♪ ♪ mark: hello america, i am mark levin. this is "life, liberty and levin." we have peter doocy. and how he is treated there at the house. our second guest lawrence jones, what he has seen at

the border, i could not be more proud of these two. i think they are the future of journalism, i look very much forward to talking with them. before we get there. something is about to happen in next couple days. you heard about it. very few specifics, i spend timeme trying to dig up all specifics in 3.5 trillion dollar democracy bill, it is it is about 5.5 trillion over 10 years, but democrats are good at ponzi schemes, in private sector if you are involved in a ponzi scheme, you go to prison for a long time. that is what democrats do. there are 50 democrats in the senate, and 50 republicans, under the constitution thes. vice president where every she is, she gets to show up at

some point and break the tie. she is the president of the senate, that is pretty much all her responsibilities for under the constitution, and, of course, if the president dies she steps in. in the house it has not been this close in a century, there are 435 members of the house, 3 to 4 vote separation between them. 3 to 4. the democrats view this as a massive mandate to destroy the nation. we have inflation going through the roof, you see shortages taking place in terms of materials and prices going way up, all things going on to the economy thatec don't need to be. but for this president and his party are doing. i want to talk to you about what they propose to do. and iey don't have all of the details, they are not done writing this bill. they produce the omnibus bills, bigger than any telephone book in america.

theig internal revenue code. we have that. massive regulations, requirements. that is the kind of bill they want to pass, you are supposed to be able to participate, how can youu participate if you don't know all of the details or you can't get into capitol building or your own representatives don't know what is in the bill? what they are do is finally put the omarosa -- omnibus bill together, they tell members you have 48 hours to vote on it. people claim they know what is on it in media, they do not have the foggiest idea. the hope that one democrat senator from arizona and

from will save the republic, i found some of the stuff that is in the bill. take notes. internal revenue service almost 80 billion more, they will hire from 75,000, hire to 125,000 employees to monitor you. all bank accounts and paypal venmo, cash apps and evidence, any transactions of 600 coming in our out of your account, does that sound like limits that are placed on billionaires, no, that is for every american, they want to squeeze you, dirty secret, unless they punish the middle class, they will never get enough money. they want to massively increase american corporate tax rate on our

companies, many companies will pay a higher corporate income tax rate in u.s. than in communist china and virtually every other industrialized country in the world, is that how i create competition in jobs and provide people with more benefits? i don't think so. price controls, that i want to tie it to 6 socialist health care systems in europe and australia. guess what. that will drive up or cut 60% of research and development for new drugs, the estimate by one study we have 342 fewer drugs than otherwise. think aboutgs that. people who have or have family members with cancer, or heart diseases or alzheimer's and so on, we're going to slash the ability for these companies to make these investments. because that is what shaped

-- what happened to the rest of the world, we americans have access to 90% of new drugs. in u.k. it is 60%. in japan 50%. and canada 44%. that is what you get with government run universal centralized healthcare. less healthcare, and worse care. whatar else? free universal pre-k . free community college.ge free 12 weeks of family leave. they extend temporary child care credit with additional taxpayer subsidies for the rest of the time. a foot in the door, think about. they want to expand medicare and lower the age from 65 to 60, meanwhile the trustees from medicare have said, hey, guys, we're going broke in 2 to 4 years. does congress care?

no, they have done nothing. those of you on medicare, you are getting whacked. what else? it funds the green new deal. retro fitting buildings, subsidizing solar wind. and electric government vehicles. tax so-called -- methane that mate might be a problem for certain members of congress. what are they going after? meat, fossil fuels. they want to create sudden sustain able housing, public transportation. rentalrc assistance. federal zoning, the suburbs, they are targeting you in this bill? a civilian climate corps. they want to enlist

enactvism thousands to address crime at change. whatever that means, i barely touched it. that is what we know right now. there are many more taxes in this bill, more redistribution of wealth. all kinds of crazy stuff snuck into the -- snuck into footnotes, we. american people it will change your lives, it may destroy our jobs and life styles, it could kill the economy, drive up inflation, we have no idea how to the work, i thought about it how much of this is constitutional? almost none. what do you mean? almost none. you know the new deal franklin roosevelt had a massive majority in house and senate, he used that to drive through the new deal. so much was that wasn't

