broken down just thinking of it. i can't imagine what it will be when i'm actually in that tunnel and we'll walk through that tunnel and it will be very, very emotional. >> bill: we'll be here for them when he arrives. >> dana: that was so moving and really lovely. >> bill: the commitment he laid out there. forever. i said to frank, i said how much weight have you lost? he said i haven't lost any weight. he said the firefighters feed me every day. >> dana: as they should. >> bill: he us today. harris faulkner is now. >> harris: we are outside of our fox news city headquarters and we begin with president biden imposing an unprecedented vaccine mandate on american workers. and republicans are furious. i'm harris faulkner in "the

faulkner focus". the president announcing that companies with more than 100 employees must now require workers to be fully vaccinated or to undergo weekly testing. he also announced all federal workers and contractors must be vaccinated or risk getting fired. the president says it is not about your freedom but this marks a drastic 180 for both president biden and his press secretary, jen psaki. here is what she used to say about vaccine mandates. >> president biden: no, i don't think they should be mandatory. i wouldn't demand it would be mandatory but do everything in my power. i don't think masks have to be made mandatory nationwide. i will do everything in my power as the president of the united states to encourage people to do the right thing. >> that's not the role of the federal government. that is the role that institutions, private sector entities and others may take. that certainly is appropriate. >> harris: and a lot of

response as you might imagine. mississippi governor is calling out the president's about face. >> the president and all of his team for months and months have been telling the american people they would never issue a vaccine mandate and once again this president has gone back on his word and has done the exact opposite. we live in america. you would expect words like that from the president, maybe of communist china or north korea but you don't expect words like that coming out of the mouth of the president of the united states. >> harris: check this out. a "new york post" op-ed pulling no punches. joe biden's incoherent fear mongering covid vaccine speech. in a moment we'll get reaction from dr. marc siegel in focus. i want to bring in mark meredith live at the white house. already some events there with the president. but all eyes on this president to see when exactly he might take a question or two. >> that's right.

the president wrapping up an event a few moments ago. yesterday when he unveiled several new steps he says to end this pandemic and the white house is hoping these new steps will make a big difference. critics argue the government is simply going too far trying to end all this and forcing these mandates. target is 80 million people in the country not vaccinated right now. the president once again blaming the lingering pandemic on those americans who have chosen so far not to get the shot. >> president biden: many of us are frustrated with the nearly 80 million americans still not vaccinated. even though the vaccine is safe, effective and free. >> what is the president doing here? he is going to have osha start a rule that requires companies with 100 employees or more mandate the vaccine or undergo weekly testing and expand the vaccine requirements for federal agencies, federal workers as well as contractors. we know medical workers that work at places that are tied to medicare or medicaid

reimbursement will be required to be vaccinated and also asking the concert halls, stadiums, event venues to ask people to prove they're vaccinated to go in and double the fines for people refuse to wear a mask, in public transportation. the white house says it is not all about rules and punishments. they want to make it easier for people to get the shot. employers will now be required to make sure people are paid time off to go get the vaccine as well as to recover if needed. and what's interesting is almost instantly after these announcements were made we heard so much reaction from republican governors vowing to fight it. moments ago president biden responded saying he is quote so disappointed in those republican governors but they argue they are standing up for their constituents and also hearing from the former vice president mike pence who once led the coronavirus task force right here at the white house. >> we have governors across the country what they needed and

when they needed and respected them to make the decisions best for their state. now to have a president not just scolding the american people but scolding governors around the country, it is just not the american way. >> we'll see if the white house has new reaction to former vice president pao*ens later on today. the white house is calling on governors to have schools require vaccinations. the fda says they're working around the clock to eventually get the vaccine approved for younger children but there is no timeline when it may happen. >> harris: with just a few words yesterday the president managed to hit in a sweet spot every single american in the united states from birth to 90. seriously, this affects everybody. >> you are right about that. >> harris: dr. marc siegel is in focus now. doctor of medicine and professor of medicine.

