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>> the footage out of haiti after a 7.2 earthquake hit just off the coast. today's quake could be worse than the tremors that leveled the capital port-au-prince in 2010. welcome to fox news, i'm jacqui heinrich. griff: they're warning there could be casualties. it great to be with you, unfortunately with this bad news, jacqui. i remember as the first reporter in haiti in 2010 for fox news, the absolutely
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stunning, surreal images of building after building after building just pancaked and the number of casualties, tens of thousands and you really got a sense for a damage that the quake like this did in 2010, it was a 7.0, and now this, a 7.2. already, i have reached out to some contacts that i have in the capital, port-au-prince. they say it doesn't appear it was damaged excessively. greta van susteren was a reporter in the wake of 2010, set up a children's home there and i texted her immediately, is the home okay? she says that things are doing well, but obviously, to the west, 125 kilometers west as you can see on our map, a different story. >> we're hoping that there's no sort of repercussions here with the tsunami or anything of that sort. ryan has everything we need so far. can you bring us up to speed? >> yeah, absolutely. haiti a country that can't
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catch a break. this quake had a magnitude of 7.2, it occurred five miles off the haitian coastline, about 90 miles from the capital of haiti. obviously, two big concerns when you have a quake like this, you mentioned tsunami. that's a big one. no major signs of a tsunami just yet. the u.s. did put out a tsunami warning, so that's something we're clearing going to be watching. the other concern, of course, would be the damage on the ground and we understand from anecdotal evidence thus far and video that we're seeing that there does appear to be not insignificant damage there. of course, the big concern, and what everyone is doing right now, is comparing this quake to the devastating quake that haiti had, you you were just talking about 11 years ago. that earthquake left tens, if not hundreds of thousands of people dead and tens of thousands of people homeless. one of the reasons why people in the capital of haiti immediately, when this quick erupted, started running out of
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their homes, obviously their big concern is that those homes could collapse. extraordinary year for haiti. this is-- we don't know how this quake just yet measures up to that quake 11 years ago, but this is already the second major hardship that the country has faced. in just two months, you think back to july 9th, the day that the then president of haiti was assassinated. the country quite literally has been engulfed in violence since then and it wasn't in particularly good shape before that assassination took place with lots of gang violence and other problems, in part because of covid. this is the situation you're going to be watching very carefully and closely over the next couple of hours and as we have more information, we will, of course, be bringing it immediately to you. jacqui: all right, ryan, thank you for that update. griff. griff: jacqui, an upcoming tropical storm could complicate efforts. meteorologist adam klotz has more. hi, adam. >> hey, griff, yeah, as you've
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said we've been tracking storms across the caribbean here the last several days. it could impact cleanup there, certainly, before too much longer. again, this is where we saw that earthquake here on our maps. because of the way these islands are protected and we did briefly see a tsunami warning, but that was quickly because that would protect where the waves would eventually work across the caribbean. as i said, there are a couple of tropical storms we're tracking. first one fred and that moved over haiti 24 hours ago, so at this point no rain from this system back on them. i'll show you briefly where this storm is going and what may impact haiti in the future. this is where the rain bands are currently, moving off south florida. not seeing a whole lot of impact from fred. this is currently forecast to run up into the gulf of mexico. now not likely making a landfall towards panama city, perhaps fort walton beach or
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apalachicola, certainly not until monday. this slowed down in a really big way, but it's not the only storm we're paying attention to. this is the one that the folks in the caribbean have to be concerned about as you see over the next couple of days, it's running over the islands as a tropical storm, winds, 30, 40 miles per hour, could be a rain maker, also, so this is the next one to pay attention to. likely a bigger storm than fred. these are tropical and they take it haiti, over the dominican republic and it seems within the next couple of days they're going to have another big weather event to be paying attention to. griff. griff: a tropical storm is not what haiti needs right now. adam klotz, thanks. >> right. jacqui: griff, a second group of marines has arrived now in afghanistan as they prepare to evacuate americans from the country. this comes amid fears that the taliban could soon close in on kabul. we've got team coverage and a
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fast-moving situation. lucas tomlinson is tracking the military strategy and kevin corke is following the bride administration's biden administration's response. >> and the president has briefed the national security team to basically effect a drawdown of civilians in afghanistan. those briefings today as the president continues to spend the weekend in camp david. and the white house press secretary jen psaki didn't make a statement today, but yesterday did say that the president is focused on how to execute an orderly drawdown and protect our men and women serving in afghanistan. you heard him earlier this week. he does not regret his decision. faced with the prospect of a fall of saigon reduct, the white house so far has been mum about the ongoing drama unfolding in afghanistan, though the president said this back in july about a possible taliban overthrow of the
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country. >> there's going to be no circumstance where you'll see people being lifted off the roof of an embassy of the united states from afghanistan. it is not at all comparable. the likelihood there's going to be the taliban overrunning everything and owning the whole country is highly unlikely. >> and yet, here we are with very large swaths of the country effectively under taliban control already, and that is with the threat of extending that takeover to kabul. >> it is all on president biden's shoulders. this rapid and haphazard withdrawal of american troops, of course, before we know that our embassy would be safe, before we had our afghan interpreters and other friends out of afghanistan, to allow it to fall like this without any sort of plan or recourse, it is shameful. >> senator joni ernst of the
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great state of iowa speaking there and we've learned that the president, jacqui, will remain at camp david at least until wednesday and as you can imagine, the briefings on what's happening in afghanistan will be ongoing, i should say up through that date. back to you. >> kevin corke at the white house, thank you, griff. griff: even as the biden administration sticks to its plans to withdraw from afghanistan by august 31st, some 3,000 u.s. forces are launching a temporary mission to help evacuate americans. lucas tomlinson has more on the pentagon's role. hi, lucas. >> hi, a second wave of u.s. marines arrived at kabul's airport. there are reports that they're hitting the taliban outside of the capital over fears it could fall any day now. >> clearly from their actions it appears as if they're trying to get kabul isolated. >> you're looking at a marine corps helicopter right now. the u.s. military is preparing for a full evacuation and closure of the embassy in kabul
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if ordered by the state department. sensitive documents now being destroyed at the compound that cost over $700 million to build. in a speech to its nation, asraf ghani. and the u.s. spent over $85 billion on the afghan army in the past 20 years and the officials say it's now crumbled. 3000 u.s. troops are placed in kabul by the end of the weekend to evacuate thousands of americans. months ago the u.s. had 2500 troops on the ground in afghanistan and now roughly the same number headed back because of the deteriorating situation. the pentagon refused to call this a combat mission. >> the soldiers and marines fully kited out and putting on night vision goggles, taking positions at the airport. they're going to a combat zone, are they not? >> they're certainly going into harm's way, lucas. lucas, they will have the right of self-defense.
