choose the app that fits your investing style. ♪♪ ♪ ♪ >> emily: fox news alert, we are relating new data from the cdc on the highly contentious covid-19 delta variant that was used to justify its reversal en masse glaring. we are expecting to hear the delta variant is about as easy to spread as chicken pox with each person on average spreading into eight or nine others. the data is also expected to show that a fully vaccinated person may spread it to others at the same rate as someone who is unvaccinated. the cdc only now releasing this

data after facing mounting pressure to explain its controversial 180 on masks. this is "outnumbered." i'm and look upon you. julie banderas, carley shimkus, physician and fox news contributor nicole saphier, and in the center virtual seat, fox news radio host guy benson. welcome to you all. president trump's former assistant health secretary is out with a dire warning for unvaccinated americans telling them it's only a matter of time. watch. >> this is so infectious that you will get it. if you had covid before, we don't know exactly, but it's looking like prior immunity is not so good against delta, and i'm really considered the evidence is mounting, that it will not protect you against delta. >> emily: dr. saphier, please help us to make sense of this and understand what this means for vaccinated and unvaccinated

americans. >> dr. saphier: i think a lot of people are confused right now. admiral is to giroir is my person. israeli data suggests is extremely rare, but if you have antibodies from a prior infection, getting at least one dose of the vaccine skyrockets is antibodies up. if you have immunity and get at least a single dose of the vaccine. the big messaging failure in my opinion for the last week has been that these vaccines are continuing to prove how well they work. what we are waiting to see right now is what the cdc is referring to, showing that even though vaccinated individuals have an extremely rare chance of being hospitalized or dying from a breakthrough infection, they may be able to transmit the virus because of some of these higher

viral loads. i think it is possible, it's probably going to be a transmission level of vaccinated individuals similar to that alpha variant. the fact they say it may be just as contagious in and unvaccinated person, i'd like to see the date on that. what they showed is that, if you get vaccinated, you have a 25 times reduction in hospitalizations and deaths and that is the message. these vaccines are keeping people out of the hospital, saving lives, and that's how we see this uncoupling from severe cases and new cases. when you look at those severe breakthrough infections that have happened in vaccinated individuals, 75% of them are over the age of 65 or otherwise immunocompromised. rather than doing a blanket universal masking and other restrictions and even threatening lockdowns, we need to learn how to live with this

virus. we know at this point he was the most vulnerable. it's been the same people all along. vaccinated or not, they are still at risk. these are the people he should be protecting still, we should encourage them to a medical grade masks and avoid large indoor gatherings, but for the remainder of the population, especially those who are vaccinated, the risk of the severe outcome is extremely low at this point. i do not think lockdowns are warranted. >> julie: guy, last hour i was talking about these lockdowns. as far as lockdowns are concerned, that was going to be less case scenario. the cdc infected release some information at the end of the last hour stating they are not going to be doing lockdowns. so we know that's not going to happen, at least they don't anticipate lockdowns. there's still a question of whether kids are going to go into school full-time, mandating masks. there are cities like washington, d.c., now doing it, there's a double standard in the house and senate requiring members in the house to wear a mask, and senate members are

optional, which makes no sense. but there are a lot of mixed messages coming from the cdc. my question and concern is how confusing this will be. how confusing is it to all those at home who are trying to get some sense of normalcy in their lives, to stop the spread of the virus, but also make sense of the messaging? it's rather confusing. >> guy: is extremely confusing and i don't think it's going toe soon. if you look at some of the guidance being put out by the cdc, we were told in the talking points for months and months, it basically revolved around vaccination saying that, if you are fully vaccinated, then you are fine. or at least you can go back to your normal life. that was the incentives that was presented to a lot of us. really, to the whole country. people went out dutifully and got their vaccines, which is great, the vaccines work extremely well, and now you get this backtracking with officials at the white house and the cdc

saying, well, yes, it still works very well, but you're going to have to wear a mask indoors if you are fully vaccinated because of unvaccinated people and because of this viral load. i saw a "new york times" tweet for example getting a lot of criticism that suggested that fully vaccinated people and unvaccinated people are as likely as one another to transmit the virus to someone else. other people are saying actually that's not what the cdc -- >> julie: that is so wrong and reckless for them to print something like that. >> guy: right, it's not true. it's one little piece on top of the next where people feel like their heads are spinning. what is true, what is not true? anything we are doing that is undermining faith in the vaccines and not encouraging unvaccinated people to get vaccinated is missing the point. >> emily: doctor, can you clarify that for us please? that's part of what we lead with. this is what the cdc is

