>> live pictures from the southern border where the flow of migrants haven't slowed down while officials struggle to keep up. you're watching our drone team over la hoya, texas, it's ground zero in the rio grande valley and migrants are surging across the border. 2000 every single day. in fact in the last 24 hours, there were 2,519. that's an increase of 500 -- 573% from last year the administration refusing to call

it a crisis four months into the historic numbers. we are awaiting a news conference from texas governor abbott from the texas capital. i'm griff jenkins. jacqui: i'm jacqui heinrich. and jonathan serrie is live with more for us. what are you seeing today? >> within the past 90 minutes we saw border patrol agents make several arrests all of it captured on video from our fox flight team. take a look at dramatic drone video from the sky. you can see six young men wearing black running across the brush and two ends up staying back and hiding in the bushes. four continue running. this immediately raises the suspicions of border patrol area who run into the brush, pursue the men and apprehend them. they were taken to a border patrol van separate from the migrant families that you often

see coming over. these families usually turn themselves in voluntarily and given water and transported on buses. and dinners from these young men trying to evade capture. taking a look at the live drone video. it's walkable for migrants wanting to get in. the border wall initiated by president trump never completed and immediately stopped when president biden took office. jacqui: what are state officials doing about this? >> as you mentioned governor greg abbott about to hold a news conference this afternoon. what he's doing is meeting with many of the sheriffs in the communities along the u.s.-mexico border here in texas. they're trying to brain storm ideas and he's also asking for help from other governors. many republican governors already mobilizing their national guard and law enforcement resources to send

down to the u.s.-mexico border to assist the folks here in texas. jacqui: and what does that brain storming look like? does it look like they'll get the cooperation that they need to assist or looking for some other level of maybe federal help? >> yeah, i think they're going to be looking at both. obviously, the sheriffs of these border communities, this is nothing new to them. they have always been looking for solutions, so, any meeting of the minds is going to be welcomed to them, as far as the federal government, they're obviously going to lobby for whatever resources they can get. whether they get it is yet to be scene. >> thank you so much. >> chris wallace talked exclusively with governor greg abbott on fox news sunday. they'll discuss the situation at the border. check your local listings for time and channel and howie kurtz takes a look at former president trump's lawsuit against the social media

giants. that's tomorrow 11 a.m. eastern on media buzz. griff: a fox news alert, two terminals at the fort lauderdale hollywood airport is calling a security investigation. what you're looking at. outside of one of the terminals. they've evacuated parts of two terminals due to that investigation. we're continue to follow this breaking news and bringing you more information as we get it. jacqui: conservatives are gathering in dallas for this year's second cpac convention. a number of high profile speakers, including tomorrow's headliner, former president trump. casey stegall is live at the convenes. >> good to see you. about 4,000 people are expect today trickle through here over the next couple of days, and you mentioned it officially got

underway yesterday and ends tomorrow evening. the theme here is america uncanceled and the whole agenda is packed with events, work shops, speakers and booths that sort of cater around that message, an event this morning was titled, engaging in a world where the left has made everything political. the governors of oklahoma and tennessee are going to speak and senator marsha blackburn. the headliner comes tomorrow to close cpac out, former president donald trump will be here. his son, don, jr. kicked things off yesterday to a big crowd here in dallas. >> they can't cancel all of us. now with one, two, three people are the guys that have the guts to run out there and take the

arrows? yeah, they can try to cancel them, but if we get together and we're all in this, that game is over, folks. >> now, this is the first time there have been two conventions in a single year. organizers chose texas as they experiment with moving it as it is typically held near or around d.c. remember, the main convention in february was held in florida after covid concerns caused a change of venue. jacqui: casey stegall, thank you so much for that report. griff. griff: as the u.s. moves closer to completing its withdrawal in afghanistan, the taliban is claiming it has recaptured 85% of the country's territory. senior foreign affairs correspondent greg palkot is live from kabul, afghanistan. greg, good evening. what's the latest on the fight out there? >> griff, yeah, the taliban offensive continues. there are some reports today new since the last couple of days, of some kind of a fight

back from the afghan troops, but yes, that 85% control claim was made by the taliban yesterday. most experts think that's not expect, but they hold about a third of this country and about another third is being contested. so that's a lot of ground, griff. overall, the afghan military's basically been rolling over in the last couple of weeks. there are these unconfirmed reports of a bit of a fight back in the western part of the country. there were supposed air strikes in the south. there r were clashes. the government is claiming there were taliban deaths, but really in the last couple of weeks, it's been a losing game for the government here in kabul. >> greg, you're out in kabul, speaking with some people who seem to be fairly desperate. >> well, yeah. and in the last two days, since we've been here, whenever we've gone out and talked to people, there is real fear of what the taliban could bring if it takes over the entire country. today we saw a few people and

spoke with a few people who were actually acting on those fears. take a look. >> you're looking at people who are struggling to get out of afghanistan. but the taliban is making its move all across the country. they are worried about what's going to happen in this country so they are right here and they're trying to get their passports. >> and here it is everyday bomb blast and everything is bombarding. >> everything taliban? >> everywhere. >> do people want to get out of afghanistan now? >> yeah. >> why? >> the situation right now, it's hard to live here. >> it is hard to live here, the gentleman said. we also heard, griff, complaints about the u.s. troop pullout, particularly about the manner of it, of the pullout, it was pretty quick. we do have to remind everybody though, it's been 20 years basically since the u.s. military has been here and there is so much lost, life, and so much money spent and it's ironic that these opinions

are now expressed, griff. griff: it's a great point you bring up. i remember, greg, you were over there reporting 20 years ago, we have a clip from that, listen to it and then i want your reaction on the other side. >> afghanistan's taliban government has been overwhelmed by the sheer us numbers of the humanitarian crisis. the international community force today step in and feed tens of thousands of hungry adults and children, and the most by far, the united states of america. griff: and how much are the neighboring countries there, iran, russia, pakistan, need to be if indeed of taliban does take over? >> yeah, it's a big concern. that report was, i think june of 2000, before 9/11, that's when the taliban ran this place and a lot of people didn't like it, as you see, a lot of people

are worried about that coming back. yes, other countries, as the u.s. steps away, are trying to step into the vacuum, but frankly, russia had a bad history here, this is their own vietnam, the clashes here, iran had had trouble with the taliban, turkey to some degree. the country that's stepping up, according to many experts, griff, you can probably guess it, china. it sees opportunities, it sees possibilities to engage with the taliban, but they could run into trouble, too. griff: greg one last question, we saw reports in the past 24 hours that fighting is getting intense in kenned kandahar. and many may not know, but kandahar is where the taliban started. what are you hearing there? >> we have heard some reports of clashes down there. we've also heard reports about the taliban making more moves down there. that's the taliban's heartland.

