♪ ♪ >> sean: unfortunately that's all the time we have left tonight, please set your dvr, never miss an episode, please keep both our fellow americans in afghanistan, our allies that supported us, in your prayers buried in the meantime, let not your heart be troubled, laura ingraham, she takes it from here, she's got a great show as usual. >> laura: hannity, i love seeing ollie north, someone who knows a little bit about the national security implications about all of this and the humanitarian tragedy unfolded. >> sean: they won't listen. >> laura: no, they're not interested in solving certain problems, sean. thank you for your reporting on that and i am laura ingraham, this is "the ingraham angle" from los angeles tonight and we start with breaking news. u.s. and u.k. officials are warning americans near the kabul airport to leave immediately due to an undisclosed security threat. this happening as more than 19,000 people have been evacuated from afghanistan in

the past 24 hours alone. the biden administration has not disclosed how many are americans, but the secretary of state said today that roughly 1500 were left in the country. so the question is remaining tonight, how is the administration keeping track of the remaining u.s. citizens they are and how are we getting them out? and did a biden administration pay ransom for their safe passage or the promise of their safe passage? additionally, new information breaking that the evacuation includes unaccompanied minors whose families have been left behind. of course that poses its own set of problems for an america already struggling with tens of thousands of unaccompanied minors who have crossed our southern border. we are going to get some more on all of this with congressman jim jordan and former acting dhs secretary chad wolf. also coming up, the porn industry chalks up another win.

plus, raymond arroyo exposes a human tragedy unfolding right here in california. but first, as california goes, that's the focus of tonight's "angle." if you want to know where america is headed if we don't turn the tide against biden's socialist regime, look no further than right here in california. now, i brought the show here because americans need to understand where we are headed with the democrats in charge. for better or worse, the golden state has always led the way culturally, politically, and yes, morally. the american dream in many ways, it began right here in california. it wasn't just the land of sunshine, surfing usa, and beautiful people. but from the gold rush to the tech boom, it was a place that epitomized america's potential and limitless opportunities. but after a decade of democrats dominating every branch of government here, it's all

unraveling. today's california consists of a tiny sliver of super wealthy people, a growing underclass, and a rapidly-shrinking middle class that is set up and running for the exits. for all of their claims of being progressive, california though is among the most regressive states in the country. over the past decade, 80% of the state's jobs have paid under median wage, half of which are paid less than $40,000, and most are in poorly paid personal services or hospitality jobs. even at some of the state's most prestigious companies like google, many lower and even mid-level workers lived in mobile home parks. if others sleep in their cars. and thousands upon thousands of people now live on the streets. we are going to take you inside the homelessness crisis swamping the city later on in the show. now it's so bad that even democrat voters may finally be waking up.

>> let me work, let me pay my taxes but provide me with safety and not be accosted by two homeless people within a matter of 15 minutes. >> is this governor newsom's fault? >> i mean, technically... how could i even answer that? he's the leader. everything starts from the top and it goes down. >> laura: democrats should be very worried because they are defined the police crusade has led to skyrocketing crime. those women are feeling it. in l.a., murders are up nearly 24%, shootings are up almost 38%. in san francisco, where we were just earlier this week, shootings are up 105% during the first half of this year alone. so police are understaffed and outgunned and at the same time, we left left wing d.a.s to run amok, people like chester booting in san francisco and george gascon here in l.a., total travesty. of they are more focused on

letting the criminals walk free than seeing them locked up and off the streets. >> if people were arresting on probation, on the electronic ankle monitoring and it still doesn't deter them from going out and committing these crimes, because they know the district attorney won't do anything. >> so it's a revolving door of criminality? >> absolutely. oftentimes these people, if they are arrested, will be back out of jail before the police officers are done writing the police report. >> laura: it's not just a crime of the homelessness though. democrat policies from lockdowns to high taxes upon her small business owners and entrepreneurs as well. and when governor gavin newsom is asked to explain why so many people are leaving for the red states, he just gets dismissive and defensive. >> we had better health outcomes in florida and texas and better economic outcomes. i'm proud of the fact we actually have a housing policy and homeless policy for the first time in decades. everybody outside the state is

