states this year that have expanded school choice programs that lets poor kids attend schools that actually teach. that's real equity. paul: great, thanks, dan. that's it for this week's show. thanks to all of you for watching. i'm paul gigot, hope to see you right here next week. ♪ arthel: day two of the conservative political action conference is in full swing as republicans look ahead to the midterms and the 2024 presidential elections and while the party waits for its next leader to emerge, one name still looms large. hello, everyone, welcome to "fox news live." i'm arthel neville. eric: thank you for joining us, i'm eric shawn. well, it may not quite have as many key heavy hitters -- conservative heavy hitters as it did earlier this year, but former president trump will be tomorrow's headline speaker there.

for months he's been teeing the possibility of making another white house bid, and it's certainly causing other high profile republicans to tread carefully among growing speculation over who could potentially pick up the mantel if the former president decides against running in 2024. casey stegall is live at cpac in dallas with a look at all the action going on this weekend so far. casey? >> reporter: yeah, eric. and there is an awful lot of it. you know, this is really a who's who of prominent conservatives. you really never know who you going to bump into when you're walking out in the hallways here. we want to now take you inside one of the ballrooms and show you live pictures of a session that just got underway, one of the many special workshops planned here. it's called are the leftovers from the pandemic here to stay, and it is being led by congresswoman jody hice of georgia. former national security adviser ambassador robert o'brien is on deck giving remarks in about 45

minutes or so. and earlier this afternoon the governors of oklahoma and tennessee sat on a special panel covering a range of topics from defunding the police to why the nation is so divided. listen. >> i don't think there's ever been a bigger time when there's a difference between a blue state and a red state. and covid really brought that out. you saw blue state governors really trying to dictate people going to church, what they can do. >> the left has, like they have many of the issues that are important the americans, the left has turned it into something that is divisive. we've seen crime rise all over this country. public safety, people want to live in a safe neighborhood. >> reporter: now, you most certainly see a lot of trump support here, people wearing make america great apparel. of course, the former president's son, don jr., spoke here yesterday and was very well received, spent a lot of time

taking shots at the current white house, the current administration. of course, former president donald trump himself is the biggest name of the conference, and he is headlining tomorrow, essentially closing this out. eric? arthel: casey, it's me, i'll take it. so question -- >> reporter: hey. arthel: yeah. have you been able to glean what the conservatives there stand for? because we hear a lot of what the current administration's not doing, and i know they want the take back everything come mud terms. what are they standing for? >> reporter: yeah, that's a good question. there's a lot of discussion in these various workshops that i've been able to listen in on, you know, talking about how the gop really has to reorganize itself. and i think that that is very evident, and people have been talking about that now for a while. but, you know, there are divisions within the party. so so how do you move forward and take this unified front. and that, those are some of the

things that they're talking about the importance of doing in addition to, of course, pointing out what they believe is not being done properly. so both things are certainly being discussed and talked about, arthel. arthel: casey stegall reporting from dallas. thank you very much, casey. take care. >> reporter: you got it. arthel: eric. eric: well, from dallas to afghanistan, the taliban there, we are told, gaining ground in part of the country. this as the remaining u.s. troops there are continuing to head home ahead of schedule. the pentagon calls the taliban's advance concerning, but president biden says it is time to end america's longest war after so much of the country's blood and treasure has been spilled there. greg palkot reporting live on the ground in kabul where it is just after midnight there. hi, greg. >> reporter: hey, eric, that's right. the taliban's offensive continues all across afghanistan. today there had been reports, however, of a government fightback.

finish we've been tracking it for the two days that we've been here so far. militants have been making gains as cross the country. it's thought they control one-third of afghanistan. it's thought that another third is being contested. overall, the afghan military has not been doing well. there are government claims now that they are retaking some of the districts that the taliban have seized. reports of dozens of militants killed, but there's no independent confirmation of that, and as we found out today, the locals here are not taking any chances. take a listen. you're looking at people who are struggling to get out of afghanistan. the taliban is making its move all across the country. they are worried about what's going to happen in this country, so they are right here, and they're trying to get their passports. >> taliban coming here. >> reporter: everything's bombarding, everything's taliban? >> yeah, everywhere. >> reporter: people want to get out of afghanistan now? >> yeah.

