tune in tomorrow night at 9:00 pm eastern. donald trump will join us to talk about the situation in afghanistan and how allowing conditions on the ground in the intel community and military commanders given the advice and listen. don't forget to set your dvr and don't let your heart be troubled. you have secretary of state mike pompeo. laura: we do. i'm curious what he has to say about what the state department said, conditions for recognizing the new afghan government. >> the taliban fears pompeo, they feared it trump, they believe both of them. that's not the case anymore. laura: great show tonight.

i'm laura ingraham, the establishment has no clothes, that the focus of the angle. the collapse of afghanistan represents another catastrophic failure of our political establishment other examples include the collapse of the southern border and before that the collapse of our once unrivaled manufacturing base. they keep doubling down on failure insisting if they have a few more years they could make americans understand why their policies are smart and proper and to distract the public from their own failures these old packs do their best to stir up phony crises. >> is their influence by the russians? >> his behavior doesn't done much to all a that concern.

>> my warning training is an intelligence professional, i've seen in terms of what mister trump has done and is doing it is bringing this country down on the global stage. laura: if the russians weren't going to destabilize america they wanted you to believe the fair and face paint contingent would. >> i want to understand white rage and i'm white and i still understand it. what is it caused thousands of people to assault this building and try to overturn the constitution of the united states of america, what caused that? >> tackling the problem of violent extremists in our ranks and our workforce. >> they should focus on the extremists at the airport. how embarrassing. can you imagine what china must be thinking? taking taiwan is going to be like taking candy from a baby at this point.

it is far easier to demonize your fellow americans than finally own up to the fact that you and your fellow generals spectacularly failed in afghanistan commuted and own up to the obvious inadequacies of the afghan army, that you literally got almost nothing right in this mission right up until the end. >> afghan security forces have the capacity to sufficiently fight and defend their country. a negative outcome, automatic caliban make takeovers manafort on conclusion. laura: he is so smart. and for more than 10 years before that they sold americans false hope. >> the afghans are resolved to win this fight. we see success in that convinces me we can apply that success across the country. >> afghan security forces can meet their objectives by the end of the year and we are seeing

early progress as we get the inputs right in that country. >> the best trained, the best equipped and the best lead of any forces we developed yet inside afghanistan. they will only get better with time. laura: does that take your breath away? the taliban is the best equipped. all garbage into new book by craig whitlock reveals everyone on the ground seemed to know it was garbage. and oral histories of the war provided to the author, there brutally frank assessment of the effort to train afghan forces. the afghans lack of motivation and corrupt chain of command that preyed upon its own soldiers and police, one battalion commander the u.s. army infantry officer mentors lost his job after he was charged with raping one of his male soldiers, commander as replacement intern was killed by

his own men, a major problem that our military had to teach every afghan recruit how to read. one officer said they couldn't count. some even needed to learn their colors but the general never wanted to leave, treating our troops and our tax dollars as expendable to pay for their own monumental failure. trump, a pragmatic economic nationalist at heart saw through this and wanted us out of afghanistan but generals miller, mattis and others wanted us to stay as long as it took meaning basically forever. to this day they refused to listen to the american people who have been saying no to these wars since 2006. >> it was always a pipe dream, always giving a stage to the most odious people on earth, the trump administration double down on the mistakes of the obama

administration after the president abandoned the first sustainable approach toward afghanistan in 2017, self-delusion will really, we are seeing the end of that delusion now. laura: who is delusional, they think they can win, they dragged their feet until trump's last day in office and hated trump for pushing what the american people have been asking for since the election of at least barack obama, end to these wars. as we saw for the past week our military, our political, diplomatic and national security hierarchy is filled with a bunch of people who shouldn't call themselves experts. they can't do logistics, they can't game out the obvious collapse of order once our troops pulled out pleading all these people in our maps way, heartbreaking. the same humiliating bagram airbase seen the plato under trump, the democrats and the

media would have crucified him. instead they kind of an odd as biden and his cabinet drone on melting meaningless to dramatic gibberish. >> not going to do the trump did, we are going to focus on international rules. a purpose is not to contain china, to hold back, to keep it down. it is to uphold the rules-based order the china is posing a challenge to. laura: we saw over the weekend in afghanistan proved once again that there never has been and never will be such a thing as rules-based international order. no one fight for walls based international order, no one dies for rules-based international order. we've all seen this before. in 1928 germany, france, the united states and many other countries signed a kellogg brand packed and pledged to announce