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they will be armed. >> mitch mcconnell, because them to ramp up. and some want them to pull out and level the embassy which looks more likely with the mission on the 31st. >> griff, joining us now is former diplomate on middle east affairs that served under president george h.w. bush, clinton and obama, dennis, thank you for joining us. >> sure. good to be with you. jacqui: i think what's most stunning to a lot of people watching this is how swiftly the taliban seized control of the huge swaths of the country and provincial capitals have been falling. and you look on the map. the biden administration maintain that the afghan forces have the advantage and we've invested and trained for 20 years. but it looks like that may have been for nothing and the u.s.
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lost this war. so, i ask you, did we? >> well, it's hard to say it was a success. look, we've been there 20 years, we've spent close to $100 billion in terms of investing in the afghan military. they've quickly crumbled. there's no question about that. the biden administration inherited from the trump administration an agreement to pull out by may of this year, and the biden administration made the decision not to pull out at all. clearly the taliban would have focused their guns on us. we're facing a reality where we've been there 20 years, we could have stayed longer, but it's pretty clear no matter how long we stayed, no how much we invested in the afghan military, pretty clear they were going to crumble. so, i think the questions that can be raised have less to do with us getting out and probably more to do with could we not have created a better implementation plan for our withdrawal. jacqui: the u.s. embassy in kabul is a major intelligence
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center or was a major intelligence center and yesterday we confirmed at fox news they were destroying sensitive documents and equipment. what does it tell you? are we planning for kabul to fall? >> i think we are planning. we certainly have an expectation that we're going to see the taliban at some point take over kabul. now, will it be in the next month? will it be longer than that? i think if you look at what's happened, how rapidly things have collapsed, the defense against the taliban has collapsed, how quickly the taliban has been able to execute a plan, i think you'd have to assume the worst at this point and assume that kabul will fall sooner rather than later. jacqui: now, you alluded to it before. we can't ignore the trump administration set the stage for this and you pointed out it was a withdrawal agreement and not a peace agreement and if president biden chose to remain, you think we would have seen a worse outcome. can you explain that? >> i don't know if we would have seen a worse outcome, but
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a costly outcome. what we would have seen is this, president trump had committed us to withdrawing by may 1st. what president biden did, i had is a we're not going to get out by may 1st, but by the end of the august. if he said we're not going to get out and keep our forces there, the taliban would have begun to attacking us, so we would be losing american forces right now in a war that clearly was one that wassing go to go on forever. was not going to end so long as we were there. we could prevent the taliban from taking over, but we would pretty much have to stay there forever. you have to weigh costs. the biden administration made the decision that we shouldn't stay there forever. if 20 years was enough, if 20 years wasn't enough to get the afghan military to be able to fight on their own, 22 or 24 years wouldn't be enough either and to weigh it against what's happening right now the implication for afghanistan and those who supported us, women's
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rights and the like and implications of the u.s. being forced out and implications it will have for the perception of the united states in the rest of the region. jacqui: real quick. we're running out of time. president biden left for camp david without questions for reporters. and put out an instagram post showing the president working with advisors on the drawdown. is that enough? does the country need to hear from the president right now? >> well, i think at some point the president's going to have to explain further what we did, why we did it. he announced in making the decision on withdrawal that we couldn't stay there forever and that at some point, afghanistan had to be able to stand on its own two feet. now, i think he can still make that point, but i think he's also going to have to make the point about how we got out and what are the implications for our position in the region and internationally as a result. jacqui: all right. we'll have to leave it there. dennis ross former envoy to the middle east. thank you for joining us. griff. >> my pleasure. griff: jacqui, new details after secretary mayorkas sends
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>> department of homeland security issuing a new terrorism threat warning, the warning comes less than a month before the nation marks 20 years since the september 11th terror attacks on new york and
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washington. david spunt is live at the justice department with the details. . >> hi, griff, this is the bulletin, it's a two-page bulletin put out by the homeland security alejandro mayorkas. it's coming up the 20th anniversary of the attacks september 11th on u.s. soil. and he wants to make sure that the people in the united states are vigilant. he issued the bulletin and mentioned religious holidays in and around september 11th that he calls a catalyst for violence. and that domestic terrorists may be by the international terrorists onand impacts global pandemic, grievances over public health safety measures and perceived government restrictions and the bulletin measures healthy safety measures and restrictions and
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the biden administration's push to get as many people vaccinated as possible. also some of the mask mandates popping up in parts of the country as the delta variant continues to become a serious problem across all 50 states. >> it's deeply concerning and i'm hopeful that we'll be able to receive a classified briefing sometime soon for the protection and safety and well-being of the american people, it has to be a foremost priority for all of us. when you look at online rhetoric, and you look at chatter that's happening, and you look at, you know, maybe 100 people post in comments saying bring out the gallows, even if two of those out of the 100 are serious, that needs to violence. >> this bulletin is expected to go through november 11th. it's very specific, i'm looking at it, at 2 p.m. eastern time, i'm told that the conditions could always change and the terror threat may change and it could be extended or other
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bulletin. >> david spunt. jacqui? >> live pictures coming from our southern border where the summer surge shows no signs of slowing. according to the latest numbers, migrant apprehensions hit a 20-here high. jonathan hunt is live from la joya. >> those were stunning and no signs of anything slowing down, and as we get through august. the migrants simply keep coming. all through the day yesterday and this morning, we have seen more crossing the rio grande which is about a mile from our live position here coming up to the initial processing centers set up by border patrol. and of course, when a homeland security expected alejandro mayorkas was here this week, he spoke to some of the border patrol agents.
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in leaked audio obtained by fox news, he used candid language no one previously in the biden administration has done. listen here to secretary mayorkas. >> the first line of defense or we're going to-- this is unsustainable. we can't continue like this, our people in the field can't continue and our system isn't built for it. >> now, the busiest time for the migrants crossing the rye r-rio grande and entering into the united states is obviously nighttime. it's a lot cooler than the 108 degree temperatures we get here during the day. our cameraman, lorenzo garcia, was out last night as probably a couple hundred came across in this one point in la joya, texas where we are and lorenzo talked to the migrants about the journey they've undertaken and why they do it. listen here. >> the toughest part of the trip is travelling to mexico. the assaults, having to deal with the cartels, dehydration,
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the kids getting sick. >> her hope is to find work to help herself and her daughter out and give her a better life. both of them a better life. >> looking for a better life. of course. and if you take a look at live pictures from our drone team they right now are over the bridge on the border. that's about 15 miles from where we're standing east along the rio grande and that's one of the points where border patrol agents are taking some of these migrants who come up here from the rio grande, trying to give them shade as they go through the initial processing. there were several thousand there just about 10 days or so, now it's dwindled, but they're still being taken there by the dozens just to try to get some shade in these blazing temperatures. as secretary mayorkas said in that candid moment and as pretty much every border patrol agent we have spoken to here
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has confirmed, jacqui, they view this as quote, unsustainable. jacqui: jonathan hunt at the border for us, thank you. griff. griff: we have now fox news polling on this showing that only 35% of americans approve of president biden's handling of immigration. for more on the situation at our southern border, let's bring in former acting homeland security secretary chad wolf. mr. secretary, thank you for taking time with the developments with secretary mayorkas who has a job you once held, saying one thing behind closed doors in terms of admitting the crisis. what do you make of it? >> i would say the comments are really astonishing and what it shows he says one thing to the american people and to congress and something separately behind closed doors to his law enforcement officials. i think that's certainly not the right way to communicate. you need to be upfront with the american people in describing
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crisis going on there and how it's impacting and what the system can take and what it cannot take. it's certainly unsustainable. we've been saying that for seven months. we knew that, we've briefed the biden administration coming in and going to explode if they took down certain policies. this was all avoidable, but they did certain political things. griff: chad and you mentioned that you briefed the administration and warned them of problems and they recently as this week blamed what they inherited that you gave them. >> again, it's quite remarkable some of their comments they will say. they've blamed everyone. they've blamed the trump administration, hurricanes that took place in the northern triangle countries over five years ago.
