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they will go forward. >> neil: dave sears, retired navy seal commander. thanks for your service. we hate to hear from the commander-in-chief what was behind this decision and what will happen after the decision when our troops are gone, when our people are gone. many more afghans. >> hello everybody i'm jesse watters along with mick doubt, jesse, dana perino and greg gutfeld. 5:00 o'clock in new york city and this is the five. >> president biden set to speak at any moment now. the commander in chief letting the taliban dictate the temples of us foreign policy and caving to the terror group's red line. just today warned us forces there would be no extension. president biden will be sticking by as august 31st deadline for
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full troop withdraw from afghanistan, flying in the face of our allies who want us to stay longer until all friendly forces are safely out of the country. in a group of gop lawmakers rippinging into president biden over that decision. >> it will be a stain on this presidency, and particularly after the decision made today and what we heard today, he will have blood on his hands. our allies no longer trust us, and our enemies no longer fear us. >> everything about this situation that we're in now i wills joe biden's fault. it's reckless for our country and it's disastrous taking place. it's his responsibility. >> this is not politics. nobody wants to be standing up in front of you talking about this. this is a failure. >> and talk about gas lighting the entire country. the white house says americans are not being stranded in kabul, but take a listen to this
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account. >> we are stranded. we can't get to the airport. when we try to get to the airport we get beaten up or are afraid for our lives. i don't know how things are going to go. but i really need our president to really, really consider this serious. we are in danger. we are in danger, mr. president, please help us. >> just heart breaking to listen to that. so president coming out any minute now, dana perino, after listening to that poor woman, just makes you almost cry. >> it's one of many, many, many, possibly thousands that are going through the same thing. so the president's planning on speaking at any moment now. i thought it was curious that all day long this speech has moved. >> yeah. >> it was going to be at 2:00 then 3:30 then 4:00 then the white house press secretary briefed at 3:30 and then he's going to give the speech. i assume that means he's not going to be taking questions and that he will let it sit with her. just one other thing, as he
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gives this speech, one, there's the actual situation on the ground, there is the anger from our veterans who feel completely let down and they're -- i talked to one who said he was going between rage and grief all day long, and then you have the politics of it which we have plenty of time to talk about it but i would imagine one of the reasons it's late and here he comes now at 41%. >> let's listen to the president of the united states here from the white house. >> before i update you on the meeting that i had with the leaders of the g7 earlier today i want to say a word about the progress we're making on the build back better a gender here at home. just got off the telephone with the leaders in the house. today the house of representatives have taken significant steps toward making historic investment that's going to transform america, cut taxes for working families and
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position the american economy for long-term,growth. when i became president, it was clear that we had to confront an immediate economic crisis, most significant recession we've had since the depression. or at least since johnson. but we, but we weren't going to -- but that wasn't going to be enough. we also had to make some long-term investments in americans and america itself. the first thing we did was to write and pass the american rescue plan, and it's working. our economy has added four million jobs in my first six months in office. economic growth is up to the fastest it's been, the fastest rate in 40 years. and unemployment is coming down. right now, our economy growth is leading the world's advanced economies. but to win the future, we need to take the next step. today, the house of representatives did just that. that, today's vote in the house allowed them to consider my build back better agenda, abroad
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framework to make housing more affordable, bring down the cost of prescription drugs by giving medicare the power to negotiate lower prices for drugs, make elder care more affordable, provide two years of free universal, high quality pre k and two years of free community college. provide clean energy tax credits. continue to give the middle class families the well-deserved tax cut for day care and healthcare that they deserve, allowing a lot of women to get back to work primarily. and provide significant monthly tax cuts for working families with children through the child care tax credit. these investments are going to lower out-of-pocket expenses for families and not just give them a little more breathing room. in addition, we're going to make long overdue much-needed investments in basic hard infrastructure of this nation. this scenario where we have broad bipartisan agreement to invest in our antiquated roads,
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highways, business, transit, drinking water systems, broadband, clean energy, environmental cleanup making infrastructure more resilient to the clay mate crisis and so much more. and this is all paid for. instead of giving every break in the world to corporations and ceo's -- by the way, 55 of our largest companies in america pay $0 in federal taxes on more than $40 billion in profit last year. we can ask corporations and the very wealthy just to pay their fair share. they can still be very wealthy. they can still make a lot of money. just begin to pay their fair share so we can invest in making our country stronger and more competitive. create jobs and lift wages and lift the standard of living for everyone. the bottom line in my view is we're a step closer to truly investing in the american people, positioning our economy for long term growth and building an america that out-competes the rest of the
