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country is in the abyss trying to claw out, we want to special hour to talk with you, about what we can codo about it -- can do about it, where we are, i thought who best to discuss this with me, that is american marxism than pete hegseth. >> thank you, i'm beyond humbled to be here. i'll tell you this, when american marxism arrived in my mailbox, you can ask my wife it was like christmas for me. >> thank you. >> phenomenal read. his that same feeling we're not looking at the abyss but we're in the middle, surrounded. you use the word marxism for the first time in a title in your book. i will dive in for a second to a portion on fox and friends i talked about how i would like to

ask a hundred questions. page 251, you talk about washington reading payne's word at battle of trenton, our challenge today, speaking of 1776 is just as crucial, urgent and more complicated. in truth, like early days of revelationary war, we are losing. most of the country has been caught flat footed and remains unengaged. this book feels like your attempt to get people unflat footed and leaning forward, how do they do that. mark: pete, the problem is, i sound self serving when i tell people, please read the book, if you buy the book, just pass it to someone else, have them pass it to someone old or the library. there is a lot in the book, it

is not to overwhelm but to explain. whether a political operation or a military operation or a business plan, we need to know who our enemy is. i don't say opponents, these are people who want to take down this country. and they are well along the way. we see this, not just critical race theory but so many other ar aspects of our institutions. things you never in your lifetime would think or see. the turn on television, you hear the propaganda the media is mouth piece for the various movements, i said, i have to look into this, i have written a lot of books, this does not smell right, i used to call it statism, progressivism, it is

marxism. these are hyrbrid forms of marxism. americanized forms of marxism. tailored to our country our system. not pure marxism in every technical sense but it is marxism. they say they are marxists, who founded it. it their original may be mission statement, it is filled with marxism. it is anti-american. anti-semitic. climate change used to be crime climate cooling or warming they found a phrase they could use to mask -- >> ambiguous. mark: this is a anticapitalist degree movement, that is why the first act that president biden took was to shut down a oil pipeline, it was not causing

pollution, they will attack energy, energy is who provides and serves the engine of our economic system, making everything el possible. -- else possible. you control energy, you control everything. so, what can we do about it? i have a chapter on that. >> that is what i love. mark: the first 6th chapters explain the movements, where did they come from, what to they stand for? i think it is bullet proof, if you are attacking me for calling it marxism, you need to attack the professors, scholars, i cite them, i quote them. i comment on what they are doing, we need to know who they are. we need to know what they are doing to be able to deal with them. >> i started with what do we did about it, that is part of what making this book so special and different, not just problem

identification. it is here we as patriots need to do something about it with direct reverends and direct opportunities to do it. kudos for that next step, for folks watching that is another reasons to get it, you can be engaged. it could be the beginning of a movement of a reckoning. there something in reading about it marx, what has been so enduring with that philosophy, if promises heaven but delivers hell it persists nonetheless, why? mark: a very good question, i thought about it, i discussed it a little bit in the book. there are a couple reasons. as a general matter there are two groups that are -- attracted to marx, people who no not take

responsibility for their own lives. and they project that on to us. people who are successful, need to be dragged down. people who are happy, need to be sad. people who are productive, need to be less productive. >> sheer destruction. mark: what is what marxis about. destroy what is what was, it is all antihumanism, the world begins today. then the other group, power hungry people, fanatics who use liberty to destroy liberty, they are diabolical people, many are tenured professors, from elected from the state of vermont.

