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major or u.s. airlines to help transport evacuee withs once they're out of a afghanistan. jackiejacqui heinrich. >> reporter: the president will address the nation this afternoon, we have not had a preview of anything he'll say, but he met with his national security team today. they discussed the ongoing evacuation effort among americans and allies as well as the diplomatic and military effort to have third countries work as transit points to ferry people out as they're doing that evacuation. we also know he's going to touch on the storm off the coast of new england. but there's immense pressure for the president to square some of the statements that he's made this week with the reality on the ground in afghanistan. some of the more notable fact checks, he claimed that americans haven't had trouble with the taliban getting to the airport. other cabinet if officials confirm that is not true. ea also maid none of the nato allies criticized the u.s. on the world stage, but there are reports to the contrary and

arguing the president used an example claiming the u.s. doesn't have a military presence in syria. we, in fact, have 900 troops stationed there. and he also a made this claim about al-qaeda being gone from afghanistan. >> look, let's put this thing in perspective here. what interest do we have in afghanistan at this point? with al-qaeda gone? >> al-qaeda's capacity to do what it kid on 9/11, to attack us, to attack us or our allies from afghanistan is vastly diminished. chris: is it gone? >> there al-qaeda members and remnants in afghanistan, yes. but what the president was referring to was its capacity to do what it did on 9/11, and that capacity has been very successfully diminished. >> reporter: other members of the president's cabinet defended him in various appearances on the sunday morning shows today and this address coming on a

sunday is expected to offset some of the pressure and criticism that the president faced last week for, in large part, avoiding the press aside from a sit-down interview with abc and a brief q&a on friday. however, today there's not expected to be any opportunities for journalists to ask questions, a very limited number of people going into that that event. benjamin in. benjamin: jackie, thank you. we'll have those remarks from president biden as soon as he starts speaking. plus, be sure to tune into "fox report" with jon scott. that airs tonight on the fox report at 6 p.m. eastern. alicia: as the pentagon orders commercial airlines to help bring evacuees to the u.s., fox news gets an unclose look at the chaotic situation at the airport. here's trey yingst reporting. >> reporter: we just arrived in kabul, afghanistan, where evacuations are continuing at this hour.

you can see behind me these applicants and those who have been approved and vetted are here at the airport waiting to take flights out of the country. many have been waiting here for hours. but it does seem like the flights are picking up. the taliban took control of afghanistan just one week ago, and there are still thousands of afghans and americans trapped. how did you get here, what was the process like of getting to the airport? >> the airport is very hard to get in four days, five days. the first eligible people really to come, like green card, u.s. passport and migration visa -- >> reporter: and that wasn't happening? >> no, it's not happening. >> reporter: off in the distance you'll see there are planes waiting to take them the safety, but many of them cannot get to safety. that's the big problem happening right now on the ground in a kabul. you have these gates, and you've

seen the video of the pure chaos of this airport. the taliban just feet away from american troops, pushing people back, setting up checkpoints across the city, and now there are american soldiers on the ground once again trying to insure that american citizens and these afghans can get to safety. we spoke with many of the evacuees today as they headed here to doha, qatar, and the emotions they're experiencing right now range from elation and just excitement to be out of danger and harm's way to grieving. i mean, people had to leave their entire lives behind. some people were crying and breaking down on the. plane. one woman actually had a medical emergency just filled with anxiety and frustration about having to leave her homeland. and really no one knows what comes next for the many people who are fleeing afghanistan. a lot of them are in temporary housing trying to find permanent homes, but everything right now continues to be up in the air.

alicia: trey, it's alicia acuna. i have a follow-up question for you as we await the president. he's going to be addressing the domestic audience as well as our allies, but with he will also be addressing the taliban, won't he? >> we can expect president biden to once again warn the taliban not to interfere with americans who are trying to make their way to the airport. the rhetoric out of washington not matching up to the reality on the ground. we see it over and over again, the biden administration -- whether it is the department of defense, the white house, the state department -- they repeat over and over this idea that americans aren't having much trouble getting to the airport in kabul. that's simply not true. the reality on the ground is that americans are in great danger trying to get to the airport. there are taliban checkpoints, u.s. soldiers just feet away from taliban fighters, and we're just talking about kabul right now. there are americans, thousands of them, across afghanistan and

no plan to get them to safety. alicia: a very good point. and thank you, to you and your crew, for giving us that look inside of kabul. trey yingst in doha. thanks, trey. benjamin: well, lawmakers on both sides of the political aisle calling for investigations into what went wrong during the troop withdrawal. one of those lawmakers, brad wenstrup with the house intelligence committee, an iraq vet who writes, quote: what happened last week was not just a tragic failure of leadership from a president who touted his a decades in government and foreign policy experience to get elected, it was also a betrayal of all the people who have made themselves and their families targets to the taliban by siding with the united states. congressman wenstrup joins us now. thank you so much for coming on. i know this is a topic which is very dear to your own on heart. i wonder if you could explain to our viewers, because we've been talking about all the people we worked with out there, what is