intimating, at least on some level. can you help clarify that? >> dr. saphier: they have yet to release this data, but i can tell you it's probably because there has been some pockets of breakouts, local breakouts, that are happening amongst vaccinated individuals. so they are taking viral samples of these vaccinated individuals and showing that they have high viral load. so they are saying because they have such high viral load they can probably transmit it to other people. but we don't actually have the data that shows that. unfortunately, they haven't been doing strict contact tracing, so we don't know that that's true. the best we can do is look at the other places that are coming down from their delta variant. the u.k., india, israel. they show, just like we are seeing, a rise of cases is drastically uncoupled from severe illness and hospitalization. even if this virus is continuing to circulate in vaccinated individuals, it's causing

asymptomatic disease or mild disease and they may be transmitting it to other people. it's going to likely be much less. we don't have the data, so we can't say that. again, everyone at this point knows the best way to protect themselves is to get vaccinated and protect those around them. so for the people who are choosing not to get vaccinated, they know that risk at this point. it doesn't make sense, as guy said, to ask all the vaccinated to mask up again. they done everything they can to protect themselves. if they get infected at this point, it's likely going to be a mild upper respiratory infection like the common cold. if someone is immunocompromised, they know they need to protect themselves. they will avoid certain situations, they will wear a mask if necessary. this is not new, this is p covid. cancer patients, transplant patients, they know this. they know this. it's up to us as americans to do what we can to protect ourselves, and we know that's by getting vaccinated, and if we

choose not to do that, that's an individual freedom just like smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol and other risky behaviors that can have consequences. >> emily: and, carley, both julie and guy brought up the hypocrisy but some of these policies and rules and regulations. we also see that in the public shaming department everyone's favorite big brother, twitter, for example, when a group of g.o.p. staffers were playing ping-pong with water, photos were taken, they were mask lists, they were ashamed. where was that shame when a group of texas democrats who shall remain nameless got on a plane maskless and spread it all over the place? there you go, there's a photo. i don't even need to say it. >> carley: there's been hypocrisy, the marek going to mexico for his daughter's wedding telling everybody else to stay home. but all this is why people have so much trouble trusting the

federal government. the cdc can release all the new data that it wants, but all you have to really do is look at what's happening in individual states. in new york yesterday five people died from covid-19. in the most populous state, california, 28 people died. those numbers do not match the fearmongering message coming out of the cdc. like dr. saphier said, we do need to start living with this virus. now that everybody has had an opportunity to get vaccinated. the crazy thing is, there's a lot of good news that the biden administration should be celebrating. 80% of seniors have been vaccinated. 60% of adults have been vaccinated, and many more who haven't didn't do so because they have natural immunity. i've never seen administration b cell adverse to taking a win. >> emily: that is such a great point. i know we are all looking forward to that data being released. we will keep you posted as it

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not just for government employees, but for all americans. >> why not push for vaccine mandates in states, private companies, schools? do you want to see those entities pass vaccine mandates? >> i'd like to see them continue to move in that direction. that's why i pointed it out. i asked the justice department to determine whether they are able to do that legally, and they can. local communities can do that, local businesses can do that. it is still a question of whether the federal government can mandate the whole country. i don't know that yet. >> julie: guy, first of all, legally, whether they can do it or not, is it the right thing to do to force americans to get a vaccine? i mean, here in new york state, for example, back in july of 2019, vaccinations were mandated for kids to go to school. not covid, obviously, but just all vaccinations. that's different. the covid vaccine, first of all,

hasn't even been approved by the fda. we know it's effective in fighting covid, but you mandate it across the country? seriously? >> guy: i think mandates should be few and far between. there are certain circumstances, for example people who work at hospitals or elderly people and interface with the most vulnerable every day. for an employer to say, as a requirement to a q you're going have to get vaccinated, i think most people would be okay with that. but for the government to come in, especially the federal government, and say everyone has to do this, you're just not going to get that compliance. i think it's a waste of time and energy and in fact could be counterproductive to talk about mandates rather than finding creative new ways to reach out to vaccine-hesitant people to convince them to get vaccinated. i think it's the right thing to do, i am proudly fully vaccinated, but throwing around mandates or the specter of mandates probably does more harm than good. >> julie: former surgeon