>> reporter: why? >> the situation right now, it's hard to live here. >> reporter: we've also heard complaints today, eric, about the exit of the u.s. troops, the speed of that exit. we also heard from afghan president ashraf ghaani, in his words, we must stay united. tall task. back to you. eric: that it is. arthel? arthel: workers in charlottesville, virginia, today removed statues of confederate generals robert e. lee and stonewall jackson four years after plans to move one of them helped spark deadly violence at a white supremacist rally. let's go to lucas tomlinson now. he's live in charlottesville with more details. lucas. >> reporter: arthel, the statue of general robert e. lee was put up here in 1924. this morning it was brought down peacefully. the mayor spoke earlier today. >> taking down this statue is one small step closer to the

goal of helping charlottesville, virginia, and america grapple with its sin of being willing to destroy black people for economic gain. >> reporter: it was a pretty low-key affair with the statue being removed at 8 a.m. the statue of lee was the source of recent controversy and tragedy. in july 2017 white supremacists marched on charlottesville. a month later the infamous unite the right rally resulting in the death of a 32-year-old woman. joe biden, then a candidate for president, said he was greatly moved by the tragedy, and it helped convince him run for office after president trump said both sides were the blame for the violence. the city removed the statues after virginia's supreme court weighed in allowing the removals to proceed p. a few hours after the general lee statue was removed, another statue of a confederate general was hauled

off as well, stonewall jackson. a local pastor described the feeling of seeing the statues removed. >> my hair is gray enough for you to know we've been through some struggles in this country. my prayer was that my grandchildren and great grandchildren would not have to do the same thing all over again. >> reporter: the city announced the statues should be removed just yesterday to avoid any violence and a repeat of 2017. arthel? arthel: lee and jackson gone. understand there's going to be a third statue that's going to be removed? which one? what can you tell us? >> reporter: it's already happened, arthel. just a short hour ago the statue of lewis, clark and sacajawea, the third skew was removed, hauled off -- statue was removed, and is just now learning about a fourth statue, arthel, that of george rogers clark, that is the older brother of william clark, the explore per.

that statue's on the university9 of virginia's property. that is going to come down tomorrow afternoon, we're told by officials here. arthel: okay. cat tomlinson in charlottesville -- lucas tomlinson, thanks. eric. ♪ eric: texas governor greg abbott holding border security briefings with sheriffs at the state capitol in austin today. this as the migrant surge there shows no signs of slowing down. in fact, the border patrol says more than00 migrants a day are crossing into our nation. meantime, the combination of covid and the scorching heat and temperatures simply making the crisis there even worse. jonathan serrie is in mission, texas, with the very latest on the ground. hi, jonathan. >> reporter: hi there, eric. right now i'm standing in front of a section of the border wall. i say a section, because it's really not a complete hole as we take an a aerial view from our fox flight team drone. you can see how easy it is to simply walk around large,

unfinished portions of the border wall whose construction began during the trump administration and ended abruptly when president biden took office. meeting with the sheriffs of texas border communities this afternoon, governor greg abbott said it would be feasible for the state to get the job done because it has an abundance of public land along the border as well as private land that's being with offered by the owners. >> and so we have more mileage available to us to build a border wall than what has already been built in the state of texas by the trump administration. >> reporter: one concern raised at that meeting was the criminal activity that continues to spill over the border. today the department of public safety says its troopers engaged in a high-speed chase involving human smuggling. the suspected smuggler crashed into one vehicle during the chase but continued to flee authorities until he lost control of his vehicle and struck a pole. police arrested the driver and referred the. seven migrants he was carrying

to the u.s. border patrol. earlier today we saw six young men wearing black running across the border. two stayed back and hid in the bushes, four continued running. this immediately raised the suspicions of the border patrol agents who went into the area, pursued the men and apprehended them. these men were taken to a border patrol van separate from migrant families who usually turn themselves in voluntarily, are given water and transported on larger buses. and that really illustrates, eric and arthel, the double duty that border patrol agents are doing. on the one hand, responding to a humanitarian crisis. and on the other hand, responding to criminal activity. back to you guys. eric: yeah. seven people crammed in that car. jonathan, thank you. arthel? arthel: eric, we're going to take you back live to dallas, texas, where conservatives have gathered for the second cpac conference of the year. the first one was in orlando, florida, back in february. several prominent conservatives

