congress doesn't have to take the vaccine. he can't two branches of government. he doesn't have the constitutional authority to order othat. it's a state issue. not a federal issue. nothing in the federal constitution gives him the authority for public health and force vaccination. todd: we have got to go "fox & friends." ♪ ♪ >> democratic governor gavin newsom has survived a recall election. >> i'm humbled and grateful. we lost the battle but we are certainly going to win the war. [cheers] >> general mark milley is accused of conspiring with communist chinese to undermine president trump. >> it is the essence, a military coup for lack of a better term. that's what it would equate to. >> senators of both parties piling on the top diplomat. >> the execution clearly and faithly flawed. >> debacle. >> such colossal incompetence.

>> alex murdaugh admitting to hiring a man to kill him so his surviving son could collect a $10 million life insurance policy. >> running to be the next governor, couldn't, because protesters shut it down. >> i'm running for governor. >> they want to silence me. not a big deal. because most michiganders are sick and tired of that madness. ♪ ♪ i can't get enough of you baby. steve: good morning, everybody. it is 6:01 wake-up call wednesday, september 15th. beware of the ides of september 2021. welcome to "fox & friends" for a midweek. ainsley: everyone is waking this up morning what is happening in california? who won? did gavin newsom get recalled? the nos have it. california's governor gavin newsom gets to keep his job after he declared the winner of the recall election. steve: turns out he had a mountain of money behind him.

big tech donated tens of millions of dollars to the anti-recall campaign. giving newsom a gigantic financial boost over larry elder and all of his other rivals. brian: this was called after an hour. william la jeunesse joins us frontrunner larry elder's fiery response. update us. >> brian, ainsley, steve, nice to see you guys. with any election there is always going to be suspense because you never know when the polls are wrong. but, as expected, governor newsom did defeat the recall 64% of the vote. so ironically newsom long ignored the recall to an august poll showed 50/50 that he could lose. so the party shifted into gear. hitting up those wealthy liberals and corporate donors, mobilizing union volunteers and the state's sixth largest newspapers for support and democrats turned uncertainty into victory. last night newsom said california didn't just vote no on the recall but yes on climate change, abortion rights, vaccine and mask mandates.

>> i'm humbled and grateful to the millions of californians who exercised their fundamental right to vote and express themselves so overwhelmingly by rejecting the negativity that's defined our politics in this country. >> democrats won by focusing on former president donald trump, calling republican challenger larry elder a clone. without party support in a state where no republican has won statewide in 15 years and democrats outnumber republicans 2 to 1. elder conceded defeat last night. >> my opponent, governor gavin newsom. [crowd boos] >> come on, let's be gracious in defeat. we may have lost the battle but we are going to win the war. >> so finally about 4 million californians actually did what newsom said which is they voted no on the recall and they did not choose a replacement. newsom's term ends next

november. there is something i want to tell you that you won't read into the papers. climate change big deal with gavin newsom and president biden? neither one mentioned vice president harris took that 15 hour flight flew 5,000 miles, generated 25,000 pounds of carbon dioxide for a 12-minute campaign speech. back to you. ainsley: you definitely won't read that in the paper. steve: that's great nugget. thank you, william. you know when you look at how california turned out and keep in mind california is two to one democrat to republican. ainsley: right. steve: 88% of those people who voted in san francisco voted for gavin newsom. 88%. it was a landslide. 76 in los angeles and 61% in san diego. and the only way the democrats could -- rather republican challenger could win if the democrats didn't show up or organized -- that didn't happen

newsom made it a referendum on, you know, it was do you like the way i'm running covid? and then it turned into who do you like better me or larry elder? ainsley: a lot of the timing though? this all started in june of 2020. and they didn't like his response to covid. shutting down the businesses. then he was caught in the fall at the french laundry. looked very hypocritical and then they delayed, delayed, delayed, and at that point it was a winning message mask back up after the delta variant hit. brian: why was he recalled again? i remember he is terrible at his job. rolling black outs, keeping kids out of school, locking down a state worse than any other state in the country. forcing businesses to flee. first time maybe ever leaving california than come in. he has invited and had a flourishing -- he now has a flourishing homeless population and is pushed to get to everybody go green has gotten the state rolling brown outs and blackouts. and in order to keep a job you have got elected with 62% of the

vote with, you have to get $83 million, unbelievable. 3 million from the ceo of netflix? you got to be kidding me. embarrassment. ainsley: 750,000 from priscilla chan the wife of the facebook ceo mark zuckerberg. also got money from uber, walgreen's, nbc universal, anheuser-busch, air b and b, warner brothers. tat and anthem blue cross. steve: voters sided with newsom on coronavirus. even though coronavirus was the reason they got 1.5 million signatures to have a recall, people actually sided with him on that. 45% in the state said newsom is about right on coronavirus, about a third said too strict. and 18 percent said not strict enough. and what's interesting and we're talking about masks on kids in school all the time, 70% of the people nbc polled in their exit polling, 70% say they are okay with their kids going to school in california wearing a mask.

brian: yeah, that cutting edge idea of stopping people from eating outdoors in california and keeping businesses shut down, that's why people just said listen, i'm outnumbered here. i'm going to leave. as beautiful as the state is, as diverse as it is, i'm going to go elsewhere. joe concha weighed in on the big picture what this means because knowing going in that they were saying he is a trump clone. you don't want donald trump. you don't want any of these republicans, especially leah elder. >> it's being treated as some sort of indicator this victory that all is well with the biden administration and the democratic agenda. it's not. if this was pennsylvania or wisconsin or ohio or michigan or arizona, those stays that decide elections and we saw result like this, i would say yeah, that's a bellwether, boy, that's a bad indicator for republicans in 2022 in terms of their messaging, the celebrations won't take await fact of what is happening in california, say, for example. rampant homelessness, rising crime, high taxes won't go away.

one of the biggest states in terms of exodus from its state in the union outside of new york. ainsley: like you said, brian, a lot of people did leave. a lot of people have gone to texas. that's probably the state where most of them have fled. but, if you talk to some republicans there, why don't you leave? they say because i have a job. brian: what are you going to do? ainsley: my industry is here. steve: they have great weather but they have high taxes and a lot of regulations and they have got earthquakes. ainsley: look at new york they just announced our taxes are going to be 60.1%. you are going to bring home $4 out of $10. steve: unbelieve it or not william mentioned the re-election ends in nine months. newsom could be running against larry again next year the primary puts all the candidates from both parties, all the parties on one ballot. so, we could see a replay of what we saw yesterday in nine month. ainsley: there were 46 gubernatorial candidates on that ballot. steve: larry elder won by a giant plurality, i want to say 39% or 43% of those who gave a

name. ainsley: 39.8. that's how many voted to recall. i don't know how many of those were larry elder. brian: that's interesting. it's going to be interesting to see if gavin newsom ends up stronger. four years ago they said this governor of california is the future of the democratic party. get stronger. larry, scott walker when he beat his recall, he was riding high for a while. ainsley: did you watch gavin newsom when he addressed the crowd? he was very emotional. you could tell he was worried about it. brian: yeah, absolutely. $83 million gets you over that. steve: it does. do you know who could be the big winner yesterday could actually be joe biden. joe biden flies in at the last moment and turns out people out in california like coronavirus and he actually endorsed the winner, not the loser. ainsley: he had kamala, he had joe biden, he had obama. he had elizabeth warren. he had bernie sanders. steve: a team. brian: i'm pretty sure he didn't deliver 30% of the vote because he had incomprehensible series

of remarks in a speech in the middle of a forest. but we will see. i know they wouldn't have put him out there if it was even close. nine minutes after the hour. a fox news alert. officers were called for an incident involving a missing 22-year-old gabby petito two weeks before she was actually last seen. >> ainsley: this was weeks before she went silent on social media and her boyfriend drove home to florida without her. steve: in her van. ainsley: and hired a lawyer. steve: and now has clammed up. carley shimkus is here with the latest as petite toe's boyfriend breaks his silence. >> gabby petito set off with boyfriend and former fiance on a cross-country van trip early july. after the 22-year-old stopped making contact with her family, her mother reported her missing and now police are revealing a concerning detail to fox news saying, quote. our officers did respond to an incident on august 12th, 2021

neither brian or gabriel were the reporting parties. insufficient evidence existed to justify criminal charges. now, petito's mother reported her missing on september 11th after her daughter, an active social media user quote, went off the grid. meanwhile he drove back to florida alone. breaking silence through a lawyer saying it is our hope that the search for ms. petito is successful and that she is reunited with her family. on advice the counsel the laundry family is remaining in the background at this juncture. gabby's family left shocked from the lack of detail from the boyfriend saying brian is refusing to tell gabby's family where he saw her last. brian is also refusing to explain why he left gabby all alone and drove her van to florida. these are critical questions that require immediate answers. now, the distraught family also pleading with the public to be on the lookout. >> unless you are the parent,

you know, you just can't describe how that feeling is because you have never felt it before. and i pray that no one ever feels it again. carley: laundrie has not been accused of playing a row. they do want to speak with him about the case. family and friends are heading to wyoming to retrace gabby's last steps. guys, over to you. steve: carley, that's the part that's so confusing. you know, something happened. carley: something happened. steve: obviously. why would he drive from wyoming back to florida in her van and not tell anybody where last saw each other? carley: her van and then he is not saying anything on the advice of counsel, according to his lawyers, of course his family isn't speak out either. i spoke to her dad yesterday, and she says as a 42-year-old man, please, he is begging with people, to keep gabby's picture in their minds. especially in the immediate area

or anywhere throughout the country she really could be anywhere if and we pray that she still is alive and to keep an eye out for her or anything that looks suspicious that could help with this investigation. ainsley: can you imagine what your dad would do if you were missing and the boyfriend comes home without you and not talking in your car. my dad would be in his face in two seconds making him talk. carley: i want to say i think that's why he said several times on fox news yesterday he doesn't want to talk about the boyfriend. he want to keep the -- he wants to keep the conversation on gabby. you can sense a lot of anger there. ainsley: time is of the essence if you are a father you want to go find your child and without any answers you don't even know where to go. steve: it's a big state. at the very beginning, carley, you said he was her former fiance. carley: yes. so there were some conflicting reports on boyfriend, fiance, apparently they were engaged but then broke it off. however, on the outside, on the surface seemed to be good with them because they had a youtube channel together where they were detailing their adventures on this cross-country road trip and

on the surface everything seemed fine. steve: oh, man, and then i think it was in the grand tetons last time she posted and the mother hadn't heard from her for a week or two. and so there is a lot of territory between florida and wyoming. carley: yeah. it's a heart breaking case and we hope that there is a positive outcome to this one. brian: all right, carley. thanks. 14 minutes after the hour. still ahead antony blinken blasted both sides of the aisle over the chaotic exit from afghanistan for example. >> mr. secretary, the execution of the u.s. withdrawal was clearly and fatally flawed. >> you are the united states secretary of state. you own this. brian: he was like a zombie yesterday. the new calls for the secretary of state to step down which he will, of course, ignore. ♪

