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first time, so excited to have come up vivek ramaswamy. welcome all. michael avenatti sentence into a half years in prison. avenatti reportedly wept in court before the ruling and for the first time expressed contrition for his crimes but the judge called his contact outrages and a betrayal of his client. "mr. avenatti have become drunk on the power of his platform or what he the power of his platform to be." he had appeared more than 250 times on major tv networks in a single year. hosts gushed or took over his attacks on then president trump and urged him to run for president. >> you got lucky. we are back with attorney michael avenatti, a main player. >> sitting beside me.

>> michael avenatti. >> i think you are doing a hell of a job. >> to me you are like the holy spirit. you are all places at all times. >> he is a rock star, i think. >> michael avenatti for president in 2020. >> donald trump's worst nightmare, michael avenatti. >> existential threat to the term presidency. please welcome attorney michael avenatti. >> what do democrats value most. if they decide that they value of fighter most people will be foolish to underestimate michael avenatti. >> he is a beast. he is a beast and he keeps popping donald trump and all of his folks to the mall. looking at 2020, the reason i'm taking you seriously is because your presence on cable news. i said you're currently leading the pack among 2020 contenders.

>> kayleigh: oh, boy, where to begin? vivek, 254 tv appearances. the free vacant estimates that just cnn and msnbc alone give him $200 million in free airtime. it's pretty amazing. >> vivek: it is. this is the problem with an ideological media. they have to paint everybody into either being a devil or saint one of course no human being is both of those things. i say that any time the media trying to patent somebody by way of a comparison to the holy spirit. or to adolf hitler for that matter, it should send serious alarm bells. if they make a mistake, they should make a mistake and own it. people are trying to walk it back. on the mistake and move on. >> kayleigh: the holy spirit, my goodness. kennedy, i want to put up a tweet. he has the most incredible thread. he said "there should be an enormous lesson here. the media is incredibly vulnerable to a certain variety

of camera savvy hucksters who tell them what they want to hear. the media missed the mark and boy, do they get it wrong." he goes on to say that avenatti is the apotheosis of a character and spent all too common in the trump era, a thinly veiled fraud who the media push because they say mean things about a republican. if the media hopes to build any trust of the american people they need to stop creating avenattis. >> kennedy: yes. they need to stop fueling the piece of hubris and narcissism. i hope they are watching this today. i hope everyone is watching this disgusting collective farming and this fall from grace. i'm sure emily can point this out but this is not the last rodeo for michael avenatti. he still has got two cases pending against him. he could see much more prison time. this is just federal prison time. he is going to face charges in

other states. but yes, the enemy of my enemy is my friend is no longer a valid motto for journalists. they have to get to work. they have direct people. they have to reintroduce rationality into their sphere and really press people and please rediscover skepticism. >> gillian: or just some vetting. >> kayleigh: they have avenatti and fauci and they tend to make heroes of anyone who is antirepublican. gillian, let's look at these headlines about his presidential ambitions. quite a few from a myriad of different media sources. cnn saying president michael avenatti, never say never. politico. michael avenatti is winning the 2020 democratic primary. "the des moines register." "i'm exploring around the presidency of the united states." from president to prison. >> gillian: it's a spectacular fall from grace and it's not our

place to revel in that, right? it's terrible it's one has to go to prison. you feel for them. well, not everybody. but a lot of people. my point is nobody here is trying to relish in the sky's downfall. the hypocrisy surrounding the entire case. he is still getting off rather light according to attorneys i spoke with yesterday, prosecutors in this case and asked for eight to nine years for him in prison. he got off with just 30 months. two and a half years. the conviction for exploring --extortion. it's a violation of the law. it's a particular and unique violation of the code of ethics he subject to as an attorney. he violated the sacred oath of his office and that's something judges usually take into account, i am told. emily can probably talk about that point. >> kayleigh: coming to you

emily. we have a sound bite i want to play from tucker carlson and then we will come to you for legal analysis. >> stormy daniels is right now working in strip clubs and little towns on stage. people are throwing things at her. you are wearing a $1,000 suit. why are you not paying her? you have profited from stormy daniels. free media on the basis of your relationship with her and she is working and strip clubs. you are exploiting her and you know that. why aren't you paying her some of what you're making? >> sir, this is absurd. >> why are you rich and your client is working in city strip clubs? you are on every cable show. you're running for president. i know you haven't paid your taxes and like so many lawyers you are taking advantage of her nu poses a feminist hero because you are shameless and the other channels let you get away with it. >> kayleigh: exploiter of the woman. also a paraplegic client.

