stunts having a lion in the clouds. >> bill: does the cable drop and send you 200 feet below where you spring back and come back to that position? >> dana: i wouldn't do that. >> i can think of some people i could put out there to give it a shot. >> dana: as could i. we'll think about that. harris faulkner is up next. here she is. >> harris: we begin with a fox news alert. presidential pivot. biden's >> harris: president biden spinning from afghanistan. what can he turn to? high prices on gas and food, more than a million people have crossed our southern border with high percentages of them positive with covid. all on his watch. and the coronavirus pandemic

itself is running out of control with the delta variant. the president has chosen to stay on that topic for now. tomorrow he is expected to lay out some new steps to battle the pandemic. that won't be easy. it was two months ago when the administration already declared independence from the virus. critics like senator tom cotton suggesting this is part of a broader p.r. campaign to shift focus away from afghanistan and those americans we left behind. >> i understand the administration wants to turn the page. they want this out of the news. they want to focus on their reckless 3 1/2 trillion dollar spending bill. there are a lot of members of congress who won't rest until every american and every legal permanent resident in afghanistan can get out of afghanistan. >> harris: "the washington examiner" is noting this. the commander-in-chief promises to pivot away from afghanistan and the "new york post" with

this headline. his media guards are ready to help him change the subject. mark meredith has more from the white house. mark. >> good to see you. the white house says the president's national security team remain focused of afghanistan and a shift in the public scheduled for issues closer to home. just yesterday the president was up in new york and new jersey taking a look at the damage left behind from hurricane ida. he went to louisiana the week prior. the president though was still asked by reporters a few times about what is going on in afghanistan. and he was even asked yesterday if he plans to meet with afghan refugees who now call the u.s. home. >> do you plan to meet the afghan refugees? >> president biden: they're all over the country. i'm sure i will see some of them. >> white house hasn't said when it may happen. the president is getting ready to hold an event honoring labor unions and briefed on the

pandemic response with a focus on tomorrow where the white house is expected to talk more about how they plan to battle the virus. it wasn't long ago the president announced the country was declaring its independence from covid. variants spreading and the pandemic remains a real problem not only for americans' health and public safety but for the president politically and democrats, too. "politico" quoting a former obama campaign official who says people are upset, kids are coming home from school with covid quar an teens, people are tired of lives being disrupted. at a certain time there is a political penalty. if everybody is angry it won't be good for the incumbent party. the white house is working hard with congress to get its legislative priorities approved. crucial if it wants to hold onto the house and senate. a new poll showed majority of americans feel the country is going in the wrong direction. the white house will have to try to change things if they

hope to keep the president's popularity where it was a few months ago. >> harris: he hasn't been in office that long. for the majority of americans in that one poll you've pointed out to feel like the country isn't going in the right direction that was really quick. mark meredith, thank you very much. for more i want to bring into focus now jason chaffetz. former utah congressman and fox news contributor. good to see you, jason. when you talk about pivoting and you were a politician for many years, you know sometimes you have to do that. it helps to have something to pivot to that you can call a success. what do you say about the biden pivot? >> well, they do want to pivot to something but look what the president is doing today. he is honoring labor unions? do you think that's going to resonate across america? look, the economy is not doing well, there are problems at the border, safety, security, law and order, foreign affairs, covid. i mean, where does the

president pivot? joe biden was supposed to be a uniter. he is not a communicator. he isn't good at rallying the troops and bringing america together. you are at the edge of your seat every time you speak because you have no idea what will come out of his mouth. you can't communicate. nothing to communicate about and he has embraced the liberal positions that he is now figuring out are not very popular with the american people. >> harris: what's really interesting is he has united people. have you seen the polling? he is under water in almost every poll including the two largest major averages of polling. under water for his approval by the american people. they are from every walk of life, every political ilk. he has managed to unite them but not with him. president biden heckled over the afghanistan crisis. don't know if you saw this from yesterday.