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jillian: good morning, we are back now with your headlines, south carolina lawyer alex murdaugh admitting to hire a man to kill him so his son could collect his $10 million life insurance policy. officials confirm that curtis edward smith was arrested on assisted suicide and fraud charges. no charges have been announced dependence murdaugh who survived the shooting. murdaugh's wife and son were found shot to death in june. no suspects have been named in their murders. to fox weather now tropical depression nicholas is slowing to a crawl over louisiana. forecasters fearing the storm could bring as much as 20 inches of rain to areas across the state. nicholas making landfall early tuesday in texas a category 1 hurrican at last check, more than 200,000 people are without power. a state of emergency is in effect for louisiana. first responders anticipate making water rescues as the waters rise.

the widow of this marine killed in the kabul airport bombing has given birth to a baby girl. levi rose mccollum was born camp pendleton 8 pounds 10 ounces, her father reilly mccollum one of 13 service members killed in the attack last month. online fundraisers have raised more than $900,000 for his daughter's education. "saturday night live" alum and comedian nor norm mcdonald's is dead after a long private battle with cancer. took to twitter to pay tribute. steve martin we loved are norm mcdonds one of a kind. honest and courageous comedy genius. i love him. conan o'brien writing norm had the most comedic voice i have ever encountered. i will never laugh that hard again. mcdonald's was just 61 years old. brian: he was a guest on the show. i don't know what he was promoting i forgot. he was great. >> i think he had a series a

limited series on one of the other shams. ainsley: he had that dry sense of humor and he was young. 61 years old, cancer. steve: so sad. jillian, thank you. brian: meanwhile that came out in the middle of the day right after the senate foreign relations committee was able to grill antony blinken. why was antony blinken alone secretary of defense austin said he didn't want to show up he rejected the invitation. tony blinken sit there the defense department told me this, without the cia there and intelligence failed me here. i think it was pretty amazing, too, that antony blinken was able to blame donald trump just like he did from day one. most democrats outside of senator menendez let him get away with it when it dime stranding americans and green card holders and allies. when it came to not knowing whether kabul would fall, when it came to not being effective in getting our military hardware out of there, he had no effective answers. here's a little of what we heard. >> mr. secretary, the execution

of the u.s. withdrawal was clearly and fatally flawed. there has to be accountability. >> we had a terrible status quo as is by your own admission the afghan government even after billions of dollars in 20 years was not self-sustaining, was not resilient, we should have known that as we began to draw down support. we were going to see the potential for a collapse. >> since the disaster began unfolding in afghanistan, we have seen the biden administration making political excuses. joe biden is the president of the united states. kamala harris is the vice president of the united states. you are the united states secretary of state. you own this. >> the notion that general milley said that nothing i or anyone else saw indicated a collapse of this army and this government in 11 days, i just don't think that's true. steve: it was bipartisan in the criticism. his day two of testimony was worse than day one. still no basic answers to basic

questions why everything went wrong. and, brian, to your point, when push came to shove, it's donald trump's fault. we were just, you know, i listened to most of it in the car. we were on a little road trip yesterday. and his answers were pathetic because he -- i don't know. i don't know. i will have to get back to you on that. ainsley: senator risch republican from idaho trump said if they failed there would be grave, grave consequences. he said trump's agreement was contingent on the taliban reducing their violence. steve: right. ainsley: he says you can't compare the two. senator ron johnson slammed the administration. remember they called the withdrawal very successful or extremely successful? and then senator mitt romney said why didn't you delay the deadline? why didn't you make it longer so that we could pull out the sivs and pull out the americans that were there? and then senator bob menendez the democrat was so disappointed as you were saying that lloyd austin did not appear that he is threatening to subpoena him now and called the withdrawal fatally flawed. brian: so here is rand paul on another aspect of our dismount

from afghanistan, the biggest military failure in american history. whatever happened with that drone hit on the so-called isis-k members because we seem to have indication, according to the "the washington post," and "new york times," that you killed allies and his family. listen. >> the guy the biden administration droned, was he an aide worker or an isis-k operative? >> the administration is, of course, reviewing that strike and i'm sure that, you know, a full assessment will be forthcoming. >> you don't know if it was an aide worker or isis-k operative. >> i can't speak to that and i can't speak to that in this setting in any event. >> so you don't know or won't tell us? >> i don't -- i don't know because we are reviewing it. steve. >> you would think you would know before you off somebody with a predator drone whether is he an aide worker or an isis-k. ainsley: the "new york times" is saying he was a u.s. aide worker and his name is samari ahmaudy.

steve: worked for california based charity nutrition and education international. he applied for refugee status. he should have been one of the people we evacuated from that country along with his nine children. but, instead, we blew him up. and, of course, the secretary of state knows the name, knows who he worked for, but, yesterday, it was very embarrassing for him because he, for the most part, was the architect of what went wrong. ainsley: this u.k. army colonel saying there was an afghan sniper who helped us. he was hunted down by the taliban in front of his family. he was executed, shot multiple times. he said he was in hiding but the taliban found him. brian: there is 18 million afghans who depend on the government for food and clothing on a daily basis. now, we supported the afghan government to a great degree and now there is no tax system, there is no imf support. there is no aid come in. so they're saying hey, america, we need some money. we let all your guys out.

we really didn't have an incident except for that one explosion at the gate, so we need aid. you are a big country. show a big heart. they thanked the world for $1.2 billion. but will afghans are wondering where their food is, where their clothing is? guess what taliban? you wanted a country? you have a it guess what? they're asking for us to pay. are we going to support aid to the afghans? do we have a big heart for the people that we work with? sure. but what guarantee do we have that the money we give is going to go to the right people because they also said yesterday that our dni experts believe that al-qaeda will be able to launch attacks from afghanistan within a year. fantastic. steve: well, brian, to your point, if we give the money to the taliban government who is the taliban government? we know half the guys are on america's most wanted list already. so they're terrorists. you get 50-million-dollar, a 100 would where is that money going

to go? brian: ask china? steve: to the hungry people? i don't think so. ainsley: we don't have anyone do the vetting tell who is going to get on the planes. we don't have anyone to help our allies over there? what do you do give it to the taliban in the former president of afghanistan left. steve: during the presidential, blirchen did admit that apparently a majority of the afghans who got on planes and flew out of afghanistan were not properly vetted. and they were not people who were sivs or people that we effectively wanted to get out of there. they just somehow got on a plane and got out of the country and now the united states government has got to figure out what do we do with them? ainsley: remember that story last week that said there were 100 people so far that had to be investigated, further investigated. because we weren't sure if they were connected with terrorists. steve: there were thousands who were not properly vetted. brian: we did get a lot of biometrics the last 20 years and a lot of people shooting irises turns out we don't like them. we don't know them. and others blink red which means we have got to move him over

there let's send him to i believe kosovo is the place to go if we think you are a bit of a. steve: trouble maker. ainsley: even thousands haven't been vetted there were 100 here reported here in the united states that had to have additional investigation. are. brian: evidently some in virginia have an uber app. because they like to go off base, fantastic. steve: stinkin' blinken time to resign. brian: that's why the president's rating dropped to 42%. let's hope people don't forget this still ahead as they chant at football games blank biden they don't have to put that on the big scoreboard that comes from the heart. gavin newsom overcomes the recall push, we will talk to a panel of small business owners who feel the win will embolden the governor to enact stronger restrictions if that's possible. ainsley: facebook is under fire over instagram's toxic impact on the self-esteem of impressionable teenagers woke inc. vivek ramaswamy is going to react to that.

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push our next guest fear his win will encourage more lockdowns and policies that are hurting their small businesses. cynthia was among 50 napa valley restaurant owners who sued the governor over the state's outdoor dining and wine tasting ban. erin byrd said he made recalling newsom his business after threats of fines and charges for defining indoor dining restrictions at his distill lerry. you may remember san francisco hair salon owner who was forced to close after death threats for releasing in video of a maskless speaker nancy pelosi visiting her salon during the shutdown. they all join us now. good morning to all of you? whatever it happened that. >> unfortunately i did shut down my hair is a son and now i'm just renting a chair in central california because, unfortunately, with the way things are going, i am not confident to reopen a new salon

at this time. ainsley: i'm so sorry. are you thinking about leaving? >> i actually am working part time in nashville, tennessee. that's just because i am -- we are afraid of, you know, if is he going to especially now that he has not been recalled, to have another shut down. ainsley: taxes are a lot better down in nashville, too. cynthia, i know you are tired with the roller coaster with these mandates. how do you feel about this recall? >> well, i'm hoping i was trying to look on the bright side a little bit. i'm hoping this is a wake-up call for governor newsom there were people like me who were really upset with him and the actions that he took along with our coalition of wineries and restaurants during the pandemic. and i'm hoping he realizes that our small businesses are integral to california remaining the fifth largest economy in the world. and if he can't just continue to shut us down. he has to find a way to protect health and protect our

businesses and the economy and the employees that we employ. ainsley: aaron, i know you say the recall, despite the fact you didn't get your way, is still a success, why do you say that? >> well, it was a huge grassroots effort. we were very, you know, under funded compared to newsom's 70 million that he got. i think about 10 million, maybe, was raised across. and it was great to see this revolution of small business owners and dissatisfied parents and just ordinary californians who, you know, put their foot down and said we need change here. so, i feel optimistic for that and where i think we will see a lot of businesses leave the state now, i think the majority of us are going to stay and fight. and try and take our state back. ainsley: he actually got $83 million. a lot of big tech companies. so, cynthia, how is this going to affect you going forward? what are you going to do? i'm talking to some friends in california? why don't you move? they said we can't we have got our business here. they are in the entertainment industry, successful in

california yet they are republicans. what do you say? >> well, my partners and i have been serial -- few of us have opened, you know, successfully restaurants throughout the years in california. but, i'm not sure any of us are interested in opening additional brick and mortars here right now in this kind of business unfriendly climate that's happening here. and that's pre-pandemic as well. business unfriendliness leading up to it and the pandemic was the straw that broke the camel's back. the existing restaurants we have here, of course, we have to continue to stay open for us and for our employees, but i'm not sure that we continue to invest in california. ainsley: erica, many of our viewers are waking up this morning they wanted to know what the results were. what was your reaction when you found out that gavin newsom is staying? >> i was absolutely devastated. i think small businesses are devastated. again, i traveled up and down the state speaking and this is

not a republican recall. this was a bipartisan recall. a democrats and republicans alone are small business owners. but, again, i do think this was a huge success. because a small group of people did put some fear into the governor to the point that he actually had to fly out the vice president and the president. so, i'm honing that, you know, we did push for him to have a little bit of a scare. ainsley: i wonder if this election to come place, the recall took place right after he was caught at french laundry what the results would be but they delayed and delayed. so many people now are happy with what's happening after the delta variant. thank you so much for being here. i wish you all the best with your businesses and hope you don't experience more lockdowns. we're all ready to move on. >> thank you. >> thanks for having us on. ainsley: thank you. 20 democrats blocked amendment that would have barred amnesty with illegal immigrant with 10 or more dui convictions. a mom whose son was killed by drunk driver in the country from illegal and the congressman

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for all-day, all-night protection. can you imagine 24 hours without heartburn? steve as lawmakers face how to pay for the $3.5 trillion spending proposal, 23 democrats have voted down an amendment proposing to prohibit giving amnesty to people in this country illegally with 10 or more dui convictions. that's right. you can have 10 d. i convictions and still get amnesty. the move infuriating angel parents like our next guest whose son matt tuesday was killed by a drunk driver in the united states illegally about 10 years ago. there he is right there. marie malone joins us now. she lost her son matthew. also mike johnson who introduced that amendment. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> good morning. steve: marie, what happened to your son?