war as a relation with one another. it was basically a pinky promise among girlfriends. there was no way to enforce it and 11 years later nazi germany invaded poland and the largest war in human history began. so that piece is not kept by diplomats meeting behind closed doors, the piece is not kept by solemn promises or beautiful dreams. it never has been, it never will be. there is only one way to have peace, you must be certain that the good guys with guns are strong enough to defeat the bad guys with guns. that is it. the biden team along with the rest of our establishment is simply hapless when it comes to dealing with the taliban. donald trump is right to insist you withdraw afghanistan for the simple reason that our national security establishment was incapable of doing anything beyond voicing money in american

lives. are secretary of defense should resign immediately, ditto for generally. austin has been in his head since day one and generally has gotten almost nothing right. they should both go on to tangle with more worthy adversaries, professors on us college campus or something. the next secretary of defense should be a civilian will bring approach to the pentagon. he or she should clean house and rid us of the incompetence dolts who've made the military sadly, they deserve better, made them a laughingstock because of the leadership that is poorly served them. the next chairman of the joint chiefs should be someone who will do political leaders the truth about another situation and will never ever argue with members of congress about whether america is a racist nation. we need a top-down reform at the pentagon.

when biden finally emerged late today to address the situation in afghanistan he correctly noted that it was long since time for us to get out but he failed to explain how the withdrawal of forces was so badly bungled. >> i stand squarely behind my decision was after 20 years i've learned the hard way that there was never a good time to withdraw us forces. that is why we are still there. we were clear eyed about the risks we planned for every contingency. laura: every contingency, is that's what we saw? 0 credibility. the next 3 years will be very difficult for the united states. the ship of state is readiness. our president is old and incompetent and his advisers like the political skills

necessary to manage the country in his absence. inflation is going to soar, crime rates continue to rise. we will suffer with the humiliations around the world. our enemies are already celebrating. we warned you about all of this last year and now it is going to happen. but i'm telling you, we've been here before, the carter years were one long series of disasters and encouraged many people here and abroad to give up on the united states, those people that were wrong and next year the democrats will likely lose at least one chamber of congress and that will make things better and then in 2024 we will have a chance to elect a real president who can do the job, who can defend american interests and perhaps bring about a renaissance and that is the angle. joining me now is mike pompeo, former secretary of state and fox news contributor. how could the intelligence on

the cell and be off by so much? >> this is a terrible execution of an important mission, donald trump campaigned on and for four years demanded we find the path forward in afghanistan, it was the right path we were headed down to we tried to work to find peace and reconciliation but the taliban and new that if they didn't do the things we asked them to and honor their agreements, friend an american or scared an american we would bring real costs and we did that time and again. we had drawn down from 50,000 just over 2500 by the time we departed and managed to keep a stable place, managed to make sure we protected americans, have the embassy secured. all the things you've seen fall apart over the last 96 hours in a way that reflects so poorly on all the blood and treasure and work that we've done for those 20 years, it didn't have to be this way. it is not whether we get our

photo, president biden talks about that. it was how we execute that and the failures we've had for all these years. we had come to an understanding with the taliban, we weren't about to recognize them or beg them to protect our embassy, we made clear these are the expectations, the conditions you have to meet, they hadn't met them so we were continuing to work to get our boys and girls club weren't about to allow what we've seen happen the last 96 hours happen on our watch. >> what are the chances that president biden and blinken have struck a deal with the taliban to remove thousands of people from that airport over the next week or so? what are the chances of that deal having been struck? what price had been paid. >> i hope the probability is low.

maybe -- you talked about the planning and contingencies, you don't put 6000 people back in for something you plan for, this is unplanned activity. i will be surprised if they have that agreement and i would be surprised what it is and what it will cost in terms of the risk from the rest of the world. i've said this time and again, we knew that strength created peace and weakness begets poor. you are seeing the sum result of the weakness of the administration weather is the southern border or sending the russians a pipeline completion that come from europe, all these things, the whole world watches, xi, they are watching what is happening today and i hope this administration comes to understand that apologizing and placating, appeasing, being

legally presence risks to american security. laura: yesterday in interview liz cheney had something to say about you. watch. >> president biden is a sponsor duty for making this decision but there's no question donald trump, his administration, secretary pompeo also bear significant responsibility for this. they walked down the path of legitimizing the taliban, the notion of ending endless wars, that campaign slogan was we are watching what happens when america withdraws from the world. laura: your response? >> reporter: she's lost the bubble just a bit. in the end we demonstrated we could in fact conduct the american security mission in afghanistan, we planned to get our folks home and reduce the risk we would ever be attacked again, we had a plan to do it, we were on our way to executing that. january 20th the biden administration took over, and they haven't thought about the

