what, everybody got rich in afghanistan. everybody got rich. the united states better find what it believes an end fight for that just as zealously as they taliban people. we are then handed states of america. "fox news primetime," i'm jesse watters, we will see you tomorrow on "the five." tucker carlson is ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." let's say you had deep animus against the united states. let's say you hate of the country you wanted to permanently knock the u.s. from its perch as the preeminent world power and then degrade and humiliate america for good. if you might use afghanistan to do that and if you wanted to, here's what you might do. first you would delay your withdrawal from afghanistan for 19 years, long after there was any national security justification for being there.

you would turn a war into a welfare program and you would turn your military into an ngo, that would him elliott ever but involved. you would spend trillion dollars -- truman's of dollars to do this but you would get nothing in return from that money apart frm dramatically increasing corruptd opium. you would run afghanistan so badly with such unbelievable stupidity and overbearing arrogance that by the end, much of the population would yearn for the return of brutal religious extremists. then when it was finally time to go, you would ignore the relevant details of the withdrawal. if you wouldn't plan the exit, you would just hope for the best buried what could go wrong in a country controlled by the taliban? when crowds of desperate people showed up, as they notably would, begging to be evacuated, you big certain to give preference to the foreign nationals, the ones who might hate you and prefer sharia law to democracy. they would get the first seats

on the plane. as for your own citizens, the people you exist to protect? you just wish them luck and leave them behind. you wouldn't even bother to get all of their names, because really who cares? then having done all of that, you go on television back in your own country to brag about what an amazing job you've done. you call yourself a hero. you compare your evacuation of kabul to the berlin airlift. and that way, once you've done that, the rest of the world would know you are not simply incompetent and weak but you're also delusional. you are a lunatic with no self-respect. having learned all that, your enemies just might conclude that now is the perfect time to take advantage of your diminished condition, and today in kabul they did just that. a terror bombing at the airport killed 90 people and injured 150 more. 13 of the dead were american servicemen, 12 marines and a needy corpsman. for the u.s. military, it was the single deadliest day in afghanistan in a decade, it was

a tragedy and we saw it on television. in moments like this, americans turn and stink to play to their president for perspective and leadership. it doesn't matter if they voted for him, they want to be reassured by the man in charge. but joe biden did not reassure them. he didn't even appear. for hours, biden remained hidden and silent. finally the white house announced that joe biden would speak to the country at 5:00 p.m. this afternoon, but even then, he didn't show. joe biden was fully 25 minutes late to the podium, like he had better things to do, and when he spoke, it was hard to believe this is the man in charge of our country. joe biden is fading before our eyes. he began my muttering something irrelevant and weird about his late son beau, who he described as the u.s. attorney in xhosa vote, as if that position exists. and then biden pledged -- speaking of pays half of what a normal person speaks at that he was going to somehow hunt down and punish the people who killed

our marines today. and all of a sudden this didn't sound like a withdrawal from afghanistan at all. >> president biden: to those who carried out this attack, as well as anyone who wishes america harm, no this: we will not forgive. we will not forget. we will hunt you down, and make you pay. >> tucker: no you won't, unfortunately. the tragedy today was not a complete surprise. there was intelligence suggesting it might happen just hours before the attack, the u.s. embassy in kabul, which now operates from the airport, sent out the following alert. ", because of security threats we are advising u.s. citizens to avoid traveling to the airport and to avoid airport gates at this time. u.s. citizens were at the abbey gate, the east gate, or the north gate, now should leave immediately." that turned out to be relevant intelligence. what to the pentagon do with it?

not much apparently, they were too busy tweeting about equity. this morning, the sergeant major of the army, a man called michael princeton wrote this. "women's equality day reminds us we are smarter and more lethal when we come together as an inclusive, cohesive team." so some large, but as yet still unknown, number of american citizens are trapped in afghanistan, all of them facing potential death and here we have the senior nco in the united states army celebrating women's equity day, whatever that is. send in the pregnant fighter pilots. it's also humiliating, serious people are laughing at us, which is probably the point of doing it. on the other hand, joe biden doesn't really need the u.s. military to protect the kabul airport because the taliban now have that covered. general kenneth mckenzie explained this today at a press conference. >> it was a failure by the taliban operate with varying degrees confidence, some of those guys are very scrupulously good, some of them are not. >> tucker: some of those

taliban guys are very scrupulously good. that was the official word from the biden administration. keep in mind, what you just heard from the general, he said after the taliban let the suicide bomber through a checkpoint at the airport that killed 13 americans, but still, we are going to trust them. the biden administration trusted the taliban enough, tonight, apparently to share classified intelligence with them. again, here's general mckenzie. >> the other thing we do is we share versions of this information with the taliban so that they can actually do some searching out there for us and we believe that some attacks have been thwarted by them and that we also use the taliban as a tool to protect us as much as possible. we share a common purpose. as long as we kept that common purpose aligned, they've been useful to work with. they've got some of our security concerns down. >> tucker: so we now share a common purpose with the taliban, that's the head of the u.s. military telling us that.