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world. my goal is to build an economy from the bottom up and the middle out, not just the top down. and that's what we're on our way to doing. i want to thank speaker pelosi who was masterful in her leadership and leader hoyer and whip cliburn and chairman denos yo the entire house leadership team for the hard, would, dedication and determination to bring people so we can make a difference in people's lives. i also want to thank every democrat in the house who worked so hard the past few weeks to reach an agreement and supported the process for the house for jobs and infrastructure plan, the build back better. there were differences, strong points of view. they're always welcome. what is important is that we came together to advance our agenda. i think everyone who did that -- i think everyone, everyone who did it, was there. look, i also want to thank everyone who voted to support the john lewis voting rights act, you know, advancing -- it's
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an act to restore and expand voting protections, to prevent voter suppression, and to secure the most sacred of american rights. the prior to to vote freely, the right to vote fairly and the right to have your vote counted. the house has acted. testimony senate also has to join them to send this important bill to my desk. and the senate has to move forward on the people's act, critical legislation to protect our democracy and the right to vote. we need both of those, though election bills. let me now turn top afghanistan. i met this morning with my counterparts in the g7, as well as heads of the united nations, nato and the european union. i expressed my thanks for the solidarity we have seen as we've stood up an unprecedented global effort. i updated our partners on the significant progress we made in the past ten days.
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as of this afternoon, we helped evacuate 70,700 people just since august the 14th. 75,900 people since the end of july. just in the past 12 hours, another 19 us military flights, 18 c-17s and one c-130 carrying approximately six,four00 evacuees and 31 coalition flights carrying five,600 people have left kabul. just in the last 12 hours. a total of 50 more flights, 12,000 more people, since i updated you this morning. these numbers are a testament to the efforts of our brave service women and men, to our dep mats on the ground in kabul, and to our allies still standing with us. and we had a productive discussion. there was strong agreement among the leaders both about the evacuation mission underway as well as the need to coordinate our approach to the afgan -- to
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afghanistan as we move forward. first, on evacuation, we agreed that we will continue to close -- our close cooperation operation. in addition, i've asked the pentagon and state department for contingency plan to adjust the timetable should that become necessary. i'm determined to ensure that we complete our mission, this mission. i'm also mindful of the increasing risks that i've been, i've been be briefed on, and the
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need to factor those risks in. they're real and significant challenges we also have to take into consideration. the longr we stay, starting with the acute and growing risk by a group known as isis k. in afghanistan which is the sworn enemy of the taliban as well, every day we're the ground is also day we know isis k is seeking to attack the airport and attack both us allied forces and innocent civilians. additionally, thus far, the taliban has been taking steps to work with us so we can get our people out. but it's a ten with us situation. we're already had some gun fighting breakout. we run a serious risk of it breaking down as time goes on. second, the g7 leaders and the leaders of the eu, nato and the un all agreed that we will stand united in our approach to the
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taliban. we agreed the legitimacy of any future government depends on the approach it now takes to uphold international obligations, including to prevent afghanistan from being used as the base for terrorism. and we agree that none of us are going to take the taliban's word for it. we'll judge them by their actions. and we'll stay in close coordination on any steps we take moving forward in pops the taliban's behavior. at the same time, we renewed our humanitarian comment to the afgan people and supported a proposal by the secretary general of the united nation persist led an ins national response with unfettered humanitarian access in afghanistan. third, we talked about our mutual obligation to support refugees and evacuees currently fleeing afghanistan. the united states will be a leader in these efforts and we'll look to the international
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community and to our partners to do the same. we're already seeing our allies' commitment. they're bringing their -- they're bringing to their countries the afgans who served alongside their forces as translateers or in their embassies, just as we're bringing to the united states those afgans who worked alongside our forces and diplomats. we're continuing that effort. we're conducting thorough security screening in the intermediate stops they're making for anyone who is not a u.s. citizen or a lawful permanent resident of the united states. anyone arriving in the united states will have undergone a background check. and, and we must all work together to resettle thousands of afgans who ultimately qualify for refugee status. the united states will do our part, and we are already working closely with refy organizations to rebuild a system that was purposely destroyed by my predecessor. finally, we agreed to stay
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vigilant against terrorist threats that have metastasized around the world. we went to afghanistan with our allies in 2001 for clear reasons. one, to get the people who attacked us on 9/11 and to get oh sam a bin laden and to make sure afghanistan was not used again as a base from which to attack the united states or our allies. we achieved that objective. we delivered justice to bin laden more than a decade ago. but the current environment looks different than it did in 2001 and we have to meet the challenges we face today. we run effective counter-terrorism operations around the world where we know terrorism is more of a threat than it is today in afghanistan without any permanent military presence op the ground. and we can and will do the same thing in afghanistan with our over the horizon counter-terrorism capable.
