tuesday. plus, don't miss kayleigh mcenany and myself on fox nation's all access live as we break down the biggest moment from the student action summit. sign up and use the code, fox nation, sign up for free. thanks for watching "fox news prime time." tucker carlson up next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." here's a story we've completely forgotten about because there are so many. just before last november's presidential election, two former army officers wrote an open letter to the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, men who still has the job. the letter became public, it was published on the left-wing blog called defense one and within minutes was all over the internet. the authors of the letter had a direct order from mark milley who strictly speaking did not

report from them. "if donald trump refuses to leave off as "the letter began "the united states military must remove him by force and you must give that order." you must remove the president by force. that's a little shocking, what country is this? even the usual powermad partisans in the news media began to wonder if that's a really good idea. slate.com of all places reminded its readers that no matter how orange donald trump might be, military coups generally turn out to be unwise for the pentagon had to go on the record as opposing it too. the rest of us could keep civilian control of our government and what a week that was paid within days the story just kind of receded. another weird footnote to a weird four years but if you paused for a second you had to wonder, where did that idea even come from? did two former u.s. military officers really just suggest removing the president of united states by force of arms? since when do american military officers talk like that or think

like that and do a lot of them have views like that? we push that consideration from our minds but we shouldn't have. now we know that mark milley himself is the sort of sin who considers military coups entirely within the realm of possibility. a new book written by reporters at "the washington post" who cover mark milley reveals the current chairman of the joints chief of staff is a legitimate extremist. he's the last person you would give power to if you could possibly help it. in the book, he describes donald trump in the millions of people who supported them as the moral equivalent of adolf hitler. thousands of trump supporter's peacefully gathered in washington for what they assumed was a constitutionally protected political rally, the kind we have had for hundreds of years, certainly after the election, mark milley lining them to the nazi party. he explained his advisors out loud were actually calls for. this is the gospel of the

fuehrer. those are quotes, think about that. your grandfather joined the u.s. military to go overseas to risk his life to fight in the nazis. now the head of the u.s. military calls you a nazi for having your grandfather's political views. what do you call that? even mind that mark milley is a man the media tells us is a deep intellectual, someone who reads books and stuff, not just wikipedia and yet this well read man of history is comparing nearly half of our country to adolf hitler and that would include the many hispanics in the rio grande valley who voted for donald trump, they agree with him on immigration. he's not just his guy with crackpot views, mark milley has control of nuclear weapons. are we okay with it? the people on tv are okay with it. >> you read what milley was doing which is obeying the constitution. it standing up to the oath that he and serving members have taken. i mean, that is what a general

does. >> general milley and his team in the military with the courage to stand up to realize that something was going horribly off the rails with the president of the united states. >> thank goodness general milley was there and other generals i think all saw this guy's flaws. his jaw dropped. there's no other way around it, maybe the guy was going to make darn sure that those guns were not used. >> you think of general milley and you think of someone who chooses every word with intention and is a student of history. and to use the words like nazi says a lot. >> tucker: he is a student of history. they are easy to impress over on cnn, make reference to nazis and you must be a highbrow grad school god, if you compare the enemy to nazis, you know you are a princeton guy. the problem is, he's a lot more

powerful than they are. according to "the washington post" account, the mark milley is the reason te thousands of american soldiers occupied the capital ahead of joe biden's inauguration. "we're going to put a ring of steel around the city and the nazis aren't getting in" referring to milley citizens. a ring of steel to rappel the qanon shaman and several senior citizens from orlando. this is guy who is paid to assess threats. what country poses a threat to the united states? put them in order. if you think the qanon shaman is the same as the ss, maybe you are not so good at that. then he gave a speech out of the 1990s bruce willis, everything is going to be okay. we are going to have a peaceful transfer of power. we're going to land this plane safely, this is america, it's strong. the institutions are bending, but it won't break. in the end, no nazi attack ever came, much to mark milley's apparent disappointment. it wasn't dunkirk. he think that would be an