you and i have been together since the beginning of this pandemic calling balls and strikes. call this one. >> harris, i don't like how political this is. you just heard about it from mark meredith. all this warring about governors. it's not a legal or political story. it's a medical story. the vaccine protects you from severe disease and to some extent prevents others from it spreading to you. here is why the -- the president is saying that unvaccinated people are lepers. watch out for them. they are going to infect you. it is leaving out the fact that if you are vaccinated, harris, you are almost definitely no matter who you come in contact with are not going to end up in the hospital or end up dying or get severe disease. calling it a pandemic of the

unvaccinated isn't accurate because vaccines protect you. and it is playing to people's -- when it comes to large businesses i would think large businesses would come to this conclusion on their own and many have saying we don't want our employees to be unvaccinated. we will offer that option where you can test out but we really want to try to get everybody vaccinated to protect our business. so our business doesn't have to close. so that it doesn't -- we don't lose our workforce. i think it's a private sector issue and i don't think governors should be involved. i don't think the president or governors should be involved. i don't think we need to get people vaccinated by shaming people. >> harris: last i checked joe biden has never been a doctor nor would he be one. when he says he is running out

of patience, imagine how small businesses and the rest of america feel about the pandemic, whether you are a vaccinated or not. we're running out of patience. we want freedom and freedom from the virus. not only is president biden imposing personal medical decisions on the public he is also, dr. siegel, telling parents how to parent their own children. >> president biden: for any parent it doesn't matter how low the risk of any illness or accident is when it comes to your child or grandchild, trust me, i know. so let me speak to you directly. the safest thing for your child 12 and over is to get them vaccinated. they get vaccinated for a lot of things. that's it. get them vaccinated. >> harris: trust me, he says.

dr. siegel? >> i also didn't like when the president talked down to primary care doctors in the united states like me and urged us to have a conversation with our patients. are you kidding me? we've been doing that for months and months and months and we don't need to hear it from a politician or a president. we've been doing it. we go over it with our patient. plenty of minority groups are afraid to get vaccinated. they never trusted the medical establishment and certainly not the government. the president is putting it all into one group like it is all republicans. not the case. and he doesn't need to talk down to doctors or to parents or children. one more thing. the way to address the school issue. he was very light on this. he needs to get it so that kids can test at home before they go to school. we need free rapid testing in every household so that children can be tested before

they go to school. that will keep schools open. >> harris: when we travel with our corporation, fox, you can get a little kit and you can do this at home. it is not difficult. it is very quick. you send it out if you need to, depending on type of test it is. you get quick results. you can do it right there in your kitchen. dr. siegel quickly, there has been a lot of talk about joe biden not mandating things for his own staff at the white house. >> yeah. that's very concerning, too. that's the kind of hypocrisy and changing messages all the time that doesn't work. of course the white house needs to be a place where everybody is vaccinated and everybody is wearing masks. you can't get up at a podium and criticize other people unless you do it yourself. one more thing on this. it is not one size fits all. i want all health care workers vaccinated and everybody in contact with other people that could spread it vaccinated but it is not like every single

person in the united states presents the same risk and there was no differentiation made. to your point, start with your own house. >> harris: there you go. dr. siegel, thank you for again joining me in focus to figure out stuff that we've heard from those who want us to do what they say all the time without asking any questions. good to see you. thank you. critics tearing into the white house for praising the taliban as being business-like and professional. who are they hanging out with they think terrorists are that? while at the same time we see the horrific brutality, you know the reality that new taliban government is exacting on its own citizens. police officers ran into and not away from danger at 9/11. honored as heroes in the weeks and months after the attacks. but today fast forward. our men and women in blue are the ones under attack. a special focus panel including two of those who responded at