>> emily: that is just the tip of the iceberg. i am so grateful that we remind viewers about the exchange. tucker in that moment had more honor and integrity in his little finger than avenatti will ever have. so do not worry about the consequences. this guy is facing 335 years in federal prison for just this next case that has arisen out of the central district. that indictment is 36 codes. there's four different buckets. he embezzled from clients. he evaded taxes. he was fraudulent with his loan documents, and he also lied to the bankruptcy court. he continues to show us that the msnbc panel was right when they called him a beast but not the kind of beast they were talking about. this guy is a monster. kayleigh, that first client was awarded $4 million after he was rendered paraplegic at their

hands. avenatti stole almost all of it. in addition, he has been called destitute by his new attorney who would pay his rent in the facility he was in. he would give him $1900 a month, stole the rest and let his social security lapse. from another client come he stole almost all the $3 million settlement and used it to finance a jet. he patted his pockets to fund his race car team, his jacked, his coffee company and lavish lifestyle. good on tucker for pointing out he was exploiting clients. hopefully now he will face those consequences, frankly for the rest of his life behind bars. >> kayleigh: this is so slimy. shouldn't this be a lesson to the media? before we lift up avenatti and fauci of being the voice of all truth, maybe we should ask questions. >> vivek: the job of the media is to hold people accountable

and they have abdicated that responsibility. others should step up. i've been the ceo of a company and i can tell you unscrupulous people try to shake down companies for money all the time. if ceos want advice on being able to call out the people who are shaking them down, i've got three words for you: just do it, just like making. as a side note, diversity consultants are playing the same game as michael avenatti, threatening companies for being racist if they are called out. that's the new shakedown. if the media is not going to call them out, ceos and leaders should. >> kayleigh: well said. his day of reckoning has appeared to come. that day was yesterday. the reporting finds at least 25 public schools and districts are pushing a children's book that features a whiteness contract and tells kids their skin color will impact their everyday life. gas lighting on critical race theory and our children's schools next.

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>> concerns are growing among opponents of critical race theory. new reporting shows more than two dozen public schools and school districts are promoting a so-called kids book with controversial lessons on race. anti-critical race theory activist chris rufo reports the book called "not my idea," a book about whiteness, has made its way into curriculums across the country. the book features a whiteness contract with a devilish looking figure and includes lines like these. "skin color makes a difference in how the world sees you and how you see the world." "your skin color affects most ordinary daily experiences and this, "racism is a white person's problem and we are all caught up in it.

kennedy, you had joy reid saying this is something chris rufo just made up. you had terry mcauliffe saying critical race theory is a conspiracy theory made up by president trump. this appears to be very real. >> kennedy: lies the american federation of teachers pushing it so hard. 5,000 members of that organization vowed to continue teaching critical race theory. the deflection has been part of the shell game trying to say no, that's not what critical race theory is. critical race theory is taught at the university level. not taught to k-12 students. it absolutely is. it's destructive and an oversimplification. you shouldn't impose on children how they see themselves. they should be able to develop their own self-image and

self-worth. also i would love a definition for whiteness. what does that even mean. who decides? >> kayleigh: it's a great question. gillian, that's a good point. they are assuring us it's not taught in elementary schools. it is. chris rufo has evidence of the book being 30 school districts in the kids book comes directly from the 1993 seminal text for critical theory. >> gillian: one of the more insidious things about the book is that doesn't start out with the most explosive stuff. it doesn't start out with the devil making a contract with white students. it starts out in a much more -- i'm not defending it but it starts out with much more reasonable presentation of material. one thing that caught my eye, it starts off by saying skin color makes a difference in how the

