my tip for democratic nominee 2024, gavin newsom. nominee 2024, gavin newsom. jillian: it is monday, october 4th. all hands on deck to secure the border, the steps being taken in texas to prepare for the next wave of migrants. todd: america on edge as the search for brian laundrie continues, we talk to the man who swears he encountered the fugitive over the weekend. jillian: new york city is looking for thousands of substitute teachers as public school vaccine mandates go into effect today and taxpayers are set to pay a premium for them. todd: you're watching "fox & friends first." i'm todd piro. jillian: i'm jillian mele. let's look at the white house as

the president hits the road today as the democrats' $3.5 trillion reconciliation bill stalls in the house. todd: the fractured democrats say they will find a way to agree on the price tag somehow. lauren. >> reporter: good morning. it's back to the white house for president biden after a weekend home in delaware. the focus is raising the debt ceiling. tomorrow in michigan he'll turn towards pressuring lawmakers to pass trillions in spending. >> the president wants both bills. he expects to get both bills. nancy pelosi said they're going to pass both bills and we believe that. this piece of legislation costs zero. we're going to pay for it all by raising taxes on the very wealthy and big corporations. >> reporter: last week the president planned -- the planned vote on the infrastructure bill was delayed and delayed again. democrats can't agree on the final size of the $3.5 trillion build back better bill. >> this is not about a team.

it's about individual sort of preferences. both of these bills need to pass. both will not pass if people try to separate them. >> reporter: progressives are increasingly angry with moderate senators against the social spending bill. joe manchin says he wants a number closer to 1.5 trillion. he was surrounded by protesting kayakers on his houseboat in d.c. kyrsten sinema was followed to the bathroom by an immigration activeist. >> we knocked on doors for you to get you elected. like we got you elected we can get you out of office if you don't support what you promised us. >> reporter: nancy pelosi says she wants the delayed infrastructure vote by the end of the month. republicans warn a halloween deadline will be scary for more than one reason. >> on halloween, that is going to be the next vote on this package that should be scary to every family in america because it would raise taxes that every

family would pay, not just the rich. >> reporter: senate republicans want the true price tag. they saythe claim that it will o is reckless and wrong. todd: conservatives predict the gridlock on capitol hill will turn into a political nightmare for the president and say he's shifted dramatically on the issues since the campaign. >> when he went to the hill, 2020 joe biden is officially dead and buried. the guy who ran against the progressives and bernie sanders and elizabeth warren, ran to be uniter in this country, ran saying he was going to force compromise and he went up to capitol hill and he capitulated to the progressives, liberals in the party. why should we be surprised? he couldn't stand up to the taliban. how could expect him to stand up to aoc. >> the moderate agenda is at least the american agenda, let's

get things done for the people, let's not do major philosophical changes that are going to ruin our lives. the left knows we don't want what they're selling. that's why they've got to jam this in now. we are going to fire them next year and they know it and they've never cared. todd: a new poll by the associated press shows the president's approval rating by members of his own party. four minutes after the hour now. thousands of teachers set to lose their jobs today as the vaccine mandate as dr. anthony i sparks controversy with comments on whether we can gather for christmas. jillian: jackie ibanez joins us with more on when the country can return to normal. i bet there are a lot of opinions about christmas time. >> reporter: dr. fauci previously suggested the holidays could go on as scheduled this year as a more

americans get vaccinated. his latest comments suggest he's open to pushing back the goal post. >> we can gather for christmas or it's too soon to tell? >> it's too soon to tell. we have concentrate on continuing to get the numbers down and not try to jump ahead by weeks or months. >> reporter: so frustrating for many. the president's top medical 5d r -- medical advisor praising the experimental merck pill. fauci warned americans shouldn't wait to get vaccinated because they believe they could take the pill. >> that's such a false narrative. the easiest way to stay out of the hospital and not die is don't get infected. i mean, this idea about which have a drug, don't get vaccinated just doesn't make any sense. >> reporter: meanwhile, the vaccine mandate in new york city's public schools takes effect today leaving thousands of unvaccinated teachers on

unpaid leave and forcing others to he resign with severance. the city's department of education is looking to hire nearly 3700 substitute teachers. esl teacher nicole broker is one of those educators who won't get paid and she joined "fox & friends weekend" with her message for city officials. >> they did not give us enough time to figure out what we could do if we decided not to go along with this mandate. i don't understand why i could go in for three weeks and now i'm a public health threat. >> reporter: across the country in california, critics are taking aim at governor ga a vin newsom's new vaccine mandate for students, the first state to require the covid-19 shot for kids with no testing exceptions. todd, jillian. todd: we have a lot of interesting guests coming up on all those topics later on in our show. jillian: congressman steve scalise has this to say about vaccine mandates forcing