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>> harris: tomorrow we mark 20 years since the deadliest terror attack on u.s. soil. nearly 3,000 souls lost that day including 72 police officers, with many more wounded. some 300 officers have died of 9/11-related illnesses in the years since those attacks. we remember and honor their

sacrifice. kathy, a former nypd officer and president of survivors of the shield, her husband, detective joe, was an nypd officer who died on 9/11. his brother was a new york city firefighter who also died while rescuing people from the twin towers. also here lieutenant, a former nypd officer who responded on 9/11. so thankful to have you both here and thankful for your service. your thoughts on 20 years. kathy, i'll start with you. >> my initial thoughts, it's just gone by so quick. my children just grew up before your eyes. >> harris: take us back to that day. >> on 9/11 i put my children on

the bus and the fedex driver came to my house delivering a package and said to me a plane just hit the twin towers, did you see that? i said no. my first thought was my husband was going to have a busy day. going to have fun and i went inside, turned on the tv and there was a replay of the plane hitting the towers and on the bottom of the ticker tape pulling all rescue workers into work and so i immediately got my son, he was 3 months old at the time. took a shower, took him to my mom's and headed to work. i was driving on the lie, first i stopped to get power bars because i knew it would be a long day. it was different because it was checkpoints along the lie that were making cars come off the road and check in for i.d. from

rescue workers. i was stopped. >> harris: so people have an idea that is still pretty far away from where you were going. they were checking you into the city basically and you were going all the way through the city, all the way down to manhattan. that gives people an idea of we knew we were under attack. >> i was 60 miles away. >> yeah. >> but my heart started pounding, a little scary. i didn't know what i was driving into. listening to the radio they said the queens court was being hit, pentagon was hit. we didn't know what was going on at the time. >> harris: you know, lieutenant rich, you led some folks in the police department and on that day you were called to be everything to everybody. >> yes. it was a difficult day.

i received a call that the plane had struck the towers and when i turned on the tv the plane was hitting the second tower. i was supposed to get a new car that day and i need to get to the back. i was on a motorcycle of most of 9/11 because of the confusion of what was going on. >> harris: what are your memories about surviving that day and those around you? because you both knew people who were sacrificing themselves. you were all going into a scene that you didn't know what you were going into, not fully. >> so basically my first day they didn't want anyone else going down because of the concern of other emergencies around the city. they had a couple thousand police officers down there. we were on stand by in the

station house and we had to actually shut down the highways to the city. the next day i was down there for the second day on. >> harris: wow. your husband, his brother, kathy, we're so sorry for your loss and i know that people that you led, you lost as well. there is actually more to this story because that was 20 years ago and the moments, the days after heroes, all of you were and we are oef in such a different spot right now. and i do want to get to that because that is going to bring in two more of our guests at this point. forgive me, you know we are in a windy location outdoors right now. in the days and months after 9/11 americans celebrated the bravery of those who rushed into harm's way. we fast forward 20 years and we know where we are right now with defund and so much

happening. and we will show you that video right now. [bagpipes playing] ♪♪♪ >> in our city's darkest hour they were called to act and they did. and they did so in the highest tradition of the new york city police department. >> the names of the honor role today reminds all of us to never take for granted what they did on that day. >> harris: so we all feel that. it's palpable kathy and rich are sharing their stories and so many of us have our own to remember back on that day. things are quite different now. let's look at the current reality for our heroes.

>> it's happening all over new york city right now. [crowd chanting] >> harris: you know on "the faulkner focus" we always keep in focus our law enforcement and you will see familiar face efs -- fasts now that i want to bring into the show. congresswoman from florida is with us. republican congresswoman is with us, too. her husband is a firefighter and we often talk about where

we are today. joe, i will let you set that up and i want to bring in our nypd guests today. joe, exactly where are we compared to where we used to be and how people thought just 20 years ago about the men and women who ran into those towers on 9/11? >> you know, after 9/11 we were regarded as heroes. for several years it continued to be the opinion of us. things have certainly changed. there are 800,000 police officers across this country willing to give their lives for their community. imagine the resolve and cure -- courage. if the community look at us through those glasses although some who have demonized the women and men of law enforcement. the demonizing of us and the anti-police sentiment has caused horrific consequences in our communities, murders are up.