they think they know how a country should work. despite all of the examples of how inhumane marxism and its off chutes have been. just was not done the right way. >> it is hubris if they dent get get it right. mark: i think it is fanatic simp. they don't see a higher power. they see government as the power. and all about power. local democrat party today, it reflects this idea ol. ideology, it is all about power, they don't want to change the voting laws because concerned black people can't vote. i don't know where these people are who could not vote, where are they. what are their names, where are their lawsuits, there are not

any. they will use race. but what is the democrat party trying to do? trying to have permanent control. it wants to turn red states to blue states, if you nationalize the election process you nationalize the democrat party, does the democrat party care about the country, no. why do i say that? it attacks economic system, independents of judiciary it wants to pack supreme court, and u.s. senate, it likes electoral college when it means, and wases to destroy it when it loses, open borders, to import democrats, we know two-thirds come over from border vote democrats. >> unless they come from cuba, then may might vote republican. mark: right. jobe job does not care about what is going on, on the border, he does not even take the time

to see what is going on. he pretends they are not, you look at the attack onure our economic and energy system, what is that about. that? does that make sense. this is not about polar bears, this is about restructuring our society, so that centralized government of the bureaucracy and democrat party are in control. if this is not an american form of marxism, than what the hell is it. >> how did it seems like it cascaded so rapidly. there were patriotic democrats at forefront just decades ago that -- bill clinton making argument that era of big government was over, he was no conservative but he was no marxist. there has been a acceleration, is this a tip of iceberg they

have been working on. mark: both, they are cleansing their party, purifying their party. that is what they do, unlike other regimes they go out and kill people who disagree with them, within the party, stalin was good at that. pol pot. they are, good, i am not comparing us to, that this is american marxism, they are cleansing the party, with a couple so-called moderates in the senate. they -- trying to grath them drag them intothe system. i can't think of a time that democrat party was not marching in the same direction. it is really rare when that does not happy. you had people run for the house, who claim to be moderate they voted for pelosi, and voted

to impeach donald trump twice. to answer your question. it has been building for decades, but it has come to a head now. one of the reasons i think is because year after year the indoctrination in colleges and universities, you see what happened in journalism, it has changed it is out of the closet, people on cnn and on the big networks would never have made it. 40 years ago, i would have had responsible executives who said look, cut it out, i know we feel this. but we're destroying our brand as a free press. we do not have a free press, we have a free opinion. if you are leftist. but we don't have a press, we have propaganda mills, i spend a lot of time in book talk bag "new york times." >> maybe, we could dig into the

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mark: welcome back america, this is not so much '"american marxism" but american marxism the problem we have in the country, and having the guts and willingness to call it what it is, explain it, and defend our liberty, we have reached a point we can live in a free society or not. i want to thank pete for being here, pete hegseth. pete: thank you. >> you do call it what it is, you name names as well, chapter three, hate america inc. it is about the classroom, makes i am familiar with dewey, but you look how they infiltrated america's classrooms, it has been central to what the left and marxists have been -- how they have been able to takeover our institutions. mark: john dewey was one of the

original cabals of original progressives, as they named themselves, he destroyed public education. he went to moscow. in 1928, when stalin was in full form. he observed the classrooms and observed what was go on, he liked it. he said this is good, we're teaching children to not be individuals or individualist but to support a common interest. and stalin was doing a fantastic job of this he cams back to united states, he brags about it writes a piece in the new republic. interestingly enough, one of the people who -- well several who liked what john dewey of writing were the school administrators.

his impact affects our schools today and journalism today. he rejected the declaration of independence, he rejected the constitution. pete: founder of america's public school system. mark: right. >> rejecting the declaration of independences. mark: i tell you why, it makes it clear that nation was founded on a belief of god and faith. you cannot be a marxist or marxist -- progressive and believe in faith or god, because your faith is in government, it is in man. only certain men, only yourself. and people who agree with you. that is one of the reasons why the first amendment is under attack, marxists don't want debate or ideas, they are self righteous.