embarrassment to mark milley to give a speech like that and nothing happens. some guy dressed like chewbacca shows up but no, he was not embarrassed. in fact, he gave a speech, testimony to congress and a said apparently, not referring to himself that he understands white rage better than anyone. >> i do think it's important actually for those of us in uniform to be open-minded and be widely read. in the united states military academy is a university and it is important that we train and we understand. and i want to understand white rage, and i'm white, and i want to understand it. so what is it that caused thousands of people to assault this building and try to overturn the constitution of the united states of america? what caused that? i want to find that out and maintain an open mind and i do want to analyze it. it's important we understand that because our soldiers, marines and guardians, they come from the american people so it

is important that the leaders now and in the future do understand it. >> tucker: white rage, just a casual racial slur. these people have no self awareness. but he tells us he spent many hours reading robin d'angelo learning about white rage but that white rage never came. mark milley was not deterred by that. soon after the election he began informally planning with other military leaders, strategizing how they would block trump's order to use the military in a way they deemed dangerous or illegal." wait a second, pause here for a moment. as the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff the guy who is empowered by our constitution, our democracy to make this decision? now, he's not. he can't make them independently. if he disagrees he can resign but he can't make them independently. but he kept going. in early january nancy pelosi pressed for specifics for mark milley. she wanted to know what the generals had done to help her. she wanted to know if they were

doing things that were illegal, taking control of the military from civilian elected leaders. and mark milley didn't blush, he confirmed they had done just that. "ma'am" milley told nancy pelosi, i assure you we have checks and balances in the system." yeah, they are written into the constitution, according to the post, some of those checks and balances he referred to involved undermining the elected president's authority to choose the director of the cia. interesting, a lot of focus on the cia tells you what kind of power they have. when the president reportedly considering firing who runs the cia and replacing her in the closing days of his administration we now know that milley pressured the chief of staff not to do that, asked what the hell is going on here? would you guys doing? this is lunacy, not how the government should work. the chief should not be having

this conversation, he should leave if he can't keep his views to himself. that quote alone is grounds for mark milley's immediate firing from his job. no chairman of the joint chiefs has say over cia appointees. no one in the military does. they can't. talk about a threat to our system. and yet, "the washington post" thinks it's fine because the president at the time was talking about election fraud. inciting an insurrection. scary. we already know that milley had control of the military long before the election even took place. on february 29th of last year, the trump administration reached a deal with the taliban to end u.s. military involvement in the country after only 20 years. immediately, the pentagon led by mark milley conspired to kill the deal which they are not allowed to do under our constitution but they did it anyway. according to reporting by "the gray zone" with startling quickness and -- pentagon leadership exploited the

open-ended terms of the cease-fire to derail the implementation of the agreement." no informed person denies that have been, it did. mckenzie testified before congress to be determined by "conditions on the ground." meaning the decision will be made not by civilian leaders, but by the pentagon. again, threat to democracy, anyone? there it is. acting unilaterally the pentagon launched more than 30 drone attacks and eight night raids against the taliban and within weeks the peace deal was dead, they killed it. voters had no say in this. they operated completely independently. a little scarier and then the qanon shaman. the same justification that mark milley used later in late 2020 to overrule donald trump's order to pull out of afghanistan. milley was told the president was only possible to remove half of all forces there, not all. no one in the media seems concerned about any of this.

affect "the washington post" which supports authoritarianism is already published an op-ed saying that mark milley is a hero. there are nazis amongst us, you, therefore we need to get rid of the filibuster. follow that logic. they also trying to prove that mark milley smiled at michelle obama when joe biden was getting inaugurated. the question is, why is mark milley still in command of the u.s. military? this is not a small question. if what "the washington post" reported to reporting we need to deal with it now. the acting u.s. secretary of defense under the last administration and he joins us now. thanks much for coming on. first question, do you believe this reporting is accurate? >> great to be with you and based on the reporting and my experiences in the defense department with chairman millieg to be very accurate, and very unfortunate and tragic that the highest uniformed officer in the country would controvert his responsibility and possibly break the law because the