so naturally, the taliban are now in charge of protecting our citizens. hey america, we have new bodyguards. the bad news is, they are the taliban. it's hard to believe any of this is actually happening, whether that clip we played israel, but it is happening and that clip we played israel. so what kind of information as they biden administration handing over to that taliban. the u.s. gave the taliban a list of u.s. citizens, green card holders, and afghan allies, to grant entry into the outer perimeter of the city's airport. wait, what? we gave the taliban the names of u.s. citizens in afghanistan? you don't have special operators anymore? why are we doing that, why would we give it to the taliban? that can't be right. while it is right, it's true. the biden administration handed the taliban a list of americans were still in afghanistan. joe biden all but confirmed that today. apparently it makes the taliban's job easier. of the question is what is that job? that's one of many questions tonight.

u.s. army veteran who served in iraq, definitely one of the good guys, we are honored to have him on our show tonight. joe kent, thanks for coming on. you're the first in our lineup this evening so i would ask you for your baseline perceptions here. what do you think of what you've seen today? >> well today has been an absolute tragedy, but unfortunately we are seeing over nearly two decades of lies come unraveling. the u.s. military has been saying for nearly two decades we've built this afghan government and this afghan army and that they were worthy of the sacrifice of our brave young men and women and that they would hold, and then we are also seeing the lives of the biden administration, unfolding as well. there was a hard plan and a deal to get us out by may, but biden did not want to execute president trump's plan to get us out by may. the deal that he negotiated from a position of strength. instead he wanted to cut a separate deal, his own deal, they gave the taliban three months of prime fighting season time to plan this assault that we are seeing now and now we are complete we at the mercy of the

taliban and our troops are hostages essentially, and we are not taking proactive steps to go on the offensive to get our people out of there. we are prioritizing refugees and anyone but americans, it's an absolute disgrace. >> tucker: it does seem pretty clear that in a situation like this, obviously it's complex, lots of moving parts. you know, i always give people the benefit of the doubt to some extent, you know, it's hard. but any normal person who left his country would say job one is getting our citizens out. that comes before everything else, there's no question. anybody, any normal person would decide to do that but they haven't. why? >> that's absolutely correct. the only reason that i can think of is just a culture that the biden administration has set from day one. they opened up our southern border, they are letting thousands of illegal refugees in that way, illegal immigrants pushed in by the cartel. the biden demonstrations national security establishment ran by lloyd austin, antony blinken, sullivan, all of them, they are part of the culture that believes america is a power

in descent and we are not unique nation nation or an important nation that culture has echoed throughout the national security apparatus and now we are prioritizing getting afghans out of the country and the only reason that i can think of to get all of these unvented afghans out as fast as we are trying to get them out is to pump even more refugees into the heartland of this country. that seems to be the top priority of this admin's ration and again, it's a complete and total disgrace and it's completely and totally reckless. >> tucker: so you're part of the despised groups that actually fights our words, working-class kids from the pacific northwest, you joined young, got married, your wife was killed fighting one of these wars. i mean, how much of their contempt do you feel personally as you watch them make these decisions? >> i feel an incredible amount of contempt and resentment. so my wife was killed about a month after trump attempted to get our troops out of syria the first time. every time we attempt to end a war, the military-industrial complex fails catastrophically. under trump, they doublecrossed him and lied every step of the way to leave our troops in

harm's way. he tried to get us out of afghanistan as well. he finally came up with the deal to get us out in may. the military-industrial complex has no like to present biden. they did not prepare us to get out right now according to biden 'timeline. biden shouldn't have never made that deal, they should have got us out in may. and they shouldn't apply to a duly elected present, that's president trump, not president biden. they should have had a plan to get us out but it's clear that they didn't. i can feel the contempt. the unelected bureaucrats, they treat us just as cannon fodder to make their political gains and we do not have to take that anymore. this is our country and we need to start taking it back. it's all crumbling apart right now, the illegitimacy of the biden administration and the illegitimacy of our permanent ruling class. >> tucker: man, you are making me upset just hearing those words because they are so clearly true and i think anyone listening tonight who's lived in this country for the last 20 years knows that what you said is exactly right and my last question to you, not to increase

the level of bitterness here, but there are a lot of people responsible for the debacle now that we are seeing for the death of those 13 marines, the navy corpsman, today. and you wonder if any of them will ever be held accountable for what they did. >> they will be held accountable. we are going to take the house in the senate back in 2022 and we are going to hold a full inquiry on all of our wars starting with this incident, starting with this bust withdrawal and essentially working our way backwards. we know that we've been lied to about afghanistan for years now. the afghan papers that came out last year that the media ran coverage for, that all started to expose the lies, we know iraq was based on lies, there will be a continuity when we take our country back and that's why i'm running for congress, to take this nation back. >> tucker: we are rooting for you, joe kent of washington state, thank you so much. >> thank you so much, tucker. >> tucker: doug mcgregor is a retired army colonel, former senior advisor to the secretary of defense, he's compared to crisis in afghanistan, the benghazi disaster under the obama administration, he joins

us tonight. doug, thanks so much for coming on, how would you assess what you are seeing now tonight? >> you are seeing the lapses in security in the absence of realistic planning, bad leadership from the top, a failure to outline specifically what the goal was, which i think very clearly was to get all of the american citizens and allied citizens out before we withdrew any military power. all of this looks a lot like benghazi on steroids. >> tucker: i guess that's -- and not to keep repeating it, but i'm going to continue to until i get a real answer. i don't understand why you would withdraw military force before every american wants to leave has left. that your duty? isn't it like the captain abandoning his ship and leaving the passengers to go to the bottom? what is this? >> there's no question, tucker, but i think general mckenzie answered your question, how is this possible. it strikes me that he concocted and the planners that work for him, a rosy scenario. normally when you operate in