>> so matthew was 23 years old and he had just graduated college. wanted to be a police officer. and he was driving home on his motorcycle in a many are area when a drunk unlicensed illegal alien ran a stop sign and collided with matthew. matthew survived the initial impact and the illegal alien decided to flee. when he did he ran over matthew and dragged matthew a quarter of a mile to his death. steve: oh my goodness. i'm sorry. thank you for telling that story but i'm sure it's just rips your heart out to tell it every time. congressman, obviously, driving drunk is not -- is not good for anybody. but it can have, you know, tragic consequences as it did in matthew's case. and so that's why what you proposed seemed reasonable. you have a dui, you shouldn't get amnesty, right? >> well, that's exactly right, steve. most americans are not realizing that part of this as you said this $3.5 trillion spending

palooza includes amnesty for somewhere between 8 and 10 million illegal immigrants in this country. we wanted to test the limits there and see if there is anyone that the democrats would exclude from that amnesty blanket that they're trying to toss across the country and so we brought amendments for convicted sex offenders. they wouldn't go for that we brought amendments for gang members, ms-13 members. they wouldn't go for that so i said what if someone has been convicted of dui very dangerous crime as you said it kills thousands of americans every year and juries hundreds of thousands, they wouldn't go for that i brought another amendment. how about 2 or 4 dui convictions had? they wouldn't do that how about 10 or more as you said all the democrats on the committee voted against that amendment. so, people need to be aware, there an amnesty program that is not only blatantly unlawful, outrageous, it's also very dangerous for all of us. steve: terrible. maureen, imagine those 23 democrat lawmakers are watching you right now. what would you tell them about

the consequences of awarding amnesty to somebody with 10 or more duis? >> well, you know, i think alarms should be going off across this country. this is a -- not a partisan issue. drunk driving -- drunk drivers don't care if they're killing democrats or republicans. they don't care who they're killing. that's why they drive drunk. i would say to these democrats, look at your family members, which one of your family members are you willing to sacrifice because it's not a matter of if these illegal aliens with prior duis are going to kill somebody, it's when they are going to kill somebody. steve: yeah. unfortunately, you know, and congressman, that's why, obviously, by amping up the number from 1 to 2 to 10, you were trying to make a point, and that is it appears some democrats are going to vote for this regardless of what is in it even if it doesn't make any

sense. >> that is exactly right no limit on appetite for amnesty. they want to erase the rule of law as we know we have an open southern border. we have people coming in from at least 150 countries according to border patrol customs agent. and we have hardened criminals coming across that border and democrats do not care. that's the point. they're on record over and over. we had a 1-hour judiciary committee hearing on monday. and they went on record time and time again. they do not care. and we're so sorry for maureen and her loss. there will be more losses in america if these policies are enacted. this is very dangerous stuff. and everybody needs to wake up and realize what's going on here. steve: congressman, thank you very much for getting up to tell us what you tried to do and a maureen, thank you for joining us and telling us about your son matthew. >> thank you. steve: you bet. all right. 14 minutes now before the top of the hour. and it's currently about 73 degrees here in new york city. it's room temperature.

janice: it is a little bit of humidity, a cold front move through this afternoon and this evening bring potential for showers and thunderstorms in the area. take a look at the maps. i want to show you where we have tropical depression nicholas it was not moved very much since yesterday and is not going to move very much in the next 24 to 48 hours. flood advisories in effect for parts of louisiana, mississippi, alabama, even the florida panhandle. this is going to be the biggest story out of this storm. it doesn't take a hurricane or even named storm to cause a lot of damage from flooding. because this storm is moving so slowly, it's going to bring a lot of moisture in from the gulf of mexico and that is my fear that we're going to see the potential for more heavy rainfall across areas that saw, you know, record breaking rain from ida over the last couple of weeks. also, watching the tropics out in the atlantic, two areas of low pressure. that one close to the east coast. so we will have to keep an eye on that over the next couple of days. we will keep you up to date from fox weather. i love the sound of jack hammers in the morning, steve doocy, back to you. steve: they were just waiting for you to start your on tv

stuff. janice: that's right. exactly. steve: when i walked in at 4:00 they were doing it. janice: overnight. steve: those guys have significant o.t. janice: yeah. see you soon. steve: i'm sure you've heard this, calls for general mark milley to resign over reports of secret calls to his counterparts in china behind then president trump's back. senator tom cotton will join us to react and i think i have got a pretty good idea what he is going to say. plus colin kaepernick is back in the spotlight this time with a brand new netflix series. >> radiate our joy. take back our power, and by doing that, we can become who we are destined to be. steve: hear why former nfl player jack brewer calls this anti-american indoctrination. jack is next. good morning, grand rapids. ♪

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brian: former nfler colin kaepernick back in the spotlight this time with a brand new netflix series.

watch. >> when we're young, we're told that the world is ours. and then one day we realize that the fame we are playing is someone else's. >> we can write new rules, radiate our doors, take back our power and find our purpose. by doing that, we can become who we are destined to be. brian: i only saw that. we see the descriptor, former nfl player jack brewer knows what it's like to rise through the ranks through athletics and go beyond that jack, what do you think the message is? what do you get from the promo and the descriptors? what are we going to see in this series? >> it comes across as godless to be honest with you whenever you are talking about self-and what i'm going to do and what i'm going to project and everyone is against me and i'm going to do this and not giving any glory to god. that's my first problem with it

as we know, you know, i pray for colin kaepernick but the reality is that he feels that the system is all against you. this country oppresses black and brown people. and i just don't buy into that totally. there are issues in this nation that we have to overcome still but, for me to land my plane back from haiti where i saw people walking around with no access to clean water, a country full of black people that are living in misery, when i see that and then i come back here and understand what we have and what the black blessings we have, i have it be thankful. the message to kids cannot be that you are in a situation where everything is against you because that's not true. i mean, when you look, there is immigrants that come over here. there are 61% of every nigerian in america has a college degree or better. and so you start seeing these type of things, there are a lot of prosperity and opportunities here that the world is looking to participate in, so colin

kaepernick's message should be to kids that they are actually blessed to live in the greatest country on earth. brian: for his personal journey, i don't get it multisports star in high school to a college star to a topic to one play away from the super bowl to finding his way to the bench but instead of coming back, he stepped out. and now we have colin kaepernick bigger than life hasn't played in 10 years. it makes you wonder what his message is? like what's wrong? are we not perfect? is that the problem? are we not -- are we so far away? is that the issue? >> exactly. i mean, we can all pick and choose those battles in our lives that are not good. we can all focus on the hate and not focus on the love. racism is a heart issue. it's a spirit issue. and so, oppression and racism happens all over the world. this is not an american issue. america is not the only place that had slaves. and if you want to go down to the root cause of it, the mass

majority of americans even in the 1700s and 1800s did not own slaves and did not have slaves. everybody did not participate in the slave trade and, yes, it was horrible what happened. do we still feel the results of slavery here? a little bit we do. but we still can overcome these things and we have to talk about positivity and all the good that's happening in this nation. brian: we will see what comes out. we saw that promo. i'm sure there will be more coming out. i will have a chance to talk to you again. jack brucia, thank you very much. >> god bless you, man. brian: and we all agree that giants disappointed us on sunday. >> no doubt. yes, we do. brian: you got it still ahead parents and veterans in colorado are fighting to keep politics out of the education system. hear from the new academy focusing on 'math, science and patriotism. can you believe it? i wonder if it will work?

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>> such a colossal incompetence. >> brand new details in the disappearance of gabby petito as her boyfriend breaks his silence. >> it's our hope that search for ms. petito is. >> what a joke. >> private citizens set to blast off spacex says first all civilian spaceflight? mission raising $100 million for saint jude's research hospital. ♪ ainsley: that's a shot of oakland, california where gavin newsom will remain the governor of that state. looks like they are still asleep there. a few cards on the road. it's going to be 68 degrees for the high. 55 right now. steve: it's 4:01 out in oakland, california. it's 7:01 here in new york city. welcome to hour two of "fox & friends." so, you know, we should not be

surprised that gavin newsom pulled it out in the last week or two. that's when the polls started, you know, reversing and the president and vice president went out. all the top democrats went out to campaign for him. but california is a state where democrats outnumber republicans 2 to 1. so we should not be surprised. and besides, gavin newsom was very effective in changing it from, okay, i know you 1.5 million of you signed the petition to recall me because of the coronavirus, but, in the last couple of weeks, when larry elder emerged as the frontrunner, suddenly he said okay, who do you know the? do you want me or larry elder who is a trump clone? brian: 64% voted yes. probably going to go up 36%. excuse me, no for recall, yes for recall 36%. roughly, it will move up and down a couple points when the final votes come in. they say if you look at the man it's exactly what trump did and exactly what trump didn't. the areas in which he didn't do

well, and wasn't expected to do well, in 2016, 2020 is exactly what gavin newsom got. is roughly how he got elected because, the democratic machine wanted him to win. but, if you look at his track record, please tell me what he did well. whether it's the rolling brown outs, whether it's the water infrastructure, the rise in crime, the rise in homelessness, the lockdowns so oppressive, and 50 states more locked down than anybody else for a longer period of time. the illegals that have poured into that country. the social welfare. they're all eligible for even though they don't belong here. here is the look at the happy and the determined. watch. >> i have been all over the state of california. conservative parts of the state, progressive parts of the state, folks that i know were going to vote no and votes that i knew were going to vote yes on this recall and turned out to do just that. you know. we may have defeated trump but trumpism is not dead in this country. >> the majority of the tee kind

state now the majority want him out. and they are calling this a republican takeover? it is insulting to the people of california to signed the petition and who voted yes on the recall. it is insulting. but that's how they roll. we don't roll that way. we don't finger point. we don't blame. we roll up our sleeves. we get back to it because, as i said before, we may have lost the battle but we sure as hell going to win the war. [cheers] steve: before the election, results last night, larry elder had suggested there could be shenanigans suggesting fraud; however, in that very long speech he gave last night. he made no mention of fraud whatsoever. he said let's be gracious in defeat. ainsley: it's interesting who gave gavin newsom money. he had 83-million-dollar. 3 million from netflix. 1 million from george soros. $750,000 from the wife of facebook ceo mark zuckerberg. uber, walgreen's, in connection

with universal anheuser-busch, warner brothers, at&t and blue cross. steve: planned parenthood and the dnc. ainsley: i forgot about that. brian: a lot of people made a lot of news over the last year pointing out how inadequate he has been as a leader of that state and how hypocrisy he has been. everyone else on zoom and of course eating at restaurants. caught him at one. got to think logically probably many more. here's a look at some of the owners that were hoping newsom would find the door. >> there is a huge grassroots effort. i mean, we were very, you know, under funded compared to newsom's 70 million that he got. i think about 10 million, maybe, was raised across. and it was great to see this revolution of small business owners and dissatisfied parents and just ordinary californians who, you know, put their foot down and said we need change here. >> this is not a republican recall. this was a bipartisan recall. democrats and republicans alone

are small business owners. but, again, i do think this was a huge success because a small group of people did put some fear into the governor to the point that he actually had to fly out the vice president and the president. so, i'm hoping that, you know, we did push for him to have a little bit of a scare. brian: we'll see. a lot of people think he will be more emboldened to do more of the terrible policies and that he is going to use some of this momentum to catapult the national campaign because there is really nobody else in the democratic side. tell me hot rising star is amongst democrats? where is the -- whether you like him or not ron desantis? where is the kristi noem? where is the people like nikki haley? you can add 10 contenders on the right even if you are not going to vote for them. they are out in the national spotlight. name somebody on the left. that's why they had to wake joe biden up and say take the nomination because nobody else has any national appeal.