they wish to impose their attitude on people, it is the same with education, talk about academic freedom, there is no academic freedom it is more indoctrining today, and people, thanks to the virus, people watching the kid, they were introduced to critical race theory, they saw what they were teaching, and transgenderism became a movement, teaching my 8-year-old, and my 9-year-old if they are black they have no hope, and racism, you are teaching a white kid they have no hope because of all of that occurred in the past, and their fault and so forth. this is the sort of thing that john dewey would be proud of. let me ask you, do you know a sing prominent democrat who

criticized this, joe biden has signed executive orders supporting critical race theory, why? why? because they are the american form of marxists. they are not progressives, quote, unquote, not democratic socialists, they are not all of these ambiguous terms they assign to themselves, they are not as aggressive and complete. i do not call the book marxism, i called it american. pete: other institutions are used on we'll that power -- wield that power. mark: if you look at democrat party, media today, you look at academia today, they are not promoting freedom, they are crush debate. they don't believe in the constitutional system, that i

want to destroy the constitutional system. if you read what these people write and say, it is no surprise. my view is, i am trying to make the american people aware. everyone can't read -- all of these people. i had to read them. hundreds of others. pete: how many -- 1234. >> over 400. >> that book could have been 800 pages look, i said who the hell would read that. pete: as you mentioned things, it brings to mind other aspects of the book, the idea of who silences people, chapter two, repressive mobs, what is all their out there, you enforce it. you go back to all of these professors, always a new professor with a new theory, there are a number of them. and they throw whether critical

theory, precursor to critical race theory, that a theory. never has to be proven it works. but to protect ourselves, are they held to account for whether or not their theories of effective. mark: no, look at the war on the cops. we heard about defunding police, then slashing budgets. we saw it. we saw when the dem -- democrat did in the city, and joe biden sitting on his hand, and kamala harris supporting it, the dome e democrat party and marxist wing of the democrat party, it happened, now they blame the republicans for not voting for spending because some of that money could have been used to help cop,s the issue is the cops is not whether or not there was enough money, they slashed the

budget. in new york day took over a billion away from the cops, not as if republicans don't vote at federal level they won't have enough money, they took the budgets they already had for the cops they slashed them. you see the consequences of thee american marxist movement. blm pushed it, aoc pushed it. the democrat party embraced it. they have blood on their hands, they blame someone else, we need to confront it. and use proper words and start unraveling this piece by piece, that is the point of the book. this book is not just a book about me, nothing about me in the book. this is theory in here to break it down, this is, hey, folks, let me tell you what is going on, deeper than surface level, we walk away from this. and our country, our children

and grandchildren. this is a call for action. this say cause for alarm. and i don't know how else to do it other than radio, tv and this book, we'll be right back.

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it is about american marxism. we need to spread the word, each one of you need to be the paul reveres out there, that is our strength. in communities, neighborhoods, church groups temple groups, baseball fields, that is who we are, red-blooded hanks. thank you, peak speak of red blooded americans, pete hegseth. pete: thank you. first. critical race theory is everywhere. we hear about crt, you dissect where it comes from, why did the left field it needed to use race in america to pursue their goals. mark: because the marxist has decided to use what of are they can in america, a free country. and so they look for things to

exploit. so race is beautiful. to exploit. given our history and the battles we had from civil war all the way up. they developed this theory, stanford law school, harvard law school, derrick bell, modified it from a marxist by the name of marcus . they developed critical theory, it started in law schools, says, all law is written by the dominant culture. victims, those who are pressed, minorities cannot get a fair break because the dominant culture writes law. pete: critical theory suggests that everything that exists need doing torn down. mark: that is right. bell, took this harvard law, apply it to race.

