todd: dr. carol swain, we appreciate your time as always. insightful topics. we appreciate you getting up with us. carley: dr. swap, appreciate it two hours gone just like that and "fox & friends" starts right now. ♪ ♪ todd: today the nation's top covid advisers will testify on capitol hill about mask mandates. >> this, as the american academy of pediatrics calling for kids to mask up. >> there is not a shred of medical evidence to support that. >> stocks plunging. stocks moving down more than 700 points. >> market selloff the likes of which we have not seen this year. >> a sixth texas democrat allegedly testifying positive for covid-19. >> do officials here wish those democrats would have been more careful. >> i don't think i'm going to be in a position here to assess what safety precautions they may or may not have taken.

>> massive migrant surge through a check point. >> one of the biggest groups i have ever seen. >> world knows the border is open. >> jeff bezos scheduled to fly into space on board his aircraft. >> i feel good about it and i think my fellow crew mates feel good about it, too. ♪ it's good morning ♪ wake up to a brand new way ♪ this morning ♪ nothing in my way. ainsley: louisville, kentucky, beautiful city. they have great it horses there. brian: man kiss is a a finalist on "american idol" from 1998, i think, it's a long time ago. remember, that was the hottest show in america for the longest time. steve: back in the old days. ainsley: my mom would vote. brian: multiple times. steve: everybody in our family, absolutely, figured out how to do it. there could be a charge.

brian: now the whole country knows how to vote multiple times. they picked up on it. steve: a beautiful day in louisville. i was looking at the radar. it looks like it's going to be nice in west texas for the launch of blue origin, jeff bezos is going to blast off with his brother, the 8-year-old lady and 18-year-old son of a hedge fund guy for 62 miles. you are going to see it live in the next three hours. brian: right. they will see us because they have huge windows. steve: hope they are watching something other than us. ainsley: let's see what pete hegseth is doing he is still down there in florida turning point u.s.a. student action summit. today is the last day. pete: today is the last day. going to end with a bang. lots of great speeches. thanks for having me. it's been a neat experience to have this experience and have be a part of it yesterday i did take the stage about 4:00. the speech is on fox nation. i will tell you, when i was standing up there, looking out

at 2,000, 3,000, and that's some video of me coming on stage. they do a production. let me tell you that you feel like you are at a rock concert. goodness knows, look at that. that's not your average conservative speaking engagement with rubber chicken dinner and white table klotz. like they do it up big here. when i was looking out at that audience. it was -- i saw my kids, you know, in all seriousness, you see these young faces and they love their country. and they are full of faith and full of life. they have a future in front of them. they are as worried as we are about what's happening to our country. i just hope people are motivated, young kids are motivated to continue coming out to events like this to get -- it's almost like a giant therapy session for conservatives at college campuses getting beat down all the time and being screener ised here they can come together and gather. hear from great speakers, other great speakers as well. later on in the show we will share a small portion of what what i had to say.

fox nation. kayleigh mcenany and i will be live on fox nation at about 9:3p moments of yesterday and previewing what's coming up today, guys. brian: pete, i got the apps. i will be able to watch later. i always envy people look good somewhat creed down. right? pete: bongino look. brian: it works and did you it. what about the decision not to untuck it but tucked in. pete: half tucked. i didn't know what to do tucked it on one side belt comes over and let it gofer go on the other side. i don't know if that's what the kids like but i went for to. ainsley: that's how the girls dress. we tuck in a little bit of our shirt. pete: thank you, ainsley. steve: not symmetrical. such a cool entrance. i would not be surprised if when kayleigh mcenany goes up on the stage you try to go up as well and say can you put that

big pete hegseth up again? blast off the smoke bomb? pete: put it up again, please. ainsley: 2,000, thousand kids, you have that many, don't you? [laughter] pete: i spotted a few of them in the audience, yes. ainsley: that great. i'm proud. they are college student. i'm proud of them taking an interest in this and not the keg part. pete: some are late high school. brian: have to make a choice. pete: some do both. ainsley: what time did you get to sleep this morning. pete: they burned off the steam the first night and need to recover. steve: we forward soundbites later this morning in the telecast. fox nation streaming all day long if you are don't have it right now. get a free month if you go to investigation fox nation.com and enter sas.

ainsley: i liked your speech yesterday you said we need to pray. pete: we all do. ainsley: did you get any sleep? brian did the 7:00. he is doing the 7:00 all week. brian: i could not go to the clubs. that was the problem. i had to go right home. steve: i was there. they didn't do anything. brian: pass the velvet ropes. i'm steve doocy. let me in. brian: top coronavirus advisers set to testify on capitol hill today. ainsley: this as cities reimplement mask mandates for vaccinated americans. steve: just so long as they don't have more lockdowns. dr. fauci says kids older than 2 need to wear masks if they want to go back to school. ainsley: here we to. griff: that's right. good morning, did the cdc end that mask mandate for vaccinated americans too soon? that's going to be the pressing question for fauci and wolenski at today's senate hearing with 48.6% of the country fully vaccinated just over 56 having gotten one shot in cases due to

the delta variant are up 107% in the last two weeks. now some california areas like l.a. county are reinstating the mask mandate. with others in the san francisco bay area and southern nevada pushing for the vaccinated to mask up again. meanwhile, as you mention dollars, the american academy of pediatrics wants a mask on everyone older than 2 writing, quote: there are many children and others who cannot be vaccinated. this is why it's important to use every tool in our tool kit to safeguard children from covid-19, universal masking is one of those tools. well, dr. fauci, backs that guidance. >> when you have a degree of viral dynamics in the community, and you have substantial proportion of the population that is unvaccinated, you really want to go the extra step, the extra mile. i think that's a reasonable thing to do. griff: earlier this morning on "fox & friends first," fox news medical contributor dr. marty makary had this to say.

>> absolutely no data on masks in kids who are vaccinated and many of us think that that vaccinated protection is pretty good to reduce transmission significantly. a lot of kids struggle with masks. griff: finally, wall street may want to take an ant acid. driven by fears of covid. see if the market reacts on what comes out of today's hearing. brian: thanks, griff. the american academy of pediatrics makes that ridiculous statement 2 and up wearing masks. not taking in psychological it it will affect of kids not seeing expressions, 18 month. it the w.h.o. said no child under 5 should be required to wear mask. the american pediatrics association said something different. what are the risks? 0 to 4 years old. 165 deaths in the u.s. we haven't examined what's in

those deaths. they said 500 kids sadly die of the common cold. i don't see anyone say wear a mask because of the common cold. they say statistically it's zero percent chance 0 to 4. 5 to 17, 0.1%. the psychotic call tool on kids wearing mask, to me, does not outweigh the risk of wearing mask and getting this virus. consider there is so much they don't know. ainsley: a lot of these gory governors saying l.a. county might say you have to to wear one indoors. we are not going to mandate masks. that includes ron desantis down in florida. he signed executive order saying cities and counties not allowed to do this texas governor. south carolina governor. jay inslee in washington state of all places i was shocked by that he says you do not have to wear mask. we are not mandating that. steve: look. we all the want the kids in person. if the price of admission is masks, apparently the price of admission. brian: but why?

steve: talk to the experts, brian? brian: what experts? that's one expert. the price of admission can't be met. that's one expert opinion. the w.h.o. is considered expert by some organizations. steve: so would you rather not the kids not be in person? brian: why is that a choice? it should not each be a choice for 2-year-olds to wear mask. steve: the "wall street journal" today has an op-ed and they said headline is we will always have covid. they talk about shutdowns and masks and stuff like that. let's hope the political classes learn some lessons from the last 18 months. namely, that covid will always be with us and that we will have to live with it without shutting down the economy. they say that politicians should take lockdowns, the biggest mistake of the pandemic off the table. so, if they are going to have some restrictions or some guidance, you know, in various localities, do it just don't shut down the economy. ainsley: that's the fear. that's the next variant? will we continue seeing the cycling another variant and stop

wearing mask force a little while and have to rewear them. 50% of american adults fully vaccinated. 25% have natural immunity but have not been vaccinated and i heard dr. makary say this morning that leaves 15% susceptible to the delta variant. brian: much more to say on this. new video shows hundreds of migrants trying to force their way past border agents in exit. how biden's policies have opened the door for chaos and he does not seem to care. steve: speaking of texas. another state texas democrat has tested positive for covid-19. did they get them on that plane in the run away lawmakers say they're staying in d.c. for the long haul until that voting down in texas is all done. we will have that coming up next on "fox & friends" along with these great guests ♪ you are the one thing in my way ♪ you are the one thing in my way ♪ you are the one thing in my way

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♪ ♪ carley: good morning. back with your headlines, body camera video catch as braise within unprovoked attack on new york's finest. the suspect seen hitting the officer over the head with glass bottle. the officer had to get stitches and staples. police say the suspect has been arrested two previous time for assaulting police officers. officials are calling for outside aide as heat and dry conditions fuel wildfires burning out west. rescuers in oregon are devoting most resources toward the massive bootleg fire. it's forcing thousands to flee their homes this as an energy company reveals its equipment may have sparked dixie fire burning in california. smoke from the fire is causing

issues for flights across the west coast. the pentagon announcing plans to house 2500 afghan refugees who aided the u.s. operation in afghanistan at fort lee military base in virginia. many allies who served as interpreters and their families are now in grave danger as u.s. troops return home and the taliban gains ground. the white house will begin evacuating afghans by the end of july. well, "the washington post" is not holding back on hunter biden's painting scandal. the paper taking jabs at the president's embattled son in a new op-ed. the piece highlights hunter's alleged business dealings with china. they even showcase a fake art piece that reads i heart burisma the white house faces ethical questions as buyers of hunter's art can remain anonymous. those are your headlines guys. steve: some of that stuff could sell for half a million dollars? carley: yep. that's the price tag.

steve: it's pretty expensive. brian: not bad for a rookie? he has only been painting six weeks. ainsley: if somebody comes it over to your house president biden did that it's not really anonymous. steve: conversation. brian: you could say hunter bluw this painting he blows paint through the straw. ainsley: that's his medium. brian: fantastic. steve: meanwhile, let's talk a little bit about this. you know, the freedom fighters from texas. ainsley: fugitives. steve: calling them fugitives now. brian: they are. steve: rather than stay in texas and take a vote on the house bill and senate bill. they jumped into that jet plane, one of two chattered jets and headed to washington, d.c. where they are going to hold up until the voting is done in texas. here's the problem that jet appears to be a super spreader event. now that democrat, a six out of 50 some, that's north of 10% of

the people on the jet have contracted covid. another one tested positive for it yesterday. ainsley: they are quarantining inside their hotel rooms. their friends are feeding them. leaving food outside of their doors. they are cleaning all the meeting spaces. but the concern is kamala harris met with them on tuesday. the first one tested positive. steve: exposed her to it. ainsley: her spokesperson said she didn't have close contact with them. she did go to walter reed on sunday for her routine checkup on a sunday. steve: yeah right. ainsley: she apparently did get tested for covid because the test came back negative we learned that news yesterday. brian: sign feldt episode same talking point continued. what's going on here? they're running from voting because they don't like the new voting rules in texas which really go back to pre-pandemic. number two is on the plane they say they are fully vaccinated. take them at their word they're fully vaccinated six and probably more are going to get the covid-19 virus. what does that say? well, they have cold like

symptoms? what does this also say? the vaccine is not nearly as effective against this delta variant as they say. if you look at what is happening in britain. they say 70% of the new cases are fullly vaccinated people with the pfizer vaccine. nobody talks about that still at that word 97% of those who are hospitalized here in the u.s. or most of your vaccinated you are really not susceptible to this variant. well, that can't be true if you look at what is happening in the u.k. and israel. and now look at what is happening on beto o'rourke's private jet that his foundation financed. steve: maybe it proves that you should be wearing a mask on the jet. ainsley: one of them did admit that they should have. steve: absolutely. peter doocy inquired about that and other things yesterday with jen psaki who had this to say. watch. >> is there any safety concern about her spending time around the president until a certain amount of time has passed? >> well, first i would say that the think the vice president's

office put out that she was tested and that she did -- there was no detection of covid-19. >> do officials here wish that those texas democrats would have been more careful and taken more precautions like wearing masks on the flight here? >> again, i don't think i'm going to be in a position here to assess what safety precautions they may or may not have taken. obviously, these individuals were out there trying to elevate the issue of an individual's right to vote. we, of course, hope everybody abides. steve: here's the thing. apparently because some of them have covid, and they -- despite what was said, they ultimately did expose the vice president to covid as well. it has jeopardized the texas democrats meeting with the president. apparently they had written a letter to him and said we would like to meet with you. i'm sure the white house would think this would be a great photo op. like everything else. now because they have got do everything via zoom that ain't going to happen. ainsley: the report says it's going to cost $1.5 million for

them to stay in d.c. until august. steve: this has completely backfired. ainsley: exactly. here is what some of them -- listen, i'm so sorry that they have covid. i have been praying for them. i hope they get better and i hope this doesn't get worse for them. when they were asked about leaving the state, they said they are going to stay in d.c. they have given up a lot and sacrificed a lot. here is more of what they said. >> it's challenging for our members who are leaving behind members families and jobs business. young children in many cases. that was what was hard about it. but it was easy in the sense that this was the only option we had. >> every single one of us in this delegation have a day job. now, we have to struggle. but, you know, unlike a lot of republicans in our chamber. we are not millionaires. >> we plan to be here to kill these bills in texas that make it harder to exercise our freedom to vote. we have got democrats who have locked in. and we're planning to be here

for the duration to bide congress some time to act. brian: what crownish behavior. they are doing this lark because of 24-hour voting stopped. we never had that prior to have the pandemic. drive-thru voting? since when is that commonplace? mailing absentee ballots to every eligible. how many multiple ballots ended up at your house who longer live in the place you live. reigning things in after the pandemic. voter i.d. something 70% of the country want. congratulations spending $200 a night on beto o'rourke's super pac dollar. when the stops, the government governor is going to start another one in austin. when you land, you are more than likely going to be arrested. who thought this out? ainsley: why don't they compromise? why don't they say everyone has to have an i.d. and leave the polls open 24 hours. steve: ultimately it's going to pass in texas. it's all promotion for the we the people act.

