memorial service for gabby petito held today near her long island hometown. gabby's father and step-father both giving public eulogies, paying tribute to their daughter. hello. welcome to fox news live. i'm arthel neville. hi eric. >> eric: hello arthel. hello everyone. welcome. i'm eric shawn. family and friends gathered earlier this morning to privately remember ms. petito. members of the public joining hours later for an open service that is still continuing as you can see. the 22-year-old was found dead in a national park while going missing while on a cross-country

road trip with her fiance brian laundrie. her remains are still in wyoming we're told with the fbi as the investigation and manhunt for her fiance continues. laura ingle live outside the funeral home in long island where she was remembered as an inspiration. hi, laura. >> hi, eric, indeed, family and friends have been pouring in all day long, those who came here to remember gabby petito and those who didn't know her. as you mentioned, this was open to the public. there's been a huge outpouring of support inside of this funeral home today, and as you mentioned as well, it is still going on. now, the funeral home says over 1200 people have come to pay their respects today, and there was a line wrapped around the building a short while ago. it is about to wrap up, all this after the family and close friends had a private memorial that the public was allowed to get in and hear both gabby's father and step-father give

their eulogies. listen. >> if you knew gabby, she was always a pretty happy girl. people gravitated to her. her nature was always to smile and treat everybody [inaudible]. she always made people feel welcome. the love and support from everybody, from all across the world, it's been amazing. remembering her and celebrating her, this is what it is, it is about celebrating a beautiful person, a beautiful soul. >> it's been a hard day for many reasons. we have learned that gabby petito's remains have still not been released by the fbi to the family and are currently in wyoming, and while it was a difficult decision for her step-father who traveled to wyoming for the search efforts with the goal of not leaving until he could bring gabby home, the family said with the uncertainty around when the fbi would be releasing her body, it was time to come home and grieve together and hold a service in

her honor. a prayer card handed out to attendees has the words from one of gabby's tattoos let it be and a poem on the back that was written by her step-father. those who came near and far said they wanted to be here for the family any way they could. >> we wanted to support the petito family, because she's part of our community, and she's part of the family, in hindsight, and i just want -- it's just touched everybody in so many ways. >> we've also learned when the remains are released to the family, she will be cremated, be brought here to long island. still no timeline on that. arthel, eric? >> eric: such an emotional service. she was remembered as someone with such inspiration and love. the message that will continue -- that the family will have a news conference perhaps late they are week? >> -- later this week? >> yes, i heard that a short

while ago. there will be a press conference from her father, step-father and all her family members here on long island. we don't know what that press conference will be about. it will be on tuesday. this is the first time all four parents have been together. they want to talk to the public. we will bring that to you on tuesday. err -- eric? >> eric: we will be talking about the investigation to the manhunt of her fiance coming up. laura, thank you. >> arthel: speaking of that manhunt, the search continues in a florida swamp. an attorney for laundrie's family say he went for a hike, on september 13th. that's the last time they found him. the reserve is full of alligators and snakes. now the bounty hunter the dog is

getting involved. what can you tell us, charles? >> we're hearing that the fbi showed up to the laundrie family home here in north port to collect items belonging to brian for dna matching. the fbi arrived today in much smaller numbers than we saw when agents raided the home earlier in the week. we saw at least two -- the agents appear to write something down on a piece of paper before leaving a short time later with what appears to be a brown paper bag. laundrie family attorney tells fox news in a statement, quote, the fbi requested some personal items belonging to brian laundrie to assist them with dna matching, and brian's parents provided the fbi with what they could. we've reached out to the fbi for comment and are waiting to hear back. meantime, police continue their search for brian in that massive swamp area for an eighth day. the 25,000 acre carlton reserve is still with a lot of challenging obstacles for authorities. that includes al gators, pythons, muddy land and a lot of