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they've blamed everyone but, but themselves and the steps they've taken. we gave nem a secure border and a play book, a menu of options for the behavior we now seen has exexploded at the border. like the remain in mexico program, a court now ordered them in come respects to reinstate because it works, and the court recognized that they took that away without any rational thought, simply for political reasons. so i think that the biden administration and dhs have a lot to answer for. as far as the surge that we're seeing down there on the border and along with that, the covid positivity rates that we see along that border, i think there needs to be an investigation into what they knew, when they knew it and how this unfolded over the last seven months. well, you put your finger on something there, chad. let's talk about how unprecedented. we've never seen anything like this. the number of apprehensions in
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july doesn't tell the full story, if you look there almost 19,000 unaccompanied children. almost 83,000 are family units. the only thing close to compare it to march of 2000, 22,000, many of those were single mexican adults coming for a job and add to it covid. how significant is and unique is this crisis? >> well, it's very significant. it's the largest and most serious crisis i think the country has ever experienced. there are similar numbers that you can point to going all the way back to 2000, as you have. but what makes this crisis infinitely more difficult are the number of families and minors that we are seeing today. which makes it that much more difficult to remove those individuals. you can do it, we showed that you could do it on the trump administration and the biden administration choosing not to implement some of the policies. in 2000 it was largely single adults and today we're seeing,
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you know, hundreds of thousands of family units and minors which makes this crisis that much more difficult to address. >> mr. secretary, i want to ask you just in the last 30 seconds or so, that we have about the new dhs warning put out before, as we approach the 9/11, 20-year anniversary, but it also, even, brings up people that may not want to get vaccinated or wear a mask, they say, as perceived government restrictions. what is your reaction to this warning? well, i think that dhs is overutilizing the bulletin. i think they've issued three of them in a three-month period and warn about the anniversary of 9/11. i think that people are always very mindful about that and mindful about a certain attacks that could occur around that anniversary, once you start talking about covid measures and other things in that bulletin, i believe it waters it down. people are not going to pay attention to it as they should
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if you continue to issue these every couple of months. so, i think it's right to talk about the anniversary of 9/11 and be on guard with that and other measures, i personally probably would not have included those in that homeland security bulletin. >> former acting dhs secretary, chad wolfe, thank you very much, sir. jacqui: griff, the mask mandates in schools has parents looking for answers. we'll talk to parents in florida with two different views about what to do next. one, two! one, two, three! only pay for what you need! with customized car insurance from liberty mutual! nothing rhymes with liberty mutual. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ age is just a number. and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health. versus 16 grams in ensure high protein. boost® high protein also has key nutrients
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breaking story, as sadly, these pictures and videos come in, jacqui. of the devastation that it causes and i first saw years ago, buildings collapsed and hotel montana almost everyone indoors died. jacqui: this country cannot catch a break. after having their president assassinated and now an earthquake and a tsunami warning, let's hope things that things get back to normal soon here. griff: there will be relief there and try to bring in things. and we'll try to talk with reverend franklin graham, and he'll try to get a plane with water and shelters. jacqui: front and center now about masking. the question whether to mandate masks in schools. many parents don't want the requirement of wearing masks in the classroom. others worry about community infection rates. robin and john mccarthy of
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parents of an immunocompromised child also too young to receive the vaccine. thank you both for joining us today. >> thank you. jacqui: you guys say that mask mandates are necessary because leaving this as an option just won't work. why? >> it won't work because our son has asthma and according to the centers for disease control, as well as his pediatrician, they've said if one or two unmasked kids come into the classroom, it will spread like wildfire and that puts our child's life at risk and potentially fatal. allowing opt out would-- we've watched the school districts and seen how it panned out on day two 240 kids were pretty much quarantined and day four, 4,700. and opt out doesn't work and for other children's lives could be fatal.
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our child cannot come to school in person if even one child is unmasked because his life is in danger. >> and that's the thing, if you give one child, some of the children, they don't even know they have it and they come into the class and other kids are wearing a mask and they have this infection, and it gets in the air, before you know it, the whole class has it. >> and i mean, one article i read this morning they had like i think 400 children quarantined in palm beach county. jacqui: so from your perspective, you see optional masks as too much of a risk for your son. the only other choice is to keep him out of school or find another school. why is it a greater burden for your position than the concerns on the other side of this, government overreach or a precedence that that sets? >> even in miami-dade county. we think that miami-dade county they've decided because again, there are so many infections, you look in the united states most of the cases are in the
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state of florida and most of the cases there are in here in miami-dade county. if you get one child that comes in without a mask, and they have the infection, it infects the whole class. and then after that, it goes and it can get to the teachers, you saw what happened in broward county. and then the whole area starts having infection. >> it's a legal issue, americans disability act, a federal law. so why isn't our child in a protected class childrens with disability. the federal government needs to protect our child so that is the issue. unmasked children versus masked children. children with disabilities, their rights are protected. jacqui: and robin, you're getting to our next question. you're suing to stop the governor's order to prohibit masks order. do you think the law is on your side? >> we've never made a lawsuit.
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we don't know. we have the attorney saying that we have a pretty solid days. and we know the governor his power outreach of his power. when you have a pandemic and a public safety risk, i think that that takes precedent over that, so, i do believe that we do have strong arguments, but i can never say 100% what's going to happen. it depends. jacqui: real quick yes or no, if a time comes when your child can get vaccinated, would you support optional masks at that time? >> if my son can get vaccinated. that's the whole goal. like, i don't know if you noticed, but one of my nephews, 12, he's vaccinated and fine with it. my other nephew caught this and in the hospital two weeks and he almost died and my sister, she was in a bad way she couldn't see-- imagine a child in the hospital, the children's hospital and not being around their mom and dad.
