a fair share. thank you very much. fox business that you don't get. we crunch the numbers and, what if you took all that money from the top 1% twixt all of it got 100%. that would not be a fair share. it would not pay for this. it would not come close to paying for all of this. i'm throwing it out there. ♪ ♪ >> hello, everyone, i am dana perino. 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> president biden: we are facing a lot of pushback, especially from some of the republican governors. proposed requirement for covid vaccines and the governor of that state calls it "each radical move." that is the worst kind of politics. it is putting the lives of

citizens of their states especially children, at risk. >> dana: president biden ramping up is a tactic public majority of americans disapprove of the president's plan to force a shot on over 100 american workers by a margin of 51 to 40%. printed by did not the only ones wrapping up his rhetoric. seen and's don lemon taking his insults to a whole new level. >> i think we have to stop calling people when it comes to this and that vaccine. you can't shame them. you can't call them stupid. yes, they are. the people who ate and abetted trump are stupid because they believed his big lie. the people who are not getting vaccines, who are believing the lies on the internet instead of science, and -- or leave them behind. because they are keeping the majority of americans behind. >> leave them behind where?

republican voters who are not vaccinated or not the only ones who are -- that is what is so frustrating. >> i think it is frustrating because don lemon is extremely stupid. right? and he thinks that by calling other people stupid, what he have the balls to 24% of black stupid? you think the everybody is this red hat wearing group of people who live in the sticks. when the fact there is a whole bunch of categories of people who are not vaccinated. one of them are people that are young and very sick -- i know a few of those people but you have women who are either pregnant or want to get pregnant like you have blacks who are superstitious of medical intervention from depth government. you have people that are immunocompetent -- immunocompromised. you would find that it is not just a bunch of stupid people.

i think there's a reason why this is happening. there is a sensible alternative which is letting people get vaccinated at the pasty decide to without believing them. a book which is kind of what is happening. if people had the conversation i talked about getting the vaccine with people who have not. but i don't -- i respect them. and i listen to put reasons. a lot of their reasons do make sense. if they are worried about childbearing, that is fine. they chose this easy to -- target because it allows them to create another oppositional kind of thing for a cable news and for joe biden so that you will not look at the other problem. if -- what did i used to say? america fights among themselves, the people empower escape our collective graphic if we were unified in anything. that we can focus on crime, homelessness, drug addiction,

the border, afghanistan. but as long as joe biden pits us against each other, that will distract them and as long as union has this kind of artificial battled to contend with, they might survive another here. they are bleeding viewers because they don't have teeth us versus them dichotomy anymore. trump is not there. they can't do right versus left because a lot of people on the left or leaving the left. what they are printed do is facts versus anti-vax. -- vax versus anti-vax. it is to maintain a certain amount of power and keep the least busy. >> away they are saying -- i was nodding my head. >> i thought you were flirting. >> here's the thing. here's the thing. no. [laughter] >> with him? >> untangled the.

[. >> what they say,. [he is turning the unvaccinated to republicans. he is continuing into. it is the folks more people versus the from people. and that is not the case. because in some of the studies that they say it is that most people who are resistant to getting the vaccine. in new york city, it is the -- community that is resistant to getting the vaccine. if anybody is to be here, it is don lemon and maybe he opted to keep his mask chat if he does not know what he is talking about. >> is an expert in community. >> i know about the black community hesitation. we are talking in in-group room about all of this. green. but not tell us about that minority communities. >> there's some interesting data coming out by a group that is a

fracking poll amongst african-americans. i'm looking forward to what their data says about black folks' added towards towards the vaccine. i am here for that mandates. i don't think you can have a mandate and then shame folks who don't get the vaccine. i think you have to take that approach that doctors take and you say you are unvaccinated. they tweak it was no judgment and they begin the education process. what questions do you have? what are your apprehensions? how can i help answer your question? how can i sooth your apprehension? how can i deal with your fears? and begin to have this conversation. and the beginning of the pandemic took on instagram, i had a barajas on and i asked her questions about the pandemic. and i'm willing to do it again for those folks who have questions about the vaccine. and just so we can -- i'm happy to, because i think it is but educators. >> you are the real hero.