americans out of their jobs. >> even with antibodies about covid we're going to get you fired from your job? hospitals we started see numbers very alarming, hospitals that are seeing thousands of their employees leave, some are firing their employees. you saw it with police officers. i guess liberals don't care about this because they want to defund the police but you're seeing a lot of police department where they're putting mandates in place where the police officers are just quitting the job. the military goes after our men and women in uniform. we should be encouraging people to get the facts on the vaccination, not to threaten and shame them and kill their careers and livelihoods all over that. jillian: scalise added it's outrageous that migrants coming to the u.s. illegally don't have to worry about getting a covid test or get vaccinated. a deadly bombing at a mosque in afghanistan's capital. .todd: this comes as aide

experts say president biden's rushed withdrawal left more than 1,000 afghan allies behind. benjamin hall joins us with the latest. >> reporter: what we're starting to see in afghanistan could be the beginning of what so many people warned about, without the u.s. in there, with the taliban in control, the country could quickly slip into chaos, slip into civil war. this attack took place yesterday, sunday, outside the mosque in kabul, at least eight civilians were killed. isis-k are the key suspects. these attacks only compound problems for the taliban. if they can't offer security, if they don't pay salaries or electricity supplies, the country could be plunged into darkness and still stuck out there could be as many as 100,000 afghan allies. there are reports now that american officials stopped many

pre-screened afghans and some u.s. residents from boarding aircraft during that chaotic withdrawal. the white house is being you accused of further spin. >> the generals never said this was an extraordinary success. that is all spin coming from the white house and jen psaki. they say, hey, wait a minute, we said they needed to keep 2500 troops. so biden was wrong. >> reporter: meanwhile, back in the u.s., 300 marines from the second battalion first marine regiment returned from their deployment as part of a special crisis response that helped the evacuation. tragically, 10 marines from this unit were among those killed in the bombing at the airport. so certainly mixed emotions for those soldiers coming home. they're back with their families. 10 of their brothers and sisters in arms are not. todd and jillian. jillian: benjamin, thank you. todd: gordon chang weighing in on the secret phone calls that mark milley made to his chinese

counter part in the final days of the trump administration. here's his take. >> i think the chinese military and political leadership thought the united states was in complete disarray and terminal decline and that would have made the chinese, and i think it will make them more aggressive, more belligerent, because they think the u.s. will not be able to oppose them. we just don't know how the chinese reacted but whatever it was, i'm sure this did not work to the benefit of the united states. todd: this weekend waves of the chinese fighter jets entered taiwan's air defense zone. u.s. calling on beijing to stop the provocative fly-byes. jillian: an unidentified victim is shot and killed in a shooting 59 a philadelphia hospital. the gunman fled the scene in a u-haul but was tracked down by law enforce machine. the suspect wounded two officers in a shootout before being shot and taken into custody. the two cops were hospitalized and are expected to survive

their injuries. todd: texas national guard gearing up to block an increased number of cara vans you atementzing to cross -- atempting to cross the southern of border. >> when you overlay a global pandemic with in haiti the earthquake and the assassination of the leader, the economic crisis in the region and it's only getting worse. some of it is inducement from the biden administration policies and traffickers using that to message to people in the region come on up, come on up. jillian: governor greg abbott tweeting this video of the tactical vehicles used to transport equipment and personnel to the texas border amid the ongoing crisis. todd: landmark rulings from the supreme court on guns, religious freedom and you abortion expected soon as they begin a new term today. in december they will hear arguments challenging a mississippi law that bans

abortions of unborn babies over 15 weeks old, also cases about concealed weapon laws. to the nfl we go, tom brady getting a lot of love in his big return to new england. >> brady! brady! brady! todd: they were saying brady, brady, brady, if i'm reading the subtitles correctly. brady making history against his former team, becoming the fourth quarterback to beat all teams, the bucs defeated the pacs. america, did you see this, let me just watch it. there we go. the giants --

jillian: it's 4:15 in the morning. todd: the giants picking up their first win of the season, overtime victory over the saints. jillian: patrick mahomes threw five touchdown as the chiefs bounced back from last week's loss defeating the philadelphia eagles 42-30. the buffalo bills in a blow-out, 40-0, holding the texans to only 109 yards of total offense. todd: our producer john a big bills fan. i say it every week when the bills win, john, i think your team is going to the super bowl. jillian: oh, come on. todd: mark it right now, my prediction, bills. jillian says no. mark the tape. here we go. new york school staffers will stand guard outside school billings today with a list of

colleagues who are banned for not being vaccinated. jillian: joe concha and congressman mike waltz join us live on this busy monday morning. ♪

