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broke that man's nose and broke his wrist, look at him, shoving him to the ground. the violent crime wave's gripping cities across america. it we are learning democrats who called for defunding the police have funded security for themselves on this price tag in some cases is pretty steep. you're watching out numbered. i'm harris faulkner. today host of kennedy on fox business, kennedy. host of no interruption on fox nation, tomi lahren and joining us on "outnumbered" for the very first time, mercedes schlapp, former white house advisor for strategic communications. i feel like i see you all the time. and in the center virtual seat, jason chaffetz, former house oversight chairman and fox news contributor. it's great to have you on the program, let's get to this. that man who is doing the mugging, the punching, the violence, and then the victim getting hit at least ten times

in brooklyn in broad daylight, that man forcing the victim to the ground. the attacker then as i mentioned going through his pockets ripping him off just hours earlier police say three teenagers attacked an off-duty firefighter who is out walking his dog in queens. you can see him at the top of the screen backing away from the mob to the teenagers heard shouting it was fight night. in washington, d.c., police say two men were shot and killed on sunday. in chicago, a gunman fired shots outside a hospital. over the weekend damaging three windows and another violent weekend there as well with 52 shooting incidents, 70 people shot and all of that, 12 killed. a forbes report recently found democrat mayors and nearly two dozen major cities who have been pushing to from the police spend millions of dollars on their own personal security detail all

courtesy of taxpayer dollars. we are footing the bill for them to stay safe but they want to take away the money that keeps us safe. it has democrat squad member cori bush under fire after campaign filings revealed she spent 70 grand on private security while calling to defund the lease. trey gowdy here. >> cori bush tells us she is progressive for the better word might be hypocritical. she wants to defund your police while she has a robust personal security detail in the washington and st. louis and in that sense, the clear message that her safety is more important than yours. >> harris: was she could do some oversight there. jason? >> jason: doesn't have to be that way. that's what is so infuriating. americans from coast-to-coast don't feel safe. they don't feel secure. what is the policy that the

democrats put forward? they are clearly on the record to defund the police. they advocated that. just last year, kamala harris was out bailing people out of jail as fast as she could to get people out on the street and was advocating for cashless bail. they went forward and raised the dollar amounts for a felony you see these people walking into a walgreens or target best brazenly shoplifting and taking the stuff out of the store when you watch these horrific videos, people don't want to walk down the street and the democrats don't have a single policy prescription to solve the sentence going to be the greatest contrast going into 2022 and his law and order issues. it is so black-and-white, so different from side to side on who is for law enforcement and who is not. >> harris: all i can think of is the former president from talking law and order. i know the last time i sat down and interviewed with him, that's a lot of what we talked about

and now look at where we are. >> mercedes: that was the central message for president trump last year especially when they saw these riots happening when cities were being burnt down. now what we are seeing is the aftermath, the fact is these democrat run cities are focused on defunding the police on basically shifting the resources from our police departments into other areas and what has happened is our police officers have been weakened. they've been demonized and they've been demoralized and it's very difficult for them to do their job if they don't have the support coming from these local governments and even from the state and federal governments so there is a way to work with the police as we know community policing is effective in these communities and it's the minority communities that are impacted the most when the police officers can't do their

jobs and the democrats are not giving them what they need to complete their duties. >> harris: will quickly come i want to come back to you on this because it seems so obvious with these lawmakers like cori bush. you are taking money away from defending police yet spending a huge chunk of taxpayer money to keep you safe personally, what does that tell voters? >> it's completely hypocritical and the voters are saying you elites are choosing yourself and your political position over my safety and the safety of my family and that is clearly the message that the voters will be thinking about as we go into 2022 because it does not work, it just shows that these democrats, these progressives have made this decision that they're going to go after a police officer yet they themselves need to be the ones protected against what they would possibly call right wing