water. in fact, police say, about 75% of the land is submerged right now. former reality tv star dog the bounty hunter is now joining the manhunt for brian. less than 24 hours ago, dog knocked on the front door of the laundrie family home, but he was met with silence. fox news digital spoke with him moments after that. take a listen. >> strongest lead i see is that one of her friends said he had been in the appalachian mountains by himself for a couple months. now, he's not just a camper then. he is an outdoorsman. >> so arthel, you have got police. you have got dog the bounty hunter now, and you have a law firm here in florida offering $20,000 to anyone who can provide information on the whereabouts of laundrie. of course lots of folks are probably going to take them up on the offer. the new news that the fbi showed

up to the laundrie family home today. arthel? >> arthel: charles watson live in florida. thanks. >> eric: to the crisis now on our southern border. authorities have cleared that massive encampment that was under the bridge in del rio texas but patrol agents say that migrants continue to cross across the rio grande river at a steady rate this as thousands of mostly haitians that have camped under that bridge they have been cleared out. homeland security secretary admits to chris wallace on fox news sunday this morning that the vast majority of those were released into our country, and he's not even sure how many. >> they're released on conditions, approximately i think it is about 10,000 or so -- 12,000. >> chris: have been released? >> yes. >> chris: are we talking about a total of 12,000 or could it be even higher? >> it could be even higher. the number that are returned could be even higher. what we do is we follow the law, as congress has passed it. >> eric: as this continues, jeff

paul is live there in del rio with the latest on the continuing story. hi, jeff. >> that stream of migrants into the u.s. is showing no signs of slowing down. in fact, in this very location where we're at here in del rio we saw as many as five different groups crossing the rio grand here and essentially giving themselves up to texas dps. some of these people are coming from all over. last week we saw a lot of people coming in from haiti, haitian nationals. today we've seen people coming in from venezuela, cuba. you still have people coming in from places like guatemala and el salvador. today on fox news homeland security secretary mayorkas was asked about the perception that many migrants make the journey thinking they will eventually get released into the u.s. here's how he responded. >> this is nothing new. we've seen this type of irregular migration many many times throughout the years.

i don't know if governor abbott said the same thing in 2019, when there were more than a million people encountered at the southern border. >> mayorkas wouldn't call the situation a flood of people trying to migrate to the u.s. he says the biden administration doesn't agree with the building of the wall and that the law provides individuals with the opportunity to make a claim for asylum. but texas governor greg abbott who also spoke to fox news says president biden is in dereliction of duty, and enough isn't being done to secure the border to protect not only texans but the entire country. >> they've created a magnet that led to these massive groups of haitians as well as the other groups that are coming here for one reason, and that's because they have sent a message and a signal to the entire world that they are not going to secure the border. they're going to allow them across. >> sources say there could be another massive migrant caravan just around the corner. authorities tell us they are tracking some 20,000 people who

have crossed into the southern part of mexico and could be heading north and possibly arrive here along the u.s. mexico border any time next month. eric? >> eric: jeff paul in del rio, texas. thank you. we will have more on the situation on the border. retired acting ice director tom homan is here. he will be interviewed by arthel in a few minutes. >> arthel: from del rio to d.c., a major showdown on capitol hill this week. house speaker pelosi is calling for the passage of president biden's massive tax and spending bill. the bipartisan infrastructure bill and the government funding bill, all this amid republican opposition and democratic infighting. lucas tomlinson is live at the white house now with the latest. we know the price tag, 3.5, what, million, trillion, i can't keep up anymore. but what's in this so-called human infrastructure bill? >> arthel, the bottom line is president biden's entire domestic agenda is on the line