kandahar, hellman province. what we've been surprised at the last couple of days is the gains they've been making in the northern part of the country. that's what's most alarming. they are taking over district after district and that's what's got a lot of people worried griff. griff: greg palkot, live coverage. stay safe, my friend. >> thank you. i'm sorry, i wanted to promo, bill richardson, we're going to continue our conversation about that, bill richardson in the '90s actually met with the taliban. jacqui: thank you. and florida officials say 86 people are now confirmed dead as the search for the missing in that condo collapse moves forward. charles watson joins us from the scene with the latest. hey, charles. >> good afternoon, rescue crews

briefly had to stop their recovery mission because of the lightning. it's raining right now. but we're told they're sifting through the rubble once again. overnight more bodies were pulled from under the heavy concrete and remains of champlain tower south the death toll at 86. 43 people are potentially unaccounted for as first responders desperately try to provide closures to the families of the missing. more than 10 million pounds of debris have been moved from the collapse sites and it's preserved as evidence including this mangled car towed away from the site on a flatbed this morning. and at this rate, crews will be able to clear out a large portion of the site much quicker than expected. >> it's astounding the pace at way they're working and getting the rubble out there. given the current pace it's likely the site will be cleared a lot sooner than expected at

least pertaining to the area where remaining building was demolished. >> and as ultimate agencies investigate what caused champlain tower south to collapse, questions remain about how the town of surfside handled a 2018 report with regard to the building. and from the board meeting, they told that it was safe, but construction experts interviewed by the maple heard herald, he had a duty to contact them to see if the condo was at risk. the miami attorney general says based on findings, they'll make recommendations, so incidents like what happened at champlain towers south never happen again not only in south florida, but across the country. >> thank you so much.

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>> richard branson getting ready to take a ride much like

the one you see here on his virgin galactic space plane tomorrow. jeff paul is live in new mexico ahead of the big event. and as far as we know jeff does not have a seat on that flight. hey, jeff. >> i definitely do not, but there is a lot of excitement here in this part of new mexico knowing that we're mere hours away from this potential virgin galactic launch. if all conditions hold up it will be the first private company to launch its founder and owner into space, that man being billionaire richard branson who along with three employees and two pilots will launch potentially from space port america, from the town of truth or consequences, new mexico. it will be a passenger rocket plane, the twin fuselage jet will carry unity to 50,000 feet and released and blast into into the earth's atmosphere. they're hoping to get to 50,000 above the desert.

it will last 90 minutes, and branson, just shy of 71, isn't apprehensive at all. calling it the dream of a lifetime. >> building our own space line and a spaceship we could go to space on, yeah, it's taken a while, but hopefully the dream will come drew. >> nine days after richard branson blasts off another billionaire, jeff bezos is set to take off from west texas. branson's flight will be longer, bezos' blue origin will be 62,000, and the carman line that they consider to be space. and branson firing back, 50 miles is the line that f.a.a. and nasa and the u.s. military recognizes. either way it's a huge step for

space travel and if you're wondering, griff, why i'm not going to be on one of the flights anytime soon, 600 tickets have been booked pat a cost of $250,000 per seat. griff: jeff, only quick follow-up question, if i had the 250k to spare, would you go? >> 100%, no question, absolutely. griff: i totally agree with you. >> blast me off. griff: and i'm going right with you. jeff paul in new mexico. thank you for that report. jacqui. jacqui: all right, joining us now for more on this, billionaire space race is tom jones, a veteran nasa astronaut and planetary scientist and author of "sky walking" an astronaut's memory and ask the astronaut. tom jones, thank you for being with usments it's a pleasure, jacqui and an exciting weekend. jacqui: so you've obviously gone to space. what are the physical challenges of entering space. what would hopeful space

tourists need to think about in conditioning tests and the differences between what a paid passenger would have to do versus a professional like yourself? >> i think for this ride, anybody whose is in general good shape. will be fine. more or less a rollercoaster experience. the stresses are getting into space are real. three or four times your earth's gravity through the thrust of the ship. and spacelessness, there are medications for that and i think that branson and crew mates will enjoy the trip. when will space travel be more affordable for the average joe. and bezos versus branson and the competition could unfold between billionaires to carry fee paying passengers to the edge of space. what does it mean for people

watching and thinking i want to do this, but it's kind of out of reach right now financially? >> sure, it's out of reach now. i think only the wealthiest will go on the first flights. and the competition, blue origin and other people will take people to orbit like boeing, and spacex. i think within 20 years you'll see this equivalent to a vacation to antarctica, for example. jacqui: we think about the challenges of getting into space and what about getting back on the ground. can you talk about how the launch will go in the beginning and how it ends? >> tomorrow, if branson takes off, it's going to be a space plane ride. so their ship unity will rocket to the edge of the atmosphere up into the environs of outer space, if you will. as they fall back into the

atmosphere they'll experience five minutes of weightlessness and a badminton shuttlecoach approach and then eventually have their feathers back and then glide to the runway like a cadillac ride. and blue origin, they will be a straight rocket ride. fall through space and weightlessness for five minutes and plummet back to earth and a parachute will bring them back safely. more like what we used 60 years ago. jacqui: branson is claiming that one day it could be more like an orbiter. >> the space plane approach is great for the boundary of space tomorrow we hope. but to scale that up to get to orbital flight you need a lot more fuel, a lot more energy to

be put into the spaceship for orbital speed. instead of 2,000 miles per hour, it's going to need 17,500, so a lot more fuel and the plane would need a much more robust heat shield. it's hard to imagine the carrier airplane that branson is using tomorrow scaling up to the huge aircraft necessary to make that approach work. jeff bezos blue origin with a straight rocket approach, you build a bigger rocket for the speeds, more straight forward. jacqui: what are you looking for tomorrow, the things i watch for just like a layman, but you're an astronaut. what are the things that you're looking at and to measure whether this is a success or what it means for the future of space travel? >> well, we'll be wanting to watch closely the ascent, the powered flight of the rocket, five minutes of thrust to get them coasting up to 50 miles per hour, the boundaries i

crossed when i became an astronaut for nasa. watching for the power to make sure it's going smoothly. once it's cut off physics like floating up like a cannon ball and coming back into the atmosphere and watching from remote cameras on the ship. beautiful views of earth above and the sky, and the crew floating inside for the five minutes they get to unstrap and that will be exhilarating and take vicarious pleasure in the fun they're having. jacqui: that's great. tom jones, thank you for being with us. >> good luck for tomorrow. jacqui: griff. griff: jacqui, president biden says there will be consequences to russia for the ransomware attacks. will it be enough to stop thousands of american targets? that's next. ur mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. whoo hoo! ensure, with 27 vitamins and minerals, now introducing