he was touring ida damage in new jersey. >> you have left am behind. >> it's sad that america has comethis. it's sad. despicable. you ought to be ashamed of yourself. >> harris: can i before we get to this next point, manville, new jersey, when you look at the flooding video there, it is hard to believe anybody would be focused on anything else. first shows you the resilience of people and where we are right now. i live in new jersey. it was really bad. but they also can handle more than one thing at once. maybe something the administration is forgetting that as americans we can multi-task. they want answers from him on afghanistan. the president later dismissed those protestors we were just watching saying they were upset about climate change. >> president biden: the people who stand on the other side of the fences who don't live

there, who are yelling and we're talking about interfering with free enterprise by doing something about climate change, they don't live there. they don't live. they don't understand. >> harris: jason. >> there is nothing worse that a politician can do when you have somebody emotionally talking about the troops, taurking about their belief in the united states of america to say they just don't understand and to try to blame everything from the southern border to afghanistan to everything on climate change? it does not resonate even with the people who really do believe they need to do things about climate change. the way this administration approaches it is just totally offensive. there is nothing more offensive than going after the people who served the united states of america. all he had to do is watch college football this weekend. the highlights of the chanting crowds. people jumping out of their seats. that's the contrast between

what biden is trying to do and tell everybody how bad america is and policies that are suppressive and what people want and need and are excited about, college football. >> harris: or something that they feel like they can get behind. he gave us another example of where people are united. they're united but it is not with him as he goes into a flood zone and they want to talk about our troops. republican senator rand paul not letting up on his quest to get to the bottom of the origins of covid. he claims new public documents reveal dr. anthony fauci lied about gain-of-function research and funding during his previous testimony to congress. gain of function is the term for research that deliberately changes an organism to make it have better spreadability is the best way to put it and gives it new function so scientists can test a theory on it. it is usually about spread. senator paul here. >> they were taking viruses not

transmissible to humans. adding s proteins, how the virus attaches to the cell. low and behold they created viruses not found in nature that were more transmissible than what they started. the very definition of gain of function. viruses are more transmissible to human. why is it not gain of function? >> harris: today "new york post" summing up the controversy with a scathing cover. it's a real wu done it based on the wuhan lab. >> dr. paul is schooling dr. fauci at this point. it ends up dr. paul is right. as somebody who has done these investigations congress now a, needs to hold hearings. embarrassing democrats aren't holding hearings on the origin of covid but you need to go to the next memo. the memos and grants go out by themselves. not just dr. fauci who writes the check.

you need to bring in the people who are a level below him and say we'll make you a national figure and take your picture and parade you in front of the cameras and get you to do a transcribed interview unless you start coming clean what happened. when you start getting those documents and that layer of specificity, then you are going to surround what i think is dr. fauci who should not be in government at this point. he should either be suspended because he is under suspicion or should just be dismissed because the american people don't like him and don't trust him and we need somebody in that role that america does trust. >> harris: spoken like a true chairman of oversight as your former job was. jason, good to have you in focus. thank you. >> thanks. >> harris: renewed ethics concerns over hunter biden's art dealings as he is getting ready for his big money gallery show. a top republican is demanding congress investigate and then there is this.

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>> harris: a new fx docu-series based on bill clinton's affair with monica lewinsky premiered last night. liberal media dismissed the former president's role in making lewinsky's ex friend

linda tripp the villain who secretly recorded conversations of lewinsky with clinton and shared the tape with investigators. she was interviewed and didn't ask her about the married guy who had the affair, bill clinton, until the end. >> an affair between lewinsky and then president bill clinton was revealed following a betrayal of friendship. linda tripp secretly recorded monica confessing to her relationship. how many dramatic license is there? did these conversations really take place like this? the story affects a lot of people, not just you and linda tripp who has recently passed. the clintons. would you want bill clinton to see this series? >> you know, i don't even know how to really answer that. >> harris: joe concha, media

and politics columnist for the hill. as i watched that last night i wondered what it was supposed to accomplish without asking the real question. did this tell your story and did it do enough? >> great point. sounded like an audition for mean girl too. linda tripp not available to defend herself. it is a very interesting title, right? impeachment, american crime story. i wonder why president clinton's name wasn't included there. impeachment can apply to a couple of people. this documentary as you said makes linda tripp the villain here. she is played by an actress named sarah paulson who played marsha clark in the o.j. series. if you need a real life betrayal you go to paulson. the fact that the president, who had the affair in the oval office with an intern half his age isn't the one that is the main focus here or his wife who talked about bimbo eruptions

