hello, joey jones, kaylee paganini and caldwell. welcome to the big saturday show. here's what's going on tonight. >> big interview on the big saturday show. three afghanistan war about biden's chaotic exit and they don't hold back. >> afghan refugees five for possible ties to terrorism biden

administration say everyone would be that it? >> gianno. >> a meltdown after losing trust that the search at u.s. open. >> i think i'm going to take a break for a while. ♪♪ >> she being a sore loser or is her mental health a good excuse for quitting? >> a group of democratic letter sending a letter to the secretary of state antony blinken urgent the states return of american citizens and allies out of afghanistan. congressman is leading this with the letter, u.s. claims may have left but thousands of afghan partners and families are still waiting. will help those who stood with us. meanwhile, one of the congressman who went to afghanistan to help rescue u.s. citizens says the biden administration is lying about

the situation over there. >> the president is going to growth american every american who wanted out got out? i have a list of 50 who want out, they haven't got out. you think were going to get these people out? >> we are going to get some but there's going to be some who are going to be dying because of the failure of president biden. i promise back. when i say blood is on his hands, that means the president hands, i mean that with everything in my heart. it's his fault. >> joey, there's a lot that has happened over the course of the past two or three weeks with the catastrophe of the afghanistan withdrawal but one of the harshest things that's difficult to process and accept for veterans like yourself and americans here who are safe is that we lack not just one american behind by hundreds of american have been left behind essentially the americans there

are still alive. >> absolutely i think the problem here is we are going to learn and good on the congressman for doing what he can, it bothers me went over like that because at the end of the day, if you his capture, he would be a target it would be my brothers and sisters putting their lives at risk. you don't cowboy up like that. he had other things to do and that's okay, don't put your life at risk about way. with that being said, the problem here, and i hope he's involved in investigating, and i hope he can convince his colleagues on the other side of the aisle that we have an opportunity to bring them home in order. the fact that we brought back 100,000 people and we thought people who play key rolls in maybe saving president biden who didn't get back, 200 americans didn't get back in their families didn't get back, that is a problem we have.

the reason is we got caught with our pants down, not prepared and without the right plan or any plan that's a predicament we had to lie on the rely on the taliban to save us from worst taliban. >> kayleigh, the pentagon is trying to move on from foreign afghanistan but it's going to be interesting to watch the contrast between the state department under president biden, the state department under president trump which made it clear because the president priority to rescue americans overseas and whether president biden goes back to the obama doctrine of hostages and ignores families please and friends should they get their family members out. >> it's an interesting contrast. president trump rescued more american hostages than any

president prior to him, any president. that was our model, no american left behind and he did not leave americans behind. you are seeing something very different with the state department, antony blinken, your hearing the narrative he's putting forward, their home is afghanistan. their families are there, maybe they want to be there. this is a narrative all 100 of these the americans want to be left behind. they also want to think of the americans in terms of percentages. biden said it's only 10% of americans left behind. these are percentages, these are people. i watched an interview with a woman, 25 years old. american citizen, she's pregnant with her boyfriend in afghanistan, trying to get to the airport because the state department told her to and they picked her up, they didn't pick her up. the taliban put a gun to her head and said get back here. leading her to say there's days i think to myself, am i going to make it home? am i going to die here? these are people and they

deserve better. >> absolutely horrific. here's another journalist on fox and friends. >> i'm not in contact with the state department but my friends in the u.s. are trying to get in touch with the state department. for now, there's no chance. i don't see any chance. >> no chance of being evacuated from afghanistan. >> we have president joe biden to thank for that. but we have to come to grips with as americans, a poll that came out showed a majority of americans believe joe biden is incompetent, they don't believe he's an effective leader this is problematic. we got a man in office right now who refers to the vice president at times or has, president

kamala harris and the harris administration. we have a president who ran in 2020 and said he would listen to the military officials on the ground from a heat listen to the intelligence community. he did neither and afghanistan. we got a man will live china to become most effective actor on the world stage right now for what's going on in the taliban in afghanistan, billings and trillions of dollars with resources the taliban wants. not only that, hunter biden china started investing in the joe biden very early on after they decided perhaps they would decimate our economy later on through covid in the wuhan bible leak if we believe the reporting period joe biden cannot leave this nation, it's become so problematic american lives have been lost, something would probably would not have seen in the previous administration 13 soldiers killed.

this is an issue americans need to look at closely. >> contrary to the white house, there are hundreds of americans stranded there. let's listen to the secretary of state and what the plan is. >> we are in constant contact with americans who remain in afghanistan and don't wish to leave. most of the remaining american citizens home is afghanistan and extended family clips there it no surprise deciding whether or not to leave the place they call home is a wrenching decision. we are also in touch with others working to help at-risk people leave afghanistan including foreign partners, news organizations and private foundations. >> joey, your response to that? >> we don't leave men behind but i guess politicians do.