world sees you and in how you see the world. okay, as a premise, i think some reasonable human beings can agree that there is some truth to that. but over time as you go through the book the ideas become more and more radical. they hook you up front with the idea that this is sort of reasonable presentation of ideas to young students and then we end up at a place where as you said, kayleigh, there is a devil with a contract finding white students and getting them to sign off on imaginary terms, including stolen land, stolen riches, special favors. that is just whack-a-doodle. >> kayleigh: a reporter took issue, one of the alliance was "violent whites premise is embedded in all of our systems. and vivek, the atlantic reporter challenged the author of the

book, he said "it's a contestable claim and presenting it as a fact to children too young to evaluate a matter of still complex seems dogmatic to me. violent whites premise he embedded in today's u.s. postal service? brooklyn public library? it goes on. good for him for challenging her. >> vivek: it shouldn't be and issue for the left or the right, it should be for all americans. if you are a parent in america and you want to do your civic duty, now is your time. your school board meetings, stand up to the toxic ideology that risks dividing our children and breaking the entire next generation as we know it. i do think one thing opponents of critical race theory night out myself in group should do better in the future is not talk about what we don't want to see our kids being topic to a better job of what we replace it with. have a conversation about civic education.

let's talk about reviving common american values and the real american history that we teach our children. that's going to be even more successful as an approach than just combating critical race theory. as a parent, i took my baby to a bookstore to buy a book in the first book that we see is the antiracist baby. now it's in prekindergarten and it's a trend that's dangerous. >> kayleigh: still crazy. we are seeing a grassroots movement, black americans, white americans, people of all skin color saying it's an insidious ideology and we are going to stand against it. it's been five if you allow me to cede my time to vivek.

with the research and experience of your book, whether you feel that that group that we have talked about and that kaylee addressed, those rising up against crt, do you feel parents feel emboldened, freedom to do so or do you feel like behind close doors that's where people say yes i'm against it but they are afraid of cancel culture, afraid of repercussions socially perhaps or professionally if they do so, i would like to hear vivek's thoughts on that. >> vivek: you hit the nail on the head, it's a culture of fear permeating every institution in our country. my book talks more about corporate america. the fear of getting fired, denied promotions but it's even worse in schools where it's the fear that your kid may be ostracized in class, your kid make it a bad grade if they fail. the culture of fear is causing parents to band together and if you have doubts about it, look at the fact that they are doing it anonymously. they are making complaints in elite private schools in new york city, parents are too afraid to step up and identified themselves so it's a culture of fear that's the threat. >> kayleigh: you are exactly right and one of the parents who did speak up in manhattan, and other "i want to buy this man a beer for having the courage to speak up." we are seeing people speak up across the country.

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>> gillian: miami-dade county's mary is speaking to reporters on the ground in surfside, florida. she just announced that the search and recovery mission has found 14 more victims. the total is now 78 people whose remains have been recovered from the site of the condo collapse. we will bring you any new developments as they come out of this press conference. >> emily: five police officers are suing the city of palo alto, california, over a black lives matter mural. it was painted last june after the killing of george floyd. their mural was displayed right. the palo alto police department

sits on the opposite side of the building. the lawsuit argues that that blm mural constituted discrimination, harassment, and retaliation. if an officers point out that they merely included the logo of the new black panthers which the southern poverty law center identifies as a hate group that has encouraged violence against whites, jews, and police. one of the images was of joanne, she was convicted as in the 1973 execution-style killing of new jersey state trooper warner forrester. gillian. the officers are alleging this is discriminatory and workplace harassment and that it violates the fair employment and housing act but importantly they also say that it essentially sanctifies an atrocity to celebrate a fugitive, convicted cop killer right in front of city hall.