we've had over 20,000 murders in 2020. the first time we hit that number since the mid 90s. 2021 we're outpacing that number. we've had over 220 police officers shot in this country this year and ambush attacks against us are up 148%. yet you still have radical elements out there saying we should defund the police? these people are charl tons selling snake oil to the public. it is ridiculous. >> harris: to my left is rich, who the way i first became familiar with you we were covering an incident on the brooklyn bridge last summer of 2020 and you actually turned out to be one of the officers who had to be hospitalized after being attacked on the bridge. >> that's correct. i was attacked on the bridge and i have been dealing with protests for 20 plus years. and in this particular case this was an organized attack

against the police. unfortunately these attacks continue. >> harris: why do you think it is so particularly bad right now? what is happening? you heard joe talking about it. what are you seeing as officers on the ground? >> it is a multitude of things. society became a lot more divisive over the last five years. and it's a shame because as we talk about 9/11, september 12th this country was really unified. we need to try to figure out a way to bring that back. police officer have made numerous sacrifices over the 150 years of law enforcement from the boston bombings to dallas police officers, five dallas officers who were killed protecting protests against them. >> harris: that's right. >> we're out there.

in this particular case where i was injured we were out there to allow people to peacefully protest. unfortunately it got turned on us and it seems to continue. >> harris: kathy, what is your experience with this and where do you see it going? >> i'm sickened by how the city has changed. police have been demonized and it's -- >> we've worked with so many officers over the years who made sacrifices like her husband, joe, like partner i work with dave, who we worked with who passed away from 9/11. and over 260 officers have now died from 9/11 illnesses. more than were killed on 9/11. about the same amount of firefighters as well. >> i'm afraid for the officers today because they are being watched 24 hours. not being watched but being criticized for the good job that they do.

they do excellent jobs. they save lives every day and -- >> with the sacrifice that we've been doing and the same with covid as well. we've lost 60 people of the nypd to covid. it is just -- the sacrifices continue. in covid's case the police officers are taking home that illness to their families. >> harris: another part of the story we don't get into. again you are doing your job to protect the people. i know from talking to emts and first responders they are in the same sort of situation. firefighters in a very similar situation because it is a push against all of those who might wear a uniform. how do we know? we have a congressman from florida. your husband is a firefighter and you are experiencing this through him. >> that's right, harris, absolutely. as the wife of a first responder my husband is a driver/operator, firefighter

and swat medic. not only do i have the fear of not seeing him at the end of a shift when he comes home, but when he does come home and if he does, then what is he bringing with him? because when it comes to protecting our first responders, our law enforcement, it seems to be an afterthought in today's society. it is really a shame. my husband became a firefighter in large part because of the 343 firefighters that gave their lives on 9/11. he watched his brothers and sisters run into the towers be and give their life for their neighbors, state and country. that service is demonized today. it is heartbreaking. you look at what we're coming up on tomorrow, the 20th anniversary. i was in manhattan yesterday in a homeland security hearing and i listened to experts from the firefighter, from nypd and fema and dhs, homeland security, the

actionable propaganda that has been perpetuated by biden mishandling of afghanistan and our southern border has created a gold mine for al qaeda, isis k-and that is putting our country and homeland security in jeopardy but also putting our first responders and those on the front line in even more danger. we have got to get back to a place where we revere and respect those on the front lines. their service matters. defend the police not defund. >> harris: and defend the country with the police and first responders. from what i hear you saying and talking with military analysts for three weeks now is we were trying to get out of afghanistan and this is the place, this is the time to remember what they mean to us in our lives and that we will need them moving forward. it is good to see all of you. thank you for being here. we'll be right back. medical information support for you on the way out for some of our police officers. we'll be right back.

