change space commerce and the way we think about it. i'm he delighted to have had a chance to share this historic moment with all of you. we're coming to the end of peed ya buzz. thank you for watch -- media buzz. thank you for watching. we'll be back next sunday. we'll pick up the coverage with fox news on this historic day, successful flight of the virgin galactic. arthel: a historic step on the road to private commercial space travel, virgin galactic's ceo richard branson and five company employees landing minutes ago after blasting off from new mexico aboard branson's own rocket plane. the you crew briefly leaving the earth's atmosphere, making branson the first billionaire in space, beating amazon and blue origin founder jeff bezos by nine days. well low, welcome to -- hello, welcome to "fox news live." i'm arthel neville a. hi, eric. eric: good morning, i'm eric shawn. thanks for being with us.

man, oh, man he makes it look so easy. branson and his crew now back on of planet earth after a near picture perfect landing. he is expected to speak any moment now. we will of course bring you his remarks when he steps up to the microphones in new mexico. virgin galactic plans to offer private flights to space beginning of next year. jeff paul live at the site just miles from the launch pad and where they landed. man, jeff, what an exciting, historic day this has been. what was it like? >> eric, you can probably hear a celebratory mood here in truth or consequences, new mexico, a very hot day but also a very exciting one. years and years of work finally paying off for require ingalactic owner, richard branson, getting to that milestone, getting to space after working at it for so long. to of day started a little rocky with a 90 minute delay due to

weather what happened overnight but that was really the only hiccup in the operation. everything else went at planned. you see the plane taking off, carrying that space rocket up to 50,000 feet which at one point then will then release that rocket where it shot straight up into the air. you hear a lot of people on the ground cheer as they saw the exhaust stream from the rocket. it got up past the 50-mile mark, what's considered space by u.s. standards. the live feed was hard to see but you could see the crew in there floating around. after a few minutes, they headed back down t. it was sort of surreal to think that in the matter of 90 minutes we watched richard branson and crew come out here, get on an suv, go out to the plane, take off, get to space, and then come back in 90 minutes and everything went safe and some people have asked what makes this different.

because virgin galactic has sent people to the same mark. i think the big difference here is that you've got the owner founder of a company, a billionaire, putting his life sort of on the line, taking the risk, going to space and then coming back down safely. to sort of show the people who are thinking about getting into space tourism that not only is it possible but it's safe and that he did it himself and so far, 600 people have signed up for tickets to do something like this at a tune of a quarter million dollars. so there's definitely the interest there. and then you have billionaire jeff bezos who nine days from now will be doing something similar for his company. blue origin. so a historic day, you huge step towards space tourism and the future. eric: can you explain, bay joes is more like -- bezos is more like a rocket, we have the typical like apollo and mercury. can you explain the unique plane, how high it goes up, then

it boosts up to 53 miles into space, then you have four minutes or so of weightlessness. you how does this thing work? >> so, it look almost like a double plane. twin fuselage plane and in the middle of the double looking plane you've got the bss unity, that is the space plane as they call it. it is kind of a mixture between a rocket and a plane. so once that plane takes off, it is sort of giving that space plane the boost into the air a it needs. it's not doing anything until it hits the 50,000 mark. once they they get the all go, they release the space plane, the bss unity and then it shoots straight up, the rocket shoots straight up and the idea is to get above 50 miles above the new mexico desert where they feel the weightlessness. it lasts about 15 minutes once they're up there. it lands like what you see with a space shuttle or a plane, just

down on its wheels and that's what we saw, a perfectly safe landing. eric: it's remarkable when we see the video of him. it looks like an executive jet. this is considered a test flight. there are a couple more before they will accept paying passengers. what else can they achieve with this, besides giving rich folks a thrill ride. >> as we look back historically with with any technology, whether an iphone or commercial airplane, things like that start expensive and as the private sector gets involved and more competition comes in and streamlines things, it makes it cheaper, more people get involved and there's a supply and demand. and so i think that will sort of -- we could see that in the few churr, especially when -- in the future, especially when you have competitors like elon musk and jeff bezos that are dumping