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jillian: welcome back. new york city school vaccine mandate takes effect today. the department of education reportedly advising principals to prepare a list of exiled employees. todd: they write in the event of an escalation, principals may ask for support from the school safety agent assigned to the building that day. here to react, michael cain. i'm trying to get a visual of how this is going to go down in a few hours. how kai ottic -- chaotic could the scene at the doors get? >> i don't anticipate there will be any problems from staffers that are unvaccinated. some people might be coming to say hey, look, i'm ready, willing and able to work and if they're turned away they're going to go away peacefully. the chaos is going to be inside those schools when they don't have the proper staffing. we just saw an a e-mail from ufc

president michael bolger stating all of the rules we're allowed to break now because they don't have the staff. jillian: there are a number of people who filed for exemptions, different ones, whether it be religious, whether it be medical. you are one of them who filed a religious us exemption. your appeal has not been decided by the arbiter is what i'm understanding. if that's the case, i imagine you're not the only one. so why do you think this wasn't handled with these decisions figured out before this deadline of today? because it seems like that's going to make things a little bit more chaotic. >> of course. the new york city department of education is notorious for last minute situations like this. when they sent me my e-mail about my hearing date, they had about 40 people on the e-mail including 25 other employees. this is supposed to be a confidential e-mail. they couldn't even get that right. i'm not surprised about the lacking in any of this.

todd: the school system said they have 9,000 vaccinated subs and 5,000 aides at the ready. michael, again, i've been well out of school for decades now. i don't know how all this works. how are they finding these, quote, unquote, qualified people, this many of them, ready to go at the drop of a hat? i don't understand that. >> we'll see what happens in the days ahead of us. i'm not buying it. i don't think they have this covered. i know for a fact principals were having anxiety aattacks all of last week about what's coming on. there was one principal quoted in the new york post that said they must be smoking crack if they think have all of these substitutes. but you know, we've got to see how it plays out. my group, teachers for choice right now, is filing a restraining order this morning, i just talked to my attorney, we're in the process of filing this morning on the grounds that the exemption process was illegal and unconstitutional.

so hopefully we will be able to get some relief for all of the teachers out there, and not just teachers, security officers, school aides, so many brave people out there that are just locked out. we were the heroes last year. i was teaching in person last year while many of my colleagues had accommodations working completely remotely. now they want to get rid of us. jillian: we were talking about the religious and medical exemption process being illegal and unconstitutional. could you explain a little more about how. >> one of the things that shocked me is that the largest education system in the country has no idea what the establishment clause of the first amendment is. the establishment clause says the government cannot create, establish a religion, nor can it dictate what is or is not in an established religion. they require that we provide a letter from an established religion to verify our own personal religious beliefs. it's blatantly illegal. i believe the courts are going to see that.

i don't think any of the other cases prior to us made the argument that's we're going to be arguing so our tarns are very kv -- our attorneys are very confident today. jillian: i know two other restraining orders were dissolved in september. we would like to follow up on that and see where this goes. thank you for joining us this morning. >> thanks for having me. todd: time now, 22 minutes after the hour. woke politics taking over college campuses. our next guest says it's getting so bad he quit his job over it. he's going to share a reality check for parents about what their kids are really learning. jillian: pop star pitbull is sharing this pro-america message. >> if you don't like the united states of america, go back to the country where you're from and you'll see how much you appreciate the united states of america. jillian: more from mr. worldwide who is calling on critics of the red, white and blue. ♪ i just want to feel this moment. ♪ whoa oh, oh,

jillian: good morning. welcome back. the campaign of virginia democratic candidate terry mccalliffe is brushing off his endorsement. a spokeswoman responded shortly after glen youngkin was endorsed. this nonpartisan group previously endorsed mcauliffe's run for governor. it backed ralph northam during his 2017 run. todd: colleges across the country adopting woke policies and educators caught in the middle. our next guest was so fed up, he quit his job as an assistant philosophy professor. he joined me now to explain. what was the final straw for you? >> the final straw was a long