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our partners on our enduring counter-terrorism mission will be an essential piece to our strategy. in short we all, all of us agreed today that we're going to stand shoulder to shoulder our closest partners to meet the current challenges we face in afghanistan just as we have for the past 20 years. we're acting in consultation and cooperation with our closest friends and fellow democracies and i want to again thank all of our allies and partners around the world who have rallied in up 30r9 of our mission. we ended the conversation today with a clear statement on all of our parts. we are going to stay united, locked at the hip in terms of what we have to do. we'll get that done. and tomorrow, i've asked secretary blinken to give you an update and a detailed report on exactly how many americans are
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still in afghanistan, how many we got out and what our projection is. so thank you again, and god bless you and may god protect our dip mates and all those in harm's way. >> can you guarantee -- >> again the president of the united states not taking questions after addressing the country first in a bizarre turn of events about build back better, and then voting rights legislation, acting like the afgan crisis is just one of many of your typical things the white house deals with on an average week finally getting into the g7 conversations he had, said everything was going great with this evacuation and then did a big number dump about how many flights have gone out and how the allies are working closely together. that just does not square with pretty much every single bit of reporting which we've seen and says isis could be running us out of the airport and the deadline, 31st, is going to stick as long as the taliban lets us do this, that, and the
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other thing. dana, this was meaningless address to the american people. how would you frame it? >> well, one, i dreamed a little when he started with build back better. i get it, the democrats passed in the house with their razor thin margin $3.5 trillion spending that will saddle you for the rest of your lives. but other than that, you cannot try to say your domestic agenda is more important than the international crisis you're supposed to be handling. so again every time he's spoken this week. i have a great deem of respect for the office of the presidency and the president himself. when he speaks and reading the tell prompter, are you internal lying these words and understanding? because the other thing that's frustrating since last friday pointed out again and again, he says these things or the press secretary has said things that then you are looking at the people you're talking to on the ground, like i am here, he's not on the ground but trying to help
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people there, they're not getting any help. you are actually hearing things that are completely the opposite of what they're saying. and when he talks about 707,000 have been taken out, a lot was by our allies. our allies are frustrated the and for boris johnson to call for a g7 meeting and for him to say yeah it's all great. i'll also say he already has terms for recognizing the taliban's legitimacy. you listen to when he said, we're not going to take their word but here are these things they need to do. and, you know, i don't also know about this isis threat. there are reports and we can ask jennifer griffen when we have a chance. talking about isis, and i don't want them anywhere, but is that basically a way for us to get out of the airport sooner than we actually need to before we can get all of our people out. 4,000 americans have been taken out. and the president said we'll
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tell you tomorrow how many there are. i don't think they necessarily know and i understand why they might not know. but to me that was subpar to say the least. >> he seems very focused on the danger of staying a few days longer, but not focused on the danger that americans face, greg, who are stranded behind enemy lines. and he just hasn't met the moment. >> he's, he's like a fading talent that just had to play all the greatest hits, right? he went up on stage just now, started with the free stuff, look at all these free things, they he did the climate crisis of course. then he did corporate taxes, right? what did he say? pay your fair share and then the voter suppression. all of these things are there, kind of like the way that they can say, look, i'm still president, this thing is just something else. >> right. >> but it also plays out, makes it look like he's trying to avoid the ole fan in the room. when i look at him, i don't
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blame him. i can't -- it's unfair to just blame him. we had 20 years. how did that happen? how did we have 20 years of this? because we need to explain that. we need to investigate that as well as this. because they're all linked together in this kind of this weird ambivalence toward americans in general who paid for this with blood and treasure, right? we had grifters and bureaucrats who basically took advantage of our wealth and our own kind of distraction with modern novel is the to let this happen. i also want to bring up what really chapped my hide, and i hate using that kind of language dana. but i'm going through this complex process of getting a handgun in new york city. i could have just joined the taliban. because it is easier to get guns from america being in the taliban than being a citizen of new york who's come under threat and all i want to do is get a
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permit for a gun and i say that we just hand over rockets, rifles, handguns, to the taliban, the new-improved taliban, like isis-k, sounds leak a serial. and then potentially, if you have the ca manned os after the deadline to rescue stranded americans, you're going to have to fend off the taliban as greg mentioneded, this armed to the teeth with our gear. it makes it that much harder. >> it's disgusting and that's a word i can say on television. people i've talked to are worried about our troops who are at the airport, that they're sitting ducks now. just a few things. jen psaki spoke before biden, that way she doesn't have to do cleanup for all the lies and the physical sis. >> didn't have to take questions. >> right. but what happened last friday, remember, he lied here, there, and everywhere about our allies, our al qaeda's gone from
