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ne for veterans. lock in your rate. >> kayleigh: fox news alert. the biden agenda hanging by a thread. speaker pelosi displaying last night's vote on a bipartisan infrastructure bill as democrats turn on each other. and now, pelosi wants to take another stab at it. >> speaker pelosi -- how do you
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break this down? >> how disappointed are you that there is no vote tonight, madam speaker? >> kayleigh: that's the million-dollar question. this is "outnumbered" and i'm julie mcenaney. i'm here today julie banderas, carley shimkus, fox nation host tomi lahren and in the central virtual seat lawrence jones. fox news political analyst and fox news and friends enterprise reported. happy friday to all. the democratic divide couldn't get any whiter. and president biden's entire legislative agenda is at stake. progressives are digging in, refusing to vote for the infrastructure bill unless there is an agreement on a separate multitrillion spending bill. senator joe manchin is a key moderate who proposes the larger proposal. he is set to hash out an agreement if and only if the
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price tag comes down. reporters asked him last night when there might be a deal. >> we are working hard. what was the message to you in that meeting? >> and that's the need for a lot of people. >> he suggested the spending bill top out at $1.5 trillion but the far left for aoc, they were less than impressed. >> here's the thing. there are a lot of games being played. at which and senator are we negotiating with? is it the june mentioned or september manchin? >> you all don't deserve the investment climate. you all don't deserve climate.
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>> we've been waiting for an effort to counter those three and a half trillion that's on the table but we don't have anything to say about numbers. there is no number on the table and i'm not negotiating it. >> what a mess this is, my goodness. pelosi told me, and he said he would be popping champagne mom last night and that didn't happen. i want to play a sound bite for you from pelosi talking about just how important this is to her. let's roll the tape. >> i just told numbers of my leadership that the reconciliation bill was a culmination of lies. >> this is a culmination of your time -- culmination means the end of an era. >> get out of here.
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>> julie: are we looking at a lame duck speaker here? >> tomi: i believe so but i'd like to go back to vintage nancy pelosi where she told us we had to pass the bill before we knew what was in it. i think it's important that the american people know what was in this bill and what their tax dollars are being spent on. i think it's so funny when we see representatives say who are we taking the money from? i have to laugh at that because i have the same question, who are they taking the money from? the answer is we, the american taxpayer. there's so much in here if the american real people really knew what it was him with a responding on they would just be us for met in denying this. i have to give her a huge round of applause, obviously she's a democrat but she is standing firm and she's doing very well in purple arizona because of it. as much as this seems like a tough time in our country, and the fact that there is a $15 trillion bill on the table anyway including things like 3 billion for tree equity, i do have to say i see a light at the
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end of the tunnel because i think there are some true moderate democrats still left. they are willing to stand their ground because they know they have elections coming up. they want to win those elections and they want to make those people happy, and they don't want their tax dollars wasted on tree equity. >> i hope that's the case. i'd love to believe that the democrats will stand strong, at least a few of them. but tommy is exactly right. that's democratic party's and let's pass 1.9 trillion at the beginning of the year and another 2 trillion at the end of the year, seven infrastructure package right in between and that's now the moderate position of the democratic party. >> lawrence: i have to say, i'm enjoying every bit of this. and that's how we really got here, because he talks out of
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both sides of his mouth. i didn't really know what the moderate was, and then he gets his office and appeals to the progressives and he says he's going to be the most progressive president of our time. so now you have a conflict because he's appealed with both the moderate and the progressive. at the end of the day he has no political capital and they see the polling, they see the president is in crisis mode, it's a complete mess and inflation is out of the roof. you have both sides of the democratic party that are really taking control and saying they will do whatever they want to do and they should. i wish there were more political debates in washington like this and not allowing party leadership to set the agenda. both sides should be duking it out and letting the american
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people know where they stand on the issue. at the end of the day nothing is going to get done. joe biden is done and it will be mature and season. it's the mess that is in the white house right now. >> julie: leaving joe manchin to be the most powerful man in the world it seems. currently, i love the games they play on capitol hill where we all saw that it did not pass on thursday. we were all up until 11 or 12 waiting for this thing and it didn't happen, they claim it would on thursday. >> yes, jake sherman of punch bowl, they nailed it. and that's the same legislative day leading jake to say this,
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it's a legislative maneuver to call today the same day as yesterday, but what it can do is make sense. yesterday is the day, today is the day. >> i was at the congressional baseball game earlier this week, and i asked him what's going to happen with reconciliation and what's going to happen with the infrastructure bill? it's like why are you asking us? this is a democrat issue and the party may be irreparably divided. that's a huge problem within the caucus and when you think about it, they are united when it comes to foreign policy, and it's really two parties in one. and lawrence is absolutely right. america voted for joe biden and what do both progressives have in common?