constitution and the federal statutes only allow the chairman on military affairs. he is no command authority whatsoever. >> tucker: because he was not elected by anyone. that is how our system works. power vested in the people who elected them. that is how democracy -- it's not that complicated. if he's trying to prevent you from getting the job, as it happens, that is so far outside what we call i guess democratic norms. i don't know why no one has said anything about it. >> you're totally right and i'm glad you're covering it because so few people have. look, the statutes are clear. he is responsible for advising the president and the secretary of defense on military affairs. if anyone else in that role contributed federal -- they would be removed promptly from that position, or he should resign but he wants to create and has created joint staff operation that is a pseudo-defense department all on

its own which he has hijacked to the authority of the secretary of defense and the president of the united states to execute as he sees fit and that is in contravention of the law. and he has become the very thing that he has lobbied against, which is one of the biggest political operatives in the united states defense department. he is now officially the cracking of the swamp >> tucker: i mean, i don't know where the liberals are. we used to have liberals in this country who believe in civilian control. i mean, this is an actual and grave threat to our system, a real one. i wonder, the quotes are hard to believe, that the chairman of the joints she would ever have thoughts like that, they are hysterical and childish but they are so disproportionate to the observed threat, you wonder if he is capable of making rational judgments. >> no, the courts exemplify someone who panics under pressure and who is pandering for his job. these are the same people in the media, if you remember when he walked across lafayette park

with president trump excoriated him here "the washington post" and cnn trashed mark milley to no end. these are the same people that are propping him up as the savior of america and the members of congress including nancy pelosi are asking him to break the law and do things that are not within his power during january 6th, just so they can continue the fake narrative about the insurrection and overreach the media has put on the political landscape now, and it's a shame that the chairman and joint chiefs of staff is the most highly politicized figure in the department of defense. >> tucker: it's not just a partisan concern. he's threatening the principles, the core principles upon which our entire system is founded, and i appreciate you confirming that a someone who is there. cash patel, thank you. >> thanks so much, tucker. >> tucker: we talked to a number of republicans who are running for congress in the next cycle. they promise to change the direction of the party. we are going to speak to another when in just a moment. a republican candidate who is

taking aim at the indoctrination, the race hate in our schools. she will tell us how she claims to stop at next.

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congressional delegation, 15th congressional district and a lot of people running in the republican primary. 11 primaries on august 3rd of this year. the winner will then compete in a special election in november to replace the former congressman. one candidate in the race came to our attention and it is ruth edmonds, the former president of the columbus naacp. she's also an ordained minister. one of the things she's running on us to stop racism in our schools come of all kinds. here's how she put it. >> i am a patriot, i love the united states. we are not perfect, never have been, but we are the greatest nation on the face of the earth. it's time to stop judging every white person as a villain and every brown person as a victim. we are one country. at one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. i'm ruth admin, and i approve this message. >> tucker: ruth edmonds joins us tonight, thank you so much

for coming on here that was a great ad, i don't like i've heard it put as clearly as you put it. why did you say that, why did you make that add? >> thank you first of all for having me on tonight. >> tucker: of course. >> i set up because it's the truth. caucasians are not villains and they are not oppressors, and brown skinned people are not victims and we are not oppressed. >> tucker: but you can't say that, whoa, whoa, whoa. >> yes, i can say that. i'm from the inner city of baltimore, maryland, raised by my grandmother who only had a fourth grade education, and yet, she taught me the principles and values and ethics of hard work and perseverance, and faith in god, and taking advantage of opportunities when they come and not allowing barriers to be excuses. yes, i can say that brown people

are not victims, because we are not. >> tucker: it sounds to me like your religious faith informs your view of that. >> absolutely. i make no excuses for having a biblical worldview, and i absolutely believe that this country was founded on a biblical worldview, endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights. among them are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. absolutely, and i think that it is terrible how there is an evil attack by the left to tear up who our country, what our country is and how we were founded, and we have to stand up and speak out against it at every opportunity that we can. we have to defend this great nation. >> tucker: if there were more people like you at the naacp i would send the money appeared what do they think of you? >> i don't know what they think of me and quite frankly, again,

