there you are. really appreciate you bringing this to our attention. thank you for watching, stay tuned for nancy grace somewhere, the murdaugh >> approximately i think it is about 10,000 or so 12,000 could it be even higher? >> could be even higher. it is monday september 27th, a shocking admission by the biden administration, the vast majority of haitians camping out in del rio texas set free in the united states. and that number is expected to go higher. plus democrats are heading for a showdown as speaker pelosi votes on massive spending plan passed with progressive priority but will she be tiebl unite her party to pass it?

>>[inaudible conversations] with a lot of women and a lot of minnesota do what's bees for them first. put yourself first. >> and an emotional eulogy from gabby petito father as they gatter to say good-bye to woman who captured the nation and reward for capture hitting 30,000 dollars. you are watching "fox and friends first" on this monday morning i'm carly. >> i'm ashley todd and jillian have the day off but crisis at the border del rio migrant camp is empty after dhs secretary admittings more than 12,000 haitians have been released into the u.s. >> meanwhile mayor punishing border agents on horseback. alexandria hoff joins us live from washington with latest on this going story. alexandra good morning. >> questions about how the my graduates could be detained and

sent home and now most of them were not at least 12,000 have been relesioned into the u.s. here's our chris wallace pressing homeland secretary mayor. >> approximately i think it is about 10,000 or so 12,000 have been released. >> yes. >> are we talking about a total of 12,000 or could it be even higher? >> it could be even higher. now remember this plot of land under a bridge in del rio at one team a town for haitian migrants when it was cleaned up administration struggled to publicly clarify where all of the people went and issue now is the next point of entry. >> not only are we seeing caravan in southern mexico building up 20,000 but recent report of another haitian caravan in south america coming into panama so as long as the policies are still on the books gong to continue to see waves. speaking on policy the major distraction to the crisis has

been an investigation into the defense methods used by border patrol mounted officers. president biden said that they would pay for twirling their reign which is initially were mistaken for whips. knch the border patrol count on you and president biden who said people will pay? to come to an -- determination based on the facts? and not based on twitter outrage? they sure can. >> we will see about that. and coming up in our next half hour hear from retire acting use director tom holman whether he think this is investigation has been tainted by biden administration spongs and what he thinks about greg abbott offer to hire those border patrol agents. ladies back to you. >> that's good news for those agents that they have a job because governor says that he's gong hire them if they get fired. alexandria in washington thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate it. finally got the number --

finally. >> for a wild al has alejandro d he didn't know how many were in the united states immigration my grnts and over 12,000 have entered the united states but probably high or number than most expected and a lot of aid workers ashley who have been on the ground talking to people say that reason that haitian migrants are giving for coming into the united states all at once is because they say that they know that president biden is going to element them in. he's a good guy and they want to do it right now before the next president or something happens where they have to remain in mexico. and it is history as any indication, they are just going to stay in the united states a lot of these people -- that come over here. they don't end up making their court hear, and to they are now going to probably be among that group of people. j right, and then we want to get to this. this is the arizona attorney general mark, and he's basically

saying that biden decision when it comes to the border is matter of life and death. take a listen. >> secretary mayorkas can say what they wants but people are crossing into our country. we're on pace to have more than 2 million people illegally cross our border -- double the population of biden's home state of delaware that we're also see a huge spike in fentanyl and drugs like heroin coming in. cartels have ceased control and people are going to die as a result of the biden administration policies. >> carly when he talks about policies you touched on this briefly before that soundbite. what is this image and pictures and this news that people are saying around the world. what does that show everyone? it shows our borders are open even show biden administration said border is closed it is clearly not. >> no that's absolutely reeght and more people are expected to come dhs is monitoring 20,000

haitians coming from columbia, 3,000 from peru and 1-h500 from panama. and so we're in the middle of this boarld crisis, and the administration just banned one of the ways that the united states prevents people from coming here which is having border patrol on horseback because that twitter narrative that agents were whipping migrants and i love how mayor was on tap with jake yesterday, and jay tapper said flat out president biden said that he was gong to punish these border patrol he said they will pay so how can if agents are gong it pay you say there's an independent investigation? >> it is putting them against in a corner they can't do their job properly and tiewk former acting i.c.e. director coming up in this hour and we'll talk about that, and you know, they're trained, and something that he said they're trained to a