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♪ eric: president biden warning russia's president vladimir putin after that massive ransomware attack that hit over the fourth of july weekend. the white house says the president urged putin to take action against russian hackers. mr. biden himself later said that he mentioned consequences to his russian counterpart. mark meredith live for us in wilmington, delaware, where the president is spending this weekend. hi, mark. >> eric, good afternoon. hackers are constantly targeting u.s. businesses and u.s. infrastructure, but the white house says this is a national security issue and an issue that president biden had a chance to speak to the russian president about on friday. we're told that the call lasted for roughly an hour. there were two main points of

discussion. one, the need to keep humanitarian assistance flowing into syria, the second, these ongoing ransomware attacks being launched by cyber gangs based in russia. the u.s. insists as of now it does not believe the russian government is ordering these takes. >> we don't have additional or new information suggesting the russian government directed these attacks. we also know and we also believe that they have a responsibility. they have a responsibility to take action. >> reporter: so is what comes next? the white house previewing this saying president biden reiterated that the united states will take any necessary action to defend its people and its critical infrastructure in the face of this continuing challenge. we'll keep watching it. also on friday the president signing a new executive order urging the federal government to protect businesses against monopolies. the president says only a small number of companies are controlling so many u.s. industries from technology, internet companies to health care. his executive order urging the

federal government to be more aggressive in enforcing trust measures. -- antitrust measures. >> but what we've seen over the past few decades is less competition ask and more concentration that holds our economy back. we see it in big agriculture, in big tech, in big pharma, the list goes on. rather than competing for consumers, they are consuming their competitors. >> reporter: the u.s. chamber of commerce, though, is pushing back saying this is a horrible executive order and that it set a, quote -- i'm sorry, quote: smacks of a government knows best approach to the economy. we've seen some republicans starting to hit the president on this, but the white house is said this is where the federal government needs to stand up. eric? eric: mark, thanks so much. ♪ >> the heart of american capitalism is a simple idea, open and fair competition. that means if your companies

want to win your business, they have to go out and they have to up their game. rather than competing for consumers, they are consuming their competitors. rather than competing for workers -- arthel: that's president biden on his sweeping new executive order mark just mentioned. it targets some of the world's biggest corporation. the order includes bans on big pharma paying generic companies to stay out of the market, lowering the cost of hearing aids, forcing airlines to refund customers for delayed baggage and banning non-compete clauses in employment contracts. but some analysts question whether the federal government has the power to rein in america's biggest companies. joining us now i is james freeman, he's a "wall street journal" editorial page assistant editor and a fox news contributor. so, excuse me, james, so president biden says, listen, the more competition, more competition across the board,

companies are forced to stay, you know, on top of their game. they can't get complacent. and it keeps american companies competitive, and it also gives, you know, more consumers get more choices and pricing options, and he says americans will have more leverage with jobs options. you tell us why is this good or why can it not work. >> well, i agreed with the president when he was saying the heart of market capitalism is open competition. i think we all know that. that's how we get the best price, the most choice, the best quality. but after saying we need open competition, he then ran through this long list of ways he wants the government the manage the marketplace. it's the opposite of open competition. arthel: now, let me ask, is he doing that or is he just saying, hey, companies, get your act together. the big guy here can't squeeze out the little guy there because