the moral obligation that we have to them? >> well, there's a tremendous moral obligation. i just what want to take one second to thank the people for the last 20 years that have served us so well and kept us free of terror and not forget them and, certainly, are thoughts are with those that are in theater right now doing this great work. i spent a year in iraq, and many days i wondered if people at home know what's going on and understand the dynamics of what it takes to accomplish the mission. so so in april of this year, i and other members of congress, both sides of the aisle, we got together a group called honoring our promises. is and we sent letters to the administration. we had phone calls with the administration. we passed laws that made it easier for some of our afghan allies, our sivs, to get out of the country and cut through some red tape. we called it a life or death situation for them. that was back in april. you know, just today i got a text from a military doctor,

friend of mine, who was there as recently as about six weeks ago. and he said he got a text from one of his patients who has a gunshot wound in his left leg and and can't walk, he's trapped, he's hiding. he got a text from the taliban that said we have your government data. we're hunting you down. turn yourself in. he knows that if he turns himself in,ning he'll be dead. you know, we have so much to consider when it comes to we have so many people to be thankful for, and we've got the make sure we get them out. but, you know, in april 1975 senator joe biden, it's in the congressional record, said we have no obligation, moral or otherwise, to evacuate with foreign nationals. no obligation to evacuate 1 or 100,001 of the south vietnamese. when he was asked about those who were hanging on to the planes desperately and falling

to their death, his only response was that was four days ago, as though it didn't matter. benjamin: yeah. >> he's told americans, i told you to get out weeks ago. did you tell 'em how? did you tell 'em why in now it's as though that it's their fault. benjamin: for months you have been honoring our promises with the bipartisan working group that you have been a part of. was no one listening? what is the wall that you came up against to stop this happening in. >> we were just told that they hear us, we're not going to let that happen. but you heard the president say we're not going to be taking people off the roof of the embassy, yet we did. and so we have been met with one disappointment after another, and there are so many lives that are at stake or or already lost. you know, they said that chaos was predicted. well, it is predictable. it is predictable, unfortunately, when you're planning your 9/11 victory celebration before you complete the mission.

and when you do the mission in reverse, things aren't going to go well. when you pull your troops before you take care of your civilians, before you take care of your allies, before you fulfill your promises, before you get your assets out of the country that'll fall into the hands of the enemy, that's a problem. there will be chaos. and we stay until we have everyone out safely. that's what we should be doing. benjamin: and so what message does it send if we don't get everyone out safely? i know you received a text message saying the image of morality is being tested. what are the consequences for the u.s. if we don't do this? >> well, i think you've been talking about all the remarks from foreign leaders. the president said he's getting great remarks or great marks from foreign leaders, but we're not if hearing that. many people very outspoken, calling it a catastrophe, greatest debacle for nato since our foundation. and what happened to america is

back? our reputation is on the line. i know i am working as a member of congress to reach out to many of our allies to let them know that this is not the america that really is what makes up most of america. this is not the military attitude of standing down. the military attitude in the united states of america is we rush in, just like people did on 9/11 into those burning buildings, we rush in, we take care of our people, we leave no one behind. we just need to have the authority to do so. benjamin: secretary blinken has said there will be time to look back and hold people accountable at a later date, now is not the time. i think we know there were mistakes made. you must know who needs to be accountable to this, who is to blame? >> well, again, we can look back and see who is to blame, but it seems to me there's a failure of leadership somewhere. the questions you want to ask is what did the intelligence community tell you. and not only that, what did the analysts tell the intelligence

community, and was that the same message in what did our military leaders advise that we do? and was that followed? those are all the things that we need to know, or did someone just make a decision that i want to get this done by a certain date? we're now hearing 8/31, august 31 is the date that it's all going to be over. no one in the military says that. in the military we go it's over when we complete our mission. benjamin: yes. congressman -- >> i'm wonder, who set the date? benjamin: i'm sorry to cut you off, we are out of time. but thank you so much, congressman wenstrup, for your service, for coming on today to. the white house told reporters reporters -- reporters have been called in. we will bring you the remarks as soon as he begins. thank you, sir. alicia: a professor if her students at the university of pittsburgh are helping people in afghanistan seek refuge. it start with tweet after the taliban takeover, jennifer feely