road but the final straw was when i couldn't get a meeting with the president of portland state university. i met with one of the deans. and i told the dean that according to the foundation for individual rights in education, portland state university in 2020 made one of the worst colleges for free speech in the top 10 list and the dean said to me it's a good thing to be on those lists. it was that instance that i realized that this is not a bug in the system, this is a feature, and i had to leave. todd: take a look at what's going on across the country. this is just a senatorring. university of michigan, 82 diversity officers, western washington university, black only housing, and columbia university, separate graduation ceremonies. what's to be gained by pitting students against one another? >> well, you have to remember, todd. these are offices in search of tasks. so their original purpose was legal compliance but they've

moved office of diversity, equity and inclusion, they've moved beyond legal compliance. now they're departments of ideological enforcement. so you have a system, the system is no longer -- it's lost its original purpose which is to find truth. it's no longer finding truth. it's diversity, equity and inclusion and the ideologies that go along with that. grievance based ideologies. todd: if i'm a parent out there, do the benefits outweigh the harm of sending my kid to college anymore. just a few years ago, it was assumed that the best way to an economic happiness life is through education, through college but now i'm not so sure. what say you? >> well, there are new institutions that are being built and i'm a part of those new institutions and so if you could just hold on, there's a university in austin that's coming up and there are others in new jersey that are popping up, but it's obviously -- look,

you would be better off staring at a wall than learning information that's false. that's really what it comes down to. we're teaching people things that are not only untethered to reality, they're not even remotely in the realm of reality or evidence. many professors and administrators view the university as an ideology building and it's to replicate or put forward the ideology. when that happens, i'm incredibly fearful not only for the country as a whole, but for the parents who are paying tuition, for the kids who actually are going to school to learn something and they think they're learning something and they're not learning things. todd: you mentioned tuition. if enough people walk away from higher education and take their tuition dollars with them, will that reverse the trend or are these endowments so large that it gives these colleges and universities carte blanche to do whatever they want?

>> the problem is that there's a lack of confidence in the system. but as long as the current university architecture is the only way to credential people in that, you're going to have a very difficult time. for example, if someone gets into an elite university in this country, that carries a certain cache and they get access to a network and they get access to prestige, things they wouldn't otherwise get. but the traditional systems are crumbling. we see it all around us. i am extremely hopeful that the new institutions that are currently being built are things that parents can have trust, they're open expression, places to go where people can have debates again and not have to walk on egg shells all the time. nobody likes living like this, literally nobody. todd: what are the ramifications to our country if we have a generation of students that grow up indoctrinated and

not educated? >> grievance based ideologies. they're taught the system is racist, it's oppressive, and instead of trying to deal with that within the traditional democratic means, for example if you don't like a statue, you figure out however it is in the municipality to take the statue down. no, they are forming mobs, street thugs and they rip down statues. in aggregate, the problem is that the united states will lose competitiveness and one of the reasons it will lose competitiveness is because the knowledge production engines, our universities, you have to be able to trust the information that comes out of our institutions, we're no longer capable of that and we're training people and indoctrinating them in a world you view that asks not if racism happened but how it happened, how did this happen? everybody is presumed guilty and it's a terrible, terrible situation. todd: keep us posted on these

new institutions of higher learning that you and your colleagues are forming. i find it fascinating. it's going to be interesting to see how far they go and where we go from here. peter, as always, thank you for your time, sir. >> thanks, todd. jillian: it is 33 minutes after the hour. the 2022 campaign season is kicking into high gear and congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez will face a new challenger who is giving the progressive a run for her money. >> i approve that opportunity exists for anyone in this country. my opponent, aoc, is doing everything she can to undo what countless americans have died for. jillian: up next we're talking to the cuban american, former bartender, who is fighting to unseat the squad member. ♪ i just want to live while i'm alive. ♪ it's my life. ♪

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ones. a north carolina sheriff said he's following up on a potential sighting of brian laundrie after a hiker said he has no doubt he spoke with laundrie on the appalachian trail in tennessee near the north carolina border. we speak with that man later on this morning. d.c. police searching for a suspect in a shooting that killed a veteran virginia fleer and left -- firefighter and left two others injured. there is a $25,000 reward leading to an arrest and conviction. the fireman was with the department for 20 years. he leaves behind a wife and three children. the two wounded victims are expected to survive their injuries. and the philadelphia police department investigating after street racers caused absolute chaos outside city hall. take a look. >> [screeching tires] todd: the unruly cars

performing donuts and launching fireworks. they left giant crop circle designs in the streets the next morning. jillian: my goodness. i know exactly where that is. okay the, 2022 campaign season is kicking off and a new york city republican is taking the fight to progressive democratic congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez. >> i approve that opportunity exists for anyone in the country, that america is worth fighting for. my opponent, a aoc is doing everything she can to undo what countless americans have died for. jillian: joining us this morning is desi quaare. thank you for joining us. what made you decide to do this? ?seems like we're having an isse with your audio here for a second. let's go ahead and give --