general jerome adams's warning about the impact on hospitals that this could have, which is an interesting point. let's watch that. >> our hospitals are starting to fill up yet again, and that puts us at risk of not being able to get elective surgeries done. that puts you at risk if you have a loved one who ising youry whether you want to believe it or not. >> julie: dr. saphier, again, you are emphasizing the point that the vaccination works. we know know vaccination is 100%, but what's your reaction to the former surgeon general there, and his warning? these are dire warnings for what could potentially come to hospitals across the country. >> dr. saphier: julie, jerome adams is a very smart man. respected very much. i love what he did when he was surgeon general. my personal opinion is it a

little disingenuous to tell people -- it's going to give them a bit of ptsd when you go back to a year ago when hospitals are closing. you couldn't get into the doctor and surgeries are being canceled. again, we are missing the message here. these vaccines are actually keeping people out of the hospital. even if they are big suitcases, it's very rare for that person to be hospitalized. the people we worry about are the unvaccinated, the elderly, and the immunocompromised. but that's a much smaller portion of the country now than what it was a year ago. so i don't believe the majority of hospitals are going to be inundated with hospitalizations unless something changes. do i think that in certain pockets of the country with low vaccine rates? yes, i think some of those hospitals could see a rise in hospitalizations, and yes, they may feel scrapped. but to say it is a blanket statement for the entire country, i don't think that's true, it's a little fearmongering, and i think we need to continue to pound out

that message that the vaccines are keeping people out of the hospital. to go back to that transmission question, with the cdc has said about saying the delta people could transmit as much, they are really just basing that on one local outbreak in massachusetts. if we are going to start having more mandates and saying people are just as transmissible, it needs to be based on massive data, not just one local outbreak of less than a thousand people. >> julie: speaking of data and following the science, this is what i do understand. carley raised a really great point about how the white house should be patting itself on the back with the numbers they have, with the 80% of the elderly, as carley mentioned, being vaccinated. that's incredible. but then to come and make it almost seem like the vaccination works, so that's good, but if you don't get it, we'll force you to get it. in the cdc leaking out data, it's trickling in as we wait for these new reports, it is just sending a bit of a mixed signal,

and mixed message, if you will. >> emily: all these points are adding more fuel to the fire of the confusion, and the inability of this administration to articulate with specificity what is going on, and to your point, carley, to pat themselves on the back to take the win, it is such a stark contrast with the polio vaccination, for example, when americans were really invested in that vaccination and understood exactly the benefits and why rather than being beamed over the head with, "you need to take this," with that annex the nation. to go back to those mandates historically, they can see when there is a nexus, when it's tied to public school systems, employment, the private sector, as well. they are not seeing a type of mandate that the blanket one for every single american. i wonder what that would look like in the court system especially now when there are religious and medical exemptions that people can take. we saw when those loopholes started to widen in the past, for example, with measles shots

in public schools, as a result people started to apply for that exemption and it led to breakouts, severe breakouts, the courts tightened it up, and the proof required and the documentation required became really severe. look forward to -- this is frankly an example of an inability to articulate with specificity from this president, but i think he would be a really high bar to cross. i do not see that in the future. however, it can be tied again to employment, schools, et cetera. >> julie: we should hope not. but if history repeats itself and you look at the state of new york, a democratic state led by a democratic mayor and a democratic governor, they did rule at the religious exemption for vaccinations in order for children to go to school here. a lot of people have to leave the state of new york if they choose not to vaccinate their kids. we have seen a wave of brazen robberies and shoplifting of stores all across the country, and now an ultra woke district attorney is reportedly defending

