rachel: will loses gracefully. [laughter] pete: have a great saturday, everybody. ♪ and they stay there ♪♪ neil: well, i certainly hope you're sitting down for this and happy weekend, everybody, but we've got some startling developments come next week, a lot more spending. in fact, record spending on capitol hill that will break all planned spending records in american history between the $3.5 trillion so-called human infrastructure package the democrats will put to the floor to start at least debating, you've got already the $1.9

trillion spent and billions more in federal aid that could bring us to $6 trillion in planned spending, and that's just for started. welcome everybody, i'm neil cavuto, so happy to have you. it's hot out there, but the spending is running hot and heavy too. a lot more detail with south carolina republican nancy bates who, you know, her whole reason to run for office was to put a lid on this. so what does she think of all of this? in the meantime, let's go to the david spunt on these plans, tax cents and all this stuff -- creditsand tough that you are paying for. >> reporter: good morning. that $3 .5 trillion is feel up for debate, members of the administration say that money is well worth it. some progressives on capitol hill like congresswoman pramila jayapal, she said it is merely a

down payment meaning that total of $6 trillion could go even higher. you see the president there on capitol hill on wednesday, he made that trip to meet with democrats to talk about this $3.5 trillion human infrastructure plan, the keyword there human, includes two years of free community college, expanded medicare benefits, universal pre-k for all 3 and 4-year-olds, prescription drug prices also expected to drop. the president is also pushing child tax credits. millions of families across the country are receiving between $100-300 monthly. >> working families will receive these payments on the 15th of every single month for the next year thanks to the american rescuing plan. 86% of american families will receive their payment by direct deposit. it will show up in their bank accounts as child ctc. >> reporter: but with more spending no matter what the spending is more, it brings out those fierce of inflation. right -- fears of inflation. right now inflation is at its

highest point in 13 years. >> we're going to see all across the board prices going up. if you think inflation is bad now, it's going to get a lot worse. no idea is too radical, no cost is too high, and there is not a republican in the house and senate -- and i tell you this as the chairman of the -- >> reporter: right now time is running out for something to happen on capitol hill with that $3.5 trillion package. we're getting close to the august recess but, of course, neil, it's washington, d.c., there's always a possibility that could be canceled so members of congress stay here, but it's going to cost no matter what. neil. neil: all right. david at the white house, thank you. congresswoman nancy bates of south carolina, congresswoman, very good to have you. your whole rationale for running was to stop this rigamarole and at least use some common sense. now you're in the united states congress, you're facing a $3.5

trillion so-called human infrastructure package that might ultimately just need incentive to pass by a simple majority. that looks likely the way things stand right now. does it worry you? >> very likely and very scary. and you're right, republicans and democrats have contributed to this problem over the last several decades, but it has reached an all-time high. in fact, this morning i read the consumer price index in the first half of this year has already reached 5.4%, and the last time it spiked this high was in 2008 during the recession. and on top of that, you know, the democrats have already made everything more expensive, and now they want to give away the farm with this additional spending. you're right, we're talking about $6 trillion just to start, just for their down payment. and this is for free college, green new deal measures. but the problem is things don't, things aren't free. somebody has to pay that bill at the end of the day, it'll be on

the backs, i believe, of hard working americans who have jobs and pay taxes. and now democrats are training the american people that they're going to get a check from the government every single month. neil: you know, it's interesting because the parties are chasms apart on this issue. the democrats are dead sent that this is going to be -- dead set that this is going to be very beneficial to them, that more americans like what they're proposing than don't. republicans are equally adamant that this is going to lead to spiraling inflation, and all of the gains americans are getting -- tax e credits and the rest -- will be eaten up by higher taxes. one of you is going to be right, and do you fear that the popularity of these measures is going to make republicans look bad for being against credit breaks for those with kids who are hurting in these times? i understand your rationale, but

that you might be on the wrong side of this politically? >> well, it's always a risk. i mean, people -- who doesn't want a free check from the government? the problem is these things aren't free x these people are going to pay for it, as you said, through higher gas prices, the cost of groceries are already going up. inflation is here, and it's not going away. let's face it, i'm a single mom right now, and i feel that pain as well when i look at my kids every day when we go to the grocery store, when we go to the gas pump. gas has gone up at the first of the year, it hasn't gone back down. we see it every day in our lives as well. it's not going to be easy, but i think six months a year from now when they see their children and grandchildren are saddled with this kind of historic debt and the way that prices will go up, there's no way to pay for this without raising taxes. and to pay for it in the middle of the pandemic. and covid -- we don't know how long covid's going to be here. the delta variant is rearing its ugly head. the vaccine is very good at

keeping people out of the hospital who get it, but this could affect us for the long term for the next couple of years, and what's the impact on small businesses going to be? how are they going to keep their doors open, their people employed, and how do we keep our kids in school so they can get educated so at some point they can get a job? all these things are extremely important which is why i am concerned. free checks from the government every month, it's not free. we have to pay that bill. somebody's got to pay that bill. neil: well, so far they're saying that the rich will pate, the democrats. i -- pay it. i know you mentioned that everyone will pay it through i higher inflation. but let me ask you a little bit about the mechanics of this, congresswoman. the first hit will be or the first proposal to come before you guys will be that roughly $1 trillion infrastructure plan. it has bipartisan support. the president then wants to follow up with the $3.5 trillion. let's put that aside for the taoism being. do you support -- time being.

do you support the infrastructure plan as it stands roughly at a trillion dollars, half of that using reprovided covid funds that have not been spent. are you onboard with that in. >> i'm onboard with it as long as we're not raising taxes to get there. and my understanding there's roughly $2 trillion in unspent covid relief money, so the funding mechanism is there, and i do believe we can do it without raising taxes. i'm very, very cautious and, i think, suspect of more spending when we have to raise taxes on the american people. washington has never had a revenue problem, but we've had a spending problem, and it's been republicans and democrats that have contributed to it. and you have the federal government, state and local government literally shut businesses down because of covid, but they kept collecting taxes. they didn't cut spending, set any money aside. so all i would ask is the government treat themselves the way they treat businesses in this country as well. i'll support it as long as we

don't have to raise taxes to get there. neil: got it. all right. congressman, very good seeing you. representative nancy mace, house transportation, infrastructure committee, key player from south carolina. new congressman at that. in the meantime, the markets were gyrated by this a little bit, we had a big triple-digit tumble in the dow on fears that maybe all of this spending is igniting inflation. too early to tell whether it's driven by spending initiatives or just a bounceback from pandemic low that you'd inevitably see higher prices. be that as it may, even reassurances from the federal reserve and janet yellen at the treasury that this is temporary did little to ease concerns at least in friday trading. for the week, the major averages down after three up weeks in a row. liz peek with us now, fox news contributor, michael lee and sara -- [inaudible] former kamala harris campaign adviser. liz, leapt me get your -- let me get your take on the markets'