their fortunes into something like this, he depending on what the future could bring. there's the environmental aspect, when you talk to people who have been to space and looked back down on the planet earth from a distance, which not many people get to say they have, it gives you an appreciation for what we have down here. this could start a bigger conversation about the environment and just the future of this planet. eric: it is just remarkable. we're awaiting branson, the historic, courageous innovator and billionaire, 71 years old. he will be making remarks. we'll bring that to you live, of course. jeff paul, on the ground in new mexico. thank you. get your reservation in. keep your tray table in the upright position and follow all instructions. man, wow. arthel: wow is right. for more on this historic virgin galactic space flight, we're going to bring in former nassau

astronaut, tom jones. i want to remind everybody about your extraordinary accomplishments. you completed four space shuttle mission, spent 53 days, 48 minutes in space. you helped build the international space station, you completed three space walks totaling 19 hours at the iss. first in general terms, your reaction to richard branson's trip today. what do you think of the idea? >> well, it's a great step forward, arthel. thanks for having me on to talk about this exciting day. it's a great step forward. it's the opening of the door to space tourism and that's a new expansion of the economy in space. we go from communication satellites and weather satellites and transmitting phone calls through space, now we're opening up the doors to tourism. there have been eight tourists to visit the international space station but because of the suborbital venture with virgin galactic, the trip is shorter but it's cheaper. it opens access to a wider population of prospective spaces travelers.

i think this company will go forward within the year to fly passengers. we have jeff bezos competing for the same business and the orbital tourism market will open up where spacex who has a space capsule, boeing will have one, they'll fly tourists to hotels in space, as well as the international space station. it's really exciting. arthel: in technical terms, will either commercial flight, richard branson's or of jeff bezos, will they be getting into space and does that matter, can the billionaire battle have a positive impact on how we view the environment, for instance? >> i think you're onto something there because when you get the perspective of looking back at the earth from orbital space or suborbital space, the cannon ball shot that we saw today, straight up, straight down, you see the curvature of the earth, black sky above, you're far above the clouds and you're in a vacuum but you get to look back at our home planet and that's a

wonderful sight. it's a way to become inspired about our space ship earth and all of us being passengers on it and in fact we're not just along for the ride. we've got to pilot it in the right direction. so that environmental consciousness i think is valuable and the more people that go into space, the more we want to push the boundaries of getting far out of the frontiering back to the moon, to nearby asteroids and eventually to mars. arthel: keeping in mind that branson's was a test flight with hopes of bringing other passengers, paying passengers on-board in maybe the next year, you how difficult was it to get to this point today? >> it was a lot harder than they thought at the beginning because space ship one, same kind of craft, a smaller space ship one is in the smithsonian now, it flew the first suborbital flight to space in 2004 and within five years people expected to see suborbital tourism taking place. it's been 17 years almost to take make it a reality a.

had a tragic accident in 2013, 2014, when the same kind of craft that we saw fly today broke up because of a pilot and design error on that virgin galactic test flight. so it's still got risks. it's still quite an adventure and it's quite expensive to get this service started but the prices will come down thanks to competition and i think branson will see his investment pay off. arthel: branson right now, they are on the tar a mack, celebrating -- tarmac, they are celebrating with the family. i know this is a dream for branson when he was a child, maybe not so young as though kids are right now, his kids. but listen, he has to be feeling an incredible weight off of his shoulders, not alone, set aside the great accomplishment that he has now witnessed for the world. we were all watching this and he's going to speak in a second but once they crank up his

audio, i'll take that. for now, there he is, celebrating. it was fan fair and it should -- fan fare and it should be. was there a doubt about the billionaire race to space or is any spotlight on space a good thing. >> it's a good thing we're talking more about space and it's in people's consciousness. it becomes part of their lives, part of their futures. today you can take a vacation to an antarctica. i think within 20 years you can take a vacation to space at the same price point. it's going to be dropping thanks to competition. it's happening in america. there's no other country in the world that is putting private passengers into space on a private venture, a company funded by investment and by the vision of branson in this case, same with bezos and others to follow like spacex with elon musk. so it's happening here because we have the fertile environment for that kind of innovation and entrepreneurship and i think that's exciting and i hope we'll

continue to keep the edge in the commercial space as we have the edge in exploration. we sent our robots around the solar system. we should keep pressing the edge of what's known and unknown in space and keep america at the forefront of that activity. arthel: that's because america is the best. have you spoken with richard branson or jeff bezos? would you like to. >> i would loving to chat with both -- love to chat with both of them. i saw bezos give a talk about his dreams for space flight. i haven't met branson yet. i respect bezos' point of view. he wants to make the transportation system that allows people to generate their own futures in space. and so he wants to make earth very much a protected environment where he moves all the heavy and dirty industry off into space and leaves the park down here for all of us to enjoy an that's a vision i think i can get behind. arthel: finally, i know it's nothing of compared to what you have done but would you like to

