tv Hannity FOX News August 16, 2021 11:00pm-12:00am PDT
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mark steyn for the hour. we will be back tomorrow night 8:00 p.m., the show that is the sworn and sincere enemy of lying smugness, and groupthink. have a great night. now it's time for sean hannity. >> welcome to hannity and tonight joe biden is completely and totally frankly just too humiliated on the united states and world stage and any confidence that the world had in our country is now gone. saigon, circa 1975, steroids. former defense secretary and c.i.a. director leon panetta calling it biden's bay of pigs and thanks to the ill-fated actions of our derelict low functioning president, the worst case scenario has been playing out before our eyes.
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ignoring the advice of his tap military commanders. they wanted slow withdrawal of u.s. troops based on the ground. now afghanistan has fallen to the islamic extremists, the taliban in record time. kabul, they just said, oh, it would be 90 days, the earliest that they will ever take over kabul. it was overrun in a matter of hours. taliban fighters are now in control of a massive stockpile, guess what, of joe biden u.s. taxpayer paid for weapons, ammo, vehicles, and other supplies abandoned during biden's hasty retreat. he wasn't even smart enough to take our munitions out. terrorists from al qaeda and isis were freed from multiple prisons all across this country. they soon will be plotting and planning their future attacks on all the u.s. and the rest of the world fermenting terror. the american flag lowered over our embassy beyond humiliating,
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as diplomats hastily were evacuated by helicopter to the airport. the very thing biden said wouldn't happen. viewer warning what you're about to see is incredibly graphic but take a look at this horrific video. earlier today thousands of desperate afghan citizens fleeing certain death at the hands of the taliban. now rushing to the tarmac of the airport trying to cling to a departing c-17 military plane, some crushed under the wheels' planes and others fell from the plane midair during its ascent hoping they might be able to hang on and get out dozens of others tating to board any and all commercial planes parked on the runway. at least seven people died in the chaos and tonight as we speak, there are approximately 10,000 americans that are still at kabul international airport desperately attempting to flee the country.
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joe, what are you doing? 6,000 u.s. soldiers now are in the process of reentering afghanistan, taken over by the taliban, to try to now secure the airport to try and save americans. without a doubt, a complete total failure of leadership, planning, and execution, and true to form, as the disaster unfolded over the weekend joe biden was nowhere to be found. aside from this bizarre photo showing joe all along at camp david crouching over an empty table at a zoom call and we got nothing from biden all weekend while this was unfolding in real-time. his press secretary wasn't available to circle back on anything. jen psaki was on vacation. if you wrote her she was on auto reply, i'll be out of the office from august 15 to august 22.
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the vice president kamala harris was also missing in action. biden comes out of hiding for a very brief scripted speech via staff before heading back on vacation where he blamed everyone but himself for the catastrophe saying the buck stops with him. >> when i came into office i inherited a deal that president trump negotiated with the taliban. the choice i had to make as your president was either to follow through on that agreement or be prepared to go back to fighting the taliban, so what's happened? afghanistan political leaders gave up and fled the country. the afghan military collapsed. sometimes without trying to fight. i know there are concerns about why we did not begin evacuating afghan's civilians sooner. part of the answer is some of the afghans did not want to leave earlier.
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i'm president of the united states of america and the buck stops with me. >> sean: but i blame everybody else, and by the way, did he have any problem overturning, let's see, president trump's secure border wall stay in mexico. did he stop building the wall? stopped trump's catch and release. now joe biden's process and release in the middle of a pandemic without vaccine passports, vaccine mandates, mask mandates and just send people all over the country. the same with energy independence. yes, he took us away from that, too. has no problems on changing policies on everything. to recap biden blamed the afghan people, the afghan military, the afghan president, the afghan government and president trump, when all else, laughably.