this week. those bills you rattled off earlier total more than 4 trillion dollars and include the 1 trillion dollars in infrastructure, a lot of people like nancy pelosi say it has to be passed this week. >> i'm never bringing a bill to the floor that doesn't have the votes. and i think any time you put an arbitrary date, well, remember when the republicans said they were going to overturn the affordable care act on the anniversary of the affordable care act, i knew right then and there they were doomed. >> pelosi sent a letter to her democratic colleagues yesterday saying this will be an intense week on capitol hill. president biden says the 3.5 trillion dollars spending bill, by the way, the largest in history, arthel, will cost nothing. it will be paid for by tax hikes on the wealthy and corporate america. house budget committee yesterday met in a rare saturday session here in washington to okay the 3.5 trillion dollars bill. it's 2400 pages long. that's twice as long as the bible, arthel. that's part of the problem. you ask me what's in it. a lot of people don't know

because it is so long. democrats have to figure out how to pass this thing and ram it through the senate. republicans say it's not a bipartisan endeavor. inflation on household goods already up 5% this year. republicans worry this new spending will crush the u.s. economy. >> i've never seen washington spend so much to kill so many american jobs, to raise price even higher and expand the welfare state, the greatest expansion of our lifetime. this is an economic surrender to china, russia, and europe, with saddling american businesses with some of the highest tax rates in the world, which will drive and kill -- >> the fiscal year ends thursday without a stopgap measure, congress could be working some weekends, not just you and me, arthel? >> arthel: they can join our party, lucas tomlinson, live at the white house. thank you, lucas. eric? >> eric: arthel, as gabby petito's remembered by her family and friends, and the public, at a service in long

island, you are looking at the maloney funeral home, people are still streaming into that funeral home for another hour. i see some folks standing by the front door. there are photographs down the hallways. friends and family still there as there was that service earlier today where she was remembered as a loving young woman full of life and zest as inspiration as so many strangers have been touched by her murder. this as authorities in wyoming have continued to search for answers in her death. and the hunt for brian, well, brian laundrie, her fiance, well, that's continuing in florida. coming up, former d.c. homicide detective ted williams on if brian is even there. one, two! one, two, three! only pay for what you need! with customized car insurance from liberty mutual! nothing rhymes with liberty mutual. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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>> arthel: -- have been arrested for allegedly plotting an attack on their high school. local authorities said the group planned to attack the high school outside of scranton, pennsylvania, in april of 2024 to mark 25 years since the columbine massacre. two 15-year-olds will be charged as adults. two other teens face juvenile charges. alexandria hough has more. >> natural born killers is how these teens described themselves. in fact it was the title of the

group text message thread that a parent found and took to police foiling a plot to replicate the columbine massacre. two 15-year-olds have been charged as adults. two more as juveniles for their roles in a conspiracy to carry out a mass casualty attack on dunmore high school. their target date was columbine's 25th anniversary when two student shooters killed 12 classmates and one teacher in colorado. this pennsylvania community is horrified. >> i was like no. this can't be real. this is -- it's terrible for 15-year-olds to be planning to actually murder people, it's just beyond belief. >> according to our fox affiliate wolf, the group planned to shoot up the school and specifically target three faculty members. a search of one of the suspect's homes uncovered a stockpile of home made explosives, plans for making pipe bombs, a list of guns and ammo needed and writings on columbine.

on friday the school district superintendent released this statement to the community reading in part, quote, please be advised that the administration has been informed that the alleged perpetrators are in custody, and we have been assured that there is no current danger to students and staff. according to our affiliate, the plotting began back in may, and the parent found the text messages and went to police in july. many members of the community have voiced concern about not being told about this sooner. arthel? >> arthel: alexandria hough, thanks, alex. eric? >> eric: arthel, gabby petito's family and friends gathering earlier today in a public memorial in holbrook, long island. this as the investigation into her murder continues. meanwhile investigators in florida are continuing their intense manhunt for her fiance, brian laundrie whose family says he went for a hike into the wilderness a week ago, minus his wallet and cell phone. that would make him harder to track. they say they waited three days before contacting the