unconstitutional. the court said so, he then threatened the court. it was revered. they rub stamped the rest of his proposals. mark are you opposed to medicare? it is not what i'm opposed to, they are popular, change the constitution, don't just impose our will on the american people because people like something or because certainin thing are just or what have you, that is beside the point. now, massive majority, now we have this congress, 50/50 in senate, bare majority in the house? this bill touches everything. everything b m social, cultural, 7 civil aspect of our society, finances and economic system. it reaches into every family in this country. they want to push amnesty

through, parliament they started attackinged her. kill the filibuster rule, pack the court, pack the senate, we're on a role here. 50/50. we control it. when luke at this then they decide to change the voting system, change the voting system. so 16 and 17-year-olds can register to vote, to make sure that anyone who votes is not challenge, ever. that m voting rules are not cleared ever, they want to destroy the voting system. then you have biden's executive order with racist critical race theory, destroying girls sports in high schools and college with the genderrism agenda. then the attacks on all of these institution and traditions, open borders,

iimimmigration is a disaster, you see what happened in afghanistan, you see how he is misleading the virus, ladies and gentlemen it is well beyond time to put your foot down, these bills, these executive orders these decisions these democrats and their president are making are killing this country. they are transforming this nation in a way you never agreed to. they are cutting us out of the process. they like to cite poles, bernie the red sanders said, hey, bern bernie sanders does not like true public participation. because most american marxists don't. ladies and gentlemen that is the situation right now. i want to move to rest of

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mark: welcome back, america our first guest peter doocy, white house correspondent. for fox news channel. but i have a surprise for you. >> president biden ever been to the southern border? >> in his life? >> yes. >> i will have to look back in my history book and check the times. >> following up ont this basic but important question. you are telling us that that dhs chief has most recent numbers. how many haitians under the bridge have been setback and released to u.s., chief said he does not know, who else can we ask. >> you can ask department of homeland security. >> is someone asking foreign nationals who are walking in del rio, texas for proof of -- >> as individuals come across the border, they are

assessed if they have symptoms they are quarantined. >> a requirement for people at a business with more than a hundred people but not a requirement for migraines -- migrants at border why. >> that is correct. >> you does president still think the over the horizon strikes can work. >> absolutely. mark: peter doocy there is a piece of your life. welcome to the program. tell the american people a little bit about yourself. your age. why you became interested in this business. >> i'm a 34-year-old villanova grad, i got married a couple months ago. my wife and a live in a dc suburb. and i a lot of people, have

been watching my dad in morning on fox and friends for 25 years now, i thought he had a cool job, i credit john mccain forgetting into the business, when i was in college, chris matthews msnbc hardball campus term came to campus, i thought it would be cool because i was interested in politics, i went. there was a producer polling audience, asking if anyone had questions for mccain, i praised my hand it was day after hillary clinton of at a photo op drinking shots with voters in pennsylvania, i told the producer, i would like to ask john mccain if he wants to did for a shot with me. and he said, can you make it more h interesting. i thought on it. producer came back, said, okay, did you maked, your

question more interesting, i want to ask john mccain, if he thinks that hillary clinton is drinking the shot because she is trailing obama by so much and if he wants to go for a should the with me, producer said that is great. you can go second. i asked him, he had a funny react, some producers from fox want a young guy to go to the conventions that year in minneapolis, and denver, i went i did some man on street stuff, and i kept going from there, i will note, once i was in dc, john mccain loved telling that story to people. mark: a great story. let's bring this to today. how do you get ready for one of these press conferences? you have to see what is in the news. it seems to me that you are examining what is go on. some things may not make sense to you based on what a

cabinet secretary say or white house says. and in many cases you are trying to get them to square it up, how do you approach this every day. >> for relatively young person i have a ton of joe bidenon knowledge built in hmy brain for being with him for last two and a half years, i try to just think about what he is saying presently and how that possibly not lining up with things he had said in the past. not just in past 2 1/2 years, he has a very long career. you go through cscan archives of this person, you have thousands of hours of people to work with, i like to compare and contrast joe biden and joe biden. and i have been lucky enough