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he immediately returned to his vacation at camp david for more r&r, ice cream with sprinkles. the speech would not have happened today if not for the immense blow back with pretty much anyone from half a brain. even joe's protectors and the media mob could not ignore the full disaster. >> how does the biden administration miscalculate this intelligence so greatly. >> this is a fiasco. this is a big part of life is execution or implementation, and this is just malpractice. this has just been a fiasco by any and every measure. >> this is not just about the overall idea of leaving afghanistan. this is about leaving hastily and ineptly. how did president biden get this so wrong? >> joe biden will be the face of the failure of the withdrawal. >> friends and foes alike are calling this withdrawal a fiasco, a debacle and it's one
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that apparently the administration did not appreciate or see coming. >> there is no question that the white house was wrong about the length of time they had. wrong about the stripling of the afghan military, wrong about the reach of the taliban. >> in so many ways this is completely on president biden. >> sean: to sum up, joe biden did everything wrong. remember, just one month ago biden was ensuring us that a taliban takeover was not inevitable at all because they had such a strong army and air force and everything and there were 300,000 well-trained, some of the best trained soldiers in the entire world and only 75,000 taliban. no, that's not going to happen. no, we won't have to be taking people out in helicopters at the last minute. won't have people racing out of there. wrong again. >> is a taliban takeover of afghanistan now inevitable? >> no, it is not. >> why? >> because you have the afghan
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troops that have 300,000 well equipped, as well equipped as any army in the world, and an air force. again, something like 75,000 taliban. it is not inevitable. there is going to be no circumstance of you seeing people being lifted off the roof of an embassy of the united states from afghanistan. >> sean: 300,000 well equipped and they have an air force. i mean, as good as any military on the face of the earth. the exact opposite happened, joe. these are the images of people being lifted off the roof of our embassy over the weekend. when you said it wouldn't happen. your saigon, your bay of pigs. it get worse. in june biden's secretary of state, this guy is a total idiot, tony blinken the guy who sucked up china and took human rights from them as they are now threatening our military bases day in and day out. they don't say a word.
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he claimed a quick taliban takeover was not possible. yes, it was. don't we know that now. >> one, we're not withdrawing. we're staying. the embassy is staying. our programs are staying. and whatever happens in afghanistan, if there is a significant deterioration, insecurity, that could well happen, we discussed this before, i don't think it's going to be something that happens from a friday to a monday. so i wouldn't necessarily equate the departure of our forces in july-august or by early september with some kind of immediate deterioration. >> sean: number one, you lied. number two, people will die. number three, you armed the taliban, and you need to be fired, number four. again, the exact opposite happened. now, many are calling biden's ill planned retreat worse than saigon. the biden administration is actually begging the taliban, please, terrorists, please allow
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americans to safely leave the country. two decades after 9/11. make no mistake. this is about so much more than just afghanistan. the world is watching, our allies and enemies alike are witnessing joe biden's pathetic weakness on the world stage. it's humiliating and embarrassing for this country. now one of china's top newspapers are predicting that america will abandon taiwan just like they did afghanistan, and now openly planning a total reunification. let me interpret that for you, joe, that means a takeover of taiwan. meanwhile, russia doesn't fear us either with all their cyberattacks. they are now supplying all the energy for all of you are western european allies because you let it happen and granted a waiver while simultaneously firing american keystone xl pipeline workers. great job, joe, and after joe gifted them with a new pipeline,
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well, the u.s. has now endured a never ending stream of russian signer attacks. in iran we have the mullahs now continuing to enrich uranium at an accelerated pace. of course, joe had the south koreans give iran $7 billion even after joe attempted to bribe them with more international currency. in afghanistan, we now have al qaeda's safe haven back. biden steadily destroying america's standing on the world stage and now americans everywhere are less safe and less secure as they plot, plan and scheme their next 9/11 attack on america. in his book obama's secretary of defense robert gates wrote that biden had been wrong on nearly every single major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades. remember, he didn't want to take out bin laden an according to politico biden's former boss president obama even expressed a similar level of concern, "don't
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underestimate joe's ability to bleep things up." this is the difference, by the way, between joe biden and donald trump. for all the snowflakes out there that got so, oh, they got the vapors every time donald trump sent out a marine tweet and everything, they feared trump. the world feared trump. when donald trump gave a threat, they believed him. biden they know is weak and not running the show. the world sees it. they are not influenced by america's media mob and propaganda outlets. america and the world deserves better. the world needs a strong america. sadly under our biden, i fear this is only the beginning and it's only going to get worse. here with the full report fox news contributor and investigative journalist, she's spent a lot of time in afghanistan, sarah carter, you've been working the phones for three straight days talking to key people that were providing very important intelligence and interpreters to