[bleep] about the state because of our success. >> laura: go back to plump jack winery, my friend. by the way -- and they also literally can't keep the lights on or water running here. under newsome, the state saw its first rolling blackouts since 2001 thanks in part to insane left-wing climate policies, faces a potential supply for shortfall of about 2.6 million households, forcing gruesome newsom to allow industrial facilities to run on diesel generators, that's great for the environment. up so much for going green. things are so desperate here that newsom is now paying people to cut down on energy use, i kid you not. but it's not billionaires like oprah winfrey up in montecito or mark zuckerberg who get hit with the democrats gross killing taxes, they don't care about that, they are so rich. it's the middle class that gets hit. california's energy and climate rigs are so crippling to working families, especially minorities, they've actually been dubbed the

green jim crow. and larry elder, the leading republican in the september 14th recall effort aims to turn all of this around. >> what your first thing you're going to do? >> to the extent that there are any statewide mandates for mask wearing upper vaccine for state workers, they are going to be repealed. i'm going to declare public emergency and homelessness, i'm going to declare a public emergency on water. >> laura: more from a candidate from his old neighborhood in just a few moments. what we are revealing to her tonight is cautionary tale. the media is showing for newsom and the teachers unions. if that's happening, but not of that can fact, the truth, the california is dying a slow and painful death. but a political backlash is still brewing. at the people still have the power to turn the tide. now is the time to throw the leftist bombs out and california can lead the nation once again

by sending a powerful message to the political establishment. push us too far and we will push you out. and that's the angle. in moments, my exclusive interview with california republican gubernatorial candidate larry elder, but first, newsom is not the only left-wing politician facing the ire of voters. l.a. d.a. george gascon, who i just mentioned, is under fire for his radical policies that have put the violent criminals above victims and their families. just ask my next guest, desiree andre, a leader in the recall gascon movement. her son was brutally murdered back in 2018. he was repeatedly stabbed, beaten, and then he was thrown off a cliff, his body was found two days later. and now, thanks to gascon's "reformed postcode, none of his killers will actually face life without parole. desiree joins me now. desiree, i know people say i'm

sorry for your loss. i don't know if it helps but it's desperately sad and infuriating story and as a mother, my heart does break for you. i'm so sorry. but your story could perhaps make a difference here. tell us what you are feeling given what you're seeing happening day in and day out at the hands of george gascon. >> and feeling -- first of all, thank you, laura, for having me. i'm feeling let down by the justice system. my son was truly beaten and tortured to death back in may 2018 and the five killers involved in his murder are no longer come as you mentioned, are no longer facing life without parole or the death penalty. these gentlemen are now facing 25 years and only having to do 80% of that time, which is 20 years. that is not enough. my son has a sentence, his sentence was death. i will never see my son again.

how are they -- how is it even the thought that they will be out in time to create families of their own and do everything that my son was cheated from? so i feel let down by george gascon, i feel it's personal now, i feel that him neglecting the victims is personal, and for him not to reach out for me is personal. i think is a danger to l.a. county, point blank. >> laura: what was the reaction of your son's murderers when they found out that they'd be getting out in 20 years? >> it was sickening, actually. my daughter and i sat in court. one of them gave a fist bump to his attorney and his attorney looked at him like "good job" and was smiling from ear to ear and it was done all in front of me, which was a slap in the face. it just goes to show you where we are at.

criminals are now considered victims. what are we doing here? it's the other way around. i feel that they are getting more justice than we the victims are and it's not right at all. >> laura: i want to show some good news here, desiree, which is the current polling about this george soros-supported d.a., mr. gascon. 25% approval rating, a 40.8% disapproval rating and 61% say they'll vote for an unnamed alternative candidate. your message to democrat women in this state who just can't feel like they can vote to vote against a democrat that's an office like george gascon because you need about, you know -- you need 580,000 signatures by october 27th to get this recall in order, so what's your message to them tonight? >> i'm a democrat. we need to all wake up.