this kind of environment, you look at the worst-case analysis. you plan for the worst thing the enemy can do to you and then you backward plan from that. >> tucker: right. >> why was our perimeter so close to the taliban? why wasn't the taliban told to stay at least 2,003,000 meters away from the airfield? we had no standoff, where was the ac 130 in the air? why didn't we have some mobile armored firepower on the ground in the form of bradleys or tanks? you can fly them in and fly them out when you're finished. i don't understand what was going on. it strikes me that no one seemed to think this was really a dangerous environment. the only thing i can conclude is that this half-assed operation was mckenzie's fault primarily but he's also got the secretary of defense, i assume that he briefed him, in which case the secretary of defense should be removed. and i know millie is very unpopular with lots of people, he's just advisor. apparently he didn't give very good advice.

you should clean house. this is reminiscent of what happened to jfk at the bay of pigs. he did not immediately clean house, but eventually he had to. i think we are in the same position right now. >> tucker: do you think -- i mean, this is so humiliating for the united states. i know you had advocated for withdrawal from afghanistan, so it's not like you're calling for permanent war there, you are in the opposite side but the way we get out is so damaging to this country on every level that it almost seems like it was on purpose. are not a conspiracy person, but how could you do something like this? how could you imagine any other outcome than this? >> you know, i think people will say well, there were people actively trying to present us with a failure. i'm not sure that's the case. i think we look a lot like the british expeditionary force at dunkirk. by the time they reached the channel, the only thing that saved them at the time was hitler's decision to halt. had the germans continued, they would have had a quarter of a

million british prisoners. they were saved by a miracle, we can't depend on miracles in afghanistan, we got to save ourselves, and we haven't done a very good job of it, so we look feckless, we look incompetent but i think our french and british allies privately are shaking their heads in disbelief because they actually handle this much better than we have. >> tucker: how distressing to hear that. how do you think this will play out from your? >> well, we will get out and the taliban is probably going to do business with the countries around it. how that will turn out i don't know, but i know that the indians, the russians, and the iranians are all very sensitive to the real threat in the region which emanates from pakistan. if that's the wellspring of sunni islamist terrorism and the taliban is funded by them. that's been the problem from day one and we've never come to terms with that, and here we are 20 years later, 2 trillion in the hole, tens of thousands of wounded and killed and what do we got for it? nothing. >> tucker: do you think we

will get all the americans out? >> i hope so. i'm sure there are people on the ground there. i know them in the army in the marines, people that i knew when i was in active duty, would say we are not leaving until we are certain that every american is out. it will they be allowed to do that are they going to be told by the secretary of defense, general mckenzie, i'm sorry you have to leave. that i don't know, but if you leave it to the soldiers in the marines on the ground, hell yes. >> tucker: last question, i know that the bite in the administration unfortunately has not called you for advice, they ought to, but if you are giving advice to the administration right now what would you tell them to do? >> first of all they need to stick with the withdrawal but they need to make it a precondition they will not leave until we have successfully extradited every american citizen. if there's any -- we will take whatever action is required against them. i don't think the taliban is stupid. i think this point they

recognized they want what they want and they are liable to go along with it but at the same time you can't a perfect was, you can't appear weak. donald trump never did that. it was always a voice of strength and influence and power. we need that desperately right now and that's absent at the top. >> tucker: yeah, get our people out, amen. thank you so much for that. >> yes, sir. >> tucker: in his remarks today, which once again were 25 minutes late, because, you know, joe biden was busy, the president vowed to "hunt down those responsible" for killing 13 americans today in kabul. in a matter of days it seems like we've gone from withdrawing to being pulled back into war. mitch mcconnell, for exam, they had put republican in the senate tweeted this. "president needs to clearly and firmly state the united states will stay as long as it takes in afghanistan. well, that's an interesting response. your hearing a lot of that, by the way. unfortunately from a lot of republicans on capitol hill. this proves that we need to stay in afghanistan.

what to make of this? jesse kelly is a host of the jesse kelly show, he joins us tonight. thanks so much for coming on. you are watching this. what you think this means? what is going on here exactly? >> politics. no patriotism at all, no love of country at all. this is all politics, tucker. that's why i'm is full of hate and rage right now as i have been probably since 9/11. i know for a fact either mothers or wives or somebody like that, they are getting a phone call tonight or will be getting a phone call shortly they're going to find out husband is never coming home again. daddy is never coming home again. my son is never coming home again and i know for a fact the scumbags in the white house who run this country, they are sitting around a table as we speak, and they are not worried about mommy, they're not worried about daddy, they're not worried about that kid, they haven't shed a single tear for anybody, they're worried about poll numbers. they are worried what pulls well, how are we doing with middle-aged women and how do you think we did with black people tonight? how do you think we did -- these people discussed me. they discussed me as much as the