wrote many u.s.es-based organizations that work in afghanistan no longer exist or merged with others. many of your former u.s. colleagues no longer work at that organization. twenty years is a long time. we can help you bridge this gap and get letters of support you need now. requests are pouring in. jennifer is the director of pitt's center for governance, and she joins me now. jennifer, thank you so much for being here. can you clarify exactly what it is that you're able to do in the process? are you talking to afghans who are currently in afghanistan or those who are in the process of trying to get here or elsewhere? >> well, thank you for having me. we are dealing with over 2,000 very desperate afghans who are many kabul and all over afghanistan right now who are trying to get out. these are people who worked with the united states on our development projects, in our

civilian mission over the past 20 years. they need a letter of authorization from their former employers in order to apply for asylum. and believe it or not, trying to get that letter, trying to navigate our cumbersome bureaucracy to apply for asylum has proven to be an utter nightmare. alicia: and when they get this letter from you and your students, i mean, college students, request you're a -- and you're a professor, you're doing this work, that just blows my mind. once they get this letter, what do they do with it? if is it they have to get themselves to the airport to present it to u.s. officials? what is, what is the pipeline even looking like there? >> it's horribly bureaucratic. they have to get this letter, submit all of their paperwork and get it to someone in the u.s. government, preferably the state department, who can then submit the application on their behawaii so we are also -- behalf. so we are also trying to help with that process as well once

finish their application to find people in the state department who can submit on their behalf. believe it or not, there's not a web portal that they can go to and just upload all of their information, say here. they have to navigate this, and it is excruciating. alicia: you've been inundated with requests. how do you decide who it is that you're going to help and how do you know that these are people who mean us no harm. >> so we have to vet them all, and all we are doing is connecting them with their former employers. if their former employers can say, yes, this person worked for us, then we can help them with their application. there's many people we've had to turn away because they're simply not eligible. there's an authorization process for them. their former employers have to recognize them, know them and share with them a letter. alicia: that sounds is incredibly difficult. and do you feel like you are

losing minutes and hours as the evacuations are underway? because at some point americans are going to leave. >> yes. and there's no way that the united states can evacuate all of the people that it's promised to help by august 31st. it's just not physically possible. there are so many people who are trying to navigate system, and we're sending notes into the ether to state department accounts trying to find out who is responsible. and it's, you know, it's a prayer that we're making that these people's files get to the right places. alicia: jennifer if, thank thanu so much. >> pleasure to be here, and thanks to all of our volunteers who have been is selfless in their work. alicia: thank you. benjamin. benjamin: we have the two minute warning we arement expecting president biden to walk in any moment now to the roosevelt room are. the white house has been scrambling, of course, we're going to bring that to you as soon as it begins. he's also expected to give an

update on tropical storm henri which is now lashing new england with torrential rain and heavy winds. live reports we will be having later on in the show. but, you know, alicia, i can't help but think back to that last speech. that president biden gave on afghanistan, and it was so widely panned, in fact, members of his own administration in the days after -- well, here comes the president. let's hear what he has to say. >> good afternoon. after a series of meetings throughout the weekend with my national security team, i want to update the american people on our ongoing evacuation effort in afghanistan. but first, i just was briefed by the fema administrator was here with me today, chris wall, about flash flooding in waverly, tennessee, and surrounding areas of tennessee. i want to begin by expressing my

deep con toll hence ares for the sudden and tragic loss of life due to this flash flood. i know we reached out to the community, we stand to offer them support. i've asked the administrator to speak to governor lee of tennessee right away, and we'll offer any assistance they need for this terrible moment. let me also say a few words what is now tropical storm, not hurricane, henri, which made landfall at approximately 12:15 this afternoon on rhode island are. i want to talk about our efforts to prepare and respond to this storm. we have been closely monitoring henri's progress and making the necessary preparations. fortunately, it's no longer a hurricane, it's been downgraded to a tropical storm, and we are taking it seriously though because the size and the storm's surge and the rainfall it's producing.

it's also, it's also impacting an area of the country that has already experienced heavy rainfall over the past several days. and while new englanders are used the dealing with some tough weather, this storm has potential for widespread consequences across the region with senate flooding -- significant flooding and power outages that could affect hundreds of thousands of people. and so we're doing everything we can now to help those states prepare, respond and recover. i can't think of anyone better to lead this operation than deanne griswell of fema. she was one of the key federal officials leading our response to superstorm sandy. she knows this area very, very well and knows what's needed better than anyone.