they say every time they enter the front doors that they have to walk across it. >> gillian: as i understand it, this is a big part of a case that the officers are bringing against the city, the precise location of the mural. it's the factors that you broke down. the average american might not be able to appreciate if they were just to walk by the mural in the street, recognizing all the things that are sort of connoted within it. but the fact that they have to look at this while they are going in and out of work every day, showing up for patrols, that they find particularly egregious. what i don't know and i would defer to you, whether that is the linchpin of their case. the first amendment protection of freedom of speech in cases like that seems to span far and wide. i don't know what their current cheese i don't know what their chances

are. it's the location of the mural that lends credence to the claims. >> emily: the city spokesperson has said in no way does this mural take away from their value that we have in our police officers who serve our community every day. to the average resident in the city, what are you supposed to think? what other message does it send? >> vivek: the mural is repulsive, abhorrent, downright hateful. but i do want to say the right answer to hateful speech isn't to take it down. it isn't even less speech. it's more speech. i usually say that in response to the woke left that wants to take down speech they find offensive that they claim is violent, that they claim is hurtful. that principle and fairness has to apply evenly in all directions and i think there's something to be said. we should be saying more in the public sphere, defending our police officers, talking about the value that they add but i don't think the right answer is to take down any form of speech

and the other direction. that's the real problem. we only allow free speech publicly and culturally at one end of the political spectrum. you want to talk about blm? they can have a voice but let's have an honest dialogue about blm's bond violence and what blm has done to this country and wrecking our cities across the nation. >> gillian: censorship is not the answer. >> gillian: kennedy, vivek makes a great point. the mural is no longer there, in full disclosure. the lawsuit exists. his point about more speech and to our prior conversation about fear, look at new orleans where the city program that paired police officer with kids at the zoo, support police day and get to know their community, it was canceled based on the anti-police rhetoric and buying into the social stigma but fear that vivek referenced earlier.

even the opposite speech is now being canceled. there is no room now anymore for reviving murals and messages like this. for rebutting murals and messages. >> kennedy: if i were a cop, i would apply with a different department. in another part of northern california. it's ridiculous. why would you want to work somewhere where people hate you? maybe they don't pair may be the majority of their love cops but this is what they need to do if they want to counter it. you need a good mural everyone is going to be talking about so find a couple good artists in the department, design a mural of sexy cops. people would come far and wide to see it. that's what they would be talking about and that's what you need. >> gillian: the new mural

could go into zuckerville. >> emily: is longest zuckerberg himself is not in that narrow. the seattle police officer told me i'm going to a community where i wanted. you are wanted. to kennedy's point, the murals depict the vocal minority but the vast majority of people whose voices aren't being heard are screaming to the cops "we support you and we do want you here." >> kayleigh: according to the police office, they are saying that the city sanctioned it and paid for it. that's my problem. the city should never sanction hateful speech like this. the person glamorized in pop songs. she killed a police officer. she killed a police officer in the city shooting no way sanction an individual icon >> emily: how a group of democratic donors and celebrities are pressuring

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that challenge as a defining strength of your candidacy. vivek, the celebrities have spoken. potentially another critical pipeline will be shut down which will only hurt lower income earners. how bad is this? >> vivek: it's pretty bad. i hope president biden is not taking his energy policy advice from celebrities. i don't want to live in a country where our energy policy or any policies set by hollywood elites just because they made campaign contributions to joe biden. if they care about climate change, fine, stand up to their overlords in china. that's not where they want to push the agenda. they want to push it here. they are not really the ones who bear the brunt of the rising gas prices we face in this country. let's have a debate about energy policy. there is reasonable debate to be had. but what annoys me more is the outsized role the campaign could

readers and especially unknowledgeable hollywood elites are playing and exerting influence on a wide range of public policies. >> kennedy: obviously want people to have as much choice as possible. choice and competition brings prices down. people are being hit really hard by high gas prices. that's one of the first areas of inflation that hits people the most personally. how different is president biden's energy policy from president trump? >> kayleigh: very different. it's sad to say i believe he is taking his energy policy directly from katy perry and orlando bloom. cancel the keystone pipeline. take away thousands of jobs but green light northern stream to and allow russia to build a pipeline, a great idea joe bide. president trump made us energy independent. there's a huge contrast and i think of the rich hollywood elite taking jobs from everyday

