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you are not going to regret it. rachel: thank you -- pete: thank you guys so much. have a great fourth. guess what? we will be back tomorrow for the biggest, baddest fourth of july bash you can imagine on "fox & friends." ♪ neil: welcome, everybody, i'm neil cavuto. happy weekend, and happy july 4th weekend at that. an update right now minutes away from surfside, florida, on the latest rescue details going on there. this at a time when the latest count is 22 dead and 126 missing, and we've gotten word of a 10-story condo in north miami beach that was ordered to evacuate after the building submitted a report documenting a number of unsafe conditions. let's go to charles watson in
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surfside with the late arest on what's going on there -- latest on what's going on there. charles. >> reporter: good morning, neil. this is now the ninth day of search and rescue efforts. crews are working around the clock at that collapsed site as they desperately search for the 126 people who are still missing. and miami-dade officials say this rescue mission is really taking a toll on first responders as 22 people are now confirmed dead. that includes the 7-year-old daughter of a firefighter who has been at the collapse site helping in the search for victims. all of this happening as hurricane elsa barrels towards the florida coast with an expected landfall sometime early next week. urban search and rescue teams from indiana, pennsylvania, virginia, ohio and new jersey are on site to provide relief to local teams. elsa is already lashing the caribbean, and there is concern that heavy winds and rain from the category i hurricane could
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compromise what will remains of champlain towers south as miami officials work out plans to demolish the building. >> our top purity rep -- priority remains search and rescue. the building poses a threat to public if health and safety, and bringing it down as quickly as possible is critical to protect our community. >> reporter: on friday officials in the city of north miami beach announced the chose your and evacuation of more than 300 are residents at the crestcrew towers condominium -- crestview taurus condominium building. structural and electrical issues, and officials are now working with the american red cross to find shelter for those residents who need a place to stay. and back here at the collapse site, we are told that six firefighters are now in isolation after testing positive for covid. so the issues keep mounting here. back to you.
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neil: just incredible. charles, thank you very much. charles was outlining the latest concern that hurricane, hurricane elsa, the first named one of the season here, so this is starting a little early and at the worst time the, certainly, for these rescue efforts going on in south florida. let's go to rick reichmuth in the fox weather center with what he's looking at, the potential for this storm. hey, rick. >> reporter: yeah, looking a little bit less organized than it did yesterday. hurricane hunters are in there flying around right now, so maybe we'll see this change down to a tropical storm at the 11:00 hour. either way, it's got a lot of land mass from haiti, dominican republic and cutting over cuba that will certainly weaken it some. but then it gets back over the eastern gulf of mexico here. south florida, southeast florida where surfside is, i don't think we're talking about a direct impact from this storm. however, we're going to see a lot of rain, and some of that will certainly be across parts of southwest -- excuse me,
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southeast florida. and so where we are talking about surfside, any moisture coming in there is certainly problematic. that's a monday-tuesday time frame when we're going to be seeing impacts. we've already had five named storms this short hurricane season, that is earlier than we've ever seen it. this is typical activity around september 10th, and the bulk of our hurricane/tropical storm activity in any season is really kind of mid-august to mid-october. so the fact that we've got five storms so far, we're expecting a really active season. you know, hopefully these storms will stay away from the u.s., but we're watching closely. one other thing today, we have kind of a stalled-out front here that's going to keep things unsettled across parts of the central gulf, and most of the moisture across parts of the northern half of florida, i think we're going to keep that. it won't make its way down to south florida which is good news for that moisture to be coming
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up. neil: reduction reichmuth, thank you very much. now to dr. howard lieberman, miami-dade trauma surgeon. the remarkable thing about the good doctor is immediately after the collapse at the south tower, he went there to help out in any way he could. this is the first day he has taken any time off. they were actually ordering him to do so to. dr. howard lieberman, thank you very much. >> thank you. neil: no, thank you. i'm sure everyone on site feels the same way about your heroic efforts. it has to be very frustrating though. i imagine you're now hearing word of this storm and even more so. how are you feeling right now? >> yeah. so it is, it's been very frustrating, you know? myself and every single person i work with, every single member of the task force that's out there has one goal is to find people, rescue people, treat them can and save them.
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and as you all know so far, that hasn't really happened other than immediately after the crash. i've been there since thursday, last thursday at 1 p.m., and as you mentioned, i'm actually home now. our entire task force was mandated to take 48 hours off, so the task force is home now resting and then we go back sunday and the other half will take another 48 hours off. neil: doctor, we heard so much about originally pinging other sounds including a woman in the rubble asking for help. that was, i believe, on the first day. but nothing since. that's got to be very, very frustrating. >> yes, that's correct. we haven't really heard anything since i guess the initial 24 hours or so. and, yeah, it's frustrating, like i said. we're there as urban search and rescue, this is what we do, what we're trained for and, you know, that's what we want to do. obviously, we haven't been able to do that. we have rescued or recovered a few bodies and hopefully that
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brings some closure to the families and a little bit of peace. the only thing i can say is we're working nonstop. even though i'm home right now, half of the task force is there, and as you mentioned earlier, this task force is all over from this entire country that are still there helping out. that rubble pile is never left unattended unless there's severe weather elements that we have to, you know, abandon it for our safety. but it's being worked on 24 hours a day since, you know, the crash happened. neil: as a doctor, what is the greatest risk to those who might be caught in the rubble? they've had no food or water for the better part of, what, nine days now. >> yeah. so, obviously, that, you know, aside from the initial injuries they may have sustained whether it's a crush injury, fractures, the people underneath there also have other co-morbidities, diabetic, heart disease and can't get their medication, food, water. it's been raining a lot, and there are some stories of people getting rain water as a source of water.
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other people fortunate enough to be collapsed near a can kitchen, so they have some food, things like that, but that's kind of rare. neil: and you would hear that, right? if someone had access to that or was, you know, reaching that, you would hear that, wouldn't you? >> i guess it all depends on how far down, what floor they're on. we have 12 stories of a building condensed to about 4 stories. to social security difficult. we do have -- so it's difficult. we have cameras, infrared, we're using drone technology, everything that you could possibly think of is available to us, and we have been using it. neil: you know, doctor, there have been all these reports on what keeps the rescue operations going where a little girl in haiti survived three weeks after the earthquake, other stories like that. is that really possible though?