ramifications that would result so congresswoman janie thinks we should have been there forever, another $30 billion a year. i went to some of those transfers, our young men and women did amazing work, the young soldiers, young airmen did remarkable work. it was time to get our team home. we could've done in a way that reflected well on america and would have protected the interests we have, representative cheney has a different view, she thinks we ought to be there putting our kids at risk, that america has no vital interest in. >> this is a catastrophic failure. so many people today with enormous experience of said the same thing. where should the accountability lie for this. we have a president of the

united states at camp david. we have people who went before congress time and again and said things are pretty much on track, we had some challenges but things were going well. this went on for 10 or 12 years we were getting those updates. should secretary austin remain in his position and mark remain in his? >> a lot of work to hold leadership accountable. maybe not what may be history that began 10, 11, 12 years ago but as i think of these things our constitution demands our commander-in-chief be held accountable, we've been handed lots of challenges, north korea building up its program, giving back the fifth of ukraine, lots of challenges, we didn't blame them, we dealt with them, confronted them, took them on. president biden needs to be held accountable for what is taking place in afghanistan -- as a result of the decisions and the way he executed this withdrawal in a hasty unplanned way that

upended so much of the good work that had artie been done, he needs to be held accountable and he needs to make accountable members of his team but in the end it falls to presidents. laura: finally china made no calls about expressing his desire to take advantage of the situation, mineral rights, the bell road initiative, trade through the region and obviously looking at taiwan with hungry eyes. what is happening there tonight. what is your final comment on china. >> with respect to things in afghanistan and western china, good luck to the chinese communist party, they are going to face the same challenges as anybody who's taken on the task of trying to build afghanistan. it is a mess, completely corrupt set of leaders so i think they

will face real challenges. i'm much more worried about what they will do in the east with respect to taiwan. they've seen america is not prepared to defend the basic promise that it made under this leadership team. i hope this administration will do something to demonstrate not just words but something to demonstrate we are prepared to do the right thing by the people of taiwan. it will be really important to establish that deterrence after these aromas failures in afghanistan. laura: great to see you tonight as always and is it really our responsibility to welcome thousands of potentially unfettered refugees from afghanistan. all day we heard phrases like we promised them. who did? did you? victor davis hanson molly hemingway are here next to suggest what could end up being a disastrous situation if we don't play our cards right. stay there.

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♪ ♪ >> i made a commitment that when >> i made a commitment though when i made a mistake i would tell you i made mistakes. when i think i got it right i will say it, take responsibility for what i do and say. of the 19 except when it comes to the crisis in afghanistan. >> president biden: when i came into office i inherited a deal donald trump negotiated with the taliban and. afghanistan, political leaders gave up and fled the country. the afghan military collapsed,

sometime without trying to fight. i know there are concerns why we did not begin evacuating afghan's civilians sooner. part of the answer is some of the afghans did not want to leave. laura: looks like a lot of people didn't want to leave the airport over the weekend, begging to stay in afghanistan. and after blaming everyone except his own generals and or failed intelligence president biden jetted back to camp david by helicopter. victor davis hanson, molly hemingway, senior editor at the federalist and fox news contributor. cnn says president biden is suffering from a crisis of confidence but that presumes there was confidence to begin with. as you pointed out over the last six months they've been focusing on january 6th, not withdrawing our forces from afghanistan.

>> this entire theme of falling out of airplanes, 9/11 people jumping off of the twin towers, french people packing train stations when the nazi army arrived is tragic but an indictment of the entire military intelligence and political leadership basically of the last 20 years but especially the last six months. president biden has this text, i'm going to take responsibly, the buck stops with me and then blames everybody but himself. he blamed barack obama saying he did a surge in afghanistan and he went on to trump, he inherited this policy as if shackled by it. there hasn't been one policy he inherited from trump that he hasn't destroyed and then blames the afghan military has been doing a lot of frontline fighting since 2015. never himself that he has no idea how to withdraw in a humane

and safe and secure, we had a whole army we haven't seen in the last 30 years and 40 years, whole army dissipated because people in their mindset i would rather go cut a deal with the dark age telegram pre-civilization lands put my trust in the biden administration to have an orderly withdrawal, temporary her support and it is an indictment and all these people, the joint chiefs and secretary of defense, if they had taken one iota of the time they spent on woke us and critical race theory and what are you reading and what proportion of this group is racially balanced and told us this is happening in afghanistan, we have 50 intelligence officers that came out before the election and said hunter biden's laptop is russian disinformation, why didn't they spend a fraction of that time to assess the situation in afghanistan?