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>> president biden targeting big tech with an executive

order cracking down on anti-competitive practices. mark meredith has this live from wilmington, delaware. >> good afternoon, president biden says a handful of companies are dominating and making it hard for others to compete. he wants to ensure there's a level playing field. on friday, they signed into law this sweeping executive order that basically directs the federal government to get more aggressive in enforcing anti-trust laws and he also says too many workers are held to noncompete clauses. basically unfair, unemployment contracts, that basically is forcing people not to seek better jobs. the president's now vowing to end or limit noncompetes in many sectors. >> i didn't know five years ago. the incredible number of noncompete clauses for ordinary people who it's done for one reason, to keep wages low

period. >> the u.s. chamber not thrilled with this action, and says the chamber is a strong advocates for market-based competition not a government-planned economy. this executive order smacks of a government knows best approach to managing the economy. meantime, president biden is calling on russia's president to get more aggressive for hackers in the cyber attacks. and the focus of the call that the president had with putin. in a statement the white house says president biden reiterated that the u.s. will take any necessary action to defend its people and critical infrastructure in the face of this continuing challenge and this is an issue, of course, that impacts more of the united states. next week, the president is having the german chancellor at the white house and told that cyber security is going to be an issue that likely comes up. griff: mark meredith live for us in wilmington. jacqui.

jacqui: joining us is security advisor and former state security advisor morgan wright. thanks for being with us. >> you bet, jacqui. jacqui: what did you think the response would be from president biden. yesterday he was asked if he thought attacking the servers used in the atta being was appropriate, and seemed to indicate yes, we'll see some won't be as visible. what do you think that the white house needs to do to effectively address this rise in ransomware attacks? >> you know, jacqui, this is a two-part problem. one is offense and one is defense. we have spent so much time on offense we've neglected our defense. the old football saying is defense doesn't win you games, but loses games. we have to increase our focus on improving our i.t. infrastructure and modernize a lot of our technology and we've got to get to the point where the solutions we're using cause such a big economic price to the attackers, that it's not

feasible for them to do that. now, on the other side of this, it's more than technical, we've got to improve the targeting by our cia and intelligence servicers and nobody operates in russia without the implicit approval of the russian federation and we know who these folks are. i was in law enforcement and i trained on fbi investigations. they know who the folks are, do they have the will to take out criminal organizations in another country. even though it's digitally. we have to do this on multiple fronts not just one. jacqui: i want to touch on something you said. i was reading about the challenges in disrupting these networks. >> right. jacqui: there was some reporting that it would be hard to do that because a lot of these hackers are using stolen ip addresses and proportionate response to be sort of interwoven with legal networks here in the u.s. and hard to do something effective in that way. can you describe that and what you think would get around it?

>> yeah, you know, these guys are-- you know, quite frankly, jacqui, a lot of these folks have backgrounds in intelligence services from hostile nations like russia, north korea and one of the reasons that the pipeline was able to claw back some of that, the gang had poor trade craft and operational security. it's not ease toy do, but we know that there's a lot of this kind of stuff going on. but the best thing to do we cannot control whether or not they operate or not. i will tell you one underlying thing that's not addressed here, how do the hackers get paid? they get paid through cryptocurrency, through bitcoin, there's a day of reckoning with the ability to use anonymous money in order to avoid this type of tracking by law enforcement. if you want to put a dent in ransomware take away their ability to monetize it, that's a political, a diplomatic issue, but from a technical standpoint we've got to keep

going after these guys and use our intelligence service toss find out where they are. you make a few arrests and able to get some criminals back, we can start getting their attention. jacqui: i want to play for you what former secretary of state mike pompeo said and get your reaction. >> we take this seriously, the bad cries, north koreaens or russians attacked us, we had begun to establish a model for deterrence. and don'tware that president biden is going to live up to the promises he made in geneva. jacqui: do you agree with that? and as part of your answer why also this level of attack is being considered, really, very sophisticated? >> yeah, i try and stay out of the politics, i'm a one and zero guy not r and d. you have to look at it and say is there an increase in the severity of the attacks?

all the frame works and policies aren't working. what it boils down 0 to, there are ways to deter it. find a way to demon advertise their ability to make money off this and start sanctions and one thing you can do to get russia or china's attention, we don't have to go after critical infrastructure, but go after vital military and targets, the bush doctrine if you're complicit and allow people to operate in your country you're part of the problem not the solution. a we'll do things to degrade your ability to operate. you have to stay away from critical infrastructure, we're the good guys, and we don't do that. we can hit military operations and communications with the government and every time you allow this to go on, we're going to extract a price from you. it's not easy, it's going to take new technology and investments in ai and ml to make it happen. jacqui: morgan wright thanks for that. great to have you. >> you bet, jacqui.

griff: as the taliban advances against the afghan government. we'll talk to the former ambassador to the u.n., bill richardson who met with the taliban decades ago before 9/11 and the war began. >> former trump takes on big tech with a lawsuit. and laying out his case for being censored. don't miss it.

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>> this is a fox news alert. officials from the fort lauderdale hollywood airport saying earlier security incident has been cleared. they suggest passengers check in with their airlines to get updated flight information, but that breaking news situation seems to have cleared for now, with more information on what exactly the incident was, but the security incident has been

cleared. >> american troops now leaving afghanistan while concerns grow over the taliban gaining control over a key afghan border crossing with iran. for more on the withdrawal, we'll bring in former new mexico governor bill richardson and served as the u.s. ambassador to the u.n. and our viewers may not know in 1998, he met with the taliban. governor, thank you for taking time on a saturday. if you will, for our viewers, explain your meeting some 20 years ago, more than 20 years ago with the taliban and has anything changed with them in the last two decades? >> well, the meeting was arranged. i was u.n. ambassador so i was the first cabinet member to meet with the taliban. the pakistan government helped us arrange that meeting. we negotiated with the taliban for a full day. we got, as you can see, a brief cease-fire with the northern alliance. we also tried to have them turn

over osama bin laden, they didn't do that. they're fierce fighters, tough negotiators. they didn't keep their word. we did have a brief cease-fire, but you know, griff, they're very tough. they're war-like in everything they do and i think the president's decision is the correct one because the outcome is uncertain. a lot of americans lost their lives, came back without limbs, but we've given the afghan security forces, we've trained 300,000 of them. we've given them advance weaponry. now it's up to them. it's a matter of political will, a matter of a military fight against 75,000 taliban that are very, very strong

fighters. >> governor, the taliban held their press conference in moscow yesterday saying they've taken back 85% of the country. our own greg palkot says it's more likely a third of the country, but all signs point to the taliban. and many criticized that we've paid far too much with blood and treasure, but to attack launching attacks like 9/11 again, and if the taliban take over, we could face another attack? >> we should be concerned. we're not abandoning the area and we're not cutting and run, we're still giving them advanced weaponry, training, we're trying to get surrounding countries to help us with this effort. the an of began security forces, they're well-trained. it's been a matter of political

will, the political leadership there, in afghanistan has been shaky, but they've got to get their act together. but we're, i think, ready to help financially, with more weapons, with training, organizing, diplomacy, but it' but i do support the president's decision because the outcome is uncertain, but we are providing resources. we're not leaving. we're giving strategic help. but too many americans, griff, you know, i met with a lot of the soldiers that came back when my political career, ptsd, loss of limbs, a lot of them lost their lives. you know, this is like an endless war, and we're not cutting and run, but putting american lives at risk, i think, has been something that we're not going to do anymore and i believe it's the right decision.