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>> yeah. i mean, it's not necessarily something that's common, but like you said, we hear these stories, and this is what we all, you know, keep in our mind. we don't really think about all the negative things. we strive on that one rescue that we know that someone got rescued, you know, two weeks ago or after being buried for two weeks. that's what we focus on. i work at a hospital here in miami, jackson memorial hospital, and the slogan is miracles made daily. and that's sort of my mindset. neil: you know, they, you know, told you to rest, doctor. don't want to do too much, too fast and nonstop, but something tells me you're itching to get back there the, and i'm just wondering what your own plans are. >> yeah, you're 100% right. i think every single one of us, you know, none of us want to take a break. we're forced to take a break, and as a doctor, i think that's the right thing for our mental health if, our physical health. this is south florida, it's more
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time. it's hot, it's humid. the work the guys are doing -- and i got to experience that on the rubble pile with them with jackhammers, power tools and just digging by hand, it's exhausting. our shift is midnight the noon. it's ridiculously intense but, yeah, we all want to get back, we all want to go and help. i'm going back tomorrow about 8:00 in the morning, and in terms of my long-term plans, whatever my task force leaders tell me, however long they need me there, i'll make arrangements and i'll be there. i wouldn't want to be anywhere else, honestly. neil: you are remarkable. doctor, i know you don't like to brag, but it stands out in this day and age. thank you so much. dr. howard lieberman, miami-dade trauma surgeon. very active at this collapse scene hours after it collapsed. we'll keep you posted on that. also some other developments, you might have herald charles watson touch on do, that the
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remaining structure there, the part of the structure that dud not collapse -- that did not collapse, they plan to demolish that. now, we don't know the timing of that or when they're going to do that. obviously, it could affect the efforts going on at the site itself. separately, we've gotten word out of north miami beach has ordered a 10 is-story condominium evacuated. this is about 7 miles to the north, i believe, because there were a number of engineering and other issues that were found to be out of ordinance and declared unsafe. all residents were evacuated yesterday. keep you posted on this and much more. tell me something i don't know. (burke) with your farmers policy perk, guaranteed replacement cost, your home can be rebuilt, regardless of your limits. (customer) that's really something. (burke) get a whole lot of something with farmers policy perks. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪ hi, verizon launched the first 5g network, and now we want to be the first to give everyone the joy of 5g by giving every customer a new 5g phone, on us, aha!
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they cannot account for just how many might have been affected by this storm. 80 homes in this area, the own west of tokyo -- town west of tock owe, according to a disaster management agency experts in tokyo. officials said more than 100 people are still officially unaccounted for, they're just trying to track down where they were at the time. they lived in the area and if they were among those who leed in these units that essentially collapsed into one another in a serious mudslide in the japan. we'll keep you posted on that. also keeping you focused on the things that are developing in this country not only a lot of people hitting the airports and the highways, but a good deal of migrants hitting the border. and that pace is continuing at such a frantic and alarming level that a number of sheriffs in the region have gone ahead and essentially sued the administration over its immigration policy saying that they have made their job next to
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impossible to do. ron vitiello, not surprisingly, retired i.c.e. acting director and border patrol chief with us now. they're saying the administration has tied their hands in dealing with these migrants. they can't arrest and deport them. it's not that easy now. could you explain what that change is? >> well, i love their efforts. whats' happened -- besides what's going on at the border which is a difficult situation for the men and women of cbp who are dealing with that right now, but also they reprioritized i.c.e.'s activity in the interior. so these sheriffs are facing a situation where if people make it into their county and they're not a convicted aggravated felon, they're not a suspect of terrorism or they haven't just crossed the border which no one's going to know how to verify e that in the ininterior content, i.c.e. won't remove those people. and, in fact, if i.c.e. wants to approach somebody like that or
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apprehend somebody, they have to have permission from headquarters. we're in a situation where we've encouraged people to come to the border and cross illegally and claim asylum and game the system, and in the interior there is almost no enforcement for people who are doing that. so these sheriffs are moving ahead and trying to get this administration to put policies in place that actually protected the border and prevented a surge like we're seeing now and abated the last surge. neil: now, a lot of these cases as you said now are adjudicated in the united states rather than mexico which used to be the case before. do we know what happened to those individuals as time goes on? i mean, what is the process? i know some migrant minors and the rest are transferred, actually, all over the country. we had a congressman on from tennessee, still another on from california, michigan. i understand that. but who keeps track of this, where do they go? >> this is the work of i.c.e., and so when people are taken into custody at cbp if, they're
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placed in what the government terms under daca control which means they're afforded an opportunity to see an immigration judge whether for an asylum claim or immigration status being here illegally. so that affords them a hearing. but what happens is they're let go into the united states right there, they're referred to the immigration court, and they're -- what has happened in the past, many of them will not follow up on those asylum claims or go to immigration court. that's the history of what's happened previously. and if you go to a place like phoenix or los angeles, it may be years before those hearings are scheduled. and so that's what's happening. people are coming to the border, they're being releasedded, they're on this economy, and they live illegally in the united states. and when it comes time for them to go to immigration court, many of them will not show up. neil: you know, ron, it's a separate issue, but it does kind of tie into this. the biden administration has looked at reassessing the number
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of deportations that occurred under president trump. i don't know what they're looking at, but it could mean that those who were deported will be brought back. we just don't know how many and what the guidelines are. do you? >> i have, i've seen the reporting on it, i have not seen the specifics of the guidelines. but, again, these people were afforded a due process. they were allowed to see an immigration judge, or they were removed under safeguards after a due process scenario. and encouraging them now to come to the border or trying to find them overseas and bring them to the united states, again, we're sending a signal to the world that we don't really want to enforce this border, and that's not good for the men and women of cbp, our border communities or homeland security. neil: all right. ron vitiello, thank you, ron, coming in on a saturday. have a happy fourth weekend. we did put a call out to administration on this, this latest lawsuit from sheriffs. we have not heard back.
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mt. -- in the meantime, you're getting ready for the big grilling, right? you've probably heard that the administration has said the cost of grilling is actually, depending on the items used, 16 cents less than it was a year ago. 16 cents. before you spend all that money in one place, we should outline there are some distinctions here and some things they're not including. and i'm not talking about gas which is up more than a buck a gallon, i'm talking about the tough that you grill -- the stuff that you grill. after this.
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know, promoting the fact that, you know, grilling this year is going to be, you know, about 16 cents less than last year based on the items it chose, what was left out in the some of these items was that they don't match what we're experiencing here. you can see, you know, anything from pork, chicken, and we're going to rifle through all of these that are going up high single digits if not more in some cases, and even the comparison the administration was using for the 16 cent thing are based on year-ago levels when a lot of this stuff was already spiking because of short supply and factories that that weren't open during the pandemic. so a more realistic number would be back in 2019. i digress, but to make the nerdy point that, you know, this really doesn't june with the reality. now, i don't want the chief deputy whip to start trashing the administration, too much of a gentleman to do that, nor would he do that or to argue the math but i am saying,
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congressman, that why brag about something that even if it were exactly true and the items selected were, indeed, exactly down 16 cents year-over-year, why would you brag about that at a time when we know prices are soaring on just about everything else? >> yeah. well, first, you know, i don't know if it's quite bragging. the data does come from the farm bureau. if i were to look at it, i would say, yeah, i think we know that there are some supply chain issues, and that's real. and i hear it from my own constituents. some things cost more than they used. to but as to where we were a year ago, we're coming in the right direction, and that's certainly the way ill interpret the information -- can i would interpret the information. but i get your point. people are feeling it. we have to get through this pandemic, and when we do, i think what we'll see is some of this inflationary pressure that was of predicted, even chair powell at the federal reserve said we should expect some but that it'll dissipate if, hopefully this isn't going to be
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too much of an upset to folks as they celebrate the independence of our nation. a great weekend. neil: i understand that, congressman. and i can see your point. but i just think that, i wonder when this goes through a lot of people's checklist to say, all right, we're going to put this out. does anyone who's looking at that shop at stores, do they see, you know, bacon is really soaring in cheese really soaring. chicken wings, they're soaring. you know? italian sausage, a big personal concern of mine, congressman, that's almost doubled. so i'm just wondering in the texture of this, and you're telling them let them eat cake because maybe the cake is a little cheaper than it was before. i don't mean to be silly, but i wonder if this whole, if this whole message is silly and they should have not done it. have a great fourth, to your point, don't do this because it
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looks dumb. >> well, you know, i think -- i get that point. this is probably not the white house's best message for the week, obviously. this is something that we observe. but i think it is important where we do see some good news even if it's offset by some other issues that we're not afraid to point out there are some good things happening as well. neil: you're a gentleman. let me go on to something else and maybe get you to trip up and that -- i'm kidding. this whole notion that inflation is transitory, now, that can sometimes be the case. mostly though, congressman, in history it is, it is far from mostly e the case. in other words, often times what starts stays. two prior inflationary spirals in the 1970s started with oil. this, ironically, started with oil and gas, and it spread everywhere. are you worried that the administration not addressing the inflationary pressures risks
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pulling another jimmy carter here? >> well, we obviously always want to be concerned and try to manage the economy to avoid runaway inflation. i think there is a difference in terms of the experience we're having now and those past periods where, as you point out, there were structural problems in the economy going back to the late 1970s, for sure, because this inflation their pressure that was really difficult -- inflationary pressure was really difficult to reel in. what we're dealing with now, i guess arguably, is a transitory situation because we have a once in a generation or one in a century -- once in a century pandemic that caused a shutdown or slowdown of large parts of the economy. now the infusion of capital back into the economy to get us restarted again can cause -- and it was predictedded that it would cause -- some temporary effect on inflation.