taliban discussed me. i'm so grossed out by the people who lead this country, are warriors deserve so much better. >> tucker: they certainly do. it does feel like potentially a turning point, this reveals such rot underneath. our credential class, their claim to power is their expertise, they are good at stuff you are not. what do you know, you are jesse kelly, you used to sell rvs, shut up and obey. they just reveal that they have no idea what they're doing, they can even withdraw from afghanistan. so what changed you imagine going forward this will spur? >> absolutely nothing. they put joe biden in there on purpose. they put in this old man who is clearly half functional instead of dependable, we got depends in the white house. the guy has no idea what he is doing in the back of planet kamala harris who quite literally laid down to get the job. there's no plan and that's what's amazing right now, none of them, not one of them, not

lloyd austin, or millie or anyone of these idiots, none of them are looking in the mirror as you and i are talking and looking at themselves and saying i think are really screwed up. they are all worried about their own where wrens and their pensions and their career and there's no patriotism anymore and it makes me want to vomit. >> tucker: lloyd austin, at the height of this two days ago, reminded us that the real threat is not the taliban, it's white super missy in america, its trunk voters, said that out loud. >> millie was in front of congress testifying about white rage and how he wants to understand white rage buried we are finding out what that's getting us. there are only so many hours in the day, you either you're digging into white rage are digging into actually find a way to [indiscernible] your people from afghanistan without getting american citizens slaughtered, brave marines slaughtered, our allies slaughter. this is more than just a national embarrassment. it's an international investment. i can't even imagine what the military planners in china are pouring into the ears of xi jinping right now because i have to be honest, if i were them i'd be landed on the shores

of taiwan tomorrow know when we have a half dead person in the white house. if >> tucker: yeah, if you live in taipei you might be wanting to find lots of bit coin and picking up a condo in santa monica right about now. they get so much for that. good to see you. so the u.s. military tells us that isis affiliate in afghanistan that they are calling isis-k was a response of a for today's terror attack at the kabul airport. the case stands for -- near the pakistan and afghanistan border. according to the u.n., isis-k has around 22,000 fighters in afghanistan. so what is this, isis-k, and how long are we going to stay in afghanistan to fight them? jim hansen served in the u.s. army special forces, he's the president of security studies group and we are happy to have them join us tonight. thanks so much for coming on. isis-k, a lot of americans hadn't heard that phrase until today or yesterday. what is this and how are we going to respond to it?

>> tucker, isis-k is a bunch of taliban guys who thought that the taliban wasn't savage and barbaric enough for them, so they split off and formed their own group and i guess if they got in control rather than just shooting women in the back of the head at a soccer stadium, they might do life beheadings on pay-per-view. they are obviously a menace and i think we need to go ahead and consider them, you know, the prime threat to u.s. troops on the ground right now. but remember one thing. joe biden made a deal with the taliban to provide security for all of us around that airport, so whoever those isis-k suicide bombers who got in today, they had to pass through some taliban checkpoints to get where they are going, so i don't think the taliban gets a walk on this. there's blood on their hands as well. >> tucker: how do you respond to apparently the fact that the biden administration handed the taliban a list of americans still in the country, their

names? >> tucker, biden gave the entire game away to the taliban. now, they had him in a very bad position. they told him if you don't give us what we want, we are going to start fighting again in the last thing he wanted was any fighting going on, because then the military would win the argument and we would have stayed, so what he did his he made a deal with them in qatar and he said we will give you what you want, we will give you a clear path to kabul and you can have the country, we will ground the afghan air force, we will shut down -- and we will let your leader fly back from qatar full of cash. he gave the game away from a lame promise that never got delivered that they would take care and let americans get out. they didn't do that, they didn't do anything. biden got taken to the cleaners and americans are dying now. >> tucker: so what's the point of having what we typically referred to as the most powerful military in the world -- i don't know if that's actually true or not, but we say that it's

true -- what's the point of having a military this well-funded, certainly the most expensive, if you have to make deals that include flying back taliban leadership with cash? what is the point of military strength if you have to do that? >> the problem is you want military strength as the united states. what you need is political will to use it to deter our enemies because they are scared of those hell fire and you will rain down on them if you cross us and we don't have that. we don't have that. we have a doddering, drooling fool as commander in chief who is now giving away even worse -- you know, he's given away at afghanistan, which we didn't need, but he's given away american credibility and deterrence so now our enemies aren't scared, tyrants are emboldened in our allies know they can't trust us. having a potent military is useless if you don't have the correct people running it and using it properly. >> tucker: i know you do

national security for a living, not politics, but what do you make of the number of prominent democrats, the other channels which have effectively arms of the dnc, attacking joe biden all of a sudden to they defended every decision biden has made, opening the southern border, gas prices, inflation -- whatever buried they are attacking him on this. as i because they are neocons above all? is it because they want to replace biden? do you have any guesses as to what's going on? >> they are political tools, tucker. they are just doing it now because biden has become a liability. they thought they could put him in and safely hold the white house and get their agenda in play and now he has become a problem. he's not only screwed up all the political domestic issues that you mentioned, but now he's made us the one thing americans won't tolerate; weak, pathetic looking thing on the world stage that's not something even the democrats are going to put up with.