>> very valid point, governor. let me ask you about the geopolitical ramifications though because you have iran, in the west, pakistan in the east and russia in the north and now perhaps there are some unanswered questions about china's interest being at risk there. >> well, first, pakistan. they have to be very concerned about this geopolitical situation. they're our allies and they in fact arranged the meeting that i had with the taliban so they've got a lot of equity there. they're on our side. they're concerned. iran, i think, if there's a negotiation on the nuclear deal, the temperature is lowered. they're going to be not helpful. there's no question about it. china, geopolitically, i just think they've got too many other commercial interests. yes, they'll try to get involved commercially, but

geopolitically, strategy-wise, i'm not concerned. the russians, they were in there before and it didn't work out so i think they're skeptical. now, it's a very important region, griff. so we've got to watch it and concentrate on diplomacy and the best thing we can do is help the afghan security forces, but convince the afghan president, the leadership, you know, get some political will and get your act together. no more internal divisions. and the taliban is, they're tough. griff: they are. >> that's all they want to do is fight. you can't trust them. i can't trust them. griff: governorments they negotiated a cease-fire with me and lasted some time, but they went away from it. griff: sure do. governor, we'll be-- >> i think it's the right choice, griff. griff: we'll be following this and hopefully have you back. before i let you go in the last 30 seconds on a completely unrelated subject, you have a very significant space flight happening in your state

tomorrow with billionaire richard branson. your thoughts? >> well, i started that space port with branson 12 years ago and i caught a lot of heat because they said, well, when is the space capsule going to go up and space tourism? and it finally went technology-wise six weeks ago and now branson, against bezos, it's great publicity for my state. it's great for space. i've always been a space bus. new mexico has had a strong space tradition so it's going to be a glorious day for the world because we've got to learn more about space and that's what's happening. but i took a lot of heat over 12 years they said what about this boondogle, we paid for half, the state. branson paid half, but i thought branson would come through and he's coming through and i hope he beats bezos that's better for my state as we get more publicity. griff: there you go.

pride for new mexico, i think that branson should be taking you, governor. you'll have to address that with him why you're not on that flight. governor bill richardson, former governor, thank you for taking time. >> thank you. griff: jacqui. jacqui: any relief in sight for millions of americans suffering through this historic heat wave out west. we'll get the latest forecast next. was knocking me out of my zone, but lowering my a1c with once-weekly ozempic® helped me get back in it. ♪ oh, oh, oh, ozempic® ♪ my zone? lowering my a1c and losing some weight. now, back to the show. ozempic® is proven to lower a1c. most people who took ozempic® reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it. and you may lose weight. adults lost on average up to 12 pounds. ozempic® isn't for people with type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. don't share needles or pens, or reuse needles. don't take ozempic® if you or your family

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>> overnight storms in nebraska leaving almost 200,000 without power. 90 mile per hour winds, bringing down trees and power lines in omaha and even blowing a small plane upsidedown. local officials are advising people to stay off the roads as crews try and clean up after the storm. jacqui: the midwest is bracing for more storms and further west people are dealing with record high temperatures. here with the latest meteorologist adam klotz with more. >> hey, jacqui, you said the heat is going to be one of the big stories as well as the storms sweeping the middle of the country here the next couple of hours. these are the current numbers across the country and the real intense heat. we've got watches and warnings stretching from the desert southeast and even the pacific southwest.

they've seen record breaking neat and the temperatures the next couple of days, fairly widespread. you're looking at spots into the hundred's and teens and it's hot even if you travel farther to the north where again, temperatures are going to be in triple digits. it's a hot one there for the boys out here on this saturday. otherwise we're tracking storms sweeping into the middle of the country. you mentioned these, the heavy winds at times, hail damage and this is a system that could continue to fire up again today this afternoon so we see an area there across the central plains where there's a potential for isolated tornados and definitely severe thunderstorms and that's something we're going to be paying attention to here as we get a little later into the afternoon hours. jacqui, back out to you. jacqui: adam klotz, thank you. griff. griff: jacqui, time now for a look at some of our headlines. president biden firing the top social security official after andrew saul who was a trump pick said he wouldn't need. he's named an acting

commissioner to take over until he picks a nominee. and haiti's acting government is asking the u.s. to send in troops to help in the wake of the assassination of the president. and they have no plans to send troops. the assassination is uninvestigation. a milestone in the capital of the nations, and the house target of arms says building restrictions will remain in place even after the fence is gone, and it's certainly going to change the way things look around this area. our fox studios here just a block from the capitol where we've seen the fencing for six months, jacqui. jacqui: i'm happy to see it go away. nice to get in and closer and not have to walk around if you're someone who actually goes into the capitol buildings during the week like i do, and also nice to be able to see tourists getting closer to the white house.

they took down the fence there as well. griff: it's a return to normalcy. it will be interesting. the new house committee that deals with things like security at the capitol is set to have their first hearing. the chairman, benny thompson, may bring up his concerns about having fencing down. we'll have to wait and find out. for now it's definitely a good look for d.c. all right, texas governor greg abbott about to hold a news conference as the surge of migrants show no signs of slowing down. unlike ordinary memory supplements, neuriva plus fuels six key indicators of brain performance. more brain performance? yes, please! neuriva. think bigger.

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griff: and just moments from now we expect governor greg abbott to hold a briefing with border community sheriffs. welcome to "fox news live," i'm give general kins. jacqui: and i'm jacqui heinrich. governor abbott has a list of topics he wants to deal with during the state legislature's special session. let's listen in now. oh, we're going to have that in one moment. sorry, griff. griff: running just a little bit behind. the reason why is because they're holding this meeting in austin. they're in a special session, the texas legislature. we'll bring it to you as soon as you get that briefing coming on. now, you are getting live pictures right here from our fox drone flight team in la joya, texas. that is, of course, in the rio grande valley sector, ground zero, where in just the last 24 hours more than 2500

apprehensions have taken place. it's every hour, every day, and it's been going on for more than four months. the officials there, the agents on the ground, the men and women overwhelmed, exhausted but staying in the fight, trying to get things under control. and, of course, now we are hearing that the national guard, more governors going to be sending some troops and resources to the border. that, of course, will be a part of governor abbott's briefing when we take that. but for now, let's begin with jonathan serrie who is live there in texas. hi, jonathan. >> reporter: hi there, griff. when you talk about the border crisis here in texas, you're really talking about two problems. you have the humanitarian crisis, but then you're also dealing with crime, and that's a big concern for law enforcement. some of them meeting with the above this afternoon. governor this afternoon. today we saw six young men wearing black running across the brush here at the border.

