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saying, republicans are pushing to adjust the nda, the sweeping defense bill that sort of stipulates where your spending priorities are with the military and republicans want to add some things that will limit exactly what the president wants to do in favor more what they want to do and it's only just begun. that will leave it here. ♪ ♪ >> greg: i'm greg gutfeld along with the dagen mcdowell, geraldo rivera, will cain and evil shannon bream, it's "the five." president biden spinning his chaotic exit from afghanistan is an extraordinary success as his administration refuses to rule out working with the taliban in the future, privately administration officials say they are horrified over abandoning americans, one telling politico "i am
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absolutely appalled and literally horrified we left americans there. it was a hostage rescue of thousands of americans in the guise of a in operation. doing his best to paint a rosy picture of. >> it's easy to second-guess but let's just be clear, america was in this war for 20 years and i think any effort to unwind and any effort to bring our troops out, any effort to end our military stands in afghanistan was going to be filled with heartbreaking scenes and difficulties, i think the biden administration managed that as well as it could be managed under the circumstances we were forced into. >> greg: the taliban showed off duct and millions of dollars of u.s. military equipment and the biden administration is not ruling out working with the terrorist in the future. >> what is the taliban, are they are our friend ami, are they are
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adversary? are they our enemy? what are they? beco it's hard to put a label on it. >> as far as our dealings with them in the past year or so, in war you do what you must. to reduce force, not necessarily what you want to do. it's possible. >> greg: that was upbeat. all right, evil shannon, thank you for taking the time out. president biden calls it an extraordinary success. you can only apply that phrase if you apply it to a very narrow space, like we got the plane in the air, that's it. if you incorporate the horrifying process and the loss of life how can you say that? >> shannon: also classifying it as an extraordinary success are china, russia, iran, we are to be very cognizant of how this plays in the world stage because there are a number of people who
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are cheering and saying this is the defeat of the u.s. but when you hear them say we did the best that we could in the situation we had, i look to this letter that came out a couple days ago, was a you can tell me that they thought this was the best plan ever, if they didn't fully push back against his president and say it was a terrible idea, they should resign, people need some kind of accountability because to say that and go back to the pit of, we almost everybody agrees on that, it's about how we left and if our military leaders gave this president's advice then. >> greg: continuing with the bait and switch, nobody is debating the decision to lead to, leave. one thing we don't talk about as much anymore other allies, we understand that americans are still there but what about our allies? they were there to help us.
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>> will: we left so much behind, it's interesting that they qualify it by a success, ignoring the 2,300, whatever number it may be, you know what, you are 90% cancer free. that's not an encouraging statement, the people with the same mind-set that said here's a mostly peaceful riot, they have a way of creating the silver lining so i would suggest you ignore them. the anonymous voices and their administration, listen to the obama administration officials throwing them under the bus, our standard is leave no man behind, don't act like this is a catastrophe you actually stepped into on the sidewalk, you created this catastrophe and it is your burden and obligation to ensure that no american is left behind. no spinning, no lying, no creating a reality other that.
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>> you actively seeking out anonymous sources, there will be hundreds right now. you have a serious issue with their past interpreter, has there been any news? >> there is, he was 18 years old when we met him. he begged us to go with him. take us, taken with us, he stayed with us the entire time, 12 assignments in afghanistan, wonderful guy and we were so worried about getting them out but fox news did an ad admirable job on this, we got virtually all of our people out and many of the other networks did the same. because it's news when things go badly, the fact that this went right and we got this dear friend out and hopefully, my
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family and i will sponsor him here in the united states, you know -- >> greg: they should move in with you. >> geraldo: i have said that i will sponsor them. >> greg: i see a reality show gets me to one point i want to make is that jfk, victory has a hundred fathers, defeat is an orphan. that's what you say, laser focus on the thing we did right, getting 120,000 people out and they did one of the most magnificent airlift's in history of human rights. what went badly however, sticking our claws, watching the people who are savage and our enemies, can be very, very difficult for us to bear. but it is our new reality.