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now, we've also seen some upward wage pressure which is, obviously, a positive thing, up 3.6% in the last year. but your point is a good one. we need the watch this. thankfully, i believe anyway, that the fed, federal reserve, has done a pretty good job over the last few administrations in managing inflation, and i have confidence in chair powell that they'll use the tools they have to try to deal with this. the administration has its role, but the federal reserve really has a critical role in managing inflation, and i have pretty good confidence that their track record at least recently has been pretty good, and i hope that they'll continue to address it. neil: kind of signal as you know, sir, they're going to sit and watch this a while. they don't want to jump the gun and start raising rates. they certainly hope it's transitory, but do you think -- is this the a worry for you going into the midterms, that inflation, higher prices boomerang and hurt democrats? >> well, i think we have to do
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the right thing and then let the politics take care of itself. so, you know, if the measures we take have a political implication, we ought to focus on doing the right thing and making sure that we're managing the economy prom properly. so it may or may not hurt democrats. if we want to look at it through that lens, what will help democrats and, certainly, support for the administration is that if a year from now the economy is much stronger than it has been, will be and that inflation's being managed and if that upward wage pressure is rewarding people with better take-home pay. i think's going to be the case. thank god we're coming out of this pandemic and we just got the june jobs report, 850,000 people back to work. 350,000 or so in the leisure and if hospitality industry which is one that is aal that we're coming back -- a signal that we're coming back pretty strong. neil: dan kildee, thank you very
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much. i'm always fascinated by the drums. i know that you play drums. >> i will tell you, neil, it has been a good source of therapy. i've played for 50 years, but i think in the last year i've played more than ever before. [laughter] neil: dan kildee, thank you very much. house chief deputy the whip. all right, we're following a number of developments, trying to get more information on this japanese mudslide, 19 people missing, but they're fearing hundreds more. we're hearing reports that 100 are potentially unaccounted for, but they just don't know. it's still early. also following developments in this surfside, florida, where authorities are going to get an update on how they're dealing with that right now and also a pending hurricane barreling down directly for that area. after this.
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considered missing, and now a hurricane barreling down in the caribbean now but could be headed toward at least southeast florida. that's one of its latest trajectories here. all of this at a time that we've learned that a north miami beach 10-story condo building has been evacuatedded after reports cited a number of engineering and related irregularities. the whole building was evacuated yesterday, and they have found room for those residents in area hotels. this is on the heels of a county-wide inspection of all high-rises whether they're on the coast or not in the miami-dade county area, and it is extended, we're told, to a number of other towns and facilities and counties in florida out of an abundance of caution. miami mayor francis suarez joins us now on these latest developments. first of all on surfside, mayor -- very good to have you,
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by the way -- any news you can share with us? it still looks the same, making progress, still looks stubbornly difficult. what are you hearing? >> well, it has been stubbornly difficult, and last night or the night before, tragically, one of our firefighters had his 7-year-old daughter that, unfortunately, was in the rubble and was identified as one of the accounted for. and he is, you know, our hearts and prayers are with him and our entire fire department which happened to be the search and rescue team that was on the time, the recovery of the body. so it's a very, very tragic 24 hours for us. the other issue, of course, we know that the building has been swaying and have monitors that check from one side to the other that check the actual building that's remaining standing. and the county mayor yesterday issued an order that will demoll
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ifish that building. the only thing uncertain is when. with a potential hurricane on the horizon, that creates additional complications as the search and rest -- rescue team continues their work. neil: just to clarify, you're talking about the remaining structure of the champlain towers south that is still standing, they want to demoll ifish that. do you know when that's going to happen? >> no. the county mayor hasn't indicated yet when that's going to happen. obviously, a lot of factors at play including the fact that there's a hurricane on the horizon. and certainly, i think she's going to have to weigh how it will or what will impede or affect the search and rescue efforts, because it is extremely dangerous and limiting to have that building up when you have, you know, firefighters in a search rescue mode sometimes underneath the garage, sometimes under the rubble. obviously, we're taking every precaution necessary, but it is extremely dangerous. neil: to your point, and we
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mentioned hurricane elsa, mayor, 85 mile-an-hour winds right now, a little over a category 1 storm, but it is expected to strengthen. the winds often times come ahead of the hurricane itself. and i'm just wondering if it is looking like potential landfall as soon as tuesday. i think this could complicated, to your point, these rescue efforts as soon as tomorrow or monday, right? >> well, there's no doubt about it. we've already had to stop on certain occasions based on the elements certainly not favorable to search efforts. at least that i'm aware of, the weather has not been cooperating and with a potential hurricane looming, that could, you know, unfortunately force the rescue team to have to stop working. neil that'll you know, mayor, we're finding out some of the details about this north miami beach 10-story condo that was evacuated out of an abundance of
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caution because of some concerns about a its structure and engineering issues. that's the kind of stuff i'm sure a lot of your residents and constituents fear. this is more than just, you know, a south tower issue for this particular condo. in other words, there's something engineering wise that's questionable for a number of other high-rises in and around the area. are you worried about that? >> you know, this tragedy has been traumatizing for our community for a number of reasons, one of which is we obviously have, you know, 160 people that are, you know, that were involved, and many people know the people that were involved. but the orr reason is you have a lot of buildings that are over five stories, older than 40 years, and the one in particular that was evacuated had missed its 40-year certification by nine years. champlain south was undergoing a 40-year certification. we were the first municipality,
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the first city that actually required all of our buildings that were five stories and above and older than 40 years to get an engineering report certifying, you know, certifying the structural integrity of the buildings. but as you can imagine, miamians are sleeping in anxiety and fear because they fear something like this could happen again. it's going to take time, and it's going the take resources for us to get to a place where everyone feels comfortable again in their buildings. and that's just natural. it's a natural, unfortunate result of this tragedy. if. neil: you know, later on today donald trump will be holding a really i believe in sarasota, part of governor desantis -- [inaudible] because of developments in surfside. what about you in. >> no, i'm definitely going to stay here in miami, and, you know, i'm focused on what's happening not only in surfside, but with the looming hurricane,
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what's happening in the miami area. surfside is about 30 minutes north of miami, and we have our urban search and rescue team on the 12 p.m. to 12 a.m. shift, so i'm focused on those things right now. neil: mayor francis suarez, very good to see you. >> good to see you, neil. neil: all right. for the nation it is getting out and celebrating the fourth as the focus is on just getting to where you want to go to celebrate the fourth. you'll have a lot of competition, and you'll be bumping into a lot of crowds. doesn't anita vogel know it with this report from reagan international airport. anita. >> reporter: hi, neil. we're in the midst of the long july 4th holiday weekend, and experts are predicting it will almost be buzz as usual. business as usual. more than 3.5 million people are expected to travel by plane over the weekend. that is the most since the pandemic started. many are experiencing long lines
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across the country at airports, and, you know, the whole system -- airports, rental car agencies and the like -- they are a bit rusty after nearly a year off of the kind of crushing travel we're used to. so what does that mean for the rest of the summer? first of all, there will be a shortage of workers almost everywhere you go in the airport. the tsa is so short of workers, they're asking for volunteers. and if they're also looking to hire 6,000 new employees, and they're offering $1,000 bonuses. not a bad deal if you're looking for a new job. overall, the tsa is projecting staffing shortages at roughly 130 airports across the country. and rental car agencies are having trouble rounding up enough cars, so that could impact your airport experience as well. and, you know, sometimes as we've seen during the past few months, the skies are not always so friendly. frustrations over having to wear a mask and other post-pandemic
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anxieties have left travelers feeling a bit testy. there have been a number of fights breaking out, even passengers assaulting flight attendants. hopefully, we won't see too much more of that. but, neil, the bottom line is the airports are expected to be very busy over the summer. so a tip for travelers, think ahead, plan ahead and, please, don't forget this, your mask. you have to wear one to get into the airport, you won't be able to go through tsa without it, and you definitely need it to get on the plan. neil, back to you. neil: all right. got it. a anita vogel, thank you very much. what's remarkable about all this human being crush to get out right now and just have some fun is the fact that we're going to put up with an awful lot, how it is in the skies this -- these days and the roads these days, paying more for those airline are tickets, more for gasoline, more for almost anything despite the 16 cents you might be saving for your barbecue on the fourth.
