♪♪ >> hello, everyone, i'm tammy bruce along with alicia acuna, sean duffy and charlie hurt, and welcome to "the big saturday show." here's what's on tap. >> video of the storm went viral after it completely flooded subways in new york city. if there's anyone to blame, it's climate change. >> alicia. >> are more coronavirus mandates coming? the government is trying to take more control. >> and charlie?

>> anti-trump lawyer michael avenatti was a media darling until he was sentenced to jail. now the media's making stunning admissions about their coverage of him. >> but first, i am live at cpac in dallas, texas, and the theme is america uncanceled. the governors of tennessee and oklahoma taking the stage a short time ago talking about the divisions in our country. >> yeah, i think we're divided because there's an effort to undermine this country from the very foundation. there are those who don't like this country, who don't believe in what it stands for, they don't believe in the greatness and the exceptionalism of it, is they will from -- and they will from within, they know that the way to disrupt is to divide from within. >> and oklahoma's governor says that divide became more pronounced during the

coronavirus pandemic. >> i don't think there's ever been a bigger time when there's a difference between a blue state and a red state. and covid really brought that out. i don't believe that the government should be involved in every part of our lives. you're seeing now states and businesses flock from states that have shutdown mentalities to states like oklahoma, tennessee, texas and florida that were open for business. >> the 3200 cpac attendees are participating in a straw poll, and among the topics is the 2024 republican presidential nomination. former president trump won the straw poll at c a pack in orlando in february -- cpac in orlando in february. we'll see if he wins again. meanwhile, trump takes the main stage at cpac tomorrow afternoon, so that should be pretty exciting. so, look, alicia, i'd like to talk with you a little bit about this. when we look at the news framework, first of all, having cpac is interesting in florida

and texas, both states that have been open and a crowd that clearly still is moving through a trump frame of mind. is this a really meaningful moment for the conservative movement? how do you think this affects how the conservative movement and trump in particular do? >> i think this is a moment in the conservative movement. i don't know if it is the moment because we still have so far to go, and we still have to see what the former president has to say tomorrow. so much, i think, is riding and waiting on whether or not he plans to run again for president. once that happens, then i think we'll see things resort, right? one thing that i did find interesting was in casey stegall's reporting or fox news dallas-based correspondent, he said he had seen in workshops there there are members of the gop getting together trying to identify divisions within the party, how it is that they can bring themselves together and work through some of the issues that brought them to being the

minority party right now in congress and not having the white house. so i think that that's interesting. i think there are conservatives out there who may be taking a step back over the last election and just are waiting to see what happens next. so i do think that this is an interesting moment, for sure, tammy. >> yeah, you know, it's funny, charlie, let me ask you. is the gop still trying to figure out what went wrong, and for them, for a lot of them, it's that donald trump was elected at all. that they would need to be sitting down and trying to figure out what's on people's minds. do you think that indicates that they still don't get it and that there could be a problem, or is this good news? >> well, i think without a doubt, you're right, there are a lot of republicans in power in washington who still don't understand what trump was all about and how he got elected in the first place, and they're still pretty upset about it. largely because in politics all that matters is power, and a lot of people lost their access to that power because of donald

trump. and that's, of course, exactly why donald trump got elected in the first place. but when you wipe away all of the media hysteria and all of the hatred towards trump, what you find out, what you realize -- and i think a lot of us understood this from the beginning -- actually, trump's policies and the things that he fought for are really basic, fundamental things that are huge winners. and when you look at, look around today at what's happened under the biden administration and you look at the border, the madness at the border, and you look at the skyrocketing crime and you look at this insanity that people are trying to teach in schools, suddenly it gets -- it's a nice reminder that, actually, trump had a really freeways agenda. and republicans -- really great agenda. >> perhaps that's what's happening here. sean, take a listen to ric grenell on the cancel culture here at cpac. listen to this. >> the reality is, is that we don't need to be afraid.

