have seen play out in corporate america all the time. a ceo will sometimes had to acknowledge when they have a lousy quarter and they botch something. they say it. the great ones do that. and they come back and show tha they have learned. so did abraham lincoln who went through generals like to shoot paper with said he would find a great one and he did. >> hello, i'm dana perino along with kennedy, geraldo rivera, jesse watters. 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five". >> the taliban has informed us that they are prepared to provide safe passage of civilians to the airport. we intend to hold them to that commitment. >> president biden faced a new wave of criticism for how he plans to get over 10,000 americans and countless african out of the country. the white house said it is

reliant on the taliban to allow safe passage for people trying to flee. we are learning that the peer group has more of a waiting outside the airport and is controlling who gets in. new video shows fighters haulin somebody away and kicking him i the face. they have checkpoints all aroun the city and are beating people were trying to flee the airport. the white house is refusing to commit to keeping troops on the ground while all americans are being evacuated. >> can you offer any guaranteed to the americans and afghan allies that if they remain ther past the end of the month, us troops will help them evacuate? >> our focus right now is i'm doing the work at hand and the task at hand. that is day by day getting as many americans and applicants and members of the population who are eligible to be evacuate to the airport and out on planes .

>> and president biden's pass, it's about america being back are coming back to haunt him after his blame shifting yesterday. >> the one thing that i promise i take responsibility. i inherited the deal that president trump negotiator with the taliban. america is back, not by the example of our power with by th power of our example. americans cannot and should not be fighting in a war and dying in a war that afghan forces are not willing to fight for themselves. i also one up at the world on notice, america is back. >> this is where we get reactio from everyone. let's take a look at some of th reaction from people in positions of power and what the said about this one. >> this is a situation that deteriorate rapidly beyond any one's imagination. in many ways i think that john kennedy and the bay of pigs. >> what is transpiring right no should of never happened. it was an ill on americans for

the kids come. >> it all the scenes of total chaos that we saw play out on the tv yesterday could've been avoided if the administration had planned for this in advance. >> what i am saying is it is an unmitigated disaster, state on the reputation of the united states of america. >> you are back. let's turn it over to get some thoughts. you have some? >> i wanted to get out of afghanistan, but not like that, dana. imagine having 20 years to plan for something. this is the result. jesse junior could have planned a better exit strategy. end he peered over his crib on sunday and said, dad, white didn't president finally been some air support in order to bu time for the event, i said i don't know. we're watching these images of people clinging from airplanes. the taliban is parading around with our weaponry and ice is jailbreaking americans.

>> rowdy ham. joe biden says we planned for this. really? i would hate to see what wingin it would look like it. he said it is not my fault. don't look at me. he is the one that said the 9-1 dublin though conditions. they heard that and started dancing everywhere. he was getting intel briefings in june and july and he was getting them in august. it showed the taliban and advancement. why did he do? he went on television after getting those briefings and sai this wasn't going to happen. so joe was slow, joe like him and that he remained on vacation . you can only hide incompetence for so long. is done a good job of it. he hid when he was in the set i and hit as vp and head during the campaign. now what is the joe show. is only human -- him in charge. it all blows up. he killed the afghan exit and

killed the border and backs incompetence plus we should've seen it coming, the guide botch the iraq exit. the guy stranded americans in benghazi. this was the man that was supposed to be an experienced washington hand. he knew how to pull the levers of power. listen to his intelligence advisers. make sure we have strong alliances and in one weekend that is just shatter. i don't trust them anymore. he was going to trust this guy. joe is going to crack down on illegal gun trafficking in america. just arm the taliban. you going to ask for billions for the green new deal. how are the billions working ou training the afghan army. that is how it's going to go. this is going to haunt joe bide for the rest of his short presidency. >> i rarely can be shocked, but i actually was by this question-and-answer pivots get your take on this. he was just in europe in june and remember america is back.