this is not a political stance, this is not a political effort, this is about a fight for what's right and what's wrong. we need to wake up. we need to commit -- get together as a community, as angelenos, and get this man out of office. i'm telling you all, you do not want to be in my place, you do not ever want to lose your son. you do not ever want to be a part of this right here. you do not want to be a part of this violence, you do not want to be about this destroyed terminal justice system. it's just gone wrong, so please, everybody wake up. these poles mean nothing without these signatures, we need signatures. please go to -- download the petition, sign, we need him out. this is now down to crunch time and i just do not want him to stay in office, he is a danger, like i said. i am scared, i am scared for our

safety. please, i am begging all of you to please take this very seriously. >> laura: desiree, i don't recognize l.a. i first came here in 1984, i thought i had died and gone to heaven, it was the most credible place. watching your pain, the pain of so many parents, everything that's happening here, it's unacceptable. it's completely unacceptable. i will post the link to the website so we can get more signatures. we will be in touch with you obviously before the october deadline, but this cannot be for naught. desiree, thank you for sharing the story, i know it is incredibly difficult for you and we really appreciate it. >> thank you for having me, again, i'm incredibly blessed, thank you. >> laura: unbelievable. voting is currently underway in the recall election against governor gavin newsom and on september 14th, another date you have to keep in mind if you want to save the state. we are going to find out if the

golden state turns red. right now 46 candidates are running to replace newsom. should the voters decide to recall him. if there's one question, do you want to recall, that's question number one. question number two is who do you want to replace him, but the standoff, the guy leading is larry elder, he's a radio talk show host, i spoke at length with him today as we toured the south central neighborhood where he grew up. here's what we learned. >> larry elder grew up in this neighborhood of south central l.a., he graduated from crenshaw high school right behind me. he ended up becoming an outspoken radio host, a columnist, see him all the time on television, but now he wants to be the man who replaces liberal california governor gavin newsom. larry, everyone says, look, the odds are against you. what's the magic sauce you have? >> well, i was born and raised here, and from the hood, i went to crenshaw his goal. i could talk abut issues like choice in public school in a way that gives me marketability i think than the average republican.

>> laura: the crime in this state is -- it's just devastating. as governor, what do you do there given prop 47, which is already on the books, anything under $950 you are not releasing a lot of police activity on? >> i will tell you what i want to, i won't release 20,000 prisoners early because of coronavirus and based on stats, most of them are likely to reoffend. gavin newsom has something like 70,000 people since he's been governor have been released early. many of them have been violent offenders, i want to that. i won't have this false narrative that the police are out to get black people. 81% of black people, according to a recent poll, say they want the police manpower to stay the same or to be increased. this is just common sense stuff. it's one of the reasons why the majority of hispanics wants this man recalled, because the lack of choice in school and because of crime. the people were disproportionately hurt by crime of the very black and brown people that love the state that they care about. >> laura: you have been a subject, not surprisingly, a lot of attacks from the "l.a. times," local california

pundits and so forth and nationally. accusing everything from brandishing a gun to using the n-word, it goes on and on. your reaction to the specific charges? >> well, i've never brandished a gun, loaded or unloaded, at anybody in my life. it regarding the other allegations made, they are almost too silly to be respond to. i've also been called the black face of what's up rumsey. >> laura: i saw that. that's one of the top hits on google, by the way. which means you are a threat to some of the. >> i've also been accused of saying women are stupid. they are referring to an article i wrote in 2000, 21 years ago, where i was quoting a study from the annenberg school, left-wing school, they asked men and women 25 questions about politics, then knew more than limited, 15 of them, it women new only more than men in one of them and the reason that the women knew less, according to a female professor who is still around -- >> laura: it you are quoting. >> according her, she said the reason women know less as they get their dominant source of news from local news and local news to dahmer, end of quote, i

didn't say it, she did. >> laura: this happens to those of us in the public eye a lot. you have a very thick skin though, and i think that's part of the reason that you need almost someone who's been out there in the public eye a lot to be able to withstand what the incoming is. where did you get that? where did you get that thick skin? >> i think for my mother and my father. my mother always told me nobody can make you feel inferior without your permission, my dad always told me democrat's want to give you something for nothing, one of his favorite expressions. my father was thrown out of the house by his mom when he was 13 years old. athens, georgia, jim crow south at the beginning of the great depression, tough, tough guy, and so was my mom at i've been called an uncle tom for 30 years. >> laura: i worked for justice thomas so i know the train very well. >> [indiscernible], coconut, the antichrist, you name it, i've been called that. that's one of the reasons i