the problem is they hit kamala harris as much as the rest of us do and they don't want to put her in. so they are stuck between a rock and a hard place and unfortunately that's going to hurt the united states as much it's going to hurt them. if >> tucker: i haven't asked her husband, i've never met anybody who likes kamala harris -- maybe they're out there, i haven't met them. great to see you tonight, thank you so much. >> good to be with you. if >> tucker: if you want to know where the media comes down on this, maybe the greatest bias in the american press corps is in favor of war. we are just for war, that's our position, so the very first question that joe biden got today came from nbc news was essentially why don't you escalate the war in afghanistan, the one that we are purportedly withdrawing from and deploying more troops? it's interesting. so the media, which of course play on the emotions of decent people and all decent people are highly upset about what's going on right now, are now trying to convince you there's no possible way america can leave

afghanistan after 20 years. are we miss reading that? it seems like that's what's going on. glenn greenwald has been pinko's attention, independent journalist who writes, as you doubtless no, it's abstract. he made it famous, thanks so much for coming on. so look, you can believe that we needed to get out, which i certainly did, immediately, and still think this is a horrible way to do it, but i have to say, watching the press corps in washington, i don't think they want to get out at all. that's my impression, is that yours? >> absolutely. you know, i think the comments that your first guest made, as they usually are were extremely insightful because if you notice, he was critical of the plan to withdraw, but he put that into the proper context, which is that it's not like just as last part got messed up, it's been 20 years of ongoing fraud and lies deliberately on the part of the government with both parties, and especially whatever you want to call it, the deep states, the national security blob, to keep this war going.

they lied about iraq in the beginning, they lied about the progress they claimed they were making in afghanistan and so i think the key there is that that is the political party to which the media is most loyal when it comes to foreign affairs. it's not democrats or republicans, both of whom, by the way, have many people wanting to stay as well. it's the military and the cia, those of the people with whom the corporate media, vast majority of them, or most closely aligned, guess who's ideology they most aggressively and loyally disseminate? >> tucker: if you talk to guys like joe kent, you know, there are the people, the individuals, who are so misused by the system, by the media, by the foreign policy establishment, they are the ones who got killed, his wife was killed. i got to think that's why cnn is being so tough on joe biden. i mean they haven't said word one about joe biden but all of a sudden they are mad at joe biden? is it that he touched the third rail for them, which is withdrawal?

>> look, i think the key thing we have to remember is there were three presidents consecutively, obama, trump, and biden, who all won national elections based on a promise to leave afghanistan because the majority of the country on an overwhelming bipartisan basis has been done with the war. obama didn't get it done, couldn't get it done. trump is the one who started negotiations, to his great credit, with the taliban and reached a deal and then biden carried it forward in this whole time, all of their friends at cnn and msnbc, the general state employed, the cia operatives they employed, the sources on who they relied happen working to undermine and sabotage it. joe can't just -- they just ignored him, they lied to trump and kept those troops there. we obviously lied in iraq and they lied in afghanistan and they could never have gotten away with it had the media not been there partners the entire time endorsing and sanctifying those lies and so when you look today, were they putting on the air? people like h.r. mcmaster and all of the same people who are

responsible for the fraud over the last 20 years to again tell us what to do and of course that is to remain in afghanistan and keep fighting, which benefits them and their friends. >> tucker: i've noticed. what you think is going to happen? if you had to guess as to where we are say in a month or six months in afghanistan, what would you guess? >> i mean i don't think there's any real possibility that biden is going to change his mind, and i hope he doesn't as i think everyone of your guests has set about leaving. we have almost no force there, they are sitting ducks. they would have to search a huge amount, but i think they've generated enough anger, everyone watching those images feels disgust and anger, whatever group they are going to blame, whatever new group they are going to have and want to keep bombing and doing counterterrorism operations that's only going to make matters worse, that's why some people around the world hate us, because we drop bombs on their country with so much frequency and that is what donald trump's main promise was, to bring our troops home and spend our money improving our own country and

not trying to manage everyone else's. >> tucker: i've got to add it, and i never want to be a conspiracy not at all, but everything you said is true so far, so is it worth at least wondering, this is such an obvious scrub, you and i have no experience running military resistance and withdrawal, i can't even organize my garage, but even you and i would probably do a better job of withdrawing than these guys. it was comically bad. is it possible that they had an interest in making it bad to justify future engagement? or is that too much to even speculative out? >> well it is speculation, as journalists, i try to avoid -- unlike h.r. mcmaster, who went on cnn and said oh, i think the taliban was involved in this attack but here's what i do know for sure, tucker, for the last seven years, the cia has been doing things exactly like what you just described, concocting events, manufacturing conflicts, all to induce the american

people to rise up in anger and support whatever wars that they wanted. so can they say that they did it in this case? no, i don't have yet the evidence, will have it at some point but don't yet, but i can deftly tell you it's fully within the character of the deep state operatives to do this. if they've been doing it forever and that's why we have to stop trusting them. >> tucker: exactly. i mean, it was always going to be back, withdrawal is bad, it's bad. there's no reason for it to be this bad, so it does make a dash of deftly makes you wonder. i appreciate it, thank you. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: so americans are very decent people come into their great and enduring credit, and as they watch what's happening on television, their hearts have swelled with sympathy. and again, that's not sarcastic, it's real. you live in a country where people really care about people they never met before. and that's why it's a great country, because it is filled with great and compassionate people even if they reach different conclusions from what you would reach. so in the last week, a small number of americans have headed to afghanistan and the region to