take because sometimes i find that to be sort of like a window into sentiment among the money guys. it can change you, i -- it can change, i grant you. but the read yesterday was a sudden, wow, we're getting concerned about this spending. but overall the markets have held up. so which is right? >> well, i think there are three things. one, how are we going to pay for the spending. if we start hearing talk about giant tax increases, this market is going to take a nose dive because no one has factored that in. the second thing is earnings. the rate of earnings advances for the s&p is still on the upside, so people's expectations continue to increase. but it's pretty clear, neil, and that we're at a tipping point there. probably estimates continue to go up for company earnings through the balance of the year, but we're close to the top of that. and the third thing, as you say, is inflation. a recent survey of investors showed only 23% of investors were seriously concerned about

inflation. my guess is that goes up, that the reassurances from the fed become a little tamer. we now have a place deflater of 7%. that is way above anyone's expectations. and here is the real thing that'll impact investors, companies are beginning to talk about having the raise prices because their costs are going up. if we begin to think that margins are going to get hit, that earnings are going to get hit by rising costs and because not every company can pass along those costs, that's when the market's going to take this more seriously. and i think that moment is upon us. neil: all right. it's hard to say but, mike if, we have the assurances from anyone in power on in that this is temporary. transitory, that's the popular term. i believe the treasury secretary janet yellen said three or four months tops before all of this starts going the other way. are you in that camp? >> neil, i'm in that camp, and another very important constituent is in that camp, and that's the bond market. so the bond market has the

difference between short-term and long-term interest rates is what the bond market uses to predict growth plus inflation for the next seven years. now, that spread or that difference has declined 20% since the middle of march. so the bond market is saying a lot of this is transitory. if you just think about this from a not so fancy-pants interest rate spread point of view and you say, look, it's a lot easier to flip the light switch off for the economy than it is to flip the light switch on x. if you use, as liz mentioned, wall street sell-side analysts, they are the most overly optimistic people in the world -- [laughter] and they have been consistently underestimating the snapback in growth of the economy as we came back. so on march 31st the expectations on this quarter's earnings was 53%, and right now we're tracking close to 70% year-over-year growth. so things are coming back much

quicker, and if the most overly optimistic people in the world are underestimating how quick this economy is snapping back, of course supply chain managers, purchasing managers, people -- original equipment manufacturers, people who are putting everything together to try to to get it on shelves and get their products out there are just not ready for the demand. and while we have this demand-supply imbalance, prices are going to be higher. so i do believe that this is, a lot of this inflation we're seeing right now is going to be temporary, and i say this with the $3.5 trillion stimulus the bond market's telling us that's dead on arrival and that's a pie in the sky -- neil: well, we'll see about that, but that's very interesting. you know, sara, democratic strategist, that's got to be music to your ears. not the possibility of another stimulus plan doesn't go through, but that this might be short of lived, this -- short-lived, this inflation thing. as you know, inflation eats away at everything that a lot of course your constituents could

get. in other words, it's a very progressive tax inflation, and that would save the day. do you think that that is what democrats are banking on, that this uptick in inflation isn't welcome, it's short-lived and that it's steady as she goes after that? what do you think? >> i absolutely agree with that. look, the reality is that we're in a once in a generation economic boom. and the biden administration has done a phenomenal job in managing the post-covid recovery. i mean, let's look at some facts. one, the u.s. economic output is back at its pre-pandemic peak, and it's growing faster at any point since 1951. our unemployment is where it was five years ago. bottom line, the biden administration's smart policies are getting us back on track. and, of course, under those circumstances the republicans have to find something new to attack the biden administration over, and they've blamed it on inflation.

but what we need to remind people of is that inflation is an expected, natural, temporary outcome -- neil: we'll see. that's the big battle royale. guys, i thank you for your time. sorry to just jump on you there. we're going to keep focus on that, also on on these 50 democratic representatives in the nation's cappal rather than in the texas capital. one of them on live after this. ♪♪ lo ...you can save up to 30% on your auto insurance. usaa. what you're made of, we're made for. get a quote today.

♪♪ >> there are so many laws we need to pass that these lawmakers are preventing from being passed. these law makers are making texas more dangerous because of their absence. i will continue calling special session after special session. so they can run but they cannot hide. neil: all right, texas governor abbott talking about those 51 democratic representatives still holed up in the nation's capital leaving the texas capital over that voting rights measure that's proven a lot more

controversial than i think even republicans thought it would at this point. be that as it may, lacking a quorum, republicans are kind of stuck in park, they can't proceed. democrats stuck in washington. indications right now that the federal relief to address voting rights issues might also be kind of stuck in place. let's get the representative john doocy, the texas democratic state representative, among those here in the nation's capital. representative, thank you for taking the time. >> hey, thanks for having me. i appreciate the opportunity the talk about what's going on here. neil: the governor said he'd keep having these special sessions one after the other. what do you think? >> look, we've got real problems to solve in texas such as ebbs pabding health care for -- expanding health care for all. if the voters committed to voter suppression, there's going to be political consequences to that. he's playing games trying to play into his far-right for his primary that he's worried he's going to lose. he's not doing anything that'll help the people of texas.

so what he's saying is despicable, it's not helpful for texans, and we're here to work for the people of texas. that's why we're in d.c. neil: all right. one of the things you wanted to do, and i don't know if you were among the group that met with senator joe manchin, he is sympathetic and supports, actually, your cause, but he doesn't want to buck the senate filibuster to do it which means it's going to be problematic getting the votes that you want to see at the federal level that you tonight have at the state level -- you don't have at the state level. is this a waste of time? >> no, absolutely not. we're here to talk about to the people of congress, democrats and republicans, tell them our story, to let them know how important it is that they find some common ground to pass legislation. forty states have online voter registration. that's a way to increase access to the ballot box, not texas. we're talking about many red states. i think we can find a lot of common ground and -- neil: representative, actually, thanks to guys like you and some

of your colleagues, you did find a little bit of common ground, you did change some of the, you know, polls. republicans supposedly want to -- [inaudible] you got some big victories there as well as, you know, allowing more time when they were taking it away for online voting, that sort of thing. so you were on the way to doing that, doing it the way you normally do it in the state capitol. but this has the appearance you didn't get everything you wanted, the guys who stormed out of the capitol look like babies. are you concerned that you huffed and puffed and now screwed yourselves? >> look, this is a normal provision that's within the rules. we take voting rights incredibly seriously. this is the most important issue. we will do everything we can to fight for the voting rights of all texans -- neil: why not fight for that right in texas? [inaudible conversations] elections have consequences. they -- [inaudible conversations] >> let me answer that question. elections do have consequences,

and we have is enough members to break quorum. that's the consequence of the elections that we won, and we are here fighting for the voting rights of texas -- neil: how long, representative? >> right now we've -- this special session. we are passing the torch to congress letting them know that they need to get done. and i want to say right now on your show, and i appreciate you having me, we see republicans keep coming on channels talking about this bill, and if they're so proud of it, why do they keep spreading lies about it? i've even heard on your show that this bill increases voting laws. that is a falsity. this bill shortens -- neil: representative, you know what? i'm going to make good on this because later in the show we have the author of this bill coming op. i'll ask him just that. tick around. stick around.