take a commercial flight to space? >> oh, yeah. i was a pilot in the air force and then flew on space shuttler -- shuttle for times for nasa. i would be up for it. i have to be able to take my wife with me and she's the one i have to convince now. arthel: well, i think you can. i don't know. i think you can. >> cross your fingers. arthel: okay. i'll cross my fingers for you. tom jones, thank you so much for joining us. really enjoyed talking to you. thank you. >> you're welcome. arthel: eric. eric: out of this world. that it is. back here on planet earth to afghanistan now where the withdrawal of u.s. troops from america's longest war is moving ahead of schedule. president biden says that we will be out of that country by august 31st, not the original deadline of september 11th. afghan soldiers who are at bagram air force base, they say

they're disappointed at the military's hasty exit from the base last week and there are fear that's the taliban could soon take over the nation after we gave so much in our blood and treasure to fight radical islamic terrorism. greg palkot is live in kabul with the latest. >> reporter: hi, eric. on that deserted base in a moment. let's look at the intensifying clashes involving the taliban and afghan government forces across the country, something like two-thirds of the country is being contested by these two sides. we heard new reports today about the strategic southern city of kandahar, the latest flash point, fighters entering the city, foreign diplomats are being evacuated, triggered it's believed by the exit of u.s.

troops. we went to the scene of the big hest exit today. take a look. >> you're looking at the most potent symbol of the american troop withdrawal from afghanistan. this is the main sprawling bagram air base, 40 miles north of kabul, used to be where all of the american military activity came from in this region. now, all that's left is a skeleton afghan workforce and a whole bunch of american hand me downs and leftovers. >> off camera, afghan soldiers did say they were surprised by the quick u.s. pullout from bagram and were prepared to take over and were still not prepared to take over the complex facility. it's a base we've been to, eric, many times over the last 20 years, tens of thousands of service members have passed through there at any given time. the runways were busier than the most congested airports you could imagine. now, overnight, barely any

activity. eric, the afghan government said they will rededicate this base to counter terrorism activities but seeing it there today, still as it was today, seems more like a monument to america pulling out of this ongoing conflict. back to you. eric: yeah. very eerie. greg palkot live in kabul afghanistan. thank you. in a few minutes we'll speak with general jack keane, he will be here to analyze the biden administration's withdrawal and what he thinks is next for afghanistan. arthel: in florida, the death toll in the condo collapse is now 90 after four more victims were recovered today. search crews continue sifting through the rubble where at least 31 others are still missing. charles watson live at surfside now. charles. >> reporter: hi, arthel. first responders have been working at the collapsed site behind me for 18 days. despite that, miami-dade officials say search and recovery efforts are more

intense than ever. as you mentioned, this morning we learned four more bodies were pulled from the collapse site, bringing the death toll to 90. there are 31 people who are potentially missing. as rescue crews navigate the site, they're using everything at their disposal, including heavy machinery and cameras to sift through the debris. crews are finding where the victims are in the rubble and finding personal items like photos an wedding rings and preserving those for the families. >> the work is still so delicate that we've even found unbroken wine bottles in the rubble and recovered them. we're also finding personal possession as small as rings which are also being returned to the site storage area, categorized, photographed, and saved for the families.

>> reporter: and arthel, this tragedy has really affected everyone in this community, including business owners who have lost business or been forced to shut down while the work continues at the collapse site. we spoke to an ice cream shop owner who despite struggling right now has found it in her heart to still help out in any way she can. >> someone in the community said the one thing we keep hearing at the community center is people want ice cream and i was like well, that's what i've been saying. let me bring the freezer. so instead i road my bike around and -- rode my bike around and gave to every corner, every intersection, there were florida highway patrol and police officers from all over the world or country. >> reporter: and arthel, we've heard from so many business owners like jessica who just want to help, despite taking a loss during covid and during this tragedy here in surfside. the good news is the small business administration is on the ground and trying to help

weaken some of the financial blow for a lot of these small businesses. arthel. arthel: jessica serving ice cream with love. charles watson live in surfside, florida. thanks, charles. eric. eric: well, former president trump set to take the stage at cpac in a few hours from now. what will he say? what will he predict? texas attorney general ken paxton just wrapped up his remarks. we're waiting for south dakota governor kristi noem to take the podium in a few moments. what they're saying about the future of the gop, coming up next right here on the fox news channel. d. how much money can liberty mutual save you? one! two! three! four! five! 72,807! 72,808... dollars.

