with ric grenell so make sure you catch that. >> it's an hour long, it's wonderful. >> we go from everything, no topic we haven't done. thank you for watching fox news prime time. i am rachel campos duffy and see you tomorrow night at 7:00 p.m. tucker carlson is up next. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: that evening and welcome to a special edition of "tucker carlson tonight." happy labor day, hope you stayed away from labor all weekend and enjoyed it. it so much is going on in this world right now that occasionally, it is worth taking a step back and making some time to think through what exactly is happening. we have 4 minutes every night on her show per guest and it is great but there were guests for whom it is just not enough so

tucker carlson today gives of a lot more time to speak to very interesting people and we have. in one recent conversation, we sat down with ted nugent to talk about attacks on the second amendment in this country, an amazing conversation and here is of it. >> i am in a political firestorm, always been confrontational especially regarding the second amendment and i've never been uncomfortable when they attacked me. i go so you don't recognize its value? what do you think dear are here for? if you don't eat them, what are they here for? on carrying a gun, i would be attacked for carrying a gun. so by the way, venice and his self-defense are perfect and you are attacking me for carrying a gun and killing deer, what are you, nuts? so i suppose the inclination would be uncomfortable when you were attacked but i was so

confident that with my dad and brothers dear hunting, it's perfect. literally perfect. balancing the herd, participating in god's miraculous creation as an asset to bring balance and thriving conditions and i'm a sheriff deputy for the most 40 years now, get out of here. so tactical capabilities to stop evil, could it be anything but perfect >> alicia: it is literally perfect. so my hunting and my guns, they are perfect and the beatniks and the hippies would attack me for those things because if you are comfortably numb, you think it happened in spite of the trail of tears, here is a battle cry i

believe in. you pearl harbor me, i nagasaki you. >> tucker: and that keeps us at peace. >> the best way to keep pieces to be ready to destroy evil and if you don't destroy evil, it wins venezuela, cuba, china. democrats. chicago, are you kidding me? who doesn't see the glaring evidence? so i've always known i was in the righteous camp not because of my opinion of what's righteous but i consume evidence, i monitor evidence, i listen to stories, i see john belushi got high, john belushi is dead, i went hunting, i'm still ted. bad behavior, ugly results. cognizant, conscientious behavior, happiness. and by the way don't confuse

comfortably numb with ultra relaxed. i am a bow hunter. i spent more hours silent in a tree then all humans combined. our nation has jumped in were all these alphabet soup organizations have not and i am a member of the whitetail, while i, i bet you love that. >> tucker: i know them well. >> so hunter nation.org is where it starts. what do i do? go to hunter nation.org and see what we're doing because it's not about hunting, really, it's about god from the family, country, and the traditional values that make people take their lives into their own hands to get here because there's this unique freedom that is guaranteed by those sacred documents and again, those are just documents. the freedom is already here. i was born with the right to

keep and bear arms. i was born with the right to speak up. i was born with the right to privacy from government intrusion without just cause. i couldn't come here naked without any constitution and i know i can say what i want to say. i don't have to get the king's permission. kings, emperors, tyrants, we are a self-government. we are in charge, we hire people to represent is based on the self-evident truths and if you infringe on them, we will fire you and don't make us rescue. >> tucker: it's so simple, this is how i conduct my life. i love it. ted nugent, ladies and gentlemen. we also had a long and very interesting conversation with hollywood's most famous fixer, he told us a lot of things including about the more than 17 years he spent in prison and

told us one story about the time he was offered a $500,000 bounty to get dirt on michael jackson. he was that part. you get out of prison, need to be a living, the easy way out would be to write the book. our viewers can look it up. >> for over two years. >> tucker: you could have written a book, all the famous people at the cmas. >> just to tell the truth about michael jackson. i won't rat on anybody. >> tucker: even someone who is deceased. >> wears the honor and that? where is the honor? i know what happened, and i know what i did about it. that's all that's important to me. >> tucker: you don't need to tell other people about it. >> what, for many? no thank you.

my brother has been pushing me and says you don't have to mention names are due this, just tell how you would handle things. i might be interested in that, but every person that i've come across, every producer, every documentary producer, every person who has come my way has said tell me about this. i would say why would i go to prison and spend all that time in prison and then tell on people. does that make any sense to you? no. so the attitude i went in with his attitude i came out with and is the attitude i will die with. i am never going to tell on my clients. >> tucker: maybe that's why you are not angry because you're at peace with yourself. i love that. her you can tell when a man is at rest inside and you are.