and didn't exactly paint herself in a great light, either, is interesting here. monica lewinsky never married, no kids. >> harris: not for lack of trying. >> you hear the name monica. the trump documentaries like the one turning james comey to a sympathetic figure came out while he was in office. this clinton documentary comes up 22 years later so boy, it took a long time before we saw what obviously was one of the biggest news stories we've seen in modern politics in 1998 and 1999. >> harris: we've watched it for a while. when people go down the road it's a gender thing, no, it is more. it can be that but it is more about a bias thing. because for years mainstream media, i never have called it this. they called it the monica lewinsky affair. it's the bill clinton affair.

married man doing all this covering up and lying, being impeached, blah, blah, blah, on and on and on it wasn't her. was she involved, of course. but it is putting the villain rap on somebody else and they've been doing it for more than two decades. >> married man and most powerful man on the planet. she was an intern. it wasn't a one off, he has been accused of a lot worse than many folks as far as coming on to people that didn't want those advances. you would think that bill clinton would be the focus here. as usual, since he has a d next to his name he seems to be getting a pass here. >> harris: top republican on the house oversight investigation calling for investigation into the hunter biden artwork as cause for major ethics questions.

it is the oversight committee's responsibility to scrutinize mr. biden's business activities because he chooses to conduct them in the most murky and corrupt corners of international affairs. your response. >> i would like to know who is buying this art. what are they getting in return? you are supposed to believe the first-time artist is getting $500,000 for a painting because of his great experience or because he has done this well in the past. of course not. it bears repeating the former white house chief served in the obama, biden administration. everybody has a problem with it. it's selling off the family name. the ultimate bias. if you know if this was donald trump junior or eric trump it would be the apocalypse. >> harris: the bottom line it

puts joe biden in a capitulateed position. it's why you don't want these things out there. maybe somebody can be bribed. maybe there is information out there. if we give his son everything that he wants for this whatever kind of art it is, that he is getting a ton of money for maybe it will buy us access. that's the bottom line. >> and it is a compromised position except that the president rarely takes questions at this point, you know. the vice president for that matter where you could find jimmie hoffa before you can find kamala harris unless it's the gavin newsom campaign trail. the third rail of journalism. thou salt not talk about hunter biden with anybody from the white house because it's not kosher. >> harris: the only reason he is famous because of his last name. thank you.

bombshell emails obtained by fox digital show the state department refusing to grant official approval for private evacuation flights for americans who are still stranded in afghanistan. and this. >> allowing the taliban to pick its most wanted, it's top draft picks out of guantanamo to now see them in charge of what is quickly becoming a terrorist super state is just a slap in the face. >> harris: the outrage over former guantanamo prisoners released by president obama in a prisoner swap. they're now atop the new taliban government. general jack keane in focus next. teraever going to if you're use your va home loan benefit to get cash, now is the time. because interest rates are near record lows and home values are at record highs. the newday 100 va cash out loan lets you borrow 100% of your home's values and you can take out $ 50,000 or more.

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>> harris: taliban announcing their interim government after taking over afghanistan. four of the incoming cabinet members were released from guantanamo bay by president obama in 2014. that trade as you remember was

in exchange for former u.s. army sergeant bowe bergdahl whom the taliban took as a hostage. maybe the worst of it. taliban's interior minister is the founder of a terror group which has been blamed for attacks on coalition forces. he is wanted by the f.b.i. with a $10 million bounty on his head and reportedly is believed to be holding at least one american hostage now. senator lindsey graham calls the interim government a lineup of thugs and butchers. here is what graham tweeted. what could possibly go wrong with a cast of characters? national security correspondent jennifer griffin is live at the pentagon. some of these details are tough. >> incredible. this is what happens when you negotiate with taliban and elevate their leaders, many of whom are terrorists, as the u.s. government did 2 1/2 years ago. as one former afghan female politician put it to me the

u.s. government legitimized the barbarians. who is in the new interim cabinet. mullah mohammed akhund with close to former taliban leader omar who welcomed osama bin laden to afghanistan. the new prime minister served in the last taliban government until 2001 when he was foreign minister and deputy prime minister. new defense minister is the son of mullah omar, the spiritual founder of the taliban choice is the new interim interior minister who will oversee the brutal taliban police. haqqani has the blood of american troops on his hand. currently holding an american hostage. financed by the pakistan government for years and has up to $10 million bounty on his head from the f.b.i. members of congress have weighed in quote, haqqani is

