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as always we thank you so much for joining us. we also hope you will set your dvr so you never miss an episode. it is easy to do, even i can do it. very simple. anyway, but in the meantime i have some really, really good news. let not your hearts be troubled because laura ingraham, top rated show on cable last night. we were close but you topped us, ubs. i give full credit. great job last night. what a fun night. >> laura: it was fun. it reminded me of 2016 fun. it was actually fun. >> sean: can we duplicate this in 2022 and 2024? that is all i'm asking. >> laura: no doubt, but don't you think some of the italian vote in new jersey got a little sick of the attacks on christopher columbus? no one has talked about that but i have a lot of friends in bergen county and they are like, people were killing each other, it was a horrible time but they really took offense to the attacks on columbus and columbus
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day. i know it is just a small issue but i kept hearing that all day long from people. >> sean: how close it was and i know you had the republican candidate like we do and it was so close. i am like, this is a tsunami election. now, republicans, though, they've got to get their act together, run on the platform and mean it and stand behind it. >> laura: you better come and i loved your interview with the new lieutenant governor, winsome series. she is awesome, that was a fantastic interview. great show, see you tomorrow. i am laura ingraham. this is the ingraham angle from washington tonight. the aftershocks from last night republican -- were felt. and you know the old adage, all politics is local, it will play out in big waves for republicans. we will talk to some patriots on the front lines that you haven't heard from and raymond arroyo is
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our tour guide to the carnage that was the media's reaction last night. plus, going to explain why the race card. i should say the house of race cards, the whole thing crashed and burned. but first, the definition of insanity. that is the focus of tonight's angle. last night predicted that most democrats would glean all the wrong lessons from their republican victories and today, i was proven right. the progressives were back at it on capitol hill today instead of hitting the brakes on their radical spending spree, they want to slam on the accelerator. >> is it for your agenda? >> paid family leave going back into the bill without joe manchin's okay. >> i am so excited that it is going back in the bill. it's been a priority of the progressive caucus for a long time and we are thrilled. >> terry mcauliffe has been saying for weeks, tied to the
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progress of negotiations here on capitol hill and there ought to be a clear message. >> what went wrong last night? >> failure to deliver. >> laura: all wrong. still miss reading the electorate. bernie sanders was not elected president. biden was. there was a failure to deliver but terry mcauliffe turned out a record number of democrat voters. but the problem was republicans came out in bigger numbers and not for spending trillions on new entitlements or amnesty for illegals and into our energy independence. none of that. this was one of my favorite exchanges of the day with a liberal progressive member of the house appropriations committee. even the cnn anchor seemed exasperated. >> what lessons can be learned from the virginia race? >> number one thing they wanted democrats with majorities to get something done. >> you didn't get it done before the virginia race because they were holding up the
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infrastructure bill. >> i'm a journalism major. the only people who ask me when we are going to pass the bill or report is. >> it was passed in august. it's been four months, so that could have actually created -- democrats could have said they passed something -- >> you guys are all an anxious sort. >> i'm saying you can run on a message of -- >> if you let me finish. >> go ahead. >> if a lot easier if i'm allowed to toggles also. >> i've given you plenty of time. >> we now have paid family medical leave for four weeks in the bill -- >> but you know, senator -- >> people will feel that. what we call this is the storm before the calm. >> laura: the man sits on the appropriations committee and he thinks next year is going to be the calm? because we are going to spend trillions of dollars and eventually just make energy more and more expensive for the average american? by the way, magically, the new
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climate corps will miraculously make inflation disappear. isn't that great trick? voters in virginia and new jersey are not stupid. they know what nancy pelosi, chuck schumer, the whole crew want to do and they know it's going to cause more inflation and lower the standard of living for everyone but the very rich or the very well-connected. suburban moms cared a lot about education, for sure, but the economy, supply chain issues, empty stores on christmas, that bothers them a heck of a lot too. democrats managed to even lose 75th house of delegates district in virginia, which is majority black. of course, the very forces that drag the democrats down, though, are still betting it all on the race issue. >> youngkin led the race card for a reason because they know it works on certain white voters. >> racism raised its ugly head
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and the candidate used it accurately. >> feeding them anger and resentment. because some of it was dog whistle racism. >> 1000%. >> laura: time for a biden impersonation. it's not working. the example of the jamaican born winsome series, you just saw her on sean hannity, virginia's new lieutenant governor. she makes them all look like frogs. oh, and a few were talking about cuban-american jason mayor is who won the race for attorney general in virginia. both are first in the old dominion but of course we know democrats only prattle on about firsts when they are on their team. the populist conservative movement was already gaining hispanic support under trump and that support is only growing. john trinity of real clear politics noted that the shifts of new jersey should be much more concerning to democrats