you're generic. it seems like he was trying to spur better competition, more competition, better recordkeeping. i don't know, maybe i have it wrong. better rules and regulations. >> well, i guess that's his intent but when he's inviting bureaucrats from across the bureaucracy to take a much bigger role in our economic lives, that is going to have a cost. that's not open competition. that's government management. and i think we've seen in a lot of industries nobody can create a monopoly like government. and one thing that's very disturbing about this order is the particular iermt against the internet, and there was really a bipartisan consensus in this country that we wanted the avoid the mistakes we made with the telephone market when it came to the internet. we had very heavy government regulation of telephones or for roughly a century in this country. there was very little innovation. arthel: right. but let me ask you this quickly, since you brought up the telephone companies, but that

was different. telephone company was a conversation, i call you, you call me, we have a conversation. maybe we could do some three-way calling, but the internet is a whole other thing. you put stuff out there that is broadcast to the masses, and the people start to believe craziness that they're reading on the internet. >> well, i think if there's libel with, then people ought to sue for that. but in general, i think what you see with the internet is that variety that we've all enjoyed for a very long time, the just myriad of services and apps and all of the things we can to do through the internet, what allowed that was that the government decided to open it up, to allow marketplace competition. competition denied by the federal trade commission or overseen by the fcc, yes, these agencies do have a role. but congress wisely, i think, has never created a department of the internet to kind of

generally regulate this area of activity, and consumers have broadly benefited. ask is one thing i think is disturbing here is he's talking about really getting into the business model of a lot of company in terms -- companies in terms of quiteses and how they deal with customers finish prices and how they deal with customers. i think that's better left to individuals making free choices. arthel: well, a couple of -- quickly. the whole idea of individuals being able to make free choices, if you have five stores you can go to, i can go over here and get something, i can bargain shop, you know? if you only have two, i've got nowhere to go. anyway, that's a side story. i have to aide this portion of a joint statement from the -- read this portion of a joint statement i have. quote: we must insure that the merger's guidelines reflect current economic real estates and empirical learning and that they guide enforcers to review mergers with skepticism the law demands. the current guidelines deserve a

hard look to determine whether they are overly per missive. so, all right, james, question to you and then i have to go, so quickly, without antitrust enforcement and regulation, can the u.s. remain productive, innovative and competitive in the global market? >> i think we'll be more competitive if they don't start or doing what he suggested which is examining -- going back into history and examining mergers that have already happened and figuring out if there's a regulatory response to that. i think that's -- can it may be appealing to some people, but it's sand in the gears of the economy, and it does have a cost. arthel: okay. for the record, believe in capitalism. do not tweet me. >> i do too. arthel: okay? if no, they're not coming after you, james, they're coming after me, okay? james freeman, thank you. >> thanks, arthel. arthel: okay, take care. eric, you have a serious story

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officer last night. three officers responded to a call in webster parish. two officers escaped unharmed, but one is dead after being shot in the head. the suspect is in custody. officer william earl collins jr. worked at a corrections center and served the police department. his wife sharing this photo with fox news. >> this has got to be the most tragic day that i've ever experienced here. i never thought that i'd see this here in our community. >> reporter: in indiana another shooting on wednesday. police say that a detective died after being shot and killed during an ambush outside a federal building n. chicago one man faces federal charges after allegedly shooting at two federal agents and a police officer. bullets wounding one atf agent in the hand, striking one mt. torso and phrasing the other officer in the head.

grazing the other a officer in the head. >> they were working in an undercover capacity, so we're limited in what we can say about what they were doing and why they were doing it. but they were fired upon while driving all in the same car trying to enter onto the onramp. >> reporter: shootings across the board are up in the city of chicago, up 11% from this time last year and 58% from this time two years ago. arthel? arthel: too much. alex hogan live in new york city, thanks. eric. eric: arthel, those murders of police officers are the latest in a series of attacks that has law enforcement across the country under siege. so far this year 23 police officers have been shot and killed in 14 statements. the rising bloodshed has prompted some to take action. this week new york governor andrew cuomo issued an historic executive order aimed at tackling the spike in shootings. >> so today the first state in the nation is going to declare a