>> i love myself. i can look in the mirror and say i love you and i mean it. i've got all the confidence in the world. i have never lacked confidence ever. i'm going to tell you this, i don't know if it will make a lot of sense to your viewers, but there was a poem that had an immense effect on my life. "a man who knows how to live can walk abroad without fear of tiger or rhinoceros. in him, the tiger has no place to use his craw or a place to place his horn. he will not die because there is no place for death to enter. what that means to me is total, absolute confidence that you can conquer anything including death. i heard that poem when i was like 14 years old, and it stood with me. one other thing. when i was a little boy, my

mother went to a place called woolworths and she got a couple of lithographs, one she hung of my sister and one in mine. mine was a little girl standing under an umbrella in the pouring rain with really exaggerated raindrops if you can picture this in your head and a puddle of water. underneath it, it said come with me. every morning, i woke up and saw that. every night before i went to sleep, i saw that. and subliminally, it stuck. come what may, whatever comes, i can handle it. i'll take care of it. i'm not worried. confidence. >> tucker: the total collapse of the afghanistan project continues tonight unfortunately. it's the result of many years of mismanagement but in the short term, this is the biden administration screwing up. why did they do what they did? lower logan has been watching afghanistan including from inside the country for many years and she knows the answer.

joins us just ahead of the special edition edition of "tucker carlson tonight."

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prevented. the people that know what they're talking about recognize that the total failure of leadership. lower logan understands what is happening in our country better than most journalists part of our recent conversation. >> tucker: i am fixated on your meta-analysis that what we are watching happening is only happening because the u.s. government is allowing it to happen. and on some level must wanted to happen so the taliban are dismantling american weapon systems and bring them back, why in the world would we want something like that? >> that is a question for the biden administration and the intelligence agencies because they are the ones watching it happen in real time and they are the ones with the power to change it and there's pictures

of it. whether it is afghan troops driving their humvees, got an intel brief that came in europe and showed taliban fighters dismantling a helicopter. they know far more than i know. and they have the power to change it. i don't have the power to change it, but we are supposed to use the accountability that is built into the first amendment to hold people to account and get them to give us real answers but you're not having that because why? ambiguity increasing. we are arguing about whether or not the afghans are corrupt, whether or not they look at them or they all just gave up. not trooper they didn't all just give up. there were also other. that's where it becomes more complex.

in nobody is talking about on the world stage, it's like the virus. it it's very simple in the end, we can argue and scream and everything about the virus, they don't create vaccines, they don't create treatments to save the world, they let their people die of the most basic diseases so we know they have fire weapons facilities so when we send research, we know we are sending it to a bio weapons lab. it's always simple. the truth is always very ample. it may have -- it may be complicated answers to it and you may feel very -- you may have a whole range of complex reactions to it and emotions and whatever else but the truth itself is always very simple because it either is true or it isn't. you either knew from the beginning that the virus was man-made or you didn't. you know how these things are

engineered, they are engineered and a host so they never come out of a lab, it's just that it's in the lab. >> tucker: very good point. so the taliban will be running afghanistan now? >> the united states has made this deal with the taliban. nobody asked why the u.s. made a deal with taliban. they have been negotiating, the u.s. is negotiating without the afghan government. they have not been at the talks. >> tucker: the whole democracy, no one even pretends anymore. we are not for democracy. back. >> who is we? if you look at the united states today, the narrative that is being reinforced on the world stage, every country in the world is watching, every

indigenous force or tribal community or whatever, every u.s. ally, every enemy is watching. the message that we are sending is the american idea is not worth fighting for. but as it is based on a lie. in the moment when the very people asked to fight for it are dying being hunted down and slaughtered, what is happening to those government employees or the women who went to government or event on tv, what do you think has happened to them? whether it happens quickly or pursuing a clandestine strategy and control the information coming out in order to get what they've been promised by the u.s. the u.s. will recognize them as a legitimate government of afghanistan and will take your tax dollars and mine. that's what they're going to get out of it and that's one of the things we know about. how much do we not know about?