>> right? i don't want to see another american died from this vaccine. die from this pandemic. i want america to beat this pandemic. i want the globe to beat this pandemic. because there are so many countries that are waiting in line to get the vaccine, we have the vaccine, distant treatment leak available. the only way we can beat it is by educating post in getting folks -- and we need to educate people. >> can i mentioned one thing and we will get your comments? so there's 24 general step -- they are going to so that federal government. a saint of the vaccines have protected millions of americans and there are others who can benefit. but convincing those who are hesitant to do so would require into allowed room for discussion and disagreement instead. you have offered the american people, flimsy legal argument, contradictory statements and threatening directives. it is almost as if your goal is to took so deficient distress rather than promote unity and

the public health. we will see where that los it goes. >> the democrats with don't want to have the conversation if you have a conversation for even ask a question, on social media get they don't want that. they want brute force because that is their agenda. fiber president, this is how i would handle it. i would think the american people thought my 50 state victory. and then i would focus less on the untaxed -- unvaxxed. i would say, you are always teasing the fountain of youth. you get a shot, you are going to live longer protect his effect. i would say, hegseth we are living normally. we are doing our thing over here. come join us. that is the way to do it instead of sending and calling people stupid i would never call people stupid in this country. i would just quizzed them on civics. movie clips. [laughter] that is how i would handle it.

to your point, we are making a lot of progress. 76% of the american people have gotten at least one shot. in december, we were talking 50% -- we are at 76%. we should be actually kind of giving ourselves a pat on the back and then a job in the arm, s have paid enough. >> i wondered what is enough? 80% enough? 90% enough? i mean, are they going to continue this? more variants are going to be coming in. >> it should be about, we got therapeutics. we got -- and that is life. >> how do you deal with the misinformation like the falls an

adult by nikki ménage that impacted the global. they stopped what they were doing to correct fatal misinformation. >> what does -- did nicki minaj say? she brought up her cousin's friend toughest anatomy that swells up due to it. it brings up the good point about assessing just any kind of antidotal -- you need a control group. so let's see you get the job. 10 million people get the job in the next day, 25 people are getting in car accidents. is that the correlation or causation? you have to look and see, find another group of 10 million and seek with the rate of car accidents are among them but you might find people that -- fewer car accidents. the idea that i talked to a lot of people that self-report symptoms and you go, you have to understand that those symptoms may have been the contract you have or not. you have to compare into a control group of similar types. you also have to look at,

mobility. and the news never tells you the equipment. we have to ask yourself, why are they so quick to ship the unvaxxed but when you are super fit, and you are unvaxxed get some help you are shame? if somebody is obese, you better not say anything. >> to be here to reference nicki minaj, i'm not a doctor. if that were -- [overlapping speakers] >> i'm sitting next to somebody. >> but if somebody walks into a doctor's office and says, here are my symptoms and i took the covid vaccine, -- >> that is exactly what would happen. >> okay. >> clearly he was at a bachelor party. [laughter] >> republicans demand an answer on general mark milley's call with china.

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>> fox news alert. the durham investigation has an addendum -- and the -- indictment. charged with lying to the fbi. that is go to david frost what the breaking news. >> this attorney's name is michael sussman. he is a well-known five -- cyber security attorney. he was just contented a couple of hours ago by a federal grand jury as you mentioned the front lines to the fbi and essentially what happened, september 19th, 2015, almost five years ago to the day, mr. sussman met with