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and were business-like. >> you say the taliban is business-like and professional. their interior minister has a $10 million bounty on his head. what's the business? >> we're here to celebrate the return of american citizens who wanted to leave afghanistan. in order to get those people out, we had to work with some members of the taliban to press them and to work in a business-like manner to get them out. >> harris: so the proof, the evidence, the facts are hard to look at but they are important to see. that's what the white house is saying. here is the truth of what's happening on the ground. new photographs paint a very different picture of what is going on. they are graphic images so i want to give you a preamble to pull little ones during the day away from the tv. these are pictures of injured afghan journalists who say they were brutally beaten in police custody after they covered a

protest for women's rights in kabul earlier this week. we've been getting picture by picture. these are the closer-up ones we've been able to get. i want to go deeper on this. "washington post" columnist marc thiessen is with me and former white house speech writer and fox news contributor. the overarching question i've been asking this week as the white house calls the call ban words like business-like and people they have to engage and do conversations with. is there something at play here the american people may not be aware of that we need to be? what's going on with their messaging and the evidence of the pictures that the taliban are not who the white house says they are? >> you know, the biden administration keeps painting itself like we are oef in these situations beyond our control. we have to work with the taliban to get these americans out. the reason you have to do that is because you left them behind in the first place.

joe biden left american citizens, american permanent residents, afghan allies who risked their lives for us during the 20 years of war, he left them behind not by accident, intentionally. he ordered the last plane to take off knowing they were there. and that he was leaving them behind. and by the way it is not just our nationals. it is nato allies, too. canada, germany, britain, france were forced to leave behind their citizens and allies and nationals in afghanistan as well. for the administration to say now we have to work with the taliban is because you abandoned them to the taliban. >> harris: and didn't give your allies a heads-up. you saw germany and france special forces having to get as many of their own people out as they could in the early days of the exit. senator tom cotton went after the white house over its response to the taliban.

watch this. >> it's the same gang of terror savages we saw 20 to 25 years ago. the biden administration seems to be more worried that the cabinet in afghanistan is full of men rather than that it's full of terrorists. >> harris: wow. diversity is always the thing i guess. but wouldn't survival be better? >> look, these are the same people -- on the 20th anniversary of 9/11 the president of the united states is kowtowing to the people who attacked us on september 11, 2001. remember the bush doctrine. if you harbor a terrorist you are as guilty as the terrorist and the enemy of the united states of america. the people in charge in the cabinet now are the people who harbored the terrorists of 9/11. the prime minister, taliban prime minister was the deputy prime minister on 9/11. intelligence chief who is a

gitmo detainee according to his file utilized his office to support al qaeda, arranged for al qaeda personnel to train taliban intelligence staff and methods. the information minister, the gitmo detainee directly associated with osama bin laden and trusted and respected by him. deputy defense minister wanted for war crimes by the u.n. and had a significant associations with al qaeda. these are people who attacked us and kowtowing to them on the 20th anniversary of 9/11 because they are holding our citizens hostage. >> harris: china and russia and others have to be looking at us dealing with terrorists and think okay, pretty much we can get them to do anything. dr. fauci is under fire. i will move on to this quickly. dr. fauci is under fire again. i know, marc, i want to talk to you all the time. newly released documents show samples in the wuhan china laboratory with 10,000 more

viral load as normal. the data is a bona fide bombshell. the wuhan lab violated federal policies and endangered the public. dr. fauci has repeatedly told congress his group didn't fund research that strengthened the virus. here is jen psaki again. >> nih has refuted that reporting. nih has never approved any research to make a coronavirus more dangerous to humans. there are previous on different coronavirus than the existing one we're battling. >> harris: marc. >> this is no longer just rand paul saying this. the intercept went to 11 scientists experts in virology. only one disagrees this was not gain-of-function research. what jen psaki said is untrue. a doctor who is a microbiologist from rutgers looked at this and said it is

beyond dispute the nih funded research in the wuhan lab. reality is they have an interest in covering this up. confluence with the chinese communist party. no one wants it to come from the wuhan lab because we may be culpable. >> harris: we'll be together on another day. president biden facing huge blow back for publicly shaming the unvaccinated. >> today was more hostile towards the unvaccinated in his speech than he has been towards the taliban in afghanistan. >> harris: critics saying the president's tone is pitting americans against one another and making millions into villains and this happened again. >> get vaccinated. >> harris: why does he keep whispering at us?