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arthel: critics are turning up the heat president biden as the migrant crisis continues to put a strain on the nation's law enforcement. texas governor greg abbott calling out what he calls the government's absence at the border, despite customs and border patrol officials dealing with the crisis. jonathan serrie is live at the border with more. >> reporter: hi, arthel. you can see the u.s. border wall right behind me but it is incomplete as you take a look at our live aerial shot from the fox flight team drone, you can

see large gaps in the border wall which initiated construction during the trump administration and then abrupted halted when president biden took office. it's very easy for migrants to simply walk around and that's what appeared to happen this morning. a group of migrants obviously wanting to avoid capture, not turning themselves in to authorities but instead fleeing them. border patrol rapidly moved into the area. we saw them search through the brush and then take a look at this video that we shot earlier in the day. the border patrol discovered fresh tracks in a wide open field from these migrants but the migrants were able to reach a nearby highway where they quickly disappeared into the community. texas authorities are not just concerned about foot chases. here's what governor greg abbott learned from his saturday meeting with sheriffs of counties along the border. >> another concern raised by i think literally everybody that i've heard from so far is a

massive increase in high speed chases and dangerous smuggling encounters. >> reporter: saturday, troopers with the texas department of public safety engaged in a high speed chase with a suspected human smuggler who crashed into one car before losing control of his vehicle and striking a pole. authorities say the driver was care quick seven undocumented migrants in his relatively small car, a total of eight people crammed in the vehicle. the driver was arrested. his passengers were turned over to the border patrol and eric and arthel, situations like this are unfolding every day here at america's southern border many back to you. arthel: jonathan serrie, we'll take it back here many thank you. eric. eric: arthel, live at the cpac convention in dallas, there is south dakota governor kristi noem, she has taken the stage, addressing the gathering of conservatives. the south dakota govern for, one

of several potential names being mentioned as a possible republican presidential candidate. but in just a few hours from now, we will hear from former president trump. he will be back on that stage that has so often in the past embraced him. we're also waiting to learn whether conservatives at that gathering will want to put their faith behind him for another run for the white house or if it's time for a new face like nomes or mike pompeo or many others to lead the republican party. matt schlapp joins us now. what do you expect to hear from the former president when he takes the stage. >> just like your coverage, is pregnant with the idea of the run for president again. we've only had one president that was separated by a loss and got a second term. it would be history. i think what we'll hear from president trump is an all-out assault on the policies that are coming out of the biden administration, the fact that

we're no longer energy independent, the fact that russia can build pipelines but we can't build pipelines, an attack on critical race theory, an attack on the idea that schools should still be closed and skids should be in masks and the idea that a shutdown could happen again with a new variant. i think he's going to hit that head-on. i think he's going to talk about the midterms. take it back to the house and the senate. republicans feel very bouyant. this room in here at cpac, they feel very, very confident that the american people can now finally see that the democratic party is not a moderate party but a full-on socialist party. eric: what are they saying about that? biden, others would say he's more moderate, not one of the progressives like aoc and the others. break it down from what you hear from the people attending. >> i would say joe biden is dancing to aoc's tune. i don't know if he wants to dance to that tune but the biden administration is basically making the socialist base of their party happy on every

major issue. as a matter of fact, as i'm sitting here now, i can't think of an issue, maybe you can think of one, where they've been moderate. they've been progressive socialists all the way down the line and the people across the country can see it. think about this, the parties matter less now. aoc and her socialist views she's an important voice, not only one, bernie sanders, elizabeth warren, and when it comes to the other side, conservatives and america first voters they're what are animating things. they're very against the whole idea that america should be socialist, that americans should feel ashamed for their history, should no longer stand for the flag. these socialists are trying to rip america apart while joe biden says i'm trying to unite america. you can't unite america if you're literally splitting america apart by whether you're gay or straight or what color of the rainbow you are. this has to end. if we're going to come together, it means that everybody is treated equally including people that aren't people of color and right now there's like this

