katie is vulnerable in orange county, california. >> neil: i am jumping on you. >> there you go. we will have to wait and see. >> neil: we call these hard breaking news. thank you very much. now "the five." >> ♪ ♪ >> ♪ ♪ >> i am dagen mcdowell with austin, greg gutfeld. it's 5 o'clock in new york city and this is "the five." 7 minutes into joe biden's presidency and the border is a disaster. video shows more illegal immigrants crammed into a room amid rising covid fears. we are getting staggering new

numbers. 212,000 migrants were apprehended in july. breaking a 20 year record. the numbers went up every month since president biden was sworn in. the homeland security secretary mayorkas was at the border today trying to down play the situation. >> the situation at the border is one of the toughest challenges we face. we have seen surges in migration before. they are not new. >> while biden officials claim there is not a crisis, look at this texas judge who deals with the situation firsthand. >> we are all very, very frustrated. what people don't understand this is not just a border crisis. it's a national crisis. president biden failed the american people and failing us here on the border. we are battling a war against

these refugees that are coming illegally with our hands behind our back tied. not having the resources to do this. >> greg, the floor is yours. >> thank you. what should i do with it? it's really dirty. it's absolutely awful. >> that's the problem with "outnumbered" they leave it a mess. >> this is the best education for the viewer to see how corporate media works. why do these photos not matter? why does the suffering not matter? the media team is in town. the corporate media turned every facet of life into a team sport whether it's the border or covid or law enforcement. they find out what side they are against and pick the other side. that's happening here. under trump, the concern about kids in cages was mere theater and false outrage.

you can contrast the dramatic changes in behavior. outrage under trump. ambivalent under biden. it's not about immigrants. it's about our disgusting dirt bag media. life doesn't matter to them. politics does. they don't care about these people. and the media's demonic mockery of unmasked americans and ambivalence towards illegals streaming in who do have covid. is covid really that bad if the democrats are fine letting in people who have it? of course it's bad. they are like a crack head. there you go. >> i am thinking about that. total agree. if you look at the poll numbers biden has a 35% approval on immigration.

57% disapprove. martha, it's anything the white house has been tethered to the poll numbers. maybe this is the best chance for the country to have some semblance of the order at the border. they react to not the suffering, know the children put at risk, not been the fentanyl coming across the border but it hurts people in the white house because people are upset with their politics. >> there is another poll that is interesting. the independent borders. president trump had approval on immigration issues among independent voters at 39%. that's high. biden is at 31% with independents. those voters will look at these issues in 2022. it's been a rough week for the biden administration. we will talk about afghanistan in a moment. when you look at inflation and the rise of covid with the delta

variant and what is requesting on at the border. there is a bit of whack a mole going on in terms of managing a crisis. when i listened to the secretary at the border. he said the border is closed. then he says the problem is 212,000 people came across the border in july. it's obvious that the border is not closed. it's clear to americans. he talks about how the trump administration dismantled the whole system at the border. he is referring to the question of how they dealt with unaccompanied minors. we know the history on that and kids in cages. it was a difficult period in the trump administration.

the fact -- they have to rebuild it he is saying. we are letting in unaccompanied minors. the question of whether or not that's a more humane way to deal with children to be accept great -- separated from parents to come across the border. people at home are scratching their head. this is a difficult situation for the biden administration. >> where is kamala harris? she in charge of border crisis. clearly she's doing a blockbuster of a job. >> look, they had stumbles of presentations from the vice-president for sure. she has tried to back away at any rate issue. i think -- one thing about the surge is that is comparing to the year of the pandemic. if you compare to a normal year,

this surge is not out of the ordinary. there is an article in the texas tribune that showed at the same point this year with 419,000 illegal immigrants coming across the border. in 2019 it was 450,000. it is comparable to that. the achievement of the trump administration was not reducing illegal immigrants into the united states. it was reducing legal immigration. they cut legal immigrants want student visas by more than 60%. that was a mistake. >> i would love to get to the point where we could talk about that. talk about reforming immigration. we can't without border security. 1.20 million people have come across the border. 19,000 kids. you let the first thousand in, people are selling their house to get their child to go with

