all coming down to this. this exit. our heart goes out to all those who have lost lives today in service of this country to their families. if we owe them a debt of gratitude. we will continue to cover the story fairly, thank you for trusting us. fair, balanced, and unafraid. jesse watters has "prime time live today tough day. >> good evening, welcome to "fox news primetime" i'm jesse watters. fox news alert, just when you thought it could not get any worse, we learned another u.s. service member has died. of bringing the taft told to 13 americans dead in the wake of the vicious attack outside the airport and kabul afghanistan. at the same time, countless americans remain stranded there tonight behind enemy lines begging to come home. the president, a wall all day. and you to be found. when he woke up, sounded lost and confused.

we can help you today, or tomorrow, but hang in there. we are going to make it work. >> we have so much to do. it's within our capacity to do it. we have to remain steadfast. steadfast. we will complete our mission. we will continue after the troops have withdrawn defined means of which we can find any american who is wishes 2 out of afghanistan. we will find them and get them out. >> jesse: don't worry, you're in good hands. u.s. government is sharing its list of all the americans in danger with the new list allies, the taliban. seriously, listen to this. >> there's been occasions where

they military has contacted their military counterparts in the taliban inside this, for example, this bus is coming through. x number of people on it. made up of the following group of people. we want you to let that bus or that group through. yes, there have been occasions like that. >> jesse: the president was pressed on the insane idea giving americans names to the taliban but insisted over and over he's gonna regressed. >> there's been some criticism even from people in your party about the dependence of taliban to secure the perimeter of the airport. do you feel like there was a mistake made in that regard? >> no, i don't. look, i think general mackenzie handled this question very well. the fact is, we are in the situation and inherited a situation particularly tense as we all know that the afghan

military collapse, 11 days -- in 11 days. that it is in the interest of general mackenzie said, in the interest of the taliban that, in fact, isis-k is not pesticides to. >> jesse: you know him. rob, joe biden says this doesn't change anything. pulling every body out, still relying on the taliban to run security. if you're stranded, we are going to do our best and he wouldn't change a thing. your reaction? >> i've been there a couple times and i've seen people and the taliban has been our enemy no matter what they called himself. just getting them close to the perimeter and saying there's

going to be a swift response which we knew was going to happen when they get them that close there's good to be suicide bombers in and we predicted it for weeks and it's disgusting. giving the kill list of the taliban, here's the people, lett them in. there's got to be a response we've need more people. >> jesse: the guys obliterated by the complex suicide attack, they're not even sure who it is. isis, taliban, inside job. who knows. what went through your mind? >> they are going to change their names and there is not like different people from different parts of the country. the same group, just different warlords and they've been worrying like this since before we were a country. they are mad at each other and try to kill each other and make each other look bad. they are fighting over this and continue and they understand violence. we need to be with them and we can just let the people blow up like that. pretend like nothing happened. it's ridiculous and sad and i

feel bad for the families where wondering who was killed and why. it's useless and for them to say that we should have given up bagram anyway, i'm not sure who's in charge. if they're giving advice like this to the president they should be fired and they should be resigned. >> jesse: i do not believe the president when he said the commanders on the ground, didn't think we need to keep bagram. i don't believe that. it doesn't sound like rational to me. when there is hearings were going to have to figure that out. but why are the taliban in charge of checkpoints anyway? why couldn't we have just set up checkpoints around the air force? is that because we are surrounded so bad? >> it's frustrating because we decide to get the military out before the telling anybody. i learned this finding them a long time ago, they do not tell the truth. we are taking them at their word and saying whoops on this one but here's a list of people

coming through again and let's not do it again. we are to close and the permanent is too short and we've got to expand the footprint and get people out there. if we need to put our boots on the necks again and we've done it before, and do it and lose no time. it's frustrating and sad about the emotions i'm feeling and hearing from other veterans around the country. first, it was shock and no embarrassment. people are calling for the president to step down and there's people to be fired and resigned. >> jesse: after sustaining all the casualties, it feels off? we are going to push the perimeter back, we are going to send some search and rescue teams out, we are going to extend the deadline, i do not care. you guys blew it, you were supposed to provide safe passage and you blew it. we do not trust you anymore. there is almost 6,000 gis there and i do not think it looks that organize the crew surrounding the airport. you can push them back if you

wanted to, isn't that right? >> we could easily in the simplest as telling them we are coming out right now and anybody we see in the street that has a gun we will kill them. no timeline, doesn't matter what they think about we do not need to give them a timeline. we used to be the strongest country in military and the world and we can beat again, we can do whatever we want whenever we want. and when exactly right, we are a superpower and it's time for the commander-in-chief to act like that. rob o'neill, thank you so much for your expertise. >> thank you, appreciate it, jesse. >> jesse: laura logan, mass confusion, sources on the ground and families the desperate to get out of there. what are you hearing? >> well, jesse, i was on the phone pretty much all through the night last night with many families on the ground and the number of them worked with me on "60 minutes" for 20 years and that's why i'm helping them get