to get his attention a number of times to ask him directly, usually if i can getio his attention, i'm just trying to ask him why something he is saying now is different from something he said in the past. to his credit, he seems like he really enjoys having an opportunity to be challengeed and to defend himself. mark: does the press secretary jen psaki enjoy throwing you to, and allowing you to ask questions or does she say okay here is comes. >> i don't know what she says under her breath. but to her credit. he has called on us, knock on wood. at every single briefing that we've been in. not every day in the beginning because of covid. everybu single briefing she does call on us. i think that she always knows that i'm going to have

a couple fastballs. but i try not to throw curveballs, if there is something i will be discussing or asking her about that might not be on the front pages, i will send her a news story, like a topic, never a question in advance, i will say, this is something that i'm interested in if there is time in the briefing, i do that because it does not do us, me or fox any good to spring something on her. live on tv. that she doesn't know about, because she says, well i have to get back to you. that is not a helpful sound bite really for our business, but not helpful information. i appreciate there will be something that is a little bit different. she keeps pointing to me, and says go ahead.

mark: yet, conversely, your questions are not like some of your colleagues who say, you know the president is having a hell of a day, i understand he is doing this and been successful in that then they put a question mark at the end of it. your questions, in the way you ask them, are very respectful in my view. even though they can be very luce dating, you accomplish that at a young age. unlike people -- you need not comment on this, like jim acosta and so forth who are not capable of it. we'll be right back. that's how we've become the leader in 5g. #1 in customer satisfaction. and a partner who includes 5g in every plan, so you get it all.

>> welcome to fox news live. in los angeles, a team of investigators from national safety board at scene the yesterday's deadly amtrak derailment in montana. not clear what caused the derailment of the train. headed from seattle to chicago, the track was last inspected thursday. >> strategy striking university of utah football team, cornerback aaron low was killed early sunday in a shooting at house party. a second victim is in

critical condition. lowe's death is less than a year after teammate jod jordan was killed in an accidental shooting, now back to "life, liberty and levin." have a good night. mark: welcome back. peter doocy, many times when i watch the press conferences, including back and forth, you are left at end with question unanswered, do you feel afterward that really you did not get the answers that you need, the answers should be simple. like what are the numbers for this or that? sometimes they are blowing smoke? >> i would not say necessarily blowing smoke. there have been some times i will go back and listen to

an answer, and either realize that i am going to have to follow up on this the next day or next chance to be in a briefing. or just that this is all we're getting from this white house, they do a lot of planning. i put a ton of thought. sometimes hours a day into the questions and research before a briefing. i know they are doing the same thing. if we are getting very limited information, someone from the white house has decided this is all we're giving them, no matter how many times or different ways you ask, sometimes that just it my experience with those kind of answers has been very limited. i do find that they take enough questions and answer them with enough depth we have more of an understanding of what they are trying to do after a briefing. mark: are you frustrated after the president makes a statement, or give a speech,

and walks out? one thing to question the press secretary, but she is a go-between. does this not frustrate you? president trump, media had full access, other presidents much more access, i can tell you as a viewer it is frustrating. >> sometimes he will walk away without calling on anyone for a question. that not necessarily helpful for putting together a script for brett baier show at 6:00, i have found in a majority of events that i have been in with him, he is someone who will kind of linger around the microphone and just listen to see what the question is going to be. i have been on the record as talking about how for more than a year, when they would give the president or the former vice president or president elect, they would give him a list of people to

call on. we were never on it we continuously would linger, and listen to see what is that tall blond guy in the in the back, barking at me today. i don't think we'll get any president every single time. mark: no, but it would be nice if we got him a few more times, it is obvious to public he has a higher percentage of walkouts, back turning than most other presidents. how do your colleagues treat you? after a press conference, do any of them say good job or say anything? >> if anyone amongst press core has a problem with me or the way i do things, they have not told me. or said anything. i have a polite relationship with everyone else they