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this $3.5 trillion deal has reshaped america as anger prints all over it, cradle to grave spending and on top of that free community college, you can't forget that one. >> julie: jen psaki rationalized it all for us. it is what she retweeted from the esteemed "new york times." the economic spending bill are economic packages that serve moral and cultural purposes. they should be measured by cultural impact, not merely by some wonky analysis in real tangible ways. and they would increase inflation and these are cultural purposes. don't worry. >> carley: jen psaki also said the end policy as a fighting democracy at work. democracy at work is not getting anywhere.
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and as for aoc as a politician, she needs to brush up on politicking because for her to attack members of her own party as viciously as she does, to scoff and a laugh when asked about joe manchin's $1.5 trillion, that is not going to bring joe manchin and kyrsten sinema to the far left table. and that's not getting someone to negotiate by attacking him, and i think aoc needs to be reminded that she's not actually wrestling in a mud wrestling ring, as much as i would love to see her covered in mud from head to toe, i'd buy a ticket to see that. but that's not mudslinging. and if somebody made a good point, republicans are all on the same page and that's what you need to see within the
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party. >> aoc couldn't name the three branches of government so i totally agree. get back to the books, alexandria ocasio-cortez. newly released body cam footage shows gabby petito making a stunning revelation in her fight with her fiance, brian laundrie. that it raises questions about that it raises questions about warning signs that were rates missed.n so veterans can save thousands. overwhelmed by the ups and downs of frequent mood swings of bipolar i? ask about vraylar. some medicines only treat the lows or highs.
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in the video, a tearful gabby tells police that brian did assault her. >> we want to know the truth, if he actually hit you. >> i guess, yeah, but i had him first. >> rated he hit you? >> did he slap your face? >> he had grabbed me like with his nail and i guess that's why. >> julie: meanwhile we are learning there were at least 46 police requests in recent weeks including the day before gabby was reported missing. that's according to a trove of police records obtained by a fox digital. let's go to the panel. and the only reason, and she
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then attests to the fact but then she once again, because that's what battered women do, they accept the blame and accept the responsibility. i can't imagine how devastating it is for gabby's parents to this video and see how this ultimately played out and not place blame somewhere. >> kayleigh: it has to be devastating and they have to be asking questions like why wasn't she protected after an admission that she had hit her. we know one thing, julie, and the one thing we know with all these puzzle pieces coming together is that brian laundrie was angry. there's a report from yellowstone, a man who said he saw brian alone at the end of a bar. he talked about stupid subs a southerners unused expletives about republicans, he got angry again and when he hitchhiked with that tiktok user that posted the video, we know there
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was a fight in the tex-mex restaurant. these are all reports we put together where brian stand mike and stormed out four times and gabby apologized for him. and gabby's friend has been on the record saying we had location services turned on for one another, and he forced her to turn it off. we know one thing, brian was angry and possessive and it it's a devastating video to see. >> julie: currently, you've been covering this story and there are so many unanswered questions. one, why was brian laundrie in possession of gabby's phone, why was he preventing her from getting into the van? why did his family dodged dozens of phone calls from police after he returned and why did he return without gabby? the questions go on and on and i don't feel the questions were fully answered by body cam video. >> carley: there are several big things we learned this week. one of them is the new body
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camera footage and the other is a fact that brian laundrie bought a cell phone after he came back from the cross-country road trip. the other thing is the fact that the family went on this trip to fort soto parker, seems like a very odd time to do a fun family activity when one of the people that were living in your house for two years was missing. but to get to the body camera footage, it's an extension of something we already knew in the original body camera footage released last month. gabby said the same thing. she said that she had brian and brian grabbed her face, grabbed her cheeks. it was sort of decided that that was a defensive move on his part. and police decided she was the primary aggressor because she was so adamant that she had him first and that he had visible scratches on his face. so there's an investigation going on into whether or not police to the right thing and we will let that play out. the other thing i want to say quickly as the cell phone. does it seem like normal parent
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behavior to you that brian, this is the story that the parents are telling police. brian goes on this hiking trip, it's gone for three days and doesn't take his new cell phone with him, and they waited to call police. i think most parents, my mom would be in that alligator infested water with pool goggles on looking for me. she wouldn't wait three days to call police so there's clear questions on that front. >> julie: there's no question in anyone's mind that brian laundries parents no more than they do. there is no reason to ignore police phone calls after your future daughter-in-law turns up missing and your son has her van. so utah law makes it very clear that the primary duty of law enforcement obviously is to protect domestic violence victims but number one job for police officers porting to a call such as this is to figure out how, who their aggressor is.