take a look. >> he has not yet spoken with any of the world leaders. myself, secretary blanket and several members of the team hav been engaged. and we attempt to do so in the coming days. >> do remember how mad the democrats were about half from its -- president trump was mean to nat adequate -- article five, this is the only ten but that's ever been invoke and our allies are there, dear astronomer porter said you know how mad people are the people are trapped behind enemy lines and people are leaving them there? >> it is like they are all stoned and hiding. i don't get the absolute utter incompetence. like most americans, i wanted out of afghanistan, but this is reckless and irresponsible and the execution of the non-plan i appalling to me. it is such a rookie mistake.

when you think about afghanista where i spent a lot of time between 24 in 2012, 11 assignments there. to think that you have an airbase, up wonderful impenetrable fortress of an airbase that can land and any size. you keep the kabul airport, which is in a big depression. it's in a horrible plays and no the principal at all. it shows how absolutely incompetent that are in the united states embassy. i was in the united states embassy when there was a mortar attack on the embassy. i was with brian crocker. number he got hurt. the buildings at this thick. it is a place we can have an orderly withdrawal. instead you have kids like thes preppy, you know, self-important

, iv that were just connected to the reality. and i hasten to add the one thing we can never forget is th service and sacrifice of our gi in that awful plays for 20 years , honor their service, remember everything that they o sacrifice, they and their families and don't let the incompetence and absolute bungling up this affect their legacy and the honor that we pa them. >> i agree, let's just bring preppy end of us. i think the board you are looking for was mediocrity. we believe from his look at our leaders, we think it is different than our lives. somehow it changes. everything changes and that stratosphere. wherever you go in life and wor for you work, you're going to have mediocrity incompetence. this is proof. this is the only thing that he

could defend joe biden not am not going to do it. that is in 20 years, they had 2 years to planned this. so it is not entirely on him. a few extra months of planning wouldn't do a lick of differenc if you had 20 years. having said that, pedestal no defense for him. this guy is damaged goods. i don't see -- >> i don't think that you can blame the staff. we might be up to say that the staff was a good with the president made the decision. >> that's what i'm saying. i'm talking about the 20 years of incompetence and corruption, that there is a whole bunch of people involved but he is holding the bag and the reason why is this is the biggest reason why, who was the leader who said the number one threat to america post .-dot the pala band, isis, not be seven, but white supremacy, trump voters. so he overestimated the white

group and underestimate at that hair risk, thus before. crew forget, as jesse points out , it is -- he is wrong and everything. he didn't want to have to go after bin laden so this is a consequence of his manufacturin up here to somehow get back at segment of the population under the light up being a unifier. again, par for the course. every choice that he has made i to undermine order, law and order to find -- ignoring crime. afghanistan. the band-aid up get the feeling when you can do it. every decision for celtic absolute disorder. how can they come back to this? there should be resignations. by the way, this is why there keeping kamala harris out of this. >> this is leading to some of the problems. throw the door open and western europe for russia with shut dow our energy policy here.

the pride from the administration of whether it is linked about the president or any number of them, did not see this coming. this happened so quickly. if you have ever known someone who is dated a crazy person and they kept dating, dating them because they were so scared to break up with them, it is like that. somebody broke up with a baseball game at the world series. the worst possible engineering of that. it was already going to go bad in the first place. let's say for ten years people thought this might work out. then you have ten years to figure out how to get out. you didn't listen to one person who was in there. one person who studied this. you did not listen to anyone because they were all foretold what is happening right now, which could have dire consequences for this

administration. >> i would like to add one comment, i believe you will see the intelligence community, as they are very good at doing, we've seen it for years, they d it for all the presidents. if their credibility is coming into question, they were the ones making to the media that they were telling them that thi was a possibility so you will probably see more of that and even the new jersey democrats o this data be accountability in hearings on that. >> do you think this is worse than watergate? >> everything. i think it is back now. didn't you part it on the other side? i feel much more -- >> by the way, we're worried about the taliban banned -- taliban and is a maniac in new york. we have serious problems here, major problems here. >> experts one of the potential for another 9-11.