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i want to get into that with frances newton stacy, michelle snyder and daviding sacco, economic practitioner, university of new haven. professor, i want to begin with you. our resilience in the face of all of this, pay more to put up with more because we just are so eager to break out of our seclusion. what do you think? >> absolutely, neil. i mean, demand has increased faster than anyone expected during the height of the pandemic, and that's a good thing. the downside of that when demand goes up, prices go up. and then as prices go up, that helps us reallocate resources more efficiently and, ultimately, that price cycle will work itself through, and things will revert back to normal. but in general, it's a good sign because it means demand is coming back, and i think that's going to help us really recover from the pandemic crisis. neil: michelle, i don't like to get too sidetrackedded by the market, but there were new
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records this week, the dow and the nasdaq, the s&p continuing to advance, the s&p and the nasdaq at all-time highs. is that the market's way of saying it's not worried about inflation? are you worried about inflation? >> well, to answer the first question, the market is definitely not worried as much as they probably should be about inflation. and there are some reasons why. if you look at what's happening in the bond-buying program with all the talk it's still robust by the federal reserve, if you look at the yields, they're still low. and i do believe that whether or not this inflation is transitory or not, we're till in this really interesting -- we're still in this really interesting cycle where commodities compare to equities still very close to historic lows. so just from a cyclical standpoint, the potential for very high inflation is there. whether it happens the next three months, six months or a year from now. so i think what the market is doing though is having somewhat of a divide, and that's really important to note. yes, the s&p 500's making new
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highs and the nasdaq and a lot of these mega cap stocks, but if you look at some of the other sectorses, they're not quite there yet, and they could be a little bit ahead of the game in terms of transmitting this warning like some of the financials, for example, and the transportation stocks, for example. so you've got to watch this diversion and see what happens over the next couple of weeks. neil: got it. you're an encyclopedia with. when you're talking about bond buying, the federal reserve has been scarfing up all the mortgage-backed securities, municipal bonds, corporate bonds to forcibly keep rates down. they're unwinding that, or they're supposed to be thinking about unwinding that right now as the economy's ready for the it, but that's the zillion $dollar question, right, francis? the federal reserve can respond to inflationary questions by slowing that buying down or reversing it. or, or raising rah rates. it doesn't -- interest rates.
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it doesn't seem like it is a hike in rates b should it be? this. >> they're definitely not going to start raising interest rates until they stop buying bonds. neil: exactly. >> take heart. there are five things that got us to these record, record highs in the markets. [audio difficulty] accelerating inflation, accelerating corporate profits, historical fiscal stimulus and historical monetary stimulus. and with the exception of the fed, the other four are softening. early indicators because, of course, markets like to price things in really far in advance, remember, by the time those economic data prints come out, markets are pricing in what's next, what's next, what's next. markets started buying inflation and the reopening in november. so lumber just sold off 40%. there is enthusiasm buying, you know, 20-year bonds, and the dollar has had a reversal. so there are some traders that
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think inflation is, indeed, transitory. and if those four things start breaking down, four out of the five, you could see that could be true. neil: all right. professor, for the time being, even with these pressures, people are buying. there are confidence surveys out in the past week that are the most robust they've been many years. people are more upbeat than many, many years. is that justified? do you see this as something that has some sticking power to it in not the price pressure, just the strong economy. >> absolutely, neil. i mean, you know, we saw a record drop in demand a year ago, and then it popped up just as quickly. that seems relatively sustainable. a lot of it is related to government policies and the fed easing as the other guests have mentioned. one thing i would note about the fed is while it was a subtle change two weeks ago, they did sort of change their forecast from 2023 to late 2022. so that tells you that the fed
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has inflation and they're starting to talk about inflation again. and i think the markets will react to that, right? what the markets care about is, is the fed monitoring the situation, what are they doing about it, and i think that was a signal we saw two weeks ago. and it wouldn't shock he if the fed changes their guidance again slowly over the next few months. they don't want to scare the markets, but let them know that it's on the horizon and they see it coming. neil: i'll ask a very simple question, are we in for ooh '70s type inflation? i don't see it myself. michelle, what about you? >> well, the oil really trove the start of the inflation in the mid '70s and some of the soft commodities followed in kind especially sugar which, of course, is used for ethanol. and then it was a few years later that we started to see the big rally in gold and silver -- neil: bottom line, you don't see it. i'm jumping on it. francis, do you see it? >> no. i know you're traumatized by your first mortgage, and i fully
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understand it -- [laughter] but i don't see it. record amount of december service, and debt service is going to weigh on those inflationary numbers. neil: guys, sorry to be so ruled. she was referring, of course, my wife and i on our first mortgage were paying 13.5%. i think what they're saying is it could be a hell of a lot worse and it's not. after this.