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it is proving that defund the police was really just part of the problem. now a lot of top cops are saying that it's this revolving door, where they are arresting people and they are immediately released back onto the streets because of these criminal coddling policies by prosecutors who are acting more like defense attorneys. for example, in chicago, 90 people were charged with murder and released on an ankle monitor. last year alone in new york 500 people were arrested, released on bail reform, and immediately rearrested, some of them for felonies. this quote from the san francisco district attorney really says it all. he says police make arrests in just 2.5% of reported thefts. he goes on to say maybe that's a good thing. maybe that means they are prioritizing murders. so stealing is okay. he's giving the green light to steal. just because it's not murder, that's exactly why san francisco is a total unlivable disaster

zone. >> emily: by the way, ankle monitors are private companies who run that, so it's good to see the relationships between our federal and state agencies in the private companies are alive and well and their profits aren't going anywhere. to carley's point about acting like a defense attorney, yes, those questions are for the defense attorney. we need the district attorney to act like prosecutors. >> julie: absolutely. for them to give this guy a free pass and excuse his behavior based on his background, of course, every criminal in this country has a freaking background, that's why they call them criminal backgrounds. we are not interested in his emotional issues. leave all that emotional issues. but i don't jump into a walgreens and strip them of their entire section with a black bag and run out like an evil santa. when you watch that video of the security guard, by the way, the first time i remember watching this video i was like, oh, boy, he didn't even go after him. and he can't, that's the problem. security guards have no power,

police have no power, and i bet you if he was standing at the door they would have let him go. why? especially in san francisco, they don't have a mayor who will tell the cops to stand up to these guys. let them go, he probably can't afford all that stuff he robbed anyway. >> emily: right. and remember at rite aid when a security guard or employee did try to stand up to that shoplifter, he was killed for it. this is not worth these people's lives. this d.a. was elected by a slim margin, less than 1500 votes. he had never prosecuted a day in his life. this is a career defense attorney with a background in -- that's for another story. but it's a background in essentially antigovernment terrorism extremists by the family that raised him, and he's now proving to be the point of what those voters voted for. >> guy: they are left-wing d.a.s in san francisco. l.a., philadelphia, and you are seeing these results. in this case, in san francisco, you've got the guy who is in

charge of enforcing the law empathizing with a shoplifter, a serial shoplifter come talking about, maybe he was desperate. was the mugger who mugged barbara boxer elsewhere in the bay area, was that a desperate person? we are going to make excuses for criminals making them at committing crimes? a lot of the stores are shutting down, that they can't operate, it'sunsusta. what about the people who work at this place is, do we empathize with them when they're out of a job? what about the grandmother gets her drugs at the walgreens, are we going to empathize with her? or are we going to empathize with the criminals to excuse and explain away their criminal conduct? it's wild. >> emily: that is such a great point. remember, those walgreenss that closed in san francisco, that'st distributed the vaccine for free. so in terms of services, that's

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for team usa? >> i don't root for countries, i root for athletes. >> i root for them individually. i'm not going to root for any team just because it's a country i live in. >> emily: guy benson, those guys seem to be enjoying the amazing educational opportunities afforded them. in this country, at least. right? >> guy: the lack of gratitude among a lot of people to live in the greatest country in the history of the world, and they don't even seem to agree with that premise, is frustrating to watch. you can go around and find college students almost anywhere and get them to say stupid things. as a sort of part of the college experience. you can find people who will say this kind of thing. one thing that strikes me that this year's olympics, you have some conservatives who seem to be rooting against certain teams or athletes in team usa because of their political statements. you got left wingers or left-leaning college student saying, i don't root for the country just because i was born here.

i'll only root for athletes. maybe the country isn't so great. i feel like the olympics typically, through time, has been this opportunity. it's like a moment where we can come together and wave the flag and router team usa. i think most of us still do believe in a very polarized time right now where even the olympics is shot through with division and political posturing, which i think is sad but a sign of the times. >> emily: julie, can you imagine if one of your daughters came home and was like, "i don't like being an american, either, but i'll sit here and laugh about it while you eat my lunch at this campus." ." it's appalling. >> julie: it really is, that how appalling is how idiotic some teachers are you are actually teaching these kids, so it comes down to bad teaching, bad parenting, and who is teaching this kind of unpatriotic behavior? when they are here? way that you get the heck out, then? a move to another country and see how you like it. these kids, these young people,

they are winiers i'm not talking about the booze, they are whiners. if my kids talked about that, i can't say i would punch her because that's a little violent, but she get grounded. at least take the ipad away, something. my children love watching the olympics for the patriotism, and that's what the patriots -- with the olympics all about. i'm shocked at how ignorant these kids are. that's sad. >> emily: not to confuse it with the movie, "bad teacher," with cameron diaz, which is so great. your thoughts? >> carley: i've never seen it, thank you for the hot to. >> emily: justin timberlake is so good, you have to see it. >> carley: will never hear college students say they don't want to live in america, they hate being in america, i want to ask them, where do you want to live then? first let's tackle the "america

