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e hundreds of travel sites for thousands of trips. kayak. search one and done. 4th some news organizations limit dependency with claims of racism. this is outnumbered i'm julie banderas here. 20 for seven, leslie marshall, tomi lahren, fox news lesion host and in the center virtual seat for the very first time, rob smith turning point usa and senior contributor in iraq war
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veteran. i will get to all of you in a moment but let's just talk about cori bush kicking off the verbal fireworks over the weekend tweeting when they say that the fourth of july is about freedom, remember that spirit of the freedom they are referring to is for white people. it is stolen land and black people still are not free. congressional candidates backing her up tweeting, "it's much like our entire country has been brainwashed to ignore our history and our worst elements continue today despite our self-congratulatory self dominik reiter great." the media getting in on it as well with mpr taking claim on the declaration of independence. "it says that all men are created equal" but women come and slay people, indigenous people and many others were not held as equal at the time.
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"the washington post" going even further hosting several opinion pieces blasting the holiday with titles like, "the fourth is for complainers" among others. that's on the heels of "new york times" americans laid stomach flag is no symbol oftaly america. what in the heck. i don't even know where to start, carly, but i will ask you. >> i think that the hate america trend is a direct result of the victimization trend. we've got to a place where people get a lot of praise and they talk about why they believe that they are victims. it used to be that people never talked about their feelings and that was that. there's really been in overcorrection and people who are not victims are now saying that they are. why did jussie smollett lied about getting attacked?
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why did elizabeth warren allegedly lie about getting fired from a teaching job because she was pregnant although she is sticking to that story. not so sure about that one. people really crave the attention and democrats have excessively capitalized on that where they say, "okay, you feel like a victim, you hate the country, you should. vote for us because we will give you a lot of things through big government spending to make your life better." as opposed to empowering people and telling them that no, they are not victims, they can do whatever they want through solid families, school choice, and getting a job and working for. >> julie: leslie, the fourth of july's disorder and our freedom and all of those who migrated into live in the men of the free. how's that racist? >> leslie: when we first, july r independence, not everyone in this country was free.
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they did not come here for a better life or of of their own choosing. they came here on ships and change stomach chains. one of the things that is great about our nation and that makes is greater than any other country in the world is that we have the freedom. not to like our anthem, maybe not to like a holiday, maybe no. it doesn't mean that you don't like the country. it means that you have a problem, perhaps, with the holiday and a problem, perhaps, with the country. the celebration what can unitas is not necessarily a flag or song or even a holiday. but our freedom in the fourth of july is certainly that to celebrate it. men and women have died but people speak out against us holiday, quite frankly. >> julie: rob community look at a tweet by a democratic congress will woman, cori bush, when they say that the fourth of july's of american
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freedom and black people are still not free. what message does that send? is in your ears responsible message to claim racism? we are not going to erase our history and there is a stay in there. racism still lives on today. but to say that black people are not free, what does that say to america? >> rob: excess on the lawn will books are losing but the victimization of america. you have a setting democratic congresswoman saying that african-americans are not free. every time around this year like clockwork, it allows people to talk about how they hate america. there is a whip up a lot of stuff that i get from us every single year. this year, i get the whip of a lot of perform activity. you have to look. cori bush has a far left base to stoke. there was a writer that was mentioned.
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these people have opinion columns to promote so this is all about hating america and this is all about something that is in vogue right now. to leslie's point, have to say this. there's a conversation to be had that this country is not always fair for certain people. i understand that. i'm a black man, i get it. but the conversation always led by the left in terms of hatred and in terms of division. it is never really about recognizing where we came from, but how great america is right now and trying to bring people together. that is the issues that i have with a lot of the stuff. >> julie: tomi, a lot of people say that this country is divided. but with comments like this, are you not further dividing the country? houses creating unity? >> tomi: they thrive on division and they talk about a lot of things, but it it is a smoke and mirror show. it's a gaslight. this is a lot performance commits a lot of attention seeking and we've seen this for a year and years now.