rotate in through the front row. there is a lot of standing and sitting around. joe biden has said himself he is at walking late, and photographers and other reporters and i have a pretty good relationship the way i see it. mark: yet. the press did come together, and did object to some of the ways in which biden and his people have treated the press. including when the prime minister of great britain was there he took some questions, and biden kind of blew off questions to him then left, that was weird. >> that was interesting, when jen psaki was asked about that, she blamed boris johnson, said, he decided to take questions. he did not alert to us that ahead of time. really, the the reason that the press pool that day filed a formal complaint with her, it was

soon as u.s. press tried to ask joe biden something biden staff raised their voices to get everyone out in a way that made it impossible with a mask to understand what he was saying if he was saying anything constructive. that was the issue. but, the official response from the white house is that. they will blame boris. mark: at least they didn't blame trump, peter doocy, thank you very much, keep up the good work, you have a wonderful family as well, you really are as a young age, you demonstrate to so many people what journalism is about, god bless. >> you that means a lot, >> you that means a lot, thank you, mark. hey lily, i need a new wireless plan for my business, but all my employees need something different. oh, we can help with that. okay, imagine this... your mover, rob, he's on the scene and needs a plan with a mobile hotspot. we cut to downtown, your sales rep lisa has to send some files, like asap!

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he is a smart dude, and very good responses that are uniqu to situations that are going on in the nation. lawrence, a pleasure to see you. >> an honor to be on your program. mark: tell america about yourself, your age. >> i am a simple man and dallas, texas, my mom got pregnant with me at 16, my dad married her, i am the oldest of 3, have lived american dream, struggling and instilled with values you work hart to get where you want, i have been on the left on the right, now more of a libertarian that wants to check on the government. i don't believe there is an unbias press. i am honest about me bee be

a libertarian, i hold both sides accountable. if you are a squish on the right, and come on fox and give talking points i'm not going to be happy. i tall it like a see it. mark: how did you get involved in this business. >> i was just a college student that had a video camera. that came under the school of breitbart, stories went viral that i did. and i worked with some smaller companies, conservative companies, then one day i am on fox news, and doing hits. and i think i was a contributor at the time, sean hannity saw me and just wanted to have a

conversation about the future for me. and wanted to make sure i was staying grounded. he called me a star, i said i don't know about, that i'm just living my life. he goes, you know lawrence, why don't you be my man on the street, i said absolutely not, i am a libertarian, you are a conservative-republican, i know we'll disagrees some. sean said, i like when we disagree. he said lawrence, just give it a shot for a week. i gave it a shot for a week. and he said, lawrence, if you do this for me, i will never tell you what to do, i'll never stifle your voice, just be lj . stay humble, remember your dad the truck driver, your mom the preacher and treat people with respect, be you and we'll be okay. he said if you do that you won't know my name or take my phone call in two years,

i still take his phone calls, but fox has given me a larger role, i am grateful for that. mark: sean hannity, people don't understand what down to earth decent kind human being he is, he got me started in radio. he said, mark, you are on as a gift -- guest, you need your own show, i heard about you lawrence from sean. you are african-american, you are libertarian, you don't toe the usual line one way or the other, do people in african-american community particularly politicians or opinion makers or media, if you speak to them and if they speak to you, how do they treat you. >> interesting, there is the black elites. then there is the people. so most of the time you see me on fox, i am in the

community talking with people. a lot of times they look like me. talking about violence happened and broken education system. then hosting diners in mid middle america, i am accepted. the people are only interested in people that care about them, i get a lot of love and respect from people that look like me that are actually in a community, i get to go to my same old barber shop. the black elites, the people in media have a issue with the way i do things, they can't control me that is one, and the people know me, i am there covering stories they want covered. i think if you judge me based on social media from the pundits, then you say, okay maybe black america is rejecting this idea of lawrence jones and what he

believes, if you go down on the ground and see the community that i get to talk with on the daily basis, you will get a much different picture. mark: you say you are libertarian, as a thumbnail sketch believe in ordered liberty. not in every case, do they move in that direction. that the is the core of it. every human has a right to live their lives unmolested by government. you see what is going on today in the country. far from libertarianism, i would say closer to american marxism. we see it getting worse. what do you think about all this? what do you think will happen to the country in the near future? >> you know, mark, i think we're on the path of destruction, we're losing our foundation as a country.