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than the more or less uniform swing we saw in virginia. biggest swings from 2017 are in heavily hispanic areas. now we are going to talk more about the hispanic issue later on in the show but somehow, democrats conclude that the way to stop the bleeding with hispanic voters is to spend hundreds of billions of dollars on climate change and universal pre-k? and how exactly will hispanic small business owners, and there are thousands and thousands, stay fully staffed when democrat policies would just make it easier for people to stay home longer. my friends, this is sheer madness. trim spree precovet economic success demonstrated how to do it. he did it. the fact is democrats long ago lost touch with the beating heart of middle america, the middle class, the blue-collar work for us jobs were deported
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overseas and they didn't care. their fathers and sons are dying of drugs crossing our border and they don't care. they are losing their jobs because of vaccine mandates but the democrats don't care, they wrote the vaccine mandates. now the same blue-collar workers are struggling to fill up their gas tanks and no one on the left cares. perhaps democrats should remember what happened the last time they ran through their dream legislation despite having zero republican support. >> you see all that read, all that flashing at home, those of republican pickups and we are nowhere near finished, we do know they will win more than 50 seats, most likely more than 60 and it is everywhere. north, west, south, it is a shellacking. >> laura: the 2010 results were a total rejection of obamacare but obama didn't try to dodge responsibility.
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>> this vote confirmed what i've heard from folks all across america. people are frustrated, they are deeply frustrated with the pace of economic recovery and the opportunities that they hope for their children and their grandchildren and as president i take responsibility for that. >> laura: today of course, his veep for eight years refused to take any responsibility. >> reporter: you take some responsible to? >> i'm not sure i would have been able to change the number of very conservative folks who turned out in red districts who were trump voters, but may be maybe. i know we did, but also, i was running against donald trump. >> laura: that is such an embarrassing answer. but while the democrats's willful ignorance is a boon to republicans, and it is, it is going to be terrible for the
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country. those who least deserve to suffer will be forced to suffer. those who least deserve a big payday will get one. but a year from now all americans will have their say in the midterms and the day after, the same experts keep getting paid to be wrong will again try to explain away the democrat defeat. never acknowledging that it is because their policies are destroying the american dream. it's the definition of insanity, and that is the angle. joining me now is arkansas senator tom cotton. senator, good to have you want tonight. the democrats were routed come after obamacare in 2010, but aren't these new spending bills actually worse than obamacare? >> laura, this is the definition of insanity with almost every democratic congress doubling down saying they need to go even bigger and bolder and faster to pass their reckless tax and spending bills but i can tell you that is not with the body
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would said. they looked like the voters walked over their grave last night because the voters in new jersey and virginia and for that matter places like san antonio and long island in minneapolis and seattle all repudiated the democrats radical agenda. they know the multitrillion dollar spending deal is going to make prices they pay at the gas pump in the grocery store go up. it is riddled with billions of $ of equity programs, in equity, whatever that means, and it is going to encourage local school districts to continue to push critical race theory, now down to pre-k if the federal government gets its hands on prekindergarten education. that is why the democrats got repudiated last night but they have no answer in congress today. >> laura: joe biden thinks again that this massive spending bill is just a silver bullet for
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everything this country faces. watch. >> people are upset and uncertain about a lot of things. from covid to school to jobs to a whole range of things and a cost of a gallon of gasoline. and so if i am able to pass, signed into law on my build better initiative, i am in a position where you're going to see a lot of those things ameliorated quickly and swiftly. >> laura: senator, how will his bill do anything to change, for instance, the price of gasoline, which is breaking a lot of budgets right now. just that issue. >> not only will it do nothing to address these challenges, it will make many of them worse. every american with an ounce of common sense knows that if the federal government continues to shower trillions of dollars on this economy, it is going to drive inflation even higher. they know this bill has nothing
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to do with coronavirus. the problems in our schools are created by democratic governors and school boards who shut our schools down and keep our kids and masks in when they do have them in schools, try to teach them to hate america and call their parents domestic terrorist if they complain about it. that is what is wrong with the schools, it has nothing to do with the bill they are trying to pass right now. >> laura: your colleagues who claim to be moderates, warner, virginia, showed up yesterday, hadn't seen him in months but joe manchin, kyrsten sinema. don't they need to start listening to their constituents and our their constituents clamoring for a climate core and 75,000 more irs agents and all the other things that go along with it? >> no, laura but that is why there really aren't any moderate democrats left in the congress. there are only vulnerable democrats and some of those, you mentioned, are up for reelection