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our troops on the ground the whole time. their lives are now in immediate danger. what's the status? >> their lives, yes, sean, their lives are in peril right now. i can't begin to express to the american people and to the viewers the terror that is reaping through kabul right now. i've been on the phone for the past few days with my friends. i consider them my friends. they are some 50,000 interpreters, the people that stood by our troops, men like my husband who was wounded in afghanistan in 2011 and lost his eyesight. they stood by him, worked with him and they were promised that they would be brought back to the united states if something ever happened. now the taliban according to my sources is walking door-to-door pulling people out of homes. they actually have amassed a list and i know some people are on these lists that they are searching for. people in the united states are actually scrambling trying to get funding raised so that they can move some of these people
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outside of afghanistan if the u.s. is incapable of doing so. kabul itself is falling apart. kandahar has already fallen apart. people that are in kandahar and in other provinces throughout afghanistan can't even make their way to kabul. i've been told tonight that the airport is being secured. it was unbelievable for so many people in our military to watch those runways and to see how insecure the airport was, and for 10,000 americans, their lives are in peril as well because we don't know which direction the taliban is going to take. -- spoke today ahead of the taliban and said it was so quick. they were able to enter kabul without even a fight, that he himself couldn't even believe it. i want you to listen to this phone conversation with one of my sources. i'm going to keep their names out of this for fear that their lives are already in danger and could be in peril but listen to this conversation we had when
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the taliban first entered. >> coming here -- with taliban. [inaudible] >> sean, he's terrified that his children will be killed. there are people there with little girls, young girls, they are afraid that al qaeda will take them for their wives. this is a terrible situation. biden needs to stand on principle. president biden needs to get these interpreters out of there. they have to believe in our word or they won't believe in us again. sean? >> sean: sarah, thank you for that report. let's turn to some remarks from former defense secretary c.i.a. leon panetta. hardly a conservative comparing the situation in afghanistan to the bay of pigs. take a look. >> this moment is what for joe
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biden, president biden? >> in many ways, i think of john kennedy and the bay of pigs. it unfolded quickly and the president thought that everything would be fine, and that was not the case, but president kennedy took responsibility for what took place and i strongly recommend to president biden that he take responsibility, admit the mistakes that were made. >> sean: joining us with reaction, lieutenant colonel oliver north. he spent a lot of time on the ground in vietnam and in afghanistan. i can only imagine what military families are feeling tonight. those that served multiple tours. hose that lost loved ones. those that came home with extensive permanent injuries. your take on all of this? >> well, this is biden's biggest blunder, it's his saigon moment. since 2001, since you're talking about those who served there, more than 780,000 u.s. troops
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have been deployed to afghanistan. more than 2,300 died. and nearly 20,600 were wounded and we're still counting. there are more than 50,000 afghan military and security personnel who have been killed since october 2001. biden saying they didn't fight is dead wrong. this war has cost the united states more than a trillion dollars and ending america's longest war is the right thing to do, but doing the right thing the wrong way can result in the kinds of disaster we see being played out right now. he said the goal 20 years ago was counterterrorism. he's proud to have opposed the bush and obama surges. he claimed that he's going to say that the buck stops here plagiarizing harry truman. over the horizon containeds, he said, with air power, we can take care of things for counterterrorism. dead wrong. there is no search and rescue for a downed pilot in afghanistan or other countries
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where we're doing those kinds of operations. god help those pilots. he said this is unfolded faster than we expected. think carefully about what that means, sean. that means they expected this kind of thing to happen eventually, just not as fast. and he refused to take the very sage advice from the pentagon and the c.i.a., don't do it this way. the afghan military was supposedly 300,000 well equipped. not so. they started losing troops when he set a withdrawal date and the taliban does not have an air force. neither, of course, does the afghan military. because that air force is both fled and grounded because they pulled out the very first things to go were the u.s. bases. that's where they were maintaining those aircraft. he says it's wrong to order american troops to fight if afghan troops won't fight. they did fight until he announced the date of withdrawal, that should have been based on the conditions on
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the ground. this is a whole disaster of his making. >> sean: now formery country station chief dan hoffman, former speaker of the house newt gingrich. both fox news contributors. mr. speaker, there is a clear distinction. ollie north touched on it. the trump plan was based -- was going to be based on conditions on the ground. factor number one. factor number two is donald trump was believed. if donald trump made a threat they believed it because he had a track record while isis grew under biden and obama, isis was systematically destroyed and defeated under donald trump. he said it. he did it. and the taliban knew damn well what would happen if, in fact, they didn't abide by any agreement that went on. they wouldn't have tried this under trump, would be my argument, your thoughts? >> first of all, i don't know that joe biden has threatened anybody with anything so there is no way of knowing.