the big congress is trying to pass and it doesn't look as if that is going to happen either. dan crenshaw is going done on our program coming up at 8:30 this morning right here on "fox & friends." all right. meanwhile. yesterday we introduced you to a grandmother down in washington, d.c. who lost her granddaughter in a random shooting. ainsley: 6 years old. steve: there is a picture of nyiah courtney right there. this happened the night before the national games people were running for their lives. brazen nominee a toyota started shooting at other people as is the case in so many of these instances now. one person leaving the ballgame was shot. a fan. a couple other people were hit. and now the mayor there says, you know what? i don't care what it costs. we have got to -- forget about the defund the police. we're going to have to put some money in some pockets and they are running for their lives and we are going to have to get more cops on the beat. ainsley: the mayor says this in

this letter to city council. the terrible incidents of this past weekend include will murder of nyiah courtney. i am directing the metropolitan police department to use any overtime necessary. brian: good. ainsley: any overtime necessary to meet our public safety need. while the use of overtime is tool is not ideal solution as it result on the burn 1kwr0u9 of officers. the better solution is to fully staff our police force. steve: good for her. ainsley: good for her. we intriewted grandmother andrea courtney lives at the house with the family. nyiah just had her hair braided the week before about because she said she wanted to be twins with her grandmother. the grandmother said she wanted to be a dancer, maybe a doctor, maybe a veterinarian. her teachers went on and on about how special she is. she just got accepted to this charter school. she was going into the first grade. here is the grandmother. >> i don't feel safe for me or

my family. she didn't deserve this we did nothing to anyone. or they didn't care that the police was present. and i feel like that if they was that bold to do that, why not get out of the vehicle and walk up on your person that you are trying to hit instead of shooting into a crowd with children in it. brian: they don't care. most of this stuff is divangs. that's what eric adams was saying too. democratic nominee destroy curtis. because there is so much in new york city in manhattan. eric adams came out. he is a former nypd captain. 22 years on the force. >> we have big critic of the force which got him on the wrong side with bill bratton and ray kelly and bernie kerik in the past. many people are hopeful, fingers crossed, that he understands how

bad crime is in the city was that one the safest in the city maybe the world. listen to him yesterday. >> our city is eroding. it really has become a place where lawlessness is the norm. that is just unacceptable. you know, we have lost our ability to understand what it is to be a good neighbor. steve: it is lawless in parts of new york city. there are a lot of people who are freaked out. keep in mind, right over here, a block away is times square. we had those random shootings. randomly a marine was hit. randomly a family leaving a toy store was hit. the city of san francisco wants to make sure that, you know, tourism is not impacted in san francisco. the city by the bay, so, yesterday, they ordered more cops deployed to the tourist spot. so that what happens here doesn't happen in san francisco. what happened outside the gnatss park in washington, d.c. doesn't

happen there they are anticipating a comeback. and a lot of it is driven by tourists. ainsley: eric adams said be a good neighbor. a simple message watching mr. rodgers be a good neighbor. people are so selfish. they are doing what they want to do. you have gangs, violence, break up family. steve: who are they afraid of. ainsley: richard fowler was telling me. he was on "the five" yesterday he was telling me i agree grew up. his house. he lived there in the same block as this little 6-year-old that was killed and he said there are tons of liquor stores. drug deals happening. people just hang out there. there are a lot of gangs. and then the grandmother said they're just driving through. cops are on the street. they have no regard for the police. they are spraying bullet throughout the neighborhood and it ends up hitting this little girl. brian: boys in crypts aren't looking to be good neighbors just arrested the other day. you go back to elm fall. i do have a friend story

unrelated to ainsley's story. i'm going to hold it now talk about crime again in this three hour extravaganza. ainsley: what a tease. stick around for that. brian: you will ainsley. here all three hours. now guidance from the american academy of pediatrics stressing return to the classroom but only with universal masking for everyone older than 2. how dumb is that? dr. marc siegel says they're completely ignoring the facts. ♪ ♪ millions of vulnerable americans struggle to get reliable transportation to their medical appointments. that's why i started medhaul. citi launched the impact fund to invest in both women and entrepreneurs of color like me, so i can realize my vision and give everything i've got to my company, and my community. i got you.

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essentially once they have liftoff, the entire flight will last around 10 minutes. they will reach mawch 3 or three times the speed of sound. the booster and capsule will separate. hoping to get past 62-mile mark in altitude. once in space the crew will get a few miles of weightlessness great view of the planet and head back down with the ground with the capsule parachuting to safety. base zoz spoke with our own neil cavuto prior to the launch on monday and asked about his feelings leading up to this historic moment. >> i am excited but not anxious. we will see how i feel, you know, when i'm strapped into my seat. i have said we are ready the vehicle is ready. this team is amazing i feels very good about it and my fellow crew mates feel good about it. >> toby bezos his brother and two other passengers 82-year-old

aviation legend wally funk who trained to got space in the 1960s but wasn't allowed to because she was a woman. she will be the oldest in space. then you have 18-year-old oliver damond. called up after the original $28 million bidder for the seat backed out due to scheduling conflicts. he will be the youngest in space. and all of this happening just nine days after another billionaire richard branson and his virgin galactic team sent that nowrnd space big steps for the future space tourism today. brian? brian: all right. thanks, jeff. look forward to seeing what's going to happen. no one does anything. all automated but going to be fun. meanwhile talk to a panel of spacex%. space station commander and bill nelson, nsa administrator, eileen collins. first female pilot and first commander of the space shuttle coming your way as we count down to liftoff. ainsley? ainsley: very exciting, thanks,

brian. health experts at the american academy of pediatrics issues new guidance returning to the classroom with universal masking for any child over the age of 2 even if they're vaccinated. here to react is fox news medical contributor dr. marc siegel. good morning, dr. siegel. >> hi, ainsley how are you? ainsley: hi. doing well. these are just recommendations. who do the schools listen to? what do you think is going to happen in the fall? >> well, recommendations, but then local ordnances may take them up and make them mandates, right? what's really disturbing about it is, first of all again sending the message you got the vaccine is it working? because it is working why would you then need a mask mandate. secondly, what about natural immunity? kids that have gotten over covid are not spreading it. thirdly, this less than a 1% chance of a child spreading covid. the younger they are, if they have it, spreading it in the school is less than 1%. if they -- the idea is that kids are not super spreaders. i recommend masks for kids but

big downside to the mask in terms slotion. learning, learning to read. anxiety that occurs. rashes, dizziness. all kinds of problems. make a health assessment if it takes all of that into the case. not the way to go here. ains thank you, dr. siegel. let's talk about the origins i know you sat down with francis collins the national institutes of health director. he says we can't exclude the lab leak. what else did you learn from him? why is he saying that? what gives him that information? >> well, you know, i spoke to dr. collins head of the nih a top geneticist study deed doesn't think bioengineered. now changing to the idea talking now about petrie dishes and animals, you know, mice in the lab as opposed to what he called before nature's bioterrorist so he has changed. let's take a look. >> i do not believe this virus was human engineered but i can't exclude that there was, in fact,

a laboratory that was studying the naturally occurring virus and perhaps a laboratory investigator got infected accidentally and then it spread out of there. that would be a lab leak. >> why would he be changing ainsley? i will tell you why. people getting sick in the lab as he said. new structures of the virus coming out. that show it did not come from a wet market which dr. collins also said. there is a lot of evidence here pointing towards lab leak. why would that matter? if we had known that this was a lab leak like we were all talking about early last spring, we would have put a tremendous amount of pressure on the w.h.o. that was enabling china and maybe figured out where this virus came from which would have predicted what happened next. none of that happened. it's fine to be saying it now. i'm glad dr. collins is saying it's a big possibility. i wish he had been saying it back last april. ainsley: last april he did send an email to dr. fauci and the

headline was conspiracy gain momentum since then a lot as changed. a lot covid might have started in a lab and now is he changing. thank you, dr. siegel, for joining us. >> thank you, ainsley always a pleasure. always. ainsley: always a pleasure to have you on. hundreds try to pass border. retired ice director tom homan says this is the response that he expected to biden's open invitation. ♪

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tom, good morning to you. >> good morning. steve: you see all those people on the next can side of the border waiting to come in because they heard joe biden and his people say essentially, don't come, but really it's come on over and we will let you in. >> yeah, because, look, their actions speak louder than the words, they can say don't come. >> but these people and the cartels are pushing the fact that thousands are being allowed into the united states. most are aren't being detained. being released without a court date with a brand new iphone compliments of the taxpayer. only got to be smuggled to the border. once they get, in the u.s. government taxpayer funded plane tickets get them to their final destination. >> we have people criminal organizations smuggling. steve: what do you mean they give them an iphone. >> some of these contracts ice has they are actually giving smart phone because they believe

that ankle bracelets used to use are now cruel and inhumane criminalizing them for entering the country illegally. thought ones who begged for ankle bracelets for years because they didn't want them locked in detention centers. they don't want ankle bracelets they want them released on own recognizance. over half don't show up in court. steve: ultimately talking about the ability of the federal government to track the people down, you know, through their -- through the united states. but, there is -- you know, there is no -- there is no penalty for them being in the united states now. you can be in the united states i will i will really and it seems like they are not going to get in trouble. >> right. can you track them all you want. look, this administration also decapitated ice. ice can no longer arrest somebody for being here illegally there are hundreds of thousands of fugitives. immigration judges ordered them removed from the country and ice

cannot arrest them and execute that order anymore. of not under this administration. steve: we're going to put up real quickly a graphic that shows the number of people that came into the country in june, this past june approaching 200,000 last june, it was about 34,000. of course, that was during the pandemic. but, if you are trying to get into the country, who cares about that? and those numbers are just going to continue to get bigger through the summer, aren't they? >> they are going to get bigger because, look, this administration -- since january, this crisis started, steve, you can't tell me one thing this administration has done to slow the flow. every week they come out with another give away. we are not going to detain you or give you another court date. now they want to change the rules of asylum because they know 90% don't qualify. so now they are changing the rules where more people qualify which would bring more people to the border. steve: it's a vicious cycle. all right. it's not going to stop any time soon. tom, thank you very much for your point of view. >> thank you, it's going to get worse. watch and see.

steve: all right. great. that's cheery news. all right, tom, thank you, sir. all right. let's go outside our world headquarters where janice dean is going to be sunny and it's going to be 90 today in the big town. janice: you are correct in new york city. make way for sunshine. take a look at temperatures across the map. i will show you where it's still warm over the northwest today with temperatures in the 80's and 90-degree heat. there you go. right now it's 70 in mazzulla. 60 in seattle and 70 in new york city. showers and thunderstorms in the forecast for part of the gulf coast in towards florida and the east coast as well. there is the forecast. we are not talking about big storm systems but some of that news sans rainfall and across the southwest, yes, it's a good news situation that they could be getting a little bit of moisture. but some of that could evaporate and leave dry lightning and that could spark some more wildfire dangers. we will keep you up to date on that. a couple of systems in the pacific moving away from land. we are not going to worry about

them too much. all right, steve, my friend. back to you. steve: all right. j.d., before you go. here in about two hours they are going to blast off from west texas blue origin, clear, whether right? >> so far. we could see some scattered storms later on today. fingers crossed should be a okay for liftoff. back to you. steve: very good. >> you got it. steve: still ahead on tuesday telecast. america is in about in need of 1 million construction workers. our next guest says it's not the pay that's keeping the health away. it's the lack of interest among young americans that business owner is going to join us next. later, dr. ben carson shares how to fight against critical race theory. you are watching "fox & friends." it's tuesday. live from new york city. ♪ ♪ from prom dresses to workouts and new adventures you hope the more you give the less they'll miss.