out. they have been threatened and they are targets. it was really the most -- it was one of the most distressing things i've ever experienced because when the bombs went off, they were telling me that kids are screaming. of most that you have seen across the media today of all the people who were lying dead and wounded to, those were taken by the brother of our 60 minutes afghan producer. for joe biden to stand up there on the day that all these afghans are being killed and to pretend that this is some kind of tragedy and he cares about the death of american soldiers, if he cared about it, why did you do it? why did you create the situation? why are you doing anything to change or? going to the taliban and asking can we stop pretending now that the taliban are not terrorists? can we stop pretending that the network is not the number two,

the leader of the hot county network , the deputy commander of the taliban. let's pretend they are not isis. old friend of mine, i interviewed him many times, when we interrogate the people, get them on the battlefield you know what we find out? today they are isis, two weeks ago they were taliban, to tell mike to a year's ago there were al qaeda. the americans -- >> jesse: their fooling joe biden ended so slippery group of tribesmen. they change sides constantly. they're all corrupt. the fact joe did not see the army collapsing like this, who is he kidding? i've never been over there and you go online and look at it and have you seen the jumping jacks? these guys could not tell time.

there were smoking, and they could not hold the advance? no wonder they went back to the field. >> i've got to tell you a couple of things. it did not collapse in 11 days. also do not forget to the commandos special forces that's in the back bone and they are borne the brunt of most of the operations. these guys are among the best with any military in the world. if you do not see much of them but they are indistinguishable from americans when you do see them on the battlefield. of they've done thousands of operations. their specialized forces that rely on mobility. when you take away the air force

and the air support, what do you do? you can have a group of delta operators and if there out numbered, surrounded, the same thing's going to have been to many of these guys. they were executed when they surrendered. what happened to thousands of more of them, they fought their way from the south and across the mountains to the valley where they went with their equipment. they are fighting now today. when the president of the united states is not, he's lying. he's taken the blood of our afghan -- you know what's happening on the ground now? americans, these good americans who served alongside these people have said we will not be part of the betrayal that is drenched in the blood of afghan and the blood of u.s. marines as well. this government is lying about

everything. i know people in the evacuation today who said there is not even close to the 7,000 numbers that went out is absolutely false that they did not have the equipment in place. not that many people allowed in. we know all of us up all night, that's why my voice is crazy. we know they've been turning away people and american children born in the country. if parents not being allowed to get on planes. >> jesse: they can't hide it because we have seen as the planes are taking out, there is five guys in there. planes empty. i do know what to hear anymore numbers about the success. it's a scramble to the gates because he booted it. if bradley can see it , ground support anybody knows it. i've got to run, thank you so much. we appreciate it. >> thanks, jesse.

>> jesse: correspondent trey yingst on the ground at the kabul airport on sunday and he knows what the scene looks like before the attack. now live with the latest on the latest evacuation effort. what's going on now? >> good evening. the evacuations are likely to pick up in a limited capacity once again, but we were there at the airport on kabul and we saw the marines and the soldiers working their hardest. just to get afghan civilians out. the soldiers were not there for war, they were there for peace and are still there trying to help with the humanitarian mission because as many afghan civilians to get out of the country. they help the united states and the nato allies during the last 20 years and they've been granted special immigrant visas or other paperwork to get them to safety. we talked with many civilians on the ground, terrified people knowing what the brutality of the taliban looks like and what

can happen to them and their families if they were to stay in kabul or other parts of afghanistan. the taliban today's trying to distance itself from what happened this morning at the airport in kabul. two blasts killing one to a dozen of afghan civilians and 13 american service members. they say the americans were in control of the area around the airport but when it comes down to it, the united states has relied heavily on the taliban to create a security perimeter outside of kabul airport. it's unfortunate that this is the type of arrangement that's basically being understood for the next four days. americans are not out of harm's way. that needs to be clearly understood. the threat from isis-k and other organizations on the ground in afghanistan including al qaeda is a very real threat. if u.s. marines remain at that

base and they are at the airfield and certainly developig story that can have many twists and turns and american forces have to be prepared for. >> jesse: it's odd because joe biden and said that al qaeda was not a threat and it looks like they're all congregating around kabul. thank you so much, stay safe out there. next a guest sean parnell. u.s. senate candidate for the state of pennsylvania, my home state. 13 service members died today. we do not know the names just yet but we will know and we will let you know. we saw this moment of silence that the president held for these service members today. the rest of the address, he looked drained and defeated. what say you? >> i say when leaders of the country project weakness, and emboldens the enemies. joe biden is responsible for the