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following president biden's catastrophic withdrawal in afghanistan, america may be facing an elevated terror threa here at home from groups like al-qaeda. remember al-qaeda? 25 days we will be commemoratin the 25th anniversary of the 9- 11 attacks that took so many american lives. now top pentagon officials and others are warning that terror was back -- based in afghanistan could bunc new attacks here on the us olympic given that nightmare

scenario, lawmakers now slammin president biden and accusing hi of putting american lives at risk. >> the biggest thing, it's a disaster for our counterterrorism. al-qaeda 3.0 will come roaring back. al-qaeda and taliban are marrie at the hip. with this time when we go back in, the talent banned are going to be better armed with taxpaye funded equipment and we have no allies because they have all been hunted down. i want to see resignations. >> that want to see resignation also but i have a slightly different take on it. remember what happened the last time the taliban hosted al-qaeda . al-qaeda had us. we came back and wiped out the taliban and took their country. another for us, it cost them their country for 20 years. five would be they be so eager that the have their country bac to sponsor -- >> they already are. >> there is a silver lining.

they have to keep it. but you start keeping a land yo become a target. can't be underground forever so that help -- taliban starts doing some heinous, the going to be public about it. we have to create a way, i call the pest-control analogy, terro control but i am happy that gen mark milley moved up and -- but still not as equal as a trump folder. >> the war on terror was supposed to shift by supremacy. this has got to shape don lemon 's by. i you've got to deal with the taliban. i hope if the taliban creates a government, it is easier to annihilate them if we choose because they are now not hiding. >> as long as they don't bring white supremacist. >> it could be white supremacists. >> you may disagree with the analysis. i support al-qaeda when al-qaed is so hot.

>> i don't disagree that would make logical sense. the problem is al-qaeda has already pledged to there. the taliban has been working with them and he was purposely said that. i think the facts of the ground it's not just al-qaeda with every other sort of islamic terrorism group now. even if they don't come to afghanistan, that might be wher the taliban get smart. maybe they say don't, here. >> there are like 20 of them, 2 different groups. >> i think the most important thing in the last 20 years has been we didn't start the war. remember, the war came to us an then we decided to go on the offense. that has to remain. remind everybody that you can get into the september 10 thinking and complacency. remember the 3:00 a.m. phone call in 2016. we didn't talk too much of that

and 2020. we probably should have. >> so what you think about al-qaeda? >> well, the legitimacy of the script that was basically defunct coming back. >> welcome a big immediate threat by the americans that ar still in afghanistan. if one of those americans or on of our allies dies at the hands of the taliban, joe thinks things are bad now, after that happens, it's going to be a you ron hostage situation. also these refugees, some of them deserve to have amnesty an to come here. do i trust joe biden to get them ? of course i don't. it does not look like good bidding is going on at the kabu airport right now. and to think that the guy that let the boston bombers come in here after rusher said -- >> they were alerted by moscow to this administration and we didn't do anything because ther was this misspelling.

they'll pull of the shooter and here after -- plastered with jihadist propaganda. i don't trust joe to vet. great question at the briefing to jake sullivan, she had a masculine she sucked but about the nato allies. what about taiwan. what about south korea. are we going to defend them after but we just witnessed and propaganda gift to russia, china , north korea, they're just going to tell the target you think the americans are confident enough. it's going to hurt. >> is a big difference between taiwan and afghanistan. afghanistan is in the middle of nowhere. what was your first feeling whe you saw the crowds at the airport yesterday and sunday? >> that it was a horrible visua but it is going to stick to thi presidency. that is one of the things, you can always tell when something is a great with a discreet with

on social media. but has that kind of a reverberation. so many people think in pictures . that is what that latch onto. i think in terms of terror, i hope to god that there's not a terror attack here and we've given up so many of our civil liberties during the pandemic that we could have a massive compromise if there is a terror attack here. is your point, i don't trust anyone in federal government to any type of vetting because the shown their failure over and over again. i think cops will come up bette from this because they have bee so demonized during the pandemi and up when you see nypd officers with the counterterrorism badge, people go, okay, someone is here who's going to pay attention to the stuff and the going to keep me safe. >> just one last note about this . my translator for many years in afghanistan is hiding out in

kabul hoping to get one of thos right through the taliban roadblocks to the airport. many international groups are working to get the two to make that happen. it is extremely concerning to many. straightahead, where is the vic president who boast about her role in removing us troops from afghanistan. now silent.