we need to defend if each other, and when one person stands up, join them. stop being so timid. let's teach our kids and our grandkids to listen and to -- [applause] maybe learn from someone else. and not run out of the room and put your fingers in your ears and then go cancel somebody because with you don't agree. >> yeah. so, sean, obviously that seems like a really good approach. this is america uncanceled. do you agree with what he's saying? is that part of the solution here in. >> yes. 100%, ric grenell is spot on because i think conservatives and the meddle are the majority, you have these left-wingers who are the minority that are canceling everyone in america. when someone that you know, someone online that you're friends with that you may not know is canceled, stand up and defend them. and a lot of people feel like there's a risk in that because then they might getten canceled too. but if everyone stands together and pushes back against this cancel culture, soon everyone will recognize that we're the

majority. and that's why cpac is important. the question you asked alicia is conservatives, there's a lot of them. this is a lot of people like you that can come together and share common ground at a cpac event. i also think it's relevant for president trump because so many people aren't willing to stand up and push back and fight back, and finally donald trump was one politician who would do it. he would tell the media to go pound sand and conservatives, who couldn't do it themselves, like, thank you for saying what i think, donald trump. that was the power of trump. and if we could channel a little bit of that, maybe a little nicer but still channel trump, we're going to see a conservative comeback in america. but if we do timid into the good night, we are going to lose this fight and lose the country. your point right there at the end is perfect is well in that you can only get canceled if you go, if you agree, if you commit. and the answer is to just say no, to borrow a phrase from mrs. reagan. [laughter] thank you all very much. now, you can watch all of the

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though the severity of the coronavirus pandemic is subsiding? california now says they'll require masks in schools this fall despite new cdc guidance that says vaccinated students and teachers don't need to wear them and as nearly half of all americans have the shot, biden's white house is floating a plan to go door to door to get everyone else advantage cincinnatied. the criticism -- vaccinated. henry mcnaster says, quote: the prospect of government vaccination teams showing up unannounced or unrequested at the tour of targeted home owners or on their property will further deteriorate the public's trust and could lead to potentially disastrous public safety consequences. but the white house is defending their plan. >> the failure to provide accurate public health information including the efficacy of vaccines and the accessibility of them to people across the country including south carolina is literally killing people. this is not federal employees going door to door. this is grassroots volunteers,

this is members of the clergy, these are volunteers who believe that people across the country especially in low-vaccinated areas should have accurate information. >> tammy, i'm going to begin with you because this seems like it is ripe for a topic of conversation and hanging out at the water cooler at cpac. >> yes. you know, what's shock toking is they think it's a good thing that it's not federal employees who would be doing this who would be answerable, you know, to the american people, that it would be stranger from the community going up and knocking on a door k inquiring about one of the most private health dynamics or personal dynamics in our lives which is our condition, maybe a political view about where they want to get -- whether you want to get a shot. keep in mind, of course, the african-american community has legitimate concerns after american hhs studies regarding syphilis, using african-american

men like guinea pigs, that there is this level of trust that still doesn't exist. you're going to go now and send a stranger to knock on a door? and what are you going to do, the lecture them or or tell them what they should do? we immediate to build trust. this is the time to build trust after covid and the decisions that were made not to ruin it even more when you're looking at -- and then, of course, they've labeled these areas, by the way, in some stories trump country. and already trump voters -- [laughter] have also been labeled by pelosi and others as terrorists. so i'm not quite sure -- also, who's going to half, is it a list? is it a list of names? >> right. >> is there elements of health care that these volunteers will see? all of it is a disaster, and the fact that they're sticking with it tells you the level of dysfunction at the biden white house. >> well, and, charlie, i mean, to tammy's point, one of the first things i thought of is exactly how much information will the person knocking on my

door have about me before that conversation even begins? i can tell you in all honesty, it would be a waste of time. everyone in my house is vaccinated. but i don't know about my neighbor, and it's not really my business, charlie. >> well, yeah, no, and if somebody came to your door and started answering lots of personal questions that people have no business asking you, you probably -- welsh to be to polite, you might shut the door, but a lot of other things could happen. but this is just a reminder that there's literally no catastrophe that can happen that democrats will not exploit for their own political purposes. and i really -- and nothing, i've never seen anything in politics in my decades of covering politics more terrifying than this idea of going door to door with, you know, health potentials or government officials or whoever to interrogate people. and, you know, if you think that people aren't going to keep a list, this is all about keeping a list. you can't -- you will never

convince me that you're not going to be keeping a list. and i just pray that all of those democrats who for years have stood up for, you know, hands off my body, pro-choice democrats who believe the decisions should be made between patients and their doctors, and there should be privacy about health information? i pray to god they stand up and start speaking saningty to these -- sanity the these lunatics in their party. [laughter] >> and, sean, i can see you're ready to go on this, but i have to talk about a what's going on in california. let's put up the cdc new guidelines for schools in the fall because it's, you know, what the cdc is now saying is that in of person instruction in the fall 2021 is a priority. masks should be worn by anyone if not vaccinated, 3 feet of instance between students, implement layered prevention strategies. the thing is, in california, sean, they're saying we're still going to wear the masks. what do you say to that? >> i think that's stupid.