think i'm going to be successful when i get up the sacrament of. i'm not going up there to make friends, i'm not afraid of being disliked, i expect to be disliked. >> laura: after he showed me where he attended high school, he took me to his home in south-central l.a. and we talked about what impact he could have on the u.s. senate if he were elected. >> laura: a lot of people are talking about potential senate retirement. on the democrat side. >> they are. >> laura: if you were governor, you would have the replacement power. >> that's right, the governor replaces the senator. recently alex was the replacement for kamala harris and i would have the power and as you well know, we have a 50/50 split in washington, d.c., and if anything were to happen to dianne feinstein -- >> laura: she might retire. >> i would have the ability to replace her and that's one of the reasons the democrats are freaking out. >> laura: we just learned that joe biden is planning to come to this state to campaign for gavin newsom against the recall. kamala will arrive friday. you worried? >> christmas is coming early in

august here in south-central los angeles. biden's popularity has never been lower. i think i just read it's at 41% because of the afghanistan debacle. the only major public figure that i know of who's praised him as been gavin newsom, so that joe biden come out here and praise the wonderful job gavin newsom has done on crime, on homelessness, on the rise of gas taxes, on the fact that people are leaving california for the very first time and on the way he slammed his state down, ignoring science and the most severe way compared to all the other 49 states. let joe biden defend that record, i welcome that and maybe joe biden can encourage gavin newsom to debate me. >> laura: that would be nice. don't hold your breath. breaking just moments ago, california still going down the drain. according to the "l.a. times," california assembly members who refused to provide proof of vaccinations will be suspended for the final two weeks of the session. i don't think they're going to think that's punishment. it turns out that under biden

though -- moving on to a different topic -- the u.s. does negotiate with terrorists. congress been jim jordan sounds off on biden's latest blunder, plus, why are we rushing the vetting process for afghan refugees? former acting dhs secretary chad wolf lays out the dangers of expedited vetting. you don't want to miss that, you won't see it anywhere else tonight, stay there.

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♪ ♪ >> laura: leave immediately. that's the warning just issued by the biden state department to americans waiting to leave the kabul airport. they are also telling americans on their way to the airport to turn around, avoid it altogether. what is going on? the state to permit estimates right now that roughly 1500 americans are still somewhere in afghanistan and their safe passage we know now is going to depend on the good graces of the taliban. and when we want to see the white house projecting strength, today, they projected weakness. >> why haven't we heard the president say the united states does not negotiate with terrorists? is that still the u.s. policy? >> of course it is, peter, but i would also say that there's a reality that the taliban is currently controlling large swaths of afghanistan.

>> laura: all of it takes your breath away. joining me now, ohio congress been jim jordan. congressman, are we looking at a developing hostage situation in afghanistan? or do we rely on whatever deal the cia director cut with the taliban on monday to get these americans home? >> well, who knows, but this has got to be the focus here, laura. what is the number of americans who are in the country? let's focus first and foremost on getting them to safety, getting them home. second, let's secure our southern border before we worry about anything else, but decided that they are negotiating, not negotiating, looks to me like they are giving in. it was just the other day when the taliban said that august 31st is a redline joe biden hasn't changed that date, so i don't know what's going on there, but i do know one thing. it what's the number, let's bring american citizens home and let's secure our southern borders so that telemann other

terrorists don't exploit a border -- that should be our focus versus spending money and all the other things but the democrats are focusing on doing. >> laura: a total of, what, $5 trillion on its way to a reality -- a shocking reality in the house pushing a socialist agenda in the house. congressman, moments ago -- >> while we have american citizens stranded, while we have a board that has the highest illegal crossings on record until april was higher than may and then may was the highest until june and june was the highest until 212,000 crossed the border in july and they are focused on spending $5 trillion instead of those two fundamental tasks the government is supposed to have, secure the border and protect citizens abroad when they're being potentially threatened and attacked by a terrorist organization. >> laura: congressman, these are impeachable offenses. after years of hounding donald trump on phony russian collusion charges, this is truly the most shocking dereliction of presidential duty i have ever witnessed in my lifetime. i was a little kid during [indiscernible] but this is the

