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asked you. i thank you for your service today in leadership and getting us through this time. our prayers always to colin powell's family. secretary, always good to see you. thank you. >> thank you. >> harris: and that's going to do it for "the faulkner focus". you can see that i'm already on the set of "outnumbered" as we had that breaking news. stay close. >> harris: just moments ago we heard from secretary of state anthony blinken remembering the life and legacy of general colin powell who died this morning at the age of 84 from covid-19 complications. general powell, the son of jamaican immigrants, rose through the ranks of the military and then went on to make history as the first chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and later as the first black and youngest secretary of state. you're watching "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner joined by my
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co-hosts. in the center seat today former utah congressman jason chavis. welcome, everybody. general powell served under republican and democratics alike, overseeing dozens of crises including operation desert storm. he then played a major role under president bush who paid tribute to powell saying this. he was such a favorite of presidents that he earned the presidential medal of freedom twice. he was highly respected at home and abroad and most important colin was a family man and friend. laura and i send alma, his wife, and their children our condolences as they remember the life of a great man. powell's family is calling him a great american today. in 1994, he shared his feeling about this country with
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graduates at howard university. >> above all, never lose faith in america. its faults are yours to fix, not to curse. america is a family. there may be differences, disputes within the family, but we must not allow the family to be broken in the warring factions. let us draw strength from the diversity of our people and not seek weakness. believe in america with all of your heart and soul, with all of your mind. remember that it remains the last best hope. you are its inheritors and today's future is placed in your hands. >> harris: those words. jason? >> jason: america lost one of its best. he exuded confidence and confidence. i had the chance and honor and privilege of shaking his hand and hearing him speak at a corporate event after he had retired. sad to see this happen.
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but i hope america remembers what a great american he was and that his message was a positive one, that he believed in america. that he loved this country. that he exuded patriotism and love of country and truth. yet he was still down to earth and could recognize that he was no better than the troops that he led. in that way, he was a true, true leader in this country. we need more colin powells in this country. he's a great american. >> harris: kennedy? >> kennedy: i really appreciate what you said in that speech from 1994 and people should not lose sight of that. this is truly an incredible country. i also like the idea that his discipline and his drive took him to the greatest heights of diplomacy and the military.
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while i may disagree with some of the military gripes he has given past presidents. when he warned of those warring factions, we're kind of in the middle of what seems like a simmering war. it is not a civil war but you have a lot of groups that despise each other. he's one of the few people who will be remembered fondly by those warring groups. >> harris: those are great comments. you take us right to the center of what was raw. he gave some advice that you didn't agree with. he even talked about he could give that advice but a he was talking with presidents at the time. remember, clinton, george w. bush, presidents there and secretary wilkie reminded me that he gave advice to ronald reagan that he would listen to. whether you agreed to, you knew that he was being listened to because he led so many.
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kayleigh, you and i talked about, you know the former va secretary robert wilke. there was such a conflict that was going on years ago in terms of what to do. isn't there always? you want people around you -- we saw this with former president trump. wilke was part of the team. they'll give you the truth. you take all of that information and make the best decision. >> kayleigh: yes. it tells you a lot about someone, harris, when they are a political appointee that exists in so many administrations. they're protected by statute, many of them. but a political appointee, you're asked to come to washington. it's the honor of your life to come to washington. he was asked once by reagan's security adviser, then george h. w. bush. then secretary of state. the first appointment by george w. bush. what does this say about this man who, for 20 years at the
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highest level of public life. it says those leadership qualities that you talked about, be calm, be optimistic, be kind. so important. that's why he has been through so many administration. he was respected by all. both sides of the aisle recognized his contributions. >> harris: that is that calm that my father would talk about. my dad led much the same way. he led men and win into battle. he said you can be more upset about the matter than they are. you've got to be calm. he would tell me general powell was most known for saying few words when it was time to take action. >> emily: i was a young cadet. i did rotc. colin powell said rotc saved him. he said that's when he fell in love with the army. it lasted 40 years later. i saw him as an inspiration, a great leader. he led by example.