everythievngerything in this sos to be seen through the lens of race. when you look through the lens of race, he says, what you see is white supremacy, and white dominant society from the very beginning. soure economic system, our legal system, culture, is built on this white dominant, supremacy model. so, either you reject it. or you acknowledge it. it has to be destroyed. so, these are what i call the american marxist movements that have been spawned from marxism, marcus was not understand how able -- hitler was able to rise, and communism did not. he was a communist, he was a tenured professor in three ivy

league colleges, where he pushed this agenda, he trashed america every step of the way, his writings cause the eye of the new left, what we call the new left movement. he is considered the founding mother of the new left movement. he is also founding father of critical theory. kendy and others did not invent these ideologies, they are making millions off of promoting this ideology and pretending they don't know the history, i know what the history is. it like is patten in north africa, he said, ramma, i read your book. while i read marcus' book, and i read who bell wrote. and was on to bell, he had no

respect for him, bell's ideology was considered fringe at the time, now it is taught to our elementary school students and others. in anti-american, anticapitalism, pro marxist ideology. if you don't believe it, read it. now they are playing games with propaganda in media. this is what republicans are doing, they don't' to teach slavery, the republicans eliminated slavery. pete: the names like marcus and bell, most never heard of them, myself included, you talk about how they are happy to be in the background. and they interthe classrooms, and -- enter the classrooms, do they just have an understanding threw in army we call it a train the trainer approach, but you train the next generation, they go further with it. you recede to the background, is their plan to go from university

level down, and use your openness and tolerance as a society against us? >> for some of them. the faculty in these universities are insistious, i are responsible for hiring each other and a book i wrote, plungd plunder and deceit. they go back and hire people they know from the same universities, you get to the propaganda and indoctrination, there is a woman that i quote who is iconic in the neomarxist movement, she wrote a lot about how he teach marxism in the colleges, how we do this. pete: some were out in the open. mark: some are in the open, but some are not. every human being is imperfect. every society system perfect,. marxist creates a fantasy of a

perfect world, where everyone is equal. after the russian revolution, lennon famous he said, okay, marxtells us how to take over are not how to rule. to get the workers parities, you need to -- paradise you need to kill people, you cannot have free speech and open debate. if you are going to compel people to live in a society, all kinds of individualality and thinking all that stuff has to go. we see it today in cuba. these are police states, a fancy ideology and name for tyrants. these are police states. that is what is being proposed in this country. the biden administration is going door-to-door frying to trying toforce people to get va.

biden administration is working with a compliant facebook and big tech to do what? silent anyone who does not agree with government policy. it is happening, now, in fronts of us, we can talk about it, we can bang the pots and pans, but one of reasons i wrote this book, that is not enough, that is key. we need to know what is going on, put away the facade that is liberalism or leftism or social activism. make sure our fellow citizens with an opportunity to know what it is, then do something about it. this is where we fail, we'll be right back. ses. promises of all shapes and sizes.

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mark: welcome back america. topic with my friend pete hegseth, how do we save the country from american marxism. >> i'm on, journalism, you hit it head on, you talk 'two phrasing, public journalism and pseudoevents. >> right now, pseudoevents, 3 books that are hate trump books, they are filled with gossip, quotes, general millie, they are pseudoevents, why are news departments talking about 3 books. that are trashing a former president of the united states? we all fall into this, there is juicy stuff we want to talk about. what do we do about it? nothing, that is part of the problem. media. what are the media. we do not have a objective

press. there is reason for that. this. i have a whole section in the book, called public journalism,. it is the same thing as progressivism and american marxism. a time ago where journalists sought to be objectives, to provide the news, you can't be perfectly objective. there some subjective views that comes. but that is different. at least you are trying to do the right thing, they have given that up, you watch chuck todd or george stephanopolous or who they hire as news people, mostly democrats but leftists it is clear, the last 5 years donald trump exposed it. they exposed themselves. they are still i doing it. the way they cover-up for biden,

push the marxist or democrat party radical agenda. they never talk about what it is that democrats are proposing with the vote, that is destroying. there is a ideology that has been in work for decades. public journalism, it means we journalists are citizens too, we have to provide a contact -- context for it. remember dewey, there has to be a social agenda, they love dewey, they talk about dewey, he has a huge influence in journalism schools today and education schools, today, it iss an excuse for advancing the radical agenda. they try to destroy donald trump, they bad mouth his supporters, they tried to destroy ronald reagan, and bad mouthed his supporters, they

promote aoc who is really a a nobody who knows nothing. pete: a perfect pseudocongresswoman. mark: she is really irrelevant. you will not find a penny worth of difference between mass media today and vary positions of policies of the spawned marxist movement in america. pete: because they teach public journalism at journalism schools, so what you come out you are trained to say we have to create the context. mark: that say big -- is a big part of it, newspaper business have embraced it. there are no conservative hosts on cnn or objective hosts, the point is they push an agenda, taught to push an agenda, they