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♪ >> what's extraordinarily important for us to communicate as well is the actions of the u.s. contributions to the suffering of cubans on the island as well. and that is directly related to the embargo. and and like other u.s. policies, particularly other u.s. policies targeting black americans and latinos, the cruelty is the point. neil: congressman, what'd you think of that, that this is on us, that it's our embargo that has created this. >> good afternoon, neil. listen, what we're seeing in cuba we haven't seen for 62 years. i cubans young and old are marching in the streets demanding freedom. the only government to blame here, the only culprit of what's been happening in cuba is the cuban government which has been

a dictatorship, a failed communist regime which has violated human rights for decades. neil: bottom line, the protests are still on. the violence is still on not only in cuba, but concerns that cuban exiles in florida who want to help any way they can. charles watson is in miami with more on that. hey, charles. >> reporter: hey, good morning, neil. the support for the cuban people here is strong here in south florida, marley in miami. -- particularly in miami. in the time that we've been out in front of the iconic versailles restaurant, we've seen folks driving down with cuban flags on their car and honking their horn in support of freedom for the people in cuba. and those protests will continue. last night if cuban-americans here in miami boarded buses heading to washington, d.c. where protests are planned today. groups are coming from all over the country with plans to march from the cuban embassy right up to the white house and demand

the biden administration take some action to be help liberate the people of cuba. internet is slowly improving on the island after the cuban government forced a blackout as large groups of protesters marched in the streets over food shortages, the lack of access to medicine and unreliable electricity in the sweltering, tropical heat. since then videos have hit the net showing cuban police forces sometimes violently cracking down on protesters. following calls from florida governor ron desantis and other lawmakers, the white house on thursday said it is hooking at options to establish -- looking at options to establish a reliable internet source for the people of cuba. those cuban-born congressmen don't think that's necessary at this time. the cuban government has done away with import taxes so folks can get food and medicine on that island a whole lot quicker, but they're still putting the blame on the u.s. embargo for a lot of that country's struggles.

neil? neil: charles watson, thank you very much. to congressman -- [inaudible] republican, first of all, the son of cuban migrants. if you think about it, this is very personal for the congressman, so it makes sense that he's joined us on a saturday to talk about it. sir, very good to have you. what do you make of maybe it's a sign that the cuban government is getting concerned hood here -- concerned here, open to getting supplies and relief in by removing import tacts and the like -- taxes and the like, did they just blink or you're not satisfied? >> well, that's first -- and, respectfully, i totally disagree with the report. this has nothing to do with lack of medicine and electricity. this has everything to do with lack of freedom, with repression, with the communist system where there have been no elections or freedom for 62 years. and don't take my word for it, listen to the people in the streets in cuba. they're not saying we want vaccines, we wants a britain, we

want internet -- aspirin. what they're saying is free dodger libertad, freedom. so what is the regime doing? they're trying to now trying to get some more food, trying to get some more medicine to see if they can placate people. two points to that. number one, it demonstrates that the only reason cubans don't have food and medicine, it's the regime because they're the ones who are blocking it. it's not the united states. and number two, it doesn't matter because what people are demanding is freedom. and the demonstrations are all about freedom, about liberty and. and to try to minimize it and saying this had something to do because there are not enough as aspirin or vaccine is totally missing the point and the struggle of -- the sacrifice of the cuban people. neil: i hear, i think it was in response, to be fair, congressman, about the u.s. interest and those in florida who wanted to send relief and supplies to those protesters9 and the government there, you

know, kind of blinking. but i do see your point. the biggest thing, what can we do now in the immediate time? i mean, the fact when the government can shut down social media, internet period, we have an embassy there. why can't that be just an enormous wi-fi hot spot? in other words, what's practical, what's needed to get the wrd -- the word out? >> first, there is technology to help with the internet. we're hoping that the administration will at least do that quickly. but the second thing, and i think even more importantly or at least equally important, the president should be rallying the democratic world, our allies, about what's going on in cuba. he should be calling special, urgenting meetings with our allies, getting the oas and the united nations together, he should be getting our allies to condemn the regime as an illegitimate regime and start pressuring the regime. and what we are hearing from the white house is, in essence,

nothing other than some kind of nice, empty words. there's so much, so many options that the president has. and as of now, look, there was a high-level meeting between the united states and canada, and in the readout didn't even mention in their conversations what's going on with cuba. it's really hard to believe that this president is so clueless or cares so little about the suffering of the cuban people -- neil: so, congressman, let me ask you a little bit, are you open to asylum for those cubans who want to come to the united states? >> now, again, and we can't forget this, the issue is helping the cuban people in their struggle to be free -- neil: clear asylum, would you be open to that, congressman in. >> there's an asylum process. but right now the focus has to be, one, helping the people who are on the streets, focusing on the fact that they're getting butchered, they're getting murdered, they're getting shot

in their own homes and to try to make sure9 that the world realizes that, to delegitimize the regime and is to help the cuban people in their struggle to be free. that has to be the number one, the number two and the number three issue we're focusing on. internet helps in that sense. neil: all right, congressman, thank you very much. focusing on the mask requirement that is coming back throughout l.a. county late tonight, it will be the law. inside, put it on. people are sounding off. [background sounds] (other money manager) different how? don't you just ride the wave? (judith) no - we actively manage client portfolios based on our forward-looking views of the market. (other money manager) but you still sell investments that generate high commissions, right? (judith) no, we don't sell commission products. we're a fiduciary, obligated to act in our client's best interest. (other money manager) so when do you make more money? only when your clients make more money? (judith) yep, we do better when our clients do better.