the fbi general counsel to meet with him and allege that then-candidate donald trump had connections to russia. negative connections to russia. what mr. sussman did not disclose according to the special counsel john durham is that not only did he work for the dnc in 2016. he did some work for depth hillary clinton campaign. that is the crux of this story. he makes his first appearance before a federal judge tomorrow but this is the second indictment in the john durham special counsel investigation. back to you. >> thanks, david. and we will keep you updated on that story. intent to more follow-up for the biden administration. after saying he has total confidence on general mark milley. he remembered that new book where he called china to undermine trump? no one is denying that the calls took place. the key now is to find a book was and republican lawmakers are demanding answers. >> add the video difficult have to call with the chinese that there's nothing wrong with that. for you not to tell the

president that you had to call with the chinese and from him not to be a work at that is the problem. it is because you want him to be all informed and at his best to proceed. you don't have the back of the chinese. you have the back of your president. >> if, in fact, that is true, those would be counts of insubordination and doug appropriate action would be court-martialed procedural. >> said, if we are going to do something, we are going to give you a heads up? that is so unconstitutional, so wrong. >> john kennedy suggesting biden may scapegoat millie to distract from his afghanistan failure. >> i know president biden has said he stands behind general milley. and maybe that is true in the short tempered i'm going to give you even odds that eventually the white house throws him under the bus. because the white house desperately needs someone besides the president on which

to blame. a the standing incompetence in afghanistan. >> let's hear prediction. does millie state on this or does he get canned? >> i don't have the slightest idea. but i can't tell you is this. if things, really bad if the coronavirus, if they can't get more people vaccinated, the economy is going to -- can i see it? and afghanistan is a mess. leaving americans behind. inflation is a mess. i mean, somebody has to there. if anyone does, he goes. that i would not be sorry to hear him going because apparently there's only two people who can give him permission to call his chinese counterpart, assuming that he said what woodward is a saying he said and that is the president or the acting secretary of defense which was this guy, miller. and they said, we did not give him permission to do that but it is about civilian control but i

don't like him responding to nancy pelosi's calls. he gets his wife in in a tizzy and he decides he is going to win to everyone in nuclear weapons issue and he is going to tell them to come to me first? since when do they come to you first? you go to the present first. >> nancy pelosi is not the chain of command. how did that happen? >> i can't speak to that. >> that is the topic. >> the topic is whether or not -- >> i know. that is the part of the story. speak to richard. the floor is yours. >> but i think we should work on getting all the facts before we jump to conclusions. number one -- >> why would we do that? >> because we are the news. but number one, any time a book is releasing a book, what they do is they find the most salacious lines of the book and the police to apps of people like us can chew over them and

because our politics have become so absolutism, people like the politicians that we saw that there up most of them will likely be -- >> millie -- he did not deny it. >> he is doing his job. he is not going to get in that leads on this. so what you have is -- expected to advise the president. >> what you have here is a line released from the book that was clearly sensationalized and you have actual journalists supporting it like our very own jennifer griffin. this call did not happen in secret. the first call that happened with the chinese general and with milley involved was a call that was initiated by the defense secretary expert. before we get into this, and we also had every old jack kane who talked about this and said, before we jumped at this can all of the facts and let's not call for transcripts are because many times, when these calls happen, they have been in secret because they could be talking about a lot of things.

and we destroyed back channels that we have between us and other foreign governments. foreign governments that we have that relationships with because we want to be able -- >> the rick -- ukraine phone calls. that is the pentagon's opinion. dana do you think woodward and costa reported this? that maybe they got a leak of the transcripts? do you think someone told them who was on the call exactly what happened? it is not like they would make something like this up. >> okay. well, all right well, i don't know if there's a transcript. i don't even know, if there are transcript. or at least there might be transcripts. i don't know how that works. i would doubt that the got a transcript. i would imagine, this is a description of what was happening in general. the accusation is quite general. could we get the facts to find out what was said and what was the chain of command? did the deputy note?