a stranger to go through dangerous situations to get to our country. there are no winners. mayorkas knows better. i believe mayorkas is the fall guy want the vice-president won't step up. the vice-president stepped back. greg, we need you to host "the five." i will step back. that's not an option. this is a disaster. it was preventible. for joe biden to be in delaware and hiding out on vacation and the border coming to it pieces is inexcusable. >> one question, greg gutfeld, who was the 35% of the people polled who think that immigration and the border crisis is okay? who approve of it. who were those people? >> i don't know what they are.

in every poll there is between 25 to 35% idiots. >> crack head idiots. >> a lot of people don't think we should have a border. it's not right for to us have a border. >> no homeland security and no protection. >> they can talk to the people who have lost relatives to drug overdoses up 30% in 2020. talk to those people or anybody who is hammered and damage by drug trafficking. president biden sending u.s. troops back to afghanistan as the taliban takes over. >> ♪ ♪

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to afghanistan because the taliban made a fierce comeback. the red all over that screen and and this it happened within 10 days. they have retaken the entire country. they for control of two-thirds. there are concerns that the taliban could take over the capital of kabul. the biden administration is sending 3,000 u.s. troops to get the remaining personnel at the u.s. embassy out of kabul coming months after president biden announced the withdrawal of u.s. forces from the region. he said yesterday that he had no regrets about the decision to pull out of afghanistan. i understand there was a meeting last night at the white house with the defense secretary and the department of state. they decided they would send 3,000 troops back in. we are learning this afternoon

that kandahar the second largest season has fallen. only kabul is left. that's where the u.s. embassy is. brian, your thoughts? >> you covered it great on your show. they are going in not to save kabul but to get our people out. this is one of the ultimate embarrassments of my lifetime. where is the president of the united states? in delaware. the second of defense did not approve of president trump leaving the kurds naked in syria. he quit. for general austin to serve as long as he did and for him to do this and follow orders and not speak up is inexcusable.

admiral kirby knows better. he said it's no big deal. guess what happens? as we speak they are being burned alive and married off to the taliban and giving up and running for the hills. not because they have no courage. because they have no leadership. their leaders were trained. left them at the doorstep. we left without any plan and left irresponsibly and china is giggling. we look as bad as the rustsians when they ran for the hills in the 1980s. >> that's why we should not have gone there in the first place. >> we went there 20 years ago. it's a great example of how we

are lied to. we were told if we left all of the kurds would die. we are war wary. you for jail. you are trying to stay awake. the moment you fall asleep someone will take your shoes. do we stay awake forever in afghanistan. >> [overlapping talking]. >> the presence can be technology. >> [overlapping talking]. >> we don't know what is going on, on the ground. >> how have we been there for 20 years and not know what is on the ground? >> we left! >> [overlapping talking]. >> what was the mission in the first place? >> bin laden. >> but the building of the schools and it's a national security of the united states of america to have a presence in that area and have eyes on the ground and get there quickly. now china and russia are filling that void. china is watching what is

happening. >> [overlapping talking]. >> for 100 years people have been going into afghanistan. >> would you call it a responsible withdrawal? you spoke to someone who can't believe what he is seeing on the ground right now. >> your analogy to vietnam is the perfect analogy. should we have remained in vietnam? >> [overlapping talking]. >> what if we left south korea and japan? what would that do to our influence in the region? in 2014 we stopped the offensive and went on a supporting role. we haven't lost a man or a woman. >> the afghan military are not able to put up a defense means we would just be the policemen

in afghanistan forever? when would we leave? >> we are the defense for japan and south korea. >> are you willing to do that in afghanistan? >> our presence was providing stability in that region. denied al-qaeda and isis when president obama thought this was a great idea to leavi iraq. >> joe biden said this is not comparable at all. this administration's foreign policy is that of miscalculation and under-estimation. if they can't handle afghanistan. wait, the taliban took over faster than we thought. leaving behind women to suffer cruelly. what are we doing with china?