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washington. doctor, good to have you bark as always. back, as always. as a doctor, obviously, your priority is for people to get vaccinated. you want them to be vaccinated. can you force the issue? can you force masks? should you force any of this? >> you need to because we have a rise in hospitalization in the united states, and we have a rise in mortality. so we have to do something to contain this virus, and wearing a mask would prevent us from shutting down our economy. this is the best thing we have to save lives and save our economy. neil: what's the benefit for those who have already been vaccinated and they've been waiting for this and all of a sudden now they're told put the mask back on if you're indoors? they're not in harm's way, are they in. >> no, they're not. because with, basically, the vaccine saves you from getting to the hospital and -- [inaudible] but people can still be infected, and you could still be passing the virus to others who

are not vaccinated. the problem right now if you go to any store or any place indoors, you have more people who are not wearing a mask, then we know out there the number of people who are vaccinated. so we need to, basically, go back to the basics of prevention, wear a mask, all of us, in order to set the record straight. telling people this virus is not over, this pandemic is not over, and we need to be very careful. neil: now, i was noticing in this latest period the number of cases has zoomed up 70% in this country in the last week. 99.4% of those cases were among those who had never been vaccinated, the same with hospitalizations, up 36%. i guess what i'm coming back to then is if we had to isolate this and the spikes in cases and hospitalizations, and even sadly some deaths though i think they're now hovering at around 200, is all of this turning things whereupon side down --

upside down worth it? in other words, if you fear that the other maladies associated with another crackdown or mandates is going to make the situation far worse? >> no, it doesn't. i mean, look what's happening all over the world. we have countries like israel where the vaccination rates are much higher than we do, and they have strict mandates, stricter than what we have here, and they're seeing a rise in cases. so we need to be proactive here, and we need to do the right things. and you're right, what's fueling the pandemic right now is the unvaccinated. and that's why we are seeing the surge. we have a variant right now that's very -- and wearing a mask is the least invasive, the least tool that we have aten hand that will damage our economy but in the long run it save lives and save the economy. neil: now, what about a requirement that kids this fall wear masks at cool? that would include -- at school? that would include the kids 12

and under for whom vaccinations are not an option for the time being, and they're the populationing that would be the most tough to keep those masks on. >> exactly. it's very difficult. and that's why we need to set an example, all of us. we need to be role models saying how can i help my child to wear a mask -- neil: but have you seen these kids with masks, doctor? i mean, you know, they're not great at keeping them on or even using them appropriately. so is it really worth it there? >> no, it's worth it, neil. they're not vaccinated, they're susceptible, and they're dying from the virus. so we really need to protect them. that's why we need to get the vaccine. those -- neil: what percentage of them, doctor, are dying? though i'm not trying to minimize -- [inaudible] >> very low. neil: it's infinitesimal, right in. >> very low number of more that mortal -- mortality, but one death, if we can prevent it in the united states with, you and i talking about the future, how

connect we protect the future of the united states, get a vaccine, wear a mask until we reach herd immunity. it's very simple. we can't have it both ways. we can't in this country say i don't want to wear a mask, i don't want to shut down our community and i don't want to take a vaccine. it doesn't work like that with a vaccine -- [inaudible conversations] neil: do you think we're heading into something bad? i'm talking about the globe. >> we are heading into a -- yes. we're heading in the wrong direction right now in the united states simply because our hospitalization numbers are increasing. i mean, our mortality numbers are increasing. we were seeing a decline in cases and it's happening in the summer. it's happening at the time when we should have no infections, and we should be very careful. we have a winter where we will see a surge in cases. it's happening at a time when the odds are in our favor, we need to to go and get our vaccine as soon as possible to save lives and save our economy. neil: all right.

doctor, thank you very, very much. that is important to get vaccinated. that was the white house position as well and a lot of top medical professionals as well, but they have not liked a counter-campaign that the vaccination's no big deal and, furthermore, ordering it, even recommending it is an abridgment of their freedom. finally, the white house intervened to the point of telling social media like facebook, enough already. that's misinformation. how far do you go with that? after this.

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♪ neil: all right, facebook is responding to white house criticism that it and other social media powerhouses are are not really helping the vaccine cause by promoting vaccine myths, misinformation, it says. anyway, facebook is saying it's in the business of saving lives and it has, not ending them. the latest on this drama and where it stands with mark

meredith at the white house. hey, mark. >> reporter: neil, good morning to you. the white house says misinformation about the covid-19 vaccine is spreading far and wide online, so it says it's working with social media companies to flag controversial post, but create sicks say -- critics say this reeks of censorship. new cases are skyrocketing in some states especially where vaccinations are lagging. on friday the president was asked if he had a message for platforms like facebook. >> they're killing people. i mean, they really -- look, the only pandemic we have is among the unvaccinated, and they're killing people. >> reporter: facebook certainly had a lot to say about that. they said we will not be distracted by accusations not sport by the facts -- supported by the facts. more than 2 billion people have viewed authoritative information about the vaccine on facebook which is more than any other

place on the internet. it appears the list came from a nonprofit which tracks online content. the administration is in contact with the social media companies, still, this news is leaving a lot of people scratching their heads. >> well, look, the government can't censor speech. the first amendment makes that very clear. so private, if-profit corporations -- for-profit corporations can make its own decisions. it starts to look an awful lot like a first amendment violation. >> reporter: facebook says it's been working to stop misinformation for months and the company says it's removed 18 million pieces of information about the pandemic. other platforms are blocking some covid-related content. a lot of debate about these social media a companies. a back to you. neil: all right. governor andrew cuomo is going to be in albany today where it's

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♪ neil: all right, probably not an alert as much as, well, we expected this of the biden administration. saying that its justice department will appeal this deeply disappointing daca ruling. the president saying that the justice department found it deeply disappointing, that was when a federal judge in texas ruled this idea that protects certain immigrantses and more to the point their children brought to the united states from deportation was, you know,

illegally founded. in other words, the premise wasn't sound, so the judge rejected it. the administration says it wants to look into this whole matter, and the justice department is on the case. all right, in the meantime, governor andrew cuomo in new york, authorities there, prosecutors there are still pursuing their case against him on sexual harassment claims. he'll be facing questioning today in albany. what's at stake here with brian claypool, civil rights and criminal defense attorney. brian, thank you for joining us today. i was thinking about the new york laws on this type of thing that it's one thing making the same stuff -- that is, tawdry or just icky for want of a better legal description -- quite another to act on it. so the governor is saying he has said some bad stuff and regrets it. but he's never acted on it. that's essentially where he's coming from. is that going to hold up in this

investigation and the back and forth today? >> yeah, good to see you again, neil. i think it might have hell up if he did not agree -- held up if he did not agree to make this interview. because you just made a good point. harassment, sexual harassment is not a crime in any state across the country unless it rises to the level of physical if touching. for example, if governor cuomo actually fondle one of these women or actually kissed her. but absent that, if it's just governor cuomo making suggestive comments to some of these women that creates a charged environment, a sexually-charged environment, then he's got a problem. but i would not have done this interview because i think at this point the attorney general doesn't have enough evidence to get this to a criminal indictment. and governor cuomo needs to be careful in this interview because we know, neil, that a lot of this information's been