ainsley: hoping kamala would be a rising star. i think aoc i think many of them love her. she is so progressive. brian: national star though? steve: that's why the dnc right now regards joe biden as their national star and until he says i'm done, he is it. brian: kind of bad the staffer wants to mute the television when you are on and that's your national star. six minutes now after the hour. america's top general now facing calls to resign. steve: the joint chiefs of staff chairman mark milley accused of undermining president trump during the final days of the trump administration. ainsley: peter doocy is live at the white house with these allegations. peter, tell us more? are. pete: the chairman of the joint chiefs is supposed to outrank the joint chiefs but the chairman of the joint -- yes, the commander-in-chief is supposed to outrank the joint chiefs. but the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff mark milley, according to a new book by "the washington post" bob costa and bob woodward went around president trump several months ago out of fear allegedly that

president trump was going to order military action against china. saying this: and i'm quoting from the book. general lee, i want to assure that you the american government is stable and everything is going to be okay. we are not going to attack or conduct any kinetic operations against you. he also allegedly said general live, you and i have known each other for five years. if we are going to attack. i'm going to call you ahead of time. it's not going to be a surprise. having trump impeached. alexander vindman writes this if this is true general milley must resign. he usurped authoritien broke command and violated the sacrosanct principle. it's extremely dangerous precedent. you can't simply walk away from that #do the right thing in the right way. senator marco rubio is saying this is a slippery slope.

>> imagine if tomorrow general milley decides i think joe biden is senile and so, you know what? i'm not going to follow his orders. i'm going to collude with russia and china to prevent us from acting or future president, i don't think he is in his right mind either. it is the essence, a military coup. >> president trump is saying if this story is true, he thinks it is treason. neither the pentagon or the joint chiefs are commenting about this on the record. back to you. steve: all right all right, peter. thank you very much. part of the book apparently is nancy pelosi called general milley and said hey, you have got to take the nuclear football away from the president and the general milley said i can't do that but i'm going to work my back channels. brian: donald trump talked about this last night on another channel. ridiculous i never talked about bombing china. also, have you noticed the president trump over the last four years? he was getting out of conflicts much to the consternation of many on the right. weighs not looking to bomb china or russia or even iran. they took out our $3 billion drone he didn't go after them.

ainsley: let's bring in arkansas g.o.p. senator tom cotton a member of the armed services committee. senator, you have to be just flabbergasted by this. we're going to let you know if we're planning to attack you? we will tell you when and where so you can get ready? >> well, ainsley, this book raises some serious concerns. i would say some of the allegations seem somewhat farfetched to me. general milley and secretary austin are going to be testifying in front of congress in just a few days. we will address these concerns. we don't want to jump to conclusions yet but we will certainly vet them and see exactly what happened. brian: senator, he can't -- this is too big for this. we can't wait for him to testify. if this guy is selling us outside to to china going behind the president of the united states and he is still in power fresh of off of the catastrophe in afghanistan, he has got to address this. >> brian, i know he will address it. and we will ensure that he addresses it. but this is one of those claims, obviously, that seems a little

farfetched the idea that an american military general is going to warn an adversary if an attack is coming? as you say, when donald trump was never even thinking about a military attack against china. the whole thing is pretty farfetched. i will say this though. that book also reports what's been widely reported, what we have heard in congress just over the last two days in testimony from intelligence officers and senior military officers. that joe biden disregarded the military advice he received earlier this year about what would happen if he went forward with his disastrous withdrawal from afghanistan. we ought not to forget that. we ought not be distracted from that ongoing fiasco for which there is so much work still to be done. steve: sure, jennifer griffin, our pentagon reporter, says pentagon officials say some of the characterizations in the book are not true. but, she says, he did make multiple calls with his chinese counterpart and nato allies at the u.s. not planning a surprise attack on china or anyone else. bob woodward and bob acosta

unbelievable reporters not like they have ever had to walk anything back on this nature. you have got figure at least somebody told them these things or multiple sources. but, ultimately, senator, a big -- if this is true, a big part of america is not going to trust the pentagon, which is the exact wrong thing for us because they think oh, you know, the guy in charge is playing the double game. >> steve, you are right. that we need to hear it straight from the horse's mouth. general milley will address these matters and we will be sure that he does address them. and you are also right that we have a principle going back to george washington of civilian control of the military. no matter how much the left in america disliked president trump. the no matter how much nancy pelosi thought he was unfit for office, and no matter how much we disagree with joe biden, we have one commander-in-chief who has control of the military in conjunction with congress' constitutional control of our military and that is a vital and

cherished principle. steve: senator, you don't want to judge him until you hear what he says. if he says, yeah, it's true. i called him. i called him a couple of times, then should he quit or should he be fired? j we need to know if those conversations happened what occurred in knows conversations. fairly common for senior military leaders and cabinet members to talk to their counterparts in other countries. so the fact of the conversation is less important than the content of the conversation. and that's why we need to hear straight from the horse's mouth and that's what we are going to do in the days ahead. ainsley: can you get transcripts of the conversations? >> ainsley, i don't know if that particular conversation was transcribed here. probably was in communist china. but i'm confident that we will get to the bottom of this in the days ahead. brian: yeah, i guess we will see. meanwhile, yesterday, there was some progress made on the senate side because secretary of state antony blinken had no answer for why you were not able to

understand that the taliban were on the march taking over that country surrounding and cutting off kabul and it was about to fall. he had no answer to why he left all our military hardware on the battlefield and now they got about $50 billion worth. and what about the fact that they're now asking for aid from us because they say we owe it because we allowed some of our people to get out. here is senator rand paul. >> you have now released $64 million in aid to afghanistan. don't we have some prohibition against giving aid and comfort to the enemy? are we really my eenough to believe we are going to send charity to afghanistan and they are not going to interrupt it? i think that's a foolish notion. can you pledge today without equivocation that the biden administration will not release any of this money to the taliban? >> absent the taliban making good on the commitments and expectations of the international community that i have outlined previously, that's correct. >> maybe we could conduct a fee for the weapons they took.

ainsley: and they also said that the taliban is calling on us americans to have a big heart. what's your reaction? >> you know, tony blinken has spent the last two case blaming everyone for the debacle in afghanistan except for the person who bears the blame, joe biden. and that's because tony blinken has been a long time aid and yes man to joe biden. it's not surprising he came up there and defended the president's claim that this was some kind of extraordinary success the president called it i wouldn't say it's an extraordinary success when we lost 13 americans to a suicide bomber when our military had to evacuate over 100,000 people. doing a great job on the ground. a job they never should have been called to do because of the disorganized and ill planned evacuation that they had to conduct because tony blinken's statement department, which let's remember, is responsible for that kind of drawdown and evacuation of civilians, had not properly planned and organized for it.

steve: okay. so you want to hear from general milley before you call for him to resign or explain himself. but we heard from tony blinken. should he resign? >> well, i think the person that's responsible for what's happened in afghanistan is unfortunately the president, not tony blinken and tony blinken is exexecuting the president's policy there are still some questions i have about tony blinken's preparation for this evacuation. and exactly how well the state department planned or how well they didn't plan. i want to get to the bottom of those. and we will see what those questions proof out in the long run. brian: his answer is going to be blame trump that's the plan i inherited and that's not acceptable. he didn't take any other plans from president trump. in fact he upended all of them. senator tom cotton, thank. ainsley: thanks, senator. >> thank you all. brian: you got it meanwhile fox news alert now. utah police confirmed to fox that officers were called for an incident involving missing 22-year-old gabby petito.

ainsley: this would weeks before she went silent on social media and her boyfriend drove home to florida without her. steve: carley shimkus is here with more as the petito's boyfriend breaks his silence through his lawyer. carley: that's right, good morning. here's what we know on this so far today. gabby's petito set off with her boyfriend and former fiance brian laundrie on a cross-country road trip in early july. after the 22-year-old stopped making contact with her family in august, her mother reported her missing and now police are revealing a concerning detail to fox news saying, quote: our officers did respond to an incident on august 1st, 2021, however, neither brian or gabriel were the reporting party. officers conducted an investigation and determined that insufficient evidence existed to justify criminal charges. now, petito was last seen in wyoming grand teton national park. laundrie has since driven back to florida in her van without her.

he is now breaking his silence in a statement through a lawyer saying, quote: it is our hope that the search for ms. petito is successful and that ms. petito is reunited with her family on advice of the counsel, the laundrie family is remaining in the background at this juncture. now gabby's family does not want him in the background. they are demanding more information saying brian is refusing to tell gabby's family where he last saw her. brian is also refusing to explain why he left gabby all alone and drove her van to florida. these are critical questions that require immediate answers. her distraught father also pleading with the public to be on the lookout. >> if you see something, you know, that just looks odd and is safe to, you know, just take a look, do it, you know, we got to find gabby. we have got bring her home. carley: now, laundrie has not been accused in playing a role in petito's disappearance but police do want to speak to him about the case. family and friends are now

heading to wyoming to retrace gabby's last steps. a lot of questions, guys, still remain in the story. steve: sure. carley, at the beginning, where you are talking about how moab utah police apparently got a call that there was a disturbance between those two, the call was not from either one of them. it was obviously from someone who observed something and the cops showed up and. carley: what was that incident? steve: right. carley: that the police were called to. police have not revealed that information yet. police in florida, by the way, guys, they have the van that they were driving in and they are searching it for clues as we speak. steve: tragic story it looks like. carley: to say the least. steve: we will see what happens. thank you, carley. steve: about 7:20 here in the east. it's a tale of two met galas. hollywood celebrities partying maskless on the red carpet as the workers around them are forced to cover up. karol markowicz says only the elite can skirt covid rules and she joins us live next.