help evacuate people who are trapped there, because the bike in the administration just isn't doing that very effectively. glenn beck is one of those, one of those americans trying to help. his charity, the nazarene fund, it's already helped rescue thousands of afghan christians from the country. when back joins us now from a location in the region. we will leave it there. glenn beck, thank you very much for coming on. so you just headed over there at the drop of the hat. you were texting me on the way, i was kind of amazed. tell us what you've seen since you've been there. what have you learned? what's it like to >> i'm not in afghanistan, i'm in one of the countries in the region that are actually taking these people as refugees at [indiscernible] just to get them off of the tarmac. they do not want to be identified because they are concerned about the new coming terror that is going to be happening in the region. i will tell you that we have pulled out 5100 people,

christians, women, children, and put them on planes. what you are seeing there is one of the last planes that took off before the bombing, or bombings today. we had about 500 refugees, women and children mainly, and we have them inside of the airport today and one military official asked them -- didn't ask them -- ordered them to go back on the other side of the gate. i have pictures of them this morning pleading to get back through the gate and then i have pictures of blood and body parts and nothing but death in that same area. we believe that our state department is directly responsible for what we believe were some of these people -- i don't know how many survived.

>> tucker: have you been able to get a sizable number of christians out of afghanistan? it seems like that's a group that would need to leave. >> 5100. >> tucker: wow. >> the country that i'm in right now is at their limit. there were only three countries. the state department has blocked us every step of the way. the state department and the white house have been the biggest problem. if everyone else, everyone else, has been working together, putting aside differences and trying to get these people to safety. the state department and the white house have blocked us every single step of the way. in fact, an ambassador was called in macedonia last night and told not to accept any of these people as we were trying to get them off of the tarmac here to keep the airport flowing and getting these christians out. we haven't really been able to move anybody for about 12 hours.

our mission is now changing greatly. we have to send people into even greater danger to try to smuggle these christians out who are marked not just for death, but to be set on fire alive because they are converted christians. if also tomorrow and getting back onto another plane, so you know, not funded by the nazarene fund, nothing i'm doing here -- i am paying for this here. copeland ministries has let me borrow their jet, but we are going someplace else to open up two countries, and i don't even want to say who they are, because i'm afraid our state department will call them and threaten them. but we are going to move these people to new homes and they are going to be a blessing to some country. i don't know why we have open borders -- i mean, it's really interesting. we have open borders and closed airports. one group of people are exploited, raped, and killed by drug cartels and the other group of people are raped, exploited

or crucified by terrorists. it seems to be a pattern with the biden administration. >> tucker: so it's llama countries, muslim countries, are more eager to accept christians. >> this country that i'm in, i begged them last night to let me tell them -- tell the world who they are. they have more compassion for these christians than our american government. it is insulting, embarrassing, and wrong. so i believe what our government is doing now is out and out evil. >> tucker: i hope you will tell us what country that is, glenn beck, godspeed, thank you. >> thank you. >> tucker: more on the unfolding tragedy in afghanistan in just a minute and then after many months of demanding the name of the capitol hill police officer who shot unarmed ashley babbitt on january 6th -- we

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>> tucker: we are monitoring the unfolding tragedy in afghanistan tonight. there are new calls for members of the biden administration and the pentagon to step down after how gravely they've mismanaged all of this. will anyone be punished for this national humiliation? that's ahead in just a moment. but first, until today, we couldn't say -- could not confirm -- who shot ashley babbitt to death in the capitol building on january 6th. now we know the officer's name, not because the authority is released it, but because he felt like revealing himself. and he did with this and pathetic friends at nbc news. his name is michael. if that name rings a bell, you may have read it in the paper because it's the same michael burke the capitol police officer who left his loaded glock 22, loaded with no safety, in the men's room in the capitol building in 2019. if you handle firearms for a

living, you know there's no greater sin than that, to leave it in a men's room and not report it? but he wasn't punished. reportedly told his fellow officers at the time that he would not be punished. he was right. he said he would be "treated differently" because of his rank, he was a lieutenant buried in his interview with nbc news, that same michael byrd explained why he shot and killed ashley babbitt. >> we see your arm out there for a considerable amount of time. >> were you wavering? >> i was taking tactical stands. we were ultimately hoping that your commands will be complied with and unfortunately they were not. >> when you fired, what could you see? where were you aiming? >> we are taught to aim for center mass. the subject was sideways and i could not see her full motion of her hands or anything. so i guess her movement, you know, caused the discharge to

fall where it did. >> and what did you think this individual was doing at that moment? >> she was posing a threat to the united states house of representatives. >> tucker: oh, she was posing a threat. she was 5'2", she was unarmed, there were armed police and tactical gear standing right next to her on the other side of the door and of course within the chamber where michael byrd was. she was not warned, the tape shows that, she was just executed, but she was a threat. that's what is telling you. you'd think the fact again, she was a female who was 5'2", weighed 125 pounds soaking wet and had no weapon, might have suggested that she wasn't a threat, but according to michael byrd, no, never occurred to him. >> her family points out that she was not armed. >> that's correct. >> the fact you weren't aware whether she was armed or not, did not alter the decision-making? >> it did not.