most shocking. moments ago, as i was saying, congressman, a source is telling us that apparently afghan refugees -- they've already been housed at the airport, but they are actually going to be brought to quantico, the marine base, and to fort pickett, another report that we are going to have as many as 30,000 afghan refugees brought to texas. did we have 30,000 translators and interpreters in afghanistan? we still have americans there, for goodness' sakes. >> exactly right and common sense -- and the american people understand this fundamentally. a focus americans, get them home, don't leave them stranded, protect our border and then you can worry about the special immigrant visa and all that stuff, but focus on the priorities and what needs to happen, but laura, democrats always screw this up. i was think about this today. one have they got foreign policy right? carter, clinton, obama can't vote biden. carter was the iran hostage

issue, obama benghazi and here we are with biden and afghanistan. tell me when they get it right and you said it best, when you project weakness from the oval office, bad guys do bad things around this planet. that is the biggest -- for all they said about president trump, all his going to get -- president trump projected strength and we didn't have this kind of thing going on the last for years but it took all of eight months for this to unfold in the biden a administration in the same people, the exact same people who were in charge of foreign policy were the ones who were in charge of it when we had the libya fiasco, four americans getting killed in benghazi. it is blinking, burns, sherman, these are the exact same people. that's what bothers me so much, because we saw how bad they messed that up, messed up libya and what happened and benghazi -- >> laura: congressman... >> gave their lives for this country. same group of people. >> laura: i wouldn't hire that group to secure an elementary school, let alone secure the united states of america. this is a purposeful dereliction of duty at this point.

congressman, thank you. for those of you concerned about vetting the thousands of afghans coming here, have no fear, because biden has a big plan. >> it typically takes months to go through this process and this is a signal of the fact that this is a top priority with the president the intelligence community and the individuals who oversee this vetting process who have massively expedited the process in order to move through the necessary steps, thorough steps in order to process individuals and get them moving to the system. >> laura: joining us now, tribal, former trump acting dhs secretary. chadha, expediting the vetting process from a terrorist hotbed like afghanistan, what could possibly go wrong? >> well, laura, when you're dealing with a number of people we're looking at today, the vetting process is a multistep process. and so any time that you're going to expedite that -- it's usually a process that will last several weeks into a month where you've got to validate their

passports, their birth certificate, proof that the actually worked as a translator for 12 months, proof that they've gone through a dod background check, letters of recommendation, then cbp, dhs, customs and border protection will do also terrorist watch licks checks. this takes weeks and weeks and weeks so if you know have any administration talk about expediting that with a number of people that we are seeing, there's going to be corners that are going to be cut and you're going to -- the concern here is people slipping through those cracks, so any time that you're going to expedite the screening process in the vetting process, that invites a lot of trouble and i would say if it was poorly -- if it was properly planned out to get americans out, to get these individuals out, they would have had time to properly vet them over the course of several, several weeks. >> laura: i don't trust it. all of that is all well and good. i don't trust anything these people are saying. after what we have seen unfold in our border and afghanistan, i don't trust them. okay? and i think i have good reason

not to trust them. if you were in charge of it i feel better about it, but we just learned that officials are projecting 25,000 will arrive at these four military institutions. el paso one of the insulation selected. 25,000. a lot of translators and interpreters suddenly, i didn't know we had that many. >> well, what we also know is the dhs is patrolling the vast majority of these individuals into the country and then doing a lot of these checks and looking at their applications after the fact, so that's what we're seeing the vast amount of individuals coming in, landing at other individual airports across the country, that they are doing -- >> laura: how much does this cost, chat? chat, how much does this cost? >> i'm sorry, how much does it cost? >> laura: how much does it cost per refugee? i saw that broken out at one point when we were bringing in the somalis in two maine and minnesota but the american people are footing the bill so they deserve to know ultimately how much that will cost.