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morally wrong decision and turn out to be a business mistake. the company will not renew license agreement when it expires at the end of next year. there are new reports that prince harry did not warn his father, prince imharls his upcoming memoir the explosive tell-all is expected to earn limb $20 million which harry is planning to donate to charity. will boog book is set to hit shelves next year. prince harry said i'm not writing this as a prince i was born but man i have become. i'm happy to have people read firsthand account of my life that is accurate and wholly truthful. brian, over to you. brian: thanks. seven minutes before the top of the hour. a shortage of construction workers across the country forcing many business owners to work alongside the construction staff that still might not be good enough. the industry needs to hire 430,000 workers this year alone and 1 million more over the next two years to keep up with demand. our next guest warns this generation's lack of interest in

the trade is making it even tougher to hire. matthew metzger is the owner of solar maintenance he joins us now. matthew when did you realize this was going to be a problem? >> good morning, brian. it's great to be with you. i have been hiring in the construction trades for 10 years for small mom and pops in new york tesla last 10 years it's been difficult to hire people in the trades. for that i he remember people who used a tape measure for since the pandemic has hit it has become an emergency for us in the trades. the single biggest issue for my business right now is hiring you don't have people who want to get in the business. offering between 22 and $24 an hour? >> yeah.

we have we have had to increase wages we had to offer by 40% just to get some applicants in the door. i had a job posted for an entry level position at $22 an hour for a month and a half. on indeed.com. and it was fmla. i increased it to 23 it was flat. i increased it to 24. some applicants started to trickle in. but i still have these higher level positions, folks show ho have been in the trades for a long time that i'm looking to fill. despite increasing the offering for those jobs. i'm still not getting applicants. brian: matt, real quick, you sometimes have to swing a hammer yourself? >> yes, i'm be wearing my work clothes today. it's a long sleeve shirt we're going to be out in the sun. it keeps the uv off of me. your correspondent said a 90-degree day. i'm out in the field. i was out in the field this weekend. as i grow the business, i want to satisfy the demand for solar repairs which is a really growing business.

i want to keep my customers happy and that means i need to both meet my deadline during the day 9:00 to 5:00 and then return their calls from 5:00 to 8:00 at night. it's a challenge right now. brian: you got some skills though, too. john rattenberger and mike roe have said the real thing you out in the real world saying learn these trades america needs you. thanks so much. appreciate it? >> yeah. thanks for having me. brian: you got it. coming n about two hours. counting down to the historic launch all morning long. what it means to you. ♪ overwhelmed by the ups and downs

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strapped into my seat. >> pete hegseth for the turning point u.s.a. action summit. >> america is the most free, most diverse and most awesomeness country the world has ever seen. [cheers and applause] ♪ i hit the ground ♪ i hit the ground ♪ ♪ steve: yeah, that's jeff bezos he is the richest man on earth. and he will leave the planet in the next two hours as blue origin launches a little before the end of our show today. it is the first manned mission to space for his company and the pause is actually going to be in the capsule at the top of the rocket as it takes off. and there you can see screen left that's the 18-year-old kid whose dad is a i think a financial analyst or hedge fund guy. then you have wally funk, 82 years old. then you have got geraldine ferraro bezos and his brother. they're all going to be sitting on top of that rocket.

you will see them get in in the next hour. ainsley: oliver the 1-year-old was not supposed to be othen flight. the person who won the lottery he ended up pulling out so this 18-year-old was supposed to be on the next launch and they decided to let him on taking advantage they're sending the youngest and the oldest up into space. brian: who is the guy that had a scheduling conflict and couldn't go up in state? ainsley: paid 28 million. brian: i'm not going to reschedule this dentist. ainsley: all i could think about daughter getting married. what would make you buy it and not go. steve: maybe it's because it's the first one do you really want to be on the first one. brian: who wouldn't pay for a ticket if the owner wouldn't go on first. it's the perfect idea. all lined up with tickets. they don't have anything to do. fully automated tried it 14 times before. go 60 plus miles above the earth. three miles further than branson. he will technically be the

winner even though he goes second. another spacecraft to go after that. ainsley: not competition building roads for future generations. ainsley: we paid for that amazon. he owns amazon. brian: not like it's government paid. he earned it. ainsley: all of the boxes that your daughter gets caitlin katie. she doesn't put her last name on the boxes and brian say they get so many boxes every day from amazon. brian: katie. no last name. i don't even think it's an address. she just writes katie. pete hegseth. steve: just pete. brian: "fox & friends" per diem money all week long. maxed us out. we are already screwed for july. i have to wait for august to travel. >> yeah, and when i check in, i use the name brian kilmeade so i can't be found. whatever i need to do. just brian. pete: brian, that works. maybe the guy that didn't go up in state got the yips.

someone gets on the top much the roller coaster and says i'm not going down. here at turning point. by the way, i don't remember the last time you guys got me a gift, which is okay. don't worry about it but kayleigh mcenany, my co-host of the all access live show got me this wonderful tampa bay shirt. really is really nice. steve: pete, we were all at your wedding. we got you gifts. what are you talking about? pete: that's a good point. i'm sorry. i take it back. steve and your wife wrote us a very nice thank you note. pete: i'm sure she did. she is always cleaning up after me that's the truth of the matter. we will do another alexis live 9:30 this morning. covered the big on stage. it's like a rock concert. you feel like you are performing when you really just giving a good old fashioned speech. that's what i tried to do yesterday.

focus on the culture and the fact that, you know, andrew breitbart famously said politics is downstream of culture. when i tried to focus on actually my pastor said it from the pulpit. actually culture is down stream faith. what you believe in reminding myself like what we have to do a day that the big values, god and country is are what we have to be grounded in if we are going to keep this public. a lot of themes like that that we heard from the stage and fireworks. i never new good old fashioned fireworks. i will take it pretty cool down here. brian: much like acdc similar show. ainsley like to travel. we like you to challenge you on this god and country thing. ainsley, go ahead. you are upset by that? ainsley: i loved your speech and not upset by it. i'm sorry you say faith, family and freedom. >> faith, family and freedom. those are the f words right now fighting over our founding whether it's good or not.

it's those faith line things. you guys know that come on. steve: you are doing it here on fox by the way turning point streaming all. if you don't have it free month go fox nation.com and enter the promo code sas and you will see mr. pete there live. peter, thank you very much. brian: meanwhile jed joe biden comes out and gives a speech he squints into the camera and tells everybody to get a vaccine and yells at you and tells great idea about economics if money is going -- if inflation is going up and our deficit is going up, i have a great idea. let's spend money we don't have on programs we can't afford. and as your head was spinning on that, he opened up for questions. the first question he actually thanked the questionnaire because it was gave him a chance to do some, i guess, patchwork on a ridiculous statement he made on friday that facebook was

killing people. here he is addressing that remark two days later. >> what's your message to platforms like facebook? >> they're killing people. i mean, look, the only pandemic we have is among the unvaccinated. and that -- and they're killing people. >> facebook, of all the misinformation, 60% of the misinformation came from 12 individuals. facebook isn't killing people. these 12 people are out there giving misinformation. anyone listening to it is getting hurt by it it's killing people. it's bad information. my hope is that facebook, instead of taking it personally that somehow i'm saying that facebook is killing people, that they would do something about the misinformation. brian: why would they take that personally in they are so sensitive. ainsley: come on, you are just saying this because you didn't reach the vaccine goal on

july 4th of having 70% vaccinated. steve: he miss it by a mile. of course it all got started on thursday when jen psaki said flagging problematic for facebook. hey, get rid of all these people posting all this stuff. the disinformation it that he is referring, to number two on the list is bobby kennedy jr. who is a big prolific anti-vaxer. he is one of the sources. but rather than just call him up. he is from the most prominent democratic family in america, rather than calling him up and saying bobby, come on over, let's talk about this, they gave the list to facebook and said do something about it yesterday, she, jen psaki said, do you know what? we are not asking them to take things down. she walked back everything and said the white house not flagging posts for facebook to censor as she originally said. but now said they are not asking facebook to block any individual post. so they -- it has really hit the

fan because, think about. brian: does anyone believe that. steve: the biden people are getting from facebook and for them to say hey, you are killing people. that doesn't help them. brian: they told us last week they are working with facebook. and say they are killers. now say they are not working with facebook. ainsley: and not killers. brian: people against vaccines period we see them every day in life. there is people think that it's linked to autism. we have had that debate on our show. we have had guests on that. i didn't know it was illegal to post that. ainsley: we all have the information. blame game what you are reading on facebook. pete and all of our reporters are down there interviewing these students. they say we like to have all the research and information and let us make up our own minds don't take away our freedom of speech. we all know that masks help us. we know there is social distancing. we know there are three different vaccines we can get that are readily available in the u.s. we have the information. now it's up to you to make your own mind up after you meet your doctor. after you talk with the medical

expert. not trying to play doctor. up to you to make up your own mind. brian: i recommend that everyone read the "wall street journal" editorial personal prude dense is fine. people can calculate their own tolerance. politicians should take lockdowns the biggest mistake of the pandemic off the table. 80% of those 65-60% of all adults fully vaccinated. this is not something for the government to get involved with at this point. the biden administration they go on to say has made a huge mistake promising miracles of beating covid. they're blaming tech companies, republican run states who won't persuade the vaccine doubters, they never real. some honest realism about covid persistence might. also, locking down will do nothing for americans except breed more resentment. steve: right. because we don't ever want to have another lockdown like that. we found out after we had locked down there is certain, to your point, ainsley, you wear a mask, you social distancing. and wearing plexiglass and the

numbers started of going down. real lifesaver has been the vaccine can you get it if your doctor says you are okay for it get it will save your life. but, at the same time, to the white house's point there has been a lot of misinformation out there. however, ben domenech last night had this observation about that and how it figures in to pressuring the big social media companies. >> this really does betray a certain aspect of the failure of the approach when it comes to our government over the past several months and getting people vaccinated as i have said before, the real reason that people aren't doing this or you have seen the levels of vaccination slow have to do with government policies themselves. when people were promised if you get vaccinated there will be results, positive results and they see these different policies across the country being rolled back, the potential for mask monday dates to come back and the like, this has an effect where that lever being pulled means that people say well then why should i even

bother being vaccinated? brian: remember they told us services they told us outside wear activist that. now we know it's almost impossible. services are almost impossible to get it if you are vaccinated you should not wear activist movement i'm waiting for them to reverse that because of political pressure. cdc said you are vaccinated no mask. a month ago? are we going to believe it today. that's the most ridiculous thing. that's why people have no faith because they change with politics in those emails with the teachers unions revealed all that the ideas policy becomes what the teacher's unions want. you lost me with that. steve: part of the problem now we heard have from so many people and heard from the governor in new jersey yesterday, the pandemic now is with the people who are unvaccinated. given the fact that the most of the rules, the guidelines, for instance, in this building, in this building if you have had the vaccine, you don't have to wear a mask. but if you have not had the vaccine you need to still wear a mask. there are a lot of people who

are in situations where they are in building, where you are supposed to be masked if you are not vaccinated but they are faking it. and they are not wearing it ultimately then, they are spreading it to other people. brian: but you don't get it -- if you are vaccinated, so you are only putting yourself at risk or somebody else who isn't vaccinated at risk. the percentage is so small unless you don't want to believe the numbers, there really isn't a risk. so people are just taking their own health in their own hands which is called the way the united states of america usually exists. ainsley: let's talk about immigration, speaking of the united states. some people want to be here in our country they are down on our southern border in the dell reosector. cubans, venezuelans and haitians 300 of them. steve: a mob scene. ainsley: trying to let one family at a time in. instead they all forced their way through the gate. it turned into a mob scene. you are right, steve. steve: it did. soon after single adults and

others not chosen attempted to force their way through the gate along with the family. because they have been hearing, you know, when joe biden was rubbing, he said, if i win, you're going to be welcome to the united states. well, you know what? they want to get in before it's too late. even though the administration says don't come the message is we are going to let you. in look at all those people who are come in. tom homan had this observation in the last hour right here about how the administration is doing nothing to stop the surge, which is surgeoning. >> their actions spook louder than the words. they can say don't come. these people and the cartels are pushing the fact that thousands are being allowed into the united states. most aren't being detained. since january this crisis started, steve, you can't tell me one thing this administration has done to slow the flow. every week they come out with another give away. we are not going to detain you. we are not going to give you a court date.