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it is hit a fever pitch this year with an anti-americanness. i will say this as well. and going off of what everybody else had. you don't continue to make progress in the country if you don't acknowledge a fact that we've denied progress. you look at the tweets of these folks are saying out that this country still not free, as a flat out lie. this nation is great and they went to be sitting there is a congresswoman tweeting the things that they are tweeting this wasn't a fair and free nation. we will need to go but you don't get there through the constant victimization and this constant effort i american. i find this really ironic that democratic congress people are tweeting about how much they hate the country but then they are the folks that want to make government bigger. if you hate this country, if you hate our democracy, if you hate our values and our traditions, why would you advocate for making government bigger and more intrusive into people's lives? it simply does not make sense. but then again, a lot of things that liberals say and do just a quite make sense. >> julie: carly, you hear about this and that you hear about others in the mainstream
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media that are basically saying to heck with the fourth of july. we are supposed to be covering our independence and america's birthday. >> carly: such a beautiful thing. >> julie: you have people turning on television news and being fed this garbage that, once again, people love to attack president trump because people said that his rhetoric was the divisive. but then under by then, say that we are still divided and there's no improvement to when the declaration of independence was written. we are in a different stage of american history, but there is no credit being given where credit is due. >> carly: you make such a good point. yesterday, when i turned on the tv, i turned on "fox & friends." i heard another guy make a very good point, former navy cell stomach seal. i'm going to pair faiz what, but
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he said that people know that they are oppressed in this country butve never been to afghanistan or to china or to russia or to saudi arabia. they do not know what -- north korea. they do not know what real oppression looks like. if they ever traveled to those countries, it would put things into great perspective and more people to realize how good we really have it in the united states. >> julie: it's called being spoiled. all of these kids remind me of a bunch of spoiled kids. go to north korea and speak up the way that you are about your own country and find out what happens to you. guests, standby. up next, an explosion of deadly violence over the holiday weekend at the country faces a major crime wave and democrats blame everything and everyone but themselves. and now, president biden is taking a hit in the polls.
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another person on a train. this is the result of the police having absolutely no control of the same. "the new york times," "new york daily news" breeding the headline "red light and blood" s in cities, democrats doubling down on blaming republicans for the crime search. >> the president ran on and won the most votes in history for boosting law enforcement after republicans sent deck and trying to cut the cost program. >> julie: cutting the cost program which is what a lot of democrat mayors are starting to instill and now she has coming out and saying that republicans are to blame. i do not understand where that comes from. rob, what would you blame for the rising crime? >> rob: i played for the rising crime -- in fact, mrs. bill de blasio of new york.
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44 says he is in 24 hours. nine shootings in 50 minutes. that is outrageous. this is a directive result of the d from the police rhetoric. when you go into new york city, what a lot of people don't talk about -- i've lived in new york city for the better part of a decade and i moved down to florida because i cannot handle it anymore. but a lot of people are not talking about about how dangerous previous areas a new york work. were talking midtown, chelsea. it is unbelievable and that's rhetoric for police officers that is being stoked among people that live in new york city is a direct result of this. >> julie: i'm a new yorker and i can tell you it did not take the pandemic for people to start disrespecting the police. it took her maker to strip them of the power. remember, people were taking