yesterday i talked with the administrator and each of the governors in the key states most likely to be affected. i urged them to take advantage of the assistance fema can offer in advance and committed to do everything we can to support their communities through the storm and afterwards. fema has prepositioned resources in the region to speed our ability to respond including food, water, life saving communications equipment as well as generators. in close cooperation with the electric call sector, preparations are in place to address significant power outages and resources and support that stays at the edge of this storm to be able to move quickly and to help. thousands of additional line crews and vegetation-clearing crews from other states and from canada are already heading toward the impacted states in new england ready to serve, move in as soon as is feasible. they'll clean up fallen trees,

help you tills retear d -- utilities as fast as possible, and i want the thank these crews for their commitment to helping their fellow citizens in time of need. i've already approved emergency declarations for rhode island, connecticut and which activates funds and means we can get in there and help as soon asking this extreme weather has moved through. we don't know the full extent of the storm's impact today, but we're acting to prepare for and prevent damage as much as possible and to speed help the affected communities so they can recover as quickly as possible. i also want to encourage everyone to do their part to prepare. follow the guidance from their local authorities. some places have already had heavy rains if winds and dangerous storm surges. henri is going to continue to move across much of the northeast, so it's important to monitor it crowly and be -- closely and be prepared in your home and your community. make sure you have the supplies

for your entire household including necessary medications and food, water, battery-powered radios in case of extended power outages. and don't forget that you may need to seek shelter while you're battling the delta variant and covid-19. so wear a mask and try the to observe social distancing. and everyone across the country, don't get caught by the next storm. get vaccinated. get vaccinated now. protect yourself and your family against can covid-19. it's going to be a vital part of emergency preparedness this year, for the remainder of this year. now let me turn to afghanistan. i continue to make progress since i spoke to you on friday. we have moved thousands of people each day by u.s. military aircraft and civilian charter flights. in a little over 30 hours this weekend, we've evacuated an

extraordinary number of people as i denail a minute, about 11,000 individuals. that number will change day-to-day as the air and ground operations in kabul vary. our first priority in kabul is getting american citizens out of the country as quickly and as safely as possible. at my direction, the state department continues to reach out to the remaining americans we have identified by phone, e-mail and other means to ascertain their whereabouts and their plans. we're executing the plan to move groups of these americans to safety and to safely and effectively move them to the airport compound. for security reasons, i'm not going to go into the details of what these mans entail, but i'll -- plans entail, but i'll say again what i have said before, any american that wants to get home will get home. we've also been evacuating the citizens of our nato allies and our partners including their dip 409 mats, their embassy --

diplomats, their 'em embassy stf who remain in afghanistan to get them back to their homes as well. and as we do this, we're also working to move our afghan allies who stood with us side by side and other vulnerable afghans such as women leaders and journalists out of the country. as of this morning, we've evacuated nearly 28,000 people since august the 14th on u.s. and coalition aircraft including civilian charters. bringing the total number of people we've evacuated since july to approximately 33,000 persons. in one 24-hour period this weekend, 23 u.s. military flights including 14 c-17s, 9 c-130 flights left kabul carrying 3,900 passengers. we we see no reason why this tempo will not be kept up. during the same period, our military facilitated another 35 charter flights carrying an additional 4,000 evacuees to

other countries that are taking them out. altogether we lifted approximately 11,000 people out of kabul in less than 36 hours. it's an incredible operation. let me be clear, the evacuation of thousands of people from kabul is going to be hard and painful no matter when it started, when we began. it would have been true if we had started a month ago or a month from now. there's no way to evacuate this many people without pain and loss of heartbreaking images you see on television. it's just a fact. my heart aches for those people how see. we are moving that we can move thousands of people a day out of kabul. we're bringing our citizens, nato allies, afghanis who have helped us in the war effort. but we have a long way to go. now, a lot could still go wrong. but to move out 30,000 people in

just over a week, that's a great testament to the men and women on the ground in kabul and our armed services. it also reflects the tireless diplomatic effort in order to keep a steady flow of planes a taking off of from kabul and maximize our evacuation capacity. we have quickly stood up an unprecedented global effort and established a series of processing stations in third countries. in short, we're not flying directly to the country, they're flying to these processing stations where we're working with more than two dozen countries across four continents. i've secured agreements, we've secured agreements with gulf -- excuse me, across the gulf, in central asia and in europe including processing centers in qatar, germany, kuwait, spain and elsewhere that allows us to sort and process these evacuees. this transit, these transit centers provide a safe place for the sib applicants and other

vulnerable afghanis and their families to complete their. paperwork while we conduct security screenings and background checks before they continue on to their final destination in the united states or another country, one of our nato allies as well. and so from asia to africa, from europe to the western hemisphere if, nations are making generous offers to support resettlement efforts. and i've been in personal contact with the leaders from many countries including qatar, italy, spain, germany, the uae and others. they're making vital contributions. to thank them for their support and to discuss how we can continue to coordinate our efforts in afghanistan moving forward is the reason why when i continue in contact. and i want to again thank all of our partners for their continued, for continuing to stand together. we've also activated the first stage of what's referred to as the civil reserve air fleet to help with the onward movement of evacuees from these transit centers.

