water? why?! ahhhh! incoming! ahhhahh! i'm saved! water tastes like, water. so we fixed it. mio. howie: this is a fox news alert. tropical storm henri pounding the northeast with high winds, flooding and tidal surges. let's go to the weather center. >> yeah, center of the storm getting close to probably the rhode island coastline, around connecticut as well, over block island, off the eastern tip of long island, continuing to pull towards the north. storm surge comes in now, high tide is receding, a lot of water is trying to come out of the bay while the water is pushed into the bay as well. you notice on the radar, not much rain to the east side of

the storm, most of the rain is off towards the west side of the storm where there's more population as well. tropical storm warnings in effect now, the hurricane warning has been eliminated, the storm weakened a little bit, moved over colder water. the hurricane needs 80-degree water temperature in order to sustain itself. it's off the coast and water temps are in the lower 70s and upper 60s, so rapid weakening of the storm. we're talking about a slow process for the next 24 hours. not very common in the northeast to have a slow-moving storm. this will be moving slow so there is a bigger flood threat. we'll see a lot of heavy rain. the ground is pretty t saturated, the interior sections, because of the remnants of tropical storm fred, because of the rain and the wind, it's going to probably knock over of trees and

branches, that will cause power outages. you get the idea, areas of eastern pennsylvania, up across parts of vermont and new hampshire in some sort of flood warnings right now. that's going to be the immediate concern. the storm surge will subside over the next couple hours and we turn into a prolonged rain event. new york city in one hour got more rain than ever recorded in any one hour period, brooklyn saw six inches of rain already from this storm. more of that ahead. the winds are now down to 60 miles an hour, that is certainly helpful, especially for some of the trees and maybe that diminishes the power outage threat a little bit. howie: what everyone wants to know, it's unusual for a storm like this to hit the northeast, will this turn into a hurricane, still a tropical storm status but could this become a category

1, 2, 3 or higher. >> that is completely gone. we will only see diminishing strength of the storm, no increasing strengthening as all. howie: a lot of worries for people who live in the path of the storm, particularly those on long island and new england who are not used to this sort of thing. thank you very much, rick reichmuth had,. , we appreciate it.the whole wot happened, no amount of spinning or deflecting or reframing or refocusing can change the heart breaking humiliation, the nail failure this country suffered in afghanistan and the fact that president biden owns this debacle. the anchors and reporters and pundits including those usually quite friendly to the 46th president are slamming him for the incompetent execution of the evacuation of americans and ally as taliban seized the country without much of a fight.

biden drawing flak for telling abc's george stephanopoulos that the horror show, he used the word messy, was inevitable. >> you don't think this could have been handled better in any way, no mistakes? >> no. i don't think it could have been handled in a way that -- we're going to go back in hindsight and look but the idea that some diss how there's a way to have gotten out without chaos ensuing, i don't know how that happens. howie: but it's getting worse with evacuation flights resuming this morning. there's more complicated story for the press, a 20 year failure of lies and delusion, in which george w. bush, barack obama and donald trump all played a role, in which most of the media moved on from because the endless fighting was depressing and ratings poison. most of the media trying to hold biden and top officials accountable for the empty promises that the afghan military would hang on, as we came on the air last sunday

morning it was over in the blink of a news cycle. i'm howard kurtz and this is media buzz from los angeles. ♪ howie: when president biden strongly defended his decision to put out of after began stan, he was eviscerated not just by journalists and those on the right but by those who are more sympathetic to him. >> the truth is, this did unfold more quickly than we anticipated. american troops cannot and should not be fighting in a war and dying in a war that afghan forces are not willing to fight for themselves. >> most americans did support a withdrawal from afghanistan. the president can say that he planned for every consistent co, but knows that's not true. the white house knows that's not true. and the american people know

that's not true. >> we've just suffered one of the most humiliating defeats in american history, a defeat made worse by their utter inability to predict anything with accuracy and their response is that biden isn't talking to anyone? >> the white house that prides itself on being smart, being competent, getting things done, this isn't trump anymore, this is did good guys have come in, this has been a crushing week i think. >> this is absolutely predictable. i don't exactly believe all of the talk that nobody could have foreseen this, that that no one saw this, that no one was warned. people were warning from here. i spoke to them. >> either joe biden completely miscalculated in which cases incompetent or he knew this would be the result and didn't care in which cases a horrible human being. howie: some are insisting on supporting the president in the midst of this travesty. >> we have not been able to