military doesn't but i guess politicians do. for what reason? was again here? president biden stands there and said thousands of dollars sent to warm, biden, you've got three years to do this right. the narrative comes at a high risk, at the risk of american lives and i think that's what we are going to see. >> kayleigh, the united states military are capable of doing enormous thing, taking on enormous challenges in leadership matters. the answer i heard from this secretary of state is so bureaucratic and academic you don't hear this strength of him saying we are going to get every single person home, we're going to do everything it takes is that they talk about bureaucratic management response team to call people still in country. >> there is none, no plan. the plan is to say we entered

the american course, that was always the plan. chaos ensues. people on the flight were majority afghans, not even afghans eligible for fees as. no rhyme or reason, no order. asking tragically hanging from airplanes and americans left behind. there is no plan and 84% of americans, 84% said i don't want to leave american behind. 70% i don't want to leave afghan allies behind, they think they're going to blow past this info for a photo opportunity, it's not going to happen. >> let's hope not. next, joey jones has three other afghanistan war veterans to reflect on their service. >> god love america. it was my service worth it? absolutely. what i do it again? absolutely. >> how are they feeling about

the chaotic exit from afghanistan? powerful messages when the big saturday show continues. ♪♪

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welcome back to the big saturday show. this week, three both veterans the afghanistan war in plano texas for a wide-ranging discussion about the ending of tooth decades of u.s. military presence and a troubled nation of afghanistan. twenty-three, marine corps combat veteran walker bush whose grandfather and uncle both served as u.s. president. in for treatment amos who lost his brother picture here, during the course of the war in afghanistan. army ranger captain went back to afghanistan to serve even after losing a portion. i asked how they felt about the afghan failing of the biden administration. >> how to trust the people spend

their for years? it's an absolute failure in leadership, it's in measurable. you can't quantify it. it been tough. it's so ridiculous you can't make it up. it was so botched at the highest level that you've got to think these people are either completely inept or they shouldn't be in leadership position where there's an ulterior motive. both of those scenarios, it's impossible to have a positive emotion about this. >> a corporal in a marine corps coming up with a better plan than these knuckleheads it did on the exit strategy. everything about it was so

wrong. here's one of the issues i wish in this goes back to politics and everything, when people run for office, i wish they would just keep their mouth shut about what they are going to do from a militaristic view because you don't know truly what's on the ground yet. you have not been read on to what's really happening. you watch the news but you don't know the ground truth from the people from the military, the intelligence community. the only thing i heard from you was a change in policy. walker, let's plan on you, you are the least political walker bush i think there is but your uncle, the 43rd president of the united states the guy who signed the check for the guys in afghanistan the first time. >> there's not a single person i know outside of the veteran world that cares as deeply about the individual fighter than my

uncle. >> he he has the purple heart. >> he truly cares so anybody who's had political decisions, conspiracy theories, what not, that's fine, that's your right as an american but i can personally tell them that he cares. >> my buddy said when they would go to an event, president bush would sit in the room with gold star families until they were done with him from until they were done with him asking questions, crying, hugging, everything. that's what a leader looks like not some leader standing on the tarmac during the dignified return of 13 service members checking your watch like you need to be somewhere. that's so utterly disgusting, the only time where my blood really gets boiling about them,

the least you can do is show every amount of respect you can for the less than 1% of this population of the united states who voluntarily signed up. i tell people all the time, real men serve because we hates what in front of us, we don't serve because we leave them behind. that means people like us on the voluntary line to serve and defend this country have to go over and take the fight for them, that's what we have to do. >> there talking about why we go and fight, why we sign the dotted line. that wasn't overly political interview, it really wasn't. they felt cheated from the time we sat down. my question to you, you are a young man know what it's like to be inspired, how do we inspire the next line of generation after what we've seen the last two weeks?