our military aircraft and others will get them to these center, but then we're going to get the civil reserve fleet. it's a program that's designed and was designed in the wake of the berlin airlift after world war ii to use commercial aircraft to augment our airlift capacity. this is a voltaire program for our commercial airlines, and we're grateful for those airlines and the u.s. carriers who are supporting us. this will only use 3 or 4 planes from each of the major carriers, so there should be know effect or minimal effect on on commercial air travel, and we'll stay in close communication with our partners to mitigate any impact. these civil reserve flights will be helping dog facilitate the safe mobility of people to transit centers and to the united states or to a third country. none of them will be landing in kabul. now, the american aircraft part of this will not be going to any country but the united states.

as this effort unfolds, i want to be clear about three things. one, planes taking off from kabul are not flying directly to the united states. they're landing in u.s. military bases and transit centers around the world. number two, at these sites where they're landing, we are conducting thorough scrutiny, security screening for everyone who is not a u.s. citizen or a lawful permanenting resident. anyone arriving in the united states will have undergone background check. number three, once screened and cleared, we will welcome these afghans who have helped us in the war effort over the last 20 years to their new home in the united states of america. because that's who we are. that's what america is. you know, i've been touched by the outpouring of support that we've seen from communities, organizations across america. mobileizing to support these

efforts. so many of these afghans stood bravely by u.s. troops in afghanistan, and now the united states -- including veterans groups, refugee settlement agencies, business organizations and so many others, are standing with our afghan allies. it exemplifies the best of america. and i want to say again just how difficult this mission is and how dangerous, the dangers it poses to our troops on the ground. the security environment is changing rapidly are. there are civilians crowded at the airport, although we've cleared thousands of them. we know that terrorists may seek to education lot the situation -- exploit situation and target innocent afghans or troops. we're maintaining a constant vigilance to monitor and disrupt threats from any source including the likely source being isis, isis k, the afghan

fleet referred to as isis k. but we're under no illusions about the threat. i said on friday isis k is a sworn enemy of the taliban, and they have a history of fighting one another. but every day we have troops on the ground, these troops and innocent civilians at the airport face the risk of attack from isis k from a distance even though we're moving back the perimeter significantly. we're working hard and as fast as we can to get people out. that's our mission. that's our goal. and our determination to get every american citizen home and to evacuate our afghan allies is unwavering. we continue to see not only the enormous scope and scale of the effort, we will see the individual lives that are affected. the families that are desperate to get home to their loved ones in america, the communities of veterans who have mobilized to try to help their former

interpreters get to safety. the frightened afghans aren't sure what to do. it's heartbreaking. we're all seeing. we see it, we feel it. you can't look at it and not feel it. nothing about this effort is easy. but the women and men of the united states armed forces are acting bravely and with professionalism and with a basic human compassion. i want to offer my profound thanks to our service members on the ground in ca july to all those at u.s. bases around the world who are welcoming and caring for these evacuees. all the diplomats and civil servants who are working around the clock to rescue american citizens, the citizens of our allies, our after a began partners, vulnerable afghans such as a women leaders and journalists, what we are doing is extraordinary. and you have to think of the -- all they're doing, thanks to the people from all over the world who are helping in this effort.

so i want to thank you, and i'll keep you informed every day as we move forward. may god protect our too muchs and our diplomats -- troops and diplomats who are serving in harm's way. and i'll take a few questions. darlene from the associated press. >> mr. president, thank you. we're nine days away from the august 31st deadline. will you extend that deadline or what is your thought process on extending the evacuation operation? >> there are discussions going on among us and military about extending. our hope is we will not have to extend, but there are going to be discussions, i suspect, on how far along we are in the process. >> mr. president? if mr. president? if. >> mario parker, bloomberg. >> thank you, mr. president. just to piggyback off, so the g7 -- [inaudible] a larger or a longer american

presence past august 31st deadline, what will -- [inaudible] >> i would tell them that we'll see what we can do. look, we are working closely with the g7. most of the leaders of the g7, i'll be doing a conference with them i think tuesday, i'm not certain, and we'll have that discussion. but we are, we already or have helped get out diplomats from other countries. we've already helped get out citizens from other countries, and we'll continue to do that. >> mr. president, it sounded like you been sending operations into kabul outside of the airport. is this correct? >> what i'm not going to do is talk about the tactical changes we're making to make sure we maintain as much security as possible. we have constantly -- how can i say it -- increased rational access to the airport where where more folking can get there more safely. it's still a dangerous operation, but i don't want to go into the details of how we're

doing it. >> mr. president? >> mr. president? >> andrew from the wall street journal. >> thanks, mr. president. our force on the ground -- [inaudible] having trouble getting to the airport. u.s. embassy staff, some of the -- that are afghans -- [inaudible] make it into the airport as well. why isn't the u.s. doing more to allow afghans into the airport and assure access to the airport, and are you setting up an extended perimeter around the airport to help keep that access? >> number one, i think you're going to see they're going to yet out. number two, we have a number of changes, including extending access around the airport and the safe zone. and we've done a number of things. again, i don't want to get into the detail, but the fact is that more and more of the groups we urgently want to get out of afghanistan starting with

