unfortunately, that is all the time we have left. make sure you check out my show at 9:00 p.m. eastern. have a great night. laura ingraham is up next. >> laura: laura: how are you? i see you and all i can say is the metrics and the call posts very fuzzy, not clear where we are going. >> i think everything is fuzzy with this administration but that is just me. laura: we have a lot to get to. masks and mandates forever. that is the focus of tonight's angle. president biden and the cdc want you to believe they've changed their guidance on masks because the science has changed. >> i have said from the

beginning we will be guided by the science. following the science. we know we can dramatically lowers the cases, we just need to finish the job. >> we are not changing the science, the virus changed. the science involved with the changing virus. laura: the science is not changed. like all pandemics there are viral variants and mutations but the science, the immunology has not changed. the variance become more transmissible but usually not more deadly, often less so. that is immunology 101. for many months very smart and thepolitical scientists have been saying vaccines would never mean 0 covid infections that would curb hospitalizations and deaths. for 15 months we've known those who died from covid have one if

not two, three, or more serious morbidities. we've known the elderly and those with metabolic syndromes would suffer the most. >> the more we see this disease the more we understand the severe rapid covid is in diabetics or pre-diabetics. we haven't had anyone under 70 72 didn't have a very high bmi or prediabetic get seriously ill. it is amazing stuff. unprecedented. >> especially italian studies, physician saying we are not even saying they are dying of it but with it because they had so many underlying conditions was we've known since bring the children have an infinitesimally small chance of dying from covid unless they have a serious underlying condition. the data unless it is framed

incorrectly does not lie. countless revered physicians have come on this show to say that is the reason why any of those kids should be forced to wear masks in school or on planes or anywhere. the real science on masks hasn't moved at all. with all this as a backdrop recent biden administration changes recommending masks indoors are arbitrary and disconnected from the science. >> it is very strange and i don't know if we've reached the end of the scientific unit here because if we look at the data, currently covid death in the united states is lower than it is been ever since the pandemic started. >> when jen psaki was pressed about the breakthrough infections they had at the white house? >> to release the number of cases you had. >> we are in a very different

place than we were 6 or 7 months ago as it relates to the virus and we are in a different place in terms of the impacts of individuals who may have it. >> are you trying to hide something? >> know but why do you need to have that information? >> did anyone notice that on friday? it is obvious they don't seem to think the case numbers matter because they don't report all the cases to the media at the white house, they don't even track them but when they went to fort masks on us our vaccinations and lockdowns it is all about the case numbers but even president biden admitted that covid deaths are down, nowhere near their peak. >> the death rate today is way down. remember how dark that winter was. over 3600 americans were dying

each and every day. now even with the surge among the unvaccinated we are down to that 300 americans a day. significant. laura: 3000 to 300 so why we continuing to hold america hostage for a disease that is overwhelmingly survivable even older americans have given the writerly therapeutics. why are we not talking about the use of vitamin d, fitness, getting in better shape and diet. there is no question that this is in part about controlling us, not protecting us. look at australia. they have very few cases or deaths. compared to other countries they never had that many cases and in

australia they are locked down for four weeks after having been locked down for four weeks previous. lockdown for the left are the policy, not the answer or the solution. if they were new york and california would have led the nation in preventing doesn't hospitalizations long ago. the media today actually seems disappointed that president biden appeared to rule out lockdowns. >> you said earlier we are not headed back towards lockdowns but if the science is evolving how can we be so positive? >> if anybody -- if everybody is vaccinated the existing vaccines work to prevent deaths, serious illness, hospitalization. okay? if tomorrow could wave a wand and every american got vaccinated then in fact we would be out of the woods. >> that is the bar now? the left prefers lockdowns to life before covid.

they prefer working from home, they are fine with borrowing as much money as possible to keep paying people not to work. they think requiring rent payment is unfair. that paying tuition is unfair. fine with punishing and excluding and shaming americans decide for themselves against getting the vaccine, and they love the masks, they will face shields. even the secretary of defense, that is not him wearing the face shield. biden had his chance to bring back the american love but he yielded to the media, the left, the permanent bureaucracy, he made a colossal mistake by ceding territory to fauci and the cdc, it is obvious there's no science that will compel them to urge restrictions be lifted. because it is all arbitrary. cdc director rochelle wilensky

makes doctor birx look like madame curie. how long will. state voters put up with this madness. these mandates i'm going to change the views of conservatives and independents. if anything they are going to make them trust the vaccines less and they see the media clamoring for punishing whether they have natural immunity are not. >> every federal government employee will be asked to attest to their vaccination status. anyone who does not a test or is not vaccinated will be required to mask no matter where they work, test one or 2 times a week and generally will not be allowed to travel for work. >> why not push for vaccine mandates? >> i would like to see them continue to move in that direction.