it's the truth. i will say this, when i joined the columbus branch of the naacp in the late '80s, it was under a republican administration and it was there under that leadership that i realized that my values and by principles that i was raised with really aligned with the republican platform. and so, you know, faith, family, freedom. you know, those are the values that my grandmother gave to me and so it was just natural for me to align with that platform. >> tucker: your grandmother sounds like a great person. i appreciate you coming on. ruth edmonds, thank you so much. it was great to talk to you. >> thank you. >> tucker: so it's coming back, indoor mask mandates in one of the biggest cities in the country. you should know what's happening here. trace gallagher does and he's got the story for us now. >> if you're looking for a case study on how to generate

confusion, the l.a. county health department just gave us a step-by-step guide. here's the reason coronavirus cases in los angeles county are now above 1,000 for the seventh straight day, therefore everyone, including those fully vaccinated, once again have to wear a mask indoors. federal guidance is the exact opposite. cdc director rochelle walensky says vaccinated people are safe from the delta variant of the coronavirus and do not have to wear masks indoors. in fact, even when the l.a. county health department was issuing the mandate today it was simultaneously making its case and undermining its case. for example, the county says hospitalizations are now at 452. that's up from last week but the county goes on to say, quoting here, to date we have not had a patient admitted to a hospital who has been fully vaccinated with either d.j. and jay, pfizer, or mentor maternal vaccines.every patiente admitted for covid is not fully

vaccinated. if they are not getting sick, why do they have to wear a mask. businesses have no way of verifying who has and has not been vaccinated so it is not one size fits all and finally the county director is not ruling out the implementation of stricter mandates, including more shutdowns. stay tuned, tucker. l.a. county appears to be on a roll. >> tucker: power and politicians, good luck getting it back. trace gallagher, thank you. as mask mandates and shutdowns make a comeback, many colleges are forcing students, kids to get the vaccine. even kids who have recovered from covid, and there are millions of them, and have antibodies. it is not science. the question is, is a legal? one top law-enforcement official doesn't think it is legal and is taking a major step to end this in his state. he joined us next. ♪ ♪

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>> tucker: in this country, in any free country, politicians are not supposed to be allowed to decide what you can see, hear, or talk about. they can't control what you read, period. that's why the first amendment. but they are and they are doing it and much more aggressive ways than they've ever done before. we learned this year it was a lifelong democratic party fixer called tony, andy stone who allowed facebook's decision to censor "the new york post"'s very accurate reporting on hunter biden. it was kamala harris -- tweed's decision to censor a video clip of donald trump discussing the fact that actually covid's and spread among kids very much. those are people on the fringes of politics. then just weeks ago tony fauci's coordinate with facebook to spread misinformation including by text message. this is anonymous. we learned much more about it, the crack down on the most basic

civil liberties we have and it came straight from joe biden stop flak. the white house is now directing facebook to censor specific posts that joe biden's white house doesn't like. >> we are in regular touch with the social media platforms and those engagements typically have been through members of our senior staff but also members of our covid-19 team, as dr. murphy conveyed, this is a big issue of misinformation on the pandemic. we research and track within the surgeon general's office, where if where flagging problematic posts for facebook that spread disinformation. >> tucker: perfect. so they are actually controlling the white house. politicians are controlling what you are allowed to read about covid-19. and who knows what else, if you can stop misinformation on vaccines, what can't you do? this is the line they are not supposed to crossbreed them not

allowed to do this, is clearly a violation of the first amendment. the white houses and a private company paid their politicians. they are the government. and they are controlling what you can read about something that actually matters, by the way. how is this allowed to happen? why is no one doing anything about it. we don't have the power to stop it, we only have the power to tell you about it. i hope it does stop soon. many colleges are now forcing students to take the coronavirus vaccine even if they don't need it, and many don't because they already had corona and they have active antibodies. that was happening in south carolina even though state budget provision prohibits mandates. that is when attorney general of south carolina stepped in. he recently sent a letter to one school requiring vaccines, charles sell college in charleston. the decision to be vaccinated for covid-19 is a personal decision." you can't do this, it's against the law and when they pointed that out, the college in