american citizens expect folks who worked in the embassies and personnel with our allies wells the afghans -- as well as the afghans who helped them and worked in those embassies, as well as those who helped on the battlefield as well, we are working diligently to make sure we're going to increase the ability to get them out. we've changed the gate operations, a whole range of things, and that's why we've been able to significantly increase the number of people that we're bell getting out. >> and will the taliban agree to extend past the -- [inaudible] >> they've been cooperative in extending some of the perimeter. that remains to be seen whether we ask that question. ed, fire away. >> actually following up andrew's question. because the united states is now going with the taliban -- negotiating with the taliban, do you now trust them? and then the question on the public response. a new poll out today shows americans wanted to withdraw from afghanistan, but they disapprove of the way you've

handle it. the poll also found based in part on what's transpired over the past week, the majority of americans -- and forgive me, i'm just the messenger -- no longer consider you to be competent, focused or effective on the job. >> i haven't seen that poll. >> it's out there. cbs this morning. what would you say the those americans who no longer think you're up to the job? >> look, i had a basic decision to make; i either withdraw america from a 20-year war that depending whose analysis you accept cost us $300 million a day for 20 years who you know i carry this card we me every day and who, in fact, where we lost 2,448 americans dead and 20,722 wounded. i either increased the number of

forces we keep there and keep that going, or i end the war. and i decided to end the war. as i said the other day, you know, the only reason we're in afghanistan is this is a place from which bin laden attacked the united states of america. had this been in another middle eastern country where he could have easily have moved from, we would have never gone to afghanistan. so the question is when is the right time to leave, where are our national interests, where where do they lie. and the with the that we are in a situation where we cannot recognize that terrorism has metastasized around the world and the need for us to focus on other parts of the world which create an even greater danger of an al-qaeda-like operation beginning, it can't be ignored. and we are, as you well know because you follow this, we are a number of places where we're doing that without permanent american forces there.

so i, i think when this is over the american people will have a clear understanding of what i did, why we did it. and -- but, look, that's the job. my job is to make judgments. my job is to make judgments no one else can or will make. i made them, i'm convince ised i'm absolutely correct in not deciding to send more young women and men to war, a foreign war that, in fact, is no longer -- >> on the question of the taliban though, are they -- do you trust them now that you have to negotiate them? >> i don't trust anybody, including you. i love you, but there's not a lot of people i trust. look, the taliban has a, taliban has to make a fundamental decision. is the taliban going to attempt to be able to unite and provide for the well-being of the people of afghanistan which no one group has ever done since

before, for hundreds of years, and if it does, it's going to need everything from additional help in terms of economic assistance, trade and a whole range of things. the taliban has said, we'll see whether they mean it or not, they're seeking legitimacy. they're seeking legitimacy to determine whether or not they will be recognized by other countries. they have told other countries as well as us they don't want us to move our diplomatic presence completely. so all of this is all just talk now. all just talk now. and so so far taliban has not taken action against u.s. forces. so far they have, by and large, followed through on what they said in terms of allowing americans to pass through and the like. and i'm sure they don't control all of the forces. it's a ragtag force, and so we'll see. we'll see whether or not what they say turns out to be true.

but the bottom line is this, folks, look, at the end of the day if we didn't leave afghanistan now, when do we leave? another ten years? if another five years? another year? i'm not about to send your son or your daughter to fight in afghanistan. i don't see where that is in our overwhelming interest. and to talk about how our interests are going to be impacted, let me tell you, you're sitting in beijing or you're sitting in moscow, are you happy we left? [laughter] they love nothing better for us to continue to be bogged down there, totally occupied with what's going on. so the idea this is, i think that history's going to record this was the logical, rational and right decision to make. so thank you all so very much. [inaudible conversations] >> -- against the taliban in the british are calling for sanctions. they're going to discuss

sanctions on tuesday. would you support sanctions against the taliban -- [inaudible] on friday you mentioned harsh conditions if they misbehave. >> the answer is, yes. it depends on the conduct. >> [inaudible] alicia: president biden there from the roosevelt room giving an update on the situation in afghanistan and the u.s.' handling of it. we're going to bring in benjamin hall here to continue this discussion. if benjamin, a couple of things really stood out to me, and a lot of it -- and, you know, in addition to his listing of all the things that the u.s. has accomplished were the words or he had about the taliban, about how they have agreed to expand the perimeter at the airport, how they have to keep their word. however, we know from trey yingst's reporting on the ground and all of the pictures and videos that we have seen that that's still not a matchup. there's a tremendous disconnect there from the reality on the