>> well, it's going to be significant, a lot of the checks being done by the apartment of moment security are done through the national vetting center in cbp and the usc bias office also does a number of check so you've got multiple entities within the department that are doing checks and looking at these applications, so it's tying up resources. these are also some of the same folks that are looking at asylum applications and other things that are going along that southwest border as well. >> laura: and then the cost of the refugees over decades. i mean, overlong period of time, which we don't know -- >> correct. a lot of these individuals -- yeah. a lot of these individuals apply and get benefits once they come into the country as well. >> laura: it's a huge amount of money and some of them need to be paroled in, but that's a lot of people. chad, thank you. if coming up, you won't believe how bad l.a.'s homeless crisis has gotten since "the ingraham angle" last visited. it's going to blow your mind. raymond arroyo has all of the information you need on this decline next.

>> laura: we've been here all week documenting the decline of california, once idyllic state from covid mandates to rising crime, it's collapsing here. we were here exactly two years ago covering all of this and where back and we see some things may have gotten a little bit better, other things got much worse, so raymond arroyo hit the street to investigate. >> when we visited venice in 2019, it looks like this. if and here it is today. not much has changed. these tents and homeless encampments spread out all over the city choking neighborhoods throughout los angeles. it's estimated that 41,000 homeless people are on the streets today. this is the scene outside of google just around the corner. but the situation at venice beach is vastly improved since our last visit. l.a. county sheriff alex villa nueva group tire of watching the

expanding encampment's. this summer he took matters into his own hands and cleared the beach. >> the homeless took over and we started getting inundated with calls, emails, then the video's start popping up on youtube, just the sheer horror, anarchy. i talked to lieutenant, say let's go down there, june 7, how bad could it be and it was as bad as it was promised. >> venice residents like mark are pleased with the progress. >> i credit him for having embarrassed the mayor and having embarrassed the councilmember to the point that they moved up whatever they were going to do here by a year or two. they moved a lot of people, they got them into shelter, assaults dropped down to almost nothing. >> has this scatter the homeless population into the neighborhoods? >> we had two thefts last week on my block. because of this defund the police effort and the loss of these at least 300 officers, the result is we don't have

presence. >> what you make of this anti-camping ordinance that has been passed, signed, it's going to be enforced in september? will that cleanup the rest of the problem as you see it? >> no, because we don't have the personnel to do it. the city just stopped its overnight cleanups and they cut the funding to the department of sanitation. >> the city has laws that were in place. they removed laws, they handcuffed the police and then they wonder why there's encampments everywhere. i mean, these people are some geniuses. so by handcuffing the l.a.p.d. then the only solution is regulating public space. >> so you're not convinced this anti-camping ordinance is going to work? >> it's not going to work at all. it all most takes an act of congress to enforce a law they put on the books, which means they had no intention of ever enforcing it. you go over there, the whole -- surrounded by pop-up tents.

it used to be a tourist destination. this is the mind-set of the woke elite. they decided they want to virtue signal how compassionate they are. what are they thinking? where's the sense of pride in the mayor, the city council, the board of supervisors? they allowed our county and our city to be a dumping ground for the entire nation's homeless. >> while the homeless have left venice beach, they found shelter here under overpasses. it's estimated that there's been a 45% increase in the number of homeless here in los angeles county. the problem is, these encampments are spreading onto sidewalks, causing potential injury. >> the 101 freeway, that is gavin newsom, that is the california highway patrol, those are all executive branch of state government. who runs the executive branch? the governor. so why is this the mass it is? and that all falls on his

shoulders, just like the rest of the city falls on garcetti's shoulders, the city councilman, the board of supervisors. the solutions are there, but there's no political will to do the obvious. >> sheriff believes there could be political consequences for the ongoing homeless crisis. >> the recall, not just newsom. of gascon, [indiscernible], is a referendum on homelessness and lawlessness. that's what the referendum is going to be on. every person is going to vote based on the transient on the front lawn. the garbage dump right around the corner filling the back alley, the encampments everywhere. that is what the recall is on. it's a referendum on their performance in office and right now it's just been horrible. >> laura: at raymond, it takes your breath away, it looks like a refugee camp in the middle east. >> you bet. in some cases it's worse than the camps we've set up for the afghans we've been seeing all week but there's a public safety dimension of this.

we spoke to a woman, you will see her on fox nation on the larger piece, she was struck by a car because she couldn't pass down the sidewalk, the enchantment that covered it. we spoke to another man, homeless, stepped into the street, hit by a car. this is happening all the time. this is life and death. it's not just a public hazard and oblate to look at. there's a real safety involved here and someone should jump in. >> laura: there's a lot of talk about this camping -- anti-camping ordinance, what the heck is that? >> the city council passed a -- >> laura: we are going to be right back. en you're on the lan, they're right behind you. reunite with your team. go bowling.