leaked during the investigation. so if i'm repping cuomo, i wouldn't want him talking about what went on in the office because that might come out in the public, that might compromise his re-election bid. and then let's say he says something that's otherwise proved false, then he might be setting himself up for a potential perjury charge down the road. so i'm not sure this was a good move on his part. neil: the focus of this, leticia james, new york attorney general -- fellow democrat, by the way -- the seems to be on the harassment charges, not so much what was going on and what he knew, when he knew it promoting a book about the covid response, the nursing homes and all the rest. it seems to be just on this harassment for the time being. his people seem to be saying we want to be there to get ahead of this thing. if you're right, he's actually going to make it worse, right? >> absolutely. big mistake, neil, because you

just made a great point. all the attorney general probably has right now is evidence of potential sexual harassment. i'm not minimizing that, but in the legal world that is a civil remedy because the attorney general investigates both civil and criminal. right now this investigation of governor cuomo is likely all civil. so what's the potential implications? maybe they try to to set up some kind of impeachment that probably won't go anywhere. but that said, why would governor cuomo try to give the perception to the public, well, i'm going to get ahead of this, i'm going to go in there and do this interview. oh, i did some things that made these women up comfortable. make no mistake, these two prosecutors are going to be jumping all over that because their goal is to generate some admissions from governor cuomo that might potentially rise to the level of a sexual abuse or a sexual assault, and then you've got a whole new ball game with

criminal imp. applications. neil: wow. amazing. brian claypool, thank you so much. civil rights, criminal defense attorney. we'll be monitoring what happens in albany, keep a close eye on it. also keeping a close eye on that very controversial texas voting law. we thought we'd go right to the guy who wrote it to find out whether there's anything behind it, after this. who can come to a stop with barely a bobble. lucia. who announces her intentions even if no one's there. and sgt moore. who leaves room for her room. with usaa safepilot, when you drive safe... ...you can save up to 30% on your auto insurance. get a quote and start saving. ...

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track to come near a record, if not setting an all-time record. it exceeds the total number of migrants that came during the entire year of 2019 which was the last surge that we experienced. experts say part of what's driving this year's surge is the anticipation of the sunset of title 42, a public health policy invoked last year that rapidly expelled unauthorized border crossers to prevent the spread of covid-19. >> now, what's interesting though, even the rumor of title 42 going away, which has been the last four to five weeks, has already caused an uptick in what was already an uptick before. >> back in 2000, close to 98% of those coming across the border were mexican nationals. it's easier to return them to their home country than what we're seeing now. migrants from central america, haiti and even eastern europe

and that's why this year's border surge is especially difficult from a logistical standpoint. >> we're starting to see very small kids, babies, unaccompanied children as well and it has been pretty consistent since the start of this crisis that's been going on. >> a federal judge in texas has blocked new applications to daca, a program that prevents the deportation of migrants who were brought into the u.s. as children. the ruling does not affect migrants already enrolled in the program and it's likely to face legal challenges from immigrant rights advocates. taking a look at our live drone, our fox flight team drone flying over the border wall, you can see how there are incomplete sections. the wall began construction during the trump administration and abruptly ceased when president biden took office and very easy to migrants to simply walk around the incomplete

sections and that's something that we're witnessing here in a hoya and other border communities on a daily basis. neil: jonathan serrie, thank you. you know, republicans claim the administration is sending mixed signals on how it views those who seek asylum in the country at the border versus though who might be seeking asylum from cuba or haiti. deadset against telling them not in either country to try to come to this country or get into boats and get to the united states. different policies that has senators, finance committee, energy committee, thank you. it's that we're potentially sending mixed signals. what do you think the white house is saying here? >> well, from what we're hearing from the president, it looks like president biden wants open border policies for

everybody except the cuban people. and perhaps that makes sense, neil, because president biden wouldn't want people to come into our country who might give testimony to the failures of socialism and contradict president biden's far left agenda. those images from the southern border are just shocking and neil, just yesterday i was in billings, montana having a briefing with our law enforcement there, chief of police, the county sheriff, it's not talked enough about on the southern border is the fact that illegal drugs are coming across, the heroin, methamphetamines, we'll see record number of homicides in billings, montana. we're a northern border state with a southern border crisis, 80% of our felonies and violent crimes are tied to drugs, those drugs coming in from mexico. so, he is sending a contradicting message, the president.

wide open border on the south and telling the cuban people you're not allowed to come to the united states. neil: you know, the argument was that he was looking at their safety as well as the safety of american exiles, or cuban exiles in florida trying to make the trip south to provide supplies, food, even a means for cubans to come to the united states, that it's dangerous, so don't do it. but he did criticize communism as a failed philosophy and cuba as a failed state, but you want him to act on that, right? what specifically regarding cuba would you like to see him do? >> well, this notion of the president saying the trek across the water for cubes bans is dangerous and i would agree, that's true. but the trek across the mexican desert from the northern triangle refugees are coming out of central america, it's equally dangerous, especially with the high temperatures and as you know, neil.

neil: right. >> many of those folks are families with small children so that's an argument. there is a process to be followed by seeking asylum and whether you are a cuban or whether you're from a northern triangle country, the process, the problem we have on the southern border is president biden has revoked the policy that president trump put in place that said if you claim asylum, you have to remain in mexico until it's adjudicated and that's common sense. and president biden suspended president trump's policies and we are going to see perhaps a record level of illegal crossings in the country for the month of june, it was the highest number in 21 is years. >> you know, while i have you, on that subject, senator, the president has promised that the justice department will appeal what he calls a deeply disappointing ruling by federal

judge in texas on this program that protects certain immigrants brought into the u.s. and that he'll address what this judge forgot. where are you on this and what does it mean to the children of illegals who grew up in this country and now see it as their country? >> yeah, well, there's a path forward here, neil, with republicans and democrats working together to define a path to citizenship that follows established paths and processes that many, many americans now went through that process who once were not citizens and now are citizens, but we're not going to go down a pass of grant being amnesty, there's a path, a process that millions have gone through who are now american citizens who should follow what they process. that's a solvable problem and i think we could find a

bipartisan solution hopefully with long established process. >> senator, while i have you, obviously, chuck schumer wants to begin at least debate voting on this three and a half trillion dollar so-called human infrastructure program. apart from that is the roughly $1 trillion real infrastructure only. are you a yes vote on that, on the roughly $1 trillion plan that does seem to have bipartisan support, not necessarily the 3 1/2 trillion dollar one that clearly does not? >> yeah, well, first of all, we've got to see how to pay for it. how do you pay for it? we're $30 trillion in debt and waiting to get clarity on what the additional spending, and also want to see what the cbo says about it, that's going to come out soon. but neil, i have to make a comment on that $3 1/2 trillion of infrastructure. this would be the largest spending bill passed in the