authorities that he was even missing. ted williams, former d.c. homicide detective joins, fox news contributor. what does that tell you? they say he went to the park. could that be a ruse? could bit a red herring, a fake, to throw off authorities and maybe brian is not at the park, he fled the country or something else? >> you know, eric, you've said a lot here, and i wholeheartedly agree with everything that you have said, the question, is is he actually in that park? and is he alive, if he's in that park? i suspect that after about eight days in this park, this swampland, that it's more likely than not that if he's there, he's not alive. there's so much that's mysterious about this. he tells his family that he's going to go hiking in a swamp land and leaves his wallet and

phone, according to them. they don't tell authorities until several days later. they even go to the park, say they saw the car there, left it there and then came back a couple days later and picked up a car. all of this seems like to me some kind of a smokescreen. just think about it, eric. this man is going hiking, and the woman he supposedly loved at the time was missing? because at the time he went hiking, it had not been defined as a homicide. there's a lot going on that's suspicious. >> eric: one of the friends of gabby's says brian could be in the wilderness for months. he did that months before, in appalachian trail, that he went on into the wilderness for months. that buttresses that potential story that he's there, but you are right, there are some weird things that don't make any sense, with the timeline, going

picking up his car and driving it back. another story where the neighbor said they saw the whole family leave in a camper at some point. >> yeah. there's so many different twists and turns to this. look, you can go hiking in the appalachian trail, and that's one thing, but going in those swamps, in florida, where you've got all these snakes and you've got all of these alligators is a whole different story. and if he's there, and he's without his wallet and phone, then he has to try to survive there. he can't start a fire because if he starts a fire, somebody will recognize it from the air, from a drone or something. so there's a lot going on here. they're spending a hell amount of money. they are spending, eric, a million dollars to date hunting for brian laundrie, and guess what? they're not charging him at this stage with murder. he is charged only with using this credit card, which is a felony.

so this is really somewhat crazy to say the least. >> eric: presumably that card belonged to gabby, they say it's someone else's card ringing up a thousand dollars, so obviously on his trip, his drive from wyoming back to florida, in the van when he arrived. and there was the emotional service this morning, and it's continuing going on, ted, in holbrook, long island. and gabby's father and her step-father spoke, and her father spoke about alluding to the issue of domestic violence, didn't use the word. it's been part of this story with the witnesses saying that they saw brian slap her with the stop by police to moab, separating them for the night in different hotels. the police officer saying he thought it was a mental break, not a do mesic abuse situation. -- not a domestic abuse situation. here's gabby's father as a message for people who are in toxic relationships. take a listen to what he says.

>> if there's a relationship that you are in that may not be the best thing for you, leave it now. we've got more e-mails of men and women doing that, taking care of themselves first. watching that happen and seeing that type of inspiration, the entire planet knows this woman's name now. and she's inspired a lot of women and a lot of men to do what's best for themselves first. put yourselves first. >> eric: your reflections as a law enforcement officer on domestic violence and the inability by some to never ask for help. the help is out there, and perhaps if gabby had sought that, she would be alive today. >> yeah, you know, my heart goes out to that family. you send your daughter off on a trip across-country with a man. you find out later that he's slapping your daughter around, according to witnesses. the man then comes back

across-country, in the van that they both left with, and he won't cooperate with the authorities. this in and of itself is very frustrating. i think the gall of brian's family to send their condolences to gabby's family, when in fact, from all indications, even brian's family was not helping out. it takes a lot of gall to do that. but i take my hat off to this family. they're grieving. and they're hurting. >> eric: they have a message they will have a news conference on tuesday. it will probably resonate with that message, that if you are in a domestic violence situation, or difficult toxic relationship, there are places and ways to seek help. ted williams, former d.c. homicide detective, thank you, ted, as always >> my pleasure. >> arthel: thousands of migrants continue to pour into the u.s. with no end in sight. the big question is, how can the