first off -- also you didn't mention this, if they're 2 years old, 2-year-olds and up have to wear masks. i've had eight 2-year-olds. they can't keep a mask on. how dumb is this recommendation, right? listen, when kids wear masks, there's a lot of germ on the mask, and they start to inhale co2. it's really not healthy for them. and we also know they're at a very low risk of getting ill from coronavirus or dying from it. so i think this is an idiotic policy. i think this is a play to the teachers unions in california that want these kinds of policies in place. but going back to going door to door, i don't like anybody coming to my house. if you're selling religion or encyclopedias, i don't want to see you. girl scout cookies, i'll take those people, but i wonder how do you know whether i have one or not? is there a list, number one, but number two, who's organized you?

this is a george soros organized group that is a paying people to get vaccinated? i have real concerns about the privacy of this, and as i mentioned, the every as cat city of this very policy of going to people's homes. let's -- >> and, tammy, how would you -- i want you to take a listen to this next sound bite because how would you like to have a company that forces you to get a vaccine. take a listen. >> i do think it's time to start mandating vaccinings. and i think that private industry and private organizations will do that. 75 million adults have chosen not to yet vaccinated, and that choice has consequences. now, we can't force you to take a jab in the arm, but there are many jobs perhaps that can prevent you from working. >> tammy, we have a worker shortage as it is right now. can you imagine this? >> yes. well, see, and that's true. the federal government can't mandate it, private companies could, i suppose, try. right now, of course, these

vaccines are all -- none of them are approved by the fda, so i think you would see legal issues, you would see lawsuits. they're still experimental. eventually they will be approved in some fashion, but i think that you going to see -- there's some stories i'm hearing anecdotally where there's these big plans to shut out people who don't get vaccinated. but the numbers of people who aren't vaccinated are too large to actually implement the plan to keep people out. i think it's going to be a real can of worms. we should also -- also, the federal government has not passed any liability protections yet. that's another thing that the republicans weren't -- did not do when it came to the issue of liability for restaurants and others. so i think that's going to come up as well. >> still early in all of this. thanks, everybody. coming up on "the big saturday show," anti-trump lawyer michael avenatti was once a media darling, appearing on cable news hundreds of times. now the media ace changing its

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♪♪ everybody was dancing to the jailhouse rock ♪♪ >> welcome back to "the big saturday show." it's easy to call it a fall from grace for michael avenatti, but it doesn't begin to describe the exalted plateau on which some other media outlets placed the now-convicted felon. >> you got lucky tonight. we're back with attorney michael avenatti. he's the main player sitting beside me right now, i'm not going to let you cheat. you have to guess. a hint, his name is michael avenatti. [laughter] >> look, i think you're doing a hell of a job. i don't think you're in this for

the money. >> to me, you're like the holy spirit. >> msnbc in particular treated michael avenatti like he was dipped in holy water. but they were conspicuously silent once his true self was revaled. on the day that -- revealed. on the day that avenatti was sentenced, msnbc dedicated a whopping 120 seconds of coverage. while the tone was largely anything to see here, folks, at least some in the media are issuing something of a mea culpa. >> we had some very -- he had some very big financial problems. he had a big win in a lawsuit that then was reversed is maybe he needed the money and went about getting it the wrong way. >> and maybe we went about covering him the wrong way. >> i wouldn't say we -- [laughter] >> it's a big tent. >> yes, it is.

>> so, sean, i have to ask you, you're a republican. you've spent some time in public office. you were in congress. did you get that kind of love from the mainstream media? >> yeah, no one ever compared me to the holy spirit, charlie, not one. >> oh, come on. >> listen, they're actually quite mean to me, as you can only imagine. but here's the story, right? the media was blind with rage at donald trump that he won the election and then he actually had the gall to implement what he had talked about on the campaign trail. so michael avenatti's out there attacking trump fearlessly with his porn star client, right? and they were blind to the fact that he was a slimy, scummy lawyer that anyone could see. that's from a recovering lawyer myself. you could see this guy coming a mile away, and he's not trustworthy. but the media didn't care because they hated trump too much. >> yeah. it's remarkable how much trump derangement syndrome really did affect everybody's judgment.