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buckets and dumping water on the heads of cops. take rudy giuliani. if that had to have bent under his leadership, there is no way these people would've been let free. i don't know if you would agree for the rise of time is a blatant disregard for law enforcement which happens to be stripped of men and women in blue all across the country, not just here new york city, by democratic leadership. >> tomi: is not just defunding police, but it's also demoralizing and demonizing police. law enforcement knows that they have a difficult job and it is not a job, a calling, for so many. they understand the risks involved. what they're not willing to do is go out there and put their lives on the line if they cannot protect and serve their communities to the best of their ability because the rhetoric of the media come up so many administrations and municipalities are against them. if you look there not be protected enough to go out there and do their job and serve the community's. i will tell you, we are talking
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york, chicago. i live here in nashville, tennessee, and i have seen in the last several months. i've seen a change in attitude and a lot of people we interact on a daily basis. it feels more dangerous. it's not just in these big cities but the reason for this is a pop culture, the national attention has gone to blm. there's only people come in so many thugs, felons that feel emboldened and feel like they can do and get away with anything. it can be passed off as justice and they also know that they are dealing with fewer officers on the street. i want folks to know that you may be sitting outside of new york or chicago or l.a., but there is movement and it's going to affect you wherever you are because that is what happens when you do not have law and order as a national treasure. >> julie: leslie, i want your take on jen psaki's remark on blaming republicans on the rising crime. i would like to mention that the rising crime continues and it's not just under this
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administration. there pointing the fingers at republicans. in the cities where crime is highest are run by democrats. our republicans to blame for that? >> leslie: a couple of things here. and thank you, tomi, because you helped make my point. natural is not a liberal city and tennessee is not a liberal state. fort worth miami, two cities where you have a republican mary and republican governors, they have surging governors stomach numbers. excuse me. excuse me. thank you. i new york city and the rest of the country, even though these numbers are terrible and anybody that is hurt or killed is disgusting. the numbers are not what we saw in the 90s there was not a defund the police movement. there's not a d from the police and republican cities. criminologist say that there is a number of factors for guns on the street. seasonal covid. but the disrespect toward the
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police does play into that, quite frankly. president biden has maintained that he is not in favor of defunding the police the president aside from the covert release bill, take that $350 billion for state and local governments and use that to beef up police force. republicans have taken credit for legislation they have not voted to pass and it would help police in their states and cities. >> julie: let's check in with americans on how they feel regarding the president and whether they approve or disapprove of the way he is handling the issue crime in their country. only 38% approve, currently, 38% disapprove. why do you believe that the president is not, according to the american people, handling crime the way you should be? >> carly: what's happening right now is that unsafe areas are getting less safe and to
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safe areas are becoming unsafe areas as well. democrats are no being forced to respond to that because of pull numbers like the ones that you showed. they are responding in a fundamentally unserious way. that "red white and blood" article is about how they're have to be criminals pulling the trigger and blaming republicans. they are the party that is tough on crime whether you are republican or not, it is the truth. it shows that democrats are trying to skirt around this issue. >> julie: panel, standby. if fourth of july celebration accused of being decisive. a song known as the black national anthem. that is next
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>> julie: vanessa williams performance during the pps fourth of july for special getting torn apart on social media over a controversial song choice. williams closing out the show after a song called the black national anthem. critics calling it awoke and divisive inclusion for the broadcast. she dedicated the song to those who came before her. listen. >> as are prepared to sing this next song, i am filled with the spirit of freedom and the perseverance that is required to achieve the most precious rights. i dedicate this to my ancestors, to our new federal holiday juneteenth, and to all who celebrate freedom.