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afghanistan and americans can get to the airport. so at least this delays the cleanup process until tomorrow. he actually lied out of the gate about the economy. he was talking about how bad the economy was when he took office. no, it wasn't. the recession ended in april of last year. he can't even get basic facts correct. but he has told so -- he seems to be allergic to the truth, to strength, to competence and reality. and i don't think we'll ever get a number of americans who are still in afghanistan, because that way, they can lie and say that all americans are out, this is the date, it's the date certain we're pulling our troops, yeah, let's celebrate. and it's a political win for me. that's the depth of disgusting that this administration is at right now. >> jessica, i want to ask you about what dana said. the president is not emotionally
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connecting with the country. he's not emotionally connected to this situation in afghanistan. he goes up there and he reads words, poll-tested phrases that you know he didn't write himself. and then he scrambles away without taking any questions. we need to hear the president off script. we need to see what his heart is feeling and you're not getting that at a tell prompter address like that. he looks cold, he looks heartless and then he runs away. >> well, i appreciate that you were listening to me yesterday, since i said what i want to see most of all is the empathizer in chief, the guy who wants this election at the time when it's very hard to beat a sitting president historically in the depths of a covid massacre because he was connecting with people and he was saying i understand, i feel your pain in all of these different ways and so i agree with you, i think emotional joe biden is the best joe biden. this is, if you're looking back on his career, this decision on foreign policy is not a
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surprise. he's on record over the course of decades having very similar reactions to kind of these forever war scenarios. there were a couple of things that stood out to me that i want more information on. this timetable adjustments, the potential for that, because we heard august 31st was a hard line but he said it's open to adjustments. what could that mean? i mean how many days is that, how many more troops is that? we've already start to withdraw. second the unified front which dana spoke to at the beginning. we know that isn't the case, boris johnson is not outspoken and tony blare not in office ripped him a new one and uncle merkel as well and this is something we all got into together. like for better or worse, and they have been responsible for a lot of the evacuations. i do want to address, though, the republicans who spoke this morning like congressman mccall saying this is all joe biden's fault and what greg was talking about. this did begin as donald trump's plan. and it was supposed to be
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may 1st versus august 31st. and i'm not hear to say like orange man bad and joe biden good, but this is not all joe biden. this is, you know, four presidents have been involved in this and he did on the first day when he started to pull out say i'm not going to push this onto a fifth president and this is important and we got 21 hundred people out in the last six hours, the largest air lift in u.s. history when that's done, allies are helping but those things do matter. there are things going right a missed all the chaos. >> right. i think bragging about the amazing airlift is totally detached from how this country feels about the situation. let's bring in jennifer griffen now. what's your reaction to what we just heard from president biden. >> i'm trying to sort through my reaction but the first thing i would say is that, whack continues to be amazing to me is that every time the president speaks, he sets a deadline that then the military has to scramble to adjust to meet. he doesn't seem to understand
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what it takes toss either evacuate people, the buildup, the time needed, the amount of people that he has promised that he was going to get out. he makes statements like all u.s. citizens will be evacuated from u.s. government doesn't even know how many americans are in afghanistan. when i hear the president talking about these so-called over the horizon capabilities, there are no over the horizon capabilities. those are empty words. we do not have any basis in the region where you can place drones, where you have intelligence officers. we now have no part ers in on the ground in afghanistan, other than the taliban, and how's that going to work in terms of over the horizon capabilities? the isis threat is real. every day that us troops are on the ground at the kabul airport they are a target, sitting ducks they know that. it is extraordinary that they have gotten 21,000 people out in the last 24 hours, up to 70,000,
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but the people they haven't gotten out are the people they promised to get out, americans, as well as those who were translateers who are carrying in their homes who we're getting videos of their families members being killed as the taliban closes in on them and the callousness of these sframs the white house when the president reads those statements and starts with a domestic agenda and then says oh, by the way, here's what's happening in afghanistan today, it is so detached from reality. but the reality is the american troops who are on the ground at the airport, who are having to turn back people at the airport, who are having to lift babies and women over the walls, who are breaking rules, at times, to get people in who are in need because the rules being sent from washington of who can come through the airport and the taliban blocking and now we have to ask mother may i to the taliban if we can get american