>> can you hear me now. jillian: there you go. you got us? >> can you hear me? jillian: yes. can you hear me. >> yes, sorry about that. jillian: live tv. it happens sometimes. jillian: why don't you tell us why you decided to do this. >> yes. so the answer is quite simple. my family fled cuba because of a communist dictatorship that was put into power by people using the same socialist lies like free healthcare, free education, like people like aoc and others are using today. i got tired of watching it grow the way it's been growing and after seeing that nobody is getting the job done the way it should be getting done i decided to step in and do my best to get it done. jillian: tell me about your back story, about your family's back story. i understand it was 1959 that your family was forced to leave cuba as a result of what was going on there. >> castro took over cuba in 1959. my family fled a few years after that. they he reset end in miami.

half of my relatives were born in the united states, half were born in cuba. they came to new york where i was born and the rest is history. jillian: you were bartender, at one point you were homeless for a few months. >> correct. i was homeless for about five, almost six months. so it was a difficult time for me. but i could say that the good i took out of that, i learned what i can endure, i learned what i was made of, essentially. because i never looked for an easy way out. i never reverted to criminality and i did my best and thank god i was able to get out of it and i'm here today with you guys, so thank god. jillian: you served three years on active duty. so you certainly have done a lot with the new york army national guard. we thank you for what you did there. tell me what has been the most important issue that you see facing our country today and not only that, but new york. >> oh, man. the most important issue right

now with the country and new york as a reflection of the whole country is essentially the erosion of the standard of law that we have and the disregard for the constitution in general. that's what you've seen a massive spike in crime overall since the beginning of last year. and because of that, we just -- if things don't start changing in that direction, then it's just going to get even worse until it's irreparable. jillian: the person you're challenging, alexandria ocasio-cortez, a few years ago during the trump administration we saw a lot of photos of her visiting the border and the situation down there, some of them she was crying in them. she hasn't been down there to my knowledge, anyway, since this administration took over. let's take a listen to what ted cruz has to say on this. >> representative ocasio-cortez has a famous photo of her grasping her head by the kids in

cages. i'm going to give a simple challenge to her and for every democrat in the body, go see the biden cages. jillian: a quick response on that? >> i couldn't have said it better myself. it's interesting that when trump was in office she was at the border crying about it but now she's not only nowhere to be seen but when it comes to cubans coming into the country and being barred, she's silent, when it comes to haitians trying to come into this country, she's silent. she's has no intention unless there's something else behind it. jillian: pitbull had this to say about patriotism. >> if you don't like the united states of america, go back to the country that you came from and we'll see how much you appreciate the united states of america. jillian: i mean, a few seconds there but it was pretty poignant. what do you have to say about

that? >> i agree, honestly. i think there's a problem with how privileged the youth is in this country that don't have necessarily a close tie to a family member or relative that raised them who are from a country like that because when you come from a country that fell apart before your eyes, there's no other result usually than your future generations seeing that and having appreciation for what there is right here because people -- it's like half the country doesn't appreciate what they have. jillian: okay, we'll be keeping an eye out to see how this ends up playing out. thanks for joining us. >> thank you very much. todd: is dr. anthony fauci canceling christmas celebrations this year? >> we can gather for christmas or it's just too soon to tell? >> it's just too soon to tell. todd: oh, boy. i don't know if i can continue with this read. you know i take christmas very seriously. fauci warning people should be voyage land.

our next -- vigilant. our next guest says people should be encouraged to spend time together. jillian: jason aldean is slamming governor newsom over school vaccine mandates, details next. ♪

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jillian: welcome back. country music star jason aldean is slamming governor gavin newsom after the democrat made this announcement, declaring california the first state to mandate vaccines for students. >> that's what we are announcing here, a state-wide requirement for in-person instruction for all of our children to add to a well-established list that currently includes 10 vaccinations, the vaccination for covid-19. jillian:he wrote, quote, it is no longer our decisions as parents or free americans to make decisions about our kids. gavin newsom makes those decisions for us now. this is not how america and being he free works. al dean does not live in california. todd: california parents speaking out against the mandate, including our next guest, california father of two and a board certified doctor joins us once again. great to see you as always.