warfare going on across the country about whether or not america is worth cabbing. we think it is and we're tired of them trying to rip us apart. eric: do you think you'll hear that, the themes you just delved into, do you think you'll hear that from the former president? >> i do. i think that's what the moment is in this country, this idea that if you have conservative values, you could get canceled on social media and we joined the lawsuit, president trump's lawsuit against big tech e cpac joined that. if you are a white person that somehow you're inherently racist and if you're somebody whose family has been in the country for many generations, there's something wrong with me because we have this birth definite defect ofslavery. the true american story is overcoming the him morality and -- immorality and still leading the world with human rights and

freedom. it's not just a conservative movement, it's an american movement. eric: the former president has continued to perpetuate the false claim that the election was stolen, critics blamed him for months for causing the devastating attack on our democracy, the heart of or democracy on the capitol. how does that continued narrative fit into this and how will that impact the future of the party if he continues of to say that. >> the problem with your question, eric, is it be lies the fact that we had more illegal ballots in the of last election than we ever had in our history because we stopped checking signatures. we should all agree we have to follow the laws. the states contravened the laws by not checking ballots. new york city they had over 100,000 ballots that mysteriously got into the count. you can't say illegal voting doesn't happen to a large extent and a then have over 100,000

illegal ballots be in the count in new york city. eric: but matt, not enough to tip the opinions presidential election. >> how many illegal -- i would like to ask this question. you seem to know so much. how much illegal ballots were in the count in 2020. i'll wait for your answer. eric: i don't have the answer off the top of my head. >> how do you know what the the impact would be on those illegal ballots. i'll wait for your answer. eric: because election officials across the country have said there was not massive fraud that would change the results of the election. >> brad raffensperger didn't check the signatures in violation of the law. you can say that brad raffensperger thinks that was fine but it was illegal. i'm not about relitigating 2020. i'm saying as we go into the midterms and into another presidential election i have a simple idea. follow the election laws. for democrat voters and for republican voters. if we're going to do more mail-in ballots we have to make

sure you're he legally on the list and have you to verify it through your signature. i think it's a very american idea. if we don't do that, we'll have chaos in our election system. people won't agree that the elections are sound. and our nation will further split apart. what i'm saying is a very, very common sense thing. eric: eric: and we -- i get cut off by the computer. i'd like to continue with this another time. >> i'd love to continue it. i think people need to know if facts. we have to start reclaiming things that aren't true. they they didn't check signatures on ballots. can't do that anymore. we don't know how big it was. it was big fluff to make a big impact in the important states that were decided by thousands of votes. eric: we'll see what election officials say if they find the fraud that is alleged to have occurred. >> they already found the fraud. eric: down in dallas. thank you. we'll be right back. i don't know. i think they look good, man.

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increase funding for local law enforcement during tomorrow's meeting that he's going to have. it is part of the nearly $2 trillion covid relief bill the president signed into law earlier this year. south carolina congresswoman nancy mace joins us now, she sits on the house oversight transportation and infrastructure committees. very good to have you. so president biden is pushing to use some of the funding to increase funding for local law enforcement, to increase community based policing. congresswoman, is this something take will get bipartisan support or will republicans find a way to box this allocation because it goes against their narrative that progressive democrats want to defund the police? >> well, i think it's really going to depend on where he wants the spending appropriated. if you look at the major democrat cities over the last year, homicides are up significantly. # hundred% -- arthel: i you poll guys --

apologize, i have to jump for a second and go to richard branson. branson. >> thank you for performing. we love -- hello. [laughter] >> where's his lovely wife. come up. come on there. right. [ applause ] >> he's had quite a month. their beautiful new baby will be born this month and this beautiful baby was born a couple of years ago. and thank you for letting him come with us. i would also like to thank my

wonderful, beautiful wife joan who is hopefully here somewhere. we've been lucky enough to have been together for -- where is she -- for 45 wonderful, wonderful years and we've been very blessed and we've got holly and sam here. our grandchildren. and pretty well everything, lots of friends. sadly, none from england. we'll get you out here one day. but love you lots, all of you. and just finally, i know i said it from the space shift but i want to say thank you, thank you, thank you, to every person who has believed in virgin galactic, the team who have worked so hard to make this dream come true. love you all. it's 17 years of painstaking work and the occasional horrible down but by and large ups with it and today was definitely the