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>> greg: this administration keeps saying we have this enormous leverage, but it feels like we are basically telling them to extort us, we are actually being our own extortionists, feel free to hamper the withdrawal until we give you money is kind of what we are saying, go ahead, we are going to give you money if you enable us to get these people out. before we have treasure but they have blood. we found out the majority of the interpreters, other u.s. visa applicants were left behind in afghanistan, "wall street journal" reporting today, a majority and we found out that at least 500 journalists from radio free europe and radio liberty among government agencies, 500 journalists and their families were also left behind. it was too much to expect president empathy and today we
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got commander in cowardice, biden and company and all of these democrats have displayed a real total lack of respect and regard for the american people. the same red necks and fly over folks but dishing out washington bio waste, looking at the american people and telling demonstrable lies over and over and over again and anybody who has the capability of hearing and seeing knows that they are being lied to and yesterday, kind of gone better and i think one of the reasons that general milley only took three questions today is because they are trying to avoid being put in a situation where they have to either live for the president or tell the american people the truth and the most dangerous thing to me is joe biden is clearly acting like a one-term president. he doesn't give it a damn and it
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is scorched america, scorch afghanistan, scorched feature future because he won't be around when the next terror attack arrives on our shoulders. >> greg: we should have been second-guessing more, we should have been first guessing, if more people were engaged, including myself and that, the absence of second-guessing led to this. >> dagen: i to think it won't be journalists going to insiders. they will be kept in, when one cockroach comes out, that's when they'll show up. the two you are referring to the war itself, 20 years of lies and how often did we hear about friendly fire casualties and the ugly side of war. >> greg: coming up, president biden accused of lying
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♪ ♪ >> shannon: republicans accusing president biden of lying to americans about afghanistan, the final phone call with the then president of afghanistan back in july, "i need not tell you the perception around the world and in parts of afghanistan i believe is that things are not going well in terms of the fight against the taliban and there is a need to project a different picture." that conversation raising big questions because president biden has been saying nobody could have known the afghan army could collapse. the white house not denying the report earlier today. >> was the president anyway pushing a false narrative in that call with the afghan president? >> i'm not going to go into details of a private conversation but what we saw
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over the course of the last few months was a collapse in leadership and i was happening even before he left the country. the president has conveyed repeatedly, privately, and publicly as you need to stand up and lead your country. >> shannon: there were real problems with afghanistan and their ability to stand up against the taliban. how does that all calculate for you? >> dagen: james freeman in the journal wrote a poem about this, the use of the word perception over and over again. the perception based on reality. that was the most important to him. we know that again, they were trying to paint a picture, that was not true. the state department in the middle of july. a call for the state department
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to use tougher language on call for the atrocities being permitted. i think the whole planning for this withdrawal if you can call to that started, on the 20th anniversary, wanted to have a one-man ticker tape parade. publicity stunt and they figuratively wrote to the speech for that day for the withdrawal that began. why did they start the troop withdrawal for civilians before our allies and friends before even the diplomats in the country. they were letting the and to dictate the path of getting out, all that matters is the truth on the ground and right now, they think the american people are stupid and thinking that it will fade.
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>> shannon: how do you think this is going to play? >> geraldo: it is as innocuous as the ukraine president, i am not sure because i want to give, you know, the benefit of doubt to the president. trying to say, come on, buck up, however, let's show the world, because your troops need to you mr. president. split with hundreds of millions of our taxpayer dollars, his army just collapsed on him. it could have been him just spinning and trying to give him -- >> shannon: we also had reports that he was saying, i don't want you to start this mass evacuation, of our forces and ability to get things done.
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>> will: when you were playing that clip, we all scoffed. when jen psaki was talking about a collapse in leadership i thought she was talking about the united states of america. you may reserve judgment, i will pick up your slack. this is the big story to me. sometimes we use words like spin or political office and i worry they are not strong enough. what's going on is we are creating a pseudo-reality and passing off on the american people a reality that does not exist, we have overplayed fears far beyond the rational fear and convince people out there. that unarmed black men are being gunned down in the street by cops and we are suggesting afghanistan -- these are false realities and the reason they are being passed after the
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american people is to accumulate power for the one that is telling allies, this story is very clear who would benefit, this is not reality. >> shannon: people would be stunned to find out what the real number is. even conservatives watching, there are studies on this, that number is in single digits. >> shannon: it's all about perception on that. >> greg: this is bigger than watergate. you have to imagine, if you can remember, the last time you watch cnn, if this were trump, there would be therapy llamas into the site because they would be choking on their tongues. i disagree, this is bigger than the perfect phone call. colluding with a foreign power
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to lie about the state of the war. imagine if this was coming from trump, this would be the biggest story ever, i wonder if this would be covered at all. the live help us, leaders have to lie to help their country. was the lie designed to convince people to stop being against the fast pullout. that's really bad. if the general said hey, we have the taliban on the ropes according to the afghan president. that lie prevented anyone from mounting an alternative to this for disaster. we would've still had to withdraw, it could've been differently. this lie actually ended up causing this disgusting display, for the last whatever, ten days. it's a big deal.