the taliban's new interior minister for the same reason there is a bounty aon his head. a blood thirsty terrorist. armed, dangerous and running a country we just abandoned. americans are still trapped. that from senator ben sasse. four taliban senior leaders once detained at guantanamo bay. they were released as you mentioned by the u.s. in 2014 under the obama administration when president joe biden was vice president in a controversial prisoner swap in exchange for the release of army sergeant bowe bergdahl who was kidnapped by the taliban. traded to the haqqani network after desserting his army post. new cabinet, no women or minorities, bound to affect the taliban's ability to get international recognition or financial aid. 80% of the afghan government budget comes from international

aid. women protestors were violently struck by taliban security forces in recent days. it is also important to note, harris, that the pakistani military, air force has been carrying out air strikes this week in the panjshir valley taking out the last resistance to the taliban. the first international leader to come to kabul and meet with the taliban was the head of pakistan's isa, their version of the c.i.a. close ties. >> harris: i'm just kind of watching that pakistan connection and it is such an important one to watch. i was looking at that over the weekend saying there is air power now. but isn't it a pakistani national who now is second in command? isn't that the ground that people were allowed to kind of nest if you will in their terrorist ways? >> the way to understand it.

it is not a pakistani national but an afghan in charge but received tremendous funding for many years from pakistan and isi. what's important and every u.s. military commander going back for the last 20 years has been frustrated by the u.s. government's unwilling pakistan for funding the attacks on u.s. troops over the years. that is coming into the forefront as the pakistan and taliban unite with this new government, which is by far from democratic. >> harris: we're all perched to see what the biden administration will do next. jennifer griffin, thank you very much. for more on the new afghan interim government i want to bring in retired four star general jack keane and chairman of the institute for the study of war. general keane, you warned us. you looked over the horizon and

said here is what's coming. we're seeing some of it come to fruition. >> no doubt about it. certainly this is a barbaric thugs and killers and not surprising they will fill their cabinet with the leaders of those barbaric thugs and killers. they are all hard liners. one is worse than the other. as jennifer pointed out, haqqani, who is going to be kind of like the state police in charge of repressing the people and keeping them in line, yeah, wanted by the f.b.i. in 2011 his organization killed 77 soldiers in a single incident in a province when a truck suicide bombing incident. he laid siege to the u.s. embassy also in 2011. somewhere in the neighborhood of two plus weeks. so yeah, these are the thugs, these are the killers, this is

expected. there is no surprise here. let me make an editorial comment to your comment about pakistan. four presidents now we've had, not a single one of them has ever stepped up to the plate to stop the pakistan military and intelligence from providing assistance to the afghan taliban as the two safe havens we have. here is the assistance. indisputable evidence one, training, two, resources, and most importantly three intelligence on u.s. and afghan operations that we were conducting. the pakistanis got american blood all over their hands and nothing has frustrated me more about the war in afghanistan than our inability to come to grips with what they've done. now they are out in the open and the lying that they've done for all these years is really frustrating to deal with. >> harris: that's what i was

saying to jennifer griffin and that's why it is so important to know what the biden administration is going to do with pakistan. we don't have eyes on the ground anymore. you talk about intelligence. one thing not to get anybody but somebody to be giving it to someone else about us and we have zero capability on the ground to see any of it happening. that's why i think, too, to add to what you're saying, they have to have a plan for pakistan. i want to move to this. fox news digital learned that the state department blocked private flights to get americans out of afghanistan and to keep them from landing in third countries. a portion of a leaked email indicates -- this is a quote here -- no charters are allowed to land at d.o.d. base. you need to find another destination country. and it can't be the u.s., either. meanwhile secretary of state antony blinken denying reports the taliban had blocked americans attempting to fly out. watch.