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it was his legacy that was so life changing i think for so many people. something as well that struck me about his service is how humble he was. he said an american success story happens every single day, thousands of them. he said find something that you really love doing. if you do it well, that's it. he said i went into the army because it was something i loved doing. one thing led to another. people say t what was the greatest award you got? i don't think like that. my success and my satisfaction came from what i did every day. every day i worked hard. i did what i was supposed to do. i didn't need to be a general. i didn't need to get medals. i need to be able to serve successfully every day. real success comes from doing right, doing well, serving your fellow men and womenthat is emblematic of his leadership. >> harris: it's so true. jason, not to go down too far the road of politics but people
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would often ask, what was it about general colin powell? former secretary of state, joint chiefs of staff, chairman, that he wouldn't want to run for president? part of it is what emily is saying, for those who are the children of those who served under him. and for those who just knew him personally as well. it was that idea that he was just an american. i know that's hard for us to even think about. he really saw himself that way. >> jason: he did. he recognized how abusive politics can be. he impacted the nation as much as anybody, kind of building on what kennedy said. there were times on the republican side and on the democratic side of the aisle where people didn't like what he had to say and really disagreed with him. but i think going to the character of colin powell, everybody respected what he said. they knew he was full of confidence. love of country and that he had
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the experience to back it up. his perspective was as valuable as anybody. that's why from ronald reagan. think about how how long he was when he served with ronald reagan and the impact on the administration there after. there's only ever been one colin powell. i hope we remember the lessons and the attitude and approach that he took. that's what america needs more of. >> harris: amen. colin powell died today at age 84 from complication of coronavirus. he was fully vaccinated. he fought the last battle of his life. we remember him today. as someone who resembles someone else... i appreciate that liberty mutual knows everyone's unique. that's why they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. [ nautical horn blows ]
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>> the biden administration seems to be breaking rules left and right, with the president leading the way, as he and the first lady were caught on tape violating d.c.'s indoor mask mandate at an italian restaurant in georgetown. his vice president is accused of violating irs federal law. the one that prohibits tax except houses of worship from engaging in political activity. this after she appeared in the video now being shown at 300 churches across virginia where she actually encourages viewers to vote for terry mcauliffe. watch this. >> we were taught that it was our sacred responsibility to raise our voice and lift up the voices of our community. one of the most significant ways i believe that we can each use our voice is through our vote. so, virginians, you have the
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opportunity now to raise your voice through your vote. it's election time. i believe that my friend terry mcauliffe is the leader virginia needs at this moment. >> trouble for the veep. virginia governors race also sparking trouble for jen psaki with a government watch dog group filing an ethics complaint against her claiming she violated an act by seeming to endorse mcauliffe during a briefing. take a listen. >> i have to be careful about how much political analysis i do from here and not go into that too much. i think the president, of course, wants former governor mcauliffe to be the future governor of virginia. there is alignment on a lot of their agenda, whether it is the need to invest in rebuilding our roads or open bridges or making it easier for women to rejoin the work force. we're gonna do everything we can to help former governor mcauliffe. we believe in the agenda he's
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representing. >> just 36 to 48 hours time he had three ethical violation. what makes this so grading is this former sound byte from jen psaki. >> we have the highest ethical standards of any administration in history. number of ethics officials can say that and we're proud of that. we have also staffed up at an unprecedented pace and this is the most diverse administration in american history. so we certainly expect that everyone will abide by those high ethics standards that applies and how we operate. also applies in how we hire. >> kayleigh: most ethical administration in history? jason? >> jason: it was her deputy that did some things and had to get dismissed once he got caught by the media. i do love what jen psaki says. we can't weigh in on this and then she weighed in on it. to suggest they are the most
