evening. thank you for being with us. please we hope you will save dvr so you never miss an episode and in the meantime, let not your hearts be troubled, "the ingraham angle" is up next and we will see you back here tomorrow night. >> laura: i'm laura ingraham. this is "the ingraham angle" from washington tonight. we have a huge show for you and going to get right to it including breaking new details on lieutenant colonel stuart schaller who called out his superiors and his attorney joins us exclusively to tell us what's up but first, zuckerberg trap. that's the focus of sites angle. >> internal research is aware that there are safety threats facing children. kids who are bullied on

instagram, the bullying follows them home, follows them into their bedrooms. children express feelings of loneliness and struggling with these things. i don't understand how facebook can know all these things and not escalated to someone like congress for help and support in navigating these problems. >> laura: appearing on "60 minutes" and in hearing is the hill, former facebook employee claimed that the social media giant was knowingly hurting kids there with algorithms. she alleged the company knew about it and chose to do nothing to stop it. all of a sudden, the beast first conceived at harvard was getting hit by a bipartisan onslaught of outrage. >> we know and from what we have learned from her that this is helping us build bipartisan support. >> facebook has put profits ahead of people. >> my message for

mark zuckerberg, your time of invading our privacy, promoting toxic content and preying on children and teens is over. >> laura: does no one else think the timing of this is a little too convenient? biden is on the ropes and democrats are on the way to a brutal beat down in the midterms. alternative points of view ahead of the election all under the guise of protecting the children. >> the reconciliation bill was a culmination because it was about the children. the children, the children, the children. >> laura: we love saying the children. let's begin with one basic fact. the left doesn't care if the culture or big business spirits content, they never have. they literally do not care. in fact for decades, liberals have defended, even celebrated cultural and political forces that harm children.

drugs, gambling, gender bending, school shutdowns, mask mandates and of course, their holy grail of abortion. democrats support all of it. some on the left would prefer if we didn't even have children. a "new york magazine" columnist who recently called the to have children and essentially selfish one done for fulfillment or self betterment or boredom or peer pressure. we should pray for her because she knows not what she says but the point is after all they have done to damage our children and steal their innocence, we are supposed to trust them on the facebook and instagram issue? color me skeptical. we've known for many years that parents should keep their kids off smartphones for as long as possible. we need to put our own phones down, myself included, and do the hard job of parenting in this very messed up world.

conservative parents have led the charge on these issues for as long as i can remember. now suddenly, people like far left senator ed markey agrees with staunch republican marsha blackburn we are supposed to think that he's trustworthy? not so fast. the fact is, republicans may be walking straight into a trap. the left's a real beef with facebook has nothing to do with the children. the kids are on tiktok, aren't they? the left doesn't like facebook because facebook has refused to suppress all conservative speech, that's it. the left has decided to drive conservatives off of the internet and they are afraid facebook won't be sufficiently loyal to their plan. they actually got away with banning the former president of the united states and that's not enough power for the democrats. they are that afraid of voters in free speech, think about that for a minute. this is why globalists don't mind china being in charge

because if they could, some of these really hard line democrats would ban all dissenting opinions on social media and just like china, they probably call it something like a threat to the social order were a threat to security or a threat to overall community or harmony. this all makes sense if your goal is to maintain power by any means necessary and that's all they care about. facebook could promote live acts and the left would take their side but because there's still some conservatives on facebook, some conservatives, the left wants to shut it down. democrats have seized upon the current facebook scandal is an opportunity to silence conservatives were good. >> you know the insurrection occurred january 6, do you think facebook turned up the face

cards because they were costing the company money? >> they change those in the run-up to the election because they knew they were dangerous and because they wanted that growth back. they wanted the acceleration of the platform back after the election. they return to their original assault on the fact that they had to break the glass on january 6th and turn them back on i think is deeply problematic. >> agreed. >> laura: if democrats had a simple majority, they wouldn't work with republicans at all on these issues but they would pass legislation that has the effect of silencing all dissenting speech. it would be directed broadly across all media and online platforms but cloaked in terms of protecting national security or their new favorite, preventing domestic terrorism. they would pack the courts to approve that legislation and your freedom of speech freedom that generations of americans have fought to preserve would be gone. that's the real goal, a land where we are silenced.