certain way like napgd is trained and police departments so when you were trained a certain way and enact you act on that training, you know what are you supposed to do? >> not backed by your administration. >> it is true when president biden said he's horrified by image of border patrol agents whipping migrants and it kind of reminded me what he said with georgia voting law he called jim crow on steroids it is easily proven law and the road a new york post op-ed saying that habit of lying is infecting entire administration. she listed examples in this op-ed she wrote and southern border is closed. you know it is not closed 14,000 people came over 12,000 just came over and that number is expected to rise border patrol agents on horseback. whipping haitian migrants also false, another lie. we will not leave afghanistan until every american is evacuated we know that at least 100 people, 100 americans are still there and then, of course,

drone attack with terrorists unfortunately 10 people died 7 of them children. hunter biden laptop list continues and cost of in thes 3.5 trillion social welfare bill is zero dolls that is not going to cost anything. already for 3.4 trillion o.c. not. >> sometimes you wound where lyings will stop blatantly lying. >> president trump was accused of league all of the time. but -- a lot of people voted for president bide because they wanted to get away from strfing of strfing -- stretching the truth and enjoy that list that we provided with you there courtesy of miranda devine. >> a vote on billion dollar bipartisan infrastructure vote to this thursday saying that vote just weren't there for a monday vote. take a listen. >> paying the bell before

tomorrow for consideration. but you know, i'll never bring your bill to the floor that doesn't have the votes. >> 50 members of the progressive wing of the democratic party vowing a no vote if pelosi doesn't first address 3.5 billion dollar social and climate bill an republicans calling it a crisis. >> this is a economic and political crisis of the democrats own making. right now, they're tempting to ram through this as you said over 5 trillion dollars of crippling tax hooks and expansion of the welfare state. >> pelosi will bring a government funding bill to house this week calling trio of bills a too many of intensity. meantime mark levin calls pelosi a power grab a disaster for the economy and hardworking americans. take a listen. >> the democrats are very good at ponzi schemes you know private sector if you're involved you go to prison for a very long team in public sector

if you've involved in a ponzi scheme you are righteous and compassionate. we american people this is going to change our lives. it may destroy or jobs. it may destroy or lifestyle. it can kill the economy. drive up inflation even further. these decisions that these democrats and their president are making are killing this country. >> and former white house chief strategist karl rove thinks left push for sweeping change will backfire at the polls. >> they think that if more robust transformational package they get better they'll be in master's degree term. throw the bill hail mary because they'll reward you if you pass a tax and spend bill reward you at the polls. now the problem with that is -- that's absolutely wrong. we saw this in recent memory. obamacare in 2010, oh we're going transform american health care system this doom them in

the 2010 election. so we're seeing this play out all over again whether they pass or don't pass it they're gong suffer and suffer mightily. andy goes on to argue the president's plunging approval rating that is reflect inability to deliver on he has campaign promises on to fox news alert a florida sheriff deputy shot twice has died. 29-year-old nassau county sheriff deputy josh died yesterday afternoon. his colleagues posting this heart felt tribute saying, quote, tonight we begin our first shift without you. tonight we put on a thanks and hide tears. we love and miss you. colegislation of organization and donors are offering $50,000 for information leading to the capture of shooter patrick mcdowell. federal investigators are on the ground to determine the cause of a deadly train derailment in montana. three people are dead and at least 50 more are recovering

after the crash saturday night amtrak empire builder line stretches from chicago to the pacific northwest. local first responders helped clear the grumble train cars and usher passengers to safety. more than one thousand mourners pay their respects to gabby petito as her father delivers an emotional eulogy comes as new dispatch video reveals laundrie in utah. >> marian joan us as fbi returns to laundrie's home. good morning. >> good morning carly and ashley that shedding light on whappedz leading up to disappearance and murder of gabby petito during utah police dispatch recording caller describes laundrie as the aggressor before petito is seen in tears while being questioned by police. >> states seeing a male hit a female domestic he got into a

white ford transit van, has a black ladder on back florida plate. >> now according to utah law, officers are required to make an arrest or issue citation when they have cause to believe domestic violence occurred instead police drove laundrie to hotel and there's no evidence he ever checked in. moab city officials are promising an investigation and likely disciplinary action against the officers involved. meanwhile gabby petito dad delivering a heartbreaking eulogy making emotional plea to others who may be in an abusive situation. >> if there's a relationship that you're in that might not be the best thing for you. leave it. higher -- and she's inspired a lot of women and a lot of men to do what's best for them first. put yourself first. >> on sunday fbi agents return to laundrie home to collect dna matching as person of interest