agitators. >> harris: there protecting themselves against the crime wave that they are basically propagating. creating. >> tomi: of course they are. but i also go back to the contrast, law-abiding americans in this country have been given so many rules, regulations, mandates and the last two years from mask mandates to lockdowns, capacity limits. when we see the crime wave spiking, the first inclination of the democrats is to go after second amendment rights. it always seems they want to go after the rights of decent law-abiding americans instead of dealing with americans in this country that are causing the problem but is not just about defunding the police. he goes back to a lot of different policies. you see in california their governor because he is concerned about their recall saying they will have special task forces about shoplifting but you have to go to the root of the

problem, these crime and classifications all goes hand-in-hand but we have to support our police officers loudly and vocally and give them the funding and the morale they need but we also have to get rid of some of these policies that are in some places like california that event on the books for several years and you combine that with this culture of lawlessness and the acceptance of lawlessness and they have to own and fix it and they will have to do it before midterms because our country right now is in shambles. >> harris: they are running out of time. want to get to two quick things with you, want to start with this idea that we are tolerating terrorism in our midst. society is devolving in some areas and some of our most beautiful and affluent and productive for hiring people and making dreams come true cities. it is falling apart. it's not just the cops come and other going after firefighters, they just hate authority. the people in the streets were causing the problem. >> kennedy: they do. they really want to that fire to

the fabric of society when you are seeing that in places like san francisco and portland and back to one of your original points about this, she spent $12 million on private security from 2015 to 2020. they have reallocated that from their police budget to things like workforce training so if some of these lawmakers, if they really believe in that message then they should take social workers and workforce training is with them and set armed private security because the first thing people want to do is protect themselves and when police are retiring a month department is being defunded and response times are a lot longer, they know they can't rely on that and if democrats aren't directly coming after people and taking their weapons from them, they are making it a possible to

get ammo so you really can't protect yourself and this is a problem that is compounding every single month and no one really has a great solution right now. >> harris: washington, d.c., police chief here. >> we want to help people. yes, we should but you cannot coddle criminals. you cannot. you cannot treat violent criminals who are out here making communities unsafe for you and your loved ones, they might not want a job. they might not. they might not need services. but they may require is to be off of our streets because they are making it unsafe for us, that's what it requires, than that's what it requires and we have to own that. we have to own it because if not, we see more of this. >> harris: i don't have a crystal ball, but i would bet there is seven police officers in leadership and police across

the country considering running for office and couldn't you understand why that would be? >> jason: it's not just supporting the police that needs to change, it sees prosecutors and the democratic policies in the detention facility so you better have the prosecutors on like they have in los angeles and others, they don't even try to prosecute these people, there needs to be a consequence for these crimes and there isn't right now. >> harris: i love the way that you put it. they don't want a job, you can't rehabilitate them, they don't want to be in a program. it will move forward. up next, the biden white house promise to be the most transparent in history. it seems like press secretary jen psaki missed the memo on that especially when it concerns breakthrough covid-19 cases among the administration. it will tape. >> why don't you provide the number, are you trying to hide something?

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>> mercedes: critics are slamming what looks like another episode of covert hypocrisy as jen psaki refuses to review the record on white house cases after the media demanded to know that information about the trump administration and here is how she handled the question. watch. >> why won't you just release the number of breakthrough cases that you have in vaccinated staffers? >> first, we are in a very different place that we were six to seven months ago as it relates to the virus and its many medical experts have said inside and outside of the government, those who are vaccinated are protected from serious illness, most are asymptomatic and if they are individuals who are vaccinated to get the virus.

>> why not provide the number, are you trying to hide something? >> why do you need to have that information? >> transparency to the public. to mix what do you make of that answer? >> harris: this administration couldn't sell ice as nice store. you are trying to get people to get vaccinated because you know it's an unvaccinated problem right now, you want to make them safe, why don't you say here are the numbers for breakthrough vaccination cases of covid, notice the deaths are extremely low and some of the hospitalizations that 95 to 99% of people don't end up in either of those deadly or sick categories. it ice in a nice store. that's how you sell it. what you don't do is try to hide the facts and hope nobody notices that you're trying to whisper and all the while you have a president who loves to whisper good let him whisper