disaster emergency on gun violence. [applause] eric: will this work? let's bring in former new york police, city police commissioner howard safer, who worked with mayor giuliani. commissioner, always good to see you. i tell you, there's a war on police officers. in chicago 36 officers, 36 have been shot this year. 45 officers across the country shot and killed last year. how do we end this? >> we end it by stopping what's happening in this country. we're going from a country of laws to a country of chaos. when we have district attorneys who are refusing to prosecute crimes, for instance, in california the district attorney is not going to prosecute any theft under $1,000. it sends a message to criminals that you don't need to be afraid of police. you can commit crimes with impunity. that along with the defund the police, with the demonization of police, with the elimination of

qualified immunity, the message that we're sending right from the top from president biden who said there was systematic racism among police are causing police to hang back and not do their job because they know that the criminals are no longer afraid of them and they're not going to get prosecuted. eric: the biden administration starting strike forces in some major cities to go after guns and these shootings. do you think that this type of strike force is an appropriate response, and do you think that will stop this rash of shootings especially against police officers? >> well, what we need to do is we need to make sure that specialized gun enforcement units like was eliminated by the police commissioner in new york city are reinstituted, and -- -- and we need to have criminals held responsible. we can't have this no cash bail law promulgated throughout the country where somebody shoots somebody five times and they're

back out on the street the same day. what's happening is we are losing respect for police, and police officers are not going to put their families and their future at jeopardy because of the lack of qualified immunity or the demonization by groups like black lives matter and antifa. the number one issue for most americans is reduction of crime in cities. eric: you know, the loudest voices resulted, basically in new york, in the so-called bail reform which critics say has actually turned criminal out on the streets. >> well, it absolutely does. the fact is there is case after case where somebody has shot somebody, assaulted somebody, they're put right back on the street, they do exactly the same thing. now, the only people who should be a afraid of police are criminals. but when you send a signal that you're not going to be held accountable, you're not going to go to jail and that you're going to be treated with kid gloves by the justice establishment, what you're doing is you're sending a

message for anarchy. we need to go back to where we were seven, eight years ago when we were the safest large country in the world, and now we are going back to the bad old days. and it's all being done primarily by leftist, democratic mayors. eric: in new york, as you know, eric adams just won the democratic nomination which favors him, potentially, in november running against curtis sliwa, the new york republican who's a legend in his own right fighting against crime as the founder of the guardian angels. but adams seems to be the most moderate of that progressive group. he's a former police officer, 22 years. he carries a service revolver, still does, and he has talked about reinstituting some parts of stop and frisk as well as the anti-crime undercover unit that took guns off the streets and actually cracking down on crime.

do you see his win in the democratic primary as an example, especially in the minority neighborhoods that are hit so hard by crimes, that shows he won over 70% in some of those spots in. >> well, absolutely. because a majority of people in communities of color are haw abiding and want the same thing that everybody else wants; safety for their families, the right to make a living, the right to be unimpeded by crime. eric adams is the best choice because he was a cop, he understands the climate, and he was brave enough to utter the words that the left hates which is stop and san francisco ifing. stop and san francisco ifing is not a policy -- frisk. it's a tool that reduces crime. and i'm optimistic that eric adams start turning things around in new york because the current administration has been a total disaster. eric: and not just new york. 1,600 people, 1,600 people shot so far this year in chicago.

100 shot over the july 4th weekend in chicago. 19 people killed. a former new york police commissioner, howard safer. commissioner, always good to see you, and thank you for your service the new york's finest. >> nice being with you, eric. eric: of course. arthel? arthel: thanks, eric. are you fearless enough to hunt pythons? oh, boy. florida is offering big cash prizes to those willing to capture these massive and dangerous snakes. a pair of python hunters will join us next to explain how they do it. ♪ ♪ ok everyone, our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. whoo hoo! ensure, with 27 vitamins and minerals, now introducing ensure complete! with 30 grams of protein.