laura: this is quite staggering and infuriating. we were lied to for about 18 years or so at least and no one is going to get fired, no one is going to resign after the scenes over the weekend? trillions of dollars, the war on terror, trillions of dollars, not 1 trillion, trillions and lives lost. >> president biden said the buck stops with him but then gave a speech arguing it is a good thing to depart afghanistan after 20 years, nobody's criticizing, very few people are criticizing the departure, that is what the american people have wanted for a long time and it is good that president biden followed the decision to exit afghanistan. the entire frustration, the entire outrage and poor people have right now is over the matter of the departure but just

as this departure has been incompetently run, much of the war was incompetently run and yet nobody is held accountable, not the pentagon brass light about the realistic nature of whether it will be successful or not, not the pundits who propped up this, not the political leaders who kept us there long after it made sense to be there, and other political leaders who turned it into a nation building exercise. we need accountability for this. people need to be fired, people need to be court marshaled, need to be imprisoned, the level of corruption that led to 20 years of a nation building exercise that was never what the american people want it is staggering. laura: at the same time, prisoners freed in afghanistan. the left now wants the united states to give refuge to those

fleeing afghanistan. >> it was the discussion about the fate of the afghans left behind after a 20 year investment. >> how many afghans can they get out? >> there is 86,000 people left behind in afghanistan alone. >> we've been covering the idea of afghan allies, interpreters and others trying to get out of the country. >> moms and dads with little kids, some at the airport and every one of them should be gotten a bias. laura: do you think the american people want 80,000 folks from afghanistan that it by the same people who screwed up the war for the past 20 years coming into the united states? all 80,000? >> the same people who destroyed federal immigration and the up the southern border and expect to million people across the southern border in this fiscal

year so no credibility they can authenticate who is coming in, adjudicate whether somebody is loyal to america or al qaeda member or somebody else, they have no record of competency on any issue dealing with immigration yet there are people who are loyal and brave and we should welcome and but they don't have the ability to find them and separate them from people who do us harm. this administration has your credibility on immigration. laura: will anyone be fired after what happened? anyone of high rank? >> no. they will move up and great lobbying jobs. laura: thank you. the optics of the afghanistan reaction and media coverage doesn't quite square with reality, raymond arroyo seen and unseen next.

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laura: time for seen and unseen, the cultural stores of the day, we turn to raymond arroyo. you closely watched the president's afghanistan response. >> didn't take long, the president's address about the situation was written by somebody else, not only inaccurate but the delivery like the policy was incoherent. >> president biden: american troops performing this mission. our current military mission was shortened time, limited scope. our mission in afghanistan has made many missteps over the past two decades. >> missteps is the operable word, so much for foreign-policy being the white house strength, it took biden days to respond to the fall of afghanistan in

person, jen psaki never return emails, everybody is on vacation. the only thing the white house offered was a picture of biden at camp david allegedly zooming with national security intelligence officials. former cia members pointed out this could be a huge mistake because they may have outed cia operatives and individuals who were photographed on the wall. others great this might you soft photo since the times on the clock cannot correct and some speculate this is a staged photo and biden was watching something entirely different. >> it is the lawrence well show. >> i'm julia child. welcome to the way to cook. >> it is a pity he wasn't

watching jeopardy. could have taken foreign-policy disasters for 400. the biggest problem, go back to camp david, to go on vacation after this little address as if nothing is going on. president biden is literally not at home when it comes to this foreign-policy crisis. laura: that picture, the blue tight polo shirt look. we have people losing their lives, clinging to us air force transport plane and -- i keep thinking if trump had done the same thing with the same scene playing at the bargain air force base they would have slaughtered him, they wouldn't have given one inch. >> one of the most amazing things today was beyond the dramatic pictures of chaos in afghanistan, the media coverage

of this. this is what parallel realities for quite. you've heard of the marvel multi-verse, this is the media multi-verse. >> a relatively peaceful if you like process. they haven't had to fire a lot of shots, there hasn't been a lot of bloodshed in kabul. it was a pretty straightforward take over. >> as far as we can see call my daughter inside the capital. >> chanting death to america but they seem friendly at the same time. >> i been in egypt with the muslim brotherhood nearby. i know what it is like for a reporter in that situation but you can't distort your reporting because of your personal safety. go to secure a spot, file your report there, the delavan are not friendly, they are threatening families, beating women in the streets, raping girls right now at this hour, they are murderous thugs driven by a twisted religious ideology, your none of that today.

he would've sworn these people after the fall of communism. >> the interviews i saw of the taliban spokesman, they've been more aggressive with republican senators than they were with the taliban spokesman. it can be rougher on the edges. slightly exaggerating but i don't know. >> one of the questions msnbc is the taliban spokesman is are you going to let women vote, yes, let them lead the party and where halter tops. taliban lives under sharia law, they impose that everywhere they go. welcome to reality and that should be reported and it isn't. >> the rules-based international order. the taliban and, thank you. up next, are you worried about lambda you