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>> julie: i want to go to you first, rob. there's only one national anthem. and my right or not woken off? >> rob: book. ut that. when i saw the controversy about this, it surprised every voice s been for generations. the song was made in 1900 as a part of president it is a very important part of american history we have to be clear of that. when i saw the outrage about this, it struck me as a little performative from a lot of people in the right. does the same stuff that came with the juneteenth holiday which, by the way, that was a campaign promise from president trump last year. he said he was going to make
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juneteenth a federal holiday so he was on board with that. i have to say to conservatives, if you were going to want to come for the black vote and you want to come to black votes in 2022 and 2024, et cetera, black voters are going to remember this performative outrage to things that are very important parts of african-american history. there is only one national anthem, i understand that, let every voicing is not some cute leftist twitter creation. it is a very part of african-american history we should all recognize that. i'm not going to get torn up about it, but that's i think. >> julie: that's not wrong with. you have every right to your opinion. it was named the black national anthem in his rub point out, it is a not to juneteenth which i'm glad you brought up. it is something that the former president talked about making a formal holiday and this year to become one. leslie, what do you make of people who called out on social media calling awoke and
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divisive? >> leslie: rob, you and i agree 100% on this and you stole my lincoln reference. when you look at past celebrations of the fourth of july whether they had been televised or not back in those days, we have other songs that our nation lobs. america the beautiful, god bless america. they are not the national anthem, but they are considered to be woven in the fabric of our nation. this song is especially in the african-american community. this is not about being woke. president biden sent to the african-american community when he said the election, "you had in my back. i will have yours." juneteenth has just been passed as a holiday and it is the first time and the first fourth of july it is a hollow mic holiday. i think it is very appropriate that the song was included like the two that were mentioned. it does not replace our national anthem at all, they are just other songs that help us lift our voices, if you will,
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and sing about how wonderful our nation it's. i was not surprised by the outrage, but i was disappointed. >> julie: tomi? before i don't think there's anything wrong with the song or the performance. i'm not one of those conservatives that would be outrage. the problems that some conservatives had and the problem i might have in other situations as it seems like there has to be such a delineation now. this is for white america, this is for black america. this is your national anthem and we don't want to be a part of that. we want our own. there's a spirit of divided divisiveness and people want to be segregated into the races and that's not the spirit of america. it's a right if we want to include the song and sing our national anthem. remember, we are all united as americans. singly are some sticky target are notes on what happened to be about race" test and making a little out there can't we want to come together and it seems like their men on the left i just will not allow >> julie: both of you express
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tweeting, "the criminalization and bending equivalent, cannabi. and any flights penalized for cannabis use. this ruling along with denial for swing caps for naturally hair is deeply troubling." we'll start start with the marijuana use. rob, how is racism to blame for her level of pot? >> rob: it is not. i would not call shikari richards smoking marijuana dealing with the death of her mother pot. >> julie: who doesn't smoke pot is what i was trying to say but go on. >> rob: i think that the rule could only be racist if this was specifically applied to shikari richards in and we that it would not be applied to a white
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athlete which is not true. there were other points that aoc was trying to get to but enough about aoc. i just want to say that shikari richards income of the way that she has handled this entire situation is breaking all of our hearts. she is so inspirational in such a great athlete. we all wish that she could compete but look, the rules are the rules unfortunately. there are some things that need to be addressed about how the lipid committee puts forth these rules. but she has handled the entire situation with such grace, dignity, was not angry, did not lash out at people, took complete responsibility about herbert's make her mistake. >> julie: there's a lot of people critical for her testing positive about what message does it sent to young girls who are looking up to her and a lot of female athletes regardless of skin color. regardless, she she slams the perfect people criticizing her r
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her olympic cannabis ban and she says, carly, that i'm not one of them. but she's also not the pursed imperfect athlete to test positive for drug use. but do you think there's too much hype for testing on para vana that we all know is legal in many states? >> carly: i know that her unfortunate ban does not have to do with racism. aoc is not the only one who is making that argument. the headline said that the olympics do not want black woman to win and they cited shikari richards an end other black women who were disqualified because they had testosterone levels that were too high. in 2009, i believe it was, michael phelps was suspended for three months and he lost his kellogg sponsorship because he was photographed with marijuana. there's nothing white athlete, shelly houlihan, was
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disqualified because she tested for steroids and that was a spur readout. she makes a compelling case as to why she was actually the victim here. everybody is under the exact same rules and whether you agree or disagree with shikari's suspension, it doesn't have to do with race. >> julie: tomi, do you agree? >> tomi: you have to follow the rules. and it's not like the roles were not in place and she wasn't aware of the world. she made a mistake, nobody's perfect, and she's excepting consequences. it's very unfortunate, but i think it's important to understand that when you do something that breaks the rules, you have to accept the consequences. going back to aoc, she's worked completely ridiculous and has to turn everything into something that is racist, sexist, or misogynistic. he was not good enough to be in the nfl, racist.