is that good enough? i don't know. he would have to answer that is will. i wonder about this because costa and woodward are not just any old authors. nothing in the books that we write exactly -- actually breaking news. these two are -- book especially, costa. he is a reporter for the washington post. general milley is the -- in the office of the joint chiefs. he has been advising the president as we speak. so if this guy is usurping the commander-in-chief, that is big news. and that should not be held to have a one line leak to sell a bunch of books to find out next week that actually was all wants and context does not allow us to tremendous guy's life? so i'm skeptical about it. i'm not saying it did not happen.

i just don't know. and i'm curious about how comfortable the authors are that this is happening. >> and if you are joe biden, you can't trust this guy. >> i don't know if he knows what is going on. i do enjoy the cognitive dissonance and people who can easily reverse this. say the general is going around joe biden. >> because he believes that that mental decline has become so serious that we need to do something. the people that would be defending milley would be condemning milley. you have to step back and do kind of a comparison. we have -- the phone calls. we already had two phone calls under joe biden. the god the calls with the afghan president to instruct him to live. do we know what was on behalf of our country? or was it on the behalf of something else? >> not perfect phone calls. >> milley is a symptom of the emotional spasm that went on from 2016 to 2020. it was not the americans.

it was the media, the people in power, that caused them to overlook a virus that was spreading out of china. a concerted effort to disqualify law enforcement. all because they hated this guy who had been tweets and made mean jokes who is an outsider calling bs on all of these people. right? this is about getting rid of the most dangerous president in world history, the one who removed the threat of north korea from the table, ushered in peace from the middle east, who helped operation warp speed begin and did not take a paycheck pickup truck and yet -- paycheck. and yet adults like milley have alluded those deluded themselves into -- it is about that -- >> how do you know that? >> it is part of the story. china called and said -- >> concerned about trump. >> screw. >> there were no facts with

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>> another self-created crisis gets worse for president biden. drone footage capturing thousands of migrants. new border patrol numbers says there were more migrant encounters in august. new images showed more kids at the border. agents rescued eight others who were left with a note saying they are siblings. you know this happened trumka the may get would be calling them trump's children.

>> the silence from a lot of the media is really disturbing but how could it be that this is no biden's for risk crisis? you have afghanistan, covert inflation and then 200,000 people in august of them coming across the border. the border patrol is completely overwhelmed and maybe the national focus is not on this issue but i will tell you where it is. and the border counties of texas, that are going to be some really tough -- anyone who is a democrat there. henry has been trying to reach -- alarm on this. about that october 2022 midterm and the other person would be mark kelly, the senator from arizona. think about how small the margins are in the senate. mark kelly has to run for reelection. this is an issue for him. >> jessica that women there might like makes a good point. we are dealing with non-border privilege.

other states benefit from the for cheap labor but they don't have to deal with being overwhelmed at the border because that is not where they live. >> they are not coming to a manhattan or washington or georgetown or any of those places. and if they are to takes them a well and who knows what happened? the reason demeter has not been covering this is because biden hit the kids but he shipped them off to different locations. when there are kids, then it is a humanitarian crisis. then people feel bad for the kids. of course we feel bad. it is not gio's baltic but when it is just meant coming across it is -- and that vast majority of men crossing, they don't want to show that. that his initial security crisis. economic crisis. real border crisis that lands on joe's play. and joe has lost track of the kids. he lost track of half of the kids. how do you do that? you just let them go? right under joe papa's nose. next time joe says, i care about the children, it is a live.