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it's to separate the two parties involved in separate with the aggressor was. in the police report, she was the aggressor. she set it on this program and that's what the police report stated. that stated on the 911 call and know her admitting that she was hit. i don't understand how they walked away labeling gabby as the aggressor. >> lawrence: i think we have to be very careful here because we are piecing all of this together after the fact. first of all, i think it's important for the audience to know that domestic violence calls are the most violent calls dangerouscalls for law enforcemo to. and based on the law and based on that situation that we know so far, the officers did their job. she would be ruled the aggressor
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and she has admitted to be the aggressor. she then defended him. now that is typical behavior that happens in domestic violence especially when there are women, they tried to cover for the men but she would have went to jail. i know that's hard to stomach right now after the fact, but that happens so often. and i think right now, what we have to do is figure out going forward, because of the rising issue. >> julie: had she gone to jail, she be alive today. >> kayleigh: we don't know that. >> lawrence: they decided to separate the two. but based on what the cops were given at that point in time she was a aggressor. she was based on what she admitted herself. i just think it's a dangerous thing after the fact to try to litigate. >> julie: it's an extremely difficult position for police officers to respond to something like this, they didn't see anything and they are going on what witnesses said end of story from brian. you saw him come in very cold,
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cool and calm and believable quite frankly. so how do they decide whether he's telling the truth or not. some of the cues with the police officer actually bonding with brian during that hour, what would you make of that assessment? >> kayleigh: we have to wait and see this all unfold but i think it's clear, allegedly brian is the one that is to blame. we can talk about things i could've been done better but i also think that we as a nation can learn from this. there are so many young girls that have gone through relationships like this that have gone through situations like this, not always ending in murder but sometimes ending and abuse whether physical or psychological. so i think as a nation watching that's what we can do is talk to our daughters and talk to our sons, and as friends we can check up on our other friends who might be in a relationship that's toxic like this. we can learn from this, see the
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warning signs and maybe prevent something like this from happening to somebody. >> lawrence: and where are all the parents with all of this? she was living with them, and i'm not trying to be insensitive here but this seems like a long pattern and it doesn't seem like anyone stepped into save this girl. because this is what happens in a long time. >> and friends will attest to the fact that they had a turbulent relationship to say the least and i agree with carly that it doesn't necessarily mean if she had been a lot arrested actually be alive today. but of course you know that gabby's parents are thinking those thoughts and there's no way to predict how this would've turned out differently. we'll go to a break and come right back. coming up, another wave of illegal immigrants heading north to the u.s. the warnings officials in central america are saying the biden administration has ignored for months as dhs announces new limits on just what i.c.e.