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she's piggybacking off of that. it's unfortunate that everything has to be about race. not everything is about race and if you're obsessed with race, may be where the race has. let's move on and have a bigger and brighter discussion that if we want to talk about cannabis on the rules, that the discussion to be had. this is not racism at play. >> julie: leslie, any athlete knows liberals going into the olympic trials that you cannot be doing drugs whether it marijuana or steroids whether you be white or black. weirdos race -- where does the race card play in here? do you believe that this has to do with race or is it an unfortunate circumstance where you talk about a black athlete who tested positive for marijuana? >> leslie: i do not think it was racist. if she was white, the same punishment would be imposed and the olympics give a few reasons why. michael phelps is a great example. marijuana is not a
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performance-enhancing drug as we know. but the olympics does care about the health of the athlete and they also care about the image of the olympics. here is where i would move away from that. i do think that because of not just the state that she was an aunt that you have more than a dozen states in this country and you have almost ten countries that are in the olympic set of legalized marijuana rather it's for recreational, or medical purposes. maybe they are out of touch with it at but i do not think it's racist. i do think that the swim cap is discriminatory towards people of color and toward african-americans. that doesn't bother me and that does seem racist wear them marijuana does not. >> julie: we're going to move on and we have other stuff to talk about. just ahead, the statue of liberty is a national treasure and a symbol of freedom and
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>> julie: over the past 100 years, the statue of liberty has stood tall as tens of million immigrants arrived in america through nearby ellis island. to them, she was a symbol of inspiration and hope and a reassuring signed that they arrived in the land of their dreams. but according to a "washington post" writer, she is a symbol of america's hypocrisy. the essay is titled, "maybe it's time to admit that the statue of liberty has never quite measured up." she argues that, "the statue is just as meaningless and foreign to others. a sign without significance or worse, a symbol of hypocrisy or unfulfilled promises. if the statue has had every kind of stable meaning over its lifetime, it is not as a symbol
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of liberty but of a symbol of the misuse of liberty as a hollow promise unequally distributed and limited in its application to certain groups." oh, boy. rob, you heard what this author has to say. he says that the statue of liberty could be a symbol of hypocrisy to some despite the fact that the united states has more immigrants in it then any other country. >> rob: yes, the statue of liberty is now canceled. i'm not surprised by this. this is another thing in a long line of the left that is trying to tear down a cancel. symbols in different parts of american history. if you saw what happened during the 2020 riots in the protest that happened last summer, you would see that in a lot of these cities, people are tearing down statues, they were tearing down all of these american symbols. that is what this is all about. it is about the left trying to tear down and they have absolutely no idea what they want to build back up.
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as far as this writer goes, this white liberal writer trying to say that the statue of liberty is irrelevant to people of color, i would like to see him say that to the millions of people all across the globe of all different colors who would die to come to america and see the statue of liberty as a symbol of freedom and a symbol of america. people would literally die to to be here and to use at symbol as a part of their freedom. i would like to see him tell all of those people that the statue of liberty is irrelevant. it is a lie. >> julie: or the 4 million people that visit the statue of liberty every year. i was looking at some twitter comments and i saw one person say, "last month i saw the island to see the statue of liberty. my white family was in the minority. the majority seen from people all of the world." what you think about this
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debate? >> leslie: first of all, i am a liberal, i'm a democrat, and i do not like to say that this is liberals. this is one person who wrote an op-ed. an op-ed is an opinion piece that our first amendment gives us that right. i also have the right to disagree. which i wholeheartedly do. i've been by it on the speed but, update, at the base of it, and when i lived in new york, every time somebody visited that's where they wanted to go and she's beautiful. when she talks about, "give me your tired, hungry. "some people come here illegally and some people come here and seek asylum and seek refugee status. that is one of the reasons because they believe what she's asking. there are some people in our current situation with immigration in this country that i can see might be in a bed of a
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debbie downer when it comes to the statue of liberty. nobody on the left just because one person wrote this is trying to can't suit the statue of liberty. she's going to be here long after we're gone. the right is canceling as well. don't forget that. >> julie: the author came to this conclusion about the statue of liberty because he's on the representation of the statue when he visited a chicago arctic seven at the smithsonian. that's what he says that to some people that statue of liberty is a symbol of hypocrisy. >> tomi: i wish this was just one pontification idiot writer. i wish that leslie was right in that but we know that the left has been angry at statues for some time. we've seen it happen time and time again. sadly, edits.