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♪ neil: all right, this is it is a holiday weekend. at least today the president's going to be in travers city, michigan, he's talking about the great progress we've made against the virus and a number of other things. mark meredith at the white house with more. >> reporter: neil, good morning to you. the biden administration certainly making a big public push to get more americans
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vaccinated. the just left the white house a -- the president just left the white house, the first lady is going to be up in maine and new hampshire. the cdc has given us a breakdown of where things stand with the vaccine, close to 158 million americans have been -- excuse me, 56 million americans have been -- 156 million americans have been fully vaccinated and close to 58% of adults 18 and older are fully vaccinated. the white house certainly wanted those numbers to be a bit higher than right now. the president, though, insists that progress being made. he did issue a warning on friday with covid cases on the rise in some communities. >> i am concerned that people who have not gotten vaccinated have the capacity to catch the variant and if spread the variant to other people who have not been vaccinated. i am not concerned there's going to be a major outbreak, in other words, that we're going to have
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another epidemic nationwide. but i am concerned liveses will be lost. >> reporter: as for this holiday week, it's no secret that millions of americans are traveling, and whether you're vaccinated or not, the federal mask mandate remains for people fly, taking a train or traveling by bus. it has become frustrated nor travelers who are vaccinated and don't want to wear a mask. now a bipartisan group of lawmakers want to see some of those rules reined in. senate amy klobuchar right to the cdc last week, saying: if the requirement for wearing masks while traveling could be safely listed, we believe it would benefit the travel public. the federal mask mandate is not due to expire until early september, and there's been no indication that is going to change anytime soon. but, neil, we have certainly seen that uptick in passenger incidents onboard airplanes with a lot of flight attendants saying people have to be disciplined and in some cases
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thrown off aircraft. neil, back to you and happy 4th, buddy. neil: all right. to you as well. mark meredith at the white house. we are awaiting word from surfside, florida, from officials how the rescue mission is going. stay with us, you are watching fox news. ♪ sometimes you wanna go ♪ ♪ where everybody knows your name ♪ ♪♪ ♪ and they're always glad you came ♪ welcome back, america. it sure is good to see you. ....
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they desperately search for 126 people who remain missing. you know, neil, this has really been a tough situation not only for the families, but for the first responders who are at that collapse site, some of whom have family members who lived inside of that building and are still missing. there was an incident of a seven-year-old girl pulled from that rubble, she is the daughter of a miami firefighter. we're told that firefighter had been working around the clock helping with the search and rescue efforts when his daughter was discovered, and first responders created a line as that firefighter escorted his daughter away from that collapse site. now, that press conference is about to begin. i'll send it back to you. neil: thank you, charles. governor desantis is speaking. >> it was a category 1 at 75 miles an hour, they just issued the 11 a.m. advisory and it was
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downgrade today a tropical storm. so i think that we're dealing with is a strong tropical storm right on the edge of a category 1 hurricane, but fortunately, has gone just a little below so there's about 70 miles per hour sustained winds registered. the impact from the storm, whether it's a strong tropical storm or a weak hurricane, will begin affecting the florida keys and portions of the south florida peninsula as early as monday, possibly spreading northward toward the peninsula on tuesday depending on the track. we're preparing for isolated tornados, heavy rainfall and flash flooding. the track -- the severity of the storm is uncertain. the state of emergency applies to the charlotte, citrus, hardy, hernando, hillsboro, manatee, miami-dade, pasco, piniellas and sarasota counties. you're looking at a track passing over the western portion of cuba and end up in
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the florida straits and start impacting florida with the eye of the storm looking to be on the west side of florida so we obviously do what we do when it comes to the tropical storms and the hurricanes. that's just what we do. kevin guthrey has been designated as an officer for the duration of the storm and our executive order will assist the division and the state emergency response team in responding to the storm and ensuring floridians are prepared for possible impact. now, as we mentioned yesterday, we have a building here in surfside that is tottering, it's structurally unsound. though the storm is not likely to push in this direction, you could feel gusts in that area, we don't know, it's definitely a possibility and so, i know the mayor and both mayors have had supported demolishing the
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building. we brought in on the state level, the department of transportation engineers to examine the remaining structure and proposed different paths forward for demolition. i'm pleased to announce the state will pay for all costs associated with the demolition of the remaining structure. yesterday we both-- we spoke with both mayor kava and burkette's team to pursue the demolition of the building. i'm supportive, i think it's the right thing to do. at the end of the building, it's too unsafe to let people get in. i know a lot of people got out and have things there, we're sensitive to that i don't know there's any way you could let anybody up in this building given the shape it is now. so if the building is taken down, this will protect our search and rescue teams because we don't know when it could fall over, and of course, with these gusts, potentially, you know, that would create a really severe hazard. so our mission is to expedite
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it as soon as possible. kevin guthrey reports to me that once everything is ready to go, that it can be brought down within 36 hours, and so, it will entail minimal work stoppage from the search and rescue, they would have to stop a little bit before and a little bit after just to make sure there were no fires, but probably the most minimal interruption in terms of the course of action they're pursuing. so, floridians, just watch this, it's a beautiful day today, the best day we've had for sure. you're not likely to see any impacts today or tomorrow, but as we get into monday, here in southern florida and other parts of the florida as we get into tuesday, anticipate some impact. we're hopeful that the storm just doesn't have enough runway to gain much speed and strength before it reaches our peninsula, but, again, these things are just things that we have to watch, but we feel pretty confident that we are
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going to be experiencing at least a tropical storm that's going to impact a lot of communities in florida. with that i can take a couple of questions. >> after a week of coverage and the world watching-- (inaudible) >> well, it's a good questionment what can people take? i would just say that this was a tragedy, unlike others that we've seen, just because you would not think a building would collapse in the middle of the night so i think the shock was unlike anything i've ever seen. i think the angst particularly of the families, not knowing if they had loved ones in that building. the folks that were able to escape was obviously a traumatic experience there, but you saw people come together very quickly. obviously, the search and rescue, they've been doing this
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nonstop and we've been able to work from municipal county, state, federal and international. we've had the israelis here and the ambassador to the u.s. yesterday and so i think that people have been captivated by it because it's such an awful thing. it's like there for the grace of god go i. what i tell people don't take anything for granted. make sure you tell people that are close to you that you love them, make sure you hug those-- i mean, i hug my kids anyway because i love them more than anything, but when you see something like that, you think about there were kids in the tower and then now, all of a sudden, you know, people's lives have been shattered and so, don't take anything for granted. the resilience of this community, south florida, florida, and our country, you know, has been remarkable. and i'm very proud to be associated with it, and i think that that's just what we do in florida, but at the same time, i mean, man, if you're out and
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just living your life, just understand that there can be tragedies that occur, you never know and make sure you appreciate what you've got. >> governor, how will it impact those? >> we hope it will impact it it in a minimal way. obviously the more the storm pushes west, 11 a.m. advisory actually nudge it had back a little east. the further west that the storm tracks, the less likely you're going to have impact here in surfside. however, given this plan, and if this plan is able to go forward, it's the opinion of the division of emergency management and director guthrey that this building can be brought down prior to those impacts, and so if you have the building down and you start to see wind pick up. that may not necessitate them stopping at all at that point. it depends, if they're out there though, and you start to get some of these gusts with that structure there, that
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would be a real, real hazard and i would imagine it would likely cause them to do work stoppage. so taking the building down, given the fact that the storm is coming and given the fact you were going to have to do this anyway, is the prudent thing to do and i think it will lead to the most -- the course of action that most minimally disrupts the rescue efforts. >> when will the building come down. >> what's that? >> when will the building come down? >> all i know kevin is working with mayors burkette and cava. they've got a contractor and i'd major the mayor is going to have that announcement relatively short order. >> yesterday we were being told that engineers and everyone are looking at the plans and probably take a few weeks to deal with the difficult mission to take the building down. what changed? >> well, maybe, kevin you want to speak to that? you were involved in it. >> tell the families, did you talk to the families this
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morning and how did they receive this news. >> the second question i'm going to let mayor cava talk about because mayor cava talked to those individuals. >> emergency management, we make the best decision at the time, and i'm mayor the mayor made the best decision at the time. another contractor-- not a contractor, but set of engineers gave a new briefing which allowed there to be a opportunity, and i want to let mayor cava give the details. explosives or a wrecking ball? >> i'll let the mayor talk about that. i think what kevin is talking about, bringing it straight down with the charge, some type of charge. >> what announcements have you given that you made the decision. >> in terms of the building?