>> tucker: yeah, it didn't alter it at all. she was in arnhem protester, i don't think we execute unarmed protesters, do we? we just did. no one has apologized for it. he's a hero! and any other circumstances, imagine how the married can media, which does seem to be the main mortal arbiter in this country at this point, how would they treat an officer like this? but michael byrd executed a member of the biden administration -- this might be surprising for you to learn, michael byrd is the real victim here, he's the real victim. in his interview with nbc news, michael byrd agreed that he's the is the real victim. >> can you give us the nature of some of those threats? >> they talked about, you know, killing me, cutting off my head, you know, very vicious and cruel things. >> racist things? >> there were some racist attacks as well. it's all disheartening because i know i was doing my job.

>> given the nature of the threats that you describe come up do you have any concern about showing her face in identifying yourself? >> of course i do. if that is a very vital point and it's something that is frightening. i believe i showed the utmost courage on january 6th. >> tucker: i showed the utmost courage by executing an unarmed woman without warning her first. that's the utmost courage. if we live in a country where we let that pass, that's courage -- no, that's not courage. we can argue about whether it was justified or not. nobody is arguing, people are just praising him, including were public and members of congress who are ashamed of themselves. but we call that courage? we devalue the term. aaron babbitt is the husband, and the family attorney, to both join us now thanks for coming on. if first question to you, how

did you feel when the nbc news anchor asks the officer who shot your wife to death, your unarmed wife to death without warning her first before shooting her, asked him isn't he the real victim here, isn't he the one who is really suffering? how did that make you feel, i'm just kind of wondering. >> pissed off. i've only heard a couple of clips at this point. it's not airing until 7:00 out here. i read the full transcript of it. i had not heard that one clip that you just played in my education level is actually going through the roof right now where he admitted he didn't really care if she was armed or not or unarmed or not. he didn't care. so yeah, we are going down a bad rabbit hole right now. >> tucker: yeah, especially if the national media congratulated him for this in the entire left as one gloats over your wife's death as if she deserved it because she voted for the wrong person. i mean, they're kind of saying -- i'm sorry to make you

feel even worse, i can't imagine how you feel now, but they're kind of saying that she deserved it and her life had no meaning. what all said they said? >> they've been saying that. they've been saying that all along. and i don't even want to hear him talk about how he's getting death threats and he's scared. i've been getting death threats since january 7th, 2, 3, 5, 10 a day and all i did on january 6th was become a widower, so you're going to have to suck it up, blood, and take it. >> tucker: yeah, well -- mr. roberts, let me ask you. we know michael byrd's name -- by the way, the fact that he left a loaded firearm with no safety in a men's room and never reported it and kept his job anyway tells you something's very long with the capitol police, that's totally outrageous, but i want to ask was an attorney who is involved with these cases, when was the last time you saw a police officer involved in a fatal shooting whose identity wasn't revealed to the public ever? it was never revealed, he decided to reveal it. has that ever happened that you are aware of?

>> not to my knowledge, i've never seen it. not once. >> tucker: so what could possibly be the justification -- i mean, police shootings all the time and we've defended a lot of cops who have been involved -- not all. some. but their names are always public. are they public officials? on what basis can you hide the name of a cop involved in shooting a citizen? >> it's just unprecedented. it's never happened. and i think the u.s. congress has to take was possibility for that. capitol police are organized under the congress. they have ultimate responsibility for that fact. it's a shame. >> tucker: so aaron, i forgot to ask you, have any numbers of congress, and elected officials, reached out to you to say you know, we are going to get to the bottom of this because we care because she was a veteran and a citizen and your wife and her life had meaning. it you know, her life mattered i guess would be one way to put it. has anybody stuck up for you at all in any way? >> not to me personally that i've spoken with, but you know,

dr. [indiscernible] is actively, you know, talking to my mother-in-law, so he is deftly helping, we've got [indiscernible] and marjorie taylor greene. so there's a couple. i mean, it's half a percent of 99.5%, so it's not -- it's not enough. so when he all the help we can get buried it's a goliath. david versus goliath fight with got going on here. we have a legal fund. if we can push it, go to the twitter page, check out the legal fund, we need every dollar we can get because we are going to have to the weight of the u.s. government coming down on us. >> tucker: they've taken enough from you. you're not allowed to just shoot people and blow it off like it's no big deal because you don't like the politics. >> [indiscernible] the capitol police buried >> tucker: i appreciate your coming on tonight, i'm sorry about all of this. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: fox news alert for you, americans still afghanistan are bracing for more attacks,

the head of u.s. central command said he expects the terrorists some group will continue to fire u.s. military aircraft and would attempt to take one down. in an attack this morning, as you know, 13 americans were killed, 12 u.s. marines, and one navy corpsman, a medic. joe biden spoke today and said "the mission will go on." a few days ago the national security visor jake sullivan explained that the biden demonstration doesn't actually test the taliban, hard to keep up. that was his position then. >> the president has been very clear about his views of the taliban. you've asked him repeatedly do you trust these guys and he's told you repeatedly know i do not, of course he does not. of course none of us do. >> tucker: okay, so we don't trust the taliban. now we trust and the taliban enough to put them in charge of security at the airport and as a result today 13 americans were killed. so that's where we are right now. why hasn't anyone in the bike demonstration been fired over