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citizens through their check points. it's so appalling. and it didn't have to be this way. this is -- president biden took this decision to go to zero. he announced a date, september 11th, of all days, as a withdraw date. the military pullso back in 11 n expected to move a hundred thousand people out of afghanistan in a matter of a week with. it's only been a week since the taliban took over and already we reported earlier today, the military's having to pack up because, once again, the president has given an arbitrary deadline, august 31st. why august 31st? and the taliban now has, you know, when they hear the president talk about a deadline, then of course they're going to make him hold to that. it's so baffling. and the people who are suffering are the afgans who are being left behind, the women and the children hop won't be able to go to school, and those poor american troops who are doing
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the best they can right now, being given an impossible task. i can't even imagine the trauma that they will -- they are experiencing right now and tck are getting what that message is and e-mails from their translateers who sacrificed their lives for more than a decade, many of whom, thousands of whom, we have not gotten out. we did not keep our promise and it is a national shame. >> well said jennifer. and we have a question from greg gutfeld, so please stick around. >> yeah. about like this mass weapons transfer, i'm trying to figure out if this stuff is actually accurate because it's so unbelievable. i mean, was this on purposes? was this accidental? was this part of a deal that we weren't aware of that, when we leave, we were going to leave all of this great equipment. sore is the equipment not workable? has it been disabled? like there's all these -- i
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can't -- i guess i can't believe the story. >> so, greg, i think you have to separate it into two parts. first of all when the u.s. military pulled out and left bagram air base and left a fully armed afgan national army of up to 300,000 troops they had to leave them with weapons. we had spent $85 billion over the years, there was bound to be stock piles of weapons, you couldn't take all the weapons with you and expect the afgan national army to fight the taliban. they didn't expect the afgan army to fold so quickly. my understanding is some of the more advanced equipment, the helicopters and a patchies, they pulled -- that was part of the retro grade when they left bagram. again, the expectation was the afgan national army would stand and would continue to fight off the taliban even if it were just a few months. so they were kind of caught between what do you do. otherwise, if you really knew the taliban were going to take over in 11 days, you would have blown up the weapons depose.
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but the problem is they wanted to give the afgan national army a chance, the real problem was when president ghani fled, that army fell apart. >> all right, we have another question here from dana. >> general, i'm curious about what you hear internally, if you can speak to it, at the pentagon, if there's frustration about being -- given a mission that they are not being given the resources in order to complete, and what also, you know, and when a president speaks, it's to all these different audiences, the american public, our allies, our adversaries but very specifically in a situation like this our troops. and i'm just asking what you're hearing in terms of reaction on that end. >> it's interesting because i didn't actually hear president biden speaking to our troops. there alleys always that catch phrase at the end god bless our troops but i didn't hear him addressing our troops, i didn't hear him addressing our veterans or any sort of empathy whatsoever. the military, as you know, they
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pa lieu smartly when they're given an order, get as much done as they possibly can as quickly as they can. i spoke to some former senior leaders here at the pentagon who have served in afghanistan and i spoke to one last night who would have been in this position and would have had to oversee this withdraw if he were still in command. and i asked, what is it -- is there anything the military's doing wrong from his point of view that he would have done differently and you can quibble about a few minor things, there's been the debate about whether you should have pulled out of bagram first and the way it was explained to me is we had a choice, and this goes back to the debating of the plan when the military was given the order basically to begin planning to withdraw back in april, and that was, do you stay at bagram, you are a going to need a big force protection to do that, are you going to be able to get those
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civilians and sivs to back rag, there's not as much infrastructure around there. or do you hope the afgan government's going to hold and you know within the next year or two you might have to withdraw citizens from kabul international airport. they opted for that. you know, there's pros and cons to but i think the -- i see they are working under a very difficult, almost impossible time line, particularly knowing that there is an isis threat. now, remember, what isn't explained all the time is that isis hates the taliban as much as they hate us. isis would love to embarrass the taliban, would love to fire on the airport so americans had to pull out under fire. there are a lot have different factors there. it is an extremely dangerous environment in which they are doing this. they knew that going into it, but the blythe manner which the
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president seems to have given the order to withdraw, it just boggles the mind that this was all known and this was all briefed to the president. i know there were heated discussions in the situation room about the humanitarian catastrophe that would follow going to zero. and in afghanistan. but once the president took that decision, the military had to do the best they could to ensure that there were no troop casualties and now to get as many people out as they can. but unfortunately, time is running out. >> jen, please stay with us. i want to play some sound and then go to you, about general keane from earlier. >> the troops are there to accept risk to get american citizens and afgan partners out. they are fully aware of that mission. i think we have leaders here who are absolutely risk a verse.
