> dagen: they don't want to work for american. >> greg: how unamerican. >> dagen: all of his seal team members were at the wedding and all of them were super skinny and you had no idea because they had to be able to do a dead man carry out of battle. you have to be able to pick up another person and carry them. >> greg: had been carrying the

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♪ ♪ >> harold: britney spears battle for freedom hitting a major roadblock, a jazz has denied the singers request to end her father's control over her estate. despite her dramatic testimony last week where she said she wasn't allowed to get married or have a baby and was forced to take medication, britney's attorney was expected to file a petition to end the conservatorship but for some reason her lawyer has yet to do

that. so we've got some opinions around this, let me go with jesse first and then i will bring it back to you, day again. i can feel your words coming out already. >> jesse: the reason the court appointed lawyer has not filed a petition to end it is because they are a court appointed lawyer making more money representing britney than they ever thought they would make. and it's in the financial interest of this court appointed lawyer to drag this out as long as possible. from my understanding of this case, the reason the judge denied it is because the court appointed lawyer botched the paperwork and relate with everything and they still haven't filed the right paperwork so that's that. if britney were broke this would not be happening. you have homeless people in l.a. and camps, you can't get a conservatorship or institutionalize them.

you institutionalize her because she is a money machine, this is not designed for people at that age, it is designed for people of the way end of their lives that can't manage their affairs, can't manage themselves, bathing, teeth brushing, those kinds of things. she's clearly not incapacitated, she's performing at a very high level, feeding, paying dozens of people and this goes on and on and i do feel bad for her, #3britney. >> harold: dagen is ready. >> greg: bill cosby is free but britney spears isn't. we will be right back. you know words you never want to hear before another word? "court-appointed." court appointed lawyer, court-appointed sandwich, court-appointed underwear, it's never good. i am struggling right now to care deeply about her because i also do feel she's in better

shape than most people. people have asked me, do i regret not having kids? as you know, i hate children. but in this case -- >> jesse: you do love jesse jr. >> greg: from afar. i would like to have a child if you became a pop star so i could sponge off it. i want a child who could buy me a house or two. where is her mom? where is her mom? do we hear about her mom? isn't that weird? >> jesse: i don't know where the mom's. i will talk to my britney sources. >> dana: one thing that bothered me the whole time is that the dad's lawyer keep saying if any at any time she wants to end this she can file a petition and she's never actually filed the petition. why not just do that? then there's another piece if you pull the string that says the court-appointed lawyer didn't tell her she could file that and if that's true

obviously that's wrong so this was denied, in this particular hearing because the petition to end it has not been filed. there was another example on july 14th so i think this is wrapping up, this is coming to an end and i think you will get your wish, #freebritney >> harold: you have some interesting points about her life and how it's been manage, what's your reaction to what's been said? >> dagen: no one knows the mental health issues behind this, no one knows what the judge has seen over the years, judges, no one knows what the conservators have seen. so there are a lot of people talking and that was my issue when we talk about it last week was "the new york times" who blew this open with this documentary, they interviewed britney fans on instagram but

they didn't talk to any psychiatrists. i understand psychiatrists don't want to be on the record about what's going on but there is something very profound that's been happening with this young woman come out with her mental health and with other issues potentially, dual diagnosis. mental illness and drug and alcohol addiction. i throw that out there number one. her trust, the coconservator of the finances has filed to drop out of the conservatorship, doesn't want to be associated with this anymore. her personal conservator has said that there are no marriage or baby restrictions, responding to the father who is now speaking out and that is true, in a conservatorship there are no restrictions on you getting married or having children so again that raises the issue of, was britney telling the full truth when she spoke in front of the court? and i will end with this, i think the conservatorship does come to an end and rather rapidly and i know this for one reason because now the cousin

oliver showing up on the brady bunch, this show is over. >> jesse: would you grant me one thing? would you grant me that she is a naive country girl who is maybe not sophisticated and perhaps more sophisticated lawyers on both sides are praying on her carcass for cash? would you grant me that is a possibility? >> dagen: i think this conservatorship has gone on an incredibly long time and there are many troubling aspects to it. the biggest one is that britney's money is actually going to pay not just her lawyer but her father's attorney and we are talking about over the years probably millions of dollars that she's paid for her own dad's attorney. >> jesse: you grant me that you would trap this woman in some sort of psychological

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♪ ♪ >> greg: welcome back, it's time for "the fastest," younger generations saying their online presence is more important than real life interaction. over 60% think how you present yourself online is more crucial than how you appear in person. it's an interesting question because it doesn't have to be either/ora but i kind of understand it, you're more likely to ruin your life online then you are in real life. >> dana: this is partly maybe one of the reasons you see a lot of young people saying that they like working from home during covid and they don't want to come back to the office, they like zoom life, we can say it will be better for you to be in the office, you'll be more likely to be thought of, more

opportunities. i don't necessarily think that, they'd rather have a text exchange that goes on for three days to organize one pick up at the airport than to just pick up the phone and there's a reason their lives are more memorable because you remember pictures and you see pictures over and over again. i had like ten in my head, they have 10,000 by the time they are ten. >> greg: isn't this part of a evolution, our physical manifestation is not going to be as important anymore. do you believe in evolution? >> jesse: take it away, harold. >> harold: thank you for that. i agree with dana, employers are finding it hard, all these stories have a rhyme and reason. if we don't want to interact

with people, i think it's going to change society, more for the worse. i get that the data from this, that's where kids and younger people believe that that communication, to dana's point. it amazes me, it's hard to get people on the phone, we can solve this thing, back-and-forth, back-and-forth, back-and-forth, it concerns me, from the air force, to people complaining about work is too hard, that's what work is, they wouldn't pay you if it was easy. >> greg: there's another part of this that just occurred to me that in the old days, the old days, you would have two go out on a limb to ask a girl out. it would destroy you, develops character to be able to come up to somebody whether it's in an elevator or wherever, and get a

date, that is gone now. all you have to do, go on to tinder or wherever. exactly. the elevator is stuck. you see my point, that's a really important skill that, how do you flirt anymore? i guess you can part by texting. >> dagen: online you can make yourself with filters, and one of those halo lights, look like harry styles when in broad daylight you look like peter laurie. when i going that way and when i going that way so -- i know, that's why i said peter lori, greg gutfeld. that's why people like online life, they can be someone they are not, like, attractive.