recently they want to change the rules of asylum because they know 90% don't qualify. now they are changing the rules where more people qualify which will bring more people to the border. it's going to get worse, watch and see. brian: let me tell you the worse is coming in september. do you know what it is? they will try to jam in this reconciliation bill immigration infrastructure down our throat legalizing that chaos on the border. the same president that squints into the camera, struggle glick to make out what the prompter says, saying you better be responsible for get vaccinated is allowing people from hundreds of countries, thousands of people on a daily basis. almost 200,000 last month to come in without vaccination cards no idea their medical history and let loose on the infrastructure of our country. don't tell me you care about our health. set release title 42 allows you to say in an a medical emergency shut down the border. get rid of that and let another 200 to a million people in

without w. absolutely knowing nothing about their medical history. yet, you want to know what i'm doing at the movie theater or in my office space or at a restaurant? you can't have it both ways and ask for credibility from this country. ainsley: so ron desantis said he was talking to barred agent or some of the officers down in texas. and this is interesting. they told him almost 70% of those that they are -- they are coming in contact with down at the border on their way to the state of florida. steve: where are you going? florida. ainsley: 2,000 appear bree hences, 100 felony arrest. almost 70% of everybody they have come in contact with their ultimate destination is florida. brian: republican run states that seem to be working out and allow the thing called freedom. by the way, are we going to knock on their doors to find out if they're vaccinated or not with their army of biden engineers? i can't wait to see how that goes. steve: ultimately to ron desantis' point if you have thousands of people coming into

the country who ultimately will need some sort of government assistance, where is that money going to be coming from? is it going to be coming from uncle sam? brian: yes. steve: i think he would like it to. but nobody has authorized that money. brian: yes, they have. they have re-purposed the money to build migrant facilities from pandemic aid. i think $600 million just for the hotel stays over the last month. from the 188,000 that are here. we're paying for all of this. nice hotel rooms from people from other countries. while in canada we won't let the toronto blue jays in because we're concerned about them but we're going to allow our gates to open from everywhere else. steve: that's when they're coming into the country. when they actually come to the states, then they are part of the community. and if they need government assistance brian britain they get it. steve: where does that money come from? taxes. ainsley: carley has our headlines. carley: we will start your headlines with this. police in washington, d.c. say they have located the car wanted in connection with to the deadly shooting of a 6-year-old girl.

sources tell wtop the car was set on fire. investigators still hope it could lead them to nyiah courtney's killer. the child's mother and four other adults were also hurt in the drive by shooting over the weekend. radio talk show host larry elder announces he will sue california's secretary of state to get on the recall election ballot. elder said the state told him he was disqualified due to issues with income tax returns. elder argue was that no previous candidate has ever been disqualified for such a reason adding he will go to court over the matter. speaking of court. the new attorney for britney spears is working to remove her father as conservativer. >> my father and i are moving aggressively and expeditiously to file a petition to remove jamie spears unless he resigns first. carley: the hearing addressing

spears' fee another 50 grand per month for increased security. spears case will be heard again nextmond. you are looking live at the first of its kind spaceship as it sits on the launch pad on board will be billionaire jeff intaz zos along with three other people. moments ago crews took it out of a hanger. the launch is set to happen around 9:00 eastern time. you can watch it live on fox and come up in the next 20 minutes, a live report from van horn, texas ahead of the liftoff. that is where the liftoff is taking place, guys. ainsley: janice says the weather looks good right now. carley: good news. steve: perfect. thanks so much carley. carley: you bet. steve: next guest silenced by big tech. now fighting back by running for office. introduce you to the newest candidate for congress next up on our telecast. ainsley: as parents and educators nationwide continue to

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left joins us now with her exciting announce: cair line tell us what the big announcement is why you are doing this thank you for having me on this morning. my name is caroline. i was born and raised in this state in a small business blue collar middle class family. i quickly learned growing up working at my family's ice cream stand everything is earned in life i applied for position in his white house in 2018. fight every single day to combat the biased fake news media. following the election i went to capitol hill to fight with elise stefanik i was proudly her spokeswoman when i was working for her i tweeted out a statement from president trump endorsing elise for the house leadership position and twitter took my account down in just hours. they gave no warning. they gave no reason. they said it was an error that

error only happens to conservatives. happening to conservatives like myself across our country. president trump was right when he said if they can censor and silence him. they can censor anyone. that's why i'm standing up to run for congress because when conservatives like myself feel like we don't have a voice and i want to ensure that especially my generation and those younger than me have one. because our conservative values and principles are what make this country great and we need to fight for. they. ainsley: you were telling me earlier that your generation is brainwashed by big tech. explain that. >> absolutely. my generation is absolutely brainwashed by big tech, by the mainstream media, by hollywood, by cancel culture and by higher education our taxpayer funded teachers are indoctrinating our students, not educating them. >> the that's why as a candidate for congress i will be talking about school choice. important issue on the minds of as cross new hampshire and our country. we as republicans need to take a look in the mirror and realize

we are losing with my generation. my generation voted overwhelmingly for president biden. if we want to change that trend, we need to start electing young candidates to office to start changing some minds. young people built this great nation. our founding fathers were young when they signed the constitution. the men who stormed the beaches of normandy and turned the tide of the world war were young. ainsley: you are 23 years old. you would be 25 if you beat the incumbent which is a democrat. >> yes, that's absolutely right. i would be the first republican woman from new hampshire to be elected. it's an historic race all eyes on new hampshire. i have been crisscrossing the state let me tell you the energy here for conservative change is real. my representative is a puppet for nancy pelosi he votes with her almost 100 percent of the time he acts and talks like a moderate but is he a radical. that's why i'm asking all of your viewers please to join me in the fight. let's do this for the future of our country. let's do this to advance the america first agenda.

it's caroline for congress.com. karoline with a k. karoline for coming.com. ainsley: karoline left. scooping ice cream to it white house and possibly coming. wish you all the best i'm sure your parents are prout of you. thanks, karoline. dr. ben carson taking up the fight against critical race theory. how he says his upbringing taught him to stabbed against indoctrination and we are getting closer to the historic blue oorigin spaceflight. we have a live report from the launch site. ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ steve: 87 minutes from right now amazon founder jeff bezos is set to travel from space on board the new shepard rocket. crews transporting the rocket to the launch pad just moments ago. jeff paul is as close as he can get in van horn, texas. jeff, there are no public viewing areas, so you are a ways back. the best place to see it is going to be on tv. >> yeah, best place will be on

tv. just to give you an idea. you can see some of the lights behind us. that's actually just a barn where they keep the spacecraft. so we are about three miles away from the launch site. as you said, the closest we can get. we are learning that, again, the spacecraft named the new shepard after allen shepard, the first american in space was wheeled out. rolled out to the launch pad and the crew is in their final stages of preparation and, again, just a really big day for not only jeff bezos but for the future of space tourism and space exploration. bezos taking a big step but also joining another billionaire virgin galactic founder richard branson who did the same thing with his team about nine days ago. much different operations though. you know, you look at virgin galactic. they have a space plane with blue origin not like your traditional rocket it takes off vertically. once it is launched into space that booster that got the

capsule to space will then land vertically to be reused later. whereas branson's ship it landed like the space shuttle would. so bezos and team hoping to land safely in a capsule via parachute. jeff bezos though talking about, obviously, their operations are much different than virgin galactic but the sort of goal and the future of space travel and tourism is sort of the same. >> this is a tourism mission. it's very important because it lets us practice and it will let more people get up into space. that practice is what will allow us to build the infrastructure to let the next generations of people really do amazing things in space. >> now, steve, another big difference between this flight and the last flight that we watched is that this will be fully automated. so no pilots on board. as of now, it looks like conditions are holding up and we are hoping to have that 9:00 a.m. eastern launch.

steve? steve: thank you very much. just before they do launch, we have assembled a panel of spacex% to do the analysis and tell us what we are going to see. international space station commander, bill nelson nsa administrator and eileen collins the first female commander of a space shuttle. so it's a big day in space. you will see it right here on "fox & friends." brian? brian: all right, meanwhile, accomplished neurosurgeon former presidential candidate and served as the secretary of housing and urban development did a great job. dr. ben stellar did a great job. that's why he is warning about the dangers of critical race theory. he wrote an op-ed for foxnews.com. growing up poor in detroit if i had believed that my destiny was based on my race i am not be where i am today. we cannot allow crt to rob american children of that same hope instilled on me. former hud secretary dr. ben carson joins us now. we had not made the progress we

had made on race relations that we have in 2021 when you were growing up. why do you think that those conditions of you growing up as adversarial as they were made you who you are? >> well, i had a mother who insisted that i read there were all kind of negative people around me who were saying you can't succeed. the system is stacked against you. racism will keep you from being whatever you want to be. but, when i read those books, and i read about scientists and explorers and surgeons and entrepreneurs, i began to see that the person who had the most to do with what happens to you is you. it's not the society. it's not people who get in your way. there are people in the way. things have changed pretty dramatically since then. when i was a kid and a black person came on television who wasn't an aservant. so exciting. everybody would come running into the living room. we don't have that situation today. now we have black generals, and

admirals, and ceos of fortune 500 companies and ivy league university presidents. president of the united states. a vice president. this is not to say that everything is fine and that there is a panacea but things have dramatically improved. we need to continue to work on it and then we need to also understand what's going on with this critical race theory where we are trying to teach people that the color of their skin is the major determinant in their life. how does that make any sense? the same people who say that say that something so hard wired like your sex doesn't matter. you can determine that based on how you feel. i mean, really is illogical quite frankly. and we need to get rid of it. brian: i want to bring to you your last sentence. if there is any sell investor lining in marxist aggressive zeal it's that the efforts are waking up the nation lake few issues in recent memory. mobilizing citizens around the

country so being ask ourselves why capitalism and america matters could be a good thick. >> i think it's a very good thing. frog in a simmerly can slowly turning up the heat. now somebody turned it up full force and the frogs are jumping out and speaking up. that's good. because that's what america is. and american people are smart. they are not just stupid little sheep. and that's very different from a lot of other places in the world. that's why this is not going to succeed. brian: not only did you grow up to become a surgeon, one of the best in the world. and you weren't done yes. and then you served in government and you haven't stopped. who knows maybe another run for president. dr. ben carson. thanks so much for putting it all in perspective. >> thank you, brian. brian: you got it pete hegseth spoke to young conservatives at turning point u.s.a. summit. he joins us live to recan't event and share his message against socialism next ♪

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♪ >> back stage here at turning point at the student action summit out there a couple thousand young people. really the future of the conservative movement. pete: what you see on your college campus is only a manifestation of what progressives, socialists, communists and marxists have very intentionally done over the last 100 years. america is the most free, most just, most diverse, most tolerant, most prosperous, most powerful and most awesomeness country the world has ever seen. we can't lie to ourselves anymore and say well, we can just kind of be the closeted conservatives doing our thing. you are going to have to be the counter revolutionary. keep reading. keep studying.