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>> that was obviously-- well, that was obviously a decision that the mayor a jishgs. and we think that it's the best thing to do because you'd hate to see there be another disaster out there with this building, if it falls the wrong way, that would really put us back and so given the difficult circumstances, i think both surfside and miami-dade or making the best decision under the circumstances and again, we pledge support from the beginning to be able to work through this problem. we've sent the engineering know-how and we're going to handle the cost of it and we're happy to do that. >> as you know, the east side of the storm is always a major concern. if the models wobble, that accelerates the bringing down the building? >> i think that will be dependent what the mayor is doing. i don't know that we could get impact here. if this starts moving quickly, i think it would be done, even
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if we did get a wobble east because we probably wouldn't be looking at impact here until, what do you think, kevin, early monday, late tuesday? so we do have some time and that's why when we do things with the hurricanes, we want people the ability to prepare. the counties we enunciated, that can change as the storm track changes. if it goes west, we could even take miami-dade out of it if there's not an impact in miami-dade. if it's closer east, then obviously, potentially as we get into northern florida probably going to have to add some counties in the interior. so, that's all there. we're ready, we're watching every track and making whatever adjustments that we need to do. final thing i'll say before i head back and do more stops here and then i will be in eoc in tallahassee later. my wife and i were able to go back to the memorial wall down the street and i was there early on and the amount of outpouring you've seen has
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grown exponentially and it was very moving. when i first went i knew some of the families, now i've met a lot more of them so i recognize these folks and i've heard stories about their lives and what they meant to family and friends, so it was really moving and you know, i look at that and it just, it's a such a range, you have people who lived a full life at age 90-plus, you have young kids, you have some of these younger adults in the prime of their life, have all of these opportunity ahead of them, you know, very, very special group of people. so it's -- you know, the community's come together and i think that's made it easier. i know the families really appreciate all the support, but it's tough. and it's really been, really been difficult to see. i'm going to be going to a service for one of the synagogues in aventura and they
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have some of their congregates living there and are missing. and up and down the coast you see in a whole bunch of community organizations and religious organizations and touched a lot of people. and we've put, obviously, a lot of effort into it as a state and as a local community and we'll continue to do it. but, you know, it's been real difficult because i think you don't expect to see something like this and it just touched a lot of people. so, we'll have more updates on the hurricane. >> buildings surrounding? >> and to speak in spanish we have the lt. governor. neil: we're going to continue monitoring this. the upshot here, you might have been hearing a lot of a demolition of a building. this is the remaining structure from the south tower there that is pretty precarious and things
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stand now. the governor was referring the timing of that is going to be brought down and it's scheduled for demolition and we don't know exactly when that will happen. and the count though sadly remains the same. 126 are missing and we're learning north miami beach condo several miles away from the rescue site was evacuated after engineers noticed a number of irregularities and problems, in abundance of caution urged the facility completely evacuated and it was yesterday. with us now is steve, a resident survivor of this collapse. he's suing the condo association there. he was kind enough to stay with us as we were monitoring this press conference. mr. rosenthal, thank you for joining us. >> thank you, hi, neil. neil: tell us a little about that night.
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i'm sure many, many ask you, if you can kind of tell us where you were, what happened. >> okay. i was sleeping, you know, it was about 1:20, i guess a.m. in the morning and i heard the loudest thunder clap i ever heard in my life times 100. and i went, okay, you know, it's miami, it's june and you know, big storm coming. and about five seconds later, the bed began to shake. bedroom began to shake and i honestly thought i thought this is a dream and i'm in an earthquake in california and i'm ready to roll over ap you know, go back to sleep. about five seconds later, the dust from the ceiling starts falling on me an and i thought, well, this is no dream. i jump up i run through the living room to open up the sliding glass doors to see if the city of miami is on fire because i think it's just a major earthquake, and running
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10,000 earthquake, you know, with my luck. this is the 10,000th year. i can't see anything, just all dust. i run to the door to open to see the hallway and i just get hit with a plume of dust, smoke, it knocks me back like a sonic boom. i said to myself. steve, you're in it now i run back to the bedroom, found a shopping back, put two pair of jeans, two pair of underwear, two pair of t-shirts, a belt, pair of shoes, got my wallet, ipad, iphone and opened up the front door again, and i just see everything collapse. the ceiling, you just can't get out and i hear my numbers, 705, and i'm 704 and help me, help me get me out. that's out. i run to the balcony, it's not
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an earthquake, don't see any damage across the street and thinking it's the roof because we had construction on the roof a few weeks before. another lady on the balcony above me goes, the whole back of the building collapsedment i said what do you mean? >> the whole back of the building is gone. so we're out there on the balcony now the fire department's coming, you know, 10, 20, 30 fire vehicles, fire rescue. and evacuate, evacuate, when is the front. building going to collapse on us, took 45 minutes maybe longer until they got to me on the seventh floor and i got into what's called a cherry picker and got in there with my shopping bag and my messenger bag and rescued from my balcony. pretty surreal. surreal times a hundred is what it was. neil: incredible. to put it milder, steve. and you know, we were hearing
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reports na there were troublesome signs. there were problems, cracks noticed, flooding and other things and i guess you cited or among the things cited in your suit against the condo association, are you arguing that the condo association could have prevented this, that it ignored warnings? what exactly? >> well, it's-- there's no question that there were cracks here and there, and i mean, i didn't -- you know, i'm not one of those guys that was instantly involved with the board of directors and attended all the meetings or anything like that, but there was an assessment passed in 2018, it wasn't passed, that they were going to do a $9 million assessment in 2018 for these repairs and people balked about it because it was too expensive. that turned into a $16 million assessment that was passed. and that was-- we were starting to pay july 1. there's no question-- listen, we elect a board of directors to look out for us.