largest foreign policy disaster in this country's history. by the way, a young senator from delaware was railing against the vietnam war during the fall of saigon, vice president during benghazi, and he's president of the united states during the fall of kabul. joe biden, this is on him. the blood of the american service members and our allies is on him. one strategic blunder after the next. whether it's pulling the military out prior of evacuating citizens or giving up bagram air base, which will be studied at military academies is one of the greatest blunders of how not to conduct a withdrawal. if stranding thousands of americans behind enemy lines and here's what i cannot understand for the life of me. since the moment that president trump took his hand off the bible, the democrats tried to impeach him over and over and over again. for a phone call, which president trump said was

perfectly perfect. you facilitated the fall of a country combustor in the thousands of americans behind enemy lines. basically installed a global jihadist all-star team in the government and the interim. empowered the enemies. by the way, blew up all the equipment. it absolutely boggled the mind that no one has been held accountable for this. if no one has been fired. no one has resigned. a 13-year-old that plays call of duty has more tactical acumen than anybody in the joe biden administration and it's an absolute disgrace. >> jesse: you say it's he whois accountable for this. let's run that and he pivoted to trump. if you can react. >> do you bear any responsibility for the way things have unfold a question mark >> i bear responsibility

for fundamentally all that's happened >> do you think people have an issue with pulling out of afghanistan and the way things have happened? >> i think they have an issue. that people are likely to get hurt. if some as we have seen and gotten killed. then it was messy. >> do you stand by your decision to pull out? >> yes, i do, because look at it this way. i have another meeting for real. but imagine where we would be if i had indicated on may 1st i was not going to renegotiate evacuation day. we were going to stay there. >> talking about the trump deal.

he's blown out pretty much every deal that trump out already. the pipeline in europe, remain in mexico, now he's beholden to a trump deal. i'm not buying it. >> you shouldn't. but what they teach you in the military is that commanders are responsible for everything that's happened or failed to happen under their command. this tragedies on joe biden. by the way, the trump withdrawal plan was unbelievably different than the biden withdrawal plan. if trump was engaged with regional leaders on totaled two weeks, joe biden hadn't talked to the prime minister of pakistan. it's kind of important given that pakistan shares a border with afghanistan. there are a stakeholder in the region. one of the most egregious errors was not joe biden move to the withdrawal date from may to september for strictly political reasons. that gave the taliban to consolidate, organize, and not

just the taliban, but every network, al qaeda planning the counteroffensive by the way the taliban also had time to send a delegation to beijing to coronet with china. joe biden has been wrong, been on the wrong side of every major foreign policy decision in the history of the country and he is wrong again on this one. it's a tragedy. >> jesse: streaks alive. if sean parnell, thank you for coming on "prime time." fox news contributor colorado also here tonight let's listen to the flip of joe biden. back when he was running for president back in 2008 when he believed holding people accountable for their failures was the most important thing. >> we've got to hold people accountable for our failures. for the rest of the world looks at us and when we do not hold our own people accountable, they wonder why they should follow what is spirit in our judgment.

and they asked me today on television why i think the president should fire rumsfeld, for the message he would send to the world! >> jesse: who's accountable here? will you see resignations and firings? >> zilch. if we should see something -- this is not the only crisis the mr. risch and will face. we saw a fundamental breakdown than the kind of processes and the president relies on to provide a good and execution. no plan to recover american equipment, no plan to maintain the security of afghanistan until americans nationals in america and the allies are out of the country. this is been a debacle. it starts with the president of the united states and going through the white house staff, the cabinet. take for example the secretary of state when the president made the decision and the announcement on april 14th, where -- why did the secretary

of state say we've got to get that special visa program for the afghan allies. we've got to put into overdrive. it didn't happen. the secretary of state, why was it the president of united states went out a few days ago and we are not aware of any criticism of our efforts after the british prime minister, the german chancellor, the french president, the leadership of nato castigated him publicly for the debacle. we have a chance to hold him accountable and it's called the election of 2022 and it might be the election of 2024. if the republican message out to be this is why we need to have a check in the balance of the policies of the administration by electing republican congress in 2022. if we found to have members in congress for congress and the senate laying out the policy differences with the administration. it's a retreat on the international stage, worse than saigon. the only good news out of this and as a friend of my told me the other day, remember 14 year,

we had the fall of soviet communism. all it took was the right leadership following the right policies in the form of ronald reagan in peace through strength and we were able to achieve that enormous victory. if this is at the end but it will deeply stay in our administration country, and reflects badly on the administration. articulating what are the right policies and what's the right path for america to face in the dangerous world. i've got to say one other thing and i hate to go on a rant. i thought he said the right thing today. were going to find the people who did this and kill them. that was the right thing to say but let's also remember that they may doubt that on the other side. when we had usama bin laden in our sites and one of your previous guests ready to go in and kill him, one man said in the situation room, president obama don't do it and that man was joseph biden.