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the biden world seems to be attack your allies, ignore your enemies, pretend that bad things aren't happening. i watched his speech this afternoon and i thought, for most people, if you took what you were seeing live coming out of afghanistan, the crowds, the fear, the takeover by the taliban, and then you looked at this speech by this guy who was clearly totally out of it, he has no idea what's going on, and his number one goal in that speech was to blame anybody else. he said, the buck stops here. he didn't mean that. the buck stopped with the afghan army. the buck stopped with donald trump. the buck stopped somewhere else, but the fact is, this is a major american defeat. it's going to have huge consequences, as you pointed out earlier, it's going to embolden the chinese, whether it's in taiwan or the south china sea or, frankly, they are going to become allies of the taliban because they want the minerals
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in which northern afghanistan is enormously rich. and they are going to be quite happy. they don't care what the taliban does to women. they just want the minerals. >> sean: as recently as last thursday, dan hoffman, you worked all these years in the intelligence community, they were telling us, oh, they wouldn't make it to kabul for another 90 days at least. on every level, how could they have been so wrong? how could joe biden just a couple of weeks ago be saying, oh, it will never happen. the taliban will never be able to get back in power, and yet, now it is, what, you know, the emirates of afghanistan, here we go? islamic emirates of afghanistan? >> aspirational, wishful foreign policy, just as the biden administration was arguing that if the taliban wanted to receive
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international recognition and foreign aid that they wouldn't attempt to take over the country by force. that ignored the reality that china and russia, not to mention iran and pakistan, are going to support the taliban. our greatest ally in the region was the former government of afghanistan, and what really concerns me going forward is that we used to own the battle space and we had a sizable intelligence community footprint so when we served our mission to find and fix those terrorists so we could detect and preempt threats we had the kinetic capability to preempt them before being visited on our shores. we don't have that any more and taliban controls the country. so what i wanted to hear today is what's plan to deal with those threats? we're a few weeks out from the 20th anniversary of 9/11 and the irony of ironies we're at greater risk now from afghanistan than we have ever been before. >> sean: mr. speaker, we have 10,000 americans and we're not in control of that country or airport.
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how are they going to get those americans home? >> i think they will get out but it's very disturbing that the administration announced yesterday americans wouldn't automatically be given any kind of priority which is the opposite of the policy we've always had up until now. i think there is a deeper thing here. the taliban has been around for a long time. they have had a set of goals. they are a religious fanatic group. what's going to happen to women, and president george bush was exactly right today, to say the greatest thing he fears is what's going to happen to young girls and to women, and as you may remember, when -- was the ambassador of the vatican she host add conference on religious liberty we had yawning woman from iraq who had been captured by isis and had been basically passed around as a slave. that's the kind of stuff well see in afghanistan and it's sad that not a single woman's group
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on the left is up in arms over what's about to happen. >> sean: we'll pick up on that on the other side to this. mr. speaker, thank you. mr. hoffman, thank you. china getting ready to capitalize. senator rubio reacting and women wouldn't work or go to school under the taliban's last regime, what is their future going forward next?