two stayed back and hid at the bushes, four continued running. this immediately raised suspicions of agents in the area who pursued the men and apprehended them. they were taken to a border patrol van separate from what you see happening to the migrant families who usually turn themselves in voluntarily, are given water and transported or larger buses. a very different response to these people, these young men who obviously were trying to avoid capture. authorities also say the criminal element is taking advantage of low-level laborers, getting them across the border in exchange for work. >> that's the sad reality of this entire human trafficking thing, a lot of these people are indentured servants for the cartels. so they're almost as much of a victim as the community. >> reporter: taking a looked at our live drone shot from the fox flight team, you can see how the terrain shrugging but walking bl for migrants wanting to get in. the border wall initiated by president trump was never

completed, and construction immediately stopped when president biden took office. this afternoon we will be watching that session, governor abbott of texas meeting with sheriffs along these borderer communities along the u.s./mexico border here in texas trying to brainstorm solutions with other members of the law enforcement community. back to you. griff: jonathan, let me quickly follow up with that, because you mentioned the governor's briefing with sheriffs. there's an important point of the whole story because it's not just the federal border patrol and cbp, you've also got the local level, the sheriffs, texas' dps. have you seen some of that out there? >> reporter: we have, indeed. we've seen texas dbs, we also saw local police. there was a family that had come over the border. the families usually voluntarily turn themselves into authorities. so this local police officer was following in his car behind them as this family were walking

voluntarily towards the border patrol. they essentially come over, and then they'll ask local authorities for directions to the border patrol so that they can voluntarily turn themself in. but then you have the criminal element, usually young men traveling alone, running through the bushes trying to evade authorities, and that really seems to be the top priority, keeping crime from crossing over the border into this country. griff: well, just one more follow up, and that is i think you put your finger on ooh another important point which is the ones that are trying to evade being captured, the footage you have there, it seems that it is coordinated, the cartels trying to send large groups of migrants that want to surrender while they run smaller ones who do not want to be captured. >> reporter: yeah, exactly. and there's a lot of organization that goes on with this. you'll see a lot of the migrants coming over, they're wearing wristbands with an identification number. that's how these organized groups keep track of who

successfully comes over the border and who fails at their attempts. griff: jonathan serrie live for us in la joya, texas, thank you very much. and again to our viewers, we will bring you this governor abbott press briefing this hour. it's going to be very important. thanks, jonathan. jacqui: day two of cpac's in full swing in dallas where speakers are looking ahead to the midterm elections. casey stegall is live in dallas with the latest on that for us. hey, casey. >> reporter: good to see you. you know, this is billed right here as the largest and the most influential gathering of conservatives in the whole world, and this is a rare summer convention. and you hit the nail on the held, it's perfectly timed as it's a little bit closer to the upcoming midterm elections. as you well know, cpac is traditionally held months earlier, typically in february, and it was this year.

but the american conservative union chair picked texas for a second conference largely because it's ruby red. donald trump jr. held a speech last night drawing a pretty large crowd speaking about cancel culture which is the theme of this whole conference. big names hitting the stage today, senator marsha blackburn and glenn beck, you also have a lot of trump supporters here like former acting homeland security secretary chad wolf. >> i'm happy to be here in dallas, happy to be at cpac to talk about the great work that we did, the challenges that we have going forward and what are the right policies to tackle those challenges. >> reporter: now, of course, the headliner, former president donald j. trump, will deliver the keynote speech tomorrow, effectively closing this whole thing out. organizers say it is a three-day run, and they expect about 4,000 people to trickle through here through that span of three days.

notably absent is texas governor greg abbott. and just as you heard at the top of the hour, his office says with the border and with the special legislative session that he was going to skip this conference and stay in austin instead. lieutenant governor dan patrick and attorney general ken paxton, however, some notable texas republicans that are here. a big weekend, no doubt, in texas. jacqui: all right. casey stegall, thank you so much. griff? griff: joining us now fresh off his appearance at cpac, republican senator if tennessee, a member of the senate appropriations committee, bill hagerty. senator, thank you for taking time. let's start with your address to the folks at cpac. what did you tell them? >> well, griff, it's great to be back with you. we talked a lot about the threats that face our nation and the fact that the biden administration is opening the door to so many of the adversaries that we had done such a good job under president

trump's leadership of showing strength and the fortitude of america. what we're seeing right now are the knee-jerk policies that biden has used, collapsing our border, kowtowing to the w.h.o. and refunding them, nord stream 2, letting the russians have that pipeline, entering the s.t.a.r.t. deal with the russians, getting nothing in return and, certainly, if you look at what we've done with china, killing the keystone xl pipeline, stopping all drilling in the u.s. just as vladimir putin and the ayatollahs and president xi is a laughing. again, funding more terror against our allies in the middle east and, frankly, the cartels in mexico are loving the biden administration policies as well. the flow of illegal fentanyl coming in from china through mexico across our borders, and, of course, the criminal elements here in america are thriving. that's who's enjoying the benefit here.

griff: senator, cpac is, of course, the center of conservative universe and ideas that come out of there often drive policies of the party. what are people saying to you when it comes to their fears and concerns for the 21st century? is it the southern border or is it russia, ransomware? what are you hearing? >> yeah, i'm hearing all of the above. and really at the core of it is america is hungry for strong leadership. and i can tell you from the past, serving in the trump administration as u.s. ambassador to japan, again, that's the third largest economy in the world after the united states and china. the world is hungry for american leadership. they need america to be back at the fore, leading with america's interests at heart, with the interests of our allies at heart and standing up for the greatness that this nation has always been a founder of. griff: shifting gears from threats to negotiations here in washington on infrastructure. i want to know what you are hearing there. the former president tweeting

late yesterday something that says -- not a tweet, i apologize. he doesn't tweet, my bad. these are old habits. he put out a statement from his office saying rino republicans should stop negotiating the infrastructure deal. you're just being played by the radical left democrats, they will give you nothing. your thoughts. >> well, my concern is very obvious. the radical democrat position is they want to push through a $6 trillion package. they're going to use parliamentary tricks and something called reconciliation which is the exact opposite of what you might think it means. they're going to use this trick to shove through all of this radical social policy that very few americans would support. they're trying to get republicans to cooperate on certain aspects of infrastructure that probably we would agree on, roads, bridges, airports, highways, even broadband. they want to go far beyond that. and that's under the guise of bipartisanship. it doesn't appear to me that they're looking for a bipartisan