defeat the taliban. biden did pull the band-aid off and i think he took a very tough decision, a brave decision. >> 95% of the american people will agree with everything he just said. 95% of the press covering this white house will disagree. howie: joining us now to analyze the coverage, guy benson, and mara liasson, npr's national political reporter and fox news contributor. guy, most of the media in my view have been aggressive, tough, outraged at the scope of the failure in afghanistan. do they have much choice, given the magnitude of this debacle? >> no, there are some fiascoes that are simply unspinable. and this is one of them. and when the president of the united states comes out and gives a speech as he did the other day and takes just a handful of questions and during that q & a he uncorks one

proveably unverifyable remark after another, it was one of astonishment where they said there's no connection there in some of the answers to reality and you couple the spin and the deflexions from the president on down in the administration with the images and reports on the ground and sometimes you just can't make a story look like anything other than what it is and it is an absolute humiliating debacle. howie: no quarrel from me there. mara, we're seeing anchors and correspondents who are ordinarily friendly to president joe biden saying this has shattered the image of competence that he ran on and it's difficult to repair that or get it back, clearly the roughest coverage of his presidency. >> no doubt. i don't know if he can get it back. it's hard to make predictions, especially about the future. the notion that somehow the

mainstream media are reflex ivepartisans is false. they're calls it like they see. it's hard to spin this any other way than this was a debacle. this wasn't anticipated. sounds like no one in the military or -- there were some contrary voices but the consensus view was that this wouldn't happen and it did happen. so that's the media's job to call it as they see it and to compare what administration officials including the president say and what the reality is on the ground. howie: guy, has biden hurt himself in terms of the coverage by insisting as we saw a moment ago this was inevitable, there was no way to avoid it when he himself said, early july, it was highly unlikely that the taliban would overrun the country very quickly, there would be no saigon-style exit. how much does that hurt him? >> hugely.

obviously. and i'm going to disagree politely about the overall bias of the media. you have the president and secretary of state as you note making predictions not months ago, not years ago, weeks ago about how this was going to go and to have those completely blown up, their predictions, just crushed by the reality makes it even 45rder -- harder for them in their pr efforts here. the president said among many other things, we planned for every contingency. i can't imagine how anyone could believe that at this stage. he made other assertions. for example, oh, we couldn't really have seen this coming and then we see some of the evidence in the cables being leaked that perhaps they were warned this is happening, he said there's no al-qaida left in afghanistan, that's patently untrue. he said americans that want to get to the airport can get to the airport, immediately anyone on the ground said laughably false. he said our alliances are

stronger than ever. there's no questioning of american credibility. that is laughably not true, based on what was you saw in european capitals for example in the last few weeks. it's one after another. howie: what struck me the most was biden taking questions from the press on friday, saying americans can get to the airport, not only is that difficult but the very next day, which is yesterday, the nbc -- the embassy said don't go to the airport and evacuation flights were halted for a day. to the extent that some media liberals are trying to defend president biden and the team, is that he's made the difficult decision to get out, a withdrawal supported by more than 670% of the pub -- 70% of the public, it's that the execution left something to be desired. >> there's two things, there's the decision to withdraw, two consecutive at a medicine strayingses -- administrations decided it was a good thing. then there's the execution. that's what he's getting slammed for. presidents need to be seen as

competent. jimmy carter had a crisis of competence with the hostage situation. joe biden ran on credibility and competence and foreign policy experience. and all of that has been belied by this episode. howie: i'm glad you brought up historical examples. those were turning points for those particular presidents and of course the question seven months into his term is whether this will color the rest of joe biden's term in office. guy, very important story in the washington post, u.s. military officials privately harbored fundamental doubts for the duration of the war that afghan security forces could become competent and shed dependency on the u.s., one official saying thinking we could build the military this fast and this well was insane. so was it lying to the public or was itself delusion. >> my guess is it leans more in