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the communist chinese are suggesting that we'll abandon taiwan after the afghan collapse. how long will it be before china capitalizes on this clear american weakness and the lack of american resolve and a cognitively pathetic president? sadly i think the chinese have zero fear about taking over taiwan with joe biden as president. remember, our foreign adversaries are not exactly influenced by the media mob and big tech mob. they know biden is not up to this job. they know he's a cognitive mess. he's failing on policy facts, even to articulate a coherent vision on keeping america safe and secure and he's too busy to get his ass out of the chair and get back to work. i went back and looked a lot of your tweets, you warned them
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this would fail. you told them exactly what would happen and they ignored it and the next step is you predict this will now once again be a safe haven for groups like al qaeda moving forward. >> it was a bipartisan warning. you look at the intelligence, it was clear, not only was the worst case scenario out there it was the likeliest outcome and we kept insisting what is the plan if this happens? what is the plan? and they arrogantly and smugly ignored it because they are the experts and know everything and we see the consequences. joe biden was elected confidence to return the normalcy, expertise to foreign policy and we see they can't even execute on something like this and ignore the people who know something about it. that does encourage people like china, countries like china and other adversaries, not to just go out and try to undermine confidence in america but actually test america and think they can get away with it and the other is something that the pentagon is already saying and
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we've already been saying for close to nine months, the biggest problem here is going to be now that al qaeda is coming back to afghanistan, let there be no doubt, they are coming back, they will reconstitute, they will pose a threat again, and this administration has no plan whatsoever to prevent that from happening. >> sean: china -- i'm sorry, russia is involved in cyberattacks against this country. china is threatening our military bases, they are threatening japan's military bases. they are threatening to take over an independent sovereign country, taiwan, they are calling it reunification, and they are lecturing america on human rights in anchorage and our ever pathetically weak secretary of state, is allowing them to do so with no pushback. so my question is, why wouldn't the chinese think that they can take or reunify, their term, with taiwan? >> foreign policy a very tough business and a lot of it -- it's
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not made in the parlers, not made by the commentary class. it's hard nose nation states making a decision, what can we get away with and if we do this, what's going to happen to us? with joe biden in the white house our adversaries will conclude there are things they can get away with and they can do because this white house is not strong. they are not prepared. they aren't even competent and i fear what that means. this is a big problem. >> sean: we're going to compare, i know some people were so offended, you know, their daily outrage at donald trump's tweeting but donald trump was able to get trade deals that nobody thought possible because everybody believed that a trade war would come and that he would follow through. our enemies knew, for example, look at isis, he defeated the caliphate. biden, obama, were incapable of dealing with any such threat. they don't seem to have -- there is no belief that joe biden will lift a finger to stop anything
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here, which means these nations, their geopolitical, geographical ambitions, are going to be pursued and likely they will be successful. >> yes. look, afghanistan had to come to a conclusion -- the war in afghanistan had to come to a conclusion, it couldn't go on forever, what this reveals is you can get away with things with this administration and they won't take it seriously and won't know what to to do about it. it was widely called murder, execution, all kinds of people attacking president trump for doing it, i assure you, a hundred percent, i know for a fact, it impacted the psychologist of the iranian regime and of the group that soleimani had. >> sean: they feared trump and they believed he was capable of following through on his threats. >> that's exactly what a lot of foreign policy is all about. what do your -- what do they think you will do? and the soleimani strike sent the message, the guy was a smug
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guy that would walk around, fly around with impunity. he thought he was untouchable until he wasn't. that had an impact. there is no fear of that under biden. none. >> sean: it was based on conditions on the ground and a genuine fear that like donned trump wiped out the caliphate, that they would be, the taliban would be wiped out similarly if they dared to try this if donald trump was president. this didn't happen on trump's watch. this happened on biden's watch while biden was on vacation and couldn't bother to even take time to deal with it. >> because they operated under assumptions that were completely ridiculous. the assumption was, what if the afghans stand up and fight and push back? if you make those assumptions, yes, they could have held out for six months or a year but as soon as the united states niced they were leaving, leaders abandoned the country, that's exactly what happened, that's what they were told, that's what they were warned would happen, they didn't care and now we see the consequences of it.