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>> arthel: the nba says about 90% of its players are fully vaccinated against covid-19. but closing the gap with the final 10% is proving difficult. a new report says some players like kyrie irving are spreading anti-vaccine conspiracy theories among other players. the orlando magic jonathan isaac says he won't get the shot because he doesn't trust the science. >> eric: there's a court hearing scheduled for wednesday after a federal judge temporarily blocked new york city's vaccine mandate for the department of education from starting tomorrow in new york city schools. a vaccine mandate deadline does remain intact for state healthcare workers. some hospitals are preparing for staff shortages for those

members of the staff who haven't gotten the vaccine. alex hogan is live in our new york city newsroom with the latest. >> hi, eric. everyone who works in a hospital or nursing home will need to receive at least one dose of the covid-19 vaccine by tomorrow. the governor is preparing to bring in the national guard to fill the gaps of those who are unwilling to comply, due to the potential widespread worker shortages, the state's response plan is also calling on professionals who are licensed in other states or counties and recent graduates who are entering the workforce as well as retirees who have left the field. all facilities will need to self-report their vaccination updates daily to the new york state department of health. workers who were let go for failing to get their shot will not qualify for unemployment insurance. that is, unless they can prove it is due to a medical reason. the state explaining that this is a move to better protect hospital patients.

while some critics argue that resources instead should go to extra testing. >> there needs to be a testing strategy for people who can't have the vaccine or won't have the vaccine. there needs to be a strategy in place where you could test people frequently. >> tomorrow a vaccine mandate for all teachers and staff in new york city schools was scheduled to go into effect. a federal judge, however, temporarily blocking that rule. the department of education responding our current vax or test mandate remains in effect. we're seeking speedy resolution by the circuit court next week. over 82% of doe employees have been vaccinated, and we continue to urge all employees to get their shot by september 27th. at least 88% of teachers have received their shot. and 95% of principals have received theirs. a hearing in front of three judges is scheduled for wednesday morning to determine if this vaccine requirement can be enforced in this kind of setting. eric? >> eric: alex, thank you very

much. >> chris: the statistics of your own department show that the flood of people coming illegally across the border has gotten worse under the biden administration. >> so i wouldn't call it a flood, chris, if i may. >> chris: what would you call is it? >> we are certainly seeing a large number here in this year, but in 2019, we saw a large number. in 2014, in 2010, this issing in now. -- this is nothing new. >> arthel: chris wallace grilling secretary mayorkas. the biden administration confirms some 30,000 haitians have crossed into del rio, texas, in a little over two weeks. immigration judges and the department of homeland security are reviewing more than 15,000 cases. meanwhile, the white house seems to be at odds with its own border patrol over how agents on horseback allegedly handled some migrants. let's bring in tom homan, retired acting i.c.e. director

and fox news contributor. let me get to the horseback agents later. i want to start with title 42. give me a second to explain. you know what it is. it allows officials to block entry of non-citizens who carry diseases but does not allow expulsion. title 42 is a policy invoked by president trump at the start of the spread of coronavirus as a public health measure to clamp down on the border. although immigrant advocates oppose it, the biden administration is in court fighting to uphold title 42. so how else can the biden administration follow your lead? >> well, the biden administration they have been violating title 42 since they came to office because title 42 says everybody stays. that's what president trump did. as soon as the biden administration took over, they let families and unaccompanied children, when i say unaccompanied, 70% of them were 15 to 17, they violated title 42 to begin with letting thousands

across the border even though they had title 42. that's why i think judge sullivan said wait a minute, you are here fighting for title 42 but you are violating the policy releasing thousands to the u.s. many of them they released with covid. they can't go and argue for title 42 saying we're trying to protect the american people when they have been violating it from day one. >> arthel: you know, there was a lot of pushback and criticism of seeing the families torn apart there at the border and seeing, you know, kids turn back, even if their 15 or 16 years old. -- even if they are 15 or 16-year-olds. >> they keep focusing on the trump administration. 2500 family separations. because of biden's policies, over 116,000 separations, where parents put their kids in hands of smuggling organizations to be smuggled into the u.s. 116,000 children have crossed this border under biden administration by themselves with criminal cartels which is a record. the largest number in the history of the united states border patrol, and let me go back to secretary mayorkas