the self delusion category. when you're delewding yourself and if you're -- delewding yourself and you're ignoring other data that doesn't play into the delusion, that's a form of being dishonest and misleading the public. i was not alive during vietnam. i read about vietnam. you hear stories about vietnam. i think there are parallels awhere the united states is dug in a policy for a very long time. the policy is in some ways obviously failing 3w-9 they have to try to dress it up because there's so much american reputation on the line. they feel maybe a corner is going to be turned and if we're going to put our men and women in harm's way we have to be completely honest with the american people. because otherwise, you're going to undermine the credibility and the believability of the government in general and if we need to go to war some time in the future, you're going to have a lot more people skeptical and

asking questions and it would be a self inflicted wound by the ruling class. howie: i was alive during vietnam. this does carry okay co-s because there -- carry ebbing e, there was the statement that everything would be fine but we found out that military officials knew it was going very badly. the president doesn't seem to hold anyone accountable. guy alluded to a memo, a cable sent directly to secretary of state tony blinken, saying that the taliban could take over very quickly after the august 31st withdrawal deadline. obviously didn't take that long. blinken said he got the cable, he acted on it but the evacuation didn't increase by very much and i think that is part of the -- become very much part of the story line here as well. >> yeah. look, when the u.s. intelligence committee or the entire government is 180 degrees wrong

over and over again, whether it's covering up stuff in vietnam, i actually agree with guy, i don't think this was -- lying, i think they truly believed the taliban wouldn't work this swiftly, whether it was the failures before 9/11, to anticipate that, weapons of mass destruction, what happened to those and now 20 years in afghanistan with nothing to show for it, that is -- that shakes the foundation of the credibility of the world's foremost super power. what happens in the future? do our allies and our enemies believe us? i mean, that's pretty -- ha that's an open question. howie: that's an open question. the wall street journal and washington post did evacuate 200 of their people. that leaves us with fewer reporters on the ground there. let me get a break here. ahead glenn greenwald weighs in. when we come back, donald trump saying this disaster never would

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howie: joe biden has only been in office seven months but donald trump has called on him to resign after the quick toppling of the afghan government. here's what he told sean hannity. >> i don't think in all of the years our country has ever been so humiliated. i don't know what you call it, a military defeat or psychological defeat. howie: guy benson, it's understandable that donald trump is ripping his successor over what happened in afghanistan, as are all republicans, many democrats and most of the media. it's a t fact for journalists that trump negotiated the withdrawal with the taliban that would have had all american troops out by may. >> that's true. there have been people critical with the idea of negotiating

with the taliban, the details of the negotiation, some of the spin about what it did or did not entail. to have the current administration, the people in charge now trying to pretend like their hands were tied by the previous administration i think is riseable. they have overturned trump policy on almost any front but on this one they had to stick with it? that's where their spin starts to fail. as of the notion, trump would have done it better, it would have better under the previous administration, there's no way to prove or disprove that proposition, except to say it's difficult for me to imagine this going any worse than it is under president biden. howie: president trump argues this was a conditioned based deal that he could have halted the pullout if the taliban were not doing their part. we could debate the hypothetical. we don't know. the media have been reminding us

that biden basically carried out the trump withdrawal plan. both of them wanted out of this endless war. >> yeah. look, two administrations decided that being in afghanistan was not in the national security interest of the united states. big majorities of american voters wanted out after 20 years and billions, even trillions of dollars. and also, don't forget, joe biden wanted out of afghanistan before donald trump was elected president. he was skeptical of the surge under obama. he wanted out. this was about the execution, not the policy itself. it's impossible to prove or disprove whether donald trump would have done it better. that is completely irrelevant. right now, biden owns this. afghanistan was a four administration project starting with george w. bush. howie: that's a good historical point. a few in the media pointed out that president trump released 5,000 taliban prisoner as part of the negotiation process.