alicia, you're a good, honest, straightforward reporter. [laughter] how did you sort of resist -- [laughter] how were you able to resist the siren song of just falling completely in love with michael avenatti and throwing all of your credibility away to express your undying love for this new deity? >> right. it was really hard not to fawn all over him, i'll put that out there first. but all joking aside, i think the person who came out looking the best in all this is jamie lax, correspondent. to his point, the media did not cover this way it needed to be covered. it wasn't coverage. it was, finally, the holy spirit is here. look, there's somebody who's going to stand up to president trump, and is we all get to benefit because he also gives great sound bites, and there we go. he made a very solid point, and

it was pushed back on immediately. there is a danger there when you're fawning over someone so much. but as a reporter, i mean, i don't know, whenever there's someone who's willing to criticize their own, i'll listen even more closely. i'll listen to a republican criticize a republican for what they have to say later, same with democrats and those in the media as well. >> absolutely. and, you know, it's also, you know, more interesting if you do that as opposed to watching this love fest on msnbc and cnn. it's kind of disgusting. e find it sort of hard to watch. but, you know, and, of course, tammy, it's so easy to -- we've had a lot of fun with this, and it's been fun dunking on people like brian seltzer on cnn for all this nonsense. but there is a serious eshoo here. and it wasn't just the media that was led around by the nose by michael avenatti. you had the senate judiciary committee that went all in on the most despicable claims that

avenatti was pressing against now-sitting justice brett kavanaugh. you know, what -- will they, will senate democrats ever pay a price for this kind of -- their willingness to run off with anybody who slimes their enemy? >> well, no, obviously not. and i think what the larger story is here, charlie, is that they seem to have liked avenatti in part because they recognized him. we tend to see ourselves -- [laughter] really, and we all do it in some ways. it's a sort of projection when it comes to your sense of self and they yo -- you see yourself in a person, you understand them, you can relate to them. and i think that speaks volumes about the democrats and about the reporters who have tone this. but i also think that the big losers are the millions of americans who were led astray by this all the time by media as they talked about mueller, as

they talked about avenue gnat9 de, as they talked about a whole -- hillary clinton, is that they are lied to by this attitude. and they fall for it. and so, you know, hope any we know of course many liberals watch fox. people want real information and both sides, but the fact is the american people are the big losers when you've got really this fraud. they accused trump of maybe starting a reality show in the white house, and look who was starting the reality show, it was legacy media from the beginning. >> exactly. exactly. and the charge for all people today is to look out along, around the landscape today and determine what is the michael a avenatti of today that we're going to be talking about in two years from now. straight ahead, caitlyn jenner changes, changes his/her tune on trans athletes in sports. we'll take you back to cpac where she's making news next. ♪♪ no shoes, no shirt, no

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ask your healthcare provider about rybelsus® today. ♪ we're coming to america. ♪ they're coming to america ♪♪ >> welcome back to "the big saturday show." crime rising in liberal-run cities, and fox news' own lawrence jones spoke about it just moments ago at cpac. >> i went across the country sitting with families as they were making funeral arrangements. one girl shot 2 years old, one boy shot, it was over and over that i experienced these stories. kids can no longer play on the playgrounds because there's needles on the playground. in the meantime, many of the pundit class said, listen, they're just liberal cities. just let it happen.

they built this mess, let it happen. and i said i will not. >> let's bring in lawrence jones not to only spoke at c pack, he had a -- cpac, he had a huge interview with kate lin general. >> hi there, my friend. -- caitlyn jenner. >> cpac is a place where the conservatives meet up, it's where stars are born and their careers can be you should are ared. the -- crushed. the point is to push people that want to get in the movement on where they stand on issues and if they can answer. earlier i talked with caitlyn jenner. this is what she had to say. when it comes to the biological deferences, they want to know -- differences, they want to know where do you stand. and a simple web site statement, they want the hear you on the record. >> really? >> so for the last time, where do you stand on it? >> the only way you have to take each individual case and do it.