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kamala harris is mostly silent after breaking about hope role in the afghanistan withdrawal. >> he just made up really big decision, afghanistan. free up the last person in the

room. >> and you feel comfortable? >> i do. he is someone who i have seen over and over again decisions based on what he truly believes based on his years of doing thi work, setting these issues, and he truly believes it's the righ thing to do. >> that does that age well. it's only a couple of days old pal -- >> are servicemembers put their lives on the lineup afghanistan we will always be grateful and proud for the military involvement. it's the right decision. kennedy, is the kind of the strong man argument? it's a convincing argument to leave afghanistan. how botched it was. >> everyone agrees. no one think you should push your data off a bridge. she is wrong on everything. and she is so narcissistic.

why didn't she take the call an go down and start calling for a meters? she is the vice president of th united states. and she certainly is not taking a leadership role here, which i also no surprise. >> data, what is really going on . what is going on? >> i feel like something is going on. i don't know what it is. i smell some kind of thing and it is not gas. your member at the beginning of the ministration, i was going t call him the prime minister. they had kamala harris do all these world leader calls. she was making the relationship and building up a partnership with all these people. then at the briefing today you find out that president biden hasn't called anyone. we just found out at the commercial break that the white house is just alerted the world that after the briefing, brothers of the president had

not spoken to any world leaders he has now spoken to boris johnson at the uk. i have to do a mention that the women's groups and human rights groups have to be thinking that they could've expected more fro the first woman vice president, at least maybe say something. >> a woman of color, no less. a woman of color and the first woman vp, mom. >> which one argue preferring to ? >> i always go to eric owen i want to speak about a woman in leadership role because it is very easy to say, oh, they come up as nasty where or they are overbearing. >> that's right, all my children . >> she was named after senator kane. he gave her her first emmy.

>> i really think she's in a tough spot. and i don't know how competent she is in this role. she was pretty good at the senate and id at an attorney general, but i'm not sure how good she is and it's a difficul role and joe biden was a great vice president. kamala harris has been pretty mediocre. >> you're being quite diplomatic . jesse, could it be that she's out of the picture to preserve her brand? like she doesn't want her fingerprints on this now? she's in hiding. >> i have to consult my wife before i talk about women's issues on television. now that clinton has become the laughingstock the job was when he was vice president, so she has three options. this is the loyalty test right now. number one option, she can come out and be a good vpn say it wa trump's fall. it was the afghan army fall and she could really show that she

has joe's back. number two, you leak. you think that i had some questions about this execution and no one listen to me. baby maybe baby up as a as something. and you get that out there, kin of risky because she just go silent. she goes silent for about a month and then she does softbal and she gets the cameras to fil her hugging afghan women as the arrived at the tarmac here in the united states. that is her only option. she embraces that i saved your life woman and that is her play. >> now when she does that, she will have to credit you. >> she's watching. >> and let's hope she wears a mask. >> vaccine mandates are officially here. you need it to prove to just do about anything.

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around. >> can you imagine the spectacl of a black family going to oppress couple of white people and they are told to have to si outside? that would be quite a visual fo the winter. white people in and black peopl out. that's not going to go well. what is missing? the covid cops. is there a force that's going t be going around enforcing the stop? 600 agents have been hired. >> remember things like selling cigarettes and it up and tragedy . regulatory laws forcing police to become old schoolmarm, nurse ratchet, and up and tragedy. i think that they should all be going from policing. it's terrible. >> 600 covid cops in the city o 8.5 million are going to enforc this. this sounds about as well thought through as the afghan exit strategy. >> and not checking the customers, their checking the restaurants.