>> as we understand it, there are groups of people who are grouped together, some of whom have the appropriate travel documents and american passport, a green card, a visa, and others do not. and it is my understanding that the taliban has not denied exit to anyone holding a valid document and we're not aware of anyone being held on an aircraft or any hostage-like situation in -- >> harris: do they think we're stupid? they are getting that information from the taliban. we deny there has been anything. they want to cut our heads off. >> there are two things going on here. taliban is an obstacle and impediment right from the beginning when we started the withdrawal. but two, the state department and my talking to former veterans as well who are -- not former veterans, veterans involved in these operations have allocated that the state

department will deny charter flights getting to the location they want to send them. this is an absurdity. we all know where the american people came out on the withdrawal that was chaos. we have not had very good crisis management out of the state department. here we are now post-u.s. troop withdrawal and we still have chaos. here is the issue. these groups that are working with the american citizens and afghan partners, they have their names, harris, and they know where they are. the state department or u.s. government has got to take charge and work with these folks, put a centralized list together of all the names and the locations so we can line up airplanes with what the requirement is. these people are trusted. these veterans are trusted by

these folks. noebld -- nobody in the state department will gain their trust. we have to work with each other. the fact that the state department is stifg our veterans who have actual contact with these folks and have a plan to help get them out is pretty outrageous as far as i'm concerned. here we are blowing again this evacuation when we can really bring it under control. the government has got to work with these private organizations that have named themselves like pineapple express and others and this can get done. the other thing is blinken continues to minimize the requirement. anybody dealing with these groups knows full well there are several hundred american citizens still in afghanistan and tens of thousands of our afghan partners and we should stop now from minimizing these numbers and why it's so critical. get the centralized list put together, united states government and let's start

working with the private organizations to get our people out. this can be done. >> harris: hearing it from your military perspective and hearing it from senators who i have had on this very program shows you there are two lanes that look at the state department as being defunct and if what you are saying is true it's not just they're incapable or incompetent, whatever the word, but they are blocking it. i want to know why. i think the american people deserve to know why. general keane, thank you for being in focus and bringing us your expertise always. president biden focusing on mask mandates in the classroom amid multiple other crises. this is the pivot, this is the pivot away from afghanistan. there is so much to cover there. he is choosing to pick a fight with gop governors from blocking schools from implementing the rules. is the president playing politics with the pandemic?

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>> harris: a minnesota bail fund supported by vice president kamala harris during her 2020 campaign helped set an accused domestic abuser free. now just weeks after his release, he is back behind bars after prosecutors charged him with murder. senior correspondent mike tobin is live in our midwest bureau. >> having been jailed on domestic violence charges george howard posted $11,500 bail. he did it with the support of the minnesota freedom fund. the freedom fund became well-known during the riots that followed the murder of george floyd in minneapolis. politicians and celebrities got on board posting bail arrested during the riots and kamala harris was one of them.

if you're able to chip in now to the minnesota freedom fund to help post bail to those protesting in minnesota. it banked $35 million and continued to bail people out stating if a judge determines a person is eligible for bail they shouldn't be stuck in jail because they don't have the same money others do. one of those bailed out was george howard august 6. a few weeks later there was a road rage incident. ortiz was shot and killed. he was charged with second degree murder. the freedom fund acknowledged supporting his bail and tweeted under new leadership mff has implemented changes to its policies and procedures and we'll continue to assess them and to insure that we are being responsive to the safety and needs of our community. howard reportedly says he didn't do it. if convicted looking at a maximum of 80 years in prison. >> harris: just so i get it straight, mike. howard was released this

summer, not 2020. this wasn't when the now vice president was vice president but she is still among the highest profile to push that fund because this happened more recently. and there is a residual effect when you send out a tweet like that. mike tobin, thank you. >> the residual effect and you see the amount of money they raised. residual effect because they raised so much money and continue to bail people out. you can make the direct link with this, an indirect link. >> harris: that's for fighting through the train. it was important to get your answer. thank you. the vice president is set to campaign in california today with governor gavin newsom ahead of a recall election next week despite her own low approval numbers and a heap of criticism for her handling on the border crisis. critics are calling her out for the absence of the multiple crises facing the biden

administration. >> sending kamala to help gavin is like asking charlie sheehan to be your sponsor at aa. >> harris: let's bring in david avila and leslie marshall. david, i will start with you and just get your top line thoughts on this. >> kamala harris going to california won't have nearly the impact that the ballot harvesting that democrats will do will have on this election. you remember, harris, ballots can show up 17 days after election day into election officials and they still get to be counted. democrats in california have made it the essential part of their playbook of having folks go out and collect ballots. doesn't have to be a family member or even know the person to be able to collect ballots and turn them in for folks.