what i don't want -- >> yeah. >> -- is, because you keep going on this one, what i don't want is some 14, 15-year-old kid in high school who, you know, all of a sudden decides, oh, my god, i'm trans z and i'm going to go play women's sports. >> right, right. >> that doesn't work. but we have trans people who have been dealing with this issue since they were 4, 5, 6 years old. they've grown up, done biologically all the right stuff. they've lived their entire lives as a female, they should be able to be able to compete. there's no advantage, no nothing. >> i think most people would say that's a flip-flop on the issue, but that full interview will be available on fox nation tonight. and tomorrow night i'll be talking with the former president of the united states, donald trump. for people that are already subscribed to fox nation, they will be able to watch that

tomorrow exclusively, and then it will leave the site, and it will be on "fox & friends" monday morning. a alicia, i'm going to send it back to you guys in new york. >> lawrence jones, the busiest man in america right now, thank you so much. [laughter] appreciate it. sean, i want to bin with you, and i'd like -- begin with you, and i'd like to hit on what caitlyn jenner said about trans athletes and trans students because she also said that these are individual cases. but as you know, there are policies being created around the country based on these individual cases. >> yeah. first off, i'm going to go watch lawrence's speech. it looked really great and what a great message. i'm going to go back and watch that on fox nation. to your question, caitlyn jenner's learning the dark art of politics very quickly. say it one day when it works, but say something else once you're polled. i think what americans are seeing is there's something authentic about someone just

telling me what you think. when i was on the campaign trail, i could say things that people disagreed with me on, but they wanted me to be awe tent thisically -- authentically me. they didn't want me to lie to them. i look at this, if you're genetically a male, i don't care if you are trans at 4, 5 or 18, if you're genetically male and you compete against girls, it's unfair. let's preserve female sports for genetically little girls who were at one point males that are now -- or females that are now males. got that get that right, sorry. >> no, i understand. charlie. >> yeah. you know, caitlyn jenner made, the flip-flop may not be the greatest politician on earth, but at the end of the day, she believes, is pro-police, pro-border and understands that it's insane for biological males to compete if against girls in girls' sports x. that is a

tremendous improvement over many politicians, probably most politicians running for office or currently in office in california. >> and, tammy, tammy, also i just have one question for you because running for office in california is very different. oh, sorry, sean. tammy's not available right now. sean? but with, actually, i want to talk about the politics of this just a little bit more because running in california is a very different thing than running in the state where you're from. >> it is. you have much more liberal voters and politics. in wisconsin, we're a purple state with a conservative base. but again, as charlie pointed out, very conservative on a lot of these issues that i think will resonate with a lot of voters. but they do want consistency, and you can't split the baby and say when you you're older, you

get one standard, and when you're younger, you get a different standard. that just doesn't pass the smell test. again, if you're more authentic and truthful, you're going to be better off. they can forgive you for not agreeing with you on everything and still vote for you. >> and, charlie, mine, you kind of brought9 this up -- i mean, you kind of brought this up a little bit. as caitlyn jenner's running, this isn't just going to be the issue for her, especially in this races in california. this race in california. >> no, i think you're exactly right, alicia. and when you look at the panoply of issues that are motivating people right now -- and, again, when you're talking about the skyrocketing crime rate, you're talking about the crisis at the border, you're talking about people, parents who are terrified of what's happening to their kids in schools whether it's, you know, the looming future lockdowns or it's some of the stuff that they're getting taught, those are really

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♪♪ >> hey, everybody. welcome back to "the big saturday show." a video of a woman trekking through a flooded new york city subway station during a major storm this week is going viral on social media, and congresswoman alexandria

ocasio-cortez is blaming climate change. she tweeted, quote: the green new deal, which is a blueprint to create millions of good jobs, rebuild the infrastructure and protect vulnerable communities, is not realistic. instead, we do the adult thing which is to take orders from fossil fuel execs and make you swim to work. oh, good gravy, aoc. welcome back, tammy. i'm glad we can see your lovely face. i want to go to you first. >> thank you. >> i know you spent a lot of time in california, but you also live in new york. water usually flows downhill into places like a subway. is the subway flooding when a tropical storm comes through new york evidence of climate change or global warming? >> no, i think it's evidence of water. [laughter] and, you know, a storm. and we, of course, we saw that with sandy. now, i was not in new york during sandy, but, you know, this is a very -- you know, weather happens. this is one of big differences between california and new york. i never experienced it even

raining during the summertime. this is, you know, the desert. but new york actually has weather systems, different ones almost, it seems like, on different parts of the island. but this is, of course, this is what diminishes for people who take climate change seriously and want to make sure that the planet stays healthy and alive and good like we all do, this diminishes the importance of the issue. whatever they grab at something with, everything is a possible, you know, excuse to move ahead their agenda. it cheapens it. it's a horrible dynamic for serious issues for people. there's a point where the democrats and the left have got to say, you know, we do care about these issues. they're not getting anything done. in fact, they're making our issues worse. and it feels like grifting to a lot of people, and i think that's what we've got here. so it's a shame and, of course, it has nothing to do with climate change and people are now laughing at serious issues because the left have used them