charleston backed off and kids have the right to choose what medicine they take, thank god. mr. attorney general, thanks so much for coming on the show. first, thank you for doing this. second, why isn't every attorney general in every state done this? first off, why did you do this? >> you start off with what does the law say, and especially here in south carolina the law is very clear. any state, publicly funded college or university cannot require proof of a covid vaccination and there was a covid protocol put up by one of our colleges and universities that was kind of unclear but it basically required incoming students of the fall semester to fill out a form, covid vaccination form and if it was determined you were unvaccinated and you declined to fill out the form you would be placed on the list, a mandatory covid testing protocol list, and that was very upsetting to many parents and a number of students who reached out to our office and that caused me to reach out to the

university and basically say you can't do indirectly what you are prohibited from doing directly. i was concerned that if a student refused to comply with the covid testing protocol that there might be an adverse consequence to them. so we told them, we need you to clarify your covid policy. which to their credit they did within a day about sending the letter for the president of the university responded and clarified there would be no adverse consequences. we also wanted other colleges in the state of south carolina to note that if you're pursuing covid protocols, they need to be clear there will be no adverse consequences, nor will there be mandates that students have to be vaccinated. >> tucker: and i can't imagine there is a state in the country that allows an institution to force medicine on people who don't want the medicine. it's not even about covid. why can't we force uppity people to take -- i don't like your attitude, take some tranquilizers. i don't think any state would

allow any institution to take cs that line, or am i wrong? >> we don't allow it here and i hope other states would follow the rule of law. there a lot of people concerned about the emergency use authorization. this is not a fully vetted drug. it is vetted but there are people who are making the personal decision not to get vaccinated. i personally have been vaccinated, i encourage people to get vaccinated but if people don't want to get vaccinated they should be allowed to live their lives freely, so that is what we are defending, people's rights to live their lives freely. >> tucker: if you're worried about covid, you can get vaccinated so we solve the problem that way. attorney general of south carolina, alan wilson, thank you so much. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: d.c. kamala harris, or kamala harris, whatever pronunciation we are going with on television, and you'd like to work with her, should i sent her my resume? put a hold on that. the sources inside her office have just shared what it's like to work for her. it's a little bit like going to war but without the valor or the

metal. and then, someone's birthday. someone's birthday is today and we are going to celebrate it, next.

♪ ♪ >> tucker: so msnbc, the tv network not the schedule three pharmaceutical, has a birthday today. that channel is 25 years old. it's hard to believe, especially for those of us who remember the day was born. and yet even at this advanced age there are a lot of misconceptions about msnbc. the first is that all of its anchors have been accused by a sitting president of murdering a young woman in a congressional office bid that is not true, it's a myth and we like to dispel it once and for all right now. the second misconception about msnbc is that it has always been some sort of left-wing revolutionary channel. leon trotsky tv. that is not true either. from its first hours msnbc was a corporate project. the ms stands for microsoft. the nbc, than a division of general election. so the channel began as a merger

of business titans and fundamentally it is still one big hr department. after the 2004 presidential elections, the geniuses in the programming office decided to prevent and make msnbc more populist or something. they weren't sure exactly what they want to but they hired a new prime time anchor anyway. >> do you wish now, looking back three years, that the press had been a little more vigilant in asking questions about the invasion of iraq during the run up to it? like are we certain there are the stockpiles that we are using to justify the work? how did they know they are there, what exactly are you talking about in your speech? don't you wish the press had been a little tough on the administration. >> tucker: honestly, that is pretty compelling television but in the end it was not enough. the guy you just saw was fired for low ratings. he was replaced by an emotionally stunted, agoraphobic baseball card collector who wore mom jeans to the office and wrote a script with too many adjectives paid mr. keith ober s