>> tucker: so the u.s. government is funding the taliban. >> considering we know how much money and support the pakistanis have given to the taliban and we've been fighting the pakistanis, we've always been funding the taliban literally while our troops are being named on the battlefield, we are paying the people who put them in the ground. >> tucker: if you're the united states, it's a democracy, you have to bow to the will of the population and they want to withdraw from afghanistan after 20 years, previous administrations said they were doing it. you are joe biden, your job is to get us out of afghanistan. how would you do it better than the way they did it? >> i wouldn't make a deal with the enemy, first of all because you don't need the permission of the taliban to withdraw, do you?

>> tucker: you don't. good point, lower logan. >> and why did you make a deal with the taliban? a peace deal? where's the peace? what piece are you talking about? don't attack my soldiers, but keep killing afghans, the people we have fought alongside? that's the deal that we made. >> tucker: one of the best parts of having a long interview format is you get to listen. received, just translate. he told us the story that he had never said to anyone. he told us what saved him in his life seemed out of control.

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to survey the damage from last week's deadly storm. the president has also improved federal aid for nearly a dozen counties into states where the remnants of hurricane ida cause devastating flooding which killed at least people in six states. meanwhile, the check is not in the mail for millions of americans who are out of work here to pandemic unemployment benefits expired today. one of the programs that provided benefits to those who have been unemployed for more than six months for the other was a $300 weekly supplemental unemployment benefit estimated that nearly 9 million americans will lose all or some of these benefits. now back to tucker carlson. >> tucker: welcome back to a special edition of "tucker carlson tonight." actor jon voight has been shunned to some extent in hollywood because his political views differ from the majority.

when we sat down with him, we expected to talk about politics but we didn't. we wound up talking about jon voight's spiritual journey and told us out of nowhere the moment when he believes god saved him from a very dark place. here's a clip from that conversation. >> i was in a lot of trouble at one point had a divorce, had some problems and i was in this little house and i was really suffering for many reasons. my career was in flux at that time and lots of things were going on. my relationship to my kids and wife. and i was on the floor. i found myself on the floor saying but so difficult.

so difficult, set it out loud. and i heard in my ear it supposed to be difficult. can you imagine? can you imagine? >> tucker: a separate voice telling you that. >> a voice of wisdom, kindness, clarity. it had so much resonance, there's a voice. >> tucker: what a message, it supposed to be difficult. >> and boom, what? and i got up and i can tell you, tucker at that time, i knew, i said what it meant was i'm not alone. everything is known, everything is known. i am known. that's what it meant to me.

>> tucker: did you expect it when you were calling out? >> no. now i have to proceed with my life, right? but i felt this tremendous energy. somebody is reading for me like don't give up, there's a purpose here. you've got a ways to go, son. he know what i'm saying? whatever you might imagine that it meant, and i felt great. and so the next morning and i am not a person who really prays with the idea that anybody is listening. now i know we are covered, man.

everything we think, everything we say, everything. just two kids, we all are known as being observed and helped and loved. and we are expected to get up and do battle, do something, do what's right, whatever it is. there's a purpose here. and the purpose here is to learn our lessons and grow and what's the big deal? to give to each other. to be here and to be of help. this is what you figure out. but anyway, at that moment, i was just interested in me surviving so the next morning, i get up and i said what have you got for me today? and i turned on the radio and

here's what came up. i swear, this is what happened when i turn the radio on, i'm having fun, you know what i mean? i'm not taking myself too seriously, but it's serious. i turned on the radio and say i'll build a stairway to paradise with a new staff every day. it's another one. wait a minute, what's going on here? anyway, i had that kind of thing going on for several days when things were happening to me and then i started i was kind of drawn to certain things from that point on and i had had many, many experiences but that was the beginning. >> tucker: so that's the moment when you realized god knows you, he's real and is on your side. what were the implications of that? >> i had to straighten out.