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it's difficult. >> i think the answer is we don't know. >> the experts, it would depend if the numbers went down and pressing issue. jacqui: we're out of time, i'm sorry, guys. i appreciate you coming on to discuss this. we have to leave it there. we've run out of time. thank you both so much. robin and john mccarthy for joining us. >> thank you. jacqui: the governors of texas and florida are facing backlashes for backing an official mask mandate. and some have mask mandates anyway. and melissa moved to florida to have a mask-free school year and thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me, jacqui, i appreciate it. jacqui: explain to us why you went to the trouble of moving your entire family to another state to avoid mask mandates? >> yeah, absolutely. so i'm from connecticut and in connecticut those kids will certainly be masked again this fall. i have a daughter who
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attendance the university of tampa and we've always loved florida. i felt that the governor was, you know, doing everything right here in florida, allowing choices to be made. so we moved down about a month ago. we bought in october and now, of course, the university of tampa is actually doing a mask mandate so i'm rounding up parents to fight that right now. at this point we should all have a choice. and i appreciate that family's stance. i want them to know that my son is also immunocompromised and also has asthma. if i thought for one second he shouldn't go to school because he could test covid and die, i personally wouldn't send my child to school. that's a huge risk. if they're worried about their son's life, i think that maybe the best choice for them would be to home school him. i'm not trying to sound, you
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know, sound cold, but if you're truly concerned and your child is seriously immunocompromised, you keep them home where you know what's coming in and what's going out. you don't take the chance of sending them to school with germy kids. jacqui: your sons have a difference in age there. >> they do. jacqui: despite having, sharing a condition. and obviously, the vaccine plays into that. their son is too young to get the vaccine. your son, i assume, is old enough, a senior in high school, to get it. is your family vaccinated? >> so the vaccine issue is another thing. i mean, we should all have that choice. my son cannot get the vaccine. he is that immunocompromised so it's not something that he can get. my family, you know, always lives by choice. medical decisions are made with our doctors and with our best
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interests at heart always. so, we decide whether or not, you know, we're going to take a risky medical procedure, one that's killed already thousands of people and quite frankly, if it were any other drug, might have been recalled at this point. so, you know, this is all dangerous territory where we're mandating medical procedures with a one size fits all. jacqui: okay. >> choice is the best way. jacqui: i want to touch on something you said bah us you mentioned that you've heard from the parents before you and while you appreciate where they come from you're squarely on the other side of this issue. >> yes. jacqui: what do you say to people in their camp though that it puts their kids' health at risk if vaccines are not a choice that everyone makes for one reason or another, and your family in that camp. and people are fighting requirements like you, that requirement being the only thing between their child and a
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pandemic, and their education, a mask. is the mask requirement more harmful than the virus? >> that's a great question and in my opinion, for children, 100%, that mask is way more dangerous. we are seeing suicide rates in this country go through the roof. we have more children with anxiety and deep depression issues than we ever had. jacqui: okay. >> so, yes, i think the mask is worse. jacqui: okay. >> for smaller kids, they drop these masks on the bathroom floor and put them back on their face. jacqui: melissa, we have to leave it there. i'm sorry to cut you off. appreciate the conversation and thank you for joining usments my pleasure, thanks for having me, jacqui. take care. jacqui: for information where to get your covid vaccine. visit vaccines.gov. there's no cost to be vaccinated against covid-19. jacqui: florida bracing for heavy wind and rain as tropical depression fred heads for the sunshine state.
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>> tropical storm fred is soaking the keys and forecasters are worried about another storm, grace off puerto rico. live from marathon, florida. phil keating has the details for us. hey, phil, it looks windy where you are. >> yeah, the winds have picked up significantly after what has been a pretty mild and mostly sunny day down here in the middle keys. in the last hour, a heavy rain storm associated with this degenerated storm known as fred right through the key west and upper key area and miami-dade county dumping a lot of rain. and that's how it's supposed to be in south florida all day today and tomorrow. and fred is now just a tropical wave, but it is still expect today restrengthen at some point. either back to a depression or finally back to tropical storm status. vane where from three to seven inches of rain are expected and
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so all of south florida is under a warning. down here it's a good day to play with the wind and the tropical system has been a surprise, failing to regain tropical storm status longer than anticipated and now it's not even a depression anymore. the center is 125 miles southwest of key west and current maximum wind speeds 35 miles per hour. now it looks like it will end up making landfall monday at some point up in the florida panhandle and look at the other system following almost directly in fred's footsteps. that's tropical storm grace. 40 mile per hour winds and that one could become a hurricane next week, threatening florida as well as haiti of course, the reconstruction efforts after this morning's 7.2 earthquake, you know, they're just getting underway down there and the death toll is expected to be in the hundreds. the tropical storm warning for the keys right now is only the lower keys, the lower half where we are to key west and the tortugas.
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>> welcome back. the tunnel to towers foundation is honoring the heroes we've lost in the 20 years since the worst terror attack on the u.s. 9/11. joining me now, the ceo of tunnels to towers, started on august 1st, walking over 500 miles. the never forget walk. frank, where are you now and how many miles did you walk? >> well, i'm in cumberland maryland, we had a great parade today and so many americans were out there waving american flags and inspiring me to go on to make sure we never forget what happened 20 years ago. i've walked about 190 miles. i started to the pentagon,
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shanksville will have a ceremony right there i'll put a wreath and say a prayer with other 9/11 families, and then i'm going to be headed back towards new york so on september 11th i'll be-- (inaudible) >> we're just losing your shot there, just a little bit, frank. we'll see if it's working out. frank, obviously walking the 500 miles. his brother, steven siller, gave his life on 9/11 rescuing others. it is a good cause and a good reason in the wake of this 20th anniversary to remember those heroes. you can see the website here, the letter t, number 2, t2t.org/donate. and frank saying there are about 70 firemen cooking for him. and we've got you back. quickly, why are you doing
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>> a 7.2 magnitude earthquake rattles through haiti, several deaths and i more mouse damage. i'm jacqui heinrich. griff: and i'm griff jenkins. president biden has been briefed on situation, usaid with samantha power as leader on the american response to this disaster. meanwhile, ryan chilcote has the latest for us. hi, ryan. >> reporter: hi, griff. yeah, haiti, a country that a just can't catch a break this year in general. you look at this earthquake, it struck just several hours ago, magnitude 7.2, at a depth of about 6 miles, so 10,000 meters out in caribbean about 5 miles off of the haitian coast and 90 miles from the capital. just getting news in, of course,
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the two real big concerns are, first, the possibility of a tsunami after the quake. the did issue a sue name warning immediately following the quake but has subsequently lifted that. that's good news. locals also saying that water did flood one coastal town but then retreated. that's another good sign. the second fear, of course, is that the damage that the quake can do on the island itself. it was felt in the capital 90 miles away and, in fact, many people there ran outdoors out of concern that buildings they were in might collapse. hard facts still hard to come by, but anecdotal evidence says several casualties and video suggests there is significant damage. now, everyone is already comparing this earthquake to that devastating quake that hit haiti 11 years ago. that earthquake killed tens if not hundreds of thousands of people and left tens of thousands more homeless. so far, and still early, this does not appear to be nearly as