statements on chris wallace. he says we've had this before. no, the numbers this year are unprecedented. the highest they have been in 21 years. when he says 15,000 released for immigration proceedings, that's another lie because they are given notice to report. notice to report says right on the notice to report you are not in immigration proceedings. you won't be detained. you will be released. data shows you 50% won't even show up in immigration court. 15,000 people have been released. if they choose to show up in court under their own free will, then maybe their case will be heard. >> arthel: listen, clearly, the biden administration has bungled this situation at the border on multiple levels. you know, no doubt about that. i do want to ask you, though, as we learn from our mistakes, what mistakes did the trump administration make, and how can the current administration learn from mistakes the trump administration made pertaining to the migrant crossings at our southern boarder? >> -- border? >> i think the trump

administration, the data shows no one secured the border better than president trump. illegal immigration was down 80%. people want to say trump's policies that were inhumane. let me ask you a question, when illegal immigration is down 80%. how many women didn't get raped? because 31% of women who take that journey get sexually assaulted. >> arthel: we don't know that. >> that's a data that's showing -- that's clear. >> arthel: i don't want to push back on you, especially not when it pertains to raping women. all i'm saying we don't know how many women got raped. that's all i'm telling you. that's horrendous. >> that's not my number. that's doctors without borders. >> arthel: i get it. all i'm saying, tom, they can't -- doctors without borders is an outstanding organization. i'm just simply saying it is hard to track that kind of horrific violence, you know, to

the number. that's all i'm saying. listen, you said that you all did everything right is what i think you were saying. you didn't really make any mistakes that you can't pass along to this administration. meanwhile, how can, in your estimation, how can the biden administration keep track of the 12,000 soon to be 17,000 haitian migrants released into the u.s.? and if you think they can't track these people, what's your advice, tom, for state and local governments and authorities? especially since the federal government is in charge of immigration. you know that's according to the constitution >> they can keep them in custody. the average length in custody for those in detention is 38 days. 38 days, they will see a judge and get a ruling. after escaping fear and persecution from homeland, they shouldn't mind staying in a family residential center not a detention center for 38 days. the data shows when you release them, 90% don't qualify

[inaudible]. >> arthel: how do you stop them from coming? suddenly you run out of resources at the border. you saw what happened at that international bridge in del rio. you had a horrible humanitarian crisis. i debt your point about detaining them, in 38 days. -- i get your point about detaining them in 38 days. there's so much bureaucracy. they can't get taken care of and can't get processed. is there a way to stop the spigot flowing from someplace else before they get there? >> you enforce the law. you enforce the law the way it is written by congress. you do the same thing president trump did. you put title 42 full compliance. you get agreements with the central american countries. the biden administration destroyed all of this. bottom line, president biden ran on open borders agenda, saying he's going to end i.c.e. detention. he's going to have more moratorium on deportations.

he's going to award daca. award amnesty. he's going to give free medical care. you can't make those types of promises and not expect the whole world is not going to try to come here illegally. the answer to the border is do what president trump did, whether you like him or love him, he had more control on that border more than any other six presidents i worked for. the data is clear on that. >> arthel: listen. we've got to fix this. no doubt about that. tom, thank you very much. it's not whether you like him or love him, it's whether you like him or not, but anyway, we will talk about that aler -- we will talk about that later. it was nice to talk to you. thank you very much. eric? >> eric: nearly a month after u.s. troops withdrew from afghanistan, fox news continues to follow the story of that. we are live in kabul, afghanistan, with another fascinating inside look. trey has been doing fantastic reporting with what life is like there. glad to have you with us now,