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they fear casualty. they fear somebody getting hurt seriously. they're ringing their hands over this. there's a lack of spine i think being shown here. >> this is biden's calculation as i see it. he is afraid to go past that deadline because anything goes after that point. you could have a live fire fight at the airport, have guys surrounded. who knows what could happen. you could have massive casualties, civilian casualties, he would then have to send in more men to the airport and that's a total mess. he would rather leave when the taliban tells him to on the 31st, just so he doesn't have to risk that situation happening. but by doing that, he strands thousands of our people beyond the wire. >> americans, our afgan allies and our friends, jennifer, to that point, the frustration i've heard from so many veterans,
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special ops, talking to them, even talking to a man who was -- flew a helicopter into the i drink valley first calvary air mobile, screaming about let us go in and do what we do. this is what we're trained for. we don't leave people behind. that's the frustration. . and president biden doesn't get that. >> well the problem is, after 20 years of war, there are so many people left behind. so what are you going to do, willy-nilly send every veteran, 1.2 million or 1.6 million who have served since 9/11 back in to get their translateers? you have to have some sort of organized effort. the pentagon tried to organize that effort but there have been various road blocks having to work with the state department, having to make sure bio metrics were done and that you knew who you were bringing out. there are constraints. i think back to the point that
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general jack keane made, it is clear this president and any president before him does not want another black hawk down, they do not want american troops getting surrounded by a crowd and getting dragged through the streets of kabul. it is understandable that it is the u.s. military's goal to get out without having any u.s. casualties and to not have to leave under fire with, you know, in any further embarrassment than what we've seen so far. so given those constraints, there is a reason that u.s. troops, for the most part, are staying behind the wire at the airport, and heroically have gotten 70,000 people out in a matter of weeks. but, that being said, the heartache being felt by the veterans and those who worked with translators who are sending in these calls for help, it's more than any of us can bear.
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but you can also understand when you're the president, commander in chief, you don't want to just send your forces out willy-nilly in the streets of kabul with a hostile force in charge of the government. >> jen, to that point, a good one about the veterans, and i talked to a guy, special forces, formally special forces there, he's been working around the clock doing fundraising trying to get the interpreters here. he said the pleading he is getting from them is almost breaking me. i want to play this, this is congressman michael walls from florida speaking earlier today at the house steps about this very issue and i think back to what you said about the president not addressing them. and it seems very disconnected but take a listen to what he said. >> when future american soldiers have to go back in to deal with the problem and deal with the encompetence of this administration, how many are
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going to die? now. because they're going to have to fight their way through our own equipment. our own dam equipment. >> so jen i just want to maybe get your take on that because there are several members of congress on both sides of the aisle that served and the anger is palpable, you had jason ceo a democrat saying the same thing. >> there is bipartisan outrage from anybody who ever served in afghanistan. you heard that. you heard the emotion from congressman walled. this is not a partisan issue. and what is particularly egregious is this exact same thing happened in in 2011 in iraq. vice-president joe biden oversaw this withdraw and three years later the u.s. military had to go in to fight isis. it is very hard to imagine how -- what's going to happen when the taliban begin allowing bases to be set up inside afghanistan. i mean, once again, these over
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the horizon capabilities, that requires some intelligence. that requires basing. we don't have that in that region. so that is a -- you know, that is a myth. and it's just -- we haven't talked enough about pakistan and how very dangerous nuclear pakistan is next door and you now have the taliban on the doorstep with an allied partner in nuclear pakistan. the amount of proliferation, and also, let's talk about how terrorists around the world are watching this and how is this different from the 1989 withdraw of the soviets that inspired al qaeda that then led to 9/11? i just don't understand why we don't understand that, of course, everybody would love to see not another american soldier be sent -- or marine sent to afghanistan. nobody wants to stay there a
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minute longer. however, there was a way to keep a lid on things with a very small footprint. we should have changed the narrative long ago. and i fault the media for this. this was not a forever war, this was not america's longest war. this was an intelligence outpost strategic as set that we needed several thousand american troops to guard in order to safeguard our homeland. >> jennifer, thanks so much. we really appreciate all those words, and i think the country understands exactly what you're saying. more on the five coming up. ♪ limu emu & doug ♪ oh! are you using liberty mutual's coverage customizer tool?