so much. >> 100%, tammy. on tucker carlson tonight -- or today, actually, on fox nation, he has steven -- steve koonin, and he challenges the theory of climate change. take a look at that and, alicia, i want your response after we play the video. >> the idea that human behavior is causing more extreme weather, droughts, hurricanes, you're smiling. >> it's a fiction of the media and the politicians who would like to promote that notion. there are no detectable human influences on hurricanes over almost a century. and the warmest temperatures have not gone up in the last 60 years. and it's very difficult to untangle or discern human effects in extreme weather. >> he's a physicist, alicia. what do you say to his counterpoint to what democrats are saying on twitter, facebook and on the house floor? >> some inconvenient science there for you. i think it's very easy for

people to take the tweet and the video that was put up by representative ocasio-cortez and run with it without any real information. this seems like it's a desperate attempt -- and this happens on both sides really, a desperate attempt to point to evidence that doesn't really point to anything other than what tammy said, water. the weather9 is not climate change. it's weather. to the physicist's point, and i listened to that interview, we're talking about weather patterns. we're talking about data. some of it changes because it's human behavior, but some of it doesn't. and it's way more complicated than to be able to point to one video of some flooding in a subway and say, well, there you go. we should spend on the between new deal. >> charlie, i want to get your take because joe biden has been attacking american oil and gas whether it's leases or pipelines. he's going to tax them. but he's also, because gas prices are rising, he said,

listen, we want opec to produce more oil as he's shutting down american oil and gas. does this make any sense? >> no, it makes no sense whatsoever. and it's, it's it's insane. and, of course, his flip-flop on trying to get opec to produce more oil has everything to do with the fact that that he's paying a price, a political price, for the fact that gas prices have doubled under the, during the, whatever, six, seven months that he's been in the white house. and i would urge everyone to go out and read dr. coonen -- koonin's book, "unsettled." he worked as a physicist in the obama administration. he's not some right-wing conservative. he's not anti-science or anything like that. he's a very -- he makes are rational, calm, thoughtful arguments and, basically, his point is that politicians like aoc and many -- and joe biden and a lot of others and barack obama, he doesn't call anybody out by name, but they take these

issues, and they hijack them as literally there is no catastrophe including a massive storm in new york city that politicians won't try to politicize to use towards their ends. and the other thing i would urge people to remember, for every single solution that people like aoc and joe biden come up with to fix these catastrophes that they claim are caused by global warming, find one solution that they offer that doesn't mean more power accruing to them or more money going to government coffers. you cannot find a single example. >> 100%, charlie. and, by the way, the green new deal sends jobs and dollars to countries that actually don't like us very much have. keep the money and dollars right here in america with american energy and gas. great discussion, you guys. still ahead, we have a pair of wild stories.

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during festival in michigan as the magic carpet ride spins out of control, a dozen bystanders race over. fortunately, no one was hurt and in san antonio, a driving range turning into a nightmare as a teen is knocked off his feet when his gospel was instantly struck by lightning. both of these scared the daylights out of me because we finally take our mascot and go out and have fun and things start falling apart and like me strikes a golf ball. i don't know, are you a top golf guy. >> did your parents tell you not to golf in the race? this is a great video, get out of the rain don't golf when there's lightning. got it hit the golf ball and not him. >> exactly. charlie, you are more of a carnival ride, that didn't look right. >> i'm a big lever, you stay off all carnival rides and roller coasters.

we have instincts, kind of like bungee jumping from god made us with instinct not to jump off a cliff, probably wise to stick with those instincts but the golf ball video is the most amazing, it looks like the scene and caddy shack and a good reminder -- do not mess with god. >> do not mess with god. [laughter] when you saw those videos, what did you think? >> we've got a magic carpet ride going haywire, it means the democrats are in charge. [laughter] that's all i know. >> a verbal warning. >> magic carpets are magic. who knew? but you are at cpap, i should have expected that. i hope you are having a wonderful time. so big, it exploded. [laughter] it exploded the electricity, i want to confirm that. >> that's what happened, i gotcha. true. that does it for us, we will see you back here tomorrow 5:00 p.m. eastern for the big sunday show.

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