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>> kayleigh: the biden border crisis still showing no signs of slowing down. the panama former minister says 60,000 migrants may be heading north to the u.s./mexico border. she also says she's warning leaders including president biden and amid all of this, homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas -- a basis for deportation and he says the overriding question is whether noncitizen as he puts it as posing a threat to public safety. carly, i was stunned and horrified as i read about the journey that some of these
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migrants makes her panama. it is gruesome. they go through the darien gap which is a 66-mile spread essentially of jungle and there are poisonous snakes and spiders, all kinds of peril that they go through. it dehydration, and not all of them make it through. i'm going to pop some of that up on the screen because i want viewers to know exactly the trip that migrants are taking. and we will get to this. but, that's migrants that made it through. and this is being incentivized e united states federal government. >> carley: those are horrifying and tragic images and that's what people are willing to do. alejandro mayorkas is sticking to the line that the border is closed and at the same time
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telling dhs agents not to deport people just because they are here illegally. so essentially, don't do your job. the mayor of laredo, texas, he's a democrat. he used to be against the border wall and he says call it whatever you want to call it but it was working. and the losers are people living along the southern border with taxpayers, and taxpayers pay between $779,000,017,000,000 per year for hospital care for illegal immigrants. also, illegal immigrants who don't make it into the country. and the winners are of course the people who come here that are allowed to stay.
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and it democrats who this is a political issue four, and they say these people as a pipeline of future voters for them as well. and that's what this ends up being what this is all about. >> kayleigh: it went from 1900 in january to 30,000 in august, why do you think that is? >> tomi: it's because we are inviting them practically. and we have a new dhs directive which is killing me was just telling i.c.e. agents that immigration status alone should not be the basis for deportation and let me go on. under the new guidelines that are set to take effect, agents are distracted, constructed to determine whether the severity of the client crime warrants deportation. severity of the crime. it isn't illegally crossing the border a crime and of itself?
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so much for deterring the flood of illegal that we are seeing, so i'm not surprised, and by two months from now it's not going to be 100,000. it's going to keep going. to see the video in the picture is actually of the babies in these carrying apparatuses on their parents chest as they are crawling through these dangers, that in of itself it's a human crisis. the administration is looking at these images and saying, come on in. >> kayleigh: exactly. i know the trump administration warned biden about this and you know i panama foreign minister david, the mexican president, and everyone seems to get it except joe. >> kayleigh: we know this but i would also say going back to our great formal president
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donald trump, he was able to look at the other nations that should also be responsible for their borders and say you guys need to do your part. he said you guys need to do your part and if you don't i'm going to slap a tariff on you. my next question for the biden administration would be why don't you speak to these other leaders and say when you guys secure our borders so we don't have to secure our hours, you can secure yours and then we wouldn't have this problem, we wouldn't have this mass migration coming through, and their job to get criminal aliens out of this country is already difficult if not impossible enough, and now with these new directives, you might as well say terminal aliens and illegal immigrants, the door is open and the american taxpayer, you foot the bill. >> kayleigh: that's what we call magnets. meanwhile if you look at these afghan refugee facilities, and
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they don't seem to be too good at immigration. a >> lawrence: i have to talk about what tomi just said. part of the reason it didn't happen is because joe biden broke the remaining mexico policy and no mexico has nothing to do with this on this issue. they are saying the illegal migrants making their path to mexico, that's why you don't see any tips, they are pushing them right into the united states and they don't want to work with the biden administration. they just got back from del rio last week and all of them are democrats. all of the surrounding areas and this might be the next issue for election.
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and that's hurting communities everywhere. that's the same path that they are using to get these migrants, and that's the same way we get drugs into the country and that's why 40% of the drugs in this country, and it's killing our population. >> kayleigh: so many good points packed in there. that was a tailwind of trump's presidency and it was the issue, and now here we are again. the vice president's staff trying to clean up after her controversial exchange with a college student over israel. iran uses it for propaganda against our longtime middle eastern ally.