americans. >> kennedy: we all want energy independence, clean energy and we will get there but we're not going to get there if the government is shutting off its biggest -- hurting so many americans not to mention the colonial pipeline. >> gillian: i don't think this campaign is going to have much influence on the biden administration are ordinary americans. i'm not terribly worried about the impact. i would say it seems like a terrible waste of resources. they are preaching to completely the wrong choir, the celebrities here. it's like trying to impress upon president biden that we really need to withdraw u.s. troops from afghanistan. the things that they are advocating for already deeply in the works. this is a president whose energy policy centerpieces going green, going clean, shutting down pipelines all across the

country. they don't need to tell him or encourage them to do this. i don't really understand the point. >> kennedy: he knows everything, emily. >> gillian: and very stable. >> kennedy: all these people fly on private jets and they have massive homes that are not powered by solar powered unicorns. >> emily: this is a reflection of the bloated relationship and no ionization between the democrat party in hollywood that they do think their voice means more, matters more, and is heard more than ordinary americans. that's why the white house has the internet celebrity day in the property brothers are being interviewed. ordinary americans are saying we can hear from community leaders. can we hear from people whose opinions are based on experience rather than just assumptions.

these guys have a femoral, myopic view. treats, litter and garbage and signs tossed into a dumpster. this letter is a another example. they want to sweep in and make their voice heard and sweep out but that's not really the impact that will matter. dialogue with other countries who have absolutely atrocious records on climate and pollution more than we do? do they understand the impact on the supply chain? these things are a little too deep for that group. it's a continued hypocrisy and annoyance that we are continuing to be fed the notion that they are more important than we are. >> kennedy: hallelujah. preach it, girl.

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>> kayleigh: we are awaiting remarks from president joe biden, expected to sign off on an executive order promoting competition in the american economy. will bring it to you when it begins. white house walking back comments from secretary becerra that it's absolutely the government's business to know if americans have received their vaccination. charlie hurt and marie harf will debate. what is the future of the republican party? lawrence jones live from cpac with a preview. ari fleischer, dr. nicole saphier, james freeman all here. it's friday. join us on "america reports" top of the hour.

>> emily: space tourism looking to dig a big step on sunday when sir richard branson and crew are set to blast off into space on his virgin galactic spacecraft. it's the first of a final run of three flights before branson's company begins flying 600 future astronaut ticket holders starting next year. if all systems are go on sunday, the 70-year-old will beat his millionaire arrival jeff bezos to space by nine days. vivek, in the battle of the billionaire space people, are you team branson or team bezos. a murraya i could care less. it's great that jeff bezos wants to go to space. the only shame as he wants to come back. i'm a big span of -- fan of space research.

it's a vanity project. at least of billionaires want to compete, at least it's better than who can buy up the most congressman or exert the most influence in washington, d.c., which is what they'd be doing in the meantime. it's the second worst. go up there and stay there. >> emily: that's a good point and besides being the "along came polly" nightmare, the insurance. citizen interest in not just the vanity fights but also in the benefits of space exploration. we talked about it. >> kennedy: tab, tempur-pedic mattresses, tang all born out of the space program. this is private. it's a lot less expensive than

nasa building the same type of craft. we could benefit from technology. we could have flying cars, and i love that richard branson is trolling jeff bezos. like president trump announcing he was going to the border before vice president harris. if branson gets up there first it's going to drive jeff bezos crazy but we may be the ones who benefit. >> emily: on sunday, are you going to be watching this or are you going to watch italy beat england? i said it. >> gillian: candidly i hope to be asleep for most of the day on sunday. but i will say i think this entire private-sector endeavor is very exciting. i think there is huge upside potentially. for americans for the whole world. i applaud the fact that these billionaires are doing it. vivek said.

keeping the billionaires off the street. the americans who are excited that they are going to get to actually fly into space. i don't psychologically understand where they're coming from. i wouldn't do it myself if you paid me $10 million to do it. it's exciting there are people out there who want to. >> gillian: kayleigh, take us home. >> kayleigh: i am glad that branson beat bezos because bezos needs to stay here on earth and check up on his paper, "the washington post." little more than a propaganda arm of the democrat party. >> emily: well said. coming up, singing in the white house press briefing room. that room has a completely different vibe at this time then my friend kayleigh had when she was behind the podium. how "outnumbered" photo bombed this moment.