>> there's always going to be the next thing. 100% of america gets vaccinated, biden cited that earlier, then we would be okay. not really. what about the boosters? when will those be the next hurdle? >> many of you are wondering if you need a booster shot to add another layer of protection. as of now my medical advisors say the answer is no. no american need to booster now but science tells us there is a need for boosters then that is something we will do. >> you see where this is going? if the science tells us, the press goes isn't this great, he's listening to the science. does the science swears will pull the constitution of the united states, the experts have been playing a game for 18 months on this. we were told we could get back to something approaching normal to do all these things. we did all these things and none

of it works come to the post 9/11 restrictions ever get lifted? do you still take your shoes off at the airport when you go through tsa? do they remove those surveillance cameras everywhere after 9/11. covid is there excuse to do everything they could and pushed through in the normal legislative process. they want all of this to roll into 2022-2020. they will site covid to justify the need for more ballot harvesting and extend the voting time. i don't believe that the american people are prepared to live under this many restrictions. i think more people are going to come to realize there is no way out unless we get new political leadership. americans will free themselves. no one's going to do it for them. this is all about preventing

covid, focus on finding out where the virus came from in the first place to stop the next wave. if they hadn't trashed the therapeutics and antivirals that speed up recovery from covid they would have shut down the border, not continue to seed america with covid the migrants who tested positive. i want to be as clear about this as possible tonight, the dominant faction and democratic party does not want life in america to return to normal. they don't like capitalism, they don't like freedom, they want americans to shut up and do what they are told. doesn't matter how many people take the vaccine, doesn't matter what the caseload looks like on any given day, doesn't matter how much evidence we haven't lockdowns i bet for public health, they do not care. since they control the media there's always going to be another variant, another study,

another excuse to maintain serious restrictions on american life. even if covid disappeared completely overnight, another alleged crisis, maybe this climate change to promote a similar agenda. the less freedom of speech and expression the better. the higher gas prices are the better. the democrats efforts to change america through these draconian policies, runaway spending and endless borrowing will long outlast covid. they won't stop when the science tells them to stop. they are only going to stop when the election returns to into. a reagan era wipeout in 1980, in 1984 would look good right now and that is the angle. doctor peter for, epidemiologist, we will get to the covid are coming at the

moment but the washington post just got its hands on internal cdc documents leading to updated guidance and the data claims the delta variant in a vaccinated person may be as contagious as with an unvaccinated person. you heard what biden said, if 100% of americans get the vaccine we are going to stop the spread. house that makes sense given the data pouring in right now? >> we have four major things that evolved over the last few weeks, a wedding in houston where everyone was vaccinated, democratic legislator from texas to washington, a british naval vessel where all the sailors were vaccinated and in all those circumstances cases emerged of covid and from baylor college of

medicine in houston demonstrated indeed patients who are fully vaccinated can acquire, carry and transmit the delta variant of covid 19. laura: when biden says if 100% of americans get vaccinated we are not going to have this problem, you won't have to be in masks. what does that mean? >> israel has 80% of people fully vaccinated as of july 2, '03, in the last week 5000 cases, they have 84% of cases fully vaccinated. it is clear we can't vaccinate our way out of this. laura: the therapeutics, being used all over the world with a pretty good result. the data on that is stunning. vitamin d, being in better shape, early intervention. if you get covid, if you are in

decent health you should be okay with it overwhelmingly. that the data. is it not? >> industry. we should be focusing on the one% of americans who get covid 19, high-risk seniors should get antibody infusions, the approach i published on and held the world come up with outpatient treatment for covid 19 it reduces hospitalization and death by 85%. laura: the vaccines had a positive effect on seriousness of illness but it won't the mandates they came up with this week, there is no way according to their ever shifting metrics. one of the things that has come out of this debate is the intimidation and retribution campaign we've seen against medical experts, renowned experts who speak against the conventional wisdom.