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ethical administration since the dinosaurs walked the earth is just comical. there are three examples happening in real time right now. i don't know how she looks in the camera and says that and not get called out on it. >> kayleigh: then there's the hunter biden paintings going for $100,000. pictures of him just moving with them. >> emily: gosh, i wonder who's buying these paintings. i bought two this weekend. it's really truly fantastic. i'm actually surprised that no one thought of this sooner. what a rouse. put out a bunch of dumb paintings. buy these. it has nothing to do with my dad. enrich yourself even more. quite a scam. of the three examples within the administration, kamala harris is
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in the deepest trouble. that could be a real issue for her. she's been a politician for a long long time. she should know better than that. there are ways of appealing to voters other than violating ethics and federal irs laws. she really could have thought a little bit more through this one. i was very proud of her. although her tone was completely condescending, she didn't cackle. she's making steps in the right direction. >> kayleigh: former president trump said he's been inspired to take up painting. the current president, we remember him scrambling when he forgot his mask on stage. he was in a panic. but he doesn't wear it in the italian restaurants? >> harris: he was panicking. he leaned into the mic. that was the first time we ever heard he was in trouble. i'm in trouble. i don't know who he was afraid of at the time. now he's just like doesn't
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really care with that mask. i don't know. it's all a collision of the stuff under my shoe when i visit a farm. i just can't imagine that you go from one place, telling millions of people as their elected leader, this is how we're going to do things that are safe. to having mandates and not trusting anybody. now to not wearing a mask even when you're mandated to. hypocrisy doesn't seem like the right word. it's pool hockey. >> kayleigh: i like that analogy of what you find under a shoe. democrat hipocracy runs deep. >> emily: your tax dollars are paying the salaries of these people. your tax dollars are being used
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to prosecute your fellow americans for lack of covid compliance. these guys throw it in your face by not wearing mask. so much more than rules for thee -- rules for me, not for thee. remember the restaurant farm boy in washington state. they endured fines up to $2,000 a day, at one point totalling $90,000 in eight days. the owner was threatened with jail time thanks to your federal fax dollars because the department of lay tkor agent drove by. without a trace of irony, the judge said this is not for punishment. this is just to bring you in compliance. the owner said this is purely a matter of survival. remember max public house? 25 criminal submonths during december when homicides were up 22%. highest amount of shootings since 2012. they were indicted for operating
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without a license, all of their licenses were taken away. one woman taken off a plane she was prosecuted fined $40,000 for going maskless. when we see them in a restaurant, maybe jen psaki laughs it off. sorry. but they are prosecuting fellow americans for doing the best they can or making the same innocent mistake. >> harris: i wanted to chime on this. chris cuomo is on that list. your tax dollars are not paying for him but he was on that list. >> emily: maybe they are. point well taken, harris. just ahead, police shortages in some major cities could get worse thanks to controversial vaccine mandates. now the city of chicago is reportedly threatening to fine and fire officers who don't comply. that's next.
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>> kayleigh: police officers across the country are taking a stand against forced mandate. that could mean critical police shortages for many cities. in chicago, head of a police union is calling on people to break the mandate. officers who disobey the vaccine order could lose their job. this could mean up to half of the city's 13,000 cops. today is the deadline for seattle police officers to comply with the city and state vaccine mandate. as of friday, 140 employees of seattle's police department had not yet submitted proof of vaccination. the police union said it can't afford to lose any more
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officers. a washington state patrol officer who refused to comply with the vaccine rule has this message for his colleagues and the governor. watch. >> this is my final signoff. after 22 years of serving the citizens in the state of washington, being asked to leave. this is the last time you will hear me in a state patrol. >> kayleigh: he said perfectly what so many are feeling, especially those officers there. what was equally interesting was the response by the dispatcher who commended his years of service and said, you've delivered babies on the job. he listed a litany of the service this man has provided the city, the state of washington, his town. all of that is lost now. all of that is lost. in addition to recruitment being low. >> emily: recruitment is only going to get harder and harder.