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ainsley: celebrities and politicians flocking the met gala this week to party maskless in new york city. as they took pictures on the red carpet workers at the event were forced to wear their masks the entire time. new op-ed arguing covid rules are for servs not celebrities. none of the passes apply to us. joining new york columnist and spectator contributor karol markowicz. good morning karol. >> good morning, thank you. ainsley: thanks for being on with us.

what made you want to write it? >> so it's been 18 months much watching celebrities and politicians do whatever they want, skirt all the rules blatantly and the rest of us have to really live by these extreme measures, when i see the red carpet full of celebrities and the staff behind them all masked, it really makes me angry. i think we shouldn't have a two tier system. either covid is contagious for everybody and you all should be masking or not. and the idea that the staff is not vaccinated, which is obviously not true because new york city has a mandate forcing the staffers to be vaccinated is obviously untrue as well. they are all in the same status of vaccination wise. they are all outside. why is the staff masked? ainsley: it's interesting. there are so many hypocritical things requesting on here. you have aoc wearing a dress that says tax the rich yet everyone there paid $35,000 for a ticket to go into the event. so essentially saying tax

everyone here at this event. what did you make of that? >> well, i think, again, we are living in an age of hypocrisy where all these politicians have done whatever they want, all these celebrities do whatever they want and aoc is really representative of that to me. i think she really jumped the shark with this. she looked like, you know, a poser in her dress surrounded by super wealthy people that one of them clearly paid for her ticket. and i think that we hopefully are exposing the fact that there shouldn't be this two tier system for all of us. something that aoc pretends to care about yet, she has staff near her living a totally different life than she gets to live. and i don't understand how the left no longer sees unfairness of that. ainsley: yesterday newspaper front page was the hypocrisy of some politicians. you had the new governor of new york. you had nancy pelosi and you had joe biden all at an event and they were wearing the masks in front of the cameras but then someone took some pictures from your newspaper with them pulled down when they were talking to

other people. >> yeah. >> right. and especially gulling for me in new york city is the mayor, for example will go unmasked into a school, meanwhile 5-year-old has to mask indoors and outdoors. that's the other thing oh the met gala they were outdoors. well mya 5-year-old has to mask and socially distance at recess. ainsley: mine, too. >> running these kids' lives while celebrities get to do whatever they want. ainsley: well, everyone had to be vaccinated and once they went inside they wore the mask. have you heard anything about what happened inside? >> will, allegedly they were masked but we don't really see any pictures of that. there was a photo of kamala harris' stepdaughter who was at the event where she was masked and like some sequin mask doesn't do anything she removed it for other pictures. it's a show piece. you know, the other thing is kids in schools, even if they're vaccinated they still need to wear a mask. even outside. so, all of this is just, you know, a continuation of the

hypocrisy of -- i have a long thread on twitter that i started in august of 2020 where i highlight all the different politicians who say that we should mask, say we should live a certain way and say we should do certain things. yesterday a picture came out of terry mcauliffe of vearks governor candidate and he is unmasked on an amtrak. i get kicked off for that i don't know for b. him. ainsley: we kept hearing rules for thee and not for me. here is a perfect example. thank you, karol for coming on with us. >> thank you. ainsley: you are welcome. how toxic instagram is for teenage girls. facebook doesn't care because they are too busy silencing conservatives. vivek ramaswamy joins us live and racing for the stars. spacex launches first all civilian crew into orbit today. we will give you a preview from kennedy space center. ♪ ♪ welcome to the space jam ♪

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spacex rocket. steve: wow, phil keating is on the launch pad ahead of the inspiration 4 mission. good morning to you, philip. >> good morning, everybody. this is launch pad 39 a. the historic one that launched the apollo mission as well as the space shuttle missions and later toned around falcon 9 rocket poised vertical and ready for ignition. technically everything is a go. the astronauts say they're ready. >> tonight lifelong dreams for four private citizens are about to come true going into space. a top spacex falcon nine rocket and inside the dragon capsule this is the most ambitious space tour mission ever. the crew jared isakson a tech billionaire who paid for the entire trip. haley a childhood cancer survivor and physician assistant.

diane proctor a 2009 astronaut finalist and chris an air force and iraq veteran who works in the aerospace industry. their three day journey orbiting the earth by far outdoes what richard atlantic and jeff bezos flight did this summer. those were short and in low earth orbit. inspiration 4 will go into orbit 350 miles above earth. that's 100 miles further out than the space station. >> from the time this mission was announced in the hanger to where we are today, we have just been going super sonic. it's been super fast. you know, one training event after the next. a number of these life changing experiences in their own right in quick succession. >> certainly an experience of a lifetime. they have trained about five month for this mission. so this is not just a simple joy ride with the richest guy paying for the ticket. and the plan is some time over the weekend after about three

and a half days they will splash down in the atlantic and have quite a story to tell. back to you. steve: no kidding. so, phil, the rich guy who is paying for it, he probably gets the good chair, right? [laughter] >> well, he did get the title of commander of the mission. he is a very accomplished acrobatic pilot as well. he retires retired war fighter jets. ainsley: brian has a question for you, phil. brian: here's the question. are you ready, phil? why can't you wear pants in space? why is it always unitard? [laughter] i think they are called jump suits, brian. ainsley: i said because there is no gravity. everything would fly up. right? you got to have your uniform together. >> you can catch m&ms from across the room. it's pretty cool. steve: there you go. phil keating with a wide ranging report from the launch pad. ainsley: these are questions we ask during your report.

steve: thanks, phil. meanwhile i switching gears, a shocking new report facebook knows the app. called instagram that you all have is toxic for teen girls that they are trying to down play that ugly fact. ainsley: that's according to the "wall street journal" which claims the social media giant conducted a study into the app.'s effects and found that 32% of girls reported feeling worse about their bodies after using the app. this coming just one day after the paper reported facebook documents revealed a secret elite exempt from rules. brian: here to react biotech entrepreneur bestselling author the book he wrote is "woke inc." vivek ramaswamy joins you now. vivek, to me 32% could be social media in general what is it about instagram. >> i think it is social media in general. the article laid out specifics on instagram. the bigger point i think this is social media's big tobacco moment. i want to say that they went out of their way to create this

oversight and accountability board. they went $130 million to create it. and then they lied to that board. what does that tell us? they are taking steps to appear to take public accountability without actually wanting to take and bear that accountability. it is all a sham and a smoke screen. i will tell you i have made the argument before including in some of our own conversations they are effectively serving as an arm of the government to carry out censorship that the government couldn't carry out directly and people said in response that, yeah, they may threaten those ceos but the ceos aren't the ones personally making these calls. we know from reporting that the ceo is directly making the calls on content moderation. it really strengthens the case against these companies to recognize the threats that they pose. steve: sure, vivek, you have been on this program talking about how if they are censoring things they are censoring one side of the political spectrum while the other side gets to pretty much do whatever they want, particularly the elites as has been detailed apparently facebook elites can put anything they want to on. >> yeah, look, i will have to admit one of the things i

learned from that reporting really good report from the "wall street journal" there were content moderation errors even for left wing politicians including elizabeth warren. i that was something that i learned from that reporting that not all of this was nefarious. some it was bungled mismanagement. the part that stood out to me most, to be clear, is that mark zuckerberg and sheryl sandberg personally make the calls, especially for this elite group as to what gets taken down and what doesn't. they're the same people emailing with anthony fauci. seam people getting threatened by legislators and same people talking to the white house. strengthens the case for state action that the people at the very top who are working hand in glove with the government are also the ones who personally make these content moderation calls. i thought that was a bombshell. ainsley: do they have a list hough these elites were. >> they don't reveal it the lack of transparency is astounding. in fact, many of the people in facebook's own ranks were bothered by this. and i think that the lack of transparency really reflecting criminal law, there is a concept called mens rea refers to your

state of mind when the state of mind most. crimes committed too. the lack of transparency and intentional lying to their own bold reflects an ill state of mind. i think a quasi criminal state of mind that these companies are not only carrying out bad acts, they know that they are doing it and are looking to hide it i think that is really some of the most scary reporting of all. steve: they're making billions of dollars. brian: move congress. that's the only hope we have. congress has got to do something substantial. and they bulked both parties have to see it as a problem. let's hope they do. >> section 230 reform. absolutely. brian: what would that reform look like? vivek, thanks so much. >> thank you. brian: all right. up next, as the white house pushes vaccine mandates, hear from an infectious disease expert. is he a specialist whose health network employees natural immunity forego getting vaccinated. steve: that's a step in the right direction. plus senator rand paul will join us live after demanding answers from secretary of state tony

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dr. jerry, why is this so rare to accept natural immunity as inoculation? >> i think got look at the current evidence and the israeli study is very clear and also our own observation is clear that natural immunity can provide the kind of protection that is either equal or superior for a period of time versus two doses of the mrna vaccines which are like pfizer and that concernna. again, we are very committed though for people to get the actual vaccine and we are mandating that. so what this does is to defer individuals who wish to take some more time to make that decision based on the evidence that we have to do so. brian: dr. jahre, you are not doing them a favor. you are actually following the science. you have natural immunity. that is as good. >> that's correct. brian: as a vaccine. i thought that's a given for experts like you. why are you in a category of

your own in doing this? >> why is this a story? >> well, we are hoping that i'm not in a category or we are not in a category of our own. and we are constantly looking at the data. and we are willing to change our mind as the data necessitates. and i think that's important for all of us to do and not be wedded to a single position. i also want to make sure that people don't misconstrue this as a license to go get the natural infection versus actually getting the vaccine. we are very committed to giving the vaccine and, in fact, there is some evidence that if you get a single dose of vaccine after natural immunity your immunity would be even further enhanced. brian: so, how would you test to see if you have natural immunity? a lot of people asymptomatic, didn't even know they had it, get a test and say you had it because you have the antibodies? how do you get a good antibody test that a guy like you would look at as acceptable? >> well, our problem is that antibody tests are much more variable than a pcr test.

so what we're looking at is verification of a pcr test in order for us to be able to give that deferment. and, again, this is a deferment. it's not a permanent exemption. brian: so, you are just going to see -- you need proofed that i it. you are not going to test to see if i have the antibodies? >> that's correct. as of this point in time, unless we can get much better antibody tests that don't have a lot of differences, we feel that a prc test is a much more accurate and reliable test. brian: so maybe that's the reason why the whole country is not using natural immunity because we don't have a reliable antibody test? could that be it? >> i'm certainly that's maybe one of the reasons. and i know antibody tests are rapidly advancing like many other things in the field. so, again, we are willing to change our mind if the evidence dictates. brian: i like that. dr. jahre, thank you so much. showing flexibility. appreciate it. >> you are welcome.

brian: while following the science. let's check in with another scientist senior meteorologist janice dean for the fox weather forecast. janice: you got it, brian. deal with the potential for showers and thunderstorms across the northeast later on today and still watching the remnants of nicholas over texas and louisiana. this storm has not moved very quickly and we actually had an earlier tornado warn storm just west of bluck'sy. that's going to be another, you know problem over the next couple hours as some of these storms could turn severe with the potential for rotation. flood advisories are posted for much of central and southern, southeastern louisiana, mississippi, alabama, into florida. so heavy rainfall in addition to some of the 10 inches that we got yesterday from this storm and it's going to spread widely across portions of the gulf coast in towards florida. so that's something we're going to have to monitor, and then, of course, the showers and thunderstorms here in the northeast later on today. keep that find, brian, i will remind you by text message that the showers and thunderstorms are coming to your neighborhood later on today. brian: thanks so much, janice. keep did old school as woke