keep investing. keep fighting. and keep praying every single night. god bless you all so much. [applause] steve: how great is that? our own pete hegseth yesterday in a t-shirt. today he put on a jacket. but it is still the same guy. pete, that was great yesterday. really what you are talking about with the young people there at turning point student action summit down in tampa is america is at a turning point. and it's up to them to help make sure that things go the way you would like them to. pete: very much. so and understanding history is a big part of understanding where we are. were it's critical race theory or socialism. it's the tip of an iceberg of a left wing project that's been going on for over 100 years. in fact, i have got a series coming out on fox nation in september. i don't think we have released a title yet. i believe it's going to be miseducation of america. which is about the 100 year progressive takeover. and the first thing they did was take god out of education, out

of our schools. now they are going for the flag and going for whether or not america is a good country. understanding where we came from is a part of understanding this as you said, steve, turning point moment we are in so that we can fortify ourselves to stand for the basics. freedom, faith, capitalism, equal justice, all the things that our declaration set in motion some 245 years ago. this audience gets it and i encourage them to keep reading, keep studying and, yes, keep praying our country under god in god we trust when we forget that, we will lose it. and the speakers you've heard on the stage over the last couple of days hit on similar themes. if you want encouragement for our country go to fox nation. check out these speeches. you can watch them one by one or watch them life today. and it's good on fox nation for exposing the rest of the country to it a couple thousand people in the auditorium or convention center but everyone has access to it now thanks to fox nation. ainsley: get a free month if you

use sas student action summit. we want you to weigh in on this. the pentagon is saying they will use military bases to house thousands of afghan interpreters. what's your reaction to that? >> i think it's great and long overdue. leave mission there you can't leave allies that fought shoulder to shoulder behind. especially if we're using same facilities or similar ones to house migrants breaking our laws to cross the border. the least we could do is to help out those and i know some of them personally who we fought with who deserve to be protected from what will be a taliban onslaught to kill them to find them, target them and kill them. psychological intimidation now. consolidating those gains later. i hope they do it expeditiously. every day matters with these folks under threat. brian: president biden's brilliant pullout kabul rocketed yesterday. no peace talks ongoing right now.

pete, thank you so much. see you soon when you wear a tie in studio. pete: not today. brian: i know. it's okay. he can pull it off. 14 minutes before the top of the hour. check in with senior meteorologist janice dean for the fox weather cast we are all waiting for. janice: yes, indeed my folks from virginia over here say hi to the folks. take look at the man's. i will show you where the temperatures are in the 70s across the east coast. i have got to tell you we have kind of a haze lingering outside here. that's because some of the smoke from the wildfires across the west has made its way to the east coast if you can belief it really incredible. showers and thunderstorms along the gulf coast. southeast and florida. see some of those showers get into the four corners region that could lead to wildfire danger because some of that moisture evaporates before it hits the ground and you are left with dry lightning. wildfire danger across portions of the interior northwest today. all right, steve, ainsley and brian, back to you. wave my friends.

steve: safe trip back to virginia. brian: on "fox news primetime" 7:00 amongst our guests mark levin and talk about the same topic that pete just brought up talk about marxism and senator rand paul on vaccination and what we should be doing. greg gutfeld. never met him. seems nice. with us from nasa and charlie kirk we have been talking about his summit all week long. steve: all right. terrific. we will be watching. meanwhile texas democrats who fled their state are now getting support from failed presidential candidate beto o'rourke. another texas congressman dan crenshaw is calling out it as a political stunt and dan is coming up. ainsley: up next, karol markowicz is celebrating the family escaping communism come to america. why she wants immigrants like her to reject the new american hatred. ♪ ♪

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liberty is as old as our country itself. [pres. george w. bush] it is the american story, a story of fallible people, united across the generations by grand and enduring ideals. [pres. barack obama] the time has come to reaffirm our enduring spirit, to carry forward that promise that all are equal and all deserve a chance to pursue their full measure of happiness. steve: 43 years ago our next guest left the soviet union for a life of freedom and opportunity here in the united states and now she she's calling on immigrants to reject the new american hatred, arguing that declaring love for your country

should not make people uncomfortable, yet it does. joining us right now, to mark this special day is today new york post columnist karol markowicz and karol, it was on this day, july 20, that you came to the united states and you regard this as your america-vers ary, right? >> i wake up on july 20 feeling like it's my birthday. it's a really big danica my house. my mom and i, tonight we're all going to go out and celebrate. we treat it like the day we were born. we came to the u.s. , our lives really started, and i was born in the soviet union in russia, and it was, your life was sort of going to go a certain way, and then we got extremely lucky and ended up in america, and its been just a miracle. we acknowledge that and we know how amazing it is to be here and so we don't have any problems saying america is the greatest country that's ever been, and there's no issue with

that. steve: and you clearly love america, and you were a patriot and in your piece, i've got a quote, not the one we'll use in the teleprompter, you write " it's a test moment to be a patriot. radicals are rewriting our history, framing america not as a shiny beacon of freedom but as a pit of wickedness." so when you look at what is going on in the united states right now, how do you feel about the people who are squandering what a great country we have? >> i just think they don't know i think that they really don't understand what's out there. i think they don't get that there's a big world out there and america, for all of the things that we might have done wrong in our history, we're nowhere near, you know, the other countries and the crimes that they committed. it's just you have to look at history in more than just a myop ic, very america-centric way and look, america, again, is imperfect. we're going through a lot of things right now but i believe in us and i think that we have a

really strong foundation that we're really a beacon to people all around the world who want to be freed. there's a reason they wave those american flags. we are that hope for those people. steve: sure and i know last week when you saw the people in havana waving the flags, it was all over again for you, and at the conclusion of your piece you talk about how do i pass along my effortless love of this country to my children? how do you do that? >> it's tough, so again, my russian community, i don't know if people are aware of this but ex-soviet people who live in the united states are the most patriotic. shout out to my community, we are america-loving people and it's really tough to say, you know, to pass that along to our kids who have had every benefit of living here without any of the struggle. they don't know what their grandparents went through. i mentioned in the piece my mother never saw her father again. that was just a sacrifice she had to make to get her kids to freedom to get her kids a better life. my kids don't understand that.

they grew up in brooklyn and live a life of freedom already. it's hard but we talk about it all the time, about how lucky they are and how blessed they are to be here. steve: well you feel blessed to be here and you regard today as your america-versary. it's like a birthday but then again you also have a birthday in april, april 18 so you get two birthdays you're so lucky. >> that's right but this is the main one. steve: it is indeed. her op-ed is terrific, read it at new yorkpost.com. karol thank you very much. >> thank you. steve: coming up at the top of the hour the countdown is getting closer as we are now just about an hour and two minutes away from jeff bezos blasting into space. you will see it live on fox news channel, so stick around. the countdown to launch. >> ♪ ♪ people everywhere living with type 2 diabetes are waking up to what's possible with rybelsus®. ♪ you are my sunshine ♪

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steve: dr. ben carson shares how to fight against critical race theory. >> we need to get rid of it. american people are smart. >> we are getting closer to the historic blue origin space flight. >> this is a fully automated flight, so that means there will be no pilots on board. >> i am excited but not anxious we'll see how i feel when i'm strapped into my seat. [laughter] >> ♪ brian: you know, he might be the second billionaire to launch in two weeks but he's certainly front and center right now i'm talking about the guy who founded amazon against all odds and we know how successful that has been and then he founded blue origin program, and now, it is about to go into space, with him in it, if you want to prove there's something safe, become a billionaire, the richest man in the world and go up in that rocket. it'll be a lot easier to sell seats. ainsley: they're taking off at 9:00 this morning we're being

told the astronauts will walk about 8:15 and leave the training center and head over to we'll be breaking in with all of this news over the next hour and then at the top of the hour at 9:00 bill hemmer will take over and we'll watch the launch. steve: that's right and as you can see up in your corner we're t minus 58 minutes and 18 seconds right now. you know, richard branson was able to beat him into space, but there's a reason jeff bezos wanted to take off today, and it's historic it was 52 years ago today, that apollo 11 landed on the moon, people walked on the moon, and so it's a symbolic day, and that's why he is taking up his brother, and the youngest passenger, and the oldest passenger, more history today. brian: he's got another ship ready to go it's called the new glenn that's going to go to the moon and he hopes to land and they want to stay and elon musk is in this race with spacex and he wants to go to mars and he would like to stay. he thinks we're going to break this planet and he's convinced we need another planet. i would choose neptune but i

just don't have the rocket right now or the money. ainsley: you used to say plato. brian: right i want to get a little closer. it's cold, pluto. ainsley: we will continue to break in with any information we have with that, we're excited about it. steve: right and we're going to have a simpled a great space panel to discuss what happens -- brian: on earth. steve: about 10 minutes before they take off. we will do that. in the meantime let's blast off to tampa, where they've been having the student action summit , the s. a.s. with turningpoint usa and our buddy pete hegseth from the weekend show is down there right now, and you've had a full plate of activities so far. pete: that right. good morning, i have a plan guys i think we should pool our money , you guys have a lot more than me have we'll put it all in a pot. steve: not really. pete: if this flight goes well we'll get one seat and draw straws and one of us from fox & friends will get on one of these future flights after pooling our money. brian: you know what's going to happen though? steve: it's about $50 million, it's a big pool. brian: just knowing pete it's

enterprise reporter lawrence jones will end up reporting on his flight, and that's going to be the problem. ainsley: he said he couldn't fit in a rocket. pete: he's a big dude. ainsley: how about the guys that paid 28 million and decided he's not going to go. he has some sort of a conflict. pete: it was a dental appointment that was difficult to reschedule. brian: [laughter] you were right. pete: it's terrible. it's like three months later you've got to do it. brian: i do need a second source that was just a hunch it is anonymous it's an 11 minute flight, three minutes of weight lessness and the biggest windows they land back to earth and the good news is even though the billionaire can afford another rocket this is reuseable and go up there again. pete: it's pretty cool and this is ultimately it's a miracle of capitalism. it's a reflection of our entrepreneurial system, that we seem to want to reject today. that we seem to want to think was something we can take for granted and then that's part of the theme here at turning point, the doors just

opened how cool is it to see young high schoolers and young college students get up early in the morning put on nice clothes, wait in line to hear political speeches to reinforce the values that have made our country great, to include capitalism, i had a chance to speak yesterday it's on fox nation, at 9:30, and while you're watching the space flight check out all access live on fox nation, kayleigh mcenany and myself will be recapping all of the big events and stuff you should be checking out on fox nation, and again, a free month if you use the code s. a.s. for anybody who wants to check this out. brian: pete one thing that's clear you go big. you demanded a big stage. you demanded your name and big lights. ainsley: fireworks. brian: and you wanted fireworks if you can meet those demands you could have pete at your event. if you do those three things. pete: too easy that's it. steve: just like that. ainsley: i know they loved you. you're fox nation t-shirt. your tattoos showing. brian: yeah or abs.

good abs and tattoos usually do it. pete: you guys, i can't. i can't. ainsley: and good hair. brian: very good hair. brian: expensive gel. you should get a gel sponsor. pete: i should actually. steve: look at this , this just goes to show the breaking news nature of this hour because it's you and blue origin right there. pete: oh, wow. that is the most unlikely combination to ever exist at all steve: because we're t-minus 54 minutes away and jeff bezos is in the cap you'll. ainsley: we're having a debate. how do you say bezos? brian: i think it's bezos. ainsley: you say bezos and i say bezos. pete: either way he's got more money than us. ainsley: that's right. steve: in the meantime we move on. ainsley: okay this morning, top coronavirus advisors are set to testify on capitol hill. steve: it comes as dr. fauci is defending a new push to have kids as young as three years old

mask up this coming school year. brian: his head shots from 198t different now, griff jenkins is live in washington as the dow plunges amid delta variant concerns and more perhaps lock down. griff? griff: that's exactly right, brian, ainsley, steve, good morning. wall street may want to buckle up when it opens in about 54 minutes because did you see what it did yesterday? stocks tanked. the dow down 725 points, rally ing back from being down more than 900 at one point, it was the worst close since october, and overnight, already, we're seeing markets in asia all down and it's all driven by ris ing covid fears. this as dr. fauci and cdc director will face questions over whether the cdc ended the mask mandate for vaccinated americans too soon. what you're seeing here now is nationwide, 48.6 million americans are fully vaccinated, 56% have gotten at least one shot, but cases are up due to that delta darien.