biden himself engaged in a little bit of this from the podium today watch. >> i want you to know i'm going to do everything i can to encourage the unvaccinated to get vaccinated, that includes addressing hesitancy and misinformation head on. jillian: laura: state medical boards announced that physicians and other healthcare professionals could be at risk of losing their medical licenses if they spread what they deem to be covid 19 vaccine misinformation on social media, online and in regular media. i understand you too have been targeted. tell us what happened to you regarding your professorship at texas a and m. >> the same day they announced a mass vaccination program they slapped me with a lawsuit in

baylor, aspen with the longtime, first-class organization, my wife and i are major donors to the foundation and i've never gone out in the median scientific meetings and falsely represented the organizational at texas a&m or any of the universities i hold a position it. i'm giving my opinion based on the data. i am pinpoint with these citations. laura: they claim when you say some of these therapeutics may be helpful, there are breakthrough infections which they have admitted, significant number of breakthrough infections that spread, you are spreading misinformation and representing the university. is that would baylor and texas a&m are claiming? >> they are trying to paint me as a vaccine skeptic. i'm just reporting the data. fact checkers checked me. table 5 of the uk 19 very report

showed 229 cases of delta. i can tell you 48% of them are fully vaccinated. of the 460 who died, 0.2% mortality rate, of the 460, 65% are fully vaccinated. these data pinpoint. any fact checker can tell them i'm trying to help america understand the pandemic. laura: data doesn't lie if it is presented fairly. doctor mccullough, thank you. the left isn't just trying to control you in perpetuity but it is hoping to take states to court if they fight back, the doj warning states could face legal action if they rollback any covid era voting rules like unfettered absentee and male in voting. turns out after all the accusations about donald trump weapon icing the doj it is the biden administration deploying these intimidation forces the joining us is alan dershowitz, author of the case against the

new censorship. explain why this is unconstitutional. >> the justice department has the right to enforce voting laws. i don't think they have the right to demand that state stick with covid instituted voting rules designed especially for covid but they can't restrict voting. we all have the same goals. we want every possible eligible voter to come to the polls and vote and we want no non-eligible voters to come to the polls to vote. the justice department should enforce the voting laws. if they try to extend voting laws, to knock down identification the supreme court will strike that down so the justice department on the one hand but the supreme court overseeing the justice department. everybody who is eligible should vote, nobody who is ineligible

shouldn't vote. how to strike a balance is difficult. as far as mandating vaccination i think the supreme court would uphold gradual mandating of vaccination, conditioning going to school and being vaccinated for getting on airplanes, going into crowded buildings. ultimately if it became absolutely necessary they would quote george washington in the middle of the revolutionary war the mandated vaccination against smallpox. laura: are you saying -- i disagree with this analysis. covid 19 is not smallpox. i don't think you have to overrule, you can distinguish the jacobson case on the basis of the data, mortality, infectious, how many people it kills. this is not smallpox. it is not a fully approved vaccine either. >> neither was the smallpox vaccine in 1905.

covid is worse than smallpox in many ways. it may not kill as many people but we don't know what the long-term impact is. >> killed 300 million people worldwide. >> i have the right to get on an airplane and know that everybody on the airplane is vaccinated or test. you may have the right not to get vaccinated but no right to spread the disease. even if you won't kill me -- laura: have you not been listening, this is harvard law school. i didn't go to harvard law school but i did hear the president today talk about how if you are vaccinated you spread the virus, you still can spread the virus. the data out of israel, date out of the uk -- >> it will be spread much less seriously. we don't know what we don't know. >> you can deprive people of constitutional rights on the basis of the vaccine that still allows the spread of a virus.

>> there is no constitutional right to get on an airplane and spread the disease to me even if it is not going to be fatal. i have constitutional rights. laura: it is not smallpox, thank you. some republicans voting to move forward with president biden's infrastructure plan. we will ask senator lindsey graham and moments. how does the white house all problem? more coming up.

laura: the biden white house is to blend average infrastructure framework calling it historic. the 70 republicans who voted to advance the bill throwing biden a lifeline. is one of those 17 republican senators lindsey graham, this is $1 trillion bill, facing massive inflation and other pressures and donald trump said you've made his terrible deal the republicans are big losers here, democrats the big winners. wising wrong? >> i think he is wrong. he had over $1.7 trillion infrastructure spending which i supported, we can never get it done. this is $1.2 trillion for roads, bridges and ports and if you