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>> president biden: our patience is wearing thin and your refusal has hurt all us. do the right thing. >> harris: president biden from yesterday. it includes shaming the unvaccinated. greg gutfeld called it out. >> the great unifyer is saying that all those that are vacsed are mad at those that aren't. it is not true. it is to cause division. basically he said the unvaccinated are the new activities. he showed more anger toward that 80 million than the orderly and kind taliban.

>> harris: republicans torching the move on twitter. lloyd smucker called it a massive government overreach. andy biggs an assault on american freedom. larry moore, we must fight back against medical tyranny. mo brooks tweeted liberty and freedom are at stake. matt schlapp and richard fowler. great to see you both. matt, top line thoughts. >> this is just crazy. if you look at the other vaccines for serious diseases that we have in this country, none of them have the type of survival rates we have when it comes to this particular virus. it is a very serious thing and great tragedy that people have died but we have something in this country, we have a written constitution. people like me we don't use drugs and chemicals that are defriefd research on feetal

remains. that's written into the constitution of the united states. people in this country have the right to practice their faith, not practice their faith. no president can remove the first amendment no matter how obnoxious he finds it. >> harris: axios is pointing out how it could play to the mid-terms. >> he is testing business leaders resolve. democrats in swing states on the line ahead of 2022 mid-term elections and attempting a tsunami of litigation. what is your reaction to that? >> thanks for having me, harris. i heard what greg gutfeld said and i had disagree with him free mentally. i'm somebody who is vaccinated. it is because i want to see them live. i want to see every american live as we commemorate 9/11 i don't want to see another

american perish from a preventable virus. we have more hospitalizations across the country and deaths. we're almost turning the clock backwards when you think about the number of hospitalizations and deaths. don't get me wrong i'm not saying the president's words weren't a little stern, they were. i think we need to do everything in our power to insure we prevent the spread of covid-19 and one of the best ways to do this is through vaccinating more and more americans. >> harris: one day you and i will talk about this by extracting the politics, richard and talking about all the people of color like you and me resisting the vaccination because they don't trust the government. it is a whole separate issue and there are a lot of them. here is how biden ended yesterday's news conference. >> president biden: get vaccinated. [shouted questions] >> harris: what?

matt. >> you have know, you don't make a strong case when you are unwilling to take any questions. i know for a lot of people president trump rubbed them raw because he was constantly in the face of the media answering questions. some people could say maybe he was overexposed. but the idea that -- if richard is right that this is the health emergency that it is, then he ought to take some questions. if this is the health emergency that it is, don't always have the politicians talk. let doctors talk. what we see on social media is doctors who disagree are being throttled. that makes people wonder what's really going on here. >> harris: it is an open conversation that's necessary. as i just mentioned, richard, people are coming at this unvaccinated or vaccinated from different directions. a few seconds left. your last thought. >> i have a lot of healthcare folks in my life and my mom and people in my life doctors and nurses. what they say on the front

lines is they're seeing cases they saw last year and months before that and saying to themselves how are we back at this position? >> harris: gentlemen, we'll come back another day. i'll thank everybody for watching. we're on the fox news plaza. i wanted to be out here because this is where life is and we're coming back. you have know it's true. 9/11 we respect and we honor. "outnumbered" after the break.

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>> you are watching a special edition of "outnumbered." 50 to 15 years of terror attacks september 11th, 2001. we are together outdoors. i am harris faulkner. here today, cohost, emily compagno, along with kayleigh mcenany. during this hour, we will look back