he does not care about workers either. they still jobs. they depress the wages and he is not even sending any of them back. we just got to raw data. 80%, to the state and then if you get to hundred thousand, richard richard. in a month. richard -- >> what do you think my name? 60,000 our getaways. you don't even see them. you try to turn texas blueprint if you are democrats running for president, you start off with texas and california, and new york. that is over 100 electoral college votes there in your pocket. >> it diverse in terms of what is happening. we just talked about covid. and the covid mandate. the democrats absolutely refused that mandate vaccines for deep illegals. you call them whatever you want. i called them illegals. they can actually say no is a border patrol presences, i

wanted to go over there and get effects into have the right to say no. but we don't have the right to say no. we have to get faxed. and then how many of them for the past six months or five months ago, and they were coming across and just shipping them out but these unaccompanied kids, 18,000 of them, who is getting them? no one knows. people at the border are telling me that ngos are showing up and just giving these kids -- this is child trafficking. >> carley: trafficking and child labor trafficking. but i think how that amendment was -- because they wanted to -- the chinese vaccine and i think -- >> really? we are seeing you have to take that chinese vaccine and not the american vaccine? i don't believe that. i don't believe that. i don't believe that. >> you said that last uncut richard. do you remember that? >> we will give you a different

vaccine. >> let me make my point. because i think you will find some agreement. i think the ig report that came out today says that we are doing a terrible job on the border. i think what has needs to be more focused on how we deal with the border. i think that congress, both democrats and republicans need to make the white house on they should be working on the border. but i wrote about this in forbes. there are asylum seekers who would qualify for express them if they got a chance to get in front of a judge but they can't because they are clogged because the courts are running on 1980s laws but congress refuses to get to work. >> , controls congress? >> both democrats and republicans. >> , controls the white house. >> they have played a political football with immigration.

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>> president biden is making a lot of noise on climate change while pushing trillions and spending. >> president biden: code red out there in the nation. we can't wait to. >> -- act. make some significant change. save a generation. it is not a joke. >> but that kind of redrick terry be scaring a generation. 56 of young people think humanity is doomed paper. ndc climate-related anxiety is impacting their lives. okay. i will go to you, jessie. are incredible numbers. 92% of that young people in the philippines think to future is frightening. 56% in finland think it is frightening. the americans are just as bad. >> if i lived in the philippines, i would be frightening frighten, too.

>> is that your final answer? >> just kidding. i love the country. but dana brought it up. there's blue and red flashing lights everywhere and joe is like, now, guys, look over here at the sky. and when he says, i'm not joking, folks. this is not hyperbole. it is hyperbole. he does not what believe -- not believe what is on his own teleprompter. they stole that from a un report. they asked the un reporters, is that true? they said now, we have plenty of time. we are fine. we adapt. >> richard condon do you think going through $.5 trillion that this is is going to solve the anxiety of the in people? >> mike: as a millennial. >> i hate when you say that. >> because you are not one?

it is okay. for a second i think -- >> stop bragging about it. if we were all young ones, you're going to get old and diecut richard. >> be quiet. go ahead, richard. >> richard: that is okay. you got to realize the thermostat. and remember the storm that -- of that last perkins to hit united states, even though it was a strong storm when it hit new orleans and louisiana, traveled overland. records unlike super storm sandy. hurricane force impact. it tells you the idea that climate change is happening is real. >> we just had a discussion about an adorable. you have to look at the research. if you look at the -- >> yeah, we can. you can compare identify katrina -- ida to katrina.

>> there's no relation. there are other correlations. but there is not one there. >> did you know that researchers are training cows in order to fight climate change? i felt to -- they did not want cows because of the pulled from. it turns out the ammonia in cow you're urine -- >> i think -- katie pavlich was doing these moo loos. the hyperbolic nature of this climate change discussion means that people just stop listening. all the answers that you are at fault and there's nothing we can do about it and even if you do, all of these things, does not

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>> prince harry and meghan markle are getting slammed online after time magazine named them icons. the new york post opinion piece called them time's most insufferable.

[laughter] dana, what is your take? >> dana: they were a field world couple. and then they came to america and have field to do what they wanted to do, which is avoid publicity. the world is ridiculing them. but they can't get enough. they are addicted to put celebrity. >> and money. everything they do is about money, right from the get-go. when they start to getting into some of the parties with disney at making sure she got that voice overs. everybody loved the idea of this happening, of them getting married and all this uncooked harry turned into a nothing and she was in charge. but then went she said, got married before the wedding, so that wedding did not matter enter in i said, that is ridiculous. that did not happen. people say, how do you know it did not happen. two months later, the archbishop says? i did not do that wedding just for television. but she lied about that.