don't think we've got a road, bridge and port problem you are not looking at america the way it is, $3 trillion bill they want to follow along with his socialism but count me in for roads, bridges and sports, i understand what i'm for and what i'm against and i think america -- laura: you think it is the same economy it was when donald trump was in office, inflationary pressures we are seeing today have no effect on the spending and this is not a glide path to make $3 trillion in spending possible. a huge win for the white house they are true. >> we are spending the money, the inflationary, putting money aside for a port plan to upgrade what i just said, doesn't create inflation. what creates inflation was a $3 trillion bill with tax increases. we will see. i think america needs infrastructure and i'm for it

and doesn't need socialism. i'm against it. laura: why didn't you do what -- pelosi played hard on you role of why didn't you say we will on infrastructure once you show your hand on the $3.5 trillion, why are we giving leverage democrats on the process, pelosi says we are doing it the other way and you're like okay. >> you nailed something so follow this. it is going to pass the senate with democratic and republican support. $3 trillion bill won't get support. does nancy pelosi hold the bill hostage? does she get the $3 trillion socialist wish list? good luck with that, she's going to merge the two bills and it collapses in the house. it will be a shame if we can do something good for america

because she wants $3 trillion to socialize the country. we will see our place in the house. laura: you think the order of these bills was correct, doing the infrastructure first and then letting them tackle that$.5 trillion which she said that's not going to fly. >> in the senate cinema and mangeneral likely to do a $3 trillion bill if we can do a bipartisan bill for $1 trillion dedicated to real infrastructure. we will see how that plays out. nancy pelosi is making a big mistake. she's going to insist the socialist bill passed first, good luck with that and she's going to throw the bipartisan bill over, kevin mccarthy will say we are not going to play that game. >> we hope it works out that way. i don't think anything over you. arkansas senator tom gotten voted against the infrastructure builds what did lindsey graham get wrong in his analysis?

>> the reason i voted against this bill is call me old-fashioned i think we should have a bill to review and study carefully. i gather there is still some backstage last-minute negotiations happening, i don't think that is the right way to start the legislation. second it is clear chuck schumer and president biden are trying to ram this bill through, with a $3 trillion blowout spending deal that will try to transform america into a socialist nation with reckless taxing and spending but there's no rush year. we are not against a deadline, the deadline is not about to close, troops are not about to lose their pay, there's no reason to rush a bill like this, she we should focus on getting it right. >> speaking of the president's goal he let it slip tonight. >> how did your meeting on daca go? >> went very well. the reconciliation bill is the message now.

>> the reconciliation bill grows by the day, permanent entitlements, family medical leave, universal preschool and masks, immigration amnesty. >> bad enough they have this reckless spending scheme and want to include amnesty for millions of illegal aliens when we have 1 million new illegal aliens because of biden's border crisis. it would be the height of folly, tell the world when they are rushing the border if you get here in time you too might get amnesty. that's why we have to fight with every fiber of our being to stop this bill and especially to stop it from giving amnesty for millions of illegals when we have such a massive border crisis. laura: we have massive inflationary pressures in our

country, we need to spend additional when all we have to do is open the country and get rid of ridiculous mandates it is insane, destroying the future generation of the country. destroying it. >> biden and the democrats are causing inflation not just by spending trillions we don't have to locking up the supply side of our economy. people won't go back to work because uncle sam is giving them a bonus on a facing social distancing requirements organist on to slap mask mandate back on them, the biden democrats, more money than we have and also don't allow our economy to open back up and get people back to work, that is why we have inflation in this country, 100% because of president biden's failed policies. laura: do you think manchin and cinema will say no to this bill or ultimately this thing gets through? >> can't speak for my

colleagues. in capitol hill these days it is not just senators, you have a lot of house democrats their unhappy the bill doesn't spend more money and have more reckless tax increases in it. i think they've got a lot of rocky shoals they have to navigate in the month that and the best thing for america would be not to pass a multi-trillion dollar bill that will continue to drive up inflation and time this economy. laura: they always stick together in the end. thank you. the performances from the two adams kicked off an interesting debate, when is it appropriate for men to cry in public. the catalyst for the social media firestorm that walsh is here next with a helpful guide, stay there.