brian laundrie remains missing. law enforcement has been searching the carlton reserve it is a vast and inhospitality stretch of swampy lacked miles from the family's home. >> this is what you would ponged in that 25,000 acres. of the carlton reserve. there's no surviving out here. i don't know how to say -- there's no water supply. there's no fresh spring there's no possible way. >> the petito family plans to hold a news conference on tuesday. ashley, carly. >> marian thanks maryann. at least six people killed another 43 injured in city wide shootings in chicago this weekend. among the wounded a chicago police officer hit while trying to help another gunshot victim, and a paramedic who was grazed in the head also wheel working with a pearkt. it comes as philadelphia surpasses 400 homicide for the year after its own violent weekend of shootings.

>> south carolina senator tim scott is blaming democrats for congress inability to pass police reform saying their effort to defund police is causing the breakdown. take a listen. >> all big blue cities run by democrat mayors and supermajorities on their counsels decided not to act on behalf of their most vulnerable communities. so yes. they've all tried it to defund the police we want to refund the police because public safety is job one. president joe biden recently slain republicans claiming they reject modest reforms. the world health organization is reportedly looking into -- looking to revive its probe into the origin finance that covid-19 pandemic. wall street journal reports the new team is being assembled and follows the w.h.o. initial inquiry into first outbreak in wuhan new team main maybe

charged whether is originated from a lab despite pushback from chip on the theory. i can answer that one. [laughter] for the w ohio. congratulations to us the u.s. beats europe to take home the ryder cup. [inaudible conversations] dave mcafee. >> brian reaching green off that 3 0 yard opening tee shot in front of a rowdy home crowd. >> youngest usa team and handed europe worst lost ever at 19-9. >> how about that. time now 4:16 and one of newsom slating illegal immigrants be elected or appointed to very important state posts. we're talking to a leader of the effort to oust governor who says if you think california continue

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>> welcome back california governor gavin new in signing bill that empower illegal imrapts one of the bills allowed hem to serve on the county central committees for political parties. chairman of the reform california and leader of the newsom recall effort karl excuse me i'll get that right. you're joining us love to discuss the broader implications but before we discuss this. i want to know what this committee is and why it is so important depending on who is serving on it. >> well, each of the counties in california have something called a county central committee, and this is an elected body every county has an lent elected committee for the democrat and republican party. you run by assembly district. your name appears on the ballot people have to vote you in. and this is a county position

that is a four-year term and members on these committees are the ones that ultimately decide who gets the party endorsement for all offices in that county whether it be -- a candidate for running for u.s. senate, president, congress, or the state offices and local city council races. so what gavin newsom has done is not only has he normalized the notion that illegal immigrants should be able to run in an election in california starting with these county committees, but he's also geoffing a voice to illegal immigrants to tell us citizens who he should vote for which it comes time for the actual election. and so look they're starting small. but there's no doubt that this is a pattern of behavior ashley, in 2018, san francisco started letting illegal immigrants vote for school board races. last year, santa ana, california

in orange county legalized illegal immigrants serving on county city board of commissions. so legal immigrant could literally become a city commissioner in santa ana, and what they're clearly showing here is that they want illegal immigrants to vote. they're doing it in spring. they want illegal immigrants to serve on commission they're doing it in sang the ananow statewide gavin newsom normalized by serve on central comets it is outrageous. >> this is severely radical very far left and one of, you know, first thing city is doing after surviving that recall. but my question is, how much more radical can it get? because this just seems unimaginable. >> well maybe we can get an election in california that focuses on issues and his own -- failed record of newsom. what he was able to do in california and it was always a

david versus goliath fight is he raises 100 million dollars from his special interest backers. these elite special interest in the bay area, and in l.a. lobbyist in sacramento o.c. he had liberal media in california covering for him. so we actually didn't gets an election where wednesday focus on his records, and ashley, this would be one of the examples of a governor who is spending over backwards to cater to illegal immigrants but not taking care of citizens here in the united states. and it is a pattern that we've seen time and time again so i think what we're going to do is hit rock bottom we have further to fall in california sadly before people wake up. but i have a warning where california goes, so goes the nation. because joe biden and kamala harris and scwawtdz and nancy pelosi and chuck schumer they're merely proposing from the united states what california already has as law so if you want to see

a future of what america would like lie if biden pelosi were implemented come look at the third world nation that california has become -- where voting no longer is something that is special. it is basically given to anyone. that's very scary. you look at that as right to vote and you cherish that and now it is being made out to be will nothing. karl -- thank you so much for being with us this morning. we appreciate it. >> thanks ashley. >> okay time now is 25 minutes after the hour up next on the ground next with haitian refugee vow to come to america at whatever cost plus today is day that doctors and nrses at hospitals in new york must be vaccinated. the fears to believe to a staff shortage with life and death. life or death situations -- next.