and theirs are the only voices heard. but they are willing to take a little bit of time to get there so they will use the bipartisan dust kicked up by one whistle blower to nudge towards control of political speech. facebook responded by inviting government regulation saying we need to create standard rules for the internet. it's time for congress to act. kind of makes perfect sense. remember, zuckerberg himself was heavily and personally coordinating with liberal activists and poured hundreds of millions of dollars into local election offices in places like pennsylvania and after he was mercilessly scorned by the left for not silencing trump in 2016, he tried to make it up for his political comrades by keeping trump's reach limited. prediction, this is not going to end well for conservatives who

want to challenge the left and how do i know this? look who is licking their chops at the prospect of facebook regulation. >> facebook ought to be seriously regulated. it is a new source for a fast part of our country today. it continues the way it continues, we are going to have january 6th multiple times. it allows lies to be spread unchecked just like the big lie was spread around the world in large parts because of social media and none of it is true. we should not allow those things in our society. >> laura: i do like the sweater though and what about the whistle-blower herself? who is she? what is her motivation for coming forward? >> she says she agreed to take the job only if she could work against misinformation but after this past election, there was a turning point. >> they told us we are dissolving civic integrity. they basically said we made it

through the election, there wasn't riots. fast forward a couple of months and we got insurrection and when they got rid of civic integrity, it was the moment where i was like i don't trust that they are willing to actually invest to keep facebook from being dangerous. >> laura: the woman is a total ideologue, sorry. those comments made my spidey senses activate. republicans ought to be very, very careful about how to proceed here. the left can't be trusted on this issue and the g.o.p. may end up building a trap that will block conservative speech for years to come. just look at the biden justice department already doing to intimidate parents. we talked about this last night from attending a school board meetings and expressing their outrage at the propaganda being taught in public schools. remember when biden told us that justice department would be independent, what a joke that is. these days, the doj is just another branch of the dnc.

because the liberal weaklings at the national school board association don't want to face criticism for their horrible policies, they are calling on the doj to criminalize their political opposition. the only speech they really want to protect is when you nodded in agreement with every school decision that any bureaucrats make. >> you are using the fbi to intervene in school board meetings. tell me where the line is with parents expressing their concerns waiting for hours. >> when the situation turns to violence, if the top of the justice department and local law enforcement to address that. the attorney general's memorandum simply asked the fbi and their counterparts to ensure state and local law enforcement have an open line of communication to report threats. >> laura: there is so much nonsense in her statement, i don't know where to begin. the fbi exist to investigate parents getting mad at a school

board meeting rises to the level of intimidation or harassment, and that's now a federal matter? look at all those threats facing america, open borders and the fbi has time to zero in on a 45-year-old mom complaining about her son's sophomore english reading list? the only ones guilty of intimidation here are sitting behind the big desk, thank god merrick garland is it sitting on the supreme court today. and by the way, we just learned tonight the defense department is about to turn the screws on its own ranks, subjecting them to continue with vetting supposedly to stop extremists within the military and other insider threats. and this will include surveillance of social media posting for starters. we warned you last year that the left has changed since the days

of clinton and obama. they've just given up altogether trying to win rhetorically the voters over, they're not going to do that anymore. that's impossible. so when their desperation, they now believe force compliance is the only way to go and silencing of conservatives is the only way forward. god help any republican who would assist them. and that's the angle. joining me now, wisconsin senator ron johnson in california congressman devin nunes. congressman nunes, let's start with you. what we are seeing right now, do you see a possible bait and switch being pulled on the republicans here? >> i do because you kind of stated in your opening but mostly on facebook and you don't see a lot of kids on facebook that instagram is kind of the aged between 20 to 50 that are on instagram, there are some teenagers on instagram but the big bogeyman here no one is