history of our country, this is a massive spending bill, it's a massive tax increase, it is a lurch to the left like we've ever seen before. it ought to be concerning by every american and takes just one democrat senator, one, every republican is going to be opposed to it, one democrat senator to hopefully bring common sense to stop this, that's what we're hoping for, the republicans are completely left off in negotiations on this 3 1/2 trillion dollar massive democrat spending package. neil: the fact that he wants to stick taxes on well-to-do, or the inflation that could come as a result of, on the tax of the american people. >> inflation is a tax increase for everybody. it just starts to shrink the paycheck, but the tax physically talking about here, surely is they're looking to

raise capital gain taxes to higher than any level, and doubling the can't gains, massive increase in the death tax as well as raising the taxes on businesses, the corporate tax rate, which again, if anybody is cheering right now, neil, it's the chinese. if we want to continue to be competitive to china we need to stick to president trump's and the republican tax package we passed back in 2017. that incentivizes growth, it incentivizes keeping jobs in america. neil: all right. the battle is on, senator daines, thank you. have a wonderful weekend, senator steve daines of montana we'll be following at that back and forth on the various packages and in the meantime, a lot of employers under duress, business is booming, but having a devil of a time finding workers, after this. this isn't just freight. these aren't just shipments. they're promises. promises of all shapes and sizes.

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>> you know, mcdonald's, when you think about it, really typifies what's going on for business, restaurant employers around the country. they can't find workers. at golden arches, some are paying $20 an incentivizing with tuition, and still having trouble findings workers. not only the powerhouses, but businesses of any sort. three and a half million americans are getting some sort of state benefits and it's complicated to get the recovery going full steam. sarah, i rudely in the last hour cut you off. i apologize for that. i wanted to get your take on the trouble that these businesses are having findings workers, and a lot of it has to do with benefits that were extended and a lot of people are crunches the numbers and saying well, i'm in no rush no

matter how many incentives you're throwing at me. do you think that the democrats, president more to the point, went too far and should slow it down? >> no, i don't the when poor people complain about low rages for 40 years, no win continues. when rich people complain with high wages for a few months it ends up on the news and i think the best they think for mom and pop shops in this country is to have a working and middle class america that has the disposable income to spend on them and really, i don't think there's much of a shortage of workers right now. i think there's a shortage of employers who are willing to pay them a living wage and we should be excited that after nearly 40 years. neil: a big player like mcdonald's can tend to bite the bullet and try to pay the higher wage, it's not getting any response by the way, but tough for the mom and popcorn you just-- the pop concern you were

talking about? >> and i think that it's important to have a living wage. neil: they want the customers, but they pay the workers. >> yes, but they need customers that can afford to patronize their businesses. by the way their employees need to have a living wage and-- >> well, i guess. i got it. liz, let me get your clarity on this, a living wage can only be in the eye of the beholder we thought $10, 15, $20 an hour, $25 in some places isn't cutting it. it's the idea of rich paying their fair share, when will it be a fair share, when will it be and what is a living wage, what do you think? >> well, i think, neil, first of all, a living wage comes from a job not from the government, and what we've seen, you know, maybe democrats should spend more time talking to actual small business

managers. typically these companies have very, very thin margins. they are really pressed by rising cost of everything and wages is the number one problem. look at nfib, the small business association, record number of their members saying that finding labor is the number one problem. this is a huge issue and we've seen from surveys, including those quoted in the new york times, that it is the unemployment benefits that have kept people home. so, you know, you just have a tremendous problem here and neil, i'm beginning to think it's the wage increases, spurred by big companies, and by small companies that will be the motor that gets inflation permanently embedded in our economy now. that's a big, big problem for everybody. and that, by the way, real wages are going down now. so, we can talk about how wonderful the biden agenda is for raising everything, but what they're really doing is causing a decline in real wages. neil: all right.

and when you talk about real wages when you factor in inflation what people really clear. i get that. but michael, let me get your sense of where this goes because prior to this inflation run-up and a lot of businesses were paying higher wages and their business was doing quite well and the pandemic came and everything else. so i don't know if the jury is still out on this issue, but businesses are in this position because their business is booming and they need more workers to address that booming business so they're caught in a tough position. how long do you think that lasts? >> so, neil, we have a few factors playing in here, right? obviously the big one is the extended unemployment benefits. the naysayers said this would keep people out of the work force and they were 100% correct. you're clearly seeing that now. the labor turnover survey 9.3 million, which is 2 million higher than the record before and then it has to do with the

fact that people, in a lot of states, people are more money staying at home than they would be going to work. that's going to fall off a cliff in september or october and we'll see how that plays out and then you're also dealing with what we were dealing with pre-pandemic, half a million unfilled manufacturing jobs across the country. so, you have some structural issues that this exacerbated. when you have things in common, a lot of growth, a lot of prosperity and productivity on the table so i see a very different situation come november and december. a lot of the jobs that people are going back to are not your high output, high multiplier type jobs, a lot of bartenders and waitresses getting back to work. there's nothing wrong with it,

but i think you'll see this later this year and $300 a child starts going out abouter -- out and will that keep people out of the work force. neil: democratic, liberals. airing their dirty laundry as they fight the voting laws, are they left out to dry? see how we did that? we go right to the problem the controversial law in texas. is it controversial? we'll pick it apart with the guy who wrote it after this. should h ) ave been watching the stove instead. (customer) tell me something i don't know. (burke) with your farmers policy perk, guaranteed replacement cost, your home can be rebuilt, regardless of your limits. (customer) that's really something. (burke) get a whole lot of something with farmers policy perks. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪

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>> we see republicans keep coming on channels and talking about this bill, and if they're proud of it, why are they saying this would increase-- and i would ask them to point to the bill that does that because that's a falsity. neil: one of the many texas democratic representatives holed up in the nation's capitol and not the texas capitol they called it a racist very one-sided voting rights measure. we're always fair and balanced with both sides and we had it in writing in the so-called controversial bill. brian hughes is his name, texas state senator and author of the voting measure. senator, i'd like to talk about the representatives in the nation's capitol. first thing they say it makes

it tougher for minorities to vote. yes or no? do you do that? >> of course not. that's crazy. and if i may specifically address the charge just made. look at page 10 of the bill and you'll find early voting hours expanded for 55 counties in texas. we already require voting hours to be 12 hours in larger counties and this expanded to 55 counties. and 10 and 11, weekend hours of more counties and sunday voting expand minimum five hours to at least six hours. so, if you want page and line, page 10, page 11 of the bill and spelled out clearly. to suggest this is anything, but clear common sense measures is false. the measures in the bill are complaints we received from latino voters, black voters who say my vote was stolen. they misled me and tried to cheat me, that's what this bill is about and to say anything else is completely false.