this? congress men from florida, without we would ask him that question. congressman, thanks so much for coming on sunday. you would think after a series of errors this grotesque, misjudgments and calamities that ensued, that someone would have resigned. is anyone going to resign do you think? >> you would think that that would happen but of course they're not going to resign and i know it was not too long ago, but just think that trump was impeached for a phone call and we have the illegal invasion of our southern border that's violating federal law and you have an administration that's intentionally violating federal law on our southern border and now you have 13 service members who have died because of the failure of leadership of the biden administration. i served -- in the military i served in operation iraqi freedom and it can't tell you how frustrated i am today, how frustrated i have been during this entire calamity. all they had to do was follow what the trump administration had negotiated and they did not because heaven forbid doing something that trump negotiated

and now we have 13 service member's who have died we are actually relying upon the taliban to give us information and allow our americans to get through their security that they've set up. we have americans who are still stuck behind enemy lines and our government and our president is doing absolutely nothing about it. >> tucker: yeah, the marines die and nobody -- no one who made the decision is man enough to take was once ability for it. so dishonorable. i appreciate your coming on, thank you. >> thanks for having me. >> tucker: miranda devine is a columnist with the u.s. post, we will say she's the best columnist and she's also from abroad, she's australian so we have asked her tonight to tell us how america looks internationally right now. thanks so much for coming on. what you think the rest of the world is thinking about our country and the biden administration? >> look, i hate to say it, but america in one fell swoop has managed to make itself look on

trustworthy, feckless, and weak. for a country that has the best military in the world that, you know, is the leader of the free world that the rest of the free world looks to come of the leadership, it's gone, and there is a vacuum and everyone is scrambling to figure out what to do. i mean, today in the face of this disaster, this massacre at kabul, the president, as you said, just went to sing again and, you know, you had boris johnson from the u.k. came out and gave a very strong speech before the u.s. president and then when joe biden came out, it couldn't have been a worse mom or to needed, more poorly judged speech and you know, if i hear him do that fake empathy routine one more time, i'm just going to start throwing things at the television. and i think that the families of

the marines who were killed today, at least 13 -- i hope they weren't listening, because that type of [indiscernible] compassion is worse than the callousness that he's mocked for now. this is the president who doesn't have the cognitive bandwidth to do this very difficult job, who has always had terrible judgment and who -- i guess is calling card was that he was supposed to be mr. compassion. we've seen that that's not true. he pretends to be. and all you can say is there must be serious people somewhere in the administration, and what they need to do is not be frightened that joe biden will throw a tantrum when they give him advice he doesn't want. they need to be firm and they need to cauterize the damage before -- he's only been there eight months. there's three years and a third to go in the world can't handle

it. how on earth when we now have a reinvigorated terrorist threat facing the world and you have this man in charge, it won't work. >> tucker: no, and it's beasley not -- famously if something can't continue, it won't and i think that's where we are right now. i appreciate it, thank you. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: lieutenant colonel daniel davis is a senior fellow defense priority, the people who should have been in charge of this stuff from the beginning but unfortunately weren't. thanks so much for joining us. there are a lot of people in washington who would like to drag us back into deeper engagement in afghanistan. they hate the withdrawal in the first place. will that happen do you think? >> no. it's really too late at this point and it's really curious that some of the people who are suggesting that we go back really have no plan for doing anything except for adding yet more casualties to those that we suffered before and that's why we've been forgetting out long ago and in fact if we had gotten out on may 1st on the original plan the president trump had,

none of this would have happened today, frankly. >> tucker: but if you are one of those -- if you are mcmaster, it is probably not the worst, not in close to the west, but there are a lot of people who are responsible for the debacle of the first place, they have a lot of brass weighing in on it now, don't they? shouldn't they be retired and silent? >> absolutely. i've seen so many of the very architects of this destruction come of this disaster, both presidents and other generals, who have been the loudest and complaining the most about getting out and making all kinds of dire predictions and warnings, not stopping for a minute. so they are responsible for this. at the lies that they told the american people, the plan that they put in place which never worked and now they want us to go further, and because most casualties, it's just unconscionable. >> tucker: it really is, they have no shame. i appreciate you coming on tonight. lieutenant colonel daniel davis. >> thank for having us. >> tucker: we got about 45 seconds left, how do you sum up the daylight? who is capable of crystallizing

[indiscernible], ned ryan is. not much time, but we know you're up to it, what you make of this? >> i would go back, tucker, to the whole premise that this was supposed to be one of the most competent administrations and all we've seen is wild incompetence and i think it's time that we hold people accountable and point out joe biden is really a creature of the corporate propagandists that helps get him into the white house and they bare response to billy for not on the what happened today but this whole disastrous withdrawal in the whole disastrous biden a administration. it would be nice to see them held to account for what they've done not only to the situation in afghanistan but to the american people as a whole. it's time for consequences and if we lived in a just world, there would be. >> tucker: i don't think i could sum it up any better than that. ned ryan, great to see you tonight, thank you. >> thank you. >> tucker: so obviously a really sad day. if you've been watching for the full hour, then you know there is hope, there are guys like joe ken's running for office. new generation of people with

skin in the game who have been the victims of these policies and they may be taking over. if you didn't see that interview, check it out. thanks for joining us, we will be back tomorrow. we hope you have the best evening, sean hannity is next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> announcer: americans held hostage behind enemy lines. day 12. >> sean: and welcome to "hannity." the 45th president of the united states donald trump will join us in a moment, but first, it was the single deadliest day for u.s. troops in afghanistan 18 soldiers seriously injured, and are now being flown out on ac 17 transport plane with surgical units that are on board. dozens of civilians also killed, including many young children, when two