>> you are inspiring, you inspired me to do bigger and better you are a colleague, i consider you a friend of mine you've been through it all. i share and discuss with those gentlemen you interview who bravely served our country. also, thanks to my aunt and my cousin who served and currently are serving but i've got to tell you, i have no confidence in this president, this administration to care. they talk about empathy, why would you check your watch on the tarmac? are you trying to figure out if it's your naptime? not funny but man, you're the president of united states, you're supposed to be a compassionate leader but you said donald trump wasn't a compassionate leader, a man would check on the soldiers, he would get out of the car and greet these men and women. he's not doing that.

i am majorly concerned after what we saw and afghanistan, what entry of the country like china and other countries like russia who may look at what's going on and say we have a potential way to go in and protect the united states especially considering the fact that 9/11 is coming up with these organizations like isis k and who knows, it is a major concern and i think most americans are concerned about this resident. >> kayleigh, i want to get some inside baseball here. the problem i have in my brothers with me, we have a big gap in military leadership. other generals been compromised on politics? is our service academies? is this really how they are? general mckenzie raising the taliban in three trips morning there families? >> there's no doubt that generals are being compromised by politics.

an enormous amount of effort put into critical race theory and all kinds of political correctness. they are in the pentagon, i wish they would put more into afghanistan strategies and i think there's more to the story than what we currently know because i can tell you this, i'm certain general milley and others told president biden the taliban suggested into -- i talked to rick this week and set the intelligence going back to may set the taliban was on the move. so either milley hit her from the present or he told the president but i've got to believe it's the latter. >> sometimes you throw your rank on the table and be willing to walk away. it's a horrible thing today. katie, i want to go to you this last part. kat talked how he wished some people running for office this would make promises on military decisions. i think what he was getting to

is president biden in china felt this campaign promise bring troops home, they didn't already understand the situation by the filling the campaign promise. you think he's onto something inside maybe this is not a place you make campaign promises? >> i think there is enormous push and pull when it comes to campaigning and politics having someone like the president of united states or others to run for office, congress for example looking at subjects including foreign policy and what constituents want. the bottom line is the majority of americans wanted the war in afghanistan to and now we are seeing they are appalled by the way we entered it and the chaotic way this president decided to do that. unfortunately, our enemies especially when it comes to radical terrorist groups like the taliban, isis, you name it, that doesn't always work well

and their long-term strategy with their political goals whether from politicians or americans watching so some politicians i was a have to break promises on foreign policy because once they get into, they have to change their minds about keeping americans safe but on back, i want to get back to your interview, over the past couple weeks, it's been inspiring to watch you take all of this on and be so resolved despite everything everybody is feeling. i can't imagine how you felt the past couple weeks, i feel the way i do and are not a veteran who served in afghanistan. i know all veterans i've talked to, many of them who want to leave afghanistan are completely disgusted and beside themselves about the way this went. a green beret who served in afghanistan said he feels we

need to be worthy of the cause so i am grateful to you that you were over there and it's not lost on me that men's like the ones you sat down with her going over, people like me, a complete stranger so thank you for your service in this difficult time. >> amen. >> i took a hit and came home, that's enough for me. big chuck series tomorrow, the mess in afghanistan was compromised, self interest and refusal by leadership to listen to the troops on the ground. an extended version on fox nation.com. coming up on the big saturday show, the white house told us to trust the vetting process for now at least 100 afghan evacuees are flagged. we'll discuss next. ♪♪

welcome back to the big saturday show. our prompter has gone down so we will have to improvise. welcome back. afghan the united states from a bunch of security concerns being flagged. 10000 of the 30,000 afghans have not been vetted properly so they are still looking into the backgrounds of these individuals who don't have papers 100 have raised concerns for additional review. two afghans are being sent back because they were flagged for potential security concerns. the vetting is being done, we are told by press secretary we have a soundbite here, let's play it. >> i can assure you no one is coming into the united states of

america who's not been through a thorough screening and background check process. >> katie, we have lloyd austin telling us the process was designed to be a slow process and we are basically now having to review this quickly tens of thousands of people are coming through our country. do you believe the vetting is working appropriately? >> absolutely not. the vast majority now of people who are airlifted which depending on the white house, the most historic successful airlift in history were not sib holders, they were random afghans running to the runway and were shoved into our c-17 and now we are learning some of these afghans were coming from a they were already here once they are here it's difficult to remove them. not only have ties to possible terrorism but also are pedophiles, they have children

with them from they force them to marry to get out of afghanistan so the follow-up question is, how to they met these people? reportedly printing out recess and paperwork to get into the airport, that's a major concern so even the white house says there is vetting going on, you have a country where there is complete collapse of the government and no paper trail to vent anybody, i don't think you can trust a single part of the process that wasn't in the system before the past three weeks happened. >> no doubt about it. joey, the new york times have a repealing report on how this went down. mr. biden's speech august 31 at the white house marking the end of americans, a private charter plane, afghanistan fourth-largest city arrived at the airport, one of ten stations in eight countries with no

notice, carrying no american citizens by hundreds of afghans demanding the plane apparently by a law firm offering no clarity about whether passengers deserve special recess for helping american troops. this is one of several rogue flights to put a third party hundred, people without paperwork. >> the first issue here is why do we have to have these flights? some of the things that haven't worked very heroic but completely unnecessary in the sense that we should not have been in that position to begin with. an anecdotal story here, i was on the phone several days until the bomb went off, the marine buddy of mine who was trying to use an interpreter in afghanistan, they had worked for six years, 21422020 to get his interpreter out and they were working on a second one could not -- you know what the answer is low cost but you have to wait on it and let it happen.