i'm going to be a vessel for god, i'd better be cleaner than i was coming you know what i mean? be a righteous fellow. >> tucker: how hard was that? >> i've always had good examples in my life. my dad was a very righteous man and i've had many good people in my life so i just got off track a little bit and i realized i've worked since then to be a better father. >> tucker: what did it do for your joy levels for the way you feel every day? >> that's interesting, just a couple of days ago, i was asked about something and i said i have fear of the lord. they say have fear of the lord. i've got it. i am really afraid. i am afraid of offending god, right? because god is everything, god

is love, all these beautiful things, beauty, everything, and how can i live up to that? i need a lot of help but i think that's the fear of the lord, it keeps you on track, you know what i'm saying? it's not a fear of frightened of getting attacked by anything. it's a fear of offending, fear of not living up to him, fear of doing the wrong thing, of making a terrible mistake, all of that, but i've been a happier fellow. i may not look like it right now, i don't know what i look like, but i'm a happy fellow. >> tucker: one of the most interesting and newsworthy interviews we've done recently is with a virologist to escape from china. was there at the very beginning

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has to make have the decision how do we respond to this, how does your family respond? >> i went to work and my kids went to school. what we did during covid, the idea that you stop an economy from moving in response to a virus, any virus, the idea that you point to your economy and say stop in response to a virus is the most financially devastating idea in the history of mankind. in the history of mankind. what we did during covid by pointing to our economy and saying stop, we didn't just crush small business and jobs in the bad stuff you can say. what we did is we laid out a blueprint to our biggest enemy on exactly how we will respond to a virus and if people think china who is very, very good at warfare in the long game, if you think china wasn't sitting there making notes and mandarin on exactly how the west will kill itself in response to a virus,

you've got another thing coming. if you think that's the last one coming from the chinese sure, people are crazy. just make sure someone gets sick and we will work ourselves into a panicked frenzy and make sure we slaughter ourselves. >> tucker: were you afraid of a? >> that doesn't mean it's nothing. i'm not saying that, it's a very real thing that clearly affects people, especially with existing conditions. >> tucker: i wonder of your personal view of this. >> i'm 39 years old. i don't have any fear of covid and i don't understand why this is so controversial when you look at the people who have serious effects from covid, i am not in any danger. my wife is in, my kids are in either, i can't believe why would i be afraid of it even if i got it.

i will get right back to work, that's what you do. i have a responsibility to provide. told a small business american to go home just destroy everything you've ever worked for and that's to say when you're on cnn when you are buying just sitting there in your hello kitty pajamas during your show, that's nice but someone else lost everything. >> tucker: so you said you didn't get vaccinated which makes it were criminal. showing who was in danger and who is not in danger.

that's a new thing to me. >> tucker: we can force people to take a menace and they don't want or don't need. >> we have sent so many new precedents it will be the end of us. we told people we can force them to take vaccines, we can force you to close your business, i think we forget and i'm as guilty as anyone else and we have governors and mayors pointed this business and said close your doors. >> tucker: contemplating the remote possibility that covid wasn't natural, didn't come from a pangolin but instead from a

chinese military lab. a group of virologists signed a letter that said they didn't cause the virus, therefore big tech censored anyone who disagreed with the assessment of themselves. in chinese virologist in the medical journal. based on first-hand experience at this virus did not come from nature. it came from a chinese military bio weapons lab. big tech didn't want you to see that. here's what she said. want to be really clear about what you're saying. they are doing research on it to make it a bio weapon, they tested in wuhan, gets out of control.

didn't expect that to happen. at that point, they realize it's out, they lied about that, but then they intentionally allowed some huge number of people, some infected from o'connor to travel around the world to infect the rest of the world. >> china is -- so mentioned as the countries learn some of the best technology for many years and then when they found appreciate the virus from eastern china and then at the functions of the different teams

they add one to the virus and carried different functions and target humans. there are a lot of unexplained things that happen in the population and rats also we should understand you can study how many functions. >> tucker: so many questions. let's just start with the virus itself. you heard eminent, very famous, highly respected american researchers.