107% nationwide in last two weeks and some areas like la county have reinstated mask mandates while others in the san francisco bay area and southern nevada are pushing for msciing up again and meanwhile, the american academy of pediatrics wants everyone, older than two years old, vaccinated or not, to mask up. and fauci backs that guidance. >> when you have a degree of viral dynamics in the community, and you have a substantial proportion of the population that is unvaccinated, then you really want to go the extra step , the extra mile to think that's a reasonable thing to do. griff: earlier this morning on fox & friends first, fox news medical contributor dr. marty makary had this to say. >> there's been absolutely no data on masks in kids who are vaccinated and many of us think that that vaccinated protection is pretty good to reduce transmission significantly. plus a lot of kids struggle with

masks. griff: something else that may come up today at the senate hear ing with dr. fauci, he already said this morning he would "not be surprised if schools began requiring vaccinations for kids to go bac" we'll see where that goes, brian , ainsley, steve. steve: griff we thank you very much, griff mentioned at the beginning did you see what happened on wall street yesterday. wall street sold off more than 2 %, there's some worry that the coronavirus is going to slow down the recovery, thank you very much, griff, or there could be some more lockdowns and the wall street journal says essentially, look, covid is going to be here for the rest of our lives. we've got to figure out how to manage our lives within covid without a lockdown because we can do life normally, we just can't lock it down again. that was a big mistake. ainsley: hard to leave if this was created in a lab, killed millions of people around the world, more than 600 here in the u.s. , and it's just

beginning and there could be more and more variants of this and we could be masked up what for the rest of our lives now? brian: forget that. and lockdowns and wall street journal i thought put it great today. they said we'll always have this with us and here is just an excerpt from it. let's hope the political class has learned lessons from the last 18 months, namely that covid will always be with us and that we have to live with it without shutting down the economy. continuing quarantine mandates on non-symptomatic vaccinated people will prevent a return to normalcy so will reimposing mask mandates as los angeles county did this weekend. let's hope people understand it is counter productive to do it. especially when you start up businesses again and then you go to start with the mask mandates and next thing, let's separate the tables and then we have to lay you off and we'll never get these workers back especially if you tell us that the vaccines are that effective, then what are we hiding from? ainsley: some of the governors are saying absolutely not, we're

not mandating masks in our state , florida is one, south carolina, washington state said they're not ready for that yet and the other one was texas. steve: also yesterday up in provincetown, massachusetts they said given there's been such an outbreak after a lot of 4th of july parties up in cape cod, they are having a mask advisory. they advice people to wear masks indoors. ultimately, the way i feel, is that if the price of not locking down, if the price of not closing schools if the price of having kids in school is to have a mask, if that's what the scientists say right now, have a mask until we figure it out. dr. marc siegel was on a little while ago and has this observing about what is going on with the science. >> first of all again sending the message. you got the vaccine, is it working because it is working and why would you then need a mask mandate? secondly, what about natural

immunity? kids that have gotten over covid are not spreading it. thirdly, this less than a 1% chance of a child spreading covid. the idea is that kids are not super spreaders. i recommend masks for kids but there's a big downside to the masks in terms of socialization, learning, learning to read, you've got to make a public health assessment that takes all of that into the case, and mandates are not the way to go here. brian: they're not and kids if you look at the numbers, it is 0 % chance that kids are going to get it, there are less people, more people that die of a cold than die of the covid-19 virus. you should not be wearing a mask in school up until 17. teachers have been vaccinated, kids have an option i guess 12- 17, you go do it and if you get it, and are vaccinated, the symptoms aren't going to be strong and even if it's more spreadable they say this variant is not more lethal so that's important. the emotional damage that is to kids especially preschoolers and grammar school res, because they can't smile.

they have no idea about any emotions. these are the things you don't think about but you should know about because you have a six- year-old. if a kid can't see , show fear, or see fear, understand laughter, understand happiness, or indecision, they haven't seen that in 18 months, and then you'll tell a kid with a 0% chance of getting it, spreading it and suffering from it, that they should wear a mask all day when it's most likely going to be dirty, wear it over their eyes or down on their chin? forget it. you should be able to go to school and learn. its been 18 months. ainsley: i understand if you have an elderly parent at home or grandparent at home and you don't want the child to get the delta variant, bring it home and it infects that person maybe that person isn't able to get vaccinated and that is the worry. brian: that's rare. ainsley: but to your point, i do have friends that have children, even smaller than my daughter, they are young, learning their language skills, and they can't see the teacher's mouth, they can't, the teacher can't see their mouth, there are delay s, we've been on the road so many times interviewing

parents. brian: it tells the kid when they are wearing a mask, don't talk, shut up and it's very unhealthy. steve: but if the choice is if you want the kid -- brian: but whose making that choice, steve? steve: brian, it all goes to -- ainsley: i know what you're saying i'd much rather my daughter be in school with a mask than be at home. brian: but that is a choice by people who have been infected by teacher's unions. we've seen the cut and paste from the cdc, from the teacher's unions into their doctrine so that is not the choice. we should be going through. ainsley: listen we're going to do what they tell us to do and we're going to follow the rules it's frustrating because we don't want to go back to the mask but if we have to we will we don't have a choice. let's move on. brian: whose telling us? they keep contradicting each other. steve: all right let's talk about something else, impacting everybody in the use of america, it seems and that is the rise in crime. leo terrell, fox news contributor and civil rights attorney, joins us right now live as we look at master

control for blue origin. good morning to you, leo. ainsley: hi, leo. >> good morning, everyone. how are you? steve: we're doing okay, and in about 40 minutes we're going to see jeff bezos blast off, but nonetheless, there's been such a rise in crime in the last week or so. we saw the nats game saturday night where people were running for their lives because these brazen people started shooting out of the side of a grey toyota which they did recover today and then the six-year-old shot down on the streets of washington d.c. you see the marine getting shot here in times square, and the family coming out of a toy store, leo, its gotten to the point where here in new york city, one of the presumed winner s, eric adams for mayor, is now finally saying you know what? i think maybe we need to revamp bail reform, because too many people don't know that there are no consequences. they can get arrested but they are immediately going to be

released. >> you know what, steve? i have a problem with any of these democratic mayors or democratic mayoral candidates like eric adams. you just cannot leave what comes out of their mouth. i don't trust him. i believe the police union, and let me tell you right now. until eric adams openly criticized the progressive left, openly can't leave him. i can't trust him. he has to throw those individuals under the bus for him to have any credibility on the issue of really supporting law enforcement reducing crime. brian: my hope is his track record does improve, what kind of mayor he'll be because he's been very critical of police and law enforcement. these police chiefs and cops on the streets aren't convinced he's the guy he's portraying himself. my hope is he looked at the reality and he knows he can't have those beliefs and run a city. >> well and see that's the thing about it, brian. he's playing both sides. he went to the white house last week and kissed a ring of president biden talking about

gun control. i'm telling you, they don't, democratic mayors have no credibility. they have t openly criticize the progressive left. they have to openly criticize the squad and say i don't agree with them. i believe in supporting the police until you hear that don't believe them. ainsley: leo, the astronauts are walking out and this is the training facility, they are getting in the car right now, this suv, and they will head over to the rocket. brian: i believe that's not a rental. i think he bought that right out steve: they are only using it one day, it could be a rental so the people strapped into the capsule very shortly, jeff bezos and his brother mark, female aviation trailblazerser 82-year-old and she's from texas wally funk, and these images are from texas as we scan over and look at that generator. ainsley: you have to wonder how they are feeling right now. steve: you got to figure they are excited but at the same time terrified and 18-year-old oliver damon, a touch teenager

whose dad is the ceo of a private equity firm. they are going to drive them over to the launch pad where they just brought the rocket out ainsley: good news is they have launched it 15 times without anyone on board and the capsule landed safely every single time. brian: the thing that's going to be different is they are going to go 62 miles above the earth. branson went 53 miles above the earth. they are going to be weightless for about three minutes, and as ainsley mentioned, they tested this 15 times and in case something does go wrong even though there's no pilot on board they say they " have a great escape system" so i assume they've been through that before. ainsley: they were practicing it yesterday. brian: i just don't think they need somebody on board, even with any experience it seems, it looks as though they are going to go up and come down and then it's going to be private industry might indeed be taking over. think about the engineers that got their jobs, think about the hirings that have taken place, the salaries that are there, and think about the 12-

13-year-olds or 9-year-olds watching saying i want to be part of that program, like they did in the 60s when they watched jfk layout the gauntlet and being pulled off by richard nixon. steve: you know, i'm kind of surprised they are in that particular suv driving over. you almost would think they be in an amazon truck. i mean, that be -- ainsley: right wouldn't that be great? steve: thank you, thank you, i'll be here all week. that is something like richard branson whose a real promoter would have probably had done, but you know when they talk about the , in case god forbid anything were to go wrong and there you can see some of the people who worked on the crew, because spectators are not being allowed near the site there at van horn in texas, way out in the desert is that once it goes up the rocket is going to go ahead and release the capsule and then the rocket will land just like we have seen spacex's rocket land. let me just finish on the

capsule and then what happens is the capsule has parachutes and it goes ahead and plummets to the earth but then it floats down, and when it hits the texas dirt, it should be going one mile an hour. brian: he grew up reading science fiction, watching space launches with his grandfather, this is jeff, who worked at the atomic energy commission, in high school and his valedictorian speech said the future billionaire outlined his vision, space, the final front ear, meet me there was his quote. little did he know he would go to wall street, become an instant success by 25, leave it all, borrow money by his parents, start amazon and put together arguably the most successful company in the world and he's not close to done yet. ainsley: to everyone on board, you have jeff and his brother and the two other astronauts they were not supposed to be paying customers one man did put in a bid for $28 million. steve: for charity. ainsley: all the money goes to charity for this flight and he said he had a scheduling conflict so he pulled out and

that's how this 18-year-old oliver damon was able to get on board so now they are taking the youngest and oldest person ever to go into space. his father, did his father have to pay, i know he's a paying customer but it didn't say in all of my research how much his dad, because his dad is a hedge fund manager. brian: must be a very profitable paper route if he paid for it himself. ainsley: isn't that amazing an 18-year-old going into space. brian: the only one i know, bezos said he had the conviction to do big things back in 2000 when he started this blue origin that was the first one, he believes this is a form of philanthropy according to his biog grapher that by building this company and helping to usher it in a new space age he will be helping humanity generations from now and i can't argue with that sentiment. ainsley: and the 82-year-old, the oldest person going into space, she went through all these test back in the 1960s with 12 other women for nasa's mercury 7 but she never made it to space because they only let

men into space at the time. steve: and you know, as you look at these images and keep in mind , this is a launch pad that was built just for the amazon project, for blue origin, and it all started with a dream as all of these things ultimately do. richard branson, we've had him on this program after he's gone up in hot air balloons and he's always been an adventurer, always chased the dream, and you know what? apparently, jeff bezos had the dream as well. forget about the fact that he had a dream to start a book selling company and sell stuff online, as you watch their suv approach the launch pad. you got to figure that he is so excited, because, you know, he's got all of the money in the world. he doesn't worry about a lot of stuff that we do but this is something you just don't get to do unless -- ainsley: you have that kind of money. exactly he's the second person to fly his own rocket into space a week ago sir branson did. steve: that was a space plane which was really cool.