biggest up. so thank you, all of you. love you all. [cheers and applause] >> so of the mission statement that i wrote inside my space suit was to turn the dream of space travel into a reality for my grandchildren, who are here, for your grandchildren, and for many people who are alive today. for everybody. and having flown to space, i can see even more clearly how virgin galactic is the space line for earth. we're here to make space more accessible to all and we want to turn the next generation of dreamers into the astronauts of today and tomorrow. we've all, us on this stage, have had the most extraordinary experience and we would love it if a number of you can have it too. and with that in mind, i have

some news. so today virgin galactic is thrilled to announce we partnered with amaze to open space for everyone. so if you go to amaze.com, i think flash space to enter, you have a chance to go to space. and every donation supports a charitable space for humanity and you'll be entered into the amaze sweepstakes for the chance to win not one, but two seats aboard one of the first commercial virgin galactic space flights. [cheers and applause] >> and with my willy wonka hat on, a guided tour given by yours truly and you promise lots of chocolate in the factory. i mean, the exciting thing about this is if enough people all over the world participate, it

just means we can keep on -- the charity can keep on doing tickets for people. so it's a lovely sort of self-propelling way of just trying to get lots of people who couldn't have otherwise afforded to go to space to go to space. so just imagine a world where people of all ages, all backgrounds from he anywhere of any gender, of any ethnicity, have equal access to space and they will in turn i think inspire us back here on earth. if you've ever had a dream, now is the time to make it come true. and i would just like to end by saying welcome to the dawn of a new space age. thank you. [cheers and applause] >> thank you. lovely. thank you. arthel: welcome to the dawn of a new space age. there he is. richard branson celebrating this new venture into space, commercial space flight. jeff paul is there live on the

ground and, jeff, if you would give me the scene, set the scene. is there a feeling of ex i'll raise that i think is -- exileration that i think is happening on the ground. part of this was indeed as some people have pointed out a pr stunt, so jeff took the answer -- richard, i should say, took the opportunity there to announce his sweepstakes that he's offering two seats up of on the first virgin galactic space ride, that's going to be happening in the next year or so. but by all accounts, astronauts and space enthusiasts alike, they have said any attention to commercial space travel is a good thing, gives an opportunity to focus on the environment as well and i know, eric, that you are an airplane enthusiast so

i'm sure you're excited about this as well. eric: yeah, i don't have 250 grand. 250 grand for a seat to go up there. arthel, would you go? look, i asked jeff earlier, is this just for rich people to have a thrill ride to go up and have weightlessness for four minutes or so. he said no, it can lead to a greater understanding of our about full planet, of the atmosphere and as well as finally eventually some think lead to commercialization and industries and a new world in space. you know, making the jet -- jetsons come true. do you think we'll get to that world? arthel: i think so. i was talking to tom of jones earlier in the show. he is all for it. he thinks commercial travel to space is a good thing and with jeff bezos doing this in nine days and then the competition goes on from there and the more access that you have, those of us like us and regular people i

should say -- not right now because it is very expensive. it is for the rich. however, eventually with more opportunity and more competition it will become accessible to people who are -- working class people like us who may be able to afford it eventually and tom jones is saying that here's a person that helped build the international space station, if he's okay with it, then i'm okay with it. he says the more people go up there, the more prior united nations we have -- appreciation we have for our planet and how delicate our earth is the earth environment is, so when you see this picture happening right now of richard branson getting his wings, his astronaut wings, then more people will get this opportunity. the more people get the opportunity to see the earth from that perspective, the more appreciation we have for the earth, for our environment and even if all of us don't get to go, the more people that do, they talk about it and share something that scientists have

been trying to share with us for centuries and when you hear it from your friends or people who know someone who knows someone as the champagne bubbles are flowing, then it becomes, again, more of a realistic conversation if you will. eric: and also this opens up also another era and way to travel because we haven't touched on that yet, arthel. there's been talk that you could travel from new york to japan in like, what, 30 minutes or so if you do this orbital type of airplane and this actually could be the new dawn of a new age of aerospace. could you imagine the wright brothers in kitty hawk when they flew that if had the they came back and saw the boeing 747 or saw one of the new airbuses today which are so commonplace for us to be able to travel. perhaps in the not too distant future, in our lifetimes we will be able to go to a space port