>> greg: jesse, what are your thoughts on this? >> jesse: i have something to say kind of not really involved with this. i am getting sick and tired of people coming up to me on the street and saying "wow, you are much better looking in person." what am i supposed to say? >> dana: how many times has that happened? >> jesse: all the time. what am i supposed to say? think space we want people think i am taller than i am. >> greg: "you really are sure." up next, looking to cut back on meat? wide? a writer for bon apetit coming up with something called "bread steak" if you do it right it's downright meaty. this is idiotic because if you want to lose weight you've got to eat less bread and more me to be because it's a high-protein,

low-carb diet, this is going to contribute to obesity. you want people to die. >> dagen: can i breathe now? i've been sitting here sucking in my gut for eating too much bread for the last 15 minutes. it soaks up the booze, though, i will tell you that. >> greg: harold, i've got to know you over the last couple of months and i'm curious about your nutritional habits because you seem very slim and i envy people who are slim because i am constantly battling my weight being a rather stocky individual. >> harold: i intermittent fast. >> jesse: i know you did something! >> harold: a couple times a week, i.e. everything. >> greg: what time does the fasting start? >> harold: it helps when you have a 7-year-old, 6-year-old who eat at 5:30. i finished dinner at six and don't eat until the next day.

>> greg: i don't call that fasting. >> jesse: i think you have body dysmorphia. you are actually slimmer than you believe. >> greg: that's the first time i got a comp on that from jesse watters. would you eat breaded meat? >> jesse: as an appetizer. >> dana: grilled cheese. he think about that fancy restaurant that says are not going to serve meat anymore, this is a kind of thing they will put in to make you think you should pay $54 for that. all you need to do is, you can do this at home, get a piece of bread, a slice of velveeta, throw it in there with some lettuce on top. b5 i ate there once, too, and they were nasty. and they were mean. you're better off. >> dana: that's what it cost $7. >> greg: i'm glad we solved this problem. "one more thing" is up next.

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♪ ♪ >> time now for one more thing. greg. >> all right right, my shows, we are kicking them back up post-covid. i'm going to be in nashville, memphis, birmingham -- that's alabama, not england, dana -- newark, new jersey, my favorite city i'm a isn't that exciting? let's do this quickly please. greg's frustration corner. when you're a chunky guy like me, it's hard to slip into your jeans, but this guy is having a problem too. he just can't get to the doggy door. >> there's two of them. >> there's two of them. one gets through it but then he leaves it behind. never leave your body behind. >> would never make it in the air force. >> got to get on a treadmill.

and then he can even figure out -- you know what -- >> he should join the air force. just kidding! we love you! >> is like "help me!" >> i've got a podcast up, at the everything will be okay podcast. i interviewed the founder and ceo of it cosmetics and her name is jamie. she's gotten incredible -- $1.2 billion cash. >> get some free stuff, hey, dana? >> i did not, but that's a great idea. maybe next time you come on my podcast i will ask you for some free stuff. there's a new laundry service i discovered and you guys want to check this out. see what you can do, you can just get a little help with your laundry right just here. you need chores done from the sky, he just helps out. so helpful. he can get through the door. that guy. >> very cute. >> jesse. >> a day in the life of jesse watters airs tonight --

why are you laughing -- at 6:15:00 p.m. go get tickets right now, go to watersday.com. it's a special on a day in my life and i asked to go behind the scenes when i do one of my man on the street interviews. here's a little sneak peek. >> i'm just a very >> it will be quick, i've got to get on the train in the moment. >> yeah. let me know when you got it. all right. >> fox news? no. >> [laughs] [laughter] >> happens to me all the time. all the time. we go behind the scenes when i do stuff like that. also watch fox news prime time tonight, i'm hosting. we left senator ted cruz, mike pompeo, pete hegseth and a surprise guest who i won't tell you about because we are still in the process of booking. [laughter] the watch at 7:00. >> degen, what you have? 's >> being a waiter or waitress is a tough job because something like this happens. you're just trying to bring some water to the table and boom, the

bottom of the mason jar busts out. lucky for the diners it wasn't, say, like a watermelon margarita, because that sticky doesn't go away. >> do have anything quick, hurled? >> once-in-a-lifetime airbnb, if we're lucky, mets fans can stay in the cityville suite. first pitch, all to honor bobby many. >> i even learned about him today. a friend. that's it for us. "special report" is up next, hey, bret. >> bret: thanks, dana. good evening, i'm bret baier. breaking tonight, following a pair of big stories, search and rescue efforts have just resumed at this hour at the state of the condo towers that collapsed in south florida. the work was actually halted for several hours today over concerns the remainder of the building was unstable. president biden was in the area today to get everything and to meet with grieving families. we will have a live report there shortly. but we begin with the u.s. supreme court putting an exclamation point on its