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people have to realize there's a reason firefighters, they are being represented by their respebive unions. there's a reason pushing back. it's against the mandate. these are people who are responding to a number of health and safety crises. they know what they're up against. it's the fact they're having to battle these mayors who don't have their back. they have the ridiculously activist city council. with crime spiking in places like that, i would be very very careful about threatening to fire cops because you cannot lose half of your police force when homicide levels are at endemic rates. >> kayleigh: part of the problem is the exception, the alternative, the other alternatives that were promised in the beginning no longer exist. some of the figures i stated did not include hundreds who applied
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for religious exemption and also did not include all of those who were denied exemption. how about being able po provide negative tests. seems that encroachment where the alternatives and exceptions that were promised in the beginning no longer exist. >> jason: yeah. some of these municipalities and states are going so far as saying you have to get a test and pay for it yourself despite assurances from everyone that testing was going to be free. this diving into your personal medical record i think is fundamentally totally wrong. in principle, i can see why many are standing up against it. i think this fits into the play books with the democrats who have always wanted to defund. it fell right into their narrative. this is a convenient way for them to do that. do you know who's next? federal workers. border patrol agents. their deadline is coming up beginning of december. you're going to have police
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forces where -- why would you sign up to be a police officer? these politicians, these cities, it -- unless the citizens call up and say, we love you. call a social worker when there's a rape going on and see how that goes. >> kayleigh: kennedy mentioned the first responder act. that includes health care workers. all of those on the front lines. what does it say when so many hundreds of thousands in all of these arenas are choosing not to get vaccinated and walking away. what does that say about his administration's messaging and communication about efficacy, about other options? >> harris: we know it has been a mess from the top of the white house. they couldn't figure out how to sell three vaccines. they had the greatest weapon on the planet against coronavirus and they couldn't sell it. they wouldn't sell it because it came from donald trump. how do we know? because the vice president of the united states kamala said so when she was a candidate.
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so we should have believed her when she said it. it's really sad. but now it's particularly sad because now we know they're not honest. as you go to some democratic led citizens, they're not honest. what's the first sign they are ripping away the alternative of testing? what are they doing in chicago? you have to pay for it. you have to find time on your own to do it because you can't get it done on your shift. and then we move to seattle where it's not even an option. you can show up to whatever you want but if you didn't get the vaccination, you can't come to work. you're done. that's not honest brokering right there. here's the layers of dishonest negotiations. right? it is this idea that no matter what anybody does, you've got to get a vaccine. jason rand has people calling him on his radio show. some are vaccinated. this isn't about the vaccine. they know that. they don't care.
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they would rather fight about something they think they can explain. us against them, them against us. which ever the topic is, it's always us against them. the vaccinated against the unvaccinated. what about making it about all americans together, some making different choices, putting parameters in place where we can all make us safe going forward? how about being consistent on the science. but, no. that's not what they want to do. it's not about public safety. it's about public appearance. it's about public relation on the part of the politicians. i could go on for hours but it is only on an hour show. kayleigh? >> kayleigh: one thing that struck me. president of the fraternal order of police in chicago said we are in a profession that nobody else wants to do. they can't get anybody to go into the police academy. i was in the airport saturday. i looked at my news which was wall to wall coverage because of
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an ambush of police officers in texas deputy atkins lost his life leaving behind a wife and 2-month-old. darryl jared and joaquim barson who were injured but survived, thank goodness. this came one day after friday, another officer was laid to rest also an ambush style attack. dillon harrison. we have a picture of him. he leaves behind a wife and 6-year-old. one officer laid to rest in an ambush friday, three others victims of an attack. these guys have very very dangerous jobs. already we have a police report. >> officer dillon, that was his first shift. to jason's point about the lack of support by our elected officials and leaders and some parts of society. this is what's leading to ambushing. we always say here, we are fearless with our support of law enforcement on this couch and network. we support you.