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>> ♪♪ happy birthday to you ♪ ♪ happy birthday to you ♪ ♪ happy birthday ♪ ♪ happy birthday to you ♪♪ >> kayleigh: it looks like our crew got in on the birthday action yesterday in the white house briefing room. press secretary jen psaki led the press corps and singing happy birthday to one of the reporters. the camera pulled back and boom, there was the virtual couch. emily, my friend, an "outnumbered" photobomb. >> emily: i loved it. a friend sent me that and i felt very important for a moment. >> kayleigh: it was great. vivek, steve hollander reuters, one of the best reporters in the press corps, generally awesome human being.

if anyone deserves it, it's him but my, how the temple has changed. if only they can ask hard-hitting questions as well as they could sing. >> vivek: that was not the white house press corps that we saw couple years ago. the top job of the press is to hold the government accountable. that's why we have a free and independent press and i am a fan of being civil and friendly and the way that we carry out her duties but we can apply that if her critically. we can't do it when everyone is at a birthday party. the change relative to two years ago is remarkable. we need to watch for a combination of the press and government. >> kayleigh: well said, it's the contrast. kennedy, would you rather watch the press corps act about the biden dog, cat, air force one color scheme or would you watch them sing? >> kennedy: i would rather chew off my own hand then to hear jen psaki sing. >> kayleigh: i wonder when peter's birthday is.

i'll find out and let you know. gillian, you are about to go on maternity leave. today is your last day. you are about to be outnumbered in your own household. >> gillian: i'm having a baby girl. my household will be two meals, my husband and my dog. three females. myself, my daughter, and our female dog. i won't be outnumbered. my husband will be outnumbered which will be enjoyable for me. >> emily: congratulations to you. >> kayleigh: it is the biggest joy of life. i will tell you i was not prepared for the 2:00 a.m. feed. i didn't realize i had to wake up at 2:00 a.m. be prepared, rest well. good advice, sleep all day sunday like you had planned. kennedy, any motherly advice? >> kennedy: can i give you a tiny piece of advice? when my oldest daughter was

born, my mom filled our house with pink roses and now every year on her birthday, i give her pink roses. it connects me to the incredible time when we brought her home from the hospital. i love it. >> gillian: that's awesome and they smell really good. i'm going to ask my husband to do that. >> kayleigh: so sweet, such a great memory. i will never forget the first time i held my little girl. it's a surreal experience. i didn't know human beings were capable of love like that but it's a whole new type of love when you see that baby girl for the first time. i assume you have seen her on the ultrasound. >> gillian: many times. she's very cute but she always has her hands in front of her face. we don't know what she looks like which is fine. it's going to be a surprise. we are super excited. terrified but super excited. thank you for all of your advice and i will be texting you at 2:00 in the morning as you so kindly offered. >> any time. >> emily: you will be the best mom ever. >> gillian: i will miss you

guys but i'll be back soon. >> kayleigh: we will miss you. you've got to bring your little baby to the studio. cannot wait to meet her. >> vivek: i hear you on the 2:00 a.m. feed. >> kayleigh: they are brutal but it's an act of love. thanks for being here. have a great >> all our best to gillian. fox news alert, new guidelines from the cdc on schools and covid and who does and does not have to wear a mask. the rules relaxed just a bit, but not for everyone. dr. nicole sapphire coming up on that. >> also on deck today, we have larns jones and ari fleischer on the and marie huff. >> we begin with something potentially using federal covid funds for controversial programs like teaching critical race theory in our schools.