of president of the united states today. >> jesse: he was against the general soleimani strike as well. after the action we have taken against afghanistan, the sloppiness, i do not have the confidence that what he's reading reading off the teleprompter is true. you can sell it, you can act tough, but i have not seen the result. i don't think the enemies are as scared as they should be. karl rove, thank you for coming on. this attack on kabul, the deadliest day for the u.s. and afghanistan in more than one decade. so bad we got some historical perspective. joining me know, mark levin host of "life, liberty, and live in." we have seen benghazi and we know the reagan administration, use on the marine barracks in lebanon happen. where does the stack up in the

annals of military blunders in your opinion? >> this is the biggest blunder as rachel kemp told me. the ramifications of this are absolutely unbelievable. first, we lost more men in this outrageous boggled, messed up withdrawal and we lost in the last 18 months in afghanistan. the idea that you create basically the alamo, no air power, no military support. the enemy knows where to hate sue. the enemy knows where to hit anybody who tries to get there. i do not know what kind of generals we have, i do not know the kind of advice the president is getting, but the president is a disaster. he's always been a disaster, he's reckless, he's dangerous, he stubborn, and he is stupid. it's cost of some lives. according to the state department, we have 1500 citizens over there and i expect

it's a lot more. they are not getting out. they are not getting out. what's going to happen to those people let alone the tens of thousands of allies citizens and our afghan allies? i'm no military expert but on the other hand, neither is joe biden. in fact, joe biden is not, vice president does not, secretary of state's knot, national security advisor is not, we have nobody with serious on hand experience other than the secretary of defense who appears to be utterly and completely fat lace and the joint chiefs seems to be the worst generals in american history my attitude about this is we still have not gotten out. it's going to be increasingly dangerous and by the way i keep hearing we will do recriminations later. would you mean we are going to do recriminations later? we need to know what's going on and who is responsible for it in real time. recriminations in five months

doesn't do with any any good. it will do the recriminations. the problem is we cannot fire the present in the united states and why i've been saying they need to talk about the impeachment strong and frequently. we and the world need to know that we try to hold people accountable for what they have done. this cap event which is a joke if they're looking at the 25th amendment, we've got a man in the white house now who has blown up more than half a century of american national security. if the norms. all he wanted to do was get the military out of afghanistan. of 2500 troops. he has not succeeded. he sent in more troops and it's never going to succeed when you pull out the military before you pull out the citizens.

the guys are sitting ducks there. the media, the corrupt media. yesterday and the day before they are talking about joe biden's not getting the credit that he deserves. this of the greatest airlift in american history. airlift? this is a surrender or! the worst american surrender in american history! we have dead trips which he said he wanted to avoid. now they have explaining to do, don't they? >> jesse: he said knock on wood, no dead soldiers he had and now we know what happened there. you're saying the 20 for the amendment simply and we know that impeachment should be employed whether the republicanu think the 25th amendments being talked about? >> no, and its way to take pressure from the outside. it's harder to do that impeachment because it requires the cabinet to take action. the cabinet, they know what they're dealing with, they are dealing with gathering buffoons. why do you think he turns around

and walks away? because they tell him do not take any questions, do not screw things out. complicated words made it into two or three -- we know what's going on. and the communist chinese, russians, allies, israel, germany, the whole world knows what's going on but the media protects him, the democratic party nominated him. nancy pelosi too. all of this, praising biden that it's going swimmingly, that she is such a hack. we need people who are going to stand up prior generations, doesn't matter what part. american lives on the line, military lives on the line, we did what we had to do. we have to fix it fast including in the country because he's incapable of leading the country. incapable of making sound decisions. he just does not function. >> jesse: that's what hundred% clear and it's dereliction of

duty. i don't know if the administration has the stomach to face the reality, but the american people do. if michael of income everybody, go check his book out. you can see them on sunday nights as well. thank you, mark. where in the world of the democrats, the people who have been screaming impeachment from the rooftops from the past four years. former counterintelligence officer, now sitting on the armed services committee. infrastructure is pretty much over, congressman. when it settles we have to get to the bottom of this. i know the democrats will block answers when you're going to have to go get them. what are you hearing? i know you're not in a sociable boy are you hearing if anything from house democrats >> silent so far. we had the opportunity to do something this week.