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statue of liberty is beautiful but it is a statue without a founding document. yes, it's symbol of hope, patriotism, and it's a nation proud symbol. it was a gift from france. as lisa quoted so beautifully, it is not a founding document. i would say to liberals that hate this country and find it so impressive, there are hundreds of thousand people per month pouring across our border to get to this country. people are not fleeing from it, they are fleeing to it. for all of those, especially when it liberals out there who believe this country so awful, the border would tell us otherwise. >> julie: i believe, first of all, i understand that this is an opinion piece and leslie, i get it. they've every right to express any opinion whatsoever. i do think it is shameful for "the washington post" to print something like this on the weekend of us celebrating our independence and celebrating america's birth. i think it's unfortunate as well fo about the fact that somebody is going to
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encourage canceling the statue of liberty. that's not going to happen and obviously, hundreds of thousands of immigrants came to this place looking for a better place. tomi makes an excellent point that the immigrants were coming to this country in droves, they're coming here because they want to live in the land of the free. if you go to the statue of liberty athletically which mentioning and i have been several times, is not all white. the one who goes to this is all color, creed, and represents america. america is not a white america. we are diverse america built on immigration, built on the immigrants that founded this country in the first place. the statue of liberty is a standing beam of example as to what our country was founded on. i think this whole opinion piece is absolute garbage. >> julie: we all have diverse perspective as well but we all agreed that we should not give the statue of liberty back to france. it stays in our country. being a billionaire cannot buy you love even when you have an electric surfboard and a classic song.
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for a 3-month prescription. mr. clean magic erasers ♪ mr. clean magic erasers >> julie: so many ways to celebrate the nation's independent but this may be a first. mark zuckerberg get immersed in social media for a july 4th post the was him writing an electric surfboard holding an american flag it to the tune of john denver's take me home country road. let people can bring dumb at cringing twitter someone saying
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someone told mark zuckerberg to aunt dominic act normal. in this tweet, he may have united the left in the right in america, just not in the way he planned. those tweets are so mean. tomi, what did you mean? i think that this is so patriotic and pretty cool. >> tomi: am going to go a positive on this one for two reasons. i'm glad to see that he loves the american flag. joe, i'm so surprised with how athletic he is. both positives for a favorite hobby wearing ginger. i've nothing bad to say. >> julie: you could also say that this is high level of skill here. >> leslie: and if you have millions of dollars, that is a lot of skill there. this thing cost between $12,000.14000. that's a good way to unite americans rich and poor.
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happy fourth of july for all of you who can't afford e styles. i didn't know what that was. >> julie: i saw a tweet that said, "i'm so poor that i don't know what that says." on that as well allegedly what you think of the viral video? >> leslie: i'm not a millionaire, but i know what it is and they're pretty hard to ride. we serve out here. years of thing. really? are we going to give him a hard time? if you did not have a flag or if he had chosen a rap song, maybe hewould get flak for that. >> carly: that is beautiful america there. what do you think of this video? >> rob: i think it's a great video. coming from the left, i'm just
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happy that he didn't have anybody laid it on fire before he took that video. i'm glad that he respects a flag. look, can i be worth $128 billion and overboard or weak board or whatever with the american flag flying behind me? that's incredible. >> julie: and i will have take me home country road stuck in our head for the rest the day. thank you everyone, no here is "america reports." >> hello, i'm elyse and for sandra smith and i am benjamin in for john roberts. the keystone pipeline to a covert scare impacting the royals. there is a world to get to at "america reports." first, they hacked the gas line and now companies worldwide embracing for the next digital shoe to drop >> critical race theory may

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