there is no limit to the number of ballots one person can turn in. so you factor that in and you also factor in can republicans do better in 2021, better than they did in 2020 in some of the key areas outside of riverside if that's the case? we have a really good chance and certainly i know there are a number of republicans complaining about the vice president going out there but i would offer to you the less she is in the white house making decisions as incompetent as this administration has shown itself to be, that's probably better for america. >> harris: you speak your mind as well. leslie, it is interesting to me it would be needed for gavin newsom. is he in trouble? >> i don't think he is in trouble. when we look at the numbers especially since the espy decision with regard to the abortion in the state of texas. we've seen many more ballots being put in. my concern would be as a

democrat here in the state who voted no myself on the recall, harris, we're not seeing ballots being returned. that should also be concerning to republicans. i said it before -- >> harris: hold on. i want to get this in because i want to know your thoughts. david avila brought up something and now it really matters, right, david? you talk about ballot harvesting. would there ever be a problem with somebody hanging on with boxes and boxes of stuff and i'm not clairvoyant so i'll ask you. you've had fires and a lot of stuff. but the problem with that 17-day wait you don't want to go beyond the fact it looks like somebody is losing and all of a sudden you have a ton that are found. your thoughts on that? >> certainly we don't want to see that. look at all the voting restrictions that copped up in especially red states throughout the country after that. hearing that and no offense to david but i think hearing that from my republicans on the right and some of them are

friends shows just how confident they are even that gavin newsom like we the democrats are confidence the vote no on recall. the recall will not be successful and larry elder won't be our governor. quickly to kamala harris. elizabeth warren has been out here. the rallies are 100% newsom supporters. some of these individuals though the approval ratings may not be high there are still people big in the party and at the end of the day it doesn't matter who is next to you on that stage whether you are running for president or in a recall election as governor just like endorsements. it really doesn't sway voters typically. >> harris: you saw what happened to the president in my home state of new jersey. the shout is contagious about afghanistan. people care about more than one thing at a time. what actual reception kamala harris gets. president biden taking on some republican governors over mask mandates in schools in what appears to be an attempt to

steer the conversation away from his messy dangerous deadly afghanistan exit. biden's department of education has opened civil rights investigations into schools masking policies in five republican-led states. the washington examiners interpret it this way. he is trying to pick a domestic political fight he can win. not a coincidence as his approval rating has tanked on every other issue other than the pandemic biden is trying to pick a fight with republican governors over covid and the hill with this headline. biden's muscle questioned amid falling polls. leslie, i'll go to you first this time. >> i wouldn't say it's a pivot. before afghanistan and before we left afghanistan the education department and the biden administration were clear in the districts. one of the reasons is federal law to disabled students.

children with various disabilities. the law states that educationally and accommodation-wise they have to have accommodations for those disabled students. remember right now the parents are the ones complaining in these states. seven lawsuits and one of the lawsuits in florida the only one so far where there has been a ruled in favor of the parents and against the state with regard to masks because of the disabled students. >> harris: david. >> harris, i'm glad you used the word pivot. we're pivoting from making progress and encouraging vaccinations to political theater. think about this. if a violation of a civil right to not wear a mask how is it not a violation if you don't get a vaccine or stay six feet away from somebody? this is setting up a trial lawyer college fund for their kids. you will have pass this through the courts and you'll have

trial lawyers suing everybody they can to make a buck. all at a time when we're trying to make progress and getting people to take their now third shot and those getting that haven't gotten it. this is why the intensity against the biden administration grows and why newsom is in trouble. >> harris: i took notes while you both talked. it is a hot topic. thank you leslie and david. "outnumbered" after the break. so many do not know that. there's no expiration date on your eligibility for the va home loan. every veteran, every service member out there if you're thinking about buying a home if you're thinking about a cash out refi whatever you're thinking with a mortgage, you should come to newday usa first. veteran homeowners. three reasons to do a cash out refi right now. home values are high while rates are low.

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