welcome back pfizer ceo believes we are on the verge of normalcy but it isn't ruling out lifelong vaccination shot to protect people from covid. >> within a year,ening we would be able to come back to normal life. i don't think this means that will continue coming, and i don't think that this means that we should be able to live our lives without having immune without vaccinations basically. but let's begin that to be seen. pfizer booster shots cleared for certain people and expected to submit its vaccine data for five to 11-year-olds to the fda in the coming days. and massachusetts police union is sounding alarm after revealing dozens of state troopers have quit over the vaccine mandate. governor charlie baker is ordering state workers to be haven'ted by october 17th or facing fired a lawsuit to demand

thrown the recently about 20% of the police unions members are still unhaven'ted that's according to the boston harold. carly. carley: thanks ashley. new york city vaccine mandate by a federal appeal court judge and new york hospitals and nrsing homes bracing for mass i have staffing shore taming as nation most aggressive rules go into effect today. new york city teacher rachel and university of rochester medical centers dr. sarah klein join me to discuss. good morning to you both. >> good morning thanks so much for having me. carley: dr. klein i'll start with you so health care workers in state of new york have to receive at least one dose of vaccine by today. so -- what happens to those who refuse are they out of a job by today? >> well, i'm one of them so ms my last day of work sadly. yes. and then basically what i've

been told is after today i'm not allowed to enter the patient care area of my hospital anything i do for next few days has to be done remotely and i'll be receiving communication from the hospital about my termination by octobers 4th. carley: how do you feel about that fired because you refuse to get the vaccine and why did you choose to do this you're losing your job over it. >> i'm not ready for it and waiting for data tenge there are a lot of questions about reports and side effects of these vaccines. and so i would feel more comfortable with waiting and having a little bit more time make my decision. carley: now rachel you're a teacher in new york city and block requiring teachers to get vaccinated. how do you feel about that decision? >> well i think it is a good first step. we are cautiously optimistic at this point the hearing wednesday morning.

this is now gone through the first round of the system we did not receive an injunction the first time so now this is in appellate court and we have a few extra days it seems like a good first step so we're positive. carley: dr. klein you said today is your last days on the job because you aren't getting vaccinated and govan says that she's preparing for a staffing shortage. because you're not alone. 16% of new york state health care workers haven't been vaccinated. what happens to markets in new york with the staffing shortage governor says that she's will to call it a state of emergency call in medically train national guard but there are a lot of patients who are concerned about this. >> yeah. absolutely. to be honest, i don't know what kind of timeline she's on training national guards men and other health care providers from other yars. but in the short-term there's gong to be an issue with elected surgeries, our hospital is

putting them on pause starting today. and so anything that's been scheduled going but there are no additional cases. andening you you knowic marketse waiting weeks if not months for routine. >> so we're talking to women who are sort of on two opposite sides of this so -- doctor klein, you are going to be losing your job because of this, and rachel you're hoping that you won't have to get vaccinated if you aren't because of this federal judge that said that the mandate to get vaccinated has been put on pause. but the department of education is fighting against that. they say we're confident our vaccine mandate will continue to be upheld once all of the facts have been presented. so they say they're gong to fight it what's your reaction to that? >> i think that that is shameful of them. i think that they are not giving us a choice the exemption process has been --

for lack of a better term illegal. we are being really -- it is just our backs are against the wall our students are gong to be ones that are hurt in all of this. you know, if we're understanding that we've already been in the building for a few weeks, and we know that the vaccinated can spread this. just like the unvaccinated. so are we a public health threat or are we not? the only ones who are going suffer the teachers, of course, the daily employee, of course, but we're not thinking of the students with teachers taken away from them having their school safety agents now there's only one per school, and they have to work 12 hour days our custodians who are in charge of ordering and stockpiling ppe and clean and veghtlation system our kitchen staff. this is -- the doa is just shameful.