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steve: as woke education, which we've been talking about for a while takes over the classroom across the country a group of colorado parents decided to take charge of their children's education by creating their own public school. merit academy in woodland park, colorado focuses on traditional studies like math, science and patriotism and joining us right now is founding board members john and jason. guys good morning to you. >> good morning. steve: all right, so, john start at the beginning. why is it important to have a no politics school? >> it's important to listen to the community needs which we did last summer. there have been long term discussions on the community wanting more choices in education. steve: right. >> and then so you listen to the community. we surveyed the parents to see what sort of things they

wanted to have in their school, and then if you keep the focus on what's best for the kids your decisions become fairly clear on what to do. steve: sure, and jason, so you've got five core values. valor, goodness, perseverence, responsibility and friendship and that's a public school where i've never seen that kind of thing etched out on the wall. okay if you come here this is what we're going to talk about. >> yes that's correct. again, part of our genesis is born out of an examination of community need in our community where we felt like there was evidence for expanded access to options and choice and part of what came out of that was not only do we want a traditional or classical education but we want there to be a focus on character development and through discussions on character development, we arrived at placing an emphasis on those five values. steve: so john, there are people watching all across the country, and around the world right now, thinking you know, i'd like to send my kids to that school but

it's a private school, right? it's a public school, so explain how you're actually getting public money to run your school. >> so we applied as a traditional charter school and that charter was denied and we used an innovative approach with a group called "envision re imagined board of cooperation education services" here outside of colorado springs, where they contracted us and so we follow all public school requirements and rules and we work underneath the to operate our school. steve: there are start-up funds involved though that you are not getting reimbursement from the state for , so is there a way that people watch right now can help you? >> sure. our website is www.merit.academy and on there is a donate button and we're a rural community of modest means, so we appreciate alex operations of support that we receive. steve: jason, i would imagine the reaction from folks in your town is unbelievably positive.

>> that's correct. again, we sort of at our inception, this was born out of serving the community because there was call for expanded choice and we've worked tireless ly, i would say, over the past year to try to deliver on that promise of expanded access to choice. we've been off and running since august 23 and i would agree the response has been quite positive. steve: terrific. john dill and jason leslie, we thank you very much. good luck to both of you come back in six months and let us know how it goes. >> will do, thank you. steve: coming up in the next hour we'll talk to a california sheriff refusing to enforce vaccine mandates on his department, plus, rand paul, douglas murray, and outkick founder clay travis. >> ♪ and a real estate agent. after having a kid, everything that you used to do for yourself goes out the window.

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leaves california, because people can't pay the taxes. ainsley: why do you think we started with california? what happened overnight? steve: it's all about the guy who is in the governor's mansion and is going to stay there for at least another nine months. i'm looking at the la times website right now and these are the results so far. should gavin newsom be recalled? that was the whole question, and 64% said no keep him. 36% said yeah, replace him, and if recalled who would replace him? larry elder, the front runner on the other side. larry almost got 47%, so he did well even though he finished short. ainsley: people in california, they signed that petition back in started off in june of 2020 on more than a year ago because they were upset with the way he handled the covid response. steve: still are. ainsley: then in the fall he was caught at french laundry violat ing his own strict covid-19 policies, so business owners were furious because he

was shutting their businesses down. you heard from those business owners over the last year. many of them were on our show earlier and we'll play a little bit of that. brian: right, we're going to see if he is actually stronger than this or the fact he had to get $83 million raised and bring in all the heavyweights on the democratic side makes him look weaker and here is both men realizing the results are in. >> i've been all over the state of california, conservative parts of the state, progressive parts of the state, folks that i know were going to vote no and votes that i knew were going to vote yes on this recall and turned out to do just that. we may have defeated trump but trumpism is not dead in this country. >> the majority of the state voted for him two years ago and now the majority want him out and calling this a republican takeover, it is insulting to the people of california who signed that petition and who voted yes on the recall. it is insulting. but that's how they roll.

we don't roll that way. we don't finger point. we don't blame. we roll up our sleeves, we get back to it because as i said before, we may have lost the battle but we sure as hell are going to win the war. >> [applause] steve: you know what he just said there, he said he don't finger point, we don't blame. before the election results were starting to be announced there was some suggestion, by larry elder and others there could be some fraud like that, but as we just heard him say we do not finger point, we do not blame. no claims of fraud in his speech and he said let's be gracious in our defeat. ainsley: brian you said gavin newsom raised $83 million, 3 million of that was from the netflix ceo, 1 million from george soros, 750,000 from the wife of facebook ceo mark zuckerberg, also uber, walgreens and nbc universal, airbnb, at&t and anthem blue cross and planned parenthood. steve: it be a shorter list who

didn't donate. ainsley: exactly but always nice to know which businesses are supporting which candidates. brian: i think larry elder got about 15 million when it was all topped off some business owners have spoken out. you remember the lunacy of banning outdoor dining in california, outdoor dining, where they shut everybody down, you couldn't get a hair cut unless you were nancy pelosi. listen to some of the owners about these results. >> there's a huge grassroots effort. we were very under funded compared to newsom's 70 million that he got. i think about 10 million maybe was raised across and it was great to see this revolution of small business owners and dissatisfied parents and just ordinary californians who, you know, put their foot down and said we need change here. >> this is not a republican recall. this was a bipartisan recall. democrats and republicans alone are small business owners, but again, i do think this was a huge success, because a small group of people did put some

fear into the governor to the point that he actually had to buyout the vice president and the president so i'm hoping that , you know, we did push for him to have a little bit of a scare. steve: so as gavin newsom gets up today i'm sure he's going to have another statement although i doubt that he would have a victory party at one particular restaurant i'm thinking of. ainsley: that be french laundry. steve: probably. ainsley: he turned out some influential democrats that help ed him get over the finish line. kamala harris, joe biden, bernie sanders, elizabeth warren, barack obama, and he had, there were 46 gubernatorial replacement candidates running against him. 46! steve: and for larry elder to get 46% of all those people, that's a feather in his cap. ainsley: people wonder if he runs again in 2022. brian: he's got a year and a half to win over the hispanic vote, maximize the asian vote and go into the african american community where he grew up and convince them that his message is right because if the election

was in a year and a half and nothing changes it's going to be the same results really for any republican, unless republicans are going to find a way and a strategy to win over additional areas. steve: right but you know, brian brian: especially georgia. steve: we saw in that little clip we played of gavin newsom we saw the democrats play book for next round of elections and that is a choice between me, gavin newsom, and my liberal policies, or trumpism. brian: meanwhile let's talk about what happened over the last two days anthony blinken, the secretary of state accepted the invitation first in the house and then in person in the senate to go in front of the foreign relations committee and answer questions about the biggest debacle in american military history and diplomatic history and that is our exit from afghanistan. amongst the topics were who did you kill with that drone strike, number two, why did you not know that kabul was going to fall? number three, whose great idea was it to leave everything behind including our people? here are some of the questions.

>> who is responsible? who made the decisions on this was it the president of the united states? >> ultimately the president makes the decisions that's correct. >> can you pledge today that the biden administration will not release any of this money to the taliban? >> absent the taliban making good on the commitments and expectations of the international community that i've outlined previously that's correct. >> maybe we could deduct a fee for the weapons they took. >> have you submitted your resignation regarding this issue >> i've not. the lack of accountability here, the lack of accountability in this administration is shocking to me. i am responsible for the decisions i make. i'm responsible for the actions of my department. >> did the state department give the taliban a list or multiple lists of americans and /or afghans that we wanted out? >> those reports and the idea that we would do anything to endanger our citizens or anyone else at a time when we're trying to save their lives is flat out

wrong. steve: and you know, -- brian: by the way he followed up and said yeah, i did give a list. steve: for just a small number of people. he kept saying in addition to blaming trump and covering the new york post blinken, time to resign. in addition to blaming trump for everything, he's also said repeatedly, you know, nobody had any idea that things could unravel there so fast, and marco rubio, to the credit of the great state of florida said, you know, mr. secretary of state , i get the same intel. if you didn't think it could unravel that quickly you don't either know how to analyze this stuff, and you do not belong in that position, or you will fully ignored it. that's quite a choice and it looks like it's one or the other. ainsley: we've been showing that of the taliban taking overhead ing toward kabul. strategist of course all of the red arrows. ainsley: exactly senator bob en mendez a democrat from new jersey, he's slammed the

administration calling withdrawal fatally flawed and threatening to subpoena the defense secretary lloyd austin because he says he's very disappointed lloyd austin did not show up for the hearing. he did not appear and he says this is not complete without the pentagon. you have senator ron johnson who slammed the administration for calling it a complete success. senator mitt romney was wondering why the deadline wasn't moved later when we got all the americans out and all the civs out and as far as blaming trump you heard the senator who is saying whose responsible and he said you can't blame trump because trump said if they fail there be grave , grave consequences. brian: by the way the thing that doesn't pass the laugh test is when they say china and russia would love for us to be bogged down in that area. right. china prefers for us to be bogged down 100 miles from their border in an elite bagram air base. actually we had five to seven major bases as well as the secret cia sites. you think that chi china is not excited we're out of there with

our surveillance and intelligence capability not only them but iran bordering that country as well as china and russia and russia says you're not allowed to deploy any of the sands because we have additional influence in those countries and they think we'll have influence now in afghanistan which has al qaeda there which they say according to our director of national intelligence, the list of americans are there, also ted cruz put out interesting things. do you know people flying out had child bribes they just grabbed 12 and 13-year-olds and say that's my wife and flying them to qatar and maybe over to virginia? has anyone thought about checking id's to see who we were getting out in our cargo jets? ainsley: secretary blinken, as you were mentioning, he did blame president trump and also the afghan government and their military and said the administration we kept telling them to leave in march, sending 19 messages including offers to help pay for airfare. senator tom cotton was on with us earlier and said he's blaming

everyone else for the administration's failed policy. >> tony blinken has spent the last two days blaming everyone for the debacle in afghanistan except for the person who bears the blame, joe biden. i wouldn't say it's an extraordinary success when we lost 13 americans to a suicide bomber when our military had to evacuate over 100,000 people. they are doing a great job on the ground and jobs they never should have been called to do because of the disorganized and ill-planned evacuation that they had to conduct because tony blinken's state department, which let's remember, is responsible for that kind of drawdown and evacuation of civilians, had not properly planned and organized for it. steve: so, senator cotton, unlike a number of his republican colleagues, would not call for him to resign, do the right thing and resign. i was reading this morning. remember two weeks ago we were talking about how a lot of americans are trying to get people they knew out.

one of them was an afghan translator who had helped our special forces and in fact, help ed joe biden get out of the situation where a couple of choppers went down. in addition to joe biden, and senator from nebraska and also john kerry. turns out that anthony blinken was on the helicopter as well. ainsley: interesting. brian: but that guy is still in -country. steve: he is and so for the secretary of state, to say yeah, i know some of the people over there too, it was very frustrating listening to him talk yesterday given that he did not have any solid answers. brian: private groups are still trying to get people out at least someone is trying, meanwhile 13 minutes after the hour a fox news alert, the officers were called for , the officers were called for an incident involving missing 22-year-old gabby petiti to. ainsley: this is weeks before she went silent on social media and her boyfriend drove back home to florida without her.