one of the dark and shameful days in american history and certainly marine corps history. 11 marines, one sailor are dead. but they are dead because of the incompetence of the withdrawal. the shameful manner in which we have completely surrendered to the taliban. earlier this week i had to be on the house floor, that not allowed the president biden to withdraw until we got every american that wanted to get out of the country. required them to report to us every day on the number of americans left in country and the number of afghan allies seeking refuge. although democrats were very critical in a classified group briefing of the arbitrary augusn it came time to vote on that on the home's floor, voted against it so as not to jeopardize the $5 trillion rule to make possible the bernie sanders budget. that's where we are right now. that's where the cats priorities

are. of >> jesse: doing everything possibility to pass. but not doing the minimum necessary to make sure we do not leave the citizens behind. we will see american hostages, we will see thousands of allies trance behind enemy lines and we are witnessing the slow-motion collapse of american credibility all over the world because of the absolute incompetence within the white house right now. going to pivot back into schools, covid, schools, getting ron desantis in the mouth to get away from the afghanistan fiasco. and we know what it's going to happen and the press will follow it. it's going to be a hostage crisis that's going to haunt the administration for the rest of the term. no doubt about that. you've got an intelligence background and so here's the question. if state department cables were going out in the spring and the summer, embassy cables going out in the spring, the summer, get

the heck out of afghanistan. situation on the ground rapidly deteriorating. afghan army collapsing. massive gains by the taliban. joe biden going out to the american people saying we got this and everything's good, there is no way the taliban will advance that fast. do not worry about this. someone is lying. someone is lying. you cannot have both. i just does not square. you guys are going to have to get to the bottom of this and i'm just afraid that this is going to get dragged out into politics and it's just going to get stuff down like every scandal that happens in the country whether it's collusion, or we're never going to get answers. it is not what is going to happen this time again? >> the white house is making a very cynical but that this is just a new cycle they can manage. this is a messaging twitter fight that it'll blow over in a

month and the american people will move on. if they will not care about this. i thick it's wrong for a variety of reasons and the american people even those who wanted us to get out of afghanistan feel humiliated. i can tell the veterans community feels offended and betrayed by the decision. if i do not think it's going away, but it's incumbent upon every republican officeholder, every republican candidate to make this an issue front and center in the 2022 election so that we've got the ability to control the house and have subpoena power is actually conducting a real investigation not just in this foreign policy crisis but the other foreign policy crisis we are dealing with. we reached the expiration date for the 90 day intelligence community review of the wuhan origin cover-up. >> let me guess, inconclusive right? let's make sure the donors are happy and not have the hold anybody accountable. how convenient.

congressman, we're going to hold you to your word and we're going to get answers and be back on "prime time" will figure it out. thank you. >> thank you. >> jesse: national security correspondent jennifer griffin. we're just getting word to come on 13 u.s. service members now killed in the kabul attack. they are getting flown out along with some other 18 wounded soldiers. what's the latest and then personally, how did you personally and emotionally react to the president's address? >> let me start with saying the fact that the death toll continues to rise from the attack of the suicide bombing attack, we will report that there were 12 marines who had died, one navy medic. they are being aeromedical evacuated on specially equipped see seven and they're going to land where there is special

hospitals. these are special medical teams that are on board. there was a trauma unit set up at the airport in the event of this kind of mass casualty attack. it really -- i can't really tell you the stubbornness that's been cast over the pentagon. at that contradictions come in the impossible timelines, the expectations. fixing all of this, just being pulled out. it blows the mind and so personally, this was inevitable. we had an intelligence that suggested this kind of attack would occur. military, state department knew it. this was -- the people had to

come up with a plan, it's impossible. if you're relying on the taliban for security. how does that work? i really am actually quite speechless. >> jesse: let me ask you because they were asked to plan for this. i do not believe the pentagon wanted it to go down this way. i believe they were told by the political team, joe was surrounded mostly with lobbyist, they've got no international experience. he told him what they wanted to do, when the deadline was, and he did not sweat the details. it was tasked to the pentagon to just get boxed in like this. they are sitting ducks and they can secure an airport while they are supported by taliban. it's a kill zone. they are doing the best they can under the circumstances but this is not the circumstance that the pentagon wanted. they did not want this. >> this is the worst-case scenario. they had plans to carry out a