neil: they come to a different math than you do and i'm just -- i have no horse in this race, including a ban on 24 hour voting. i know that was institute obviously in the height of the pandemic. is there 24 hours voting or accommodations to those who liked the idea and found it a lot easier. 24 hour voting is not in the election code. never has been. one county tried it and there was testimony it didn't work so well, difficulty finding poll workers and poll watchers. folks who work for a living, my constituents. this bill for the first time says, if you have to get off for early voting, your employer has to let you off. what if if you're there in line and the polls closed in texas law now you have to vote. this time for the early voting, you get there before the polls closed you'll be allowed to

vote. neil: i'm sorry, i jumped in. i want to get to the core arguments and i want to be fair to you. >> okay. neil: the idea of mailing unrequested applications in the future will be blocked. i don't know what the procedure is now, but they fear that what this is a signal is that you don't want to send it out to democratic constituencies ap you don't want them to vote. so what is the status of unrequested applications to vote? >> to suggest that that is partisan is crazy. most of our early voters tend to be older voters who tend to be republicans, that's a silly projection. in texas we want voters to vote in person, a private place in the booth. early voting is available, 65 or older out of the county or if you have a disability. that's not changing what this bill says, the county elections office doesn't send unsolicited mailed ballot applications to

folks that don't want them. private parties can send them, but the official county election offices they don't send those unsolicited. there was testimony that was confusing to voters. again, anyone who wants a mail ballot can get one. neil: this other issue of partisan poll watchers and extend to democrats and republicans, that they would have more freedom to police voting places. democrats interpreted that to intimidate those at voting places. >> as you noted poll watchers there from democratic party, republican party. eyes and ears of the public. let's talk about current law in texas today a poll watcher can observe any activity in the polling place taking place other than the voter casting their private ballot. if a poll watcher prevents a voter from doing that, that's a

class a misdemeanor. this law says if you refuse to admit a poll watcher if they have the paper work. the election worker says they have to let them in and close enough to see and hear and observe the activity. we've seen the poll watchers in the corner of the stadium and not see what's going on. they're the eyes and ears of the public and must be allowed for them to see what's going on. neil: that was popularized after the last election. not necessarily in texas, but where a lot of trump loyalists felt there were things going on which shouldn't have been going on. and begs my question, is this in response more from pressure from donald trump than any irregularities in texas? last time i could tell and looked at the texas red lights you didn't have any controversies or problems so you're fixing something that isn't broken. >> in 02019 before the

election, the senate passed senate bill nine and i filed that, protecting voters from vote harvesters, people trying to cheat, trying to mislead. that was in 2019. in 2017, a mail ballot security bill. in texas when people come to us and complain, our constituents, whatever their party, this is ongoing in texas. neil: all right. the voter i.d., this goes back and forth. what constitutes a voter i.d. in this legislation? >> in this bill we're expanding voter i.d. not just for in-person voting, but for mail ballots. it's simple, asking the voter to right down their license, their state i.d. if not that, the last four of the social security and we'll give them no charge voting i.d. if they get that and write that on the application by mail. neil: and democrats say requiring this for mail-in

ballots something you didn't before. you're trying to limit their participation. you say? >> neil, they said the same they think for in-person voter i.d. that this is going to suppress the vote and it's terrible. what happened, we did voter i.d. and turnout increased across the state in every sector. that's a silly argument. most people are in favor of voter i.d., it's common sense protecting that voter. neil: finally, senator, i appreciate you going through these. this notion of the 51 democratic legislators who refused to come back. do you think they should be arrested when they return? >> texas law is very clear, a quorum has to be presents for us to do the people's business and the law gives authority to arrest them and bring them back, you bet. the same thing should happen for me if i'm leaving to defeat a quorum, i would be subject to arrest. we took an oath to do the people's business and we should do it. neil: the author of this voting bill, we've ironed out some of

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>> you had said not too long ago that this defund the police movement by democrats is a nonstarter and now with the election or in new york, the democratic nominee for new york may be given the presence in new york, the next mayor, he isn't keen on that, he was elected or nominated on that. are you telling democrats who say otherwise that it's a mistake, they should stop it? >> well, i've always said the slogan there is a mistake. making for head lines. you have to ask yourself will this allow me to make headway? is that what we have to do? burn baby burn destroyed our movement back in the '60s. i don't want to see defund the police destroy the movement that's going great for black lives matter to date. this kind of slogan can destroy

these kind of movements and that's what i don't want to see happen. neil: all right. that was jim clyburn's comment stop it's hurting the cause nationally. joining us now the retired lieutenant, and what's going on with the spike in crime in new york and other cities across the country. lieutenant, always great having you. what did you think of that seminal development over the last week or see, a prominent democrat now getting on the same page, maybe we went too far this this defund the police argument? >> it's not maybe, they absolutely went too far. and not only defund the police, but what's on the other side of the spectrum, which is the bail reform and everything that ties into crime right now. you have to start with the police department. you have to let them do their job. they see what is happening

right now. everybody's seeing what's happening across this country when you handcuff the police and you tell them don't this this, don't do that, if you do do this we're not going to indemnify you even if you're right. this is what's happening so they have to take a step back and get to good old-fashioned policing. they need to get the guns off the streets and deblasio's way of doing it is know the right way. we need to get the street crime out there and get the guns off the street and when the guns are off the street and the people using these guns are arrested that they stay in jail. this guy in times square, 16 years old, he is out on a gun charge already and able to do the same thing. what does it tell you about new york. neil: and we were mentioning before, adams, the front runner, may be the next mayor, and he has to thread the

needle, and clear about some officers go too far, but also been saying, i support law enforcement in general and we need more of it and them to fight crimes, but you think about it, regardless of the outcome of that election, in the meantime, bill deblasio will be there for quite a few more months and the times square association and other business groups said maybe you could do something about this in the meantime, but he shows little inclination to do so, does it worry you? >> it worries me big time. you might have mayor in name, but is not an acting mayor. he's neve been an acting mayor, but they would not go out for the flavor of the day, he'd let the police do their job. 's not doing the inner city any justice by holding the police back. if you don't let the police do their job, it's those communities that pay the price. all right? and it's not just the mayor.