ainsley: he's also a billionaire and successfully reached the edge of space. brian said he went 53 miles up and jeff bezos is going 62 you said? brian: yup, yeah, and this is going to be a more traditional rocket launch as you could tell. he told neil yesterday that he is anxious but he's not nervous. he says i feel when i'm strapped to my seat i'll be excited. he says i'm ready and the team is amazing and i feel very good about it. it's true. every step of the way he's been there for the last 21 years, he has his goal, he saw what happened last week. he and branson went back and fourth wishing each other luck. i think they are pushing each other to be better like moscow pushed washington d.c. and i think it's great. he wants to be into space tourism. branson wants space tourism. elon musk doesn't. he wants moon, mars. that's why spacex is dropping people at the space station. he wants to build billionaires into space and then mill on millionaires and every day people for three minutes of weightlessness. ainsley: neil asked him about

the competition is there competition between you and sir rich and branson and he said this is not about competition but about building a road for future generations. steve: right they say about this amazon project, their aim is to make access to space cheaper, and more reliable through reuseable launch vehicles, and that 60-foot rocket that you can see right there, is reuseable. its been used 15 times, there you can see they are posing for a picture, i think it looks like they are waving to us, hello, everybody, we should point out that this company also is headquartered in kent, washington, just as much of amazon -- ainsley: blue origin is? steve: yeah, the company's name blue origin refers to the blue planet earth as the point of origin. brian: still my favorite planet ainsley: [laughter] steve: and you're very shortly, the richest man in the world is going to leave the planet. brian: last night he had chicken thighs, mac and cheese and black eyed peas. i'd choose none of them for my

last meal. thighs? who gets thighs? steve: oh, no, no, brian all of the good flavor is in the thigh. brian: really? steve: that's what the french cook. brian: does kraft make its mac and choice? ainsley: it might have been his mom's recipe. he and his brother? brian: powdered cheese and milk that's the way i did it. steve: in 2019, mr. bezos unveiled blue origin's vision for space and also plans for the moon lander, eventually in 2024, the moon lander will be known as blue moon, and -- ainsley: as in the beer? steve: no. ainsley: i know, i'm kidding. steve: you know what that's not fair. if they pull out that's exactly. ainsley: so he's only going to be in space for 13 minutes? steve: yeah it's really fast. ainsley: and then they come right back? brian: 11 minute flight, three minutes of weightlessness, and they come back down with a

parachute and right away they queue up to get ready with this new glenn space ship. steve: yeah, 11 minutes in all, ascending to that 62-mile height and release the capsule into space and then the capsule plummets to earth, like the falcon 9 and that rocket that they are ascending right there uses fins and something called aerobrakes to slow and control the descent and that's what's unique about this particular, this generation of rockets. remember, the nasa, the great big saturn 5 rockets that were many stories tall, they would just launch the spacecraft into space, and then they would plummet into the atlantic ocean when they are launched off of the space coast to florida and that was it. they would eventually go get them but they were not recyclable to this level. ainsley: and jeff has become so successful. jeff bezos, 57 years old, and he generously is offering one of these seats to his brother, mark

bezos whose a firefighter. he also runs a charity. he's the charity executive i assume for his brother's charity , but i thought that was great. he's a firefighter. brian: and they are best friends and it was interesting i had a hard time living up to my older brother because he was a better athlete. can you imagine if my older brother created amazon, mom just make him your favorite and get this over with. fantastic. ainsley: i'm sure he shares the wealth. brian: absolutely because he's got so much of it, i don't know how he keeps track but we need people like this but i think this is the type of entrepreneurial effort that flies in the face of everything else going on in this country, many respects i'm not saying jeff bezos is the ultimate conservative but i would say he's the ultimate capitalist took great risk. ainsley: what would he have done during covid. everyone was so dependent on amazon. brian: it got bigger because it served better that is not the problem. that is called the answer. then you just think back to aoc and the contingent that what did whatever they could to make sure there was no long

island city hub for amazon, which seems folly, and also flows me away they had to walk these steps if you can afford a rocket to space, can you get an escalator? donald trump would have lent you one. steve: well and there you can see at that top of that flights of stairs, that is the ready room, they've obviously got their space suits that they are not going to wear. brian: they all choose unitards why is that? steve: because they did it on star trek i think. you never know. brian: it's one outfit. steve: somebody will have to take off their cowboy hat, obviously, i think that is mr. bezos in the cowboy hat, i believe and then you've got wally that is the woman whose to the second to the left, and then you've got brother mark and then you've got the 18-year-old dutch teenager whose ceo father got him the free ride on this rocket.

brian: they look like they are a little ahead of schedule. it says they were going to a send the tower at around 8:30 but they are a little bit ahead of schedule. the hatch is closed at 8:36 i'm thinking it might be closed already, at 9:00, the new shepherd will launch, pushed upwards by a powerful 60- foot tall booster rocket, and it'll move really quick, we'll watch it live, and i believe if everything goes well they will kick us off the air and turn it over to bill hemmer and sandra smith taking over at the top of the hour. steve: we're actually going to give it to them one minute before they take off. brian: i guess if everything goes well we'll see if they are willing to receive it. it still ultimately is their decision. ainsley: so blue origin launch ing the rocket which is the new shepherd rocket, launch ing into space at 9:00 a.m., they are in west texas, this desert area near the town of van horn, texas. steve: that's right if you're just joining us it's 8:30 in the east it's 7:30 out in van horn, texas, which is about as far out as you could see jeff

bezos getting his space suit on, is as far out in west texas in the desert as you can get , and it looks like a perfect day launch-wise, weather-wise, and you know, you've got to figure that this is the first manned space flight for this particular company, but because that rocket is so automated, its gone up and down, up and down, up and down, 15 times no problems. that is why they are confident that they can put the richest man on earth in the top of it, blast them off, send him up 62 miles, and then bring him slightly higher into orbit and he will plummet to earth along with the other three in the capsule as you see members of the ready crew, it looks like they are going inside to get them ready and then they are going to take about the 20-foot walk across that gang plank, get into the capsule, and they

will lock them in. bellicose this is a three-horse race, we saw richard branson last week and jeff bezos this week but we've seen spacex really since 2002 team up with nasa and do some incredible work that company alone from elon musk is worth $180 million, here is the quote. he is not into space travel. musk feels like the human species could be wiped out and we need a backup plan on mars or somewhere else. jeff bezos has an earth plan, and it is to get people off earth briefly for a lot of money and back down, and to gradually turn a profit. if amazon teaches us anything, he is not worried about a profit initially. he believes that comes down the line, and it certainly did after stops and starts and you got to feel confident jeff bezos that this is going to work out for you, turning a profit eventually. ainsley: as we've been saying it did launch 15 times without anyone on board and it did land safely every single time but the capsule was first tested in october of 2012 and then three years later, tested the rocket

booster and in april of 2015 when that booster was tested it's the only time that booster did not land successfully after a test flight , but here we are, what, six years later, and hopefully, everything will go smoothly today. brian: right i tell you, very interesting because i know elon musk quickly tweeted for support to richard branson, i'm very curious to see if the billionaires are tweeting each other now with tweaks. ainsley: they can learn from each other. brian: or with support. ainsley: no, support, support. you don't want anything to go wrong. brian: it's not me. steve: i think that i saw that elon musk showed up and richard branson's house at 3:00 in the morning before he took off and there's the gang plank they are going to walk across very shortly. speaking of the billionaires, you know, so richard branson beat him to space because jeff bezos had set today as the take off day it was 52 years ago that a pal lower class 11 landed on the moon and there you can see they are leaving the ready

room and they are going to go across that gang plank and then get strapped into the crew capsule indeed. as i said a moment ago, the capsule, once it reaches its zenith, falls to earth it's slowed by a parachute and it aims to land on the texas desert , there it goes, mr. bezos , and there's wally right there, oldest person ever to go into space, it should land at one mile an hour. ainsley: they are ringing the bell. steve: that's what they do you got to ring the bell and if it lands faster than one mile an hour, the seats inside the capsule are designed to absorb the impact if it hits too hard. ainsley: let's bring in retired eileen collins nasa astronaut and first female commander of a space shuttle good morning to you. >> good morning. ainsley: you're watching these images with us. what's going through your mind? >> well first of all, i'm a friend of wally's and i'm extremely happy for her.

this is something she has waited literally decades for , back when she was 2 years old she wanted to fly into space. steve: tell us a little more about her. i know she's from texas. >> yeah, so wally was one of what we now call the mercury 13 women. they tested back in 1961 the exact same testing that the men went through for the mercury program that was very stringent medical testing, mental testing, well the 13 women that were brought in, that did very well in the testing, were actually not chosen is nasa astronauts, because they were test pilots. there were no women test pilots back in those days so wally and the other women didn't have the chance to fly. she was 22 back then, and that was 60 years ago now, and think about it. she's waited six decades for her dream to come true so i'm very happy for her. ainsley: that shows you how far we've come from women's rights too doesn't it? >> yeah, well this is true and as you know, sally ride is the first american woman in 1983 thn

shortly after 1961, but they have flown, i think, maybe only four women in space total and the united states has flown dozens of women on the space station and space shuttle, so the opportunities are out there for young women, actually, young boys watching today also, this is something that you can do. you can be a professional astronaut or fly in space and i think it's very motivating and i'm just thrilled to see that wally has the opportunity. brian: i just think it's great for the space program because every politician wants to cut the space program because there's such a battle to fund every single program. now it's getting harder and harder because this support for things like this , because of things like this. can you tell us technologically what's going to be taking place here, because you guys at nasa were doing similar things to this in the 1970s, correct? >> yeah, so you know, there's a lot we can talk about here. i'd say technically, yes, what jeff bezos is doing today has

been done before, as a sub- orbital flight, they go up and come down, sub-orbital means they aren't going around the earth. to go around the earth you need a heat shield on your spacecraft , but that's his next step. he's planning on a new glenn rocket later which will actually go to orbit, and after that he's planning on a rocket called the new armstrong which will eventually go to the moon, but i also see this as national security issue. you can look at the flight today as , you know, maybe you've got some rich people and you've got the oldest person and youngest person you can look at it as , you know, maybe a stunt but i don't think that's what it is. i think that this is the more we fly, the safer it'll get , the more we're going to earn had , the more data we collect, the more information, this is something that the united states will be using to help us learn more and to go farther and to do exploration better. it's a baby step but it's an important step. brian: and the difference between this and richard branson >> well, richard branson, i mean, he had a winged vehicle and they had many differences.

he also had pilots that were flying and richard branson's flight that took place, you know , a little over a week ago, they were flying a winged vehicle as opposed today to, which the flight today is a capsule, but what they have in common is they are both sub- orbital flights. again both of those flights did not go around the earth. they went up, they came down, the flight maybe less than an hour, and they may have maybe three to four minutes of micro- gravity where they can get out of their seats and float around and see the curvature of the earth, what we call see the stars at noon, and come back and say i've been over 50 miles, that qualifies me as an astronaut. steve: that's exactly right. if anybody is joining us we're speaking to eileen collins a friend of wally funk, on board the first female commander of a space shuttle. eileen, you know, you addressed the risk there certainly is always risk with space travel,

even if it's limited like this , but you've got to take your hat off to the fact that this is being funded, you know, there is some nasa influence here, but this is being funded by private companies, and you look at the difference between the way elon musk and his spacex gets into space versus richard branson. different people have different ideas on how to do it these days >> yeah, and i think the other thing that's important, we have to have, i want to say the creativity of different companies trying it different ways, you use the creativity and it's important to have private companies doing this and yes they might get a little bit of money from the u.s. government, but the united states government is very limited in the amount of money they have. i was an astronaut at nasa and we flew the space shuttle for 30 years. we wanted to go i want to say farther, faster and higher. we want to go back to the moon but nasa didn't have the funding

from the federal government to do as much as we wanted to do. now, you bring in private companies, you've got this money that's out there and i want to say vastly more money than nasa has and that needs to be directed, i believe, towards space exploration, and i love what's happening right now. i think there's going to be an explosion of space travel and you're going to see more people that want to fly and you'll see the success of what happened last week and will happened to. more people are going to want to do this , whether it's private investors or thrill seekers or , you know, the united states government wanting to be involved also. ainsley: and jeff bezos even said it's going to get obviously a lot cheaper just like we've seen in commercial airlines, just flying across the country is a lot cheaper than it used to be so hopefully we'll see the price come down so more people have the opportunity. eileen thank you so much for joining us and thanks for everything you've done. we're going to keep her, sorry we're bringing in someone else this is terry vert, retired

nauseates and international international space commander. terry i know a lot of parents are grabbing their kids putting them in front of the tv, it is summer kids are probably not in school. i remember doing that's a child with my family. for the kids that are watching what are we seeing right now? >> well this is the first human flight of a space ship which is pretty cool its only happened a few times in history so it's really exciting and my former space shuttle crew mate, nick patrick is helping run this mission so i'm excited for him down here in the great state of texas. brian: terry you know what's interesting is they keep on talking ability the size of the windows and your perspective changes when you blast off into space, so few can actually say that and understand it. i'm not one of them. can you tell me what's going to change and what they will see? >> well nick patrick gave me a tour a few years ago. i actually got to go into one of niece capsules and the windows are really impressive, the view is going to be spectacular and i actually got to install this thing called a coupula on the international space station, which is a window module and

when you put your head in there, it feels like you're out in space, because you can just be surrounded by space. the emotional impact is incredible. i remember the first time i looked out, i had spent my whole life with pictures of space on my walls and reading books and seeing movies but when you see it for yourself that emotional impact is incredible. brian: what do you think of that control room, what the are we seeing, what are they looking at? >> i actually can't see the view that you guys are seeing right now, but they are going to be monitoring all of the data and pressures and temperatures and rockets and fuel tanks and the cabin. there's a lot of telemetry going into mission control for blue origin. steve: terry you were a space shuttle pilot, and the space shuttle as eileen was talking about, you know, that was design ed in the 60's and 70's and by the tomb it got up there the technology was almost obsolete because they moved past it. what we're looking at now, i

mean, they were flying it as 50- year-old technology when they retired it. now you're looking at something that is truly state-of-the-art. i mean, the smartest minds in the world have put the coolest things in the world in that machine. >> well it's a pretty amazing rocket. you know the blue origin rocket was actually the first-ever to land, so not just the capsule but the rocket itself came back and landed in the texas desert and now of course spacex does that on a routine basis but that was a big advance in technology no one has ever done before and the thought is you'll build this super expensive engine to get the rocket off of earth so why throw it away. it be like throwing a boeing 737 away every time you take it flying. steve: terry, did nasa ever consider that or was it back in the days when we've got unlimited taxpayer money, we can just go ahead and throw it away and build a new one? >> well actually the space shuttle was the first reuseable overall rocket, but the solid

rocket boosters, parachuted back into the ocean and the shuttle itself, the orbiter was re useable but we used to joke that it only costs a little bit extra money to reuse the solid than it did to just buy a new one, because they parachuted in the ocean so imagine if you took your ford explorer and parachut ed that in the ocean. you could clean it up and use it again but it would probably be cheaper -- steve: if it's in the ocean. they are closing the hatch. ainsley: you mentioned going into space the first time and how emotional that was. describe that. what does it look like? what does it feel like? >> i thought i was ready for it i had been spending my whole life getting ready to fly in space and i talked to folks like eileen in the astronaut office with me, what's it like and then i remember the first time, i saw the east coast at night, which was incredible and i looked out and i grew up there, there's i- 95 but going into that first sunrise was spectacular and it was this blue line and i'll never forget seeing sunrise