talking about his tiktok. tiktok is where all the kids are, the little kids and there's no regulation there. so i think republican should be very careful here. anything, we ought to be investigating zuckerberg for the $350 million he invested in this so-called nonprofit groups that got involved in our election and i think that's where the focus should be, where every single member of congress should be asking on an everyday basis, not falling into some trap of figuring out some scammer we're going to have a bureaucracy of people that are just going to do good things which means sensor conservatives. >> laura: democrats aren't just looking to use social media to silence political dissent but also scientific dissent. >> last week, youtube announced it was swiftly banning all vaccine misinformation and called on facebook to take

similar steps. we know the effect of this. we know over half the people that haven't gotten the vaccine is because of something they've seen on social media. >> laura: senator johnson, you are blocked yourself from youtube. what do people have to understand about what's at stake here? >> first of all, i completely agree with your assessment. the left by and large likes media and social media as they are and what they're trying to do is stop every last little tidbit of conservative thought sneaking through facebook so we shouldn't fall for it. mark zuckerberg as devin nunes was talking about pretty well took over the election system in green bay, wisconsin, and had a great deal of influence in the four or five other democrat towns so he obviously is not trying to support free speech. i do agree that he is primarily about making money but that starts with control and quite

honestly, the best pushback is going to be the free market solutions but i've never felt that there is really a legislative solution because the democrats like the status quo. they're not going to cooperate with republicans to rein in the social media companies because what liberal misinformation has ever been labeled misinformation by facebook? what they did do is they actually shut down facebook groups of the vaccine injured so that people lost touch with members of these groups that were suicidal and no longer counsel. that's what facebook did in terms of censorship of conservative thought. you can't mention the vaccine injuries that we are all aware of. >> laura: facebook zuckerberg posted a statement tonight in response to the hearing, very long-winded but it says in part similar to balancing other social issues, i don't believe private company should make all the decisions on their own peer

that's why we've advocated an offense outlining areas of regulation we think are the most important related to elections, harmful content, privacy, and competition. congressman nunes, does he actually think there's going to be a lot of written about what you can post regarding an election? is that what he's getting at? >> what's going on there as he had about 72 lawyers and all of his political people who said this is the place you need to land. we need to land here to say that we are for something and you would need 60 votes in the senate to actually pass a law, number one. number two, of course by the end to his regime would love to write the rules and of course zuckerberg would welcome it because he has attorney general merrick garland drafting the rules, it would be perfect for zuckerberg and twitter and google and all of them, so it's really where they're trying to take this. >> laura: very quickly on this

dod announcement tonight that they will be continual surveillance of social media posts and that i promised he was just the start of what they will do to our troops and other dod official staff. your take on that new development? >> we need to be very concerned that her generals are now more concerned with wokeness than they are military readiness and hurting the military. trying to get rid of any conservative in the military particularly in the higher ranks. >> laura: and it part of the purge here? >> precisely and that should concern every american. >> laura: so great to have you both on tonight, thank you. the left really wants you to believe that its motives regarding facebook are beyond reproach and that's why they are comparing the current effort to taking down insidious industries like big tobacco the msnbc today let it slip why this comparison should set off some alarm bells. >> the comparisons being made to

big tobacco, big pharma, others are saying it's even more than just what big tobacco went through in the sense that facebook not only does harm to the people consuming it but those that are consuming at then go out and do harm to the greater society whether it's disinformation on covid or the violence we saw on january 6th. >> laura: joined me now, victor davis hanson, author of the fabulous new book, the dying citizen that just came out and you were on my podcast for a whole hour, so great to talk to you for a long period of time. but you see right through this, that is noble pursuit of the democrats. suddenly they care about the kids. what's really happening here? the carcinogen of the conservative thought. >> two things, i think. one is as joe biden drops in popularity and every one of the issues of their agenda become more unpopular, they're going to try to increase and rep

weaponize the federal government and that's because they don't have popular support and were already seeing it. when you talk about facebook used for improper purposes, we had 120 continuous days of riots, arson, and looting and all of those congregations violating quarantine, violating masks, burning down stores, they were coordinated on social media. not one person on the left said we've got to stop this for when chuck schumer goes outside the supreme court and threatens, you will pay, all of those things are chlorinated on social media nobody said a word and the same thing is when you saw jeff flake swarmed by people in an elevator during the kavanaugh hearings or even posting that atrocious video of senator sinema and a bathroom being confronted by an activist. >> laura: make it clear to our viewers.