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the 19 there is always another variant looking in the shadows and they will prevent us from ever going back to normal. yesterday apparently i have the ability to predict the future, when it comes to the left's fear

mongering about the pandemic. >> talking about delta today for tomorrow will be lambda. >> multiple variants, delta and lambda and we are seeing it through. >> something we need to keep an eye on, potential impact to more transmissibility, severity of illness. laura: i forgot my scuba suit again. professor of medicine at stanford and yale epidemiology professor. the lambda variant sound like an old 80s punk rock band but we are supposed to panic, hide and never come out of our homes again, what do we need to know about this? >> there's no evidence it's more deadly than any other version of

the virus, this virus has been mutating since it came out of china last year. that is what these viruses do. the question is is it more severe in terms of illness, there is no evidence of that. the thousand cases in the us so far. this variant came out of peru which during one of the harshest lockdowns in the world, the logs and if anything is correlated with the production so i don't understand the panic over this variant, it also doesn't evade -- if you had the disease and have natural immunity you are protected against the severe disease. it may evade and you get reinfected but if there is no reason to panic, it is a responsible of public health officials to stoke fear about this variant. laura: i had five or six emails

in the course of this hour about the lambda variant. i want you to respond what we heard from president biden's surgeon general on natural immunity. >> we are seeing more data that tells us you get some protection from natural infection it is not as strong as what you get from the vaccine especially with the delta variant which is the hardest and most contagious variant we've seen, we need all the protection we can get. that is why the vaccines are so effective. laura: really? >> really not. contrary to 50 years of virology and the vaccine if you give a strong enough vaccine you can make antibodies at any level you want but that's not immunity. it is how person response to an infection.

natural immunity a stronger, broader and deeper and longer lasting than vaccine immunity and we have data showing how long natural immunity survives and lasts compared to the 3 to 5 to 6 months before you need booster after booster after booster. laura: a good time to ask this, pfizer announced it is submitting international trial data to the fda to the third booster shot. the antibody start to flag after some time, which doctor fauci is thrilled about. >> we are assuming sooner or later we'll have to give boosters. it is not imminent but we are preparing as if it will be imminent. we will be ready to do it whenever the data shows the protection has gone below a

certain level because of combination of the durability of protection and the special effect regressing with the delta variant. laura: seems there making it up. i'm hearing about the special effect, it was supposed to be better than natural immunity, now you need the third and the fourth, seasonal boosters, aren't we going to have to get used to living with this virus? >> that's the thing. if you look at what the data around the world shows countries that are very highly immunized of had cases, case surges still happen, the vaccine does provide protection against severe disease, that's a very good thing. if you are older it is worth getting the vaccine because covid is so bad relative to the vaccine but on the other hand the government and doctor fauci

oversold the vaccine arguing can stop the disease from spreading, it clearly cannot. do we need another booster? at this point i don't see a good argument for, natural immunity many people have from recovering from the disease provides the same level of protection against disease as the vaccine seems to have natural immunity seems long-lasting. i don't understand why you would jump at and so you need a booster before the data are in place to say something like that. laura: what i don't understand and you read these studies all day long, why hasn't there been a completely comprehensive study done on the t and b cell memory immunity against olive variants we know about?

the cleveland clinic study kind of tried to call off i it, we still like vaccines, don't criticize us but doesn't it seem curious he said so many people had the virus and a lot of don't know what happened gotten t cells checked so they are wandering around without knowing if they have natural immunity. >> the t cells will wayne over time and people are still immune because the bone marrow when stimulated when they encounter a new virus similar to they will make antibodies again. so you can't have that unless you are in the hot phase. laura: do we need a b cell test? >> maybe the people who had

covid know they had it. laura: i don't know. i have my pics. good to see you both. what septuagenarian democrat tried his hand at wrapping? one of the more embarrassing last bites in a while next.

[crunch] >> laura: chuck schumer took the stage. laura: chuck schumer took the stage, not delivering a political speech. it was to thoroughly embarrass himself in a different way. ♪♪ >> come on, pick it up.

got to go. laura: was that a dance? the khaki pants dance? politicians can't dance. reagan danced, that was beautiful. greg got sold takes it from here. >> i'm president of the united states of america and the buck stops with me. i'm deeply saddened by the fact we now face but i do not regret my decision end america's war fighting in afghanistan and maintain laser focused on our counterterrorism mission there and in other parts of the world. todd: this is a fox news alert, no regrets, president biden sticking