massive noncombatant evacuation under fire. that's what's happening, that's what's playing out. but one of the reason they are in the catch-22, they cannot leave the airport. we've got 5200 troops there because you can't leave the airport because the streets are controlled by the taliban. it's not safe, they do not want another black hawk down. there are so many constraints of what they are being expected to do. it is unbelievable heroic that they have been able to get 100,000 afghans, americans out of the country. it's frankly a miracle that this did not happen sooner. i can't believe it took this long with all those throngs of people. a mile deep outside the gates. it was a target for isis, on target for taliban, target for al qaeda and we haven't been talking about al qaeda and

hearing the administration talking about al qaeda because they do not want to admit al qaeda still in the country. how do we know it was isis-k versus al qaeda? how are they going to find these people when they could not find all these cells for the last 20 years? the president took the decision, given arbitrary deadline, the military knew it was an impossible deadline. they were through, they went through and people asked all the time why they would withdraw from bagram. he did not want to risk any service members lies on the way out. so they go out and they've got to go back in after 11 days? it was an impossible mission. they have done it heroically and my heart breaks for the service members and their families tonight. >> jesse: so this mind and the american people. thank you so much, jennifer, excellent reporting. here now, retired marine bomb

technician and fox news contributor. you heard the president saying he would hunt these guys down. i don't know. were you buying that? >> the only courageous or honest thing that joe biden did today was that he took a question from peter doocy. it's easy to go after him and sit up here, because i got real today. you're talking about 12 marines ends of the navy servicemen, we consider them one of. that's important. they are dead today. i know it's like to be on the battlefield bleeding out without the help of your friends and you're going to die. the least you can do is know why you're dying. no why you're be put in that situation. i'm disgusted. it's not about partisan

politics, maybe trump would have done worse, but the president, the presence joe biden the same dude that was vice president when they sent me and 39,999 others to win back the 2012 election, not the afghan war in 2010. it's personal for me. one thing i want people to understand, 13 service members died, and when we are on the offensive and finding a war, doing what we know, we have formations, tactics, procedures. if we are not meant to cattle guard. a visible choke point and help kids to get food and water and to pick them up over walls. that's not our job and we should not be put in that situation. these men never had a chance because they were doing something they were not trained and supposed to be doing because the entire situation isn't supposed to happen. you can't lie to me convincingly enough that there was no other way to do it. >> jesse: they are doing paperwork now looking at papers, pulling babies across the while you're come out there offense. when you saw the news about

these dead marines today, you want to go on offense and you want to push the perimeter back. i would say if i was the commander in chief the taliban screwed up. you blew the deal, you are supposed to provide security, you didn't do it. we are providing security. if we should manning checkpoints. the taliban should not be manning checkpoints. that's what happens when that happened. >> we're in in a full retreat. if that's the battle. a full retreat. if that's the case, get the hell out of there. right now at this moment. take my brothers and sisters out of there, and contractors, maybe they will save the americans i can be saved. fellow service members will not be able to do that, it's obvious. it's over the horizon capability, you can and go over the mountain range and find usama bin laden for 20 years. you do not know what's happening when you're in afghanistan. >> jesse: that's just a military phrase he heard in the

situation room. he is repeating to sound smart. know what the deal with with him. i'm afraid of as we're leaving on the aircraft, the last guys out, they're shooting at us as we leave. rpgs, howitzers. >> where did they come from? >> jesse: us, and that's a disgrace. thank you so much. former cia analyst and host of the block and clay show, and jack carr former navy seal sniper and task unit commander of afghanistan. the pentagon expects them to continue and they said it today. what's going on the ground now as opposed to 12 hours earlier? >> certainly they are through all the threats and reporting. we had a good since it was coming. when they say in counterterrorism circles we have a specific highly credible

threat and usually means that they are going to attack and its imminent. that certainly what happened today tragically. if the security situation on the ground if anything is likely to deteriorate. it's likely to get more complicated and stop these kinds of things from happening. we are reliant on the taliban and right now there's a lot of debate with the counterterrorism circles about whether this is a faction within the taliban, isis, isis-k, perhaps some element of the network working without telling the taliban. there is a lot of things that have to be determined here and certainly as we get closer to the deadline, there is a heightened desire i think for all the enemy is on the ground, the people who wish us harm, to see the u.s. simulated. if this a situation unfortunately where we do not have a clear pathway to prevent or put ourselves in a better position as we have been in the kind of attacks looking through the threat reporting and helping that a lot is going to be locked

be locked. >> jesse: they drew blood today, the enemy. we have not responded at all. what do you think is going down in a militant camp surrounding the airport? >> so far, it's devastating for the families obviously. we lost service members today, devastating for the country, going to be a stain on the history of the united states of america forever. we had a perfect environment for an attack like this because at the front gate, who's we need to get in? other american citizens, may be afghans who helped us over the last 20 years, their family, and regular afghans who do not want to live under the taliban regime. everybody the taliban wants to take out is right there. perfect location for the car bomb like this for multiple car bombs like this. going on the offense, we haven't been on the offense for quite some time. in 1947 we changed the department to the department of defense. if we change name of the