ground and the words coming out of the biden administration if including the president himself. benjamin: yeah, absolutely. he talked about the taliban being cooperative, working with them, and i think what many people would have wanted to hear there was more of a strong line taken with them. if the taliban dare to do anything to our troops, if americans are harmed, one hair on their head, we will react. there was no warning there to the taliban, and i think that's something people were looking for. certainly, we've been speaking to people earlier in the day who wanted to see a tougher line taken. and also that point about the august 31st deadline, very vague about whether it could be extended, but we've heard from multiple people who have said it's simply not possible to get everyone out in time, so what happens after that, i'm not sure. it was a bit longer than the speech he gave on friday. i would certainly say that. i would say it was more what he didn't than what he did. there was a lot of talking about the great numbers who were flying out but no mention of the

people who cannot get to the airport. our own trey yingst was just there. people cannot get into the airport. they are still taking away people's papers, still taking away some u.s. passports, we've heard, and he was a bit vague on whether american troops would be going out to get american citizens. he certainly say that he didn't want to talk about operational, so perhaps that is now happening, we just don't know. let's bring in jacqui heinrich who is standing by at the white house right now and get her thoughts on that. >> reporter: a couple of things stood out to me. you know, the president seemed to take on this criticism that the u.s. did not do enough to move americans and allies out of afghanistan before we started pulling back the troops and drawing down our military presence there. he reiterated a point you've made several times saying this was going to be hard and painful no matter when we started and that we would be seeing these kinds of images which he said are heartbreaking and his heart

aches to see what kind of pain and loss we're watching on tv. that being said, he did sort of debt get a little bit more detail on what efforts we're taking now to get people out. the last time we spoke to the president, the last time he spoke to the country it was unclear whether he would use american troops to try and breach that perimeter at the airport and go out and bring people who were unable to get to the flight if, to the airport. he would not go into the tactical changes that have been made, but he did indicate that the military's making some different moves. we know from the pentagon that a helicopter went out and got 1 is 69 americans in just -- 169 americans in just one case, and he also mentioned other efforts, acting the civil reserve air fleet to try to transfer some of those people from the third countries to the u.s., making sure to reiterate that anyone who lands on american soil has been vetted which is a concern that some people had raised, and we had not been able to get clear answers on exactly what

kind of vetting was happening because all this is happening in realtime. understand now that anyone who lands on american soil will have gone through a background check. he did also mention that terrorists are seeking to exploit the situation, and that was a challenge because we talk so much, the president talks so much, his administration's talked so much about if anyone does anything to harm our troops, we're going to respond with overwhelming force. that's a difficult thing to do when you have citizens sort of mixed in to together outside the airport, you have americans, allied citizens, after a began refugees -- afghan refugees and if some sort of terror attack happens, how do you strike back when you have so many civilians who would be in the mix of that? so he gave a little bit more operational detail on what we're doing to avoid that, saying people are being moved to safer locations to be able to get to the airport and on these coordinated flights with the military. he also left the door open again to extending that august 31st

deadline. he said that no matter what, anyone who wants to come home will be able to, and he said leading up til now we thought we'd be able to do it by august 31st. the last time we heard him speak he said maybe we'll look at this day-to-day, and he seemed to leave the door open to that. he also took on the criticism that the only reason we're in afghanistan is to somehow fight al-qaeda. he said last week -- was really criticized for saying al-qaeda's gone from afghanistan when we hear from the pentagon that they do have a presence there. he made the case once again for our national interest to be els where to fight terrorism saying bin laden is no longer in afghanistan, so our interest should be in other areas where terrorism has metastasized. but he also took on the criticism that, one of the questions targeted about how americans are disapproving of this. he said that this is a tough decision he had to make x

history show that it was the right decision. he still stands squarely behind that and went into just a little bit more affirmation that he thinks this will be able to be completed fully. benjamin? benjamin: yeah. thanks very much is, jack key. i think we still have congressman brad wenstrup. congressman, we were talking earlier in the leadup to this. you were listening to that speech, of course. did you hear from the president there what you were hoping for? >> well, let me, let me say this, americans will do great things in times of need. especially if given the opportunity and the resources. i'm glad the people are being evacuated. we wanted to see that. but the timing is not appropriate for what, the way it could have been, and we have to keep that in mind when listening to the words of the president. i'm glad he talked about people and gave precautions to people that are maybe suffering from hurricane, he talked about covid during that, and appreciate

that. but at the same time, we have coming across our southern border people that are unencumbered crossing our border. they're not being tested, they're not being vaccinated. george is bush said after 9/11, and i remember it very well, he said, if you are a terrorist, we're coming after you. if you house a terrorist, we're coming after you. that's the situation in afghanistan as of today. he talked about getting our people out is our first priority. unfortunately, it wasn't his first priority. his first priority was getting out and then worrying about the u.s. people examine those that have served us so well. we asked for this in a bipartisan fashion back in april. we made it a priority by members of congress. we passed laws that enable them to do it more effectively. it wasn't done that way. and it wasn't done then, it hasn't -- it wasn't done on july 5 when we left bagram. i hope that our future plans are outside the wire is that we can