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welcome pete hegseth. pete: thank you, as we talked about in the break. there is so much in here, i want to go back to the solutions, we mentioned a couple example, people watching, what can they do. mark: 10,000 words on solutions. i am not the expert on solutions, the marx ideas, there are a lot people who are doing a lot of things, my goal is to galvanize us, rally us, network us to have a national move. as we do with tea party or trump revolution or whoever. the columnists early, they communicated in written word, thomas payne in his long pamphlets, it spread from dinner table to dinner table, pub to pub, school to school. that is what i hope will be done. let's look at our public

schools. we own the schools, they are called public schools, they are government schools. we pay the salaries, medical care, pensions. we pay the dues for the unions, for the classrooms for the building and we have no say. we're not sure what is going on in the classrooms, they won't tell us, we have a teacher union clearly part of american marxist movement, they are pushing critical race theory no matter what the parents think. they push whatever the hell they want. i have argued, thanked to a radio caller, we need cameras in the classroom, we had cameras during the virus, that is when we'll saw what was -- people saw what they were teaching they were shocked.

>> we paid for them. mark: the unions the -- fight it but to hell with the unions, do we know what is in teacher contract, no, why don't we. do we know how teachers are hired, no, do we know how teachers get promotions, no, do we know what kind of training our teachers get, it's time for us to put them on their heels, use freedom of information act, let's find out what is going on, push back against the union, what about the unions? when i was president of landmark legal foundation, we filed irs complaints against the ne--a . let's that will challenge them. let's challenge their tax stis

us. we can take quotes. on the web site of the national education association, use their words make -- you can do this from your desk. i'm saying -- pete: show people how to do it. mark: i give links, i explain how to do it. that is last chapter. pete: you just mentioned education. you talk about corporations. climate, and antifa,bler black s matter. if education is not your thing, there will be an arena in which you can get involved. >> there is a lot we can do with corporations, they have shareholder meetings, we don't go to them, the other side does, what about sporting leagues there are things we can do. we still have the ability to exercise our freedom, speak to each other and network, there so

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mark: welcome back. pete: this is a book everyone that needs to get, i read your other books, to be leader on forefront as you are to say we have to call it by its name. only by calling its name can we truly identify it. and do something about it. otherwise we're playing patty cake. that is what we've been doing for so long. well intentioned on a lot of levels, for a book that says this is what it is, this is what

you need to know, who is responsible, into what you can do about it is refreshing. the hammer and sickle on the back is scarry but it is here. -- scary but it is here, with the book out and reception what do you hope for. mark: thank you. for what you have done in the past for the country and now, you are a great voice for liberty. there is hundreds of thousands -- millions of us who are concerned about where this country is going, there is hundreds of thousands of you already who bought the book, we need to spread the word, explain what is going on. beyond sound bites. we can do this. we are smart we're the american people. whether you are an electrician, a plumber or build homes or a lawyer or a doctor, we are red blooded americans if you love

america and you want to save america and you care about your kids, we must galvanize and rally. you love your country, stand for your country, thank you, pete. pete: mark, thank you. mark: see you next time on "life, liberty and levin." >> good evening everyone welcome to "the next revolution" profamily pro- community and polymeric a shell. last week we expose the democrats lies to show have republicans can lead on the environment with a positive practical pro- america alternative. the world will not end in 12 years. we are not seizing an existential threat suggest human life on