>> i never expected this data be >> i didn't expect today to be quite as

emotional as it has been. >> didn't expect -- >> that tenth of the debate spurred by her next guest about whether real men cry in public. joining is matt walsh, host of the matt walsh show. what is wrong with men showing their sensitive vulnerable side in public? why is that a problem? >> it is interesting, i mentioned cry in public about the men responded to that statement by crying in public which made me rethink my original assertion. there are exceptions like if a loved one dies or you come home from a long deployment, get your arm stuck in a wood chipper, watching the end of a movie, i

can publish a guide if a man is about to cry, consult the guide to find out if it is okay. i could do that if i need to. my real point is a simple one. men should try to control their emotions. you can go too far the stoicism end of it. we are airing way on the other side of that. control your emotions and not cry all the time. people react to that was one of the many common sense things, people react, don't just disagree but react like it is the most insane outrageous thing they ever heard. there were guys threatening me physical harm because i told them not to cry, they were crying when they said it. laura: there are some tough guys who occasionally the you motion overcomes them. one of my favorites is brett favre.

he was retiring and that is emotional. don't -- do women love that? may be they do. he was so torn up and joined the jets. i'm just teasing. >> i will allow them. if you're retiring from an athletic career just don't retire in the middle of the competition. laura: how about crying at your daughter's wedding. that seems an acceptable moment. >> this is why need to publish the guide so people can consult and i would agree that is another acceptable location. maybe 2 or 3 others. laura: don lemon is on tv quite frequently.

>> we intervene when you start killing us like that. i'm sorry. laura: that was not when he looked at his last ratings, that was heartfelt. a lot of men with fragile emotion these days and that is what we are learning. laura: keep calm and carry tissues. can social justice insist olympics hurt american athletes for years to come? my next guest is an olympic commentator next.

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♪ ♪ >> laura: the olympic games historically deliver great american stories laura: the olympic games historically deliver great american stories and showcase our pride in our nation but instead they've been engulfed in everything but this year. it began with hammer throwing gwen barry turning her back on the american flag and continued with trakstar no a while raising his fist in solidarity with black lives matter and culminated in the women's soccer national team taking a knee before their first match against

sweden where they lost. the games themselves have had great moment and we love that but the bulk of the coverage seems to revolve around covid or underwhelming results and mental health and viewers are voting with their remotes, ratings have plummeted 50% since 2016. joining me the library who competed in the 2008 beijing olympics and is now an olympic commentator. you say the social justice movement among athletes is having a negative effect on all athletes whether they are involved in social justice causes or not. >> what winds up happening is when these athletes were becoming known for what they're doing off the fuel are on the field about social justice when

they taken the at estate takes away from all the other athletes who are having incredible performances and that is disappointing. we shouldn't be talking about this but the girl or boy that goes to the grandest stage and went olympic gold medal for the greatest nation on earth. from found 36% of americans were less interested in these games that are delayed obviously in the 2021 games are delayed because of the situation and out of the 36% who were less interested 30% said it was due to the pandemic and 34% said was due to politics and the polling director went on to say the olympic spirit is a bit damp, it has led to a backlash among some americans. he went right to the blm point

which i found depressing. >> people watch sports for inspiration, not to be preached to or to have people pick their own social justice cause, sports up in unifying, brought people together. you don't look at someone based on race, gender or redness city but marvel at the wonders of the human body and athleticism and this year with the woke that has taken over we are talking about that and that diminish the olympics, diminished sports. laura: a prominent sportswriter captured the current attitude among many new athletes. >> the opening ceremonies. nationalism is not good. white nationalism, nationalism is not good. i keep thinking on the capitol

riots and i saw a lot of us flags. laura: shouldn't national pride be a thing, one of the few things we can all say good on you, great thing, awesome, love your country but now that shouldn't be part of the olympics greatest moment of my life was walking in the stadium with team usa chanting usa and representing the greatest country on the planet. america is a great country, the other pics can showcase that. nationalism is great. you should be proud of your country. if you are not proud of your country find another country to compete in. laura: you are a master of 5

sports, a lot of pressure and does it get to you, did it get to you, do you see the mental health issues we are seeing a lot of this olympics with simons in the biles back when you were competing? >> there is always issues behind-the-scenes. two aspects can get in the way and one is the focus, difficult level of focus and the other is the emotional piece of it. i don't know which piece is affecting her. it is concerning that we are seeing an uptick of that. don't know if it is because of covid or anything else but is another story taking away from great stories at the olympics. laura: the idea that someone would spend all their waking hours getting ready and then walking away, they don't do so lightly. there is a lot going on. i have enormous respect for you not only for what you accomplished all those years ago

but you are looking to get into politics, maybe in the senate against michael bennett. we will follow that race, thank you. coming up, could there be another world leader as stumbling as biden, the last bite reveals it next.

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