you rode a whole book about the dying citizen. are there tactics the tactics of what we had understood to be an american citizen interested in the exchange of ideas? >> no. when they have empowered middle-class citizens that are informed and believe in borders and they believe that tribalism is secondary to their identity and they are in control of their administrative state, they don't win because you have a lot of the enlightened inductive thinking citizens and they don't trust those people because they have this top-down utopian agenda that they think there's some type of platonic guardians and they will tell the stupid people you do this about quarantine and vaccination. you have covid and you have antibodies, it doesn't matter and they don't want to empower citizens and they've done their best with demographic change and open borders were trying to dismantle things like the

filibuster, the electoral college, the nine person supreme court. >> laura: are you surprised about how obvious their tactics have become? it's pretty obvious even if you're a casual observer of politics, what this facebook thing was really all about. i'm sure some of it is true in some of it is not but these people don't care about the kids, innocence or protecting the kids innocence. they did, they wouldn't have an open border and pushing protections for the industry and mainlining pop. >> the only thing that surprised me was how naive mark zuckerberg is. he banned donald trump but not the taliban from social media,

that was not good enough. he does not understand the mind of the left. you were never going to satisfy them in this you give complete fealty and he doesn't understand that more than he compromises with the left, the more than they want. >> laura: he did a pretty good job when he went to china. he tried to do it pretty well over there. victor, congrats on the book, it's fantastic. joe biden claims that it's all about reversing american decline. newt gingrich has that, plus, lieutenant colonel stuart shall or may be out of the break but not out of legal trouble. his attorney joins us exclusively in moments to discuss what's next. don't go away

>> these bills are not about left versus right. these bills are about competitiveness versus complacency. there are about opportunity versus decay. to support these investments is to create a rising america, america's movie. to oppose these investments is to could be complicit in america's decline. >> laura: that was joe biden desperately pitching his

boondoggle in michigan today but the truth is, few have facilitated america's decline more. he voted to normalize trade relations with china and supported his entry into the wto that cost millions of jobs but some republicans, a lot of them supported it. now joe wants to cause more misery for all working americans by taxing and spending our economy into oblivion. what's even more worrisome is that joe manchin seems to be cracking. we predicted this. i knew it would happen. he open the door to $2.2 trillion in spending. what happened to 1.5? joined me now, former speaker of the house, also the author of the upcoming book. i always knew joe manchin was going to be a soft touch here. they showed up on the kayaks around his yacht and just completely melted. is there any room for hope here that this will blow up?

>> it probably depends on whether or not they really committed and put their foot down. depending on how they design the bill, can they really guess with the left wants at 2.2 billion or whatever it is? the newsletter said there are no monoliths here. it's a choice between the timid and the bold big government socialist and then turns right around and proves what i was saying. there's no reason to be for $2.2 trillion. i think i saw a number this morning that joe biden is at 18% approval in west virginia. that means that the people that joe manchin represents have a 5-1 opposition of biden. the whole thing tells you that the washington power structure

is desperate to get all of this done before the republicans take over as they almost certainly are going to in the next election and i don't know yet how it's all going to come out. we don't know what kyrsten sinema will do. does having people come into the ladies room and stand outside your stall while you go to the bathroom, is that an intimidator? >> laura: that's your party. i want to play something that biden said today. i think to try to reframe what they're trying to push through new that is more palatable. >> i want a job corps just like the environmental job corps. over 160,000, 1.6 million people. >> laura: 1.6 million, this is a new job corps.