>> can i -- she is a pathological liar. i love how clueless time has to be to think that america needs to see more of this stupid, irritating, hilarious couple. this is my message to england think this is america. okay? we can take that she lied about the accusations of racism in the royal family. she is a hard-core opportunities. she is running the series charade on this dude. england cannot come after us for that. they went after piers morgan proposing the exact same thing. this is embarrassing to expect. >> yay! >> put that picture from time. something is off with the. dynamic. the body language experts. he is slinking and sliding and insulting and grabbing on for dear life. you never lean in. she is in the power position.

and i was in the dentist office. they did not even have time magazine. it is nowhere. >> i am out of time. >> i always had a soft spot in my heart for them. i love my mom. and when more thing. .

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>> greg: let's do this. ♪ animals are great. animals are great. >> greg: we haven't dhon for a while. i toned it down a little bit because i know you get tired of hearing that music but, you know what? animals are great. sometimes they can be really stupid. check out this dog thinking he could play frisbee with abe lincoln. [laughter] >> greg: but, like, look at him, he is convinced that -- >> awe. >> judge jeanine: where did you find this? >> dana: super cute. >> greg: animals are great but you, you know, they are kind of slow. >> dana: quickly podcast is up fox news network alex roth wrote a book called the raging 2020s and the fight for our future. talks about the power of passive thinking, too. that's good one. you can check that one out. >> greg: it works. >> dana: and now let's do some crazy tricks. ♪ ♪ >> dana: here's a gal doing some crazy tricks, well a crazy trick.

what do you think? okay. i'm not wild about this. i think that juggling is -- even though i can't do it it's actually pretty easy. >> judge jeanine: do you? [laughter] >> dana: just kidding. i'm going to give -- oh, wow, that was going to be a low score. i'm going to give it a solid 5. >> richard: a 5? >> dana: a juggling? >> greg: did you know she is blind and deaf, dana? did you look at the research? >> judge jeanine: did you know that today is september 16th is national guacamole day? so i have in front of me some beautiful guacamole with chips and chipotle is offering loyalty extra points on gawk chips. but i want you to know avocado. the reason to believe why guacamole costs extra.

did you know avocado a fruit or a vegetable? >> dana: fruit. >> richard: fruit. >> jesse: vegetable. >> judge jeanine: it's a fruit. >> greg: a seed. >> judge jeanine: specifically a berry. >> richard: a high school in sanger, texas has opened a grocery store in school building to help serve the families in its community better so student don't have to wonder where their next meal is coming from. the store is run by students and it's paid for by points instead of cash or credit. points are awarded to families based on the numbers of people that are in each family or in each household. it's a pretty -- it's a great program. especially as folks are returning and we saw during the pandemic so many long lines at food banks. this is a way to help students and families who need to eat and they don't know where the next meal is coming from. big shout out to the students in sanger, texas. >> jesse: new emojis are coming to iphone if you don't have an iphone who are you? new favorite pregnant man.

>> judge jeanine: oh, my. >> jesse: sexy look. i'm going to use that first. hand signal for money. i'm going to be using that a lot with gutfeld. >> dana: i'm going to get when i win a million dollars. >> richard: i like that one. >> dana: that's it for us, everyone. >> bret: first segment i have advice if you are attacked by a group of clowns always going to for the jeg glory. >> dana: very good. have a good show. >> bret: thank you. breaking tonight, the breaking news from washington, thank you, good evening, welcome to washington, i'm bret baier. a major development in the long awaited investigation into the justice department's examination of donald trump's relationship with russia during the 2016 presidential campaign. yes. this is the john durham investigation. a key figure in the case is now facing a federal criminal charge. correspondent david spunt t