get americans safely out. when he said the chaos that exists is just a fact, it's gonna happen no matter when i do it, that isn't necessarily true. there was a better way. if you just look at the 1973 paris peace accords, there was a decent interval in the negotiations to allow the evacuation of americans and those that were in danger. the fall of saigon didn't happen for two more years. i'm happy with the processing stations. thank you. but i'd rather it would have been done right and done sooner. but i do think those countries -- thank those countries that are participating now, and i think that the civilian reserve fleet is a wonderful thing. i mean, i flew commercial to kuwait before entering iraq when i deployed to iraq. but we're doing this out of desperation if instead, and that's a problem. on to the deadline, extending the deadline, we'll see, he said. but i'm pretty sure he wants it done before the symbolic date of

9/11. so i'm glad to see also we're working with our nato partners. >> many felt betrayed and abandoned during this process. we need to be reestablishing confidence around the world about who america is and what we're capable of doing. one question he got was about the poll, he laughed at it. well, you know, i think americans are concerned with the process, and they're concerned with competence. and they were okay with the withdrawal, but they wanted done right. and, you know, so he says he doesn't trust a lot of people including the reporter. well, according to that poll, i guess the feeling is mutual for many americans. so the question -- alicia: congressman? if. >> yes? if. alicia: this is alicia acuna. as you heard, the president defended his decision to leave afghanistan, and he said history will show that he made the right decision. what he did not address though was the criticism globally and

bipartisan fashion here in the united states is the how. and on tuesday the g7 meeting is going to, no doubt, bring this up. the how. >> yeah. and they should bring that up. and they should have their concerns. and you're right, he says he's going to have the meeting, and it'll be addressed. but as you reported earlier and have been reporting he said that, oh, the other country, our allies are all fine with what we're doing. well, they're not. they're greatly concerned. they feel betrayed. and as he mentioned trust, the trust is broken. whether he recognizes it operate, that trust is broken. but i can tell you our american military would love to reestablish that trust and do what's best for america to keep america safe and show it in other places around the world like taiwan. and, you know, he mentioned that china and russia love us staying there? well, probably to some degree they do, but they love even more the way that we're leaving and the circumstances on the ground.

he said the taliban wants to see if other countries will recognize them. is he saying that? if that we recognize them as a lety mate government? it was a coup. does he recognize them as a legitimate government? chai and and -- china and russia do. these are very concerning things to hear the president say, and i hope there are better days ahead. benjamin: on friday one of the big criticisms of president biden's speech was when he insisted there was no al-qaeda left in afghanistan, then he was contra distributed by both the secretary of state and the secretary of defense. that wasn't touched on today, and i think it does raise the question of whether or not there should still be any residual force there. what are your views on that knowing now from the administration that there are still remnants of al-qaeda and have been embedded with the taliban for some time? >> so the question is, on 9/11/2021 will america and the free world peel -- feel more

secure against terrorist threats than they did one year ago or twenty years ago? we can turn this thing around. we need to visibly show our strength, we need to reestablish trust in the world community and not let our adversaries take advantage. we can do this if allowed. right now they are winning. alicia: and, congressman, as we hear that americans are being allowed to get to the gates and go through the gates and that the taliban is allowing that, we're not seeing that or hearing that from reporting, and we're running out of time here, but with i just want to get your words because there are americans who are dependent on the taliban letting them through. >> well, i'm looking forward to the intelligence briefs that we're going to get this week. but listening to your reporting from people on the ground that are saying that this just isn't matching up with what the president says, that's what we

can rely on at this point. i do want to get into a secure facility, and i want to have the answers, and i want them to be honest answers of what's actually taking place on the ground. benjamin: congressman, we've got about 30 seconds left. what should happen if an american citizen is harmed by the taliban in kabul? >> what should happen is what i think i heard you suggest, and it was what i would want to hear which we've heard from previous administrations. you harm one american, you do one thing to one american, and we are going to come after you, and you will pay for it. under the previous administration, they were not following the rules -- benjamin: congressman, i'm afraid we are out of time. thank you so much for sticking around with us. alicia, it's been great being with you. "the big sunday show" is coming up next. ♪ ♪ n called too exclusive. because we only serve those who honorably served. all ranks, all branches, and their families.

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>> hello everyone. welcome back to "the big sunday show" we begin with a fox news alert. president biden addresses the nation about the chaos ongoing in afghanistan he began the speech talking about the tropical storm and a little bit about covid vaccines and then on to afghanistan. he took questions and responded