carley: all come down to personal choice, and not having the government force people to put something in their bodies that they don't want to. rachel dr. klein good luck to you both thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. j thank you for having me. carley: time now is 4:35 coming up border patrol agents are fuming after being target of a soft narrative spread by the left. >> this is biden administration deflecting from their failures to try to blame somebody else. they were going iejts doing the job he sent them out to do. >> retiring acting i.c.e. director tom has his own message with the white house. we're live next. hey hun hey, get your own vapors relax with vicks vapobath or with vicks vaposhower. take a soothing vicks vapo

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>> welcome back thousands of haitian migrants are flooding mechanics as they prepare to cross the u.s. border. >> griff jenkins is in mexico with an exclusive interview with one migrant who has a message for president biden. griff. >> carley, ashley we're in mexico southernmost city in mexico, so many migrants have been coming for years and officials say there's some 10,000 haitians many of the haitians did not get across in del rio nixon is one of those haitians. you have a message for president bide ?

j mr. president, please if you can help, all of the haitian people, it is the best option because the people haitians, suffer a lot, and -- >> how do you feel about haitians being deported by president biden? >> i think it is a bad decision. >> lastly will you trying to to the yeast? >> united states? >> i will try because it is my dream to be there. to have a better -- better life. >> most if not all of these folks will try to go to the united states because there's simply no jobs for them here. ashley, carley. >> griff jenkins for us there and dhs secretary revealing majority of haitian migrants e completelily crossing the boaferred in del rio released into the u.s. 17,400 who didn't return on their own to mexico how many of

them either -- well first how many have been released into the us? i think it is about 10,000 or so -- 12,000 have been released. yes. it could be even higher. joining us to react is fox news contributor retired acting i.c.e. director tom homan is that 10 to 12,000 number shocking to you and o.c. there at the end when he said that number could go up? >> yes. shocking to this much more and he knows that. because when he said the 800 will return to mexico went back to mexico he realizes they went one or two miles down lean and cam into the united states because they have resources to del rio they left 224 miles of border unguard sod 8,000 go to mexico won't live there. they wept down across illegally. those 8,000 are now in the united states and live here illegally. >> i want to pull this screen up about migrants processing status

12,400 cases heard by immigration gummings 5,000 are processed by dhs with and 3,000 are in detention so we've also heard that you know they've been given, you know -- this card and they have to show up to the courts and hearing. how do we know that they're gong to show up to those? they're just relying on them to walk in and show up and do the right thing. first when you say 12,000 immigrants they are not. that's what the secretary leads you to leave. but many of them were released on a report and it clearly says bottom of the form you're not, you're not in immigration proceedings. you won't be detained use is not detain you for humanitarian reasons. you are released so they're beginning to be an immigration proceed physician they chose to voluntarily show up and turn themselves in which most won't. so secretary given misleading

what you told chris wallace let me add one more thing they told chris wallace they lose their case and be deported here's a question to ask secretary mayorkas how about since you become secretary how many recent border crossings have i.c.e. arrest and deported the answer pretty close to zero that's next question as secretary needs to answer. >> right i want to get to this topic too because i know you're gone to have a lot to say about this and i know a lot of people and a huge talking point right now it is about the images that were released of border patrol agents that were being accused of -- essentially whipping them with their reigns. how does this make you feel being former director of i.c.e., and i mean they're trying to do that are job. and i read that you said that, you know, nypd is train aside certain way border patrol is a certain way and doing what they're trained to do, it is being -- basically, you know, twisted and

made them the to be, you know, the bad guys here. >> well look, this administration trying to change a narrative along with congress and trying to take attention away from failures out on southern border in open border policy. look, these -- let me be clear these border patrol did nothing wrong they didn't violate policy or break a rule they were doing their job. and if you don't believe me, i took nine retired chief patrol agents. i talked to two retired -- cdp commissioners. i talked to five chief of border patrol that were national same position that raul ortiz has now. every one of them. 100% of them said they didn't violate policy or regulation and they did their job and now under the bus by this administration it is a shame that men and women who wear that uniform, and put their lives on the line, for this country -- are now being attacked for doing their job. you know, president biden's

decisions secretary mayorkas put them in this position they did their job nobody wants to talk about fact that haitians are committing a cream entering country illegally it is a violation of a courtroom. it is a violation of title a -- united states -- and when they oppose when they resist arrest look you saw in the video that is a felony. title 18 united states called 111. but no one wants to talk about that crime being committed and lawn mower officers with the job to enforce that crime. stop that crime, are being attacked. it is -- it's my 35 years of government serves never seen administration that hates law enforcement more than this administration. you know, you're innocent until proven guilty. unless you're wearing uniform so shame on biden administration sham on this secretary, shame on the asking commissioner miller to attack the men and women doing their job putting their lives on the lean.