>> the restaurants have to comply and if they don't comply they don't check the customers, the first time it's a $1,000 fine and the second is -- >> but how did they prove that they checked. >> they watch. the guy comes in that they checked them and they don't check them. okay. your member how many people ended up happening terrible situations at their places of business because they were asking people to where masks because that was mandated. to your point, there's not -- 600 is not enough. >> it is a start. >> 900,000 new cases last week. 900,000 new cases. >> here in new york city. >> it doesn't tell you the age of the people. is that asymptomatic. just because they are new cases -- >> the thing that you embrace about the shots, black people

being excluded from restaurants and so forth. we should urge the icons of the community to urge their constituents to save their lives , to get well, to get the vaccination, rather than pointing out how horrible it would be to turn someone around. >> one of my neighbors who happened to be a doctor in the bronx, that is the biggest frustration because he is begging members of communities of color to get the vaccine and there is so much skepticism for corpus of these reeducation programs that new york city and every other big city and every other state has been imposing o people. he's so frustrated. he's like where is lebron james. why doesn't lebron james -- he would do so much more. >> he's defending china. think about that. >> and a lot of restaurants are saying we really like it becaus they are desperate for business.

their businesses have been shellacked by 75%. they are trying whatever they can to get pap you -- get people back in the door and you know that they're going to be guys going that is a vexing card, whatever. >> and how convenient it is for the governor -- the government to turn them int the authoritarian so that i hav to deal with this climate. date can just say it's private, you guys make your mind that. but it is really not making their mind up because you've go a lawyer breathing down your neck. sorry, not you, geraldo. up next, a new solution for out-of-control violence, paying criminals to not commit crimes. ♪ limu emu & doug ♪ oh! are you using liberty mutual's coverage customizer tool?

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tested out and other cities wit with mixed results. so can something like this actually work? i know they tried it in a few cities in california with it really hasn't caught on. >> i can imagine wide. when i hear violent teenager, i'm thinking, no, that's not worry about mike tax. dollars to go. i understand the desire to help with people on a better path. i also like the idea of the mentoring. i don't think that is bad but it's giving people more money and a reason to not exit find the discipline and freedom that comes from working. and it's a bad idea. >> jesse, you have three kids s far. i was thinking about this and m oldest daughter, of course a pointer to get a summer job wit now i'm looking at this. can she just built up and say i'm not a violent teenager kick but a thousand bucks a month will really teach me from not being --

>> some 17-year-old shoots me i the foot and a quarter the hospital. the have to get this guy a shooting bonus, a thousand dollars to shoot jesse. not a bad idea. >> it's actually a thousand dollars not to shoot jesse. >> no, if you shoot someone lik jessica mojica the thousand dollars a month. i think this is incentivizing violence. >> good point. they tried out and other cities for a year. homicides and gun violence goes down pathetic creeps up. that is what doesn't have a lon traction, but if you look at th stories with new york city and chicago, young men are killing each other. they're just shoot each other i cold blood see have to do something. is this really a quick. >> in chicago over the weekend there were eight killed and 53, 54 wounded. so you have to do something. i had a different idea couple o years ago the tape bothers to

stay with their families becaus i believe that that is the key indicator what the kid is going to do or what is going to happe when the kid is with them. i'm willing to try anything wit this kind of carnage. i say this as a civil rights issue of our time. it is the young black men killing each other. if we don't stop that, we're going to lose a whole generation . it's happening. nobody wants to talk about it and it gets submerged all the other huge stories. this is a civil rights issue of our time. this is a story of the moment and i am all for any innovative idea idea that make sense. doesn't do anything bad for -- >> how about giving a kid money when they do well in school or when they come up with an awesome science project. >> i'm all for it. >> i've rather do that. but you're getting pretty standard so you don't even have to prove that. >> that is so true. >> that really irks you, doesn'

it. >> it's awful. there getting rid of standards going back in the falsely won't be able to test kids to see their 30 deficit from the pandemic because it is an utter failure. but to geraldo's point, to demonize legal gun owners and you also demonize trump voters and you never really get to kamala harris's favor think about root causes. >> if you sam willing to try anything, it's because we throughout the thing that worked , which is prison. the new incentive is a thousand dollars because the old incentive is no longer they are. we will pay them up to commit crime because we are not imprisoning them for committing crimes. now we are forced to pay people not to do things we expected human beings to do for free, which is be a decent human being . we also legalized extortion. for lazio just instituted but w went after the mop before. we are paying criminals not to hurt us.

because you are pretty don't live in new york. have a question, three people i one night. it is really scary that this is what we have come to. your daughter should apply for this because if they don't give up her, it's racist. is this only black kids that ar going to give -- to get this? because. >> is it like it that are committed crimes? >> what up your daughters thinking about committing a crime. give me a grand and i won't do it. >> one more thing is up next. stay with us.