trey. how are you? >> eric, thank you very much. there are a lot of questions about what comes next for afghanistan. now, the mayor of kabul is hopeful, but the clock is ticking to find economic solutions for the afghan people. >> we want to create pockets of hope, stability, and in regard-looking cultural uplifting. >> the mayor of kabul is a former u.s. citizen, united airlines pilot, and now he's one of the last afghan government officials still serving under taliban rule. >> i have a responsibility, and i've been given this responsibility to do something, and if i just leave like others, what have i achieved? >> the fut of afghanistan remains uncertain. civilians don't know whether the taliban will be able to govern. for many of the group's young fighters who have been at war for 20 years, this is the first

experience they have had with modern society. kabul and the rest of the country remains an experiment between government, conflict, and tribal extremism. civilians hope the outcome will mean economic prosperity and stability. >> i hope that every person finds work because we have a lot of workers in afghanistan, but they didn't have work. also we need to -- higher education. that's our hope. i have this hope. >> you saw the imagery in that piece. in some parts of afghanistan, taliban fighters are playing on carnival rides. in other parts, they are hanging bodies from cranes. this disconnect is going to mack it ever more difficult for the afghan people to move forward. eric? >> eric: one final note, the mayor who you interviewed, i mean, former american united airlines pilot. he knew one of the pilots that crashed in 9/11 in the world trade center, attended his funeral. that made him want to go back to

his home country, which is why he went back. he wears western style suits. how is he doing the job? he said he's going to stay on the job because he needs to fix the manholes and the water needs to keep running. >> absolutely. he described a number of projects he had for the afghan people here in the capital of kabul. he talked about making a coffee shop where he could bring people together to talk about the future of afghanistan. all those projects are on hold right now as he waits to see if he will be able to retain his job under taliban rule. eric? >> eric: trey in kabul afghanistan for us tonight. thanks, trey. with thirty grams of protein. those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks! [sighs wearily] here, i'll take that! woo-hoo! ensure max protein. with thirty grams of protein, one gram of sugar, and now with two new flavors! it wasn't long after i had joined golo before i had to start buying new pants. one gram of sugar, golo changes your whole lifestyle and it changes the way that you think. you don't have to deprive yourself of anything.

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chief political correspondent tat washington examiner -- at the washington examiner and fox news contributor joins us now. why doesn't the administration reimpose remain in mexico, then theoretically you may not have this problem? >> you have to remember that president biden ran on a platform of reversing everything that president trump did on immigration. he said he would get rid of remain in mexico. he said he would change the asylum agreements with other countries. he said he would impose a 100 degree -- 100-day moratorium on all deportations. and the president has mostly done what he said on that, so i think for him to say gee, you know, it turns out that president trump's policy on return to mexico was really correct, and we're going to go back to that. i don't think that's possible either for the president as a man an certainly for his base that would be very unhappy with it. >> eric: how do you think the administration will be dealing with this as we see these images

that are just continuing? >> yeah. well, it's a big problem because if you listen to secretary mayorkas on fox news sunday today, he basically said we're not going to change our basic policy of allowing people to enter the country, apply for asylum, and remain in the country while their asylum claims are adjudicated which can take years, meaning they stay in the country for all that time, and they don't even have to show up for hearings sometimes. so given that, it seems unlikely that this is going to get a lot better because the important thing to remember about all the would be migrants for many many countries around the world who are coming through mexico, coming across the board enter the united states. -- border into the united states. they follow the news. they know what's going on and know what the president's policies are, and i think they will continue to come because they continue to believe

correctly that on many occasions they will be allowed to stay. >> eric: you just misspoke. you said it is going to get better. do you mean it is going to get worse? >> it will not get better. it certainly won't. >> eric: would this be a time to reexamine some of those amnesty laws and some of those laws that you point out that you say are faulty, to change them? >> well, a lot of people have suggested a reform, whereby people could apply for asylum in the country, in the country where they live, not to actually physically come to the united states because secretary mayorkas pointed out today that it is u.s. law that people are allowed to apply for asylum, but he did not point out that it is also u.s. law that it is illegal to cross the board enter the united states without authorization. so where do you balance those two laws? and one of the ways that people have suggested doing that is to

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