solution at all. they're looking to shove through their policies. griff: so do you agree or disagree, senator, with the former president that republicans should just stop negotiating now? >> i'm going to have a very hard time moving forward myself, and i think that would put me in alignment with president trump here. looking at what they're talking about doing and the way biden pushed immediately to talk about pairing these two things and not signing one without the other, and they're trying to walk that back at the white house. i think the message is pretty clear what they're trying to do. they're trying to, again, use parliamentary tricks to shove through this massive package that that will add trillions more dollars of debt to our children and grandchildren. we're creating inflation at the same time, and we're moving in a direction that i think americans don't want us to go. griff: you put your finger on a word there, debt for our future generations. having covered cpac for more than 25 years, i remember it going all the way back to the '90s that the republican party conservatives were all about not putting more debt out there. in about three weeks, july 31st,

we are going to have the first opportunity for conservatives to try and hold the line on the debt ceiling. yet republicans are negotiating for a $6 trillion possible deal which certainly would increase debt. do you anticipate conservatives, republicans trying to mount this stand in three weeks with regards to a debt ceiling? >> i think it's going to be a very strong stand that you'll see from conservatives. you'll see us standing up for what we believe is the long-term future of america. we've got to navigate through this coronavirus pandemic. i think the congress took on debt in order to get us through a once in a lifetime crisis. at least i hope that's the case. but with we need to begin to bend the curve back at this point. and again, the policies that are coming out of the biden administration, a $6 trillion infrastructure participation that's moving in entirely the wrong direction. griff griff senator, thank you for taking time. >> great to be with you, griff. thank you. griff: you are looking live at images from texas' state capitol

in austin. governor greg abbott is holding a border security briefing right now with sheriffs from border communities. let's listen in. >> but the state would be providing the money for it, for the erection of it and maybe for the additional manpower that would be with needed for it. go ahead. >> we'd be very reaccept tiff to that. -- receptive to that. i do have the smallest jail in the area, but we we face the highest risk. contracted out in. >> exactly. >> that would be an option. >> okay. all right. very good. we're going to continue this, but let me address these folks real quick, take a few questions, then we'll continue with the conversation. so what's going on today is beginning a month ago our office began the creation of a border security project team, task force to make sure that where the state is working in

collaboration with local officials, especially sheriffs. everybody sitting around this table in front of me is a sheriff among border county regions, a sheriff of areas that are being overrun with an excessively high volume of people who are coming across the border. we promised to meet every other week to talk about what is going on, what is needed, what steps need to be taken to make sure that texas and local officials are better able to address this massive influx. now, the people in the white hats in front of me, they are the tip of the spear. they're the ones who are having to deal with the most immediate consequences, the incredible, large influx of the number of people coming across the border. they have incredible needs that have to be met, and they're going to be able to handle this massive influx. one reason why they're in the capitol today and why they will be in the capitol this coming week is because i put on the

special session agenda the funding of more border security earths. and one thing i've -- efforts. and one thing i've heard consistently today is that each of these counties are dealing with a record number of people who are coming across the border. what was categorized as an unprecedented magnitude of people coming across unlike anything they have ever seen. and many of them, as you've heard already, are people who are subject the being arrested. and when they are arrested, there are issues about where they can be placed. the volume of people who either are arrested or who need to be arrested is so large that we are all working with the texas jail commission as well as the commission on law enforcement to make sure that we're going to be able to arrest more people and then jail more people as well as meet all the legal standards as we go about that process. another thing that i've heard

consistently from everybody at this table, and that is at the local level they need more manpower in dealing with these people coming across the border including especially dealing with gang members and dealing with people from very dangerous countries. one of the gang members -- or one of the gangs that was addressed by one of the sheriffs was called tangled blast. it's just one of a multitude of gangs that operate on both sides of the border but are also involved in the human trafficking and human smuggling that's taking place in the state of texas. one thing that we've done is identify more jail cells for those who are migrants across the border illegally is and who are arrested, and we're working on strategies here today, but also we'll continue to work on centrals with the state legislature to make sure that we have the funding that is needed to provide jail cells for everybody who is arrested. we also need more judges. it's one thing to arrest somebody, but you have to have

judicial magistrates to go through the processing of that. that's a strategy that my office and our team is working on dealing with. another thing, another concern raised by, i think, literally everybody that i've heard from so far is a massive increase in high-speed chases and dangerous smuggling encounters. when you say those words, it really doesn't capture the magnitude of the danger that law enforcement officers are going through whenever they go through those high-speed chases as well as the danger to local residents. when you have speeding cars trying to escape law enforcement in your local community and you never know -- griff: that's texas governor greg abbott holding a border security press conference at the state's capitol in austin talking about the need in a special session to have -- of the legislature to get more funding for border security initiatives from building a new wall in texas as well as getting more jail space for those

sheriffs who he said are the tip of the spear in this border crisis to put people when they begin to arrest them for trespassing. now, when we come back, a louisiana police officer shot in the head. we'll have the latest on his condition next. ♪ ♪ otection. -sounds great. -sure does. shouldn't something, you know, wacky be happening right now? we thought people could use a break. we've all been through a lot this year. -that makes sense. -yeah. so... ♪♪ now's not a good time 3/5ths of nsync. are you sure? you have us booked all day. -read the room, guys. -yeah. right?

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♪ jacqui: a suspect is now in custody after a louisiana police officer was shot and killed last night. alex hogan has the details. >> reporter: last night's shooting is just one of several involving officers this weekend. this latest fatal one, the gunfire broke out when three officers responded to a call in webster parish, louisiana. of two officers escaped unharmed, but one is dead after being shot in the head. the suspect is in custody. officer william earl collins jr., went by billy, he served the doyle line police department. his wife sharing this photo with fox news. he also leaves behind daughters. the sheriff speaking out about this tragic loss. >> we lost ad good man. family lost a good husband, good father. it just breaks my heart because every time we put on this uniform and we go out and we try

to serve the public, this could happen to anybody. >> reporter: in indiana another shooting on wednesday. local police detective greg faraci died after being shot and killed during an ambush outside a federal building. in chicago one man faces federal charges after allegedly shooting two federal agents and a city police officer. bullets wounding one atf agent in the hand, striking the other in the torso and grazing the officer in the head. in chicago, shootings this year are up 11% from this time last year and up 58% from two years ago. last weekend was an extremely violent weekend with more than 100 gunshot victims, and just last night alone 10 people were shot, and 3 of them were killed. jacqui: alex hogan,ning thank you so much. all right. joining us now is national fraternal order of police president patrick yoest who is from louisiana and working to strike a deal with lawmakers on

police reform and protections. thank you so much for being with us, patrick. i want to get just off the top your reaction to that latest news. >> well, our hearts are broken for billy collins. and not just billy. this is a trend that's happening across this country with a 91% increase in the amount of ambush attacks on law enforcement officers from this time last year. so it's so vitally important that we find a way to move past this really difficult time in american history and find some common ground to build some common sense legislation so we can move forward and rebuild this important trust we need in our communities across the country for law enforcement. jacqui: yesterday the white house announced that president biden will meet with law enforcement, local officials and advocates for a gun violence discussion on monday, and that follows criticism that the white house hadn't vocally enough addressed this spike in crime that we've been seeing across the country. what do you hope comes out of that meeting on monday?