>> first of all, franklin delano roosevelt was in the middle of the great depression. millions and millions every time you turn around, businesses tell you they can't find workers. huge logjam of shipments coming into the u.s. because they are are not enough truck driver some of the middle of this labor shortage, what joe biden wants to do was to take 1.6 million assuming that the right number whatever staff told him. another 1.6 million and put him on a government payroll when they are not in the private sector doing jobs that already exist. one more example of the kind of madness we are dealing with in the administration that can't control inflation, can't produce energy and going to have a

massive christmas when all these toys and all of these people want are still stuck sitting off the coast of california because they can't unload them. it's truly madness. >> laura: the island of misfit toys. we keep hearing that this is really going to make the rich pay their fair share. but then it looks like they are going to surveilled people's bank accounts if they are larger than $600 so they want to see every penny that americans spend of their own hard-earned money, getting a tax break is not enough. they want total surveillance and control. quick thoughts. >> is exactly what you said earlier, big government socialist have to check out what

you do with school boards, check out what you do in the military, now they want to check on what's in your wallet. these people want total control over your life so they can decide, so they have the power. you have found a party that is eager to do that. >> laura: before it's too late, thank you. and we've been demanding that lieutenant colonel schaller be released from the brig and today, new details of where he is right now. his attorney joins us exclusively, stay right there.

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>> they left hundreds of americans in afghanistan. or they're leaving their son tonight in prison. that's not okay with us and i challenge the american people, is that okay with you? he asked for accountability. he spoke his truth and they couldn't handle it.

>> laura: that was when we could go tonight when we last spoke with a parent toss into the brig for demanding accountability from our failing military leaders. tonight, we are happy to report he has been released after the show's focus and others on the story. he is no longer in solitary confinement. joining me now exclusively is tony busby, attorney for colonel schaller. where does the case stand right now? >> right now as you've said, he's been released. he is with his family. he faces a court-martial and that might happen as early as next friday, not sure. and we will have to have a hearing and hopefully it will be a public hearing because it should be public and he still remains subject to this gag order which i would submit is a legal and that's what put him in the brig in the first place so i think it's important to remember

why he went to the brig in the first place. he spoke out as you saw and he said many service members both former like myself and current believed which is the withdrawal from afghanistan was completely botched and no one took accountability. you have the general staff, the highbrow was basically trying to pass the buck and so he spoke out. he offered to resign as you know and refused to let him resign honorably even though he spent 17 years of his life in the marine corps, a marine corps infantry officer. here's a guy now that has lost his command, his job, his health care and his pension. we are talking about more than two and a half million dollars of retirement that he has essentially going to have to walk away from him. >> laura: just so people understand this, he still has not been told what he was charged with, is that possibly correct?

>> there's been of course some accusations bandied about but as far as formal charges, i guess we will see for sure whenever we have a hearing. >> laura: so the answer is no, he has not been formally charged, correct? >> that's correct. so that's where it is. >> laura: what's his state of mind tonight? >> he is very happy of course to be back with his family. one thing when i spoke to him this afternoon that he noted was he was in the brig of course in a safe place, of course not with his family but reminded that for many military families who have it a lot worse than him including the 13 families who suffered on that fateful day there in afghanistan, so that's the reason he spoke out. his message still rings true and he has done what a real marine does and he hopes that somebody

somewhere within the military constabulary will take accountability. so far, he's the one who's been held accountable and is just not right. >> laura: was he in solitary confinement and with that done supposedly for his own safety? >> it's really funny, they talk about the uniform code of military justice pair there's not a lot of justice involved, he was alone of course. i will say this, a lot of the brig staff treated him very well, the other marines supposedly guarding him. he was considered to be in "flight risk which is ridiculous. this is the state of affairs as they are now. once you hurt the general's feelings, they are punitive and that's where it is. hopefully we can get this all behind us next friday if there

is a hearing next friday and i would also say he has been released awaiting this court-martial where the secretary of the navy right now could release him from the marine corps without going through a court-martial and let him be honorably discharged and go about his business. he still loses his retirement, but at least he returned to his family and goes about his business. >> laura: do you believe they want to make an example out of him given all the suppression of speech and the military is different, you are subjected to different types of restrictions of what you can say and even the parents acknowledge that last week with me. so he is under other restrictions. however, you get the sense that they are using him to tell the other troops don't even think about saying anything like this. >> certainly what it seems like, make an example. this is what happens to you.

this man is an honorable marine, he took responsibility for what he said and offered to resign but they wouldn't allow him to do that and that's where we are now. >> laura: i hope you will come back next week, please give our best regards to lieutenant colonel schaller, we wish him the very best and we hope that he will come on the show as well. thank you. and a student at ucla had his enrollment threatened after he refused to disclose his vac status. what makes this more absurd? 's classes are all online. he joins us next. talking about mental health it's not a sign of weakness, but really a sign of strength.