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purpose. joe concha labeling kamala harris as the absentee vp by design. "since harris took office she is yet to hold even one formal solo press conference, not one. it's also been weeks since harris sat down for a one-on-one interview. there's a reason for that." greg, is kamala harris a liability for the biden administration or are they a liability to her future political career. >> greg: tonight will be doing an in-depth investigation into her whereabouts, we haven't found her. there will be lots of new breaking -- she went from the star pupil, you know, to the weird onto you keep in the attic. it's an amazing transition. voted basically most likely to be president and she can barely get the free wi-fi at arby's. i don't know -- i have a theory
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i wrote down here. here is my theory. the administration got bad so fast, keeping her head and is preferable so she doesn't get smeared by joe's failures and they are waiting for the right time to break the glass and take her out. we don't know how bad she is, democrats are going to assume it can't be any worse than this. as my theory. >> will: i like your theory and i have a feeling i know when they're going to break that glass, when racial politics break make their way back to the forefront of the conversation. if i am kamala harris do right now, i am extremely offended because you have been used. now that they don't need or they have shelved her because her approval rating is negative 19 and it's clear that whenever she is out front she does hernandez a liability to the administration. if i say, i wasn't a liability for you when you needed to get elected so kamala has a right to be very, very upset but the
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biden administration is in a very, very tough position. do we admit we used kamala to get elected or do we run her back out? >> dagen: until the anger and rage over this afghanistan withdrawal fades, hopefully it doesn't, they've got to keep her head and because she is clearly not very good on her feet. lester holt, when she cut off the female journalist, she's not a good enough liar. she can't tap dance around this disaster well enough to put her other in public. >> geraldo: i think you have to remember her historic significance. first woman in the white house, remember that a handwritten member of the burden that she carries and how she was so misused on the southern border. they totally dictated her movement and she took the fall for it.
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now she is so negatively perceived, now her popularity was 34%. that's extraordinarily low for someone so historic who was supposed to prop up old joe so what i think this is now is a pragmatic, ruthlessly pragmatic decision, i keep her on the low down right now, when the time comes if it is about race you can always bring her back. >> dagen: she prove she can handle herself in those interviews. again, okay, she's got the crown on her head but she's got to keep it there and she stepped on it. >> shannon: she was a great fit, checked some serious boxes, exciting for a lot of people but remember during the primary, she wasn't great on the primary debate, while she was a good fit on the ticket, whether she can be a good leader and manage
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things, she's got the worst assignment which could be the border. it's an unsolvable problem. she's probably going to be a professional tiebreaker, given what's going on in the senate, go up there and break ties whenever it matters but it's not like she shows the primary process, that she was up to taking that next step. >> dagen: did you have something you wanted to say? >> greg: i miss her laugh, it always brightened my day whenever she would laugh. do you guys watch storage wars? i keep thinking i'm going to watch an episode and they're going to open up a container and she will leap out. before "90 day fiance" is kinky.
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♪ ♪ >> will: despite an absolute disaster in afghanistan, some are praising the president after his speech yesterday. >> president biden left a marker for history today, president biden delivered the most accurate and most honest speech by an american president about afghanistan. >> i have been completely
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surprised and feeling, we are all blessed to have joe biden in the white house in the last months, his first year in office, all the things he's done. >> will: how do you come away from that situation and say absolutely wonderful? >> geraldo: it's not like the general public is saying it, michael moore supported bernie sanders into him it's all about the results. it's not how the sausage, it's how it gets made. one of the war ended at all costs, the war was ended. what michael moore set i think is true, that many, many, particularly in the donna fox news, the reordering of the american public, there's a real
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fear liberals being called out by conservatives, you are a coward, you are a traitor, you have no backbone, you're this or that. michael moore said, joe biden had the courage to blow through the kind of fears and the phobias liberals generally have when making a stance. joe biden made the stance, we are out of afghanistan, he's the one who did it, michael moore and people who believe like he does, that's all that counts. >> will: they seem completely in that vein, incapable of differentiating. >> dagen: these people are completely irrelevant, they are happy, it's a way of just getting attention. i don't know what it would take
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to them, would it be him throwing stacks of puppies into the potomac, where they turn on him then? if he was lashing santa claus, i think they are just attached to biden at all costs. >> will: to me, the enemy here is the american people, tony duncan's horrendous tweets, let me share you with dan rather's tree, it's worth noting that the same people were leaving women's rights behind in afghanistan are willing to control women's bodies and choices in the united states. pro-life equals taliban. >> greg: the same people that are lauding this deep, humiliating withdrawal where we abandon our allies in an authentic takeover of government, the people that are lauding out our calling january 6th and insurrection.