where does that leave us? that's right. they are a competitor, not an enemy. talk to the families of 4.5 million people that dried around the globe because of the china virus. this is a sane on america for years to come. it raises a multitude of questions about the direction of our relationship with any allies. we just turned our backs on the people who helped us. >> and the young men and women who lost their lives in afghanistan who believed they were fighting for something that was nobel. if it's your son or daughter, what are you thinking right now watching the entire thing go back to square 1, they died for nothing? >> it's still salvageable. >> this is a lost cause. this is a terrible thing. people thought there valiantly.

we got bin laden. when do you say enough? do you want another 10 or 20 years? that's a logical question. you can't demean people -- >> [overlapping talking]. >> you mischaracterizing the situation on the ground. you are right if you bring that up and you have brought it up in the past about president trump's plan. i got. i didn't agree with it then and i said it. number 2, you are not asked -- greg, your point is well taken in 2010 and we are losing a dozen guys here and there. i get it. this is not a hot war. this was a holding. we had influence in that region. you had a generation of afghans and women who had a chance to live their lives. they don't understand what we

did. >> the 20th anniversary of 9-11 coming up how long do we wait before a terrorist group regroups in that area and attacks the united states? >> that was the original mission to make sure it was not a safe haven for terrorists. >> and the 9-11 pull out date was an artificial date. president biden wanted us to leave on the 9-11. coming up americans are suffering pain at the pump and president biden's solution is to ask the middle east, opec, you can loosen up the spigot now that we gave off energy sources here at home. we'll be right back.

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>> president biden feeling the heat over soaring gas prices. some states averaging more than 4 bucks a gallon. the president begging opec to beef up oil production. critics point out it's his policies that crippled energy production at home. >> i want to make sure that nothing stands in the way of oil price declines. i made clear to opec the production cuts made during the pandemic should be reversed as the global economy officer recovers to lower prices for consumer. >> a person said texas could produce that oil if your administration will stay out of

the way. when we reach energy independence we don't have to kiss the ring of opec. we can live cheaper and cleaner. he is reversing it. >> no, that's confuseed. >> okay. how dare you. >> this year production of oil in the u.s. will average over 11 million a day in the year. >> why is he begging opec for help? >> he is doing what president trump did in 2019. what president bush did before that and president clinton before that, which is, there are a lot of disputes within opec. during the pandemic some of the countries tried to cut back production because they thought the price was getting too low. the u.s. president put pressure on opec to give way to the opec

members that want to increase the amount of production. i do think politically it's a tough spot. when the price of gas goes up. people think this is the president's fault but it's because of u.s. policy that is not correct. the economy back people than people thought it would. we have restriction of supply and the demand is too high. >> brian, we killed the pipeline. that cost thousands of jobs. this doesn't make sense. to kill a pipeline and ask for help. >> and the difference between president bush and clinton and others who said start pumping more. you had a guy 2 days prior ride around in a electric car and we

will make the combustion engine old news. if you go to texas where they have leases in new mexico and they can't drill there because it's federal land. they destroyed that industry. austin, if you say we are drilling at the same rate, i have not checked the barrel rates today but i have seen a lot of crashing. you have no right to talk to opec 2 days after telling everybody that oil and gas are destroying the world. now asking for a favor. >> that's a great founth. -- point. martha? >> you change the tone when you stop giving federal leases for natural guess.