why isn't there a testing alternative to this mandate? >> well, you would wonder why isn't there a testing alternative and we don't know. really, the decision that the governor made is one that's really based on his personal beliefs, based in politics, it's not based in clinical evidence. as a physician, the one thing i'm taught, the one thing we should all practice is evidence-based medicine and the evidence-based decisions need to not just extend to the doctor/patient relationship but also to policies that are made by politicians, by public health boards and when those aren't done, we just have decisions that are made kind of flippantly with the evidence that exists out there. todd: if preventing death in kids is the ultimate goal, shouldn't the focus be on far more pro liveic -- prolific

killers like suicide and drug overdose? >> when you look at children, only about 35 children in all of california have died since the pandemic began. that's tragic, we don't want to see a single child die. there are many causes, such as motor vehicle accidents, accidental injuries from bicycle accidents, drownings, poisonings, suicide, drug overdoses, homicides by gunshots, all exceeding this by an order of magnitude or greater. when you think about that, if schools really were a place where paternalistic medicine were to be practiced, if you had a center for safety and health for children, rather than just a center for education, wouldn't you focus on the true killers of kids that we mentioned, wouldn't we be questioning regarding suicidality, wouldn't we be doing drug tests, wouldn't we be asking about seat belt use, car seat use, bike helmet use,

whether that's a locked gun at home, whether there's a gate on the pool, et cetera. but we're not. we're focused on something that has killed so few children, albeit tragically, that we're ignoring everything else. if they're going to turn public schools into health centers, they need to be asking this question, are they doing the right things and if they aren't, then we should have that conversation. todd: switching gears now, dr. anthony fauci says it's too soon to know if families can gather for christmas. here's his grinch-ian comment. listen. >> we can gather for christmas or it's too soon to tell? >> it's too soon to tell. we have to concentrate on continuing to get the numbers down and not try to jump ahead by weeks or months and say what we're going to do at a particular time. todd: doc, after almost two years of mixed messaging, should anyone take that warning seriously, especially when it comes to what i like to call, doc, the most wonderful time of the year. >> well, it is the most wonderful time of the year and why is it? it's because there are

immeasurable social, emotional, personal and most importantly spiritual benefits of celebrating the holidays, whether it's christmas, hon cay or -- hanukkah or any other celebration that occurs that time, and we know there's a risk, benefit analysis, whether it's with vaccines or social gatherings during a time of a pandemic. when you think of the risk-benefit, when you think of the benefit that's not just small, it's a major benefit to people and families and society in general and compare that to the remote risk of injury, sickness or death had as a result of attending a gathering, especially now when people can be vaccinated, especially when we know what the risk factors are, especially when we can choose to gather outdoors if we want to, wear masks if we want to, all of those things and where we can exclude people who

are symptomatic, exclude people who tested positive, where is the risk? right? the risk is minimal. if people choose not to be vaccinated and put them selfs in those situations, they're accepting the risk. we don't have to have a risk whatsoever. when you do that risk/benefit analysis with a massive benefit compared to a miniscule if any risk whatsoever, that makes no sense to be telling the public to skip or potentially skip an important part of the year, something that actually makes life worth living and joyous for most people. todd: don't take away my christmas. i'm not accusing you of that. doctor, thank you for joining us as always. jillian, over to you. >> thank you. jillian: coming up in the next hour, from vaccine mandates for students to vaccine fines for unvaccinated spouses, you heard me right, one health system is now pushing -- punishing its

employees if husbands or wives opt out of getting the shot. we talk to one of the employees coming up. todd: plus joe concha and michael waltz join us live when "fox & friends first" continues on this very busy monday morning. don't go anywhere. ♪ hness goes away, you're left thinking, “okay....now what?” febreze fade defy plug works differently. it's the first plug-in with built-in technology... to digitally control how much scent is released... to smell 1st day fresh for 50 days. it even tells you when it's ready to be refilled. upgrade to febreze fade defy plug.

todd: it is monday, october 4th. all hands on deck to secure the border, steps being taken in texas to prepare for the next massive wave of migrants. jillian: america on edge as the search for brian laundrie continues. we're talking to the man who says he encountered the fugitive over the weekend. and the location might surprise you. todd: and new york city looking for thousands offs substitute teachers as public school vaccine mandates go into effect today. taxpayers set to pay a premium for it. jillian: good morning. you're watching "fox & friends first" on this monday morning. i'm jillian mele. todd: i'm todd piro. a live look at the white house