steve: why did he leave without her? that's the question carley shimkus is here with more as the boyfriend, former fiancee , broke his silence but only through a lawyer and then said please leave us alone. reporter: that's right and gabby , she set off with her boyfriend and like you said, steve, former fiancee, brian laundry, on a cross-country road trip in early july but after 292 -year-old stopped making contact with her family in august, her mother reported her missing and now, police are revealing a concerning detail to fox news saying our officers did respond to an incident on augusr brian more gabrielle were the reporting party. officers conducted an investigation and determined that insufficient evidence existed to justify criminal charges. now, petito was last seen in wyoming grand teton national part and laundry has since driven back to florida without her and he's breaking his silence through a lawyer saying it is our hope that the search

for ms. petito is successful and reunited with her family on the advice of counsel the laundry family is remaining in the background at this juncture. now, gabby's family is demanding more information saying brian, the boyfriend, is refusing to people gabby's family where he last saw her. brian is also refusing to explain why he left gabby all alone and drove her van to florida. these are critical questions that require immediate answers. her distraught father pleading with the public to be on the lookout. >> she's something, you know, that just looks odd and it's safe to just take a look, do it. we got to find gabby and bring her home. reporter: laundry has not been accused of playing a role in pet ito's disappearance but police do want to talk to him about the case. family and friends are now heading to wyoming to retrace what they think could be gabby's last steps. guys? steve: and the reason they are

going there is because the last thing she posted on instagram was the two of them in grand tet on national park. >> a few things i haven't yet mentioned they were talking about how they were one-time engaged. gabby's mom said they broke off their engagement because they felt they were too young to get married 22 and 23 and also that white van that they were using on their cross-country road trip police in florida now have it in their custody and are looking it over for any possible evidence. steve: oh, my goodness. ainsley: they outfitted that van to make it like a bedroom so they could just travel across the country. reporter: and she was vocal on social media. she was detailing, documenting her whole cross-country road trip and so it was a public person. she wanted to be out in the public. she seemed like such a sweet gre garious girl and for her to go totally silent, her mom said that initially, thought maybe she was in a low service area that's why a few days passed she wasn't too concerned, then time continued to pass, didn't hear from gabby

and then things started to look really serious. ainsley: i can't imagine what those parents are going through and not having any information and the boyfriend's back and he's not talking? >> not talking, lawyered up and an advice of his counsel isn't saying a word as of today. steve: well thank you for updating us on what is known now it's time for some other headlines and jillian joins us. jillian: good morning let's begin with this story we continue to follow. the attorney for alex murdock speaking out after he admitted to hiring a man to kill him so his son could collect his $10 million life insurance policy. curtis edward smith was arrested on assisted suicide and fraud charges. murdock's attorneys writing, " individuals took advantage of his addiction. one of those individuals took advantage of his mental illness and agre alex's life by shooting him in the head." murdock's wife and son were found shot to death in june and no suspects have been named in their murders. >> a ray of home for minneapolis police after a judge rejects a

ballot measure meant to diminish the department, but a former partnership police commander joined fox & friends earlier saying the damage has already been done. take a listen. >> we are significantly short on staff and also, i believe, the officers do have some reluctance to put their necks on the line by doing some of those suspicious vehicle stops. reporter: the judge says the measure failed to fully inform the public of potential impact and an appeal is expected by the progressive city leadership. >> former new york governor andrew cuomo will be able to keep the $5.1 million from his memoire on his pandemic response the states ethics panel narrowly voting in favor of the democrat. governor's new appointee sided with cuomo. there is a pending investigation by state attorney general on cuomo's alleged misuse of state resources after it was reported staffers helped prepare and promote his book. >> and comedian norm macdonald

died after a long private battle with cancer. he joined fox & friends a few years ago to discuss how he land ed his dream gig on saturday night live, watch. >> i was given the job over the phone. i was working on the roseanne program so i went to roseanne and said please let me leave so i can be on saturday night live and she let me. reporter: several comedians paying tribute. steve martin tweeting, "we loved him one of a kind." he was one of our most precious gems, an honest and courageous comedy genius, i love him. macdonald was 61 years old. brian: i don't know anyone that knew he was sick ordealing with cancer for 10 years. ainsley: did you read jim carry 's tweet, he's been dealing with this battle for 10 years. steve: quietly. all right, jillian thank you very much. ainsley: we showed you a part of what senator rand paul had to say at yesterday's hearing on

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steve: welcome back. you know, we're about two blocks from broadway, and last night, broadway reopened. everybody in the hall though had to prove that they had been vaccinated because new york city got these vaccine mandates where a lot of businesses, a lot of organizations, schools as well, everybody has got to either have a mask or be tested or have a

vaccine card. ainsley: we all walk around with our cards. well there is the hospital system, st. lukes and lehi valley health network and they say if you had covid you have immunity so therefore you don't have to get vaccinated up for 12 months. they say the policy is based on science and it's based on guidance from infectious disease experts at their hospital system brian: they got to assume if you had it you have the antibod ies so they will give you a mulligan and they want to have mandates but if you have natural immunity and going by the israeli study that says natural immunity is as good if not better than anything you get from a vaccine that could last longer according to israel studies because we don't want to invest for some reason in our own people and studies, so this dr. jeffrey jherri said this about recognizing natural immunity, by going through a covid test, not a antibody test. listen. >> our own observation is clear that natural immunity can provide the kind of protection

that is either equal or superior for a period of time versus two doses of the mrna vaccines which are like pfizer and moderna. again, we are very committed though for people to get the actual vaccine and we are mandating that. so what this does is to defer individuals who wish to take some more time to make that decision based on the evidence that we have, to do so. we are constantly looking at the data, and we're willing to change our mind as the data necessitates and i think that's important for all of us to do and not be wedded to a single position. steve: yeah, anthony fauci was asked over the weekend about you know, you're talking about vaccines everybody has got to get the shot but what about people who have got natural immunity from actually been exposed to and contracting the disease of covid and they say i really don't know about that so you've got to figure that the government is going to say that's kind of an outlier, what are they going to say? the hospital chain doesn't understand human health? because obviously, they do.

it's the beginning of a wave. brian: we'll see because this is the key. they don't have an antibody test , they really trust so really, so you're going to go just prove okay i had it therefore i have the antibodies. okay, fine. why would anthony fauci not welcome, instead of doing 20 appearances a day, put your lab coat on and figure out an answer to that question, because it could mean instead of 75% get a single shot eligible for the shot in america, it could be around 90 where you consider how many pested toast and may have been asymptomatic along the way. ainsley: if you're vaccinated and you had it you're pretty protected. brian: right right it's not ethical if you had it to get a vaccine too. ainsley: is it a blood test to tell if you had the antibodies? he said no just take a covid test. steve: anyway we'll let you know if this is the beginning of something big all across the country but according to tony fauci probably not. meanwhile secretary of state anthony blinken got grilled

yesterday by senators about reports of a u.s. drone strike taking out an innocent bystander and his family. >> the biden administration drone was he an aid worker or an isis-k operative? >> i don't know because we're reviewing it. >> well you'd think you'd kind of know before you off somebody with a predator drone. ainsley: senator rand paul is going to join us next on that and new reports that general mark milley was calling china sec secretively behind trump's back. brian: fantastic. fifty-percent of young americans do not consider themselves, patriots. thirty-seven percent of young americans believe

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>> so you don't know or won't tell us? >> i don't know, because we're reviewing it. >> well see you'd think you'd kind of know before you off somebody with a predator drone whether he's an aid worker or he's an isis-k. ainsley: joining us now with more from the heated exchange, senate foreign relations committee member rand paul. good morning to you. >> good morning. thanks for having me. ainsley: we saw you questioning him about that. what do you know? do you think they do know it's an aid worker he's just not able to tell you? >> [laughter] well here is the interesting thing. when things are classified, sometimes they do and sometimes they don't, when they thought they had killed a high ranking operative they were very free with the information that they got their target, but now that it looks like it may not have been their target, now it's classified and they can't tell us, but it was kind of unclear from his testimony whether he doesn't know who they killed or won't tell. i got the feeling that they don't know, and that they are very worried that they did the wrong person and a bunch of civilians and for years i've

said that, you know, with the drone target, i'm not against killing a bin laden with a drone but i am against that we killed the wrong people because that had the hatred that doesn't go away for generations. brian: what did you learn yesterday? you watched the house, you went to school on that three minutes not much was done and it's trump 's fault. what did you takeaway from this? i thought marco rubio really zoned in. he said there's no way you could not have known that kabul was going to fall. you guys had the same intelligence as they had, and you could put that together. >> yeah, i think they had to know everybody was saying it. people were on the senate floor trying to evacuate people three months before this. they were trying to evacuate people in the spring knowing it was going to fall but here is my point. even if they were surprised by the quick takeover, once bagram air force base was relinquished and they took control of it, we should have said look, in about three minutes to vacate our planes our

helicopters, we're bombing bag ram, and we should have demolished it on the way out. i still would have left but demolished bagram on the way out this is also my question about the drone attack. the drone attack is a pin price index to show that we try to save face or that we still have some strings. in the end it's going to show weakness because we shot the wrong person with a drone, but really, had we destroyed the equipment on the way out that would have been something. $80 billion worth of equipment, and my point is, they are already thinking about giving the taliban money. there's $10 billion out there, from the previous afghan government, and basically, blinken -- brian: that's not a good sound. steve: i think we heard the sound of skype going away. ainsley: well the taliban does want us to give them aid. they also are telling us to have a heart for them. brian: yeah, they say they thank the world for $1.2 billion , but they say have a heart, america. have a big heart, because you're a big country. they also pointed out that we let a lot of your people go, except for that one explosion by

the gate, that really went well. so we need some aid money, and i don't think that tony blinken said no to when he was asked by senator rand paul. are you going to give it to him? the answer is really yes, we're giving it to them unless they break their word on something, one of which they did. they have allowed al qaeda to be part of their cabinet and we have the dni come out and said within a year and a half they will be capable of attacking us here at home. ainsley: i think we have the senator back with us. steve: stop hanging up on us, okay? >> [laughter] ainsley: senator how do you explain it? i'm sorry go ahead. >> by my calculations if they stole $80 billion worth of equipment, the $10 billion they would still owe us 70 billion more, so they would still owe us money, not us owe them money, so no, i wouldn't give them a penny even the money being given in foreign aid, the taliban has a history of taking it and giving it to the party members and their supporter and depriving the people or people that don't support government so i wouldn't give them that either right now

it's an insult to the 13 soldiers who just died to immediately be giving them money ainsley: or the people who died in 9/11. steve: nobody has spoken more about drones than you have, senator. we all remember your epic filibuster on the floor of the senate talking about that, that went on for hours, and you brought it up again yesterday, so tony blinken was asked yesterday whether he would resign, he said absolutely not. now, people are saying maybe the chairman of the joint chief of staff, general mark milley needs to go, because it looks like, according to the new bob woodward book, that apparently, the joint chief chairman called up a couple of times, once before the election, once after january 6 and talked to his chinese counterpart and said hey , don't worry about us, we'll take care of things and we're not going to bomb you. what do you make of the fact that general milley called up china and said don't worry about

this president. >> if we investigated immediately today, he should be questioned under oath if not with a polygraph test whether it happened and if it happened he should be immediately relieved of his duties and court martial ed. you have to find out if it's true, this is rumor and propaganda perhaps, but if it is true, absolutely immediately needs to be removed. we have elections. we can't have generals over turning elections. we have always criticized in authoritarian regimes where the military takes over. this is very very dangerous, and if this happened, milley needs to be needly removed of his command. ainsley: and it alleged that he said china, if we attack you, i'll give you a warning. i'll give you a heads up, so that you can be ready. brian: what a great general. ainsley: can we get transcripts of these conversations? >> well, and here's the thing is it actually makes war more likely. if you're calling up our adversaries and saying we think the president is such a loose

canon, that actually puts them on red alert and actually if there happens to be, which there are instances where there are false warnings of attacks and we have to talk to each other, if we have a general saying our president is liable to unleash nuclear weapons on you, or attack on you that makes any kind of accidental war even more likely by him bringing up the game. it's a terrible thing, very dangerous but just by defying the chain of command it gets outside of what we have as a constitutional republic. brian: he said after the last book came out, i don't really comment on anybody's books that's when he was evidently said it's a moment and that the president trump at the time has the classic authoritarian leader, he has nothing to lose. he said i'm not going to comment on that. he can't not comment on this. he should be calling a separate press conference today, to confirm or deny it. going along business as usual, to me, does not suffice.