he invited taliban leaders to camp david. there was an uproar, that never happened. barack obama released taliban leaders in exchange for beau bergdahl. is this history, now that we're dealing with thousands of americans that want to get out of the country and escape possible reprisals under taliban rule. >> i would say it's not ancient history. it was happening during our lifetimes. we remember it. history builds on itself. it does matter how we got from point a to point b. i think march. mara is right, onceyou're at por stuff becomes irrelevant. if your policy is we're going to move forward with whatever it might be, it's up to you to get it right. to say they're not getting it right is a vast understatement. thousands of americans, we don't know how many, but thousands of americans and tens of thousands

of allies are stuck in afghanistan, the administration doesn't know how many there are, i saw earlier on tv the national security advisor came out and said we will have a plan, the secretary of state, we will have a plan to get those people to the airport which means they're still trying to formulate a plan. how deep into this are we? and we're months into the administration. howie: it's heart-breaking. so we've all agreed that biden is the commander in chief, this happened on his watch, it's on him right now. but some of the people from the trump administration are doing distancing, former national security advisor hr mcmaster says that his administration trump's administration negligence other yatesed a vein -- negotiated a surrender agreement,. >> a victory has a thousand fathers and defeat is an orphan. this was a long process of missing opportunities at every step, maybe the original conception of doing anything in

afghanistan beyond just denying al-qaida safe haven was foolhardy. this is going to be chewed over by historian and an lifts for years and -- analysts for years and hopefully they'll come up with lessons that can be applied so this kind of things doesn't happen again. howie: guy benson, mara liasson, thank you very much. up next, reporters aggressively challenging the spin by administration officials, that's next. okay, we're not gonna ask for discounts on floor models, demos or displays. shopping malls can be a big trigger for young homeowners turning into their parents. you ever think about the storage operation a place like this must rely on? -no. they just sell candles, and they're making overhead? you know what kind of fish those are? -no. -eh, don't be coy. [ laughs ] [ sniffs, clears throat ] koi fish. it can be overwhelming. think a second. have we seen this shirt before? progressive can't save you from becoming your parents. but we can save you money when you bundle home and auto with us. but you know what? i'm still gonna get it.

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howie: as the biden administration's promises about afghanistan have crumbled, anchors have challenged officials in interview as around when the president took questions on friday, the major networks corrected his optimistic assurances. >> i'm having a hard time digesting what we heard because i couldn't fact check it fast enough in real-time because there were so many misrepresentations of what's happening on the ground.

>> does that square with reporting on the ground? >> i mean, just totally not. howie: joining us now from washington, jacqui heinrich who covers the white house for fox news. are reporters turning much more aggressive because the administration's spin and lack of answers is out of sync with what military people call facts on the ground? >> i think this has just been shown time over time over the course of this week that what the president is saying is just so far from the reality of what's happening on the ground in afghanistan, the rhetoric does not match the reporting that we're getting from people who are witnessing it firsthand. there's been so many examples where it was -- you couldn't fact check quickly enough. the president said none of the military advisors told him to keep 2500 troops. she confirmed back in march that the general -- general mark mille, chairman of the joint chief, advised to keep troops, he said al-qaida's gone from

afghanistan. the secretary of said that's not completely true. he said we have no troops in syria. the pentagon said we have 900. there's been so many instances, especially considering when he said there were no problems with americans getting to the airport and we've seen image after image of people having trouble getting in, the pentagon had to send a helicopter to get americans out. howie: when your words are contradicted by the pictures everybody sees it's not a good situation. a washington post columnist said many white house officials are shell shocked by what's happening, the magnitude of the failure. what's your sense? >> i think that might be true of some people of the press, people that ran the president's campaign, who are used to talking about hopes and dreams for building the country back better but the people who are making decisions i think that these are people who have been around the block. i mean, blinken was -- he served in two administrations over 20 years, senior foreign policy

position, austin, secretary of defense, his service started in 1975, he's a four star general and the president served in the senate for 36 years, was vp for eight years, has been in politics for half a century. i think people making decisions are not as shell shocked but maybe dealing with the fallout of their bullishness in this withdrawal. howie: very briefly, jacqui, the only questions that the president had taken all week was from his sit-down with george stephanopoulos, until he took reporters' questions after a speech on friday. was there a lot of pressure on him to talk to the press? >> there's a lot of pressure which i think is sort of interesting that he is choosing today to make a statement to pool a press that's limited, in-house pool. i won't be able to go and ask questions. it's happening on a sunday. there have few people here. tomorrow morning there won't be the same pressure. you're going to play the sound on the morning shows tomorrow and there won't be the question if the president will talk today, he did it yesterday. he's trying to get in ahead of this before more pressure builds up. howie: jacqui heinrich, thanks