is bad because as colonialism" argument. you can't live in england, spain, france, portugal, denmark, sweden, or norway, either. they're the original colonizers. if you hate capitalism so much, by all means, stepped foot in venezuela and cuba and see how it is. you'll if you go to cuba right now you'll see a lot of american flags because those people know what it's like, what real oppression is like. they are acting more patriotic in terms of america then even some young americans are right now. >> emily: that's right. dr. saphier, as we look at conflicts throughout the world, the american flag is a symbol of democracy and freedom. it is certainly not a symbol of something to be ashamed of. this is what these college students are saying, they are ashamed of america. >> dr. saphier: listen, emily, as the mother of a 21-year-old, i can tell you to take what they say with a grain of salt. the frontal lobes of their brains are not completely formed and they're not paying taxes, so do their opinions really matter?

[laughter] when they grow up and have to act like adults, maybe they'll have some appreciation. in fact, this country has the most religious and social freedoms than anywhere else in the world. or how about that, if you go to china, if you go to cuba, they can shut off your social media just like that. something tells me this younger generation won't do well with shutting down the social media. these children are not educated in the ways of the world. >> emily: no, and this is the first generation that statistically will not come even close to matching their parents' level of education. so, frankly, i'm frightened for the future. i'm going to go hide under the bed. coming up, the lodging numbers showing the surge in the air passengers acting badly, sometimes violent, and what flight attendants are now doing to defend themselves. ♪ ♪ not everybody wants the same thing. that's why i go with liberty mutual — they customize my car insurance so i only pay for what i need.

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passengers just this year, 600 plus investigations opened. here is just a glimpse of some of the awful behavior that flight crews have had to deal with. >> oh, my gosh. this is so [bleep] ghetto. >> julie: i mean, that's in the terminal. i swear i just sighed dumb i saw a repeat episode of the maury povich show. emily, i'll go to you first.

more and more of these videotapes need to end interests. i honestly don't think there's enough deterrent out there to stop these people from acting like animals. >> emily: right, and that's part of what the unions are advocating for. not only a heightened statistic of federal prosecutions against these passengers in these violent altercations, but also for messaging. the unions are asking the doj to step in and also the airlines and really be clear for messaging for these passengers. if they engage in something like this, they will be prosecuted, banned from flying, and the like. but i just can't imagine in the self-defense around how it's in those tight spaces, too. business. it's just a whole thing, i feel so bad for these employees here. >> julie: guy, either tough enough restrictions and penalties and punishments out there to stop this? why are we seeing so much more of this just this year alone? >> guy: that's what i was trying to figure out. you said maury povich, i'm

thinking more like jerry springer in the sky here. this is so intense, these videos. why is it happening so much? i can't imagine the pandemic is irrelevant here. i feel like there's a lot of people cooped up in their homes, not really traveling as much. now they're coming back into airports and airplanes and being asked to wear masks at all times p and there on a hair trigger. maybe people have forgotten how to comport themselves in public a little bit. that has to be at least an ingredient, i would imagine. >> julie: it is so sad, there's a kid in that video. it's really horrifying, carley. i mean, watching these videos, i don't know if this is necessarily sending a message that this is unacceptable, because the more and more we see it, it almost feels like passengers just become unrulier. >> carley: my mom was a flight attendant, my aunt worked for an airline. my cousin is a flight attendant. so i sympathize with flight attendants. they are now getting treated really poorly because people are miserable on planes.