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>> it hurts my heart because -- your perspective and your experience in your truth. it must be heard. >> that's what she just said to the student, your truth. that exchange with the george mason comic mason student apparently has vice president, harrison damage control mode. that smooths over her lack of pushback. meanwhile, iran is always ready to abilify israel and has jumped on the story with state owned media outlet press tv posting the exchange on twitter. lawrence, wow. if you cry iq is our greatest
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ally, kamala harris does, of and now all of a sudden the background of your staff is to do cleanup on aisle five. >> lawrence: a couple things here. i hate the phrase "your truth." i really do. it's up to cover up for saying, i really don't agree with what you're saying, but i will say "your truth so i don't offend the next person. harris is not a prepared for the job, she's a political chameleon etiquettes are in trouble a lot. she's often not prepared for these moments which is why she is a first person out of the presidential primary and if i'm the biden administration, stop sending her out. i know she was there to bolster the ticket and to appeal to certain segments of the population, but she is not ready for this off script she makes mistakes. and i don't think she believes what she was saying right there, but again, when you are a political chameleon and you have
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no political compass, you will agree with anything. >> julie: for sure. and you're right, i hate your truth but here's the truth. israel is not committing dumb, even going to the point of anti-semitism with ilhan omar and all about the benjamins, and that they have big issue here. >> i do think there is a lot of anti-israel sentiment within the democrat party but i do agree with lawrence, i don't believe that, harris really went to abilify israel. but i agree with lawrence, i don't think she knows how to answer a question. she doesn't know how to think on her feet or act appropriately, she's not prepared to, ready for this role. at this is what happens when she chooses someone as a vice president because she's a woman of color and nothing else.
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press conference at the top of the hour, this bill leading to major pieces of president biden's economic agenda jeopardy. karl rove is here to react, and here's how the bills could reshape america. we will talk to chad wolf on that migrant caravan making its way to the u.s. and brand-new developments in the gabby petito case. we will break down the newly released bidding, cut body cam video. join us on "america reports" at the top of the hour. ♪ ♪ >> julie: katie couric burning bridges with her new tell-all memoir. "the today show" host rips into colleagues and she chooses to take it easy on her former cohost matt lauer calling him a decent man. writing it felt heartless to abandon him after his firing.
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i grew up, and they have completely tarnished these reputations and came across as a mean girl. putting down other women, but yet propping up a man who she not only knew, but she even talks about the fact that the wife -- and she writes about that probably. i hate the tell all that came out during the trump administration, it's just wrong. i do like however that she burned to prince harry, that he reeked of cigarettes and
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alcohol. i'm not a prince harry fan. and i had some deja vu because i'm watching the morning show, really interesting series and it's very reminiscent of this, because the female host ends up feeling the most, remorse. i have to wonder if it was all modeled after that? >> a woman in this business, i don't even want to say how many years. it's close to the anniversary of fox news channel, i have to say this, and and i have made it a mission to train women who are rising in the ranks, the future journalists. i volunteer at it, taken
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interns, and that's what women in this business should be doing. and it so quick to try to squash the competition. >> you bring up such a good point. she softly had an incredible career and she has a story to tell that some people may want to read it, but if you read the summary of the book and what's been released right now, at sounds like there will be 500 pages of those criticizing those who she feels that her dirty. it comes off nicer even than what the highlights are. she did say that she was unwelcoming to other women because she felt like she needs to protect her turf and she writes that she was aware that someone younger and cuter was always around the corner. julie, thank you for being such a nice person. my experience here at fox news, when people say what's it like working there and who's your favorite person, i say literally everyone. i feel so grateful that i
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haven't had the experience here at this network. >> carley: lawrence, fortunately you don't have to deal with mean girl stuff but it's real and starts at a young age. she is setting the worst example for bullies in school and watching women who are rising up and in her moment of power, you're supposed to exercise humility and show a a positive message young girls, i don't know. i will not be reading this book. i'm not going to give her the business. >> lawrence: i don't know about the mean girl stuff but i do know what it feels like to be a young man in the industry. but i'm grateful to have people like sean hannity and dana perino who took me under their wing instead of beating me down. but i was also raised to not burn any bridges, even if you think you're right. she seems like she has a philosophy to let the bridges
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i've burned let my path. and i think she just wants to get it off her chest. more power to you. but we are going to have an empty funeral. >> julie: what incentive do you think she had sitting at home and she decided i'm going to burn every single bridge i've ever built in my entire career good idea. >> kayleigh: i think she wants a best-selling book. i think that's what it comes down to. this is an opportunity and i'm going to sell a lot of books, blow up the industry and talk about what i've seen. to some extent, that might be interesting to others but i'm going to piggyback on what you ladies just said. for those who have talked about fox news, it's really a wonderful environment. and i think that we should set the example and i'm glad we do that every day. >> julie: i've been here 16 years and i've never honestly dealt with that mean girl stuff
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