it's everybody on this political spectrum that goes above and beyond to just disregard the law and do what they want to do because of the climate. that's not the way that policing works or fighting crime. it's a one-two punch. you need the cops when they make the bona fide arrest. a lot of people disagree with me and jumping across the page and going across to the democratic nominee, but he does understand what has to be done and i think he has the means to do it because he'll get the backing of the community and communities back to where they need to be and get rid of the so-called bad actors and bad apples in the police department and when you have everybody on board and say listen, guys, woo are' going to make it a one-two punch and do it the way we planned to do it. i think that's going to be a good approach that he will pay. rest assured. >> but you have to think of

something, joe -- and i respect the hell out of you, adams would have a low bar to jump over, i mean, so almost anything by comparison you would think would be better than what we're looking at? >> you know, neil, you're right. and it's sad, but, you know, i think that adams will raise that bar and challenge himself to get the job done. he's not going to allow a few bad cops to dictate what the n.y.p.d. really stands for. he's true blue, but also community oriented. so i guess, you know, time will tell, but i would like to put the ball in his hands and let him run with it and say give the guy a chance. you know, take stock in the police department again. when the cops feel that the mayor is backing them up and a police commission that do the same thing, a lot of things that will change. one they think that will not change indemnification, if

you're not going to back my cops up, they don't want to do the job left and right they're at risk and not going to put their livelihood and their careers and lives on the line for something that doesn't work for everybody. neil: that's well-said. thank you very much and thank you for your service for this great city, retired n.y.p.d. lieutenant his only agenda is keeping people safe, there's the concept. where were you, by the way, when we take a break here, with 25 years to go, can it be 25 years flight 800 tragedy for a lot of people exploding after leaving kennedy international airport in new york city, all 230 passengers and crew, for victims and relatives some 25 years later and just a terrorist attack many argued so many would follow. and now a lot of that wreckage from that plane is going to be

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>> no storms, but man, oh, man, a lot of heat. half the country dealing with 90 degree temperatures and out west triple digits. that's almost the norm. adam klotz with this, adam, what the heck, this goes on and on. >> neil, as you said, a whole lot of heat across the country. we're not really in the heat of the day yet, but as early as it is, some spots particularly in the middle of the country where we'll see intense heat, nearly 80 at the coasts. and you're looking at afternoon showers, they're not big tropical type systems know the that heavy rain, but a little bit of rain that's lingering across what's moving to the northeast and one system you

have to pay attention to rain-wise today as there are some flood watches and warnings because it's been soggy the last couple of days. maybe another couple of inches and that's enough to cause perhaps some flooding in this area, this is your rainfall totals, widespread, maybe only half an inch, but you get some yellows and reds and that's where you get over an inch and it doesn't take a whole lot in the cities, in new york a couple of weeks ago, otherwise the story is the heat. these are your feels-like temperatures and you're getting as you mentioned up into triple digits and at heat plus the humidity, what you feel like when you step outside not just the northeast where you're feeling the intense heat and these pile up, in the mountains and where you're going to see extreme heat and one of the spots we're paying attention to, heat warnings and watches and when it's all said and done, neil, maybe a good day to stay inside and watch tv and take your mom to the movies, and it's going to be a hot one across the country, neil. neil: all right.

adam, all good ideas. adam klotz following all of that. in the meantime, you know, i get a lot of advice from young people, particularly how i should spend my money or how much more i should pay in taxes, how i should be more generous and i think a lot of older folks, i'll put myself in that camp too, a survey out, the millennials and gen z-ers, they're not very generous with their money. i'll explain after this. thei. (other money manager) how do your clients know that? (naj) because as a fiduciary, it's our responsibility to always put clients first. (other money manager) so you do it because you have to? (naj) no, we do it because it's the right thing to do. we help clients enjoy a comfortable retirement. (other money manager) sounds like a big responsibility. (naj) one that we don't take lightly. it's why our fees are structured so we do better when our clients do better. fisher investments is clearly different.

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>> all right. for this final segment on cavuto live, playing the role of neil cavuto will be the angry old man. lugh (laughter) . very sorry about that. and they think that those with money should be much more generous and lo and behold, i found that millennials and gen z-ers are among the worst tippers and the handsome folks you see on either side of me. when it comes to the political analyst, out loud, and

elizabeth, finding my place author and good sense of humors which will help them in this segment if they don't behave. i want to talk to you about this, you strike me as a nice guy. the argument is guys your age, elizabeth's age, you're cheap, when it comes to tipping you're really cheap. so me thinks there's something wrong with you. is there something wrong with you? >> (laughter) >> well, neil, there may be a lot wrong with me, but tipping isn't one of them. for the first time in the history of coming on your show you brought on the wrong guess, sometimes i actually will tip over 100% of my bill if they've done a phenomenal job. it's true those in the gen z and millennials categories are some of the worst. and less than 60% in those generations are willing to tip and it's weird, neil. how is it so many people are

talking about income disparities and inequality, when they're not willing to actually put their hand out and say, here, let me give you a little extra for the work you did. neil: liz, what do you think of that? >> i will tell you exactly what this comes down to, neil. it's manner, i have four young nieces, and the sweetest girls in the entire world. at the same time, however, and i hate to say this, i know a lot of other young people who are not the sweetest and terrified to see what they turn into, but i know it's going to result in this, i think that people are not being taught respect anymore or appreciation for those that are serving us and helping us. i don't think that parents are putting their time to ingrain manners into young people's minds like mine certainly did and it's a terrible time when people in the service industry are trying so hard after not having work or money for a year and a half already and trying to bring a little bit of normalcy in this crazy time. neil: what you're saying is

you're exceptions to this rule, but here is where my waiter experience comes in handy. i was a waiter, but the first thing i noticed if i would wait on table, a couple of young people, i wouldn't get a good tip. that was not going to be my money making table. hate to be so crass about it. that's anecdotal story and don't have the stats, but it was what it was, it is what it is. what does that tell, and surveys are confirming that millennials and gen-zers, i'm sure there are cheaper old folks like myself, less inclined to be, maybe because they have a little more money. what do you think is going on? >> if i was in the business that you once held, neil, i would be looking and hoping for some of the higher income earners which 84% of those who make over $80,000 are more willing to tip. so, i mean, i'm not advocating

for anyone to say, but okay, this is a guy who looks like he'll appreciate my service more than a 15-year-old or 16-year-old who doesn't give a care and treating me rudy. maybe it's time to do something different. i've got to tell you that much. >> liz, if you get a lousy waiter or waitress, do you then cut back the tip? because nice and generous as you are, all right, the service stinks and i'm not going to reward that? >> i'll say what gionno says, i would not cut down a tip, but if they ask me how i'm doing that day, we all appreciate now especially after not having normal social interaction for a year and a half or so i would never ever cut down a tip and i hope everyone watching knows not to do that because don't know what they're dealing with. neil: and what you say, our

viewers love you, they believe me and they don't believe you. [laughter] >> you're very good sports. can you imagine the e-mails i'll get. you are cheap, my son. and if you're going out and waited on in these tough times, a little bit, just a little bit, okay? a promise is everything to old dominion, because it means everything to you. fine, no one leaves the table until your finished. fine, we'll sleep here. ♪♪ it's the easiest because it's the cheesiest. kraft. for the win win.

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