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alex hogan is in the middle of the storm at the tip of long island. alex. >> reporter: we are in the outer ring of henri as it passes through and to give you a look at what we're seeing right now, the wind is just pummeling us, you can feel the sand picked up by the strong wind and the rain. if you take a look at here, we have teenagers officials and the national hurricane center are warning not to do because of these dangerous riptides that we see right now. fire island was actually evacuated yesterday, a voluntary evacuation, because of how high the storm surge would be and they even canceled all of the ferries today because it would be impossible to get people off of the island because of these winds and of course the waves that we're seeing right here so this is what officials are urging people not to do, to stay home. the roads, many are flooded, urging people to stay back if they can. of course, with supplies. we know that at least 1800

customers are out of power, something that is exact expected to continue as the storm moves through continuing to knock out power and bringing flooding in its path. back to you. howie: alex hogan on the scene, thanks very much. the media are extremely skeptical about assurances by taliban leaders that they don't plan violence against anyone, journalists included. there have been close calls. >> the most frightening moment came when our producer was taking video on the iphone, two taliban fighters came up with their pistols and were ready to pistol whip them. we had to intervene and another taliban fighter came in and said no, no, no, don't do that, they're journalists. howie: joining us now, geraldo rivera, a veteran correspondent.

as a journalists who has gotten to know many soldiers, many in the military on various reporting trips, you know the turf. you said you're embarrassed for america by what's happening in afghanistan. explain. >> i thought president biden really in every regard, howie, blew this mission. let's all start and assume that we all want peace, we wanted to pull out of afghanistan. the thing you do is you don't remove your military, you don't remove the one arm that can impose some kind of order first. you keep them until everybody else, all the vulnerable civilians and aid workers and government workers are removed and then the military is the last out. that's always the way, we've all seen war movies. my goodness, it doesn't take genius planning in the pentagon to know the order of evacuation. this was totally misjudged in my view, it was mishandled, it was

misrepresented. i think it will in many ways scar the biden administration, certainly taint the aura of competence it may have had. we personally at fox agonized over this when our long-time friend and translator who i still will not name was trapped in a hotel there. we couldn't get he and his family through the taliban checkpoints to the airport. we were just living on pins and needles, worried. the taliban on the first night particularly that they were in the hotel came by knocking at the doors, knocking with their feet saying who is in here, who did you work for, you know, let me see your papers. you know, it was just so reminiscent of the world war ii movies, it was just horrible. we can report with tremendous relief that he and his family did get through the checkpoints, they got them through the checkpoints, got them on the aircraft and even as we speak

they are head todd -- headed to the capital of the oil of-rich emirates and presumably a better life awaits. howie: i'm so glad to hear that. there are many stories like that of afghans who worked with the government or with journalists who have not been able to get out of the country. again, as a veteran war correspondent, was this 20 year war, the effort to turn afghanistan into a western style democracy with echos of iraq, was it a mistake? did the -- the media has to ask difficult questions about america propping up weak regimes that collapse as soon as our soldiers leave. >> i believe it was an absolute overreach, howie, but i stuck with this mission right up until the night we heard from the airport osama bin laden was

taken out by the navy seals, they said they had the body lying on the ground in the airport as they're watching fox news reports that bin laden had been killed. to me, that was the end of the war. we went there to get -- to revenge what happened on 9/11. we didn't go there to rebuild or remake afghanistan. it's a savage place, a brutal place, a place that -- i hope the chinese take it over. let the chinese now experience the bankrupting effect of trying to prop up a nation that destroyed the american military adventure like it did the soviet military adventure, like it did the british before them and going back to alexander the great. let afghanistan be afghanistan. it will never be california. howie: let me ask about recent history. you have been friendly with donald trump. he set the negotiations in

motion with the taliban as he denounces president biden for the handling of the pullout, doesn't the former president bear some responsibility. >> certainly, he decided, the 45th president decided the time had come to end the endless war. everyone agreed with them.even g in their dislike or of hatred of president trump. what happened between the 45th and 46th president, they may have had some ambitions in common but it was the execution and the military world everything is about execution. plans don't even last past first contact with the enemy. it is the execution, it's what you do given the circumstances. and what they did is they totally under-estimated the fragile nature of the afghan military.