people sometimes don't want to talk about mental health, they don't want to talk about problems that they might have that aren't physical, but those problems are just as real. i have this disease you know, and it makes it awkward that i have to explain myself or prove myself in certain situations. a lot of times i'm not feeling good or you know not having a good day, but through the music i'm able to have a good day by expressing something that feels good to me that i can pass onto others. one of my favorite phrases to share with not only my kids but anybody is never compare your insides to someone else's outsides. we are creating conversation we are raising awareness and we're kicking the hell out of this stigma saying get away from the people we love the most. ♪♪

>> laura: they want you to think that blind submission to covid rules no matter how insane is the new normal including on-and-off college campuses. just ask my next guest, ucla student christian walker who

says his enrollment was threatened for not disclosing his back status. >> you are telling me you will drop my classes all after we've already paid $70,000 for the year if i don't upload something about my vaccine status? when all my classes are online. >> correct. >> got it. >> laura: i love the got it. all of his classes are online and he says ucla forced him to sign an orwellian confession stating i certify that i have been informed the risk of covid-19 infection including long-term disability and death both to myself and others who i may expose the disease. i think it's whom i may expose the disease but it's ucla, you can't say that anymore. join the main outcome a christian. son of football legend herschel walker. good to see you tonight. your video cracked me up. i laughed out loud because it was so dramatic. i loved it. they make you sign this confessional statement, kind of a waiver of liability but what's

going on up there? >> laura, it's absolutely ridiculous. yesterday, i received a call as you heard from the university, all of my classes are online, i don't step foot onto the campus and they told me all of my already paid for classes would be dropped if i didn't disclose my vaccination status. i do all of my classes from my living room and i then received a message from the health center telling me i would be subject to financial and other consequences if i didn't tell them such as being reported to the student conduct office for disciplinary action. this makes no sense and it's none of the university's business what my health decisions are because i'm not even going onto the campus. >> laura: are you not able to actually go into classrooms because you haven't given them your back status or is everybody online? >> a just so happens all of my classes, one of my majors is chinese or online. some people are on campus for all of mine are online it shouldn't matter whether i

dropped the vaccine or not. >> laura: what is the reaction? i know you have a lot of pals at ucla. what is their reaction? i know it's a liberal place, grade school. at some point, does the student body say enough is enough? we all have to move on >> alicia: >> they're actually cheering this on, they scream at me online, cussed me out that i should just disclose my vaccination status even though i'm not going onto the campus, they love the mandates and even though most of them are vaccinated, they are encouraging everyone to wear a mask in class and while walking outside to different classes. it's complete arrangement. >> laura: they are electric bikes and scooters, are they double masking on the scooters and the ripped sticks and all the very adult modes of transportation they use? >> i wouldn't be surprised if they were triple masking.

it seems the more masks, the safer they feel even with their good old vaccination. >> laura: so what's next for you on campus? will you not be able to go to in person classes and less submit further? >> i believe the rule is that you have to tell them your status and if you have the vaccine the coming to wear a mask and if you don't have it, you have to wear a mask and you also have to get covid tested once per week. so i'm just praying i don't have to go deal with the on-campus drama is most of the students have very ill feelings towards me because i'm a conservative. >> laura: that's the way to be the real rebel on campus, be a conservative on a college campus, have guts to speak your mind. it will be following it, thanks so much. and up next, it can't be true.

>> laura: do we get extra credit for understanding biden-all edgy?

>> like back in the day when my grandpa -- back in the 1920 in that area. they went from state to state convincing people that day -- allowed them to put 20,000 gallons of gasoline in the ground. they didn't want them around. >> laura: we are going to need scholars to translate that. "gutfeld!" next. ♪ ♪ [applause] ♪ ♪ >> greg: happy tuesday, everyone. so this is crazy. on monday attorney general announced the fbi would investigate a disturbing spike in harassment, intimidation, and threats of violence against school administrators, teachers, and stuff. a disturbing spike. every talking about leg