>> i can tell you we've been very much engaged for the last several months working with members of the senate and in congress in order to be able to find some common ground to build a path forward for common sense legislation that will help us move forward. the talks have been good. we've found some very good common ground, we've agreed to a framework and really now it's up to congress to build consensus around their constituents in order to be able to move forward. we're cautiously optimistic, we're still having those discussions, but it's so vitally important that we have these discussions. if you look at what's happening across the country, the attacks on law enforcement is one thing, but look at the murder rates. looked at the places where we've done the defunding law enforcement where prosecutors and district attorneys have a revolving door allowing people out of prison, and we're seeing a murder rate that's going through the roof. atlanta, 36% increase. los angeles, 24.

minneapolis, 45. philadelphia, 35. portland, 336% increase in murders since this time last year. so we really need to focus on trying to find a path forward. you know, unfortunately, we find ourselves at a place where some are more interested in the talking points, in the problems than the solution. and so we're very much needing to move forward with this so we can start building trust back with law enforcement. we're caught in the middle of a battle, and it's just not fair to the 800,000 men and women across this country that go to work and make a difference in their communities. jacqui: yeah. i want to point out june 30th you wrote that demagoguery and scare tactics have jeopardized the future of reform efforts, you pressed congress to continue efforts toward criminal justice reform. you said if this fails, it's not just going to be tragic for communities, but also for police officers. can you describe that? >> well, i think, again, there are some that are more focused

on the issue than they are on finding some common ground to move past it. but the problem i think we see across this country is simply this: congress' inability to be able to find some common legislation that takes into consideration all of their constituents leaves states out trying to figure out their own police reform. so what we're seeing is police reform that has such a wide range of approaches to it and, quite honestly, as someone who spent 36 years in law enforcement, some of those are going to have really serious, deadly impact within their communities. and we're already seeing it. so it's important for congress to pull together and find a path forward so that we can fill this gap and not be in a position where states feel like they need to enact separate legislation. jacqui: yeah. the naacp said last month there are few factions within the law enforcement community who don't want meaningful change or accountability, accusing them of standing in the way of a path forward. who are they referring to, can

and is that at all true? >> well, i can't speaker for the naacp. i can tell you, i know where we've been. we have been seated at a table sitting down with senators and members of congress having these really very difficult discussions on how to move forward on something that makes sense and how we can improve the criminal justice system. look, our profession is directly related to the trust we have within our communities. unfortunately, we have some that would like to destroy the reputation of law enforcement in order to be able to have this political issue. this is not about politics. we're not engaged in politics. we're engaged in a path forward. but at the same time, protects the rights of law enforcement officers across this country. jacqui: sir, we've run out of time, but thank you so much for being with us and, of course, we'll have you back in the future to talk about this more. thank you. >> thank you very much. griff griff as america's longest war comes to an end, what people in afghanistan are saying to our greg palkot who's on the ground, next. ♪♪

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♪ griff: at the end of u.s -- as the end of u.s. involvement in afghanistan draws closer, the taliban says it is gaining ground. greg palkot is live on the ground in kabul. hi, greg. >> reporter: hey, griff. yeah, the taliban continue to cross afghanistan, but today i've got to tell you we are seeing reports from the ministry of defense that they are attempting a fightback. they claimed yesterday, the taliban, that they control 8 a 5% of the country -- 85% of the country. that is not correct, but they at least control about a third and a third is contested. again, as i mentioned, the military -- while underperforming in the last couple of weeks -- say they're getting back and pushing into some to have the districts that have been overtaken by the taliban especially in the west and in the north. there are some pretty high death tolls claimed by the government, but we do not have independent confirmation of that. and, in fact, when we were out in kabuled today, we saw some

people who were not taking the government at their word at all. take a look. you're looking at people who are struggling to get out of afghanistan. the taliban is making its move all across the country. they are worried about what's going to happen in this country, so they are right here, and they're trying to get their passports. >> taliban -- >> reporter: bombarding everything taliban? people want to to get out of afghanistan now? >> yeah. >> reporter: whysome. >> the situation right now, it's hard to live here. >> reporter: griff, we also heard more complaints today about the exit of u.s. troops and the speed of that exit. but we also heard today from the president of afghanistan. in his words, the country must today united. back to you. griff griff greg palkot live on the ground in kabul, stay safe. thank you.

jacqui: griff, thank you. joining us for analysis is morgan ortugas. thank you so much for being with us, morgan. >> thank you, appreciate it. jacqui: so the administration has said the afghan people have the capacity, they have the tools. the only question is will they assume the mantel and act to nation-build for themselves? your opinion, can they? >> so, jack -- i think the way the withdrawal is taking place right now is pretty disgraceful. it didn't have to happen this way. and what you often hear is sort of this debate that we have to end forever wars which i think a lot of the american people, politicians agree with, or we have to stay in afghanistan forever of. and this actually is a middle way, and that's the way that president trump and mike pompeo, secretary of state, were pursuing which is continued diplomatic negotiations, getting a peace deal9 with the taliban, trying to hold them accountable and drawing down our forces.

yes, we were definitely drawing down our forces in afghanistan under president trump, under mike pompeo. but the difference was, was that we were constantly assessing the counter -- excuse me, the terrorism threat while we were doing so. and we have remained committed to leafing a residual counterterrorism force as long as there is a threat to the united states. so to me, this looks like a hasty, embarrassing withdrawal. i understand that president biden wants to put an end to forever wars, but i don't see how his administration is taking into account the people that have helped us on the ground, the interpreters that you and others have reported on that have helped the united states for many years, and i don't see how they are assessing the terrorism that may emanate out of afghanistan to the united states. our commitment under mike pompeo and president trump was that afghanistan would never again be a safe haven for terrorists to be able to plan attacks against american soil, and this withdrawal that the biden

administration's doing, i don't see how that is being taken into account. jacqui: well, to one thing you mentioned, i should point out that the administration has said that they are working to get these translators, allies of the u.s. to safety in countries and that is, of course, a big concern and priority for the administration. but want to get to one other point. are you at all concerned that there's not enough intelligence-gathering capability left with this withdrawal? >> yeah, you hit the nail on the head. i'm very concerned about that. you know, where are we going to operate some of our intelligence platforms from, from pakistan? which is essentially now a chinese satellite and, obviously, harbored the taliban for a long time? we don't have -- it's not like in iraq where we have plenty of bases throughout the middle where we could go in quickly. we don't have that many strategic advantages geographically in afghanistan. so what this administration is going to have to do is they're going to have to assess how bad the isis and al-qaeda threat

gets to the american homeland in afghanistan when we withdraw completely, and then they're going to have to make a costly decision about potentially going back in if there are more attacks that are planned against, that would harm americans. and that's the part where it gets expensive, gets harder. instead of leaving a small residual, maybe 1,000, 2,000 counterterrorism force, we're taking all of our at sets -- assets out. and, god forbid, if there's another terrorist threat, we have to put everything back in. jacqui: and should point out u.k. british troops have pulled out as well. a taliban political delegation went to moscow. i want to ask you, could russia be quite nervous about the advances the taliban's making? >> not only russia, i think china as well. remember, china and russia benefit from a stable afghanistan. china shares a small border with afghanistan, and these countries are much closer to afghanistan

than we are. so they certainly reap the benefits of a secure, stable and peaceful afghanistan, and now this becomes another problem that they have to consider what they are going to do. jacqui: one last question. want to get to haiti with the time we have left. the fbi, doj is going to address the assassination of the leader there. how involved do you think that the united states should be in determining what happened and restabilizing this country that, you know, is in turmoil right now? >> so what's, what we have to do is pay attention, what the biden administration should do is pay more attention the latin america writ large are. i don't know if you actually know this, but this is the second assassination on a leader in the western hemisphere the past two weeks. president biden called the colombian president after an assassination attempt.