>> i know these kinds of people no way it comes from a lab but what i can tell you is spending many years to infiltrate and also, i know that the people tried to have china for their own purpose so may not have enough, they are lying. they know they are lying. they help china's government for their own sake and again. >> tucker: they should be in prison if that's true immediately. so you are a virologist so you look at this virus and is it obvious to you it is manufactured?

>> yes, this is based on the real virus and as i said, all the functions i present in my paper, these functions target humans like what function is learned from that, they purposely change the structure of that part of genome to carry your receptor very well and much better than any other animal so that's why you cannot find the nature intermediate host because the other animal so it's totally different what happened in u.s. and that's what happened in wuhan at that time. >> tucker: people starve to

death in their home. >> you don't know if they have covid or not. >> tucker: but they weren't allowed to leave so they just died of starvation. >> that's why china claims that they use propaganda with tiktok, media to show it saying china's great, we should learn from them but trust me, none of you have a terrible policy. >> tucker: i bet that man sleeps well. is there anything that keeps him up awake at night? actually, there is. mark steyn told us what it is their special edition of "tucker carlson tonight" continues.

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polygamy. we will summarize it for you. it basically said gay marriage is good but polygamy is bad. they didn't explain why. that has been keeping mark steyn up at night ever since. he wants to know why we don't all embrace polygamy. interesting question. here's part of our conversation. i am not defending polygamy because i don't practice in all the normal caveats but the same people who are telling you that the nuclear family is outdated and any combination are deeply offended by polygamy. in i was raised to defend it not because i'm a fan but having a bunch of kids taking responsibility for them, i'm for that and i got attacked. why is polygamy the one family arrangement that sets them off? >> because here, it is traditionally associated with unfashionable people. basically if you say the word

polygamy to most americans, they are thinking of some stern faced patriarch in utah with five wives. the fact is statistically speaking in the western world, the main practitioners of polygamy these days are muslims and their arrangements are de facto recognized by welfare in france, welfare in ontario for the purposes of inheritance tax in the united kingdom. and that kind of polygamy no one wants to go anywhere near. as you point out, the left is completely incoherent on this because it doesn't make any difference and therefore, they say no, it's like a man taking the wife, that's not what it's about. it's about expressing your

commitment and your love for each other. the sex of the participants doesn't make a difference, why should the number? >> tucker: i have made this case and they go crazy when you make that case. i don't really have any kind of vested interest in it either way but i think it's interesting. >> i am not in favor of polygamy but if anything can be anything which is where we are we now, why is it that the polygamists are uniquely out-of-favor because they are associated with utah and a particular unfashionable. >> tucker: if a professional athlete can have nine kids out of wedlock and brag about it and you have someone saying these are my children, i am their father and married to their mothers. i'm not doing and not into it by your taking responsibility for the kids, why shouldn't we applaud that?

>> they say on the one hand, they can become worldwide icons because they knocked up a selection of baby mamas so there's all kinds of former girlfriends, partners, all these euphemisms. >> tucker: always a fiance. >> but they are all basically euphemisms for a man who left huge amounts of human wreckage in his way but some guy in utah is taking care of all the children by all his wives, that guy is deserving of unique. the whole point about the leftist worldview is it doesn't have to cohere because they have the power calculation. >> tucker: that is it for us tonight on our labor day

special. there's a lot of good stuff on fox nation. you can watch all these episodes right on foxnation.com and of course, we will be back every weeknight 8:00 p.m., the show that is a sworn enemy of smugness and groupthink. have the best night with the ones you love and we will see you tomorrow. ♪ ♪ >> sean: welcome to this special edition of hannity. happy labor day. tonight for the hour, we will highlight some of our town halls and exclusive interviews from the past summer. and how we have all witnessed the disaster of the southern border due to the biden administration's complete incompetence, failure to control the migrant surge and here is highlights from the u.s.-mexico border.