, the blue atmosphere and i remember thinking i've never seen that shade of blue before. it was like the color was so spectacular. and then the ice from the engine s was floating it was like a cloud of a million fire flies flying around the capsule, we were at night flying into sunlight but it was pretty amazing. brian: congressman dan crenshaw joins us now from a place he's very familiar with he's gop congressman. congressman, more actions happening in texas. what are your thoughts now? >> look, i just think it's great for americans to be inspired by something incredible like going to space. its honestly been too long since we were able to see these journeys, and i think it's really great that we've all been able to come together and do that again. from a policy perspective, i think it's really cool to see the public-private partnerships that have occurred over the last few years, and our major companies and it's really an amazing thing in america, only in america, where companies

that start off so small, nobody would believe in them, becomes the largest in the world and then could potentially taking us to mars one day, and to see these rockets that take off and then land perfectly, i mean, it seems to defy the laws of physics but they do it so elegantly and i'm excited for texas, i'm excited to see how this echosystem starts to build and what we start to see in texas, as far as some kind of structure that houses all of these government entities and private entities that are getting us to space. steve: sure, if people are looking closely at their tv screens, the big picture window on the left side, you can see somebody inside and that is 18-year-old oliver damon, he's a teenager whose dad is the ceo of a private equity firm and he's strapped into his seat and the other three are behind him, although we have seen mr. bezos on the other side giving us a thumbs up. let me ask you, eileen, you were

the first female commander of a space shuttle. you've been on top of a rocket preparing to launch into space. after years of training, how do you feel when you're sitting on top of that? i know this one is much smaller in comparison, it's only 60 feet tall, but still, the anxiety has got to be different than when you were training. >> well, i will say that if the shuttle commander and space shuttle pilot we were pretty busy running checklists, throwing switches, we were talking on the radio, we were focused, and that helps a little bit to stay focused but regardless, you're getting ready to go on what we call a controlled explosion, so there is a little bit of an increased heart rate, but i do remember my last launch right after we lifted off, the thought went through my mind, we're actually launching. this is not a simulate or , and you get right back to work. but we were pretty busy.

ainsley: eileen what was it like when you went to space the first time? we've heard from others and how spectacular it is. how about for you? >> well again, i was busy running checklists, shutting down the apu's and perging the main propulsion system, et cetera. my crew member behind me said eileen, look out the window this is your first sunrise from space and i looked out the window and i thought the earth is round. [laughter] that was the first thought that went to my mind of course it is round but i've never seen the curvature of the earth and that was probably the most spectacular thing about my first moments in space. brian: it's amazing blue origin has their own twitter feed and they just said three minutes ago , hatch is closed, final checks are underway. congressman, i know this is a great day for america, certainly for amazon, and jeff bezos, but is this also a great day for texas? another major moment in your state? >> yeah, absolutely. like i said i'm excited to see what kind of echosystem starts to thrive because of that

you know, we had the texas medical center for instance where all of the best innovators , all of the best interests and hospitals come together in one place. it be nice to see something similar start to materialize with the space industry alongside nasa. brian: you've got elon musk. >> exactly. you've got all of them coming to texas, and i think it portends a very interesting future for us and i think that kind of collaboration is how one day, we might get to mars. steve: and i think one thing about this particular mission is we're going to be able to see it from start-to-finish because they've got super cameras and lenses we're going to see it the whole way up. terry berts, you were international space station commander and space shuttle pilot as well. as we approach launch, and what is it we're t-minus 15 minutes away from it right now, and you can see some of the images, some of the people at amazon headquarters, they are up and they are early.

ainsley: they are all young. steve: do you blame them, very excited about being there. brian: all getting more per hour now. ainsley: that's right. steve: indeed. so, terry, for this particular team to be there, you know, they're in that capsule. they just essentially met, because they've been, they aren't going to be actually driving anything. they are just going up. it's really the people in this control room that have all of the investment in this particular project. >> yeah, that's right. the capsule that they are flying is completely automated the only thing they need to do is get out of their seat belts once they are in space and a few minutes later they need to get back in their seats and put the seat belts on again. everything else is done by the ground. my old crew mate nick patrick is running the mission and a good friend of eileen and mine, jeff ashby is one of the senior managers so this is really an automated system very different than the shuttle. eileen was talking about the ap u's and main propulsion system and she was a commander and i was like the co-pilot but

we had a lot of switches to flip in the space shuttle and it's very different in this capsule. brian: let's bring in bill nelson, nasa administrator, experienced astronaut maybe the most famous in the country now. bill, welcome. you've been through things that are more difficult than this , when actually you had to fly things and there was much more at stake. what are your thoughts now? what should people at home understand about this mission? >> any time you defy gravity, the way these folks are, there is danger. i think it's great that these billionaires are spending their money to develop all of these new technologies. they are opening up to ordinary folks that wouldn't have the training that astronaut terry berts has and by the way he's a pilot f-16 pilot extraordinaire, and so but it's

opening up so that people can get a glimpse of this extraordinary planet, albeit only for a couple of minutes before they start coming back down. i think what's happening is great, and look at the accomplishments already. look what elon musk, the billionaire has already accomplished going into orbit and delivering crew to the international space station and jeff bezos now is developing a rocket that will go into orbit and will go further exploration, so i think we're seeing dawn of a new space age. brian: i love it, and bill, there's a lot of people you just touched on it, who are saying wow we have so many problems here, so many people need money here, why in the billionaires putting money into space. what do you tell people and how do you get them to see the big picture? >> well first of all i tell

them that i understand, and want to do the things that you want to do on earth to rehabilitate the inequities that we find here , but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't constantly explore a new frontier. remember, this country developed westwood with a new frontier and now it's upward, and we never want to give up that discovery, that exploration, of the american spirit. ainsley: congressman crenshaw, when we were talking to nasa administrators and all of these astronauts, when you were growing up your dream was to be a navy seal and you accomplished that with strength and grit, but there's so many of us that, i never even thought about going into space, because that was just not my goal. i was always fascinated with it and looked up to people like eileen and to bill and terry who are involved in nasa, and have done this , but for you, like are you starting to think maybe

i could do this now? it's something that most americans watching are thinking when the price goes down maybe this is something we could all do. >> yeah, i think that is one of the cooler things about what we're seeing lately, with these launches is that it's pretty obvious now that its becoming accessible to more and more people. look the first television was beyond anybody's reach, but that first wealthy person who bought that television is the reason that they were able to move prices down and continue production. i think you can see something like that happening with space. now, do i think about it? oh, i can't see very well, i think it's very dangerous for me to go up in space but if i'm going as a passenger, well, now it is open to me because there are quite a few navy seals that have gone the astronaut route to be honest but they all have perfect vision so i don't think i'm in that category but this appears to open it up now to just any of us. steve: and congressman, you work in washington d.c., sometimes that's like another planet, but that conversation is for another

day. eileen, you were the first female commander of a space shuttle. you know what's going to be different about this particular mission is the rockets going to blast off and take about 60 miles and then the cap capsule is going to disengage from the rocket and the rocket will land vertically but the capsule is going to do something we've never seen a man ned space flight in the united states do and that is it's going to land not in the water, like mercury and apollo, it's going to land out there on the hard earth of west texas, presumably, at one mile per hour. that's really going to be the challenge, making sure they land at one mile an hour, right? >> yeah, well okay, so that is going to be a little bit of a jolt. we may land, so it's something you want to be watching for , i think when you see it hit the ground, and again, it will hit softly, in aerodynamic terms and you'll see the dust come out they do have parachutes and i

know they've tested this capsule over and over again with parachutes even with a failed parachute, so they are pretty confident and they have a lot of time on it but i will say that the russians vehicle comes back from the space station and the lands in a similar way. they are coming back from orbit, so they have a much when you come back as many american astronauts have done and you have a much steeper descent with a higher g-load, but again, they are going to come back from 200 miles and today, blue origin will be coming back from about 60 miles or so but that'll be an important part of the mission to watch. brian: terry i'm wondering, is there anything that they can do in the capsule, should they need to do, are they trained to take over this capsule, should automation go south? do you know? >> well, i'll defer to blue origin for the specifics but when my crew mate nick patrick gave me the tour there wasn't a lot to do. mostly just enjoy the view

outside. brian: my type of ride. >> yeah exactly and there's a lot of cameras taking pictures. i have a book out and i actually wrote a chapter about what to do if you're a space tourist and my advice was to take the time to get the view sink into your brain but let me say something real quick about the inequity and i know there's a lot of bad press going around for billionaires. when we got into space on my first space shuttle flight, that when we opened up the bay doors we didn't just launch billion dollar bills out into space, that money was all spent down on earth and i know the people that work at blue origin and spacex are very happy to have a good middle class job, that's funded by this activity, so, there's a lot of good things that happen on earth from space travel. steve: sure. we were told that it was going to launch precisely at 9:00, which is three minutes and 30 seconds away from right now but as we look at the feed from blue origin, the t-minus time they held at 15 minutes. we do not know what the delay is

but bill nelson, nasa administrator that was common in nasa days when you were there where they would hold at the last minute for a period of time i wonder why they are holding right now. >> well we don't know, but as a matter of fact -- steve: they just started the clock. >> that's good to hear. i tell you, i speak from the experience of our crew has the dubious record of the most scrubs of any mission. we scrubbed four times. steve: that's got to be frustrating. brian: right. >> oh, it was but the fifth try was an almost flawless six-day mission in space only to return to earth and 10 days later challenger launches, and blows up, and so it just brings home that space is hard, and you got to have it right. ainsley: uh-huh. >> is it worth the discovery

and i think it is and i think we all agree that it is. brian: and bill, my hope is that you're going to get more money in congress from the public to fund these tight missions from nasa and partnerships, because i think great things come out of this , and imagination and i also think it helps american pretige. ainsley: absolutely, eileen, terry, bill, wally, congressman crenshaw, thank you so much for being on with us. >> thank you. >> thank you. steve: thank you very much so we are according to blue origin's countdown clock, we're 13 minutes 34 seconds away from blue origin taking off from out in remote west texas. they are on board the new shepherd rocket, its been test flown 15 times this is the first time there have ever been people on board, mission should be 11 minutes, they are going to hit that height, capsule will jolt into space and then demonstrate back.

ainsley: jeff bezos, his brother mark bezos, a firefighter, the 18-year-old youngest up in space and the oldest, wally funk , the female 82 years old. brian: the good news is too, by the bottom of the hour we'll see the entire mission wrap up and hopefully come down to earth safely. now it's time to hand off to newsroom with sandra smith and bill hemmer, keep it right here.

>> sandra: it will carry them 65 miles above the earth where they'll get a spectacular view. the entire journey lasting all of 11 minutes. >> bill: it will come and go quickly and we'll watch alanette who has been in space three times. coverage from brett larson to talk about the future for all this and susan lee on the finances and economics. welcome to all of you. jeff paul is on the ground in van horn. we'll check with jeff in a moment. you talked to jeff bezos and his brother four years his younger and two others.