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this year. others in states like arizona, nevada, georgia in new hampshire that i can't imagine are very eager to vote on this mismatch of democratic priorities. look at the house of representatives. you've got democratic congressman from virginia and new jersey who if they were on the ballot last night would have lost their seats. nancy pelosi -- >> laura: sorry, go ahead. >> go ahead, laura. they do what nancy pelosi said in the years after obamacare. after the 2010 election when republicans had a historic victory that it was worth losing the house to pass obamacare. that is the way she feels now and she's talking about those democrats and vulnerable districts in new jersey and virginia and elsewhere, they should think long and hard about whether they want to walk the plank for nancy pelosi to have a capstone of her career, a bill that is going to solve none of america's problems. >> laura: virginia voters, montana voters, they all have to make their voices heard in phone
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calls to the senators. got to stop the madness. senator cotton, great to see you. after last night's results the the g.o.p. is expanding its list of the vulnerable democrats will target in 2022. today the national republican congressional committee added 13 new names to its target list. now it is a total of 70, wow. but how many more names could be added before 2022? joining me now is house minority whip steve scalise. you're not letting that grass grow under your feet a very long. i love it. tell us about the strategy. >> after last night is an even bigger playing field of democrats in swing districts. a month ago if you were in a district that joe biden won by 12 points, you probably thought you were safe and it was just a few members were maybe trump won by one or two or three that were the vulnerable ones. last night's joe biden won by ten points in virginia and he lost by two points last night. make no mistake, joe biden's
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agenda was on the ballot last night. there were a lot of things rejected by the voters last night. big government socialism was the biggest thing voters rejected and they also reject a critical race theory, defunding the police was rejected. the idea that union bosses are more important than parents and a kid's education. that was rejected too. if you are a democrat not just in states like virginia and new jersey. any district in the country, if joe biden won by ten or 12 points, those districts -- by the way, they can bring joe biden because terry mcauliffe brought out all the big guns come all the leftists. >> laura: none of it mattered. >> come here is might have said it best when she said what happens in virginia is ultimately going to be what happens in 2022 and 2024. >> laura: i wanted to move on to the family leave issue with dominic which the progressive say is key to winning back all the disaffected parents.
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watch. >> we have the ability to pass a bill that provides child care, pre-k, that provides jobs in the build back better agenda. what we are doing is cutting costs for working families. >> laura: okay. paid family medical leave, they were told that joe manchin will not sign on to what they are pushing in just that one issue. is that going to change? what are they doing? >> they keep doubling down on the failures that the voters last night said in blue states committees more swing states, purple states, these were hard blue states like stomach new jersey where they said spending is leading to inflation in their answer today is to go d pass this crazy multitrillion dollar bill to pay people not to work, to tax people. there is a natural gas tax in their bill.
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it is low income families, middle-income families. taxes them to give $450,000 checks -- >> laura: biden says that wasn't happening. biden claims -- >> he won't take it out. >> laura: the aclu came back tonight and said well, if he is not aware, i am paraphrasing, that this is what is planned, 450,000 per family, could go up higher, then it is a betrayal. if they come back and it is up a of what we were told, joe biden doesn't even know what his own handlers are agreeing to on his behalf. i found that to be disturbing. that is not happening. apparently it is happening. who is in charge? speak of the justice department is negotiating. the same justice department that was going after parent saying they are domestic terrorist if they go to the school board meetings. >> laura: how did that work out? >> and merrick garland who they said would a moderate on the
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supreme court, what a joke that is. he still won't resend that order because they want to go down the far left big government socialist path but voters don't want it. >> laura: can we expect a 50 states, not a rustbelt florida, pennsylvania wisconsin strategy but a 50 state strategy moving all the way through 2024, can we expect that? >> absolutely and it's a lot like 2010. we won in states where we never won before. he will see the northeast and play, the west coast in play. it is all going to go back to this rejection of big government socialism you saw last night in a number of states. virginia would probably be the most prominent. >> laura: we are looking for 1984 style victory, not 2010. 1984 and 2024. exactly. congressman scalise, thank you. the red wave didn't just sweep across virginia, across the nation conservatives dominated and far left causes were rejected. we are going to take you on a
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new jersey. this repudiation stretched coast-to-coast. it's time for around the country in 90 seconds, the election addition. princeton, new jersey, where a trucker who spent 153 box on his campaign is on track to defeat the democratic senate president. a man seen as one of the most powerful democratic legislatures in the country and adjust to the north in new york, republicans crushed democrats in two district attorney's races in long island and what is being seen as a stunning rebuke of new york's bail reform law. while not technically a g.o.p. win, the crushing defeat of the socialist democratic candidate of buffalo's mayoral position is another resounding defeat for the far left. likewise pro-business, pro-law enforcement democrat adams won the new york race. and a seat was flipped that biden won by 14 points last year and that is majority hispanic.