we had reached energy independence it was extraordinary and not be reliant on foreign sources. it put us in a different position. made it clear to other countries we were determined to find our own sources of drilling, to expand the pipeline availability. that message has reversed. that message is no longer where people view the american approach to energy. >> dagen mcdowell, you were hot on this story yesterday. tell me why austin is wrong? >> everything that comes out of his mouth is wrong. just kidding. bear with me. a white house official said we will push forward with our ambitious climate agenda but we are also going to try to stop this temporary surge in gas prices by begging opec to produce more. this illustrates how fake their

green energy policy is. it's moronical for them to do this. you are discouraging production here, but then you are encouraging it elsewhere. that serves zero purpose in fighting climate change. it's call global warming because we are talking about the globe. we are talking about the world. where a barrel of oil is produced is irrelevant. where that tail pipe is, is irrelevant. if your rationale is to fight global warming. this maneuver has zero impact on total fuel consumption. >> if you promote electric cars there is less demand for oil. that doesn't raise the price of

oil. it reduces the price of oil. that's the argument for the green revolution. >> you promote electric vehicles and try to reduce fracking and the production of natural guess in this country used to produce the electricity you need to charge these cars? i could belch a better energy policy. >> please don't. >> [laughing]. >> who really benefits from our green energy policys? china? >> yes. >> we are better off producing oil here. they emitmore pollution to produce the same amount of fuel. the fuel will go on ships to china who is building enough

coal fire plants to power all of germany. that's pollution. >> is there a free market way to get electric cars? >> if there was a way to do it, they would do it. >> you tax gas prices and make is so expensive people are forced to buy electric vehicles. >> up next the white house said villains should be let out of the jail during the crime wave. smart. [relaxed summer themed music playing] ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

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controversy for what wants to do during a crime wave. press secretary jen psaki said president biden is looking to undo the 1994 crime bill he co-wrote and let drug offenders out of prison. >> we are working hard every day to reform our justice system to strengthen family and boost our economy and give people a chance for a better future. the president is committed to reducing incarceration. he said too many people are incarcerated. too many are black and brown. >> senator tom cotton takes a different apreamp. -- approach and says america has an under-incarceration problem. >> i am for releasing drug offenders. if someone can have a martini, you should not be in jail.

law and order is sustaining a civilization. it's civil. when badexist, you have to do people think these reforms, if you walk in any direction in new york city in 2020 you see 2 things. people at their absolute worse. half dead doing things outside that should not be done and people who are a violent threat on 6th avenue. these are the consequences of disorder. i like order. we are seeing the consequence of an abdiation of laws and we for a world of disorder in the name of reform and returning to the dark ages am we are losing what makes humans humans.

when you walk down any street in the city you feel a loss of humanity. we should not let any violent offender out. we are letting out felons and they are hurting elderly asian pill but is there non-violent drug offenders, those are the people we should let out and let's steer our resource there is and keep the violent offenders in prison. >> you talk about all of the gun crime in major cities.

they are gangs in many instances. the fast majority of gang activity is drugs and drug trafficking. so you go after -- you prove these are racketeering organizations and you go after the gangs and their drug activity and their gun activity. you prosecute murder at the federal level and put these individuals away. these gang members, these murderers away. that's what the white house should be doing. we hear nothing about this. >> do you agree? >> tom cotton's article shows we don't because small numbers of people are incarcerated for minor drug offenses. it's the mentally ill on the

streets. clearly part of reinforing law enforcement has to be incarcerating people who are unrehabable. >> when i hear the white house talk about this issue, it feels like there is a disconnect. they are not seeing what is going on, on the street. they are addressing an old problem. something that was assessed 10 years ago about systemic issues that lead to the break down of families when people are incarcerated. you have to deal with the issue that is happening right now in the streets. people get arrested and go away for 3 hours. then they are back on the street again. dagen mcdowell is right. there is a link to organized crime. i hope they approach this like they approached the mob in new york city. you have to go after the head of the organization and break them down so the young people don't