here we are, we're telling the afghans, don't worry, you got this, you got 300,000, you'll handle it even though you couldn't handle it when the united states had 150,000 troops there, you can handle it now. it didn't happen. the country collapsed. biden was caught flat footed. howie: taliban leaders are on twitter proclaiming they want peace, they want international aid. there's signs of violence there. but how is it that taliban -- do you believe those assurances and how is it that leaders of the taliban can be on twitter and donald trump can't? >> i think that the bitter irony of the fact that trump is banned from twitter and the taliban guy has more followers than i do, something i find very irk s&p and it -- irksome. and it speaks volumes of twitter's motivation for these things. i think it's unfortunate that

it's very clear what is going on. in terms of the execution of this plan, the fact that we had to rush all these troops to that airport, the fact that we had to try to impose order, the fact that we had to live through the several days of vietnam style agony with people falling off aircraft, getting shot by the taliban, it's something that i think will scar america for some time as it should. we stayed way too long in afghanistan. we spent way too much money in afghanistan. we lost way too many lives in afghanistan and we changed afghanistan not at all. but i say this about the taliban -- howie: back to where we started. i've got to get a break here. and we'll be right back. what are you wearing, dog? they're pants, dog. no, these are pants, dog. no way. my pants are pants, dog. pizza on a bagel—we can all agree with that. uhm whatever those are, they're not pants.

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howie: with the undeniable chaos that has engulfed afghanistan, president biden continues to tell the public he made the right decision. >> sounds like you think we should have gotten out a long time ago. >> we should have. >> and accept the idea it would be messy no matter what. >> what would be messy? getting out would be messy no matter when it court. howie: we're back with geraldo rivera. we had hoped to speak to glenn greenwald but we've had difficulties so that means more air time for you, geraldo. you actually favored pulling out of afghanistan years ago. here's joe biden saying no matter when we pulled out there would have been problems. everybody agrees, except those on tad medicine strayings payroll, -- the administration payroll, that the execution was horribly flawed with tragic consequences. do you think a lot of pundits and the foreign policy media

establishment are pro war, are always saying we need more money, more years, and therefore you could never leave a place like afghanistan? >> that's an intriguing question, how east i do believe that -- howie. i do believe the media is a big part of the military industrial complex. i believes there's friends and colleagues who never met a war they didn't like, any times there's a disturbance, let's take cuba, with the people protesting because of the lack of vaccinations and food drying up in cuba, there were people that wanted the united states to have a military adventure in cuba. it is bizarre. it is incumbent on those of us who have prudence and reasonable experience to pull back on that. we should use the military less, not more. i just want to -- one quick note, question you had earlier about taliban compliance to the cease fire and allowing the evacuation. i told you the misery we had getting through the taliban lines. we did it successfully.

here is something that encourages me. the taliban has taken over afghanistan. they don't have a pot to take a leak in. they don't have any money. the banks are empty. all the financial credit of afghanistan has been seized by the united states and other international regulators. they have no one picking up the trash, no one making the water run, no one making the lights go on. very shortly all of those necessary utilities will go by the wayside. the cell phones they treasure will soon not be working because there's no one maintaining the system. i would say now is a rare chance to get the taliban to comply, certainly to get the evacuations completed. i think that is very necessary. in terms of the military weak -- howie: my own take is that we may be looking at a kinder, gentler brutality on the part of the regime. it needs financial aid from the world and maybe that moderates

behavior. coming back to the question of a lot of people, particularly on the right, also some of the left who we've got to go into iraq, weapons of mass destruction, we've got to go into afghanistan, a different weighs in the wake of -- different situation in the wake of 9/11. isn't it true that most of their kids don't go to war, it's usually sending people from other families. >> that's definitely true, now that we don't have the draft. i was against the war in vietnam, mainly because i was targeted by the draft, i was one of the millions of people about to be drafted so i snuck into law school in my particular case and i felt so guilty about it, i became a war correspondent and chased wars around the globe ever since. howie: that was your motivation. >> that was my motivation. my prime motivation was guilt back in 1970. but i really do believe that afghanistan, if we don't learn a lesson, afghanistan is