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>> i didn't think i would get a standing ovation before i walk in the door. i think there's a lot that we can be upset about, that we can be sad about, the direction of our country, the future of our nation, our families, our communities, our children, their education, their futures, our health and our well being. i'll tell you one thing is for sure, i'm sure as hell not giving up. [ cheers ] >> harris: of course, on our team, we are always reminded of what survival looks like and what this disease can do. i know you are friends with the first lady of florida, casey desantis. you and i have talked what you have been through in your journey with breast cancer. >> yeah. we met several times along the campaign trail. she is an amazingly strong
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woman. all of florida is behind her. look, yes. i had a breast cancer diagnosis. brac2 gene. i learned about this from my mom, who i consider a trail blazer. she never had breast cancer but eight women in our family did. she has eight women, some in their 20s. she knew she had this gene. she decided she wanted a mastectomy. i cried when i learned i had this gene. my dad said, you know your weakness in life. you can tackle it. i did it for ten years with aggressive surveillance. after i got married, i wore lemon socks to my surgery. i saw in the show this is us when you get sour lemon, take those lemons, turn them into something resembling lemonade. that's what i did. i said previously in a fox
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news.com article, i would like to think i'm strong. my strength is enveloped in the strength of the women who came before me. angelina jolie. my mother. other women who made this decision long before i did. ultimately jesus christ got me to the point of having that surgery the day before my surgery i heard the song when there's a mountain before it, tackle it with strength not your own. i did it with the strength of my savior. my husband at my side. i talk about it all in my new book coming out december 7th. >> harris: real quickly, because i know you get emotional when you talk about this. right after you made the decision to be proactive in all of this, that had to have changed your life in so many ways. >> it did. i actually said that i was making this decision. i said it's important f
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lot of support. >> emily: you and i have talked a lot about success stories and what success looks like. also diagnostic advancement. it's women getting regular mri's and mammograms and ultrasounds and all those different medical advancements that allow them to know sooner, to come bait earlier. can you speak to the millions of stories you've encountered with your conversations with women all over the country that have been diagnosed and have beat it as well. >> kayleigh: yes. i crossed paths with women battling breast cancer, women who had lost their hair. they're the real heroes. women who are boxed out. one in eight women will be diagnosed with breast cancer. it's a tragedy for females and for men who also can be diagnosed. every woman, it's their personal
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decision. you point out, some women choose surveillance. that is totally an acceptable choice. mri, mammograms. they save lives. unfortunately mammograms went down by 87% during the covid-19 pandemic. show up, get your mammogram. so important. >> harris: that is a critical piece of information there. catching anything early is important, but particularly breast cancer. cancer in general. kennedy, i want to come to you. >> kennedy: my mom is a three-time survivor of breast cancer. kayleigh's story really rings true with me. the first time she was diagnosed it was 1996. that's when they were carpet bombing women with chemotherapy. if you had a lumpectomy, ultimately she did have is a double mastectomy because it came back three different times. i saw what she went through then. you're absolutely right. women need to go -- i don't know who invented the mammogram. it obviously was a man, someone without boobies.
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it is not entirely comfortable. but they do have ultrasound. they do have mri. they do have such an incredible targeted treatment now. they are quick. it is absolutely worth getting it. if, god forbid, you are diagnosed with breast cancer, you have so many treatments and so many options now and a sister who's supporting you. >> kayleigh: my mom is a survivor, too. growing up as the daughter of a survivor in the early '80s with a double mastectomy, hysterectomy, medication for 30 years which led to other complication. the bottom line, growing up as the daughter of a survivor, a trail blazer in all these different regard, that matters, right? the communication and the talking about it, especially back then. that's another benefit. you talk about it in your book. to inspire other women to absolutely go out and get those regular mammograms, as uncomfortable as they may be.
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they save lives. >> harris: i just want to say. jason, with you with us today, men get breast cancer, too. and also, you're in our lives. you're our supporters. for those of us who either children of survivors, have survived it ourselves, whatever the configuration is that can happen, as kayleigh was giving you the numbers. one in eight. that's a large amount of women. so you, as a father of a daughter and also a husband, i want to get your quick thoughts on our way to commercial. >> jason: i'm proud of kayleigh and casey. i only wish the medicine we have today, we had 26 years ago when i lost my own mom to cancer, to breast cancer. get the screening. guys, you got to get prostate screenings. there's all kinds of great screening. but covid is not an excuse to stop the screening. you owe it to yourself and you owe it to your family.