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>> ♪ ♪ >> here we go. the daily mail with another report on hunter biden and it's a laptop. obtained it from 2019. he tells a prostitute a russian drug dealer stole another one ever his laptops. listen. >> [muffled audio]. >> that's interesting. his dad knows the russians stole the computer and martha, when do people pay attention and realize this is not just a drug adult

abuser? >> i wonder about the sex worker. what was her game? why is she involved? i am curious. i i don't know what to say anymore. i he is obviously just a mess. a total mess. why this is not a valid story is preposterous. can you imagine if anyone in the trump team showed up with a videotape of a prostitute saying the i think the russian guy stole my laptop and the prostitute says to blackmail you? how does he get away with this? >> not yet. victor davis hanson last night said he is trolling his dad and they will pay attention to this like they did with cuomo. >> the big story is not hunter. it's the corrupt media buried

this story to sway an election. what is the media did is as big as watergate. this is the same media that pushed a 4 year steele dossier lie. this doesn't stop. for political reasons, cnn doesn't report. the tech giants threw a blanket over it. i have to admire the sex worker. she is a great listener. it's like a broad band cable service where everything is bunled. you get the crack, sex and counselling. >> i am sure this worker is tied to the russian government. i find this whole thing sad. the guy was on drugs. you should be embarrassed. this is not a news story. >> it relates to his dad. >> you should not take this

salacious interest -- >> i was trained by your side. >> wait a minute, wait a minute. >> i thought that should not be a presidential issue. >> because it didn't exist. >> it didn't exist. we should be above that. >> he's been pedalling influence and selling access to this dad even when he was the vice-president of the united states. there is nothing more clear than that. can you say compromised? >> paging adam schiff. get to the bottom what have russia has on the son of the current president of the united states. we blurred out that photo of hunter biden. release everything so we can get through it. every time we do these segments, i have the drive he was in the commercial break. >> 3 laptops are gone and "one

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one more thing before woe get started. weigh want to say thank you so much to our wonderful college associates. there they are lily, this is their last day here on "the five." we apologize for all of greg's demands on you. [laughter] >> greg: i have never met them. i have never met them. >> you need to meet them tonight. they are remote? >> they have no choice. >> dagen: thank you so much for all your hard work. and we know that you will do great things. >> remote interns.

>> they do a great job. >> it's a funny bit. >> brian: it's not funny at all. >> greg: very funny. >> dagen: next week greg will have a bit on his show called remote intern starring kat timpf -- take a look at this golden retriever, do you think golden retrievers are nice? not if you don't feed them first. they aren't. yeah, that's odi. greg, go. >> greg: all right, let's do this. ♪ animals are great ♪ animals are great ♪ animals are great. >> greg: most annoying song ever made. all right. this is kind of a strange relationship. i'm not sure i approve of this species mixing but go ahead, you can show it. what are you doing? >> greg: this is a rescued sloth

cuddling a beagle friend. this goes on for hours and hours. >> brian: sharp claws. >> greg: those are incredible claws. we don't know what happens after this video ends but it's very, very bloody. it's adorable. nothing better than a grateful sloth and i will stop there. >> martha: obviously talking before about the gang crisis in dhun trip. talking with somebody trying to change that a special air tomorrow on the story. here is a little bit of what he said and how he deals with these young individuals. >> i pulled one of the kids to the side. my whole goal was to look them dead in the face and say look do you want out of the gang? it's time, come here. i give them a hug. and i embrace them and show them real love. >> martha: real love and he is doing amazing work. watch tomorrow. >> dagen: brian, you have 5 second. >> brian: let's go to scotland. it's pretty amazing. 15 sets of twins in one town. it's the emberly school.

first and seventh grade 100 pairs of twins in the region. 19 were in the 2015 class. no one really knows why this happened but there is doubles of everyone. >> dagen: that's cute. sorry we cut you off, austin. >> bret: something in the water with the twins. good evening, welcome to washington. i'm bret baier. breaking tonight, a drastic and desperate deterioration of the situation in afghanistan. 7,189 days after u.s. and afghanistan forces took back control of the southern city of kandahar from the taliban, taliban fighters have now taken control again of the second largest city in the country. according to authorities on the ground. and today, 19 years 8 months and 6 days later, afghan officials and u.s. military leaders are concerned the