that. it actually might work. the truth. >> mercedes: the truth is they are trying very hard to push more americans to get vaccines but it seems like they have a bit of a problem in the white house where you have some vaccine skepticism there. do you think that's why they're trying to withhold this information? >> i do think that's right at the heart of it. they are out there trying to sell something but behind the scenes, they won't live by the same rules and be openly transparent that they promised they would be the most open and transparent so they asked a simple question that they could get the answer to from the physician's office there at the white house in about 10 minutes and she won't answer the question which begs the question why are you so adamant to not give this and why are you now going after the reporter saying why do you need this information? it was one of the worst answers than they do more to undermine and undercut their true objectives by the way she is

handling this in the way this white house operates. >> kennedy: when i watch that exchange, it does seem like they are withholding the something. it does seem like they are opaque and not transparent and the reason we are in the situation we are in and is still ongoing is because of china's lack of transparency so you want this administration to give as many answers as possible even if they are unconscionable. what does that do to undermine trust in the process and vaccines? >> tomi: when i listen to jen psaki, it reminds me of when you have a cheating boyfriend and you know they are cheating and then you ask them about it and they refused to answer the question even though you have solid proof. that's what jen psaki reminds me of every time she takes that lectern, those are always her answers but furthermore, covid from the onset of this pandemic has been about political convenience for the democrats are at least at their messaging.

first, it was no masks, then no masks, then double masks and then it was from vaccine, and now they want everyone to get vaccinated and they will go door-to-door to push it. at every turn, they wonder why the american people are skeptical and why they are nervous. why? this pandemic has been handled horribly in large part by the democrat party in the american people have a reason to be skeptical and then not answering questions doesn't help the matter. >> kennedy: you were doing this job so you know this entire situation from the inside out, how differently are they treating this administration? >> mercedes: they get a lot of softball questions but for the jen psaki to answer with a question, you know they are in trouble. what we're seeing right now is there is a movement towards this vaccine mandate in businesses, the white house does not mandate vaccines and didn't even talk

about what percentage of staffers are vaccinated. they are selling this product on the vaccine, they need to be transparent and giving that answer as to how many white house officials are vaccinated. >> kennedy: i bet the number would surprise us all but i also can't imagine we are going to get any of those numbers anytime soon. just ahead for us, six months into office, a new poll shows vice president, the harris has taken a big hit of favorability. she's underwater. someone throw her a lifeline. that's next.

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>> you haven't been to the border. >> and i haven't been to europe. i don't understand the point you're making. you're going to have to xerox or photocopy here idea to send it in to prove you are who you are. there were a whole lot of people especially at overlook community where there is no kinko's, there's no officemax. >> harris: but we all have phones and we can just take a picture. anyway, those are just a few of the gaps before the time she went to the border, that's happened now or uncomfortable moments from vice president, the harrises for six months in office and when you factor in her heavily criticized response to the border crisis and reports of a toxic work environment, it might not be a shocker that her approval rating is underwater and recent surveys. the real clear politics average of polling shows 44% of americans view the vice president favorably while

her unfavorable rating sits just above 46%. mercedes, working in the white house and you are leading your team, just going back to where you were and those kinds of numbers come in. what does the day look like at the white house after that? >> mercedes: it's always stressful when you start seeing these poll numbers dip but let's be real, there is the white house calms team and then the vice president's comms team and while they work closely together and i will say between president trump and vice president pence, it was a pretty harmonious relationship. there are differences because they are obviously trying to push their own agenda so when you have staffers within the vice president's office like we are seeing literally leaking on her basically saying how dysfunctional the offices, resigning, these are huge problems with the vice president. it becomes a distraction to the president.

and so right now but i would think is that the white house comms team has to be very concerned that every time kamala harris opens her mouth, she messes up. she obviously failed on the border crisis, didn't handle simple questions on when you going to the border and now they pushed her aside to say handle the voting rights issue so we have to see how that happens and that was a disaster because it became a super-spreader event so i have to tell you, she is only adding more negativity to this presidency. >> harris: with all due respect of those who are leading the country, no one says it's an easy job but all of the jokes are really about then candidate and former senator joe biden. now that kamala harris has gone down a very similar road as mercedes is describing, it becomes a double distraction, i would imagine.