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inflation where we enter another week where the administration deals with that. we will take that live. plus continued coverage of the death of general colin powell, military leader and the first black secretary of state. and more rules for thee not for me as the president and first lady break their own mandate over the weekend. also what chicago's major was caught doing. come join us as america reports, top of the hour. for over 80 years that's been the motto of superman, but no more. jen lee announced they're dropping the american way from the super hero's slogan. instead it will be replaced with and a better tomorrow. wow, jason. american way to a better tomorrow. huh. >> jason: that is so weak and so
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-- look, it's just validating why i was so into aqua man versus superman. >> kayleigh: harris, in 2011, superman renounced his u.s. citizenship and he declared i'm tired of having my actions construed of u.s. policy. >> harris: really? i mean, goodness. i'm still blown away by that clip. no one has side burns like him. did you see that? those side burns were great. look, i don't think there's any confusion here. we're being told not to love our country, or at least it feels that way. i guess hollywood thinks they can do that. they can. all we have to do is say, no thank you. you do that with your money. >> kayleigh: here's what the creative officer had to say. to better reflect the story
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lines we are telling to honor superman's incredible legacy of over 80 years of building a better world, super man's motto is evolving. he has been a symbol of hope. it is that optimism and hope that powers him forward with this new mission statement. so say parentally it's not optimistic to say the american way. >> emily: that's the problem with those statements. as you read them, that makes sense, but he's dismantling his ideology. why can't we add on more things? bring in a new character that is country -- >> harris: that's what i was hoping you'd say. >> emily: there are so many elements you can embrace and include and grow with without having to destroy and destruct what was already there. >> harris: what's the fun in that? then they can't tell us we're all wrong. it's the cancel culture.
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they want to call us all wrong. >> kayleigh: is he an instrument of policy? >> emily: now he's the instrument of the chinese communist party. wearing down the edges so you can play these movies in china. they only have so many american movies they show every year. any time they do something like this, it's china pulling the strings. >> kayleigh: great point. coming up, you may remember this moment when street artist destroyed his art after it sold for $1.4 million. now that version just went up for auction and it shredded the previous price tag, next. bogeys on your six, limu. they need customized car insurance from liberty mutual
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>> 4 million, 4.5 million, 4.5. and selling, ladies and gentlemen, for a new world record. sold to you! >> kayleigh: the infamous self-destructing art work fetching a stunning eight figure price tag. a london auction house selling girl with balloons for a whopping $25.4 million. that's more than 18 times what it cost in 2018 when it sold for $1.4 million. the piece made headlines after it was originally sold back in 2018 because a shredder went up, slicing the bottom half of the canvas into strips. witnesses were shocked. ironically, though, it seems the move has greatly increased its value. kennedy, sort of like throwing the hunten widen name on to a
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piece of work. >> harris: and shredding it. >> emily: he's like, i'm banksy, i swear. no one knows who banksy is. you still see some of his graffiti throughout work city. at one point he did set up shop and was selling his own prints for $25 a pop in central park. people had no idea. now those pieces of art are worth a lot of money. it was a performative aspect and increased the value. well done, free market. >> kayleigh: like superman. no one knows clark kent is superman and he could be among us every day. >> jason: incredibly talented artist. i can't wait to -- somebody at some point is going to get to interview this person and we'll know who he or she is. i'd be fascinated. i'm enthralled. i like watching ufo's, big foot and what's going on with banksy.
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those things enthrall me. i'll watch anything about them. >> kayleigh: russ guttfeld did a piece about an art work. what's better. the invisible portrait or the hunter biden portrait? >> >> thank you, emily, fox news ark letter to kickoff "america reports." man whose accomplishments were consequential to american life he was awarded presidential medal of freedom twice. he has died at the age of 84. general colin powell's family announcing he died from complications due to covid-19. i'm sandra smith in new york, hi, john. >> john: sad day to start this week. colin powell was an american trailblazer, the first black national security advisor chairman of the joint chiefs of
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