who needs al qaeda and taliban to destroy us when we are killing ourselves from the inside. we have some challenges, and we may have gotten some things wrong it is the founding documents that is our greatest defense weapon to go against government when they try to violate one's liberty. and you have a lot people that don't believe that, you have democratic party that believes that america at the core government itself is bad and hates all people. but they feel that same government they feel is racist is same government that will correct things, they confuse me. then the report -- republican side at times they say in a value liberty and freedom but none of the leaders really want to fight for the people, they like government they like. that is how i end up to

libertarian side because i was so tired of democrats just getting it wrong. then the republican side, saying they would fight for us and not doing that. my foundation is very clear, i believe that we have a role to fight for the people that condition speak for themselves -- can't speak for themselves, that the unborn, and government should check the state when the state abuses its power. but i believe in many cases you have people like cops and border patrol agents that are out there doing their job, when one abuses them they all look bad, they go after the bad actors there. mark: we'll be right back. is mealtime a struggle? introducing ore-ida potato pay. where ore-ida golden crinkles are your crispy currency to pay for bites of this... ...with this. when kids won't eat dinner, potato pay them to. ore-ida. win at mealtime.

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mark: welcome back, lawrence jones, you do real hard news, you have been on the border, you have seen what is going on, america has seen it, they found it repulsive, maxine waters, said those men on horseback who are not whipping anything, she said this reminds her of safely, what is her focus, what is your take. >> first talk about maxine

waters, what she said. before he get to the border patrol agent that was doing his job and following the training that was given to him, i've seen this many times i've been covering border for 5 years. >> well is no way to compare this to slavery. the slaves did not come here willingly. they were -- came here against their will, you can't compare them. i don't know where the democrats are going with this, actually i do know, which is why they keep playing this image over and owner they want to gas light black americans, you look at tactic in this situation, whip, they know what that does, even me, you hear the word whip, you hear word horse, chasing down a black person. you hear the words of you

are not welcome in this country, right, they are trying to gas light from emotional stand point, when black people see and hear that, they have a visceral reaction to that. what really happened there? first, border patrol agent on the horseback, that was not a whip. no one carries whips it was a rein, they are used to control the horse, i have been on the border, i am a texan, i know how to control the horse, democrats know as well, and number two no one got hit even with the reins, they knew, that they want people to be triggered emotionally. and number 3, they were not telling the folks there they were welcome -- not welcome because of the color of

their skin, they were telling them they did not go through a port of entry to apply for asylum that is the facts there, but they knew that. and we're talking about that because of democrats want this to be the smoke, the smoke to cover from the real crisis, that is happening, at the border, i think that is quite disgusting, mark. mark: i think you are quite right. and this constant race baiting can only be destructive to this country. in terms of biden policy, this is intentional? people coming in, we can talk about technical terms. notice to attend and all these other things but thousands of haitians like thousands of the people from countries south of the border are pouring into the country illegally, we know nothing about them, we don't know if they have the virus,

actually we know many do, this since tin -- is intended, because president biden has no interest in shuts it down. >> no, and border control cannot do their job, i just came from the border, they are handling processing, the state of texas, the security -- texas state troopers are holding the line at border, last defense of america right now with this border is the state of texas. they are the only ones that handle the enforcement. last thing i would say to vice president, kamala harris, as well as president of united states, if you really care about black people, why are you not covering the other stories that are happening in our community, i begged national press, that join me when there is violent happening and community beg for support, i beg them to cover the broken education system but they choose teacher why i beg them to conservative

-- to cover the businesses. forgive me if i don't take them seriously on this issue, then say they care, when they don't care for black americans. mark: beautifully put, thank you lawrence for what you do, for your fresh thinking and your fresh voice, take care, god bless you. >> god bless you, brother. mark with directv stream, i can get live tv and on demand... together. watch: serena williams... wonder woman. serena... wonder woman... serena... wonder woman... ♪ ♪ ace. advantage! you cannot be serious! ♪ ♪ get your tv together with the best of live and on demand. introducing directv stream with no annual contract.

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