>> tomi: i think the feeling on the minds of the democrats right now is they got joe biden with a cotton to office because he was supposedly a moderate and was a contrast to president trump but then they really had vice president harris which was their trojan horse, the one that would be the agenda and push it forward but i thought she would take over and she was given so many jobs because i think the thought was that she would take over but then they figured out that she is also horrible at her job so now they are in a real lurch because they have joe biden who is seemingly slipping every day and then kamala harris is not for any reason mentally slipping but is so they are in a real tight spot now. who is to leave the party? is it going to be alexandria ocasio-cortez and the squad who quite frankly are pushing the agenda forward and that's what should terrify all americans, certainly not the moderate presidency we were promised.

>> harris: that is quite the stark choice. >> jason: i think she's right here. kamala harris is not a moderate. she is a radical leftist progressive who does not relate to american. >> harris: senator mitch mcconnell said he never thought either one of them would be a moderate. he is known by or biden for years and knows he is not a moderate. >> jason: that was the promise of joe biden, he was going to unite the country and bring democrats and republicans together and work towards race relations and other things that didn't happen in the obama administration but kamala harris, the parallel and since he started running for office for president of the united states, she looked strong but before they can cast the first vote, she was in eighth, she's an ineffective communicator, i don't think she understands the country, she has no policy prescriptions and probably the most concerning to somebody who has looked under

the hood of the car to figure out how they are working here is the fact that less than six months into this office, you have somebody who literally has to go for psychiatric help because of the toxic work environment that she is administering there. so those types of things do not bode well. i don't think there's a soul in this country that things that she is truly ready to be the president of the united states. >> harris: what you're talking about in detail are those reports of a toxic work environment potentially a report of the air around us if you read before this vice presidency, they were problems with agn with the senator, not one cut to the next, but it is problematic. >> kennedy: there is one tie and it is the vice president herself. she is the one failing threat of

whether she would be stayed attorney general for the state of california and then end vice president and she's done a remarkable job of failing upward and there is a rift within the administration because they don't want her to fail all the way to the presidency while joe biden is still in office and that's why they're giving her these tough jobs because they know she is not up to the task. i still haven't figured out why they are trying to further tarnish her political brand but it seems like they certainly are. >> harris: you mean with the leaks and whatnot. before we go, what have you seen her do? nothing is perfectly bad or perfectly right. >> kennedy: i have seen her throw black men in present and seen her waffle on the border and this is a very -- you have to be able to tackle on many fronts and she hasn't been able to do that. >> harris: okay. we will move on.

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saying they disapprove of his handling of immigration and the border crisis in nearly 60% saying they disapprove of his approach to rising crime and gun violence across the country. jason, you are very optimistic person from a very optimistic state, the great state of utah so tell me, which is it due to a country when pessimism goes on a 20-point increase in just three months? >> jason: i am optimistic because i do believe the united states of america is the greatest country on the face of the planet and you can't break the american spirit but the democrats don't understand is that american spirit is in self-determination and liberty, not based on bigger, more government so i think you can read that the biden honeymoon is over, people are recognizing that the promise of joe biden and the reality of joe biden are to go totally different things. the biden promise was a lie and people want freedom, they want

liberty, but when you have rising crime, open borders, the unequal application of justice, that undermines all of it. when you have rising inflation and rising crime and the new delta variants and other variants terms of covid, what is that doing to people and what is driving their fear? >> mercedes: let's remember looking at these polls usually in this 100-day period, you should be doing pretty well but it's a mix of covid fatigue and stress and what's going to happen with this delta variance. the modeled message coming from the biden administration brought up inflation, this is a huge issue for families. this is the kitchen table issues that drive voters to turn away from one party to the other party. my? because gas prices going up,