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pythons in the everglades. the large nonpoisonous snakes are a big threat to the ecosystem, and there is a big prize up for grabs this year, $10,000 for whoever catches the most pythons. joining us now are two of this year's participants -- wow, beth in the blue shirt and peggy, nice the see both of you. between the two of these ladies right here, they have removed about 200 snakes. wow. okay. so, peggy, i guess -- i can't even -- i couldn't wait for this. first of all, peggy, what can you tell us, what is it like to compete in this? is it exhilarating? why do you like it? >> it very much is exhilarating. it's kind of like regular life, hourses and hours of boredom and then a half hour of sheer excitement. [laughter] arthel: what about you, beth? >> you know, it's the same thing. you have to, you know, as far as

enjoying the wildlife that you see or just being out there too is something that's part of it. you're looking for the snakes, but there's a lot of other things you might witness. if. arthel: well, i'm telling y'all if i'm looking for these big old snakes, i won't see anything else because i'm on the watch because these things are not getting me. >> you know, the challenge just started, and it's not too late to go down and register. a lot can happen in a week. >> that's right, that's right. arthel: no, no, no. no. i would love to come have coffee with y'all, but no, i'm not doing this. [laughter] i want to take a look at the equipment that's allowed or not allowed in the python challenge. okay, so i believe, let's see, allowed we have air guns, drones, detector dogs. what's not allowed, firearms, offroad and, you know, atvs, traps, bait, explosives and chemicals. so, beth, what are the rules? how does the python challenge work in. >> well, it's pretty basic.

i mean, first off, anybody participating needs to go, when they register, there's a lot of rules that they're going to have to make sure they're in the right areas that, you know, if they do catch it, they have to make sure they're in the right areas. that's one. two, you know, depending -- now, contractors, of course, how we enter and how you get your average person that wants to do this, you know, they have to euthanize the snakes appropriately and turn them in to these centers. >> well, the equipment that you really need, hands. [laughter] arthel: what did you say? >> hands. arthel: wait a minute. but at what point did you know, peggy, that you had a way with snakes? >> well, i -- we entered the first challenge -- can or the second challenge in 2016, and we were wildly unsuccessful, didn't

get one python. but we were hooked on on being t there and looking for them. so we hike a lot in the wildlife management areas and caught some pythons, got some experience under our belt, then we got hired by fwc. but we use just our hands and snake bags. arthel: so what's the trick, beth? how do you do this? >> you don't his a tate. [laughter] his anticipate. i mean -- hesitate. you're going to spot the snake, and you're going to approach the snake -- >> and then you're to going to get him by the neck quickly. >> as quickly as you can you need to control the head. arthel: okay. so if it sees you and you're trying to, like, sneak up on the snake and you're telling me at the same time you have to act quickly, seems to me he's going to pounce at you. beth -- >> that's a possibility, yeah. >> yeah, that can happen. you just -- i mean, that's also i would recommend anyone participating to wear boots.

don't think sandals are a good way to go out there. there's other venomous snakes that they might come across that you won't see just like pythons. a lot of them, you know, they're good at hiding. so you could walk right by one and not know -- >> the florida fish and wildlife conservation commission does have training that's on their web site. but it's not for the faint of heart. if you see a snake, you've just got to go for it and catch it. that's the long and short of it. arthel: but you said you have to euthanize it. you have to be gentle with the snake -- >> we can't do that. >> we live capture. arthel: so you take it back in that pillow case in. >> pretty much, yeah. [laughter] arthel: okay. but then what happens to the snakes after you turn them in? >> well, there's a lot of agencies participating in trying to eliminate this problem. university of florida partners

with the fwc, so a lot of snakes go to the university of florida. the southwester is van city -- conservancy plants chips and tracks them. they've been in the everglades since right around the late '70s, early '80s, but we the still don't know a lot about their behavior. so a lot of it goes to science and study so eventually we can control and contain this problem. but in the meantime -- arthel:, in the meantime? >> best tool we have. arthel: go ahead, beth. wait, let me ask you a question, beth. i i know they're taking over the environment and some of them would go to science, but do they get killed, some of them? >> unfortunately -- >> yes. unfortunately. >> and nobody takes any joy in that. but when you recognize the devastation they have brought to the everglades, in everglades national park alone there's been a 98% reduction in fur-bearing