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up north in colorado more than half the denver school board could be replaced after a slate of conservative candidates swept their races. is the left coast turning as well? a resounding victory was won in seattle's district attorney race over the self-described lease abolitionist. a city of george floyd voters rejected a ballot measure to defund the minneapolis police department. american voters aren't stupid. they have spoken in the left is not welcome here and that is around the country in about 90 seconds. it's time to meet two of the people behind last night's victory. joining me now is angela allen who won her virginia school board race after being turned off by one party rule and john samuels, former minneapolis city council member who fought against this reimagining of the police. i will start with you, congratulations on your win. what is driving moms like you to run for these positions?
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>> thank you so much for having me on, laura, and i will tell you it is because we are in charge of parenting our children, not the progress of radicals that trying to indoctrinate them. so moms around her virginia stood up and glenn youngkin's message resonated with them and we couldn't be more excited to be writing this beautiful red wave through our state. >> laura: interesting, and that group behind ballot question number two that would have defunded the minneapolis police department was propped up with a flood of out-of-state cash. they got $175,000 in donations from the aclu of new york and 220k from the solidarity action fund in california and $60,000 from open policy center founded by george soros. how did you feel about outside groups trying to basically dismantle your city's police department?
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>> we found that a little disturbing because we here know what our needs are and what our threats are and we are ready to move forward as best we could and reforming the police at this opportunity and time after the death of george floyd, and the admission that we didn't need change in policing by everyone, i think that was exploited to some degree by forces outside our city, so the boat was a resounding sort of democratic revolution, if you will, in our city to say we are going to come back from the extremes and find practical solutions that won't betray us in our outcomes making things worse. >> laura: i like the idea of a common sense analysis, don. and angela, i think you're coming at it from a common sense point of view too. i don't know anybody who doesn't think the evils of slavery should be taught really clearly
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to our kids and heroes of the abolitionist movement, their story should be taught, that should be obvious. but going on with state and federal control, local educational decisions. how important was that. >> it was critical for me and the virginia constitution dictates that local school boards should be governed by elected members of their community. we continue to be subject to overreach here, and they've had enough. they understand that they found the public school system and therefore their voices should be represented in the decisions that are made in terms of the curriculum and the policies that are put forth for our students. >> laura: just a few weeks
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ago, congresswoman ilhan omar, representing a lot of the damage and destruction that was done in the wake of the floyd killing, and she actually supported the dismantling of the police and so did keith ellison, the state ag in minnesota. but she also ends up blaming the police for bringing this on themselves, the issue of defund. what is happening with the democrats if they don't see how important the issue of safety on the streets for the good people of minneapolis and frankly st. paul as well. why are they out of touch? >> this is pretty much a democratic city so our vote reflects our values. i think to the congresswoman and the attorney general were out of touch, in fact, with the voters on this issue and last night's victory said that in fact the people of minneapolis want a
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sensible solution to both renegade police officers and the cultural of policing and to keeping our communities safe. it is both/and, not either or. to be either or was going to win on the either and put the or at great risk. meaning the 30 children who were shot in our city, the 80 people who were killed, 85% of them being african-americans shot, same percentage. this is what the people of minneapolis want, this is what they voted for -- >> laura: safety. you mean the safety i was on the streets north of lake street, am i saying that right? with the entire precinct was burned down. i was there a couple months after the floyd killing, and i was in tears. it was still smoldering. it was horrific to see it and
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the people don't deserve that. they don't deserve it. they don't deserve the damage, they don't deserve bad policing, but ilhan omar says we don't want your damn reforms. >> we are proud of our voters and grateful to the people of minneapolis for making the common sense approach. >> laura: don, angela, thank you for being out there and explaining these issues to us tonight and what was the missing element that drove the seismic elections nationwide last night? raymond arroyo is going to reveal it. seen and unseen next. plain aspirin could be hurting your stomach. new vazalore is the first liquid-filled aspirin capsule clinically shown to cause fewer ulcers than plain aspirin. vazalore is designed to help protect... releasing aspirin after it leaves your stomach... where it is absorbed to give you the benefits of life saving aspirin... to help prevent another heart attack or stroke. heart protection with your stomach in mind. try new liquid-filled vazalore.