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and it seems like there's some negligence on the board of directors and other factors. we think that the building next door maybe had some cull pablt. maybe the roofing company has culpability. and the inspectors, all stuff coming out who is culpable, responsible for something like this to ham. it's just unbelievable. neil: so this former condo association president who had, you know, said that these issues were severe enough to warrant this $15 million assessment i guess it would have been for every individual owner to pay 100,000 some as high as $200,000, that she had warned that this was something that had to be addressed. what did residents say? and how did they answer that? >> well, i don't know how familiar you are with the surfside, but surfside is a
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really up and coming area. it's always been a nice area, but you know, you have the four seasons down the street, you have chateau fendi, the harbor up the street, so you know, we wanted to fix the building up, keep up with the joneses and repairs, hey, to have $100,000 assessment. mine was 105 and pay in full, 800 a month for 15 years if i wanted to drag it out that way, you're my age, 72, a lot of senior citizens that lived in the building, it's a lot of money all of a sudden and it's not the ritz or the four season, not the rothchilds in that building there. neil: so. >> so people were, you know, like they were worried. neil: that was a lot of money, i understand that was a lot of money to pay and all that, but were there other warnings? we don't have much time here, steve. this other building that went
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up near yours, debris and all was hitting your building and i'm just wondering whether you think that had a role to play here? >> absolutely. we knew two three years ago, whenever that construction was going down, there were-- there was a bang, bang, bang, bang. it was just-- you could feel it at champlain towers and you could feel it in the floors no doubt about it. neil: thank you for taking the time and i know you're travelling. hope you have safe travels, you've been through a lot. the best to you and family and loved ones worried about you. be well. steve rosenthal, resident survivor now suing the condo situation there. we've got an update on the dead, 24 up from 22. ♪ where everybody knows your name ♪ ♪♪
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♪ ♪ >> you know, a lot happened this past week and one of the more bizarre reviews had to be that concerning britney spears, her father remains in control of her conservatorship and a lot of people are saying the close to 40-year-old rock star, how is that allowed to keep happening? ken bellkin criminal defense attorney. is there something we're missing here. and the arrangement leaving just the father in control of things, but i'm wondering, how that happened? did she not file the right paper work to sever these ties? or did the judge say, you're not ready, britney? what? >> well, neil, thanks for having me, i hope you're having a happy fourth this weekend. with respect to the bessemer
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trust, i think this has been a public relations disaster for this company. they should want off and they've got somebody publicity contesting this and is a celebrity. this is a nightmare for the trust company. neil: the father, the judge-- and this surprised me and i'm not blaming britney or other lawyer, if this was about providing the right paper work to file for this disconnect and they didn't, what does this mean? the judge couldn't separate right away, right? >> yeah, i mean there's always procedural hurdles in any case that involves motions being filed for relief from the court. it's not uncommon for people to file papers and kicked back and refiled. it's not a good look for this to happen this publicly. neil: so in the case of britney spears, it seems, who am i to
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judge, her act is together or at least more together than it was when this sort of thing might have been necessary. why not just-- it's your life, britney, you're almost 40 years old. you don't need your dad anymore, you don't need to pay him $60,000 a month anymore. roll the dice and you're on your own. why not? what would stop a judge from doing that? >> look, getting paid $60,000 a month to be a dad is pretty good deal. not one that i have, but the reality is, there's so much evidence to show this is not a person that needs a court ordered supervision over herself and her assets. a couple years ago, she did a record breaking residency in las vegas, generated $128 million, sold nearly a million tickets and then we can't give her a credit card? i mean, this makes no sense. she's clearly competent. neil: all right, so it remains, she's still answerable to her
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father. how common are these type of things, ken? because they seem bizarre to me. >> it's fairly common. in the state of new york where i practice, and we call it guardianship not conservatorship, there are judges that have consumers that are solely dedicate today these cases that are working five days a week and the reality is, there are times when family members act predatory, they see a weakness in a family member that has assets and they go for it. i've had to defend several people alleged to be incapacitated from situations like this, it's very sad. neil: do you think she'll eventually be freed? >> i think there's so much public pressure on this, that i think they're going to have no choice, but to let her go, so long as she files the paper work. neil: it's amazing. comes down to the paper work. thank you for this. things got messy for the trump
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dollars spent, probing the trump organization and mr. weisselberg himself, you could say all i got was a lousy t-shirt and slapped for not paying taxes on some perks? it does bend credulity here. ken starr is the former whitewater counsel. and i don't mean to make light of those who evade the tax man, but there's argument when they were committed and taxes and who didn't pay them, but i'm thinking this is a multi-million dollar investigation into every crevice of the trump empire and this is what they come up with. it's like a big nothing burger. what did you make of it? [laughter]. >> right. you know, neil, you're onto something. one of the rules of the road for ethical prosecutors is you go criminally only once you've carefully considered going civilly, not trying to throw
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people in jail, but to achieve what needs to be achieved upped the law. so go civil, not criminal. that's in the u.s. attorney's manual, the justice department procedure, it's sound ethical practice. and this has the look and feel of a civil case. so, if what happened is alleged actually happened and it's bad and it should be remedied, but this has the look and feel, the 15-count indictment, of a targeted politically inspired prosecution. if that's so, that's terrible. that's one the cardinal sins of prosecutors. neil: so in other words, by making it grand larceny and i guess up to 15 years in prison comes with that, you're trying to get mr. weisselberg to flip or turn on donald trump or others in the organization, right? but i mean, that seems to be a bit extreme here. so on that aspect i'd like to
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you comment and on the second one being whether he would. >> the first is, you betcha. that's what prosecutors do try to do, work your way up the organization. so you put pressure on one person and that's the cfo, mr. weisselberg, and you hope that the pressure is such that at his tender age in his 70's, he'll then say prosecutors, what do you want? and we're here to deal. now, thus far there's been no indication of that, but it's early. so, that's a classic prosecutorial technique and to work your way up through the organization or horizontally. the indictment, as you know, neil, talks about and others, so it's as if that this was a corporate practice, this is an allegation, it's got to be proved, of the trump organization and even a reference in one of the paragraphs, paragraph nine, to a check being signed by the former president himself. so he's not been indicted.
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no member of the family has been indicted but it looks as if this is phase one after this very, as you rightly point out, very expensive investigation. neil: you know, obviously, a pretty shrewd financial guy. he's been with donald trump actually in the days of his father. so he knows what he's doing and able, he must have assessed the charges coming his way. there was talk and reports that he-- they were working very hard to get him to flip on mr. trump, that never happened. would this change that at all? if he wasn't flipping there, would he flip now? >> well, the answer is such a deeply personal question for mr. weisselberg and obviously, for his family. are you prepared to go through the ordeal of a trial and so forth and if the prosecutor is offering you an attractive bargain, say no jail time for you, and i'm hypothesizing
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here, or limited jail time, tell us what you know. and it's heavy, and burdensome for an individual regardless of his or her age, getting on in his 70's and so forth. so the prosecutor is in the cat bird's seat and he can sigh cyrus vance, d.a., look what i'm giving you a free get out of jail card and except you have a totally cooperate and the hammer is there to go after other members of the organization in the hope that they will-- that that seems to be what's at stake here, that they can somehow get the former president. that's a big set of issues and you're so right, this is along, not just an expensive investigation, but a very long investigation and look what they came up with. essentially a tax issue, which is, frankly, not unique to the
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trump organization if the allegations are true. neil: yeah, i also wonder, ken, if it were any other organization that didn't have the name trump in it, would this have ever been filed? >> there's a serious issue, i think of selective prosecution. again, this goes back to the politically nature of this, and prosecutors, they maybe under political pressure themselves to go after a particular person or organization. they need to keep the measure true, the balance true and try to resist all those, but it's -- it looks, as i say, as if the prosecutor easily could have gone civilly, right, not threaten people with jail, but get the money back for new york and the united states and the city of new york and so forth. but he's playing very -- he, the prosecutor, is playing very hardball. not money ball, but hardball. neil: got it. ken starr, thank you very, very
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much. got it straightened out in my head. i appreciate that. we have a lot more coming up, including the u.s. navy's blue angels and the u.s. air force's thunderbirds. you've seen their air shows. and seeing it herself in kansas city. >> hey, neil, that we are. we're here in kansas city for all of our proud american coverage and we have more from that air show coming up next. ♪welcome back to that same old place♪ ♪that you laughed about♪ ♪well, the names have all changed♪ ♪since you hung around♪ welcome back, america. it sure is good to see you. welcome back, america. i don't just play someone brainy on tv - i'm an actual neuroscientist. and i love the science behind neuriva plus. unlike ordinary memory supplements, neuriva plus fuels six key indicators of brain performance. more brain performance? yes, please! neuriva. think bigger. never in a million years did i think i would lose 78 pounds.