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lethal as that, but we are just gathering information. and as you were saying, president biden is aware of this, and he is, he has initiated an immediate response, appointing samantha power as the coordinator. of course, as you were saying there, she's the head of usaid, that's the united states international development agency and gives you a sense of how the united states already understands there's going to be a very big rebuilding process necessary in haiti. griff? griff: ryan, thank you very much. appreciate it. we'll keep -- can keep us posted on the latest. meanwhile, someone who is already claiming to respond, joining us now on the phone, someone who has been there on several missions to help the haitian people after devastating events including the 2010 earthquake, the president of samaritans purse, reverend franklin graham. reverend, thank you for taking time. i remember very vividly being there with you and greta van susteren 11 years ago, but now
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this. haiti can't catch a break, sir. >> they can't, griff. it's very sad. the samaritans purse, we are responding tomorrow. we'll take our dc-8 cargo jet filled with tarps and water purification systems, and we'll have medical kits. these are the three areas we want to respond in, and that's shelter, water and medicine. and that's what, that'll be our initial response, and then as we develop the program this week, i'm sure we'll be adding other components to it. but the need there is tremendous, and these people are so poor. griff, you've seen it for yourself. and these homes are are not well built homes. and so whatever we can provide will make a big difference. and, of course, as a christian, we go in jesus' name. i want people to know that god loves them, and sometimes in a
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crisis like this people think maybe god is judging us. and i want them to know that god loves them, and he hasn't turned his back on them. griff: reverend, speak, if you will -- we're looking at footage of you in 2010 along with greta's husband john and former governor sarah palin, but you come in and set up both is the shelter and water purification. talk, if you will, about the immediate need and the situation that they're likely facing now just west of the capital in port-au-prince. >> the number one thing is water. they have to have water to survive. and that's why the water purification -- we can take care of about 5,000 people a day with the two units that we're taking down there. and we can take more if needed in the next few days. but that's 5,000 people a day we can provide fresh drinking water. it uses reverse osmosis, so we
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with just take the water right out of the ocean, and we give them fresh drinking water. shelter, having a piece of plastic or some type of structure to keep you out of the sun or the rain, how important that is for your family. you've seen it for yourself, griff. and so those are the two immediate -- and, of course, medical. lots of times in an earthquake like this you have a lot of fractures, legs, arms that are crushed, and those will need immediate attention. that's what we're focusing on, and we just pray that god will give us the right team members to help relieve the suffering there in haiti. we're leaving tomorrow, and we'll keep you informed of how it goes. griff: rev recommend, i reached out to -- reverend, i reached out to my friend greta because she established a great that home in port-au-prince, she says
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all is well there. what are you hearing from reports on the ground? >> yes. we have got, we've talked to the director of greta home this morning. she said that the building shook and swayed like crazy, but nothing fell in. all the kids are safe. we built, of course, that greta home to withstand a large earthquake, and that is located in leonon which is about halfway between port-au-prince and where this earthquake just happened. so all is well. but on the ground from our people, our staff that are there, it's just, you know, it's just devastating. people are in shock, people are afraid. and that's why we have to respond quickly are. and, of course, haiti is, doesn't have really a government that's functioning, and it just makes it even more complicated, us trying to get in there and respond. griff: it sure does, indeed. reverend franklin graham, my best to you and your crew. if you'd like to follow and help out, you can see
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samaritan'spurse.org, glad to know that some are okay, but we expect many casualties. reverend franklin graham, thank you for your time. >> thank you, griff. griff: jackie? jacqui: meteorologist adam klotz has more on the potential impact of tropical storm fred. adam: right now that area or sitting right in between a couple of tropical storms. so far as far as the earthquake goes, this graphic would show any aftershocks that happen ever wards, no aftershocks as of right now, but those could happen after a major earthquake. the other concern at least briefly was a tsunami. there was an advisory, but that has now been dropped, so no concern there for right now also, but those tropical storms continue to spin, and that's something we have to pay attention to. fred went over the island a couple of days ago.
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it's falling apart just north of of cuba. this is something we pay attention to in the united states. not a massive storm, likely running up the gulf coast here as you get into monday bringing at least moderately heavy rain. there's probably going to be some areas getting 6-8 inches. but i do want to show you what's next for haiti, probably on monday and tuesday. we've got tropical storm grace. it's out in the atlantic, it's working in that direction. so in a couple of days there's going to be a tropical storm over haiti, and that's something those folks are going to have to deal with. jacqui: adam klotz, thank you so much. griff? griff: it's a busy, busy news day with rapid developments in afghanistan. we've got team coverage as the taliban advance towards kabul, reports saying they've gained control of the northern city of ma czar i sharif. lucas tomlinson is tracking the military strategy and kevin corke is at the white house. >> reporter: we've learned
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within this very hour that earlier this morning the president and the vice president took part in a video conference along with other senior members of the national security team including the secretaries of state and defense as well as the national security adviser as well. they are being briefed about the ongoing efforts on the effort to draw down our civilian footprint in afghanistan. as i mentioned, they were joined by a number of high-level administration officials including the chairman of the joint chiefs. still, there are new questions this afternoon about how the major u.s. intel agencies seemingly failed to see the quick unraveling playing out in afghanistan. and if they did see it, why the white house seemingly ignored their warnings. so as the taliban seizes more is and more land in -- more and more land in that country, including wresting control of the nation's third and second largest cities, some of that country's leaders are blaming the u.s. for failing to properly train afghan fighters to fend off taliban advances.
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>> look, there are many reasons. there is not only one reason. and i think it's also not the reason, it would be extremely unfair to say we didn't fight. it's going to be extremely unfair dot.com rads of those veterans -- dot.com rads that we did not do the right type of training. >> reporter: multiple reasons, she says, for why the taliban seems to be advancing so quickly. meanwhile, for other critics it's not so much the president's decision to leave afghanistan that's necessarily problematic. rather, it's the way the u.s. is leaving the country that's cause for great concern. >> what has happened here is the president has made some serious miscalculations where he hasn't fully appreciated the consequences of his decision in april when he announced the withdrawal. what we're seeing is an ill-conceived, hasty withdrawal that's turned into an embarrassing treat.
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>> reporter: general jack keane speaking there. as you can well imagine, on the weekend things change pretty quickly around here at the white house. even with the president up at camp david, he will be there until wednesday, griff, and, of course, he'll be briefed every day on what's happening on the ground in afghanistan. griff: kevin corke on the north lawn, thank you. jacqui: a second group of u.s. marines has arrived in kabul to help evacuate americans from afghanistan. lucas tomlinson joins us now with the latest on what the u.s. military is doing and, lucas, what are you hearing now? >> reporter: that's right. a second wave of marines arrived under full combat load. u.s. gents are striking the taliban outside the capital city which could fall any day now. you're looking at live pictures of the c-46 helicopter, u.s. military preparing for a full evacuation and closure of the embassy in kabul. sensitive documents now being destroyed at the embassy that cost over $700 million to build.