strategically irrelevant to the world. afghanistan is a remote country in the middle of nowhere. now i think about iran and pakistan and china and the stands from the old soviet union that border afghanistan, they have their hands full. the job america did in policing the wild and crazy country, now falls to these neighbors. i hope china inherits it. i want china to go broke. i want china to bring in these muslim fundamentalists and have them mix with the chinese muslim population on the western side of china, let's see how that works out for china. howie: the argument that some in the media make that are perhaps more sympathetic to using the u.s. military than you are is we have to fight international terrorism and that afghan stand under -- afghanistan under the taliban could be a haven for those who want to make trouble around the

world. that's the argument. it's not without significance given our history. >> although that is true, i think it is totally overblown, the impact of military power on terrorist activity. what does it take to make a bomb? you get -- one guy is abdullah and abdullah number two, they get $25 worth of ingredients and they have an ied. the b-52 flying at 20,000 feet is not going to stop these two people from making their bomb. terrorism is a private -- sometimes it needs lodge is at s support. i believe that what you need is -- you need cops, you need people who blend into indigenous populations, you need undercover. you need spies.

know, it is very difficult to stop total anarchists from creating chaos. you do the best you can with tsa at the airport and so forth and so far so good. howie: thanks for doing double duty, geraldo, good to see you. >> okay. howie: still to come, chris cuomo defends his role in his brother's resignation and the new host of jeopardy apologize as he steps down. where our new auto rates are so low, ♪ you'll jump for joy. ♪ here, better protection costs a whole lot less. you're in good hands with allstate. click or call for a lower auto rate today. introducing aleve x. you're in good hands it's fast, powerful long-lasting relief with a revolutionary, rollerball design. because with the right pain reliever... life opens up. aleve it, and see what's possible. this isn't just a walk up the stairs.

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clearly with encouragement of sony pictures apologized for unwanted negative attention that that has come to jeopardy and said becoming the host would be too much of a distraction for our fans and not the right move for the show. he stays on as producer. what an embarrassment. now it's back to more celebrity tryouts. after the critics slammed chris cuomo for the role he played in his brother's defense and regular resignation, he broke his silence and said the interviews last year were meant to be temporary. >> i also said back then that i day would come when he would have to be held to account and i can't do that. i said i can't be objective when it comes to my family. so i never reported on this scandal. howie: he confirmed reports that he advised andrew cuomo to step down which the governor is doing tomorrow. >> and yes, while it was something i never imagined having to do, i did urge my

brother to resign when the time came. there are stories and critics saying all kinds of things about me, many unsupported. but no this, my position has never changed. i never misled anyone about the information i was delivering or not delivering on this program. howie: there's no question chris cuomo made some mistakes and it would have been better if he spoke out sooner. the biggest blunder was by cnn for allowing the earlier interviews when governor cuomo was riding high. naomi osaka press conference ended in tears after a reporter asked about reluctance in doing sessions which she attributed to depression. here is part of the exchange. >> you're not crazy about dealing with us, especially in this format. yet you have a lot of outside interests that are served by having a media platform. i guess my question is, how do you balance the two. >> it's different to a lot of people and i can't really help

that there are some things that i tweet or some things that i say that kind of create a lot of news articles and things like that and i know that it's because i won a couple grand slams and i've gotten to do a lot of press conferences that these things happen. but i would also say like i -- i'm not really sure how to balance the two. howie: she was overcome and needed a break. here's the outrage, her agent accused the reporter of bullying and asking appalling questions. he asked perfectly fair questions politely and respectably and the highest paid female at lead in the world -- athlete in the world seems to recognize that. we hope you'll like our facebook page, we post daily columns there and let's continue the

conversation on twitter at howard kurtz and check out my podcast. i enjoyed being out here, the la staff is terrific. we are back in washington next sunday. you know the time, 11:00 eastern. we'll see all then with the latest buzz. >> a fox news alert, president biden will speak this afternoon on the crisis in afghanistan and the push to evacuate americans from taliban controlled territory. more on that in a moment. but first, henri downgraded from a hurricane to tropical storm but still pummeling the northeast coast with 60-mile-an-hour winds and it could make landfall this hour. hello, welcome to "fox news live." i'm benjamin hall. . the national hurricane center warning