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>> sean: thanks for being here with us. what are the consequences that the taliban who take over afghanistan, what will it mean for women in that country because previously, it meant women couldn't go to work or to school. they were told how to dress and conduct themselves and many young women were taken as child brides. is that coming back? we weigh in next and also a programming announcement you don't want to miss straight ahead. there with them. so when their windshield got a chip, they wanted it fixed fast. they drove to safelite autoglass for a guaranteed, same-day, in-shop repair. we repaired the chip before it could crack. and with their insurance, it was no cost to them. >> woman: really? >> tech: that's service you can trust, when you need it most. ♪ pop rock music ♪ >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪
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afraid to go outside for fear of abuse, attack, even rape and the first female mayor in afghanistan says she's a sitting duck and is just waiting for the taliban to come and kill her. remember, under the taliban's rule in the past, girls were prevented from going to school. prevented from appearing in public without being fully covered meaning their face, and having a male relative with them or going to work. there were also restrictions on what healthcare they could receive, what types of transportation they could take and they were severely limited on when and where and if they could even work and were even subjected to forced marriages, abuse, and rape, and those who broke the rules faced public flogging and even execution. here with reaction, laura trump, along with fox nation host lara logan. no agenda, 21st century
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terrorism, here at 10:00 p.m. on fox news channel and fox nation. we know what life was like for women under the taliban last time. why would we expect any different here? >> i don't think we should. i think it's going to be a horrible situation for women and for girls in afghanistan going forward now. you just detailed some of the horrific things that happened in the past. women were not able to be educated. they were not able to work. they had to be fully clothed. only their eyes being able to be seen out in public. they had to have a male escort and if not then they were publicly beaten or executed. i saw a video earlier, sean, of a young woman, she posted it on social media from afghanistan, hysterically crying, i think she was 12 or 13 saying i know what awaits me and i'm terrified for my future so i would like to
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know where are all the me, too, folks, all the hollywood elites and all the liberals who cry out and say they support women. they are for women's rights. this is a disgusting abuse of women's rights take place before our very eyes and one person is the reason this is happening right now. it's president joe biden. it's shameful what's happening over in afghanistan and probably, sadly, what's to come for these women. >> sean: laura logan, you've been in many war zones. the difference is they feared trump and they believed trump. they watched him caliphate. you know what life is right for women in the past under taliban rule. aim wrong in my descriptions in any way? >> no, you're not wrong in your description but trump fell into the trap, he was so much under siege that his very first national security announcement
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on the afghan-pakistan region, was the first of its kind to point the finger at pakistan and detail action they were going the take but it was never enacted because that administration was prevented from functioning from within. it was constantly under attack and being undermined. but, you know, sean, what i have learned, something quite significant tonight that's being left out of the narrative here, as the biden administration goes down this path. i was very shocked today when i heard biden actually say these words in his press conference, he said the afghan political leaders gave up and fled the country. and i couldn't believe it because i have been in touch with the vice president of afghanistan, and i know that days ago, he left the capital of kabul and joined the son of -- the very famous northern alliance commander, and they are part of a resistance. they haven't surrendered.
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they haven't given up, and if you've been hearing the reports today about people going door-to-door, the taliban hunting down the afghan commandos and wondering what happened to the special afghan forces and all the stories about everything collapsing, many of them, i'm told, are part of the resistance. a lot of them hid. a lot of them hid their equipment. many of them fought their way there. some died along the way, and they are dug into the valley where they plan to fight. they told me this evening when i was talking to them, that the resistance is very strong, the morale is strong, and that they will never bow to tyranny or terrorism. that's backed by pakistan, and they will not dishonor the tens of thousands of their colleagues who died fighting to defend the afghan republic, which is something that they believe in, and, you know, it's really quite shocking that the biden administration is pushing these ideas that no one in afghanistan would fight, and also, idea --
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>> sean: but he said -- >> doing the afghans a favor. >> sean: joe biden was asked directly, he said, no, it's one of the best equipped and prepared armies on the face of the earth. they got 300,000 fighters. they have got an air force. that this will never happen. what we saw unfold here, even as late as last week they were saying, no, the earliest they could even get close to kabul, you know, three, four, five months down the road. how could they be that wrong? >> well, you know, i am tell you, i was speaking to people in kabul, on the afghan side, american side, active duty people, contractors, and everybody universally said is what you're looking at now is what would happen except for one or two who were very deep in trying to salvage this, and why? because the biden administration, going back to obama, do you remember when