ultimately it's the misbehaving passengers' fault, but i also placed blame on airlines. flying has become the single most miserable voluntary experience in a first world country, and no other industry are people willing to pay hundreds and hundreds of dollars to be treated like garbage. and that's not the flight attendants' fault, that the airlines trying to make money by squeezing people into these planes like sardines. there is zero communication and absolutely no customer service. i think part of it has to do with airlines, as well. >> julie: dr. saphier, do you think it has to do with mask wearing and mask mandates? is interesting, when you watch these videos, a lot of people don't even have their masks on. she does come of it she had half a shirt on, as well. there goes the mask. do you think that's what's causing this, that combined with it making it really hard to drink your cocktail? [laughter] >> dr. saphier: i am wary of giving any defense to this disgusting behavior. i think, as emily pointed out, there should be absolutely no

tolerance for this. but, absolutely, and unfortunately the airlines are continuing with some of these very harsh restrictions when it comes to traveling. we have to actually look at it and say, what can we do to allow people to start taking the mask off and airplanes? especially for those longer flights. it is hard, especially when you are traveling with children and you have the mask police constantly walking up and down the aisles. if you trying to have a sip of water, if you're not quickly putting that mask right back up, "put your mask on." it's very frustrating. they need to find a better way. because they have great hepa filtration systems and airlines. what can they do to lessen people wearing masks? whether it's proof of vaccination, antibodies, rapid testing, do what you can to make traveling more pleasurable experience. >> julie: emily, i think just legally speaking, something needs to tighten up. >> emily: i think it's the enforcement we need to see, and the messaging. because the laws are totally there, but that is sort of the common thread we've been talking about -- >> julie: enough.

>> emily: exactly, correct. exactly. >> julie: i say arrest them all. [laughter] i don't think children should also have to wear masks on airplanes. i mean, it's just so weird. you can eat, you can drink and take it down. i mean, it's ridiculous. but anyway, poor kids. i need a drink after watching these videos. i don't know about you guys. we'll be right back. up next, brad pitt in the boardroom? why corporate guys are embracing long hair. ♪ ♪ i'd like to take a moment to address my fellow veterans because i know there's so many of you who have served our country honorably. whether it's 2 years, 4 years, or 32 years like myself. one of the benefits that we as a country give our veterans is eligibility for a va loan for up to 100% of your home's value. so if you need money for your family, call newday usa. with automatic authority from the va, we can say yes when banks say no.

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day. now they may be back. with barber shops closed, many men are letting their hair grow long. some corporate guys are keeping the long locks. guy, had ever worn a man bun or grown out your locks? it is pretty high and tight possibility it was once long? >> matter. i have never had long hair. >> i hate to call you that on , but you are looking a bit like bobbio. i think it is a good look for you. >> that is photoshopped. >> what are you talking about? the picture was taken last year. in the midst of the pandemic, you got extensions. >> you are in the sun a lot. >> i did some facial hair during the pandemic. it would come and go.

it had mixed reviews, i would say. that was my version. >> i left the beard, by the way. i shaved mine before the show. but i love this graph. that is big. it is not just the long hair. it is the beard. i had grown my note long. annalee, your hair has always been a long, and you are not a ma do you like men and long hair? t brad pitt's face all day, but that is not what a lot of board members look like these days. >> kylie, are you into the long hair? >> perk first of all, guide, you are perfect the way you are. i have seen more men do that because that beard. my husband is one of them. i like it does also. i like a bit of scruff. i like brad pitt with shorter hair. matthew mcconaughey also looks better with shorter hair. speak i've got to ask you,

nicole. is your 21-year-old? i can't believe you have a 21-year-old, by the way. now i feel old. my kids are young, but i am pretty much the same age as you. i think i had kids a bit late. >> my husband and my 20 and 1-year-old both have great hair. even by most people's standards, it was a bit longer. to be honest, i would rather look at both of them every day over brad pitt. >> guy, would you like to look at brad pitt? i'm not sure how to -- >> yes. >> i want to include you. >> if you look like brad pitt or matthew mcconaughey, it is easier to carry it off. we have seen what i look like with long hair, and no one needs that. if you look at matthew mcconaughey are brad pitt, they can carry it off

better than your average board member, which was one of the points we made a moment ago. they can get away with a lot. weird outfits and eccentric care. they are good looking. >> when you have a face like brad pitt -- no offense, nicole, i think he's cute. that is all the time we have. had a great weekend and get a haircut. thank you to everyone. now here is "america reports." >> sandra: lawmakers on both sides of the aisle siding the alarm of the crisis on the southern border. lindsey graham and democratic congressman henry cuellar saying the situation is getting so bad that they want president biden to bring back a top obama era official. senator lindsey graham himself will join us live. >> we will also hear from carl brough on "the new york times" essay saying that noncitizens should have the right to vote. charlie hurt is here