and gentlemen and keep in mind the letter ellis island. before long he took his mom jeans and went back to his said midtown apartment, but msnbc are made in evolution continue. like puppies, all tv networks are cute when they're little. the problem is you never know what they are going to grow up to become. what is msnbc now? essentially it is the network of drumming up rates for your two -- he is the anger once again screaming about those diabolical white people. >> here we are again with conservatism at least among a certain cohort of white guys reading itself and the idea that even during a pandemic, these screaming men and women have the god-given right to order a steak at the restaurant and hit the golf course and the bar, and that those rights which they claim were conferred upon them by god, require a

disproportionately black and brown labor force to return to work, get back on the wheel, and risk of death in order to serve them and return them to their comfortable lives. >> tucker: broadcasting that crap 24 hours a day. it's pretty ugly. but we are going to rise above it tonight and wish of the woman you just saw, the race a lady along bush , the rachel maddow impersonator and rachel maddow herself a very happy birthday and we will do it with maximum cultural imperialism. as the average stay on occasions like this make your life be full of gladness and health enter bucket full of gold is the least of your wealth. may the dreams you hold dear be the ones that come true and mail the kindness you spread keep coming back to you. happy birthday, msnbc. some say kamala harris, kamala harris, whatever we're going with this kind of funny

because she can't even pronounce her own first name, it changes. but she'd like you to know that despite appearances, she does have some pretty deep principles. >> we are united by the fundamental belief that every human being is of infinite worth, deserving of compassion, dignity and respect. >> tucker: but there was a caveat, unstated at the time, that everyone deserves dignity and respect except the people that work for kamala harris. they don't get it, and now they are going on the record to explain. one staffer in her office "had a sense of paranoia that you never knew when she was going to snap at you." surprised to learn that? and others that employees were "so stressed out they were making themselves sick." so kamala harris, champion of women, actually was marinating in a toxics to of toxic

masculinity. jesse kelly is stiffest again it enough to understand this. thanks for coming on, are you surprised to learn that kamala harris, if that is what she's going by, is like the worst boss in washington and nasty to the people who work for her? >> it's the most predicable thing in the world. everyone watching you right now has worked for or worked with somebody who just has ambition just dripping off of their pores and that is kamala harris. those types of people will do anything to get ahead, they treat their bosses like a crap, they treat their employees like crap. that is why she knifed joe biden in the debate with all the race nonsense, there was no reason to do that. it is what she cackled like a hyena anytime she is asked in a comfortable question. it's the same reason she started her political year as a bratwurst bun. kamala harris will do anything to get ahead. >> tucker: of god to say when i look at her you can feel the fear and false people are always afraid because they are terrified you t

who they really are. people who don't know how to pronounce their first names or people who grew up in canada and pretend they didn't. she seems terrified always of being exposed. >> she doesn't believe in anything and people without any grounding, they are really worried about getting called out on it. kamala harris is always painted us this far left wing or, if she thought her political ambitions would do better on the right, kamala harris would be to the right of marigold while there tomorrow. she believes absolutely nothing except kamala harris. that is all she's ever been. she doesn't look at them as people like a secretary or an assistant, they are all just stepping-stones she can stomp on on her way to the top job. as soon as they throw poor joe out the back door and kamala harris is in the front office she will move on to something else. >> tucker: that is such a good point, it would be funny to bribe her pollster that -- an attack on circumcision or

something like that and watch her give an impassioned speech. she would. >> she was throwing people in prison all day long in california as this absolute ball-busting, throwing people in jail for anything she could possibly think of and now she goes to the senate, she's the most left-wing senator. this woman doesn't believe in anything except for achieving the next thing. like i said, everybody watching is already thinking of somebody. they know someone in their life like that. they are always terrible people, universally. >> tucker: you're absolutely right. we shouldn't pretend she's especially unusual. we know her. jesse kelly, great to see you tonight. thank you for doing this. >> you too, tucker. >> tucker: were just beginning to get the sense of the outlines of the cost of the coronavirus t dominated this country for a year and a half and it's really sad. sad or than we thought. brand-new data from the cdc spells out just how many people died, and not from covid. we will tell you how, next. ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ >> tucker: so what was the toll of the coronavirus lockdown? the coronavirus lockdown's were not just about coronavirus and covid-19, they changed the way all americans lived in that had costs. it turns out much greater costs than we ever imagined. according to new data from the cdc a total of 93,000 americans died from drug o.d.es last year when the country was shut down. how many people was that?