mammals. it's very rare that you'll see a rabbit or a raccoon. so when you look at it that we're saving the natives down there, that really has an effect on the entire ecosystem. arthel: i get it. listen, ooh i'm not -- i'm okay with what you're doing. i don't know, i'm from louisiana. hunting is a thing and so there you go. but, peggy and beth, i have to go. peggy, i'm going to have to talk with you about that snake print shirt another time. >> it was a gift from my sister, it's an awesome shirt. arthel: it is, it is. you guys are awesome. i have to go, guys. >> raise public awareness and hopefully people will get out there and have some fun. >> absolutely. arthel: well, i hope you win clash 10,000 in the process. >> -- $10,000. >> you know, that too. [laughter] arthel: do it, do it. my pleasure talking to you. thank you. >> thank you very much. arthel: bye, a y'all.

[laughter] eric? eric: man, arthel, those snakes? peggy and beth are brave ladies. man, oh, man. let's go back now to cpac in dallas, texas, where fox and friends reporter lawrence jones is taking the stage, he's talking about crime. let's listen in. >> but we have to be consistent on the issue. the -- true that you've got leftists out there saying defund the police. that's not movement, that's not the people at home. every poll shows black folks are for the police we have to be consistent. so it goes a little bit like this. when the state abuses its power, we hold them accountable. [applause] we hold them accountable. donald trump wasn't the first man to be spy on by the fbi. that wasn't the first man to have the state abuse of power. secondly, when citizens target

other citizens, they should be held accountable. [applause] and lastly, when people target unfairly the men in blue and try to assassinate them, we should hold them accountable too. [cheers and applause] eric: you've been listening to lawrence jones speaking at cpac in dallas. you can watch all of the cpac events streaming right now on fox nation, so go to foxnation.com or sign up at foxnation.com to see the whole event down in dallas. we'll have more news when we come back. my type 2 diabetes was knocking me out of my zone, but lowering my a1c with once-weekly ozempic® helped me get back in it. ♪ oh, oh, oh, ozempic® ♪ my zone? lowering my a1c and losing some weight. now, back to the show.

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♪ eric: well, california's not on the same page with the cdc when it comes to masks in schools. state officials say that all students must keep wearing masks when they're in classrooms despite new federal guidance that vaccinated teachers and students do not need to keep their a faces covered this fall. christina coleman live in los angeles with the very latest on this dust-up. hi, christina. >> reporter: hi, eric. we spoke with a number of parents today about california's stance on keeping students masked dedespite the federal

government's action on this, and we got mixed reaction. some said they're fine with it, others said it's detrimental to their social development. >> i think that it's a huge part of how we communicate, obviously. so for children to have some of their first experiences in the world to be covering their face, it'd be one hinge if this was just, like, a few months. but now now it's gone on for a year. >> for my girl, i think they're okay wearing their masks. they don't fuss about it. >> i think the teachers are probably vaccinated. we don't know about the other students, parents and just for safety i feel more comfortable. >> reporter: health experts say the rate of covid transmission among school-aged kids is low, also children as young as 12 are eligible for the shot but, again, many students here in california whether they're vaccinated or not will continue to have to wear masks.

and keep in minds this isn't the first time california hasn't fallen in line directly with the federal government. california lifted its statewide mask mandate a month after the cdc announced that vaccinated people no longer needed to wear masks in most situations. eric? eric: all right, christina, thanks so much. that does it for us, but we will be back tomorrow at noon eastern, right, arthel? arthel: absolutely. in a new pair of snake print boots. no, i didn't want say that. i don't mean that. i don't mean that. [laughter] "big saturday show" up next. eric: man, those snakes. arthel: thanks for watching us. [laughter] ♪ ♪that you laughed about♪ ♪well, the names have all changed♪ ♪since you hung around♪ welcome back, america. it sure is good to see you. it wasn't long after i had joined golo before i had to start. buying new pants. golo changes your whole lifestyle

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