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>> welcome back. president biden speaking more today on the u.s. withdraw from afghanistan. and, of course, he took the time to blame his predecessor. >> the united states will do our part, and we are already working closely with refy organizations to rebuild a system that was purposely destroyed by my predecessor. >> scintillating. the remain for navy seal posting this blunt message on biden on taking ownership on what the president should be telling americans about afghanistan. >> i made some critical errors.
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namely, i underestimated the strength of the taliban, americans and our allies are all stranded. and that is my fault. but they will not be stranded for long. we will conduct rapid strike rescue missions until we have recovered and evacuated all our citizens, allies and friends. any person that interferes with these operations will be killed. >> you know, the break jesse you were saying that you think you could take him. you know, i don't know about that. >> i've said a lot of things in the break, greg, never that. that was inspiring, though. >> do you honestly believe that a president would ever say something like that? >> never. >> politicians -- >> politicians could never give their political opponents that kind of ammo and admit that they were wrong and joe biden's been in dc his whole life, so he is
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playing the long game. he sees this thing as, listen, november's around the corner, then it's going to be winter, people are going to be thinking about covid. i'm going to seal myself, not get emotional, go out and read the tell prompter and almost psychologically convince myself that it's not as bad as it seems and he thinks he can get through this. i don't think he can get through this. there's a huge disconnect right now between the people and the president and he's lost it. he's lost control and everybody can see that now. you set a deadline at the 31st. and then he says, oh, you know, we might have to move the deadline. so he sends the cia director to kabul to negotiate extending the deadline. taliban says screwoff. we're not going to extend the deadline and if you extend the deadline we will e start firing rounds and by the way, from now on we're not going to let anymore afgans reach the airport. joe biden says okay. we're going to keep to the deadline. he's boxed himself in.
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>> yep. >> there are no good options now and that's his calculation. he's trying to avoid the situation, we heard jennifer explain that. that's not the point. even adam schiff left the briefing saying there's no way we can get everybody out by the deadline, thousands will be trapped and politico reports americans are routinely denied access to the airport by the tal pan. a ca takes rower. >> jennifer this is truly a cluster rhymes with truck. however, i want to steal man joe biden to you and you tell me if there's an answer to this. everyone seems to have the right answer to this problem except for the administration. even the average cab driver goes, he got this backwards. like you don't have the troops leave first. you don't abandon the most important air base. everybody knows this. so did they already entertain these options and decide, this is the steal man part of it,
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that this would be the least worse option. that it could actually be worse than this and they just figured rip the band-aid off and get everybody out? i'm trying to figure out why they chose this path. >> i hope that's what happened and we have seen a number of people from the obama administration carry over to the biden administration who have said they're really unhappy with what's going on. veterans on both sides of the aisle, if you watch like seth bowl ten presence where he's apoplectic about the work going on and the work the people he commanded put in this place. obviously i haven't been in any of these rooms but maybe this is the least bad option. or someone said that. but we do know that wasn't what the intelligence community said. that wasn't what the people in the military were saying. so there has to be some inner circle that is operating kind of separated from the next layer of the circle. >> yeah. wow. >> and that is concerning. and there's something to jesse's point about what's going to go
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on and elections are always the things that matter here. a lot of presidents make decisions about foreign policy things that say this will blow, it is a not here right? and the way you can judge whether that's true is if your cab driver knows about it, if the person who is checking you out at a grocery store -- normal people. and everybody knows about what's going on right here and they're asking questions and they're wondering did it have to be this way. they're not wondering should we leave. they're wondering did it have to be this way. >> exactly. >> and that's the kind of thing that can stick to you over time. >> it is a as though dagen he snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. we could have left and redefined the mission which is what jennifer was talking about which makes total sense. >> just like the board. biden broke something that was fixed. >> right. >> i started talking about this on day one. we went from america first to america last, to america over. .