consumer prices going up. a lot of stress on these families so on top of that, you've got the chaos on the border and what you are seeing is a lack of response coming from the biden administration. what are they focused on, and infrastructure package. changing our election system. so they are trying to get away from the pandemic and talking about it because they want to focus on other issues. obviously, their strategy is backfiring. >> kennedy: it is backfiring and what can they possibly do to turn it around? obviously if they could cut spending. they will never do that. they have to hone in on a more comprehensive message. that doesn't seem like they're going to do that either. they are all over the map in terms of spending and messaging so what do you do to give people a sense of optimism because when they are optimistic, they will spend money and when they spend money, the economy continues to grow. >> harris: i have never been a

politician but i'm guessing you don't go wholesale with the truth in every category. some good old-fashioned truth serum daylight would be wonderful but you could pick a couple of lanes. for instance, about inflation. how about a little fireside chat? do it from the oval office, wherever you want to pick, just do it from the house that we pay for them and sit down and tell us what the real deal is inside of our own house. we already know that the price of bread is going up. we are not stupid. so tell us how you are going to reverse track on that and don't tell us inflation is so temporary that you can't file. we are already feeling it. so just pick a lane. you can pick that lane. probably not going to touch the border crisis. probably not going to touch election laws, but maybe you pick another lane. maybe you pick this one. we want you to know being honest with you about how many vaccinated people have had

breakthroughs in the proof is in the pudding. just pick a couple of lanes. >> kennedy: also demonizing small businesses, how about that? coming up, dropping g.i. jane? the explosive debate over making women subject to any future draft after a controversial measure passes a key senate hurdle. that's coming up. so then i said to him, you oughta customize your car insurance with liberty mutual, so you only pay for what you need. hot dog or... chicken? only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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did you hear me? anyway, let's move on. some republicans are blasting a proposal that would require women to register for the draft for the first time ever. the provision is in the senate's defense budget forcing women between the ages of 18 and 25 to sign up with the selective service just as men are required to do. however, two codefendants hawks, tom cotton and josh hawley are opposing that provision. senator cotton himself an iraq veteran tweeted this. "our military has welcomed women for a decade and are stronger for it but america's daughters shouldn't be drafted against their will. i oppose this amendment and i will work to remove it before the defense bill passes. jason chaffetz, where does this go? >> jason: i disagree with the senators. you draft men, you should draft women but in congress, i was in a very small minority of republicans but i don't think there should be a selective service, we should get rid of

it. i don't trust the federal government with that information and i think it was true and needed that the people would rise up and volunteer to support this country and fight for it. i don't believe there should be a selective service in this day and age. >> harris: of that were true, recruitment would be very different than what it is but we will see what happens. >> mercedes: i think things have changed quickly. what we know is that when this ended up in the courts back in 1981, it basically said men were the only ones that had to register. now that we have seen in 2015 about the department of defense said women can serve in combat, this opens up a phone world in which they might be difficult for women to say wait a minute, i am not going to be drafted because they might change their position on this. >> kennedy: jason is absolutely right, there shouldn't be a draft at all when they say her daughter should not

be drafted against their will, neither should our sons. that is a form of indentured servitude, it is very un-american and to both of their points when 9/11 happened, all you had to do is talk to some of the people who enlisted to defend this country because they were incredibly brave, didn't know what was ahead of them but still signed up and there are millions in this country who would do the same thing and not against their will. >> harris: i think you're right in terms of what happens on american soil but when you look at sending our forces to afghanistan for the longest war in those decisions that are made, i wonder if that would truly be the case moving forward. tommy? >> tomi: we want people serving our nation to love our nation and that's a problem we have in our nation as it is but i also say the military is not like other jobs, it is not a social experiment and it should never be a social experiment, we should have the greatest fighting force on the face of the earth which we do but we