secretary of war to the secretary of defense. 1947. we built the military to come back to the soviet threat. if through mutual destruction essentially. on the time, we've been playing defense and that needs to change. we talk about accountability, politicians, not just to assign blame, that's what we owe the marines who was killed today, the navy medic who was killed today, we have to learn and evolve going forward for the next generation of marines, sailors, soldiers, airmen, and defense of the nation. >> jesse: japanese commanders would be falling on their swords or something like this happened. i don't know. i did not get any sort of confidence from the commander in chief today. he sounded listless, out of breath, struggling at times to gain his composure. then he said this which i do not

know actually landed a threat against the people that perpetrated today's attack. >> a place we choose in a moment of our choosing. here's what you need to know. these isis terrorists will not win. for those that carried out the attack, as well as anybody who wishes america harm, notice. we will not forgive. we will not forget. we will hunt you down, and make you pay. >> jesse: good line i want to see some action. thoughts? >> doesn't change any things. between now and the 31st of august. it doesn't help any allies trying to get out of there, but the long-term justice narrative may be helpful for biden speech. he ran on the security situation on the ground needs obvious and

immediate attention and prevent another mass casualty complex terrorist attack like we have seen here. you've got to wonder how the administration could be incompetent to this level where the best option we have for the secondary perimeter -- to jack's point, once they get off to the u.s. fence line at the air point, it's too late. the secondary perimeter of the taliban checkpoint, we have to ask them to do the job of security force. it's a bizarre world situation and only possible because the biden administration has completely dropped the football. that's putting it mildly. >> jesse: biden says we didn't it any differently. we expected this, we plan for this, i don't see how this is possible. we dribble the ball into the corner and clock has run out. guys, you're great, got to run. thank you. let's bring in stephen miller, former senior advisor to president trump. before we get to the refugee

situation, today the president was asked if he owned it. he said he owned it. then he blames your former boss. and donald trump. what's your reaction? >> i thought it was a truly imbecilic thing to say. it disgrace to the presidential bonnet in a moment that called for gravity and seriousness to say in one breath that i'm responsible, oh, no, i'm blaming donald trump. ironically this statement, he said how effective donald trump was because he admitted under president trump the taliban didn't lay a finger on americans. i know it's a isis attack according to the administration, but let's be clear, when president trump was in charge, the taliban understood if they let anybody get through to hurt americans, they would have died and never have happened ever. period. >> jesse: you've got massive amounts of refugees that are being loaded onto the plains, there is no human shields for

the taliban to explain, isis to exploit, that's how they basically set off the bombs today. their cover for what's happening. do you trust the administration to vet these people before they touched down on u.s. soil? >> not in the least. what i heard from the government sources about the evacuation is horrifying. over 100,000 afghan nationals were removed from the country and the vast majority of whom have rendered no meaningful assistance the united states government in the war effort. the only common thread among them was the taliban let them through and they wanted to leave afghanistan. that said, that's the qualifying criteria. this is madness. the one thing that joe biden said today is that afghanistan never had a successful history of being a democracy within a strong central government. that's a series of warring tribes, it's a warring fundamentalist extremists killing each other for generations. the notion we are going to

indiscriminately bring in a matter of days 100,000 into the united states and cross our fingers and hope it works out is clinically mad. we are going to have here the exact same problem they have in afghanistan. to believe anything else is simply to deny reason and logic. spew when you're saying sources are telling you this, that all these people we are loading into planes, many of them did not help us during the war effort? not the interpreters, not the drivers? not the intelligence gatherers? they are certainly some among them who are, but the majority are not. i'll tell you what emblematic story somebody said in the american passport holder was waving around there. passport hopefully not being trampled to death. so the only way they can get the passport holder and was to open

the gates and dozens of other afghan nationals rushed through and guess what? they ended up on planes. that kind of thing and similar stories play out all the time. it is clear it's not an orderly process. >> that's putting it politely. >> jesse: stephen miller, i was a pleasure. democrats have tried to lay blame at the feet of the trump administration. general keith kellogg former acting national security advisor helped negotiate the deal with the taliban and he joins me now. you negotiated the deal and biden says it's all your fault. your reaction? >> jesse, thanks for having me and first, let me say to the american people out there, they ought to get on their knees tonight and say thank you for the great american men and women and their families who serve in the nation because they are american heroes and they proved it again today. we came up with a plan and