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in a speech to the nation, afghan president ashraf ghaani vowed not to give up what he call the nation's largest achievements in the past 20 years. the taliban have now seized over half the provincial capitals. the u.s. spent over $80 billion on the afghan army that has now crumbled. months ago the u.s. had 2500 troops on the ground in afghanistan, now roughly the same number rushing back because of the deteriorating security situation. the pentagon insists the military mission will end on august 31st, the u.s. embassy could also be closed by then. ambassador dennis if ross says this was a no-win situation for the white house. >> the biden administration made the decision that we shouldn't stay there forever, 20 years was enough, and 20 years wasn't enough to get the afghan military to be able to fight on their own, 22 or 24 years would
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not be enough either. >> reporter: i've received numerous messages from anxious afghans desperate to be evacuated as their country gets closer and closer to falling to the taliban as the taliban move on kabul. jacqui: lucas tomlinson, thank you for that. so we've got more on the situation in afghanistan coming up shortly. we're going to be speaking with retired u.s. army major and afghanistan veteran congressman from tennessee mark green. that is coming up. ♪♪ griff: floridians are keeping an eye on tropical storm fred and bracing for rain, this comes as the state also grappling with rising covid cases and a debate over some pandemic protocols. joining me now to discuss it, francis suarez, mayor of miami. mr. mayor, thank you for taking time. i want to get to the tropical depression fred, but first let's talk about the situation with covid cases.
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you're somewhere just shy of a positivity rate of 19% how are things going there? who is most impacted? >> well, many people are being impacted. we've, unfortunately, had records over the last few days. we've had a couple of highs for florida. i'm actually in a to covid hospital right now visiting a 40-year-old who's in icu, so it's impacting people that are my age, it's impacting children because more children are hospitalized than before, significantly more. and so, you know, this is a difficult time where we're now have to make sure that we're doing everything that we can and getting vaccinated. you know, 99% of the people that are vaccinated are not experiencing serious complications, and 90% of the people that are hospitalized are not vaccinated. so it's clearly a pandemic of the unvaccinated. griff: and, mr. mayor, are you seeing the debate over whether to get vaccinated, those that are hesitant, and the mask
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mandates possibly coming back, are you seeing that really affect your ability as a local leader to try and get things under control? >> well, what we've done in the city is for our employees is you have to wear a mask unless you're with vaccinated. obviously, the preference would be for people to be vaccinated because we're seeing the statistics that show overwhelmingly that if you're vaccinated, you don't suffer serious complications, and most of the people that are hospitalized are not vaccinated. i think we're starting to see a pend lumbar spring where -- pendulum swing where people are seeing children and people my age being hospitalized, and i think that's changing their minds, and i'm glad it is. griff: do you believe that really this latest sort of rise in cases may convince those that perhaps have been reticent to embrace the protocols to maybe change their minuted? >> absolutely. like i said -- their mind? >> absolutely. i'm visiting a friend of mine
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who's 43 years old. he was unvaccinate if because he was trying to have a child, and as a result of him being in icu, my group of friends that were not vaccinated have become vaccinated. that's going the happen over and over, and hopefully he'll be fine, and hopefully more people will get vaccinated. griff: i could keep talking to you about to covid spike, but because we have you and this breaking news in haiti of this earthquake, having spent a lot of time in little haiti there, what are you hearing from your haitian community in miami as we get news of this earthquake? >> well, unfortunately, it's another devastating event that's happened in haiti. obviously; they're reeling after the assassination of their president. you know, the country is disorganized from a political perspective, and for them to have suffered an earthquake which could be even greater than the one in 2010 with massive aftershocks, you know, it's unclear exactly what the
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devastation is or will be, but the early reports are not good. and, obviously, people are extremely anxious here. griff: and as far as your haitian community goes there, are you going to have any sort of response to help them, perhaps to try and reach -- i know communication in situations like this becomes really very difficult. >> absolutely. i mean, we have, like you said, little haiti cultural center which was created in the city of miami, and it's probably one of the largest diaspora of haitian-americans are here in the united states. so we will be using that facility to connect with the haitian community and make sure that we're doing everything we can as a city to support them over there. griff: and lastly, mr. mayor, we're glad that a hurricane named fred is not hitting you, but you are going to get a lot of rain. what are you concerned about? >> we're usually prepared for hurricanes and for large hurricanes, so this, in a sense for us, being the first storm of
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the season is welch come news, that we're not going to -- welcome storm that we're not going to great get the brunt, and we're going prepared for it. griff: our thoughts and prayers for your friend and all of those in that hospital. thank you, mr. mayor. >> thank you. griff: all right. and new video from haiti coming up next. ♪♪ knows everyone's unique. that's why they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. oh, yeah. that's the spot. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ there's no other snack like a planters cashew. what else can go from your car's cup holder to a crystal bowl and seem equally at home? i guess the most well-rounded snack isn't round at all. it's more cashew-shaped. planters. a nut above. when subway® opened they changed the fast food game. but sometimes you gotta refresh ...to be fresh.
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griff: at least 29 are confirmed dead n haiti after an earthquake measuring 7.2 in magnitude rocked the caribbean nation, that's according to the haitian civil force. these new images show some of the devastation as the prime minister has posted on twitter enormous damage for a country that hasn't really recovered from the massive quake in 2010. and before that, one in 2008. we look here, we believe this area to be la cay, it is west of the capital of port-au-prince about 90 miles or so. but the buildings in haiti are not built like buildings in the u.s., they are very fragile. the building code's very difficult there. that's why the reverend franklin graham was talking about it. we hope that number does not
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rise. sadly, it may. jacqui: griff -- police are turning their backs on mayor lori light foot as the city struggles with a continuing wave of violence. joining us now is former police officer anthony napolitano. thank you so much for joining us. >> thanks for having me. jacqui: so i want to talk about officer ella french. he was shot and killed. -- she was shot and killed. the rank and file officers turned their back on the mayor when she showed up at the vigil. what has changed for you? >> well, that time when i stood with me brothers and sisters to support mayor lightfoot because the alternative was not even questionable who she was running against at the time. right now it's just my officers and city workers are looking around a saying we're not going to have a city that deals with crime and punishment the proper way, we back our police officers and make sure they're safe on the street, as a matter of mattl
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of our first responders, no one's going to want to work here and little by little, crime becomes common place. we've got motorcycles and quads riding all over the someones at wrigley field, the sidewalks, because there's no punishment. there's no law and order and no crime and punishment. jacqui: do you think people feel mayor lightfoot created the conditions by being sympathetic to the defund the police movement or somehow eroding respect for the profession? >> yeah, i think a lot of people blame the mayor right now, and i also blame the socialist faction in our city council who reeled her in as well. they made her feel like she wasn't going to champion their cause, they weren't going to be behind her when with it comes to the votes in the city counsel that she needed. and i blame her for falling for it as well. i'm one of those aldermen that i tell it way it is, and these socialists ruining our city, they're ruining our state and
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our country, and she should have known that from the beginning. jacqui: so you're saying, if i'm hearing you right, that she might not be, you know, anti-police funding herself but definitely bent to pressure from the progressive far left. >> absolutely. absolutely. the mayor has come out on record multiple times saying she didn't support the defund the police movement, but then when it came time to take away 635 positions from the police department in our last budget, she folded on that. and that was done in our department and in our city. and now we have another police accountability program that's defunding the police because it's paying for positions for civilians to once again have oversight on the police along with the 12 other oversight committees we have. you're forcing the police not to want to be the police anymore. jacqui: she unveiled the budget proposal on wednesday. it was surprisingly beefed up, quite the proposal from last year when she proposed cutting