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we will let you know if he makes any news. it's time for seen and unseen where we unpacked the cultural side of the seismic elections. we turned to fox news contributor, author of the book the spiders who stole christmas. the reaction to these results, it was amazing. >> we live and i'm predicable times, the republican's leading in virginia by 84,000 votes, that is a shock to the system. >> very sobering, unexpected, surprisingly. i didn't expect the night to go that badly for democrats for democrats. >> underperforming by more than ten points. >> this is what happens when certain media refused to cover parental unrest over curricula or backlash over lockdowns. when the people speak is and oh, my god, moment. these of the events and movement they've never even considered. >> laura: it's like if a tree falls in the forest, it doesn't fall if no one sees it.
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they refused to really report on it fairly, so of course, was that jake tapper saying oh, my god? was that he? at least it is an honest reaction, whatever. this is how the other networks try to explain youngkin's victory in virginia. >> it is not worth democrats positivist time to play the blame game but they should be pressing the reset button on how they respond to these horrible racist dog whistles from the g.o.p. and the lies from the g.o.p. >> white voters do have anxiety about a changing america. it is blacker, it is browner. >> it was not a dog whistle, it was a bullhorn. >> this is sloppy coming expect more from andrea mitchell. very impressive, and hispanic attorney general. in fact, youngkin expanded trumps hispanic support in the state.
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trump got 76% of the vote. youngkin last night, 55% or so it may not be a dog whistle but it could be a marriott g horn. one democrats should be very wary of. >> laura: this is great news. >> it is great news, you see growth among democrats. new jersey voters, those across the country are not stupid. they see the president on the world stage. this was yesterday and moments like this, no doubt have an impact on the vote. watch. >> the operation and the gouging that occurs in some of the crossing of beef and chicken and other things is anyone who would prefer things as bad as they are in terms of crisis hurting families and now, trade this thanksgiving for last thanksgiving.
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>> and easter and flag day, grandparents day, juneteenth, what was the question? he is so out of it but people are voting against this kind of wandering, meandering. not only syntax, leadership. he doesn't even know what is in his own bills. then today, the president literally undermined his own narrative on vaccinations as he delivered it to. >> after almost 18 months of anxious worrying every time a child had a sniffle, we have already sent millions of doses. millions of doses and millions more to come by next week. these doses will be available at approximately -- excuse me. i beg your pardon. swallowed wrong. >> and they think racism fueled the votes in virginia? 's why reach for our conspiracy theories when the stories in front of your face, rambling and
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coughing all over the place trying to get your attention. voters wanted calm from biden and instead they have gotten unsteady, expensive chaos. this is the payback you saw last night. >> laura: you have an update also on the veterans homeless camp story that we covered recently in l.a. come all these illegal immigrants crossing the border and some are going to get $450,000 if they were separated under trump, apparently. everyone is in on that deal. you brought this story to the fore on the vets who are homeless. >> the full story as part of your new california on the edge fox nation special but that story helped move the veterans administration this week and they are allowing veterans to finally after 18 months, get tense off the streets and onto the 388 acres of the va grounds that were actually intended for them. it's a start but none of these men should be intense.
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the b.a. was supposed to build them 500 units of housing. that has yet to happen. we are going to stay on the story but let me tell you, at least they are off the streets. i spoke to robert reynolds tonight who has been such a great advocate on this. iraqi war vet and he is thankful but we are going to follow up on this. this is the least they can do for these men. >> laura: illegal immigrants get treated like first-class citizens and our veterans get treated like, i don't know, fourth class citizens. >> can't get a shower. >> laura: thank you for doing that