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i think it's going to be very hard for the media to continue to exaggerate what happened on january 6th, with their precious few seconds it takes against the unfolding spectacle we just went through. also you're going to see an increase in the words "ease" and "pounds" which is how the media reports any criticism of joe when they realize, this is going to leave our mark and it is, "you're pouncing on a tragedy for political gain" as they do that every single day of their lives. you five shannon, that's what's going to happen, they will begin to put january 6th, anti-masking or dan rather, pro-life measures, get off afghanistan, celebrate joe and get to a different issue. the one they should if you are going to be based on the polls, michael moore does not represent average america, the poll about how president biden has managed to withdraw from afghanistan,
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26% approve, 62% disapprove and that was before we had the tragic loss of 13 american service members. so i'm going to think those numbers are even worse now. these guys won't speak to the average american but there will be, look over here, shiny thing to try to get away from what most american people think is a disaster. >> will: that will be a clear and obvious play starting tomorrow, a huge, divisive issue that will commandeer all the attention, be on the lookout. >> greg: when you do pull off a band-aid, the most intense pain is upfront and they are hoping that over time that will fade. you've got americans and allies over there. >> geraldo: you have to be careful not to start another rambo where we lost in vietnam and "we lost but if you stuck it out, just powerful enough and brave enough." >> dagen: i don't want people to forget because they need to
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remember that joe biden is a great deal more dangerous to the lives of people in service and americans and what he might do in terms of this, again, you scorched afghanistan, watch what they are going to do with domestic policy and that's on deck. >> will: we have to go here but the point of the story isn't over. private special operatives right now, so trying to get people out of that country, there are americans, that the administration did not do. >> geraldo: extolling their virtue and the feeling that they will generate is bitterness over the pullout even though most of them wanted to pull out. >> greg: we do have to concentrate on the growing white supremacist movement. good luck missing anyone with this rhetoric. don lemon erupting on people who haven't been vaccinated. ♪ ♪
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>> geraldo: welcome back, as covid cases rage in several locations around the country, the cdc telling him vaccinated people not to travel over this labor day weekend, with cnn's don lemon going ivan further and posting this scolding message to those who still remained to get refused to get the shot. >> some people are so selfish, fine, think about someone other than yourself. and if you don't believe that covid is real and that it can affect your health and possibly take your life, don't go to the hospital then when you get sick. >> geraldo: that's a little harsh. isn't it logical to say that, you know, vaccination plus mask equals travel, on vaccinated, you know, is in a proof or people not to travel? >> dagen: i think this is a
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personal choice, if i wasn't vaccinated i might just stay at home but that is a personal choice. on vaccinated people to vaccinated people, if you got the shot you should be fine. but i want to expose, i know greg has talked about this before but this exposes the combination of dumbassery and cruelty by don lemon. he said if you smoked and get lung cancer, you don't get any treatment, if you don't wear sunscreen you don't get cancer treatment, you ate too many cheeseburgers? no open heart surgery for you. it is too stupid to be on tv buddies perfect for cnn. >> geraldo: there's two things going on here, though, and i know how deeply you feel about this. there is the premise that on vaccinated people should not travel because of the exponential risk they pose to people, children, for example,
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and the other thing is the cruelty of, you know, the cavalier "don't go to the hospital bed" and in terms of the first, cdc is advising people, on vaccinated, don't travel. if i'd let me work that backwards, regarding the second point you made, whether or not it's cruel, we are veering dangerously close to extermination his language. that's the next step. putting the on vaccinated someplace else, when you listen to the cruelty of don lemon right there, who has a wonderful concoction of being stupid and mean, you are looking at a very dangerous mind-set that is getting increasingly common out there. your other point, the unvaccinated pose a threat to other people, and particularly children, that is false. what we now now, the shows is that vaccinated people transmit covid is almost the same level