>> should be immediately ordered into a room for an interview, not just a press interview, for an interview, with polygraph , which we do often for our intelligence and he needs to be asked, did you call the chinese government in defiance to your command? did you warn them or insinuate to them that the president might attack them? that the incredibly dangerous to the country and to the world. brian: absolutely, senator rand paul, thank you. >> thank you. brian: good questions yesterday california governor gavin newsom painting the recall results not only as a win for him, but for also for science as he pushes vaccine mandates. scientists celebrate. up next we'll talk to a sheriff from the state who says he'll never enforce vaccination requirements on his deputies. >> ♪

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ainsley: the votes are in california governor gavin newsom will remain in office after winning the state election. newsom casting it as a victory for both him and science. >> i want to focus on what we said yes to, as a state and yes to science, and we said yes to vaccines, we said yes to ending this pandemic. ainsley: newsom was one of the first governors to issue vaccine mandates for state workers but one california sheriff is refusing to enforce any such policy in his department. riverside county sheriff chad bi anco joins us now. good morning to you. >> good morning. ainsley: thank you for coming on i wanted you to say this is what the mandate is or these are what the requirements are but i won't make my employees be the vaccine.

>> there's a lot of things that led me to say that. just the last segment that you just posted, was the science, that word is bothering me tremendously every time i hear it because it's hand picking which scientist they want to believe and let's disregard the rest of science that says that it's not a good idea to force vaccinations on everyone, so when it comes to that, especially in our department, we know, we have a large department , we know that there are a lot of people that have had covid. we know the science tells us that we're better off than the ones that are getting the vaccine, but yet, that part of science is disregarded and we're just forcing a vaccine on someone that really does have risks whether anyone wants to admit it or not on another side , it has serious risks and some people are not willing to take that risk. ainsley: interesting that you talk about the science, because st. lukes and lehigh valley health networks are telling everyone that works in their hospital network if you have already had covid you don't have to get vaccinated.

the policy is based on science. there are some doctors that disagree but that's their policy how many employees do you have? >> we have roughly 4,000. ainsley: how many do you estimate are vaccinated? >> we have to guess we don't know exact but we're guessing about 60% are vaccinated. ainsley: do you have some deput ies that are coming up to you saying look, sheriff we appreciate this. i didn't want to get the vaccine >> yes that other 40%. you know, we've been making it readily available to everyone and that's another thing that goes a little bit against the narrative, especially with me, is that i'm anti-vaccine. i'm not. i want everybody that wants the vaccine to get the vaccine and so we've had the opportunity for months and months to get our personnel vaccinated and this 40 % are the ones that either medical or their personal beliefs, religious beliefs whatever the case maybe they don't want this vaccine and they aren't going to take it, and those are the ones that are coming to me even the ones that are vaccinated are thanks me for sticking up for their partners that don't believe it or don't want it.

ainsley: are you worried about punishment or fines? >> no. i'm sure we'll be threatened with that. i mean, that's the nature of government. our governor, especially he's already done that with us, with covid so i'm sure they are going to do that. i'm sure they are going to try and use osha for businesses and for the government, but you know , i just don't believe that this federal mandate has any teeth in my county. we do have a state pan date from our governor that for all of connections personnel and for medical personnel that should be vaccinated and if you don't you have to weekly test and we're complying with that. we're doing everything we can to keep our employees, our inmates, and our residents safe, but it's up to you to keep yourself safe also and, you know, there's a lot to be said for science that you don't need this vaccine to make it through this. ainsley: and personal choice. sheriff thank you for everything that you do. >> you're welcome thank you very much. ainsley: let's check in with our senior meteorologist janice dean for our fox weather forecast.

how's it feel out there? >> hi, good morning, ainsley we have the jack hammers going it's a beautiful day in new york city i want to talk about the wreck remnants of nicholas. that area of low pressure has stuck around texas and louisiana and it's going to remain there for the next 24 hours, the potential for showers and thunderstorms in the forecast if you could take a look at weather 8 i know it's there. there it is. six to eight inches of rain already on the ground and you can see it's not moving very quickly over the next 12-24 hours so that's going to produce more heavy rainfall and flash flooding not only for louisiana which has been hard hit by ida a couple of weeks ago, but for mississippi, alabama, georgia, and florida. so also, we're into peak season, my friends. we're watching an area of low pressure off the coast of africa , as well as one just north of the bahamas that might get the name odette. we will keep you posted, as the jack hammers continue. ainsley? ainsley: people are going to the bahammas this weekend, that's steve. steve: jack hammer. ainsley: i was going to say if

people are going to the bahamas this weekend do they have to worry about it? >> there's showers and thunderstorms we'll keep you posted. the nba reportedly won't require players to get vaccinated but referees and some staffers might still face the mandate. clay travis reacts to the league 's covid guam plan but let's check in with dana perino. dana: look we coordinated looks very good, thank ainsley. explosive claims calls for general mark milley to resign. why, well we'll tell you what we just heard. seeking justice and answers on capitol hill, and the first woman to raise concern joins us live and the california recall goes gavin newsom's way we'll have josh holmes on the political fallout and bill is on the board over there and you won't believe what he's got we'll see you at 9:00. find your rhythm. your happy place. find your breaking point. then break it. every emergen-c gives you a potent blend of nutrients

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steve: welcome back. we're back to an exclusive look inside shaquille o'neal's $16 million mansion that could be yours. that's right. it's for sale. ashley webster from our sister network fox business joins us live from the estate in windemer e, florida which, ashley , i think is near orlando, right? ashley: it is about 30 minutes away, it's a very exclusive

neighborhood as you'd expect, so what do you get for 16 million? well for one, follow me. good morning, benjamin. thank you very much, your own indoor 6,000 square feet basketball court. how about this? even has bleachers that can seat up to 100 people. no one would want to watch me play basketball, i'll tell you, but yes, $16.5 million let's look at these numbers, shaq bought this mansion it's 31,000 square feet, by the way, back in 1993 just under 4 million. he listed it for 28 million back in 2018 but now, it's down to 16.5 million but you do get 31,000 square feet, 12 bedrooms, 11 baths, four half baths, a 95-foot long swimming pool, a 17 car garage. that's what you'd expect from a multi millionaire. by the way shaq owned this for somewhat 28 years now so he thinks it's time to move on. he has multiple properties but before we leave you, benjamin if

you could pass me the ball, i'm going to prove to you that i taught shaq everything he knows about free throws. here we go, embarrassing time. all right, well there you have it. shaquille o'neal taught him everything i now and there is the proof in the pudding. steve: at least you could buy the place get out your checkbook , ashley. ashley: [laughter] you got it. steve: they take bad checks all the time probably. by the way, folks, fox business prime is going to feature more real estate stories each tuesday , starting at 8:00 p.m. eastern, with american dream home hosted by cheryl casone and this is just part of the all new fox business prime week nights beginning monday on fox business brian: another reason to watch fox business. meanwhile, let's talk about this speaking of basketball the nba reportedly will not require players to get vaccinated for covid-19 in order to play

this season. our next guest is hailing the player's union for the move. outkick founder clay travis joins us now. also got a radio show and travel s the country he's never home. clay, 85% of the players are vaccinated. is that part of the reason why they aren't going to mandate it? >> no i think the reason, brian , thank you guys for having me on, is because for the nba player's association's credit they are standing up for the rights of their individual athletes about whether or not they should have to be vaccinated for covid, and look i'm going to continue to ba ng this drum and i heard you talking about it earlier, natural immunity should matter here and should be a part of our discussion. we don't know what percentage of that 15% might have already had covid and not want to get vaccinated as a result there as well but this is what the player's association should do. it should stand up for the rights of a minority of their overall members and support their rights here and look, to my knowledge, the nba has never required any vaccine before and so while referees and

other team officials are going to be required to get the vaccine, and maybe some of these arenas are going to create larger issues, i support and stedfastly give credit to the union for standing up here. brian: clay how do you feel about the fact that in the nfl if you have too many players test positive they aren't vaccinated they could lose the game, forfeit the game, you think that should be part of it? >> no. i don't think so. i don't think you should distinguish between why someone gets covid in my opinion, because look right now what's going on with the new orleans saintses. i believe they have eight different coaches and officials that are associated with that team, team employees, who have all tested positive and are 100% vaccinated. we're going to have a lot of breakthrough cases during the nfl season. again, i would go back to natural immunity mattering here in a big way. the study out of israel said natural immunity 27 times more protective than the vaccinated immunity be. i don't think you should have that policy in place in the nfl at all and i think it's going to be a mess for the league this season. brian: catch outkicks college

football bus tour across the biggest games in the south through september 18. clay where are you going to be? >> alabama, florida, can't wait to be down in gainsville, florida big game going on this weekend. we'll be down there tailgating people if they are alabama or florida fans at that game come find us while be live on the big noon kickoff at 10 a.m. eastern from gainsville, florida this weekend. brian: 10 seconds what's clicking on out kick? >> tons of people right now, reading about all these requirements, buffalo bills requiring a covid vaccine in order to get into their games now, first nfl team to require the vaccine itself. brian: wow i thought the raider s might be doing that too. we'll look forward to your radio show and see you over the weekend he works seven days a week and puts in his time sheet is really enormous how much money you get paid by the hour clay thanks so much. >> [laughter] appreciate it thank you. brian: okay. so that's our show. ainsley: what about the president? brian: the president freedom fighter tour is now out been released partially so these are

the places i'll be charleston, west virginia, november 7, december 3 florida, cheerwater on december 4, orlando, florida november 21, and abraham lincoln , frederick douglas that comes out in november. ainsley: also as bury park is on there too. brian: that's in may with dana perino. ainsley: have a good day we'll see you tomorrow.