in 201,972,000 people died of drug overdoses it's a massive increase pin fennel involved in 60% of those o.d.es. to assess these numbers dr. marc siegel joined us. he's the fox news medical contributor and we're happy to have him here doctor, thank you so much for coming on. what's your reaction to this? that is an enormous number. >> i am absolutely astounded except that i i'm not surprised. when we go back to wuhan china where the city was lockdown and labs were locked down but you know what other labs were locked down? sentinel labs were locked down. illicit labs were lockdown it as the city opened up, the fentanyl started to flow, 50 times more powerful than heroin. and you know where that fentanyl goes.

a psychiatrist and head of the national institute of drug abuse, she said yesterday that the overdose deaths, 93,000, like you said, the most in this century by the way were caused by what she is calling isolation. but our word for isolation as "lockdowns, where people don't have access to their loved ones, where people don't have access to any structure or they don't have any happiness, where they are locked down, they don't have any treatment, they can't have any treatment. they can't even get the emergency drug you get for opioids if you're about to stop breathing. where does all this fentanyl come from? while this? first of all, the doctor is right that it is mixed in with methamphetamine, cocaine, you don't even realize you're getting fentanyl. it leaks into the southern border under the biden administration, in el paso, texas, there is 40 pounds of fentanyl over the past year comd the year before. 40 times more fentanyl not sitting alone leaking in through

the poorest border under the biden administration. but it doesn't start there, it doesn't start in the southern border. how did they get to the southern border? it got there almost always from china. from a little city in china primarily, known as wuhan. wuhan. >> tucker: that is incredible, we've done so many segments and i had no idea that the precursors for fentanyl were made in wuhan. the city in central china has had a big effect on the history of the world. what about, i have always wondered, when the governor made the decisions to shut down public gatherings, why were no exceptions made for aa or support groups for people who were struggling with addiction, and there are millions who are. >> that's an extremely important question and that is because no public health decisions were made from a global view. it was always the virus, the virus. and of course you can't have an aa meeting on zoom. of course you have to go to your counselor and you have to be counseled and you have to get

the treatment. would you just can't get on zoom. so all of this caused tremendous damage and should have been considered. collateral damage from the pandemic, way worse, i believe, than from the virus itself. >> tucker: it's starting to seem that way. gosh. not to be preachy, but i have to say there is an awful lot of addiction in this country and i have found sobriety really is the key to happiness and i think that's true. we should make it easier, not harder, for people to achieve it. dr. marc siegel, thank you come appreciate you coming on tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> tucker: we are basically out of time. all this week and we showed you horrifying images out of south africa, one of the prettiest countries in the world, a lot of really nice people. has descended into anarchy and chaos. a lot of reasons for this but at the very heart are bad policies. really bad policies, and in some cases, were encouraged by our politicians here in the united states, so we brought someone all the way from

south africa to our studios here to describe what is happening and more importantly, why and what we can learn from it. amazing conversation, we are going to put that up on fox nation. it is a "tucker carlson today" interview up at 4:00 p.m. and we will share a portion of it on our show tomorrow night. hope you have the best night. we will be back. in the meantime, sean hannity takes over from new york. >> sean: and as always, thank you tucker and welcome to "hannity." tonight, the far left radical extremist organization known as black lives matter, the organization is now sticking up for cuba's evil, murdering communist dictatorship. you know the one that kills, tortures and imprisons scores of peaceful citizens out there protesting for the cause of freedom. coming up, the great one mark levin will have an important message for this anti-american organization. also tonight, the radical left trying to ruin sports, professional sports in particular in order