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as unvaccinated people. what the vaccinations provide you is protection against severity of illness. it doesn't protect you from ability to require acquire it or give it to someone else and the cdc is just not a credible voice anymore when it comes to sba. >> geraldo: do you believe that it is so wrong for the cdc to say if you have asked me, stay home? >> shannon: they also tell people to not eat raw cookie dough. it's just a suggestion. people who are supportive of governor ron desantis, he got plenty of critics but his team will say, look at the percentage is great if you berate people versus in florida, very open situation, don't go there if it's not your cup of tea, 68% of people over the age of 12 are vaccinated. here in new york or if you don't have your vaccination card you can't go to a restaurant, 55% and they are constantly berating people here. so i don't think you win people over to your argument by saying things about them and insulting
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them in the way the don lemon is choosing to do. maybe the new york comparison on that front. >> geraldo: i get it but again, what is it? it's not the rudeness of don lemon. isn't that the advice, the advice is good advice, if you're unvaccinated, stay home. >> greg: i just wonder when cnn will stop pretending to be news, there anchors are more opinionated than boston cab drivers, every hour is about how bad you are. when i'm listening to them, i'm trying to figure out who he's talking to because whoever he's talking to, i don't know these people. what he's doing is creating a straw man and then creates this idea, you're either this or you're this, he's not actually interested persuasion at all, he's indulging in the dopamine rash he gets from shaming people. he's like a human walking
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tweets. i do think also, he's doing this for the attention because his ratings are tanking and why are they tanking? might be some new competition at 11:00. >> dagen: starts with a g! >> greg: that's what that says, all they do now, they are so irrelevant that all they can do is shame people. >> geraldo: is it good advice if you are unvaccinated not to travel? >> will: the answer is the unvaccinated should balance the risk/reward, balance their own individual risk/reward analysis. >> geraldo: if you knew someone was getting on their plane was not vaccinated would you want to sit by them? >> will: i don't care at all.
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and i rest my case. shannon, i believe you are next. >> shannon: i love that so much. this is hilarious weather man in canada getting quite a surprise while getting forecast check it out. >> winds from the southeast now at 17 kill meters per hour. here's your forecast. as we go through the day tomorrow, yes, storm is in the building. getting some treats, walking on thin air. 24 degrees. >> shannon: look how cute he is this adorable dog named storm. how appropriately walked right on set interrupting the weather report looking for treats. super cute. still looking. camera certainly loves him. hand down best weather forecast. second to janice dean. so proud of america for not doing kilometers. >> greg: that was one war we won. all right. dagen? >> dagen: kill meters, i see your cat and dog and raise you some fluffy cow.
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these are getting imrurend down. kim and ashley as you will. scottish highland cow. but, guess what? delicious. their milk has a high butter fat content. i'm doing my homer simpson. >> greg: that's a beautiful animal. >> geraldo: this is the quiz show edition of geraldo news starring geraldo with geraldo. here is abc the chase. roll it. >> in a 1973 letter, what author called his then son-in-law geraldo rivera a fierce democrat and closet marxist? nor man merrill, kurt or j.d. >> norman merrill got to be. >> shannon: j.j. sullinger. >> geraldo: kurt. he was my father-in-law. >> will: that's awesome. super quick. shameless plug. corey mills has been in
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afghanistan running people in private operations out of kabul the last several weeks. he called me undisclosed location out of afghanistan can you hear on the. will cain podcast. >> greg: i will have to start reading again if he called you a marxist. he must be on the ball. >> greg: "special report" suspect next. >> bret: kurt for 500. thanks, greg. welcome to washington. i'm bret baier. the enemy of my enemy is my friend. it's an old saying that may have new relevance tonight for u.s. counter-terrorism policy. the nation's top military officer now says it is possible the u.s. will cooperate with the taliban in taking on other terrorist groups, most notably isis-k. chairman of the joint chiefs chairman mark milley says it's unclear whether the taliban has changed from the ruthless group it once was but new reports from the ground suggest the taliban in certain parts of the country is going back to its old
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