need to do that by putting their priority in the fight and a battle and being strategically ready and is not going the aid that in any way, but i also agree with my friends, i do believe if we want to raise americans in this country that if god forbid anything like that would ever happen and people would need to step up, i would hope we are living in a country and for decades to come where americans would want to stand up and protect and defend freedom in their country but it also is back to the schools. look around right now. we had a draft or a horrible event that required people to sign up, i don't know how many young people you would get as it is and that to me is a problem. >> harris: so what has to happen? everybody here brings up this excellent point about where they really are in america and that's what i'm pointing to. can we trust people that are fighting about stuff that doesn't even matter to fight for us, what needs to happen? >> jason: i interviewed for my

podcast, a guy who was part of it and took out usama bin laden and he said while they are building their forces and learning to fight wars, we are over here arguing over which bathroom to use so this wokeness that has infected the united states military has got to go. we have to have the biggest baddest military on the face of the planet. we fight and win wars. that means you have to kill people. not a place where social experiments that tommy is talking about. >> harris: that is fascinating so if you twist back, more so than the draft, great combo. we will be right back. i'd like to take a moment to address my fellow veterans because i know there's so many of you who have served our country honorably. whether it's 2 years, 4 years, or 32 years like myself. one of the benefits that we as a country give our veterans is eligibility for a va loan for up to 100% of your home's value. so if you need money for your family, call newday usa.

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fierce criticism used when use pictures of athletes opening ceremonies in the olympics. the images included pizza when the italian team arrived, sam and when norway walked into the olympics stadium. a picture of a people in haiti as it showed that team and a picture of chernobyl for the ukraine team. the networks said in a statement nbc used inappropriate images and captions to introduce some countries during the tokyo olympics ceremony on july 23rd. we apologize of the country is concerned and the viewers. what happened there, tommy? >> i mean it's pretty bad, i have to wonder if joe biden was in charge of that because it seems joe bidenesque to me. if this happened in the united states of america i would tell you cancel culture would be

coming for that network and it would be very bad. i think you would be able to get away with it, but it was a bad mistake and in poor taste. but in the atmosphere of cancel culture we can just laugh it off and chalk it up to a mistake. >> i'm not in the inner workings of taking the images to show the olympics but who thinks this is okay in any regard to? mean really. >> i don't know. i'm still smiling know that for el salvador they picked bit coin. i thought well, that's an interesting pick. but it was really poor taste with all the pageantry and they don't need to put up stereotypes on the screen. that's just bad. >> i'm going to take this conversation someplace else.

you know, we've been watching the backs of some american athletes to see if they would turn the back don't like their backs on the anthem or the flag and you get something like this, this actually run the world is getting a little bit more talkative what happens on the podium. and one is kind of interesting. >> first of all i think the images of the food, definitely it's making me hungry. i'm not going to lie. but so sad that it's right. we've had these usa own pins that have represented our country, kneeling down when the national anthem is played. it is an honor to go to the olympics and represent the united states of america and when those metals and do the best i can but when it's about politics, that's why you see so many people turning off the

olympics because they just want to see america win and not be divided and that's what they need to push for. >> that's interesting kennedy. do you think that plays a role that there were some athletes who perhaps would carry this out? i mean the olympics aren't over yet. >> noel. i think what we really need to worry about are the uniforms and the outfits of team usa was wearing during the opening ceremony because that's been the most offensive thing so far. >> what? >> we were so bad. [laughs] >> you're on the fashion patrol with us, too? >> i have not watched ten seconds of the own picks. the wokeness totally turns me off. i am not going to let you know what, i'm just sick and tired of these pretentious people who can't stand tall for the flag in

the united states of america. you can't do that in unison, but i'm not going to watch it. >> what was your sport? >> i mean place kicking. not kicking football is a universal thing everybody loves of course. >> jason chaffetz on "outnumbered outnumbered." sadie's, wonderful to see you. thanks everybody, "america reports" now. >> a scathing report revealing how mayors and city officials have pushed to defund the police last year and spent millions on private security to themselves. it comes as the country marks another violent weekend in democrat lead cities and more on that straight ahead. >> and whether the biden administration will revive mask mandates for fully vaccinated americans? we will also hear from jonathan turley, three time olympian lolo