so while we are busy withdrawing from afghanistan, looking at the threats of the chinese communist party, administration needs to pay close and careful attention to the western hemisphere. obviously, sending fbi and other resources are great, but we're starting to see an erosion of democracy in some places like in mexico. we see assassination attempts on our allies in colombia. and to my knowledge, president biden till hasn't picked up the -- still hasn't picked up the phone to call the president of brazil. so western hemisphere is something that the administration needs to pay more attention to. jacqui: thank you so much for your time, morgan ortegas, appreciate your participation. have a good day. griff griff president biden taking a hard look at big tech as he signs a new executive order. a debate over what it does, next. ♪♪

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order because on the one hand, you have the administration, president biden, issuing this executive order with some 72 initiatives cracking down on big tech. at the same time, former president trump suing big tech; facebook, google, twitter and putting his op-ed in the "wall street journal" that this is one of the biggest threats to society, the threat on free speech. matt, i want to start with you. your reaction to this executive order. >> you know, i think this is somewhere where the right and the left could actually find some consensus on. i think conservatives, beyond president trump, are really concerned about, i think, the lack of transparency with some of the larger platforms, even like a youtube that really shapes the public debate. you know, an example being ron desantis was having a panel last spring with recan den,ned scientists -- yes credentialed scientists, and it was pulled from youtube. i think conservatives are looking for transparency and accountability from larger platforms that'll give consumers

opportunity and also allow smaller tech companies to be able to compete more fairly. griff: you raise a good point about sort of a birth partisan sentiment. kristin, is this, president biden accomplishing what former president trump wanted to do? >> yeah, i mean, i think, you know, this is -- i'm glad that the president is taking this action. you know, there has been some bipartisan movement in the jaw dishly committee in the cows -- judiciary committee in the house, but congressional action is difficult, and with the politics where they are so to polarized right now, i don't know if that would make its way through the legislative process. but what the president's doing right now, over the past decade, you know, these big tech companies have gobbled up, like, hundreds of other companies in what they call killer acquisitions. and it just kills competition. over the past the ten years, federal agencies with antitrust authority have just kind of looked a aside. so i think what the president is doing now is actually accomplishing something that is

good for the whole country and everybody, you know, people on both sides are onboard with. griff: you raise a good point, kristin, we'll see if it gets any congressional teeth, as it were. we had former -- or current representative ken buck saying he doesn't want republicans to take any donations from big tech companies as a result of where things stand. do you think that is something we're going to see? >> you know, i think it mine up to the member. certainly, congressman buck has that right to not do that. i think folks can vote with their pocketbooks, so if folks want to make that a priority, that's totally understandable. but i think more broadly about the policy, i think that's a what they should be focusing on, and i think kristin's right. maybe we'll see it in congress, but who knows, a lot of gridlock. griff: kristin, should the administration -- from big tech? >> you know what? i had a boss in congress, and he said the best thing. the second that you stop taking money from one means that you are influenced by their money.

so i think, you know, corporate disclosed limited dollars are appropriate, and i don't really agree with, you know, picking and choosing who, you know, who you take money from. griff: let's see if either of you agree with the nation's top health official, hhs secretary xavier becerra making these remarks about vaccinations. listen. >> the federal government's had to spend trillions of dollars to try the keep americans alive during this pandemic, so it is absolutely the government's business. griff: now, it wasn't long after he was doing the walkback dance tweeting some comments i made today are being taken wildly out of context. to be clear, government has no database tracking who is vaccinated, but clearly the hhs secretary is okay with the government maybe knowing whether or not you've been vaccinated. matt, are you good with that? >> no, certainly not. and, look, secretary becerra's

profoundly unqualified to be the secretary to begin with. look, this is government interference run amok. it's also, i think, going to repel people from getting advantage cincinnatied. we need incentive and education -- vaccinated. griff: kristin, your thoughts. >> so inappropriate comments, and there is, no database. and rather than, you know, take a political approach to this, i think the administration's doing the right thing by eckinging people -- educating people. the vaccinations work. you know, going to religious leaders and companies and, you know, educating people who may be reluctant to get the vaccination. but, you know, it's a way that we can all return back to real life. griff: and just very quickly, in just about ten seconds, i'm going to give both of you, have the vaccinations become too political of an issue? yes or no, matt? >> unfortunately, yes. people should be vaccinated, but yes. griff: kristin, your thoughts. >> yes.

[laughter] griff: we've got the leave it there. kristin, matt, thank you very much more taking time. jacqui: california announcing a controversial policy for the upcoming school year. more on that coming up next. ♪ ♪ you need an ecolab scientific clean here. and here. which is why the scientific expertise that helps operating rooms stay clean now helps the places you go too. look for the ecolab science certified seal. new projects means new project managers. now helps the you need to hire.. i need indeed. indeed you do. the moment you sponsor a job on indeed you get a short list of quality candidates from our resume database. claim your seventy five dollar credit, when you post your first job at indeed.com/home.

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>> r eporter: they've also questioned the rationale behind it as covid restrictions are relaxed nationwide. >> we are so angry and powerless because we see private school kids what are going to school unmasked right now. 15,000 fans at barclays center in brooklyn cheering for the nets, why is that okay, but kids are still forced to face these restrictions? >> reporter: so yesterday when the cdc announced vaccinated teachers and students don't need

to wears masks, it was welcome news for many, but for students here many california, mask wearing will not be over. >> so cdc today laid out a number of layers of mitigation strategies that we've been talking about masking, testing, other strategies. and in california we believe that with masking and with testing as a, as an available option, that we can get kids back here in person 100% in our schools. >> reporter: and keep in mind this isn't the first time california hasn't fallen in line directly with the federal government over covid restrictions. california lifted its statewide mask mandate a month after cdc announced that vaccinated people no longer needed to wear masks in those situations. jacqui: christina, thank you so much. that's all for us this hour, "fox news live" --

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