bill hemmer laid out the plan earlier, it's a good solid plan and we worked with the taliban. it was a way to get out of afghanistan and certain gates and forcing functions. the last gate or forcing function were intraafghan negotiations between the taliban and the government which would end up with a coalition government protected by 2,500 u.s. troops, 3,500 paramilitary supported by the cia. the air support they would need and we would have kept bagram airbase open going forward. if we were not going to move until then. but the 1st of may, it was a target date. we would have moved as if the conditions were made but we were not moving until the conditions were met. that's where president biden misses. now it's conditions based and

again bill hemmer show that when he held up the six page document. president trump said it, john radcliffe said that, former dni, i've said it. look, that is the truth and just go check it out. it was >> jesse: trump's conditions based, the date was the arbitrary date that could've moved if the conditions were not met. biden came in and blew the date up and set a new date, no conditions. pulled all the air support out and pulled all the ground support out. basically boxed themselves into a corner without rescuing any stranded americans without initiation of a process to get afghans and american citizens out. leaving $80 million of weapons in the hands of terrorists. do i have that right? that's the stupidest military blunder in u.s. history, i don't know what. i do not know what that is,

that's pretty dumb. >> the other thing you should have done is picked up the phone. president biden called the political chief of the taliban and said the 31st of august 8 forget it, we are not going do it. we're going to leave when we get every american out and every person who's been allied with us. if you do not like it, then we push our own perimeter out there. given the security of the airport, to the network and the taliban is beyond me. if you do not do that. we plan our troops to liberally risk doing that. we should say we are not going to do that. the data changed and the security changed. >> jesse: imagine hunting taliban down in the mountains for 20 years and you take that same taliban guy and you say, okay, you're my security permit are now. it's the dumbest things i've ever heard, literally the dumbest thing i've ever heard. in a war zone.

okay, you want to say one more thing? you want to agree with me, it is the dumbest thing. speak of the security would have put out was a marine and 80 seconds. if they would handled it. >> jesse: so much talk about but we've got to run. appreciate it. joe biden was not the only democrat at a loss for words today. when we learned about the brave marines in afghanistan, here's what nancy pelosi said. >> it's great to be here with you, i have two special guests with me. both my daughter who has on her principal and way too she always wears. people say to me, how exciting is it to be up there? now the vice president of the united states kamala harris! woman made the difference in supporting a build back better agenda. if build back better for women. if people ask me what's in the water in san francisco.

>> jesse: managing director and fox news contributor raymond arroyo joins me now. i murmur barack obama got robbed for going to the fund-raiser during benghazi fist pumping at and all that stuff. nancy pelosi cracking jokes in san francisco, while the marines are dying. >> 13 souls go to die and we should be praying and thanking god for it and she should as well. this is a diversion tactic and what you're watching here is the sad final act, jesse, of the bush-obama-obama notion that you could nation build and somehow bring missouri to mesopotamia. they misread something crucial and we are watching it play out as we speak. that's culture and religion. its religious belief that's the force behind these jihadi warriors.

that's what animates the taliban. no matter how much you through into the desert, no matter how many secular beliefs, you're not going to have a rally in afghanistan. not going to happen. the taliban, i've been speaking today some of the religious scholars, military commanders who are in afghanistan, they say the same thing. they were amazed how the ragtag team of taliban could outflank the far larger and better armed afghan army. the reason was, they fought for belief, heaven, and they fought to kill the infidel and expel the people they consider occupiers. they are victorious today. because we had a bumbling exit, we should have held the land we had, gotten the people out, secure the military, destroyed every platform for them to exert and project terrorism.

airbases, military operations, weapons, all that should have been destroyed it but to miss the religious aspect is to miss the entire notion of why the taliban have been successful here. the afghan government, remember, the real name was the islamic republic of afghanistan and they were edging towards the taliban as well. lost on american policymakers as well. >> jesse: these are the people who went to the best schools and studied anthropology and they missed it. they totally missed it. they didn't see it as a bunch of greedy tribes motivated by religious fanaticism, sent in their way through centuries and they will switch sides if they give you them cash bribed. we knew it from the jump and i've never been to afghanistan. we gave them money, you know

what, everybody got rich in afghanistan. everybody got rich. the united states better find what it believes an end fight for that just as zealously as they taliban people. we are then handed states of america. "fox news primetime," i'm jesse watters, we will see you tomorrow on "the five." tucker carlson is ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." let's say you had deep animus against the united states. let's say you hate of the country you wanted to permanently knock the u.s. from its perch as the preeminent world power and then degrade and humiliate america for good. if you might use afghanistan to do that and if you wanted to, here's what you might do. first you would delay your withdrawal from afghanistan for 19 years, long after there was any national security justification for