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>> all right. i think i told abby, you have to fly around in a supersonic jet and you know, might be doing some -- in space almost. she's happy to do it and in kansas city, missouri for the event featuring the u.s. navy blue angels and u.s. air force thunderbirds, rarely together doing stuff, but i'll try
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anything when you're there, abby, how is it going there? >> yeah, i have a rough job, neil. i know it's hard i get to do these cool things, but you know, you mentioned, it is rare that these two squadrons perform together. they're just two of the performers that you will see at the air show this weekend, but again, very special because the thunderbirds made a last minute trip to kansas city and the navy blue angels will be debuting the super hornet for the 75th anniversary and thunderbirds are taking flight in an f-16. major michael brewer, a pilot for the thunderbird, the biggest difference is the number of engines. the thunderbirds have one while the blue angels have two and are both quote, phenomenal aircraft. even though there's a bit of friendly competition between the two squadrons, their thoughts on performing on a monumental day for our country run congruent. >> it's a proud day to be an
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american especially on fourth of july. to be able to perform on the fourth of july is a dream come true. >> i want the little girls look out and see the jets and awesome air show and take off helmets and see my braid and realize someone like that did that. >> showcase the excellence and inspires the youth who serve their country in any format. >> a perfect message from some of our nation's top pilots and a great show of patriotism ahead of the fourth of july. neil: you're very brave. that's all i'll say, for me an adventure is taking an escalator. and that is-- >> that can be scary, neil. neil: tell me about it, sometimes getting off it, i digress. happy fourth of july to you. you know, the first post-pandemic cruise has come back home in this country and the celebrity edge arriving
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back in dock at port everglades, florida. robert freedman was on board the first post-pandemic event and is joining us now to tell us how it went. robert, very good to have you, how was it? >> neil, thank you, it's great to be on. it was fantastic. along with my wife ruth and my two youngest kids, rose and max, we've been on 20-something cruises. my wife and i. the kids have been on a bunch of cruises and this was one of the best we've been on. neil: what was the itinerary? where did it go? >> it went to the western caribbean. went to mayan, cozumel and the bahamas and we went there yesterday. neil: was it packed? >> it was not packed at all only a third full so that was one of the reasons why it was so great. it was fairly empty because the capacity was limited, so plenty of space and, you know, easy to
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get food at the buffet, no lines for anything, no lines getting on or off. neil: that would be a problem for me, robert, the crowd at the buffet. that would be -- that would be a sight. but i'm noticing you and your beautiful family are wearing masks, was that required? >> it was not required. we're very cautious, we wore our masks indoors most of the time. it was not required. most of the passengers did not wear the masks. we wanted to be extra safe when we were at the, you know, at the shows, in the casino and in the club. things like that. when we were closer together. we wore our masks. most people did not and nobody was forced to wear a mask. neil: obviously, people were distanced because it wasn't at all packed, but i'm wondering how people are remembering the early days of the covid and all of these cruise ships that were dealing with problems and you know, stuck at sea as they were trying to wrestle depending
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where they were how to get them off the ship. did any of that cross your mind? geez, all we need is a few people to get covid. i assume your family were vaccinated. >> we were fully vaccinated. all the adults were fully vaccinated. and there were few children on board. we want today get back to cruising and we felt it was safe. the ceo richard thain was on board and he told everyone he thought it was the safest vacation they could take and i agreed because we were in our own little bubble there and everyone was vaccinated. we knew who everyone was and we felt very safe. neil: would you do it again? >> absolutely. we've got two booked right now, one with celebrity and one with-- >> is that right? >> yeah. neil: man, oh, man. all right. robert, you're doing pretty well for yourself young man, congratulations.
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>> haven't been on vacation for a while. neil: i hear you, i hear you for that and god bless you and your family. graduate everybody had a good time and furthermore that you're safe. there are going to be a rush on cruises right now, and can you take plans at laguardia when they're shipped, demand is high. and had you ready for the big barbecue? the administration says you're saving 16 cents, my buddy, remember him the beautiful family there robert deblasio. one of the things he's good at finding a way alternatives to some of those expensive, expensive cuts of beef after this. ♪ firing up the coleman grill ♪ ♪♪
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>> you know, i'm still having a problem with the administration saying things are 16 cents cheaper now to grill for this fourth of july holiday over last year, leaving aside the fact of so many items popular to barbecue has gone up double digits and you might be experiencing different numbers at home. rob is here the celebrity chef, robo cook food.com. chef rob, he helps us all with his beautiful daughter and how you can navigate the higher prices. how do you handle it, whatever the white house is saying, i'm not here to go hog wild on this-- see what i did there, hog wild? everything is cheaper than it was. you're finding that's not the case, but you have alternatives for it, explain. >> yeah, i'm going to have to
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disagree with them, neil. if they're cheaper, i'm not seeing them on my end. what we're doing, we're focusing on portion control. so we'll take that instead of 8-ounce, 10-ounce burger at home. a 3-ounce burger, on a slide errol, and piece of bread and put on condiments and cheaper things. a pulled pork burger slider that we -- that kaitlin is about, has got her eyes on and about to eat this soon. [laughter] >> she's a smart girl. >> she sure is. neil: we hear about bacon and pork chops and down to italian sausage and actually kielbasa, you name it. obviously that wasn't included on the president's list. how do you help people with that and if you tell me you cut the sausage in half and think your guests don't notice, i would notice.
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>> neil, what we do is, bacon is more than doubled, almost tripled in price over the past couple of months so i hate to say it, but we're avoiding it. you hit the nail on the head. when you're eating our food you're going to be eating the bigger pieces of sausage and we're going to have the larger portions for you and then we feed it to the kids and the girls here, they're getting smaller slices and yield their portions to neil cavuto, that's what it is. neil: that seems fair. let me get your take, too, how long this lasts. when you have a crowd over, i know you have a lot of buddies and everything, how do you prepare for that? do you mix it up, have a variety? where do you keep it simple? >> you know what? keep is simple and that's what it is. for the barbecue for the fourth of july we're keeping it simple, i'm going with the old school traditional food, you've got burgers, hot dogs which are cheaper, more expensive than
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they have about, traditional sausages and peppers, there's cheaper cuts of steak you can use, flank steak and hanger steak, than the ribeyes. we're going all out we're on cavuto live. we've got the ball team here. >> [cheers and applause] >> and we have the quesadillas. instead of 8, 10-ounce steaks and burgers, we are slice being up and using the ends, the tail ends. we bought the whole strip, is with going to save you about 30% as i was saying last time. save you about 30% and get the whole strip and you know, if you guys listened to me last time you cleaned out your freezer for memorial day. unfortunately inflation is a big issue if you're not using the whole steak, slice it up now and put it in the freezer. we're not going to see an end
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to this for at least another four to six weeks is what my guys are telling me. neil: thank you very very much. and kaitlin, thank you, honey. i know, you're not mic'd up, a great dad. sorry, whatever food is there is reserved for me, have a wonderful fourth. this will do it for us, happy fourth. for... with golo, i've lost 13 inches in my waist. they're outta here. for... you eat normal food. you're not eating diet food. i'm doing something good for me finally. (announcer) go to golo.com to lose weight and get healthier.
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