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obama told the taliban ande everyone in the rest of the world that the u.s. was leaving. it was done, it was over, and the u.s. gone as. so it was really never -- it was just a question of time from that moment on. plus they told the taliban to withdraw. they told them what they were doing, where they were. there were many signs, i don't believe for a second that u.s. intelligence didn't know. i think all of that is fundamentally dishonest. >> sean: the senate intel told them everything, last word, lara trump. >> i just think it's a sad day for america and an embarrassing day for america. robert gates, the obama-biden defense secretary, told us a long time ago joe biden has been on the wrong side of every foreign policy decision he had ever made. we warned people this would happen and i take no pleasure in saying this, we told you so. what a sad day for really the entire world. >> thank, you both. lara logan and laura trump. thank you. coming up, republicans want
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>> sean: republicans tonight, they want answers for how the biden administration could have gotten this so wrong and embarrassed our country so badly and what it means for our future. just moments ago, kamala harris finally woke up from a weekend map, for two days our courageous service members put their lives on the line in afghanistan. we'll always be grateful and proud, and the u.s. military involvement in afghanistan was the right decision. michael mccall and michael walls who himself served in afghanistan, okay, michael walls, the only problem is
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nobody wants these never ending wars. there is a right way and wrong way to get out. one right way is not to leave your munitions, multimillion dollar humvees all over the place and other military caches, et cetera, and it would have been smart to listen to our own intel committees that told them it would happen if they did it this way. >> yes, that's right, sean. this is one of the greatest disasters in modern american history. this is a disaster on humanitarian grounds for women and minorities. it's a disaster for our credibility. can you imagine what people in taiwan or ukraine are thinking, watching this unfold and it's a disaster for our countertrim. america is less safe. al qaeda 3.0 will come roaring back. al qaeda and the taliban are absolutely married at the hip but this time when we return, the taliban will be better armed with taxpayer funded equipment,
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we have no bases in the region and no local allies because they have all been hunted down. i want to see resignations. blinken presided over the withdrawal that led to the caliphate arising. i'm not going to wait for another 9/11 or pulse nightclub. we all remember charlie wilson's war. we need to take a page out of his page. we need to force biden to support pockets of resistance, laura is right, they exist, been in touch with them that are willing to continue the fight against the taliban and al qaeda. we can't wait for another 9/11, as we roll into the 20th anniversary of 9/11, 2001. >> sean: congressman mccall, we have 10,000 americans there, never mind the interpreters which we actually did as sarah carter reported, promised we
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would get them out if it ever came to this. their lives are now in peril tonight. >> right. this is stain on the presidency, i believe he has boulevard on his hands. when we got word of this decision, we kept repeatedly warning the administration. you have to get these interpreters, our afghan partners, out of there. they waited until the very last minute, and now this rush to the airport to get them out, and now we don't even have planes leaving the airport. now they are going to be left behind, sean. as michael knows, they will be slaughtered by the taliban. this president didn't listen to his generals, he didn't listen to the intelligence community. the ic assessment was very grim, sean, going back to may, within months, the taliban was going to take it over. the conditions would deteriorate, and that's exactly what happened. but yet he disregarded that, listen to the state department, who told him, oh, we can get this deal with the taliban. guess what?
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it didn't work. you can't strike a deal with the taliban. what i really despise most, sean, in the speech this afternoon, blaming everybody but himself including former president trump. i can tell you this. trump would never have sat back and watched an unconditional surrender of the taliban to afghanistan. he's the one who crushed isis when the obama-biden administration created this and i talked to national security advisor o'brien. he told me in his conversations the president said, he would never allow another saigon again. and that's exactly what happened. >> sean: he was warned exactly what would happen and it happened and i don't know if we'll be able to get these people out of there. there are americans there and other people's lives are at risk. thank you both. when we return, a programming announcement. you won't want to miss. straight ahead.
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>> quick programming note. tune in tomorrow night at 9:00 pm eastern. donald trump will join us to talk about the situation in afghanistan and how allowing conditions on the ground in the intel community and military commanders given the advice and listen. don't forget to set your dvr and don't let your heart be troubled. you have secretary of state mike pompeo. laura: we do. i'm curious what he has to say about what the state department said, conditions for recognizing the new afghan government. >> the taliban fears pompeo, they feared it trump, they believe both of them. that's not the case anymore. laura: great show tonight.
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