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this is a president who leads with shame, not strength. he has talked over and over about the system, systemically racist ugly boy poison of the racism in the united states. and we turn around and what do we do? we kowtow and genuflect and bow down to country after country that hates us. we rejoined the paris accord. why? did that benefit center city no, but we're ashamed of all the fossil fuels that we use. we tried to reopen negotiations about the iran nuclear deal at the same time you're taking a hammer to our energy independence here? and then we've had -- we've sat back and allowed countries like china to vomit the woke left wing pablum of the media and these liberals back in our face. tony blinken met in alaska in
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march with a chinese official and they were -- he was lecturing america about our sins and then tony blinken, the secretary of state, then approaches the un about having the human rights council lecture us on systemic racism. that's what they are. they are ashamed of america. rather than being proud, rather than words, may god bless america and may god have mercy on the souls of our enemy because we will not. joe biden is on the run, 'cause he's ashamed. >> you know, i wonder, dana, did general milley's take on white rage, is that going to help with the taliban. >> it will not. >> i didn't think so. >> i can answer that. general keane said something on air about a week ago. he said his entire career president biden has been relentlessly stubborn so that's one of the reasons why he would never say what jack 0 was
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suggesting but there is one president who, very hard thing to do and to bring to the american people and is extremely unpopular and eventually it worked and that was when president bush did the surge. talk about unpopular to say actually, we had problems, we've made mistakes and we need to send more troops in. and not even -- even the cabinet was like oh, no, we're not. and it took several months but we -- a couple of months for president bush and the general to convince the national security council that this was the right thing to do. eventually it ends up that it was the right thing to do. so there is a way to do this. and the other thing is, i do think americans understand risk and they can handle risk. they can handle the truth. so if there were to be something like what jacco suggested, we're going in there and going to get our people, if you say, there might be some casualties and we're going to do everything we can to make that happen, i just
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want to prepare you for what could happen, americans can accept that. but i think what they can't accept is this, and i think you see it in the numbers. the usa today poll that came out today, has the president at 41% approval total. only 32% of independence approve of the job he's doing. that number has dropped by like 30 points in just the past few months. and i think that it's only tuesday. i imagine he'll be in the 30s by the weekend. >> there you go. glad they buried that laptop story, eh? >> yeah. >> our final thoughts next. . .
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>> jesse: meanwhile, every single news outlet calls what's happening there is stranded. >> dana: one of the reasons they did that they didn't want the headline biden says americans you are on your own. biden strands americans in afghanistan like even though the practical effect might be true they don't want to be the ones to say it. >> jesse: final thoughts? >> jessica: it was actually along that note in exchange between peter doocy and jen psaki if you know somebody that's on the ground and needs help get me her number. >> jesse: much better answer than denying they are stranded. i'm agreeing with you. >> jessica: feels so weird. >> jesse: i'm never going to do it again spheels confusing. >> jessica: i hope everyone can get home and i hope that is true can you give people phone number, telegram, handle it and they can get out. >> kennedy: america first was never america alone it was acting in america's best interest first and foremost. that is exactly what joe bidenhd
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americans in afghanistan. our allies and our friends. >> greg: america first became america worst. >> jesse: right. i go i want to say happy 87th birthday to bob kenny who was down in fort benning who has a drink in his hand. he knows exactly what's going on in afghanistan. >> dana: happy birthday. >> jesse: that's it for for us. "special report" up next with bret. >> bret: happy birthday. good evening. welcome to washington. i'm bret baier. the it's speech on afghanistan was delayed for hours. white house kept pushing back the time all afternoon when the president finally did come out he started with his domestic agenda praising house democrats for passing a massive budgetary framework half way through his speech came the news americans stranded in afghanistan wanted to hear. whether americans would stay beyond deadline, american troops. president biden is holding firm, he said, to his timeline to get u.s. personnel out of

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