like the one if numbs mexico. -- new mexico. i wonder if 24 could do it out of lax or kennedy. take off, fly in space, get from europe to new york in 40 minutes or less or travel wherever you want to be around. i mean, that certainly seems to be one possibility of what this new technology which we witnessed today is opening up for humankind. arthel: if i could jump in, eric. i actually for the first time during this entire process just got goose bumps. i was watching richard branson put on his shoulders this indian american astronaut who went on this flight and i know her parents flew in from india to be there in new mexico to watch this amazing historic flight, commercial flight to space. it's a test flight but nonetheless it's an exciting test flight and jeff paul is there on the ground in new mexico. so jeff, are the people there just through the moon in terms of their excitement level?

>> reporter: certainly through the atmosphere, just like richard branson could say that he has done now. arthel, you know what? this is just an incredible moment. not only because somebody like richard branson made it to space but because he made it to space and back safely and if a matter of 90 minutes. you really think about that, how quickly that somebody could leave earth and then experience weightlessness see the planet as they've never seen it before and come back down and be greeted by his family and just walk around. it's incredible to think about that, to think about how space travel started. this moment that took hours and hours and hours and days and sometimes people won't come back for quite a while and this is such a quick trip. there was a moment where some people saw this space flight take off, it was sort of anti-cry mack particular.

-- anti-climactic. they're expecting the blastoff, straight up into the air. that speaks to the technology. it didn't feel weird. it didn't feel moment. there wasn't a moment where a lot of us watching were scared. there's that moment where you see a space shuttle take off or the traditional rock he et that shoots straight -- rocket that shoots straight up, you're holding your breath had that it goes okay. this looked somewhat normal, like a plane taking off. i'm sure for the people on-board it felt totally different. on top of that you've got someone like richard branson who is pushing the limits. he said it truly felt like a childhood dream had come true. arthel: he said he wants that dream to come true eventually for his grandchildren and everyone else's grandchildren. so what a day we have experienced and the excitement continues. right now we're going to take a break. jeff paul, thank you.

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arthel: let's bring back south carolina congresswoman nancy mace. before we took that place, congresswoman, you were telling me that republicans can support president biden's wishes to spend part of his $1.9 trillion covid relief package to increase funding for police departments

around the country but it depends on you how the money is spent i believe is what you spent. what do you mean by that? >> we're going there. republicans by and large, we support funding of law enforcement. but i know that i personally -- i look at the democrat-run cities all over the country who defunded the police station over the last year, homicides are up significantly over the last year in democrat run cities. arthel: we realize that. for the sake of the short time we had. i wanted to ask you. you said it depends on how the money is used. if you could give me specifics of what you would support. >> some example. you've got lori lightfoot in chicago, 108 shootings in chicago, she tried defunding the police and she is now begging the federal government for funding for this. we have to have incentives to ensure that the mayors in the cities are protecting our communities, are helping our police, give them the resource this need whether that's mental health counseling, better salaries and benefits, better

qualified candidates, all of these things are things that republicans support. what we don't support is defunding the police. for cities that are doing that, they've learned that there's a price to pay and that's a cost that's unfortunately human lives. arthel: it seems that the president feels the same way. he's saying that's what he wants to do, fund the police. on the senate side, does minority leader mcconnell and the gop in his chamber, do they want to work in earnest with the white house, to contain, the reduce the rampant crime and shootings that we've been witnessing ors is the feeling of anarchy on biden's watch a talking point that could work in favor of the republican as they aim to retake the house and the senate in next year's midterms? >> right. well, i haven't spoken to the senate minority leader on this. i know senator ken scott is a major champion and leader of criminal justice reform in the country and i hope he has the opportunity to do the work he's been trying to do for years now. that he's been agreat leader on

this. we can't he reward bad behavior of the cities. if you're defunding the police, we shouldn't reward you for doing that. these mayors have got to invest in their communities and our law enforcement to keep everybody safe. portland, or re-john,-car oregon, homicides are up 800%. minneapolis, crime was up 56%. we don't need to reward back actors. arthel: no doubt there needs to be something done and hopefully both parties can get together to fund policing. >> i hope so. arthel: to stop the crime rate in our country. thank you very much. we'll have you back again. thank you for your patience, representative nancy mace and that is going to do it for us for now. but we are back at 4:00 p.m. eastern right, eric? eric: we are. and we report from space to planet earth

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