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so you get it all. ♪ ♪ >> dana: time now for one more thing.

jesse? >> jesse: we're going to do a juan williams imitation here. i will show you family photos with myself with the family in maine on vacation. there is everybody, sophie, he will canny, solon, mom and dad, aliza, emmy, jesse jr. i have him in a baby bjourn. my mom made us put a life jacket on him. i don't think it fit. i think i might have cut off air to his head. we survived the boat ride. there he is i almost dropped him off the boat ledge. how do you feel do we look? sophie and ella. and there it is. grow a beard. >> lobster was delicious. >> how many times did you eat lobster? secrecy jess i only had it once. >> we have prudent. >> geraldo: fiscally? >> dana: special one more thing i brought mine back from yesterday. saturday night i didn't anticipate having so much fun. but i ended up having a great

time at this concert and the band was -- is called kirk and the jerk. it was brian kirk and i got a little picture with him. they play the jersey shore area but they go other places as well. they are absolutely amazing. play any song. you name it they can play also happy anniversary to peter. we met 24 years ago today on an airplane. it happens. you never know. >> kennedy: and he liked your ponytail. >> jesse: go thing you didn't have a mask on he wouldn't know what you looked like. >> dana: but he liked my ponytail. greg, you are next. >> greg: tonight i have rob o'neill on the show. i wonder what we'll talk about e killed bin laden. charlie hurt, kat, great show. 11:00 p.m. greg's computer news. i was driving around the city. you won't believe ohio saw just driving around next to me. robert de niro, do we have it here? maybe we don't. >> we have unhappy. he has a lot of alimony.

scowling, scowling driving around. driving a tempo, remember the -- >> dana: i have never seen a leg out like that. >> greg: making a signal. going left here. >> kennedy: feel like he needs a cigarette. >> greg: yes he does. that is my one more thing. >> kennedy: i need a cigarette. >> geraldo: never one. i never smoked pot and proud of it. >> greg: as long as you have the edible. >> kennedy: never had an edible. >> dana: i'm afraid to try it geraldo? >> >> greg: they are fantastic. >> geraldo: geraldo news with geraldo. >> this is the rivera edition. my wonderful, engaged loving compassionate daughter, spoke at a group called friendship circle. which is where the typical kids

get paired up with the developmentally disabled kids. the handicapped kids. and they befriend them and they spend time with them and soul is such a loving person. here she is addressing the crowd i'm following in my dad's footsteps yiddish word. my mother-in-law nancy and her husband gary and erika and there is the rabbi. there is a jewish thing it's still -- he is a nice guy. but, we raise money for the friendship circle to, you know, to make a donation to autism and so forth. >> dana: that's awesome. she is great. kennedy? >> kennedy: this one is for the moms. you guys have been boozing it up since the beginning of the pandemic. day drinking up for moms and moms ofyoung children. i think we can get it up

to hundred by the end of this year. yesterday national rum day pineapple sour, two ounces pineapple rum, lime juice. three quarters ounces of simple syrup. not too hard. keep it simple, ladies. >> dana: simple. >> kennedy: sugar and water. >> dana: pretty simple. nothing simple about the next show though. that's it for us. "special report" suspect next. >> bret: from booze to news. thanks, dana. good evening, welcome to washington. i'm bret baier, breaking tonight the biden administration says the kabul withdrawal could take up to another two weeks. this comes after the frantic day of evacuations that were cut short after afghan civilians clung to u.s. planes and flooded runways trying to leave the capital. we are told the taliban have the capital airport surrounded. they have created checkpoints around the outskirts telling afghan civilians to stay put while the u.s. military is controlling the airport itself. u.s. officials say