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ceo of justice defense fund. i know you have been tracking this, you've been all over this issue from day one. what do parents watching this tonight need to understand about this website onlyfans? >> sure, well, i think what's important to understand first of all is the context in which this is happening with onlyfans. in 2020, pornhub, the world's largest porn website was condemned for complicity in crime including child exportation, rape and trafficking. they subsequently stopped doing business and there have been seven lawsuits that have been launched against the company, four class actions and one of those lawsuits on behalf of 34 victims, 14 who were children when they were exploited on the site. not only through porn-hub, but they also sued visa for

knowingly profiting from the venture. this has caused the credit card company to reassess their liability and whether they want to do business with such sites that are reckless and negligent in their moderation and verification practices and that is including onlyfans. >> laura: that begs the question: why would credit card companies want to be part of a site that facilitates transactions that exploit children? and that's what ends up happening whether it's by chance or whether it's by glitches in their platform, but this is a huge problem and it's against every country 'has laws far as i can tell, so why would they continue to do it? just pure cash, pure money? >> yeah. i mean, this is financially driven decisions i think on all accounts. with the credit card companies, what they realized with the

pornhub fiasco is that they are liable to be sued if they continue to do business with sites that are engaged in reckless moderation and verification policies, so what they did recently was they enacted policies that they will not allow these porn sites to do business with them without rigorous moderation, without age and unambiguous consent verification of every individual in every video and that was supposed to take place on october 1st, that those policies would be enacted and it's not a coincidence that onlyfans decided that on october 1st they were going to drop all porn content before reversing that decision. >> laura: well, i want to play something for our viewers so people understand what is really happening on this site. this is an interview that cbs did with one of the women in that suit in the pornhub

lawsuit. let's watch. >> is there any possibility that they tried to contact you to confirm your age? >> no, they did not. >> to confirm that it was consensual? >> they did not. >> how many people saw it? >> over 200,000. >> laura: over 200,000. a lot of these girls, you know, their life is forever changed, a lot of them feel like their life is ruined or even over, which is in itself horrific. final thoughts. >> look, i've spoken to victims not only of pornhub, but up onlyfans, recently a girl, a child blackmailed into violent acts and that was uploaded and monetized on onlyfans and so if you've been a victim of onlyfans or pornhub or any other website, for that matter, reach out, justicedefensefund.org. if we want to help. >> laura: thank you for staying on this, we will check back with you, as we know there

will be many more challenges to this sick website on the road. thank you so much. one of the leaders here in california focusing on instead of, you know, that minor issue of saving the state? the last bite explains next.

♪ ♪ >> laura: all right, with documented drug abuse, the crime, the homelessness here in california, it's exploded, especially in san francisco, but the city's mayor there decided to make life harder by imposing that business-destroying vaccine mandate, great going. but don't worry, she did find time to offer relief and a tribute to one community. san francisco mayor yesterday declared the month of august, which is a must overcome a transgender history month. okay. while she is doing that we are going to continue to bring you more of our investigation into the collapse of california under democrat rule. tomorrow, my ride along with the l.a.p.d., what i discovered will make you cry, maybe have a

little help as well. set your dvr so you always stay connected with us and also don't forget to show that you understand what's at stake by wearing your usa-made freedom matters gear, go to lauraingraham.com. all for charity, and i want to thank you for watching, and remember, it's america now and forever. greg gutfeld takes it all from your. >> the democrats want to know what they are going to be facing. let's talk about it right now, because if i were a republican running, i would say democrats can't protect us across the world, democrats can't protect our streets and democrats can't protect us at the border. >> greg: that's how bad the democrats are doing. joe scarborough is a republican again. [scattered applause] ♪ ♪