you know what is a slow process? the taliban taking over the country which are intelligent understood what happened. >> you have a taliban saying respect their culture over here. the white house same have a statement from the un, access to global marketplace, the operate based on terminal activity, i don't think they are going to change. >> we know they are not going to change because they made commitments and we see they are meeting americans trying to get into the airport. joe biden ran on 47 years of foreign policy. these were really 47 years of this, this is beyond ridiculous, over 10000 people who may need additional screening for vetting? why is it that we as a country don't do what other countries did? they went out to rescue their people and bring them back and. this is another big error the joe biden administration, one in

which in the coming weeks or months we will begin to see with the 25th amendment invoked by democrats and republicans. >> that's the best i've heard, 47 years in participation. you win that one. joe biden set approval rating taking a nosedive. his unpopularity is one restaurants popularity. ♪♪

welcome back to the big saturday show. biden's approval rating the lowest of his presidency. disapprove of his job as president and unpopularity is

taking a four diner to be more popular. taking their business elsewhere, temporarily closed because he ran out of food. kayleigh, your thoughts about this, you're in florida. >> i am not surprised. i am glad to hear the support for this small business. they needed more than ever but i think what this restaurant owner was getting up saying biden voters stay away, he was getting up what's happening now for the americans, 80% of people say no, we don't leave americans behind, there's something so great in the spirit right now. a lot restoration among a lot of people saying don't leave friends behind, we don't leave allies behind. >> take a look at these numbers, the situation and afghanistan lays into how people feel. 30% approved 60% disapprove.

>> not hard to see why people are democrat. 51% of people approve anything but i think everything in afghanistan right now happening right now, it matters. we checked out our pipeline, gas prices go up, groceries cost money, prices are so high, people are not happy right now. i don't care who you voted for, let's welcome each other and have a conversation. maybe you'll when a vote. >> first, i am surprised about the pole. news organizations across the country accurately and factually reporting the poll numbers would be far worse than what they are now. they are bad for a guy who's been in office less than a year but for what joey said, i believe in loving each other but

also we need to make our voices known and hurt because so many americans are hurting under this administration. inflation, gas and prices, recent job numbers, 70% off production. 70% and then you look at the unemployment are people who are refusing to go back to work not necessarily because of their safety because they are making more money on unemployment than anything else. it always comes with citizens making their voices known and hurt and i can appreciate what the owner has done in terms of letting their voices be heard even if they don't agree with it. >> hopefully they were able to restock the kitchen after having so much so if they want to go there to get something to eat next, quitting tennis after a loss to u.s. open, is she being a sore loser? straightahead. ♪♪

♪♪ welcome back to the big saturday shall after stunning plus friday night at the u.s. open, osaka

suggested she may take a break from playing tennis. >> recently, like when i went, i don't feel happy. i feel more of a relief. when i lose, i feel very sad and i don't think that's normal. i honestly don't know when going to play my next tennis match. [sobbing] sorry. i think i'm going to take a break from playing for a while. >> you know what, joey? i was sad to watch but you are a guy who's been in sports pretty much your whole life, you play football, he ran track which is terrific. we are all colonials here, i assume but back in those days when you are playing to her, you

shake hands if you must, if you lost, he lost with grace. you didn't quit but the generation after us seemingly do things different and look at more as their image as a success. what you think of this? >> i think no two stories are the same on this. simone biles, i don't compare her. the public microphone an instagram and the press and if you're struggling with things, that's okay. we all struggle with things and there's more pressure on these athletes but men probably anyone in the public eye, they should be encouraged to step away and get the help they need, not in probably back and forth when they are still going to compete and get in front of the microphone bully from reporters and bullying her for asking questions. taylor said quit asking because i'm not going to tell and everybody said you don't need to talk to a reporter that way no matter how frustrated you are.

we have a standard we have everyone to meet, they are role models and heroes and it's okay to be vulnerable but you need to step away and get that help. >> i agree with that and we have another side we want to run right now. >> you're not especially fond of dealing with the media, especially in this format. you have outside interests beyond tennis that are served by having the platform the media presents to you. how do you think you might be able to best balance that? >> are not really sure. i feel like i'm there and hang it all out. >> i'll be back in from moment. >> kayleigh, let me ask you this. it's been reported from six to