>> okay tom homan thank you for your take on that this morning. we really appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. coming up the search for brian laundrie intensifies as nation remembers life of gabby petito. she's inspired a lot of women and a lot of men to do what's best for them first. put yourself first. as thousands pay tribute to gabby people from all over the country are helping raise reward money to bring her family some closure that includes within of their neighbors and a former deputy police chief. we're talking to both. next.

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>> welcome back the man hunt for brian laundrie intensifying with up to $30,000 offered for tips on his whereabouts but one experience florida outdoorsman shares his doubts about laundrie's ability to hide in that carlton reserve. >> there's no surviving out here. i don't see anybody can make it out here -- for ten days, five days. there's no water supply. there's no fresh springs. just shrine here is 9 % underwater there's no place habitable. joining us now neighbor family jamie torres and former chief of

police for sarasota florida, good morning to both you both both have a size only chunk of your money into this $30,000 rewards and jerry i think it does a great idea. gives people incentive to talk so have there been any promising leads at this point? >> i haven't received any information on any leads at all which is just unusual and i think -- steve who has now can probably speak better to that but we haven't heard a thing and i'm deeply saddened that, you know, the family lost, you know, beautiful daughter. i have a daughter myself, and i raise her by myself after mother passed away of cancer many years ago. so i've just -- we're kind of waiting for baited breath to figure whether this guy is alive or left the country. j i'm so sorry for your loss as well and steve as former deputy police chief have you heard negative? >> no. carley thank you i've been in touch with the sheriff here and with north port police

department, and the fbi. they're doing incredible information, my message is jerry, thank you. put a reward money out there got this started i kicked in a little bit of money and there's more money being offered. being in police work for over 38 years, when you put this type of reward money out there, information is gong come forward. this is about -- this is about justice for gabby and all victims of domestic violence. laundrie may be hiding out there but someone know where is he is. family probably knows more information they're sharing. and, obviously, the police aren't sharing everything because they're working off leads. the reason why they're in this park is because that is the last known place he was. >> and you know steef the investigation is much beggar than just the carlton reserve yesterday fbi knocked on the laundrie door asked for a prnl item of britain's for dna

matching that seems like a significant development. what does that tell you about this case? >> well main thing and reason why existing work in relationship between sarasota county sheriff office and the sheriff, and north port police department is that this is a crime scene in wyoming and live in suffolk county new york and, obviously, here so it is important for information that they've gathered. they ceased mustang you've seen it back in the driveway. but they're trying to get as much information as they can to find to find this guy. >> yeah, and you know jerry thousands of people mourned the loss of gabby over the weekend, and her father joe path toe petito gave emotional eulogy take a listen to a portion of it. >> if there's a relationship

that you're in that might not be the best thing for you, leave it the entire planet knows this woman's name now and she's inspired a lot of men and women to do what's best for them first. put yourself first. family is trying to inspire those who may be in a bad relationship have you spoken to the family? i can't imagine how they're coping with this tragedy. >> no. no i have not. you know i'm trying to stay away. i don't to, you know, put pressure on them and ask them questions when they're not ready to answer any questions. so you know god bless the family. just feel so badly for them oddly enough my daughter qengt to the fbi. and she's a cyberforensic expert so she would be tracking if there was a digital footprint she would be tracking him at this point so that's one question i have is is there a dig tat foot precinct on hmm with a phone. >> that's a great question. there are so many other ways to track people other than just going physically out into this

wild life area that the police are talking about. jerry torres steve thank you so much for joining us with so appreciate it and putting minnesota to that $30,000 reward as well. >> carley thank you and this guy better give himself up if he can hear us because they're going to find him. >> absolutely. >> that's right. coming up in the next hour of "fox and friends first" nancy pelosi is pushing ahead with votes on president biden massive spengsding bills and torn through the democratic party. a live report, next.

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approximately i think it is 10,000 or so 12,000 could it be even higher. it could be even higher. >> it is monday september 27th, a shocking admission by the biden administration, the vast majority of haitians camping out in del rio, texas have already been set free in the united states and that number is expected to go higher. plus dem