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vacant positions. critics say she's only doing this because of the political climate shifting and now she's on the wrong side of it, and i think you were alluding to that before. do you agree with that assessment? >> yeah, i agree with that assessment. and you know what? when you beef up that budget, there's only a certain crowd you're going to hit, it's going to be the taxpayers. you can't beef that budget up when we have a 1.7 billion deficit, whatever it is right now, unless you're going to hit our taxpayers in the pocket again. i've not once voted for a taxpayer -- tax increase on our neighbors and our homeowners because we're not providing them with the proper services as well as the proper protection with our police on the city streets. so i see this coming as well. jacqui: mayor lightfoot, after officer ella french was shot and killed, she got an earful from the officer's father, and she responded to that saying in times of tragedy, tensions run high, but the mayor also said
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toxic and divisive reporting and rhetoric needs to stop. but her critics say that she has pulled some divisive stunts of her own. at one point she said she was limiting interviews to journalists who were not people of color, putting, basically, white journalists at the back of the line, and people gave her some heat for that saying that wasn't really her position to do that as an elected official. as she sate -- has she set an example leading up to now where she's saying that divisive reporting needs to end, has she set that example? >> no. you know, she's done what we call in the city of chicago talking out of both sides of your head. telling people exactly what they want to hear, and when you're in front of a different crowd, you tell them something different. she called me and one of my colleagues racist because we stood against the chicago ordinance where it allowed, or
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it took the rights away from the chicago police department to work with the federal government on behalf of the illegals that were here that had warrants and that were gang members. just because we split against that, she called us racist. i'm first generation son of an immigrant myself, and so is my colleague, maria lopez. so it's tell everybody what they want to hear and then hope it does well for you, and then when you go in front of another crowd, you change your stance. it's ridiculous. jacqui: we have to leave it there. a anthony napolitano, thanks so much for joinings us. >> thank you for having me. griff: haitian-americans are shocked and concerned after a devastating earthquake. we'll go live to a haitian community in new york next. ♪♪ for mac. who can come to a stop with barely a bobble. lucia. who announces her intentions even if no one's there. and sgt moore.
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jacqui: new video of the devastation in haiti after a 7.2-magnitude earthquake. haitian-americans are worrying about their relatives in their
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home country. officials with the haitian civil protection source confirms at least 29 dead. alex 40 kwan has the latest if -- hogan has the latest from the flat bush area of brooklyn with how people are reacting there. >> reporter: news really sending shock waves through haitian and caribbean communities just like this one, and some of the people that i've spokennen with this morning, they say that immediately when they heard the news, the first thing, of course, they did was call their family. >> yeah, called me did you hear what happened, and i was, like, what happened? there was an earthquake. >> reporter: the u.s. geological survey issuing a red alert for fatalities saying the disaster is likely widespread. here people are already speaking out against this tragedy saying, for example, from cost executive ed day responding saying the county is home to a vibrant haitian community and also adding i have just spoken with leaders in our local haitian
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community to pledge my support of the county government in any recovery effort. thethe 7.2 mall any tuesday was felt -- magnitude quake was felt 95 miles away, and to put that in perspective, that is about the same distance from new york city to philadelphia. the quake also triggered a tsunami threat in the caribbean which has since been called off. on top of all of this, haiti is in the path of tropical storm grace expected to reach land on monday. president joe biden has authorized an immediate response tapping administrator samantha power to lead this effort. now, haiti is still recovering from 2010 when a 7.1 magnitude earthquake killed hundreds of thousands of people, so people here in this community reaching out to their loved ones. hankfully, all the people i've spoken with, they say they're loved ones are accounted for,
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but they still don't know what the devastation look like. jacqui: alex hogan, thank you so much. griff? >> even a country that has personally known generations of conflict, afghanistan is in the throes of yet another chaotic and desperate chapter, an incredible tragedy for its long-suffering people. afghanistan is spinning out of control. griff: the u.n. secretary-general painting a grim picture of the scene unfolding in afghanistan as the taliban claims control over 60% of the country. we're joined now by a lawmaker who served on the ground in afghanistan, tennessee republican congressman and member of the house armed services committee mark green. congressman, thank you for joining us on this saturday. a lot of news coming out of afghanistan. things dwindling there at a rapid pace. first, your reaction, sir. >> well, it's heartbreaking, griff. i mean, i had friends who died
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in afghanistan, and to see it fall apart like this with the way that the president, president biden, has chosen to withdraw our forces, it's not about whether to withdraw or not, it's about how you withdraw. mike pompeo assured me that president trump was going to do a conditions-based withdrawal. this president has a basically just said everybody leave. and what happened at bagram, you know, we just left in the middle of the night, and it's created an abandonment feeling in the people in afghanistan. and the taliban now are basically routeing them. routing them. griff: congressman, earlier this week before we saw just how lightning fast the taliban would take control of the country, this is what pompeo said earlier on monday. listen. >> we spent 20 years building up the afghan national security forces, providing them training, weapons, all the skill sets that they need to defend their own country. it's their time. everyone knew this day would come, eventually the afghan security forces had to stand up to protect their own. griff: what is your to that now
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knowing what we've seen and what has not been standing up by the afghan national security forces? >> yeah, i think it goes back to the way the president, the current president, president biden, is withdrawing. you know, we didn't even tell the afghans we were leaving bagram air force base. they just walked in and said, oh, wait, the americans are gone. and that kind of disrespect clearly makes them think, oh, the americans don't have our back. and when you communicate that to them in this kind of fight with the taliban surprising us all which could potentially be an intelligence failure that we need to dig into, their capability to sin caronize attacks -- synchronize attacks across the country, their choice is lay down arms and blend in or, you know, fight to the death. and some, many of these guys, unfortunately, are choosing the former. grefe griff when you say intelligencing failures, are you talking about our assessment of the readiness of the afghan security forces?
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>> no, i mean our failure to understand the capability of the taliban. and joe biden has to own this. just a month ago, i think it was july, he said that the afghans are not going to fall apart. and that's assumed based on an assessment of the capabilities of the taliban. so either, a, he wasn't listening to the intelligence community, or the intelligence community failed to paint the pictureover the capabilities -- picture of the capabilities of the taliban of. we need an oversight committee to find out what's going on on. why are we surprised with the speed, and this is quoting kirby yesterday in his press conference, why are we surprised with the speed of the taliban's assault on the country? this should not shock the united states of america. and the fact that the president predicted that this wouldn't happen only a month ago is a failure. and it's -- congress is going to need to do an oversight committee on this and dig into was this an intelligence committee failure or did the
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president choose to ignore what they were saying. griff: and now we have marines on the ground. we have 3,000 back. we had 2,50 in iraq -- 2,500 in iraq. could this have been handled, perhaps, more appropriately? >> yeah, absolutely. i think a conditions-based withdrawal. when you are -- this is probably the hard thing to do in military parlance, is a relief in place. when one set of military guys turn over control to other military guys. now -- some of this has been progressing for years as you quoted from pompeo earlier. but you base all of the stages of that a withdrawal on the conditions on the ground, not based on the calendar or the clock in this case. and that's the way biden has done it. and that time-based versus conditions-based withdrawal is what's resulted in the afghans feeling abandoned and losing the will to fight.
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griff: congressman, our viewers may not know or remember, you are a special operations flight sergeant with the night stalkers in afghanistan. thank you for your tour. in just ten seconds we have left, are you taking it hard? i know a lot of veterans are. >> of course. i lost some very close friends there in afghanistan. and so, obviously, this is -- to think that we're now going to have -- i mean, the instability that will be created when the taliban takes over that country, this will play all over again just like when biden and obama pulled us out of iraq in 2011, resulted in isis. this is a record that's playing over again, same leadership, same failure. griff: congressman mark green, thank you for taking time. thank you for your service, sir. >> thank you. 23wreu6 give and america speaks out in a brand new fox news poll including what you think about mask mandates, next.
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griff: welcome back. as some states tighten vaccination rules, new fox polls show that americans are divide on whether personal if freedom or public safety is more important. this is just one of our recently released polls, and we've got our panel to break it down, "wall street journal" editorial assistant page editor james freeman and chief political adviser kristin han. thanks for taking time. let's start with the first one, the country really pretty split when it comes to protecting the safety of americans versus freedom. what are your thoughts, james? >> well, i think a lot of people remember the two weeks to stop the spread is now a year and a half plus and counting. i think a lot of people are hoping for a balance here. we went through enormous challenges and costs of the lockdowns, didn't seem to make
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much of a difference. and so i think there's a lot of skepticism now about whatever the next governmental effort is and a lot of people hoping we can understand there's no such thing as zero risk, it's time to get on with our lives. griff: kristin, i'm going to guess you're a little surprised that the number to protect americans' safety isn't higher. >> i'm actually not that surprised. i mean, i think that the difference between last year and this year is that we've got this inebb credible tool in the -- incredible tool in the vaccine. you know, i reject and have said this on this program before, any efforts to politicize the science behind this. so, you know, i mean, i think people want to get back to their lives, and we have to figure out how we do that. the economy depends on it, kids need to get back to school, and in some areas where the vaccine, people are not getting the vaccine and getting sicker, and we're seeing this in places like austin, texas, masks at schools might help out.
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but it actually doesn't surprise me all that much. griff: you mentioned schools, kristin, that's on a lot of parents' minds including mine. i've got two kids about to go back. the poll was interesting, what should schools do in the fall. 36% say in person as usual, 33% in person with masks. james, do you think we're going to to see perhaps the further politicization of the protocols as we get closer and closer to all the schools opening? >> well, i think you are going to see more and more parents asking why those masks have to be on there. we've known all along that kids are not at the risk that other people are. we also know that unless you're talking about an n95, a surgical mask that's perfectly fitted, there's actually not a lot of data suggesting that the normal masks that you see people wearing have much of an impact. we do know, as e we've seen with the lockdowns and distance
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learning having such a negative impact on children, so does mask wearing. for some children it obviously inning hints breathing. if you're forcing them to wear the mask over the long term, it can have developmental issues. not just physical, psychological as well in terms of young kids. we're social creatures, and they don't thrive when they're not able to see faces and smiles and expressions. i didn't have i didn't have kristin, quickly, your thoughts on that one. >> yeah, you know, i would agree with some of that. the children, you know, i would just reiterate, you know, the important thing is the adults getting vaccinated and that we educate, that we go to, you know, business leaders and pastors and we're going across this country and connecting -- and educating people to get vaccinated because until then we won't have herd immunity, but i do agree kids need to be back in school. griff: guys, let me show you the one that surprised me, and
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that's this. it shows the president's job performance on coronavirus. you can see there 54% approve, but if you look back to june, 64. james, why'd he slip ten points? >> well, obviously, the cases have gone up, hospitalizations are up, deaths up lately. but still those deaths far below, fortunately, the peak we saw in early january. i think the problem there, this has been a strength for mr. biden in his polling, but if you go back to his remarks of early this year, i think a normal voter would assume he was saying the problem would be resolved, be back to living our normal lives, and i think that's the frustration here. and i think he and folks have to realize this is one risk in life. we manage it as best we can, but we can't stay in a permanent emergency. griff: james, we've got to leave it there. kristin, ten seconds as we go
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out here. do you think the president could slip further? >> i think it goes up and down. i think there is some of -- like the delta variant's an element out of his control, but i think you'll see his numbers fluctuate a bit but go up in the future. griff: kristin and james, great debate. we'll hit you up next time we get the next polls, have a great standard. jacqui: milk, bread, hamburgers, bananas, they're all costing more, and americans are seeing the higher prices at the grocery store. we'll have more on the impact of rising ennation coming up after the -- inflation coming up after the break. they're right behind you. reunite with your team. go bowling.
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griff: more new video coming in from haiti, searching for victims, survivors where a 7.2 earthquake hit. we expect, sadly, that number of casualties, 29 confirmed, to rise sharply as we look at these devastating pictures. jacqui: prepare for more sticker shock at the grocery store as prices continue to rise and consumers' pocketbooks are taking another hit. charles watson joining us live with details. hey, charles. >> reporter: yeah, it seems like the days of the pandemic bargain shopping are over. folks are having to dig deeper
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as prices continue to go up, and that seems to be most evident in the grocery store where prices are tugging on purse spring strings. according to the bureau of labor statistics, the price of meat, poultry, fish and eggs are up a 5% since last year forcing some shoppers how to do more with less. >> we have to cut back a little bit, of course. not as much expensive meat, you know? lots of hamburger, that kind of thing. [laughter] >> i have to go maybe for a week or two at a time before i get, you know, to buy the meat. the way that i used to buy them, no, i don't buy them as regular. >> reporter: whatever the case, it's got people on both sides of the aisle worried. according to a fox news poll, both democrats and republicans are concerned about inflation. 78% among democrats and 94%
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among republicans. there are a number of things in play in terms of driving prices up. experts point to a more active economy following more than a year of lockdowns, business disruptions caused by the covid delta variant and increased labor costs passed down to the consumer. some economic experts say the government payouts during the pandemic are at fault too. and, jackie, the hope is among economists that the inflation that we're seeing right now is temporary. some economists we spoke to said they do see some positives in the latest consumer price index, one being that businesses are finding a way to get over those covid slowdowns. jacqui: all right, charles watson, thanks for that. that is all for us this hour. "fox news live "continues with eric and arthel. i'm jacqui heinrich -- griff: i'm griff griff jenkins,s for watching. or what you need.
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muck. eric: right now dozens are reported dead after a powerful earthquake rocked haiti this morning. that quake centered about 93 miles west of the capital of port-au-prince in a country that has suffered so much for so long. hello, everyone, welcome to "fox news live," i'm eric shawn. arthel: hello, everyone, i'm arthel neville. the u.s. geological survey says the quake was measured at magnitude 7.2. officials say it was bigger and more shallow than the 7.0 tremors that devastated haiti back in

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