18, 16 million participating in sports today. during covid, anxiety, depression, the numbers have gone up especially among that group. how do we correct that? >> i feel for her, the press can be brutal, trust me i get that. president trump gets that. he's suffered a lot of negative press. she's 23 years old, that's tough with that level of scrutiny on you but i think the biggest thing for athletes going through this is to realize there's something bigger than your career, something bigger as important as it may seem, something bigger and that's faith and family and finding love and confidence in those attributes and those things around you so if you can get there and say who cares what the process? it would be who of her and she would probably be a happy person in that sense. >> i would say we've all mastered that with the press trying to attack us for being the good guy.

anyway, katie, i wanted to ask you this, this young lady is really talented, she beat serena williams which is hard to believe knowing who serena is but she said she has this anxiety when she goes before the press and she spent depressed in general for two or three months, is this a sport she should be involved in? talking to media as part of the job. >> i think all of these decisions are personal decisions. joey set every single situation is different. as someone who once upon a time lost to championships and back to back seasons of volleyball and basketball, i was completely inconsolable. i did have the chance to keep going and playing because i graduated wasn't good enough to play in college. there's a difference between having a mental health problem and losing a game and feeling upset about it and sad about it and being very angry. if she's having a real mental

health problem, then she probably should step away as she sat and take a break from the pressures of being a public person at the age of 23. this is her job, she's got professional obligations here but if it's something she needs to deal with than short but i do think you have to make a distinction between losing and figuring out why you lost and build yourself up and becoming better and not necessarily turning into woe is me and i'm going to quit. i'm not saying that's the situation here but figuring that out, maybe she needs to take time to herself and she'll figure it out. i hope there are people around her who can mentor her and help her make that decision. >> i've never thought i would hear katie, she chose fox news. we appreciate you. [laughter] next from big saturday flop. where we break down the biggest fails of the week. there were a lot to choose from. coming up next.

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north carolina going some virginia tech students in the first game of the season. look here, listen, this is not setting the example, but we never know really what happened, so maybe they were talking about that man's son on the field or it's best maybe to keep your comments to yourself, enjoy the game and brag afterwards. kaylee, what do you have? >> yeah, my flop is joe biden checking his watch during the dignified transfer ceremony for 13 servicemembers in afghanistan, and you would think that was the biggest fail, but wait for it. it was actually eclipsed by usa today, they had the audacity to fact check the gold star families suggesting it didn't happen and usa today even corrected their fact check. they went from partly false saying he checked his watch after the ceremony to oh wait he checked during the ceremony but label it missing context. you fact check a gold star family, big big no no. they were right. it was not just one family, but

many of them. >> kaylee, you will enjoy this. i'm know you a listener of rap music. my big flop of the week is the media's criticism of kanye west -- >> i love kanye. >> everybody loves kanye; right? you know, so interesting to me, i was at the kanye west concert last week in chicago, and every song on the jumbotron had a scriptural reference. he has 27 songs on his album with titles like praise god, jesus lord, lord i need you, number of songs where he talks about god, and the ratings have been wreaked with desperation from the media who is trying to gaslight kanye for talking about god which we have seen time and time again. katie, what do you think? >> well, i love kanye, so i'm glad that he's getting some attention, some good attention from you. my flop is joe biden flipping his stance on abortion this week. take a listen. >> i'm prepared to accept that

the moment of conception is human life [inaudible] but i'm not prepared to say that to other god-fearing nongod-fearing people that have a different view. i respect those who believe life begins at the moment of conception. i respect that. don't agree, but i respect that. >> yeah, so president joe biden campaign is a moderate on a number of issues especially on abortion. he now not only supports taxpayer-funded abortions, but also now changing his own personal definition of when life begins. he is now saying it is not at conception. i would say that's a big flop and flip from the president. what do you think, kaylee? >> yeah, you're exactly right. his press secretary was asked at 15 weeks is a baby a baby? we know a baby can sense light under his eyelids at that point, arms and legs, moves around, heart beat, she refused to answer the question. it is appalling on all levels >> it is. a lot of flops. great show today. thank you, guys.

that does it for us we will see you back here tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. eastern for the big sunday show. "the fox report" with jon scott starts right now. ♪ ♪ >> jon: military brass head overseas to deal with fallout from the chaotic withdrawal from afghanistan. our own jennifer griffin has a one-on-one interview with the chairman of joint chiefs of staff, as the biden administration tries to speed up processing for thousands of afghan evacuees. good evening. i'm jon scott. this is "the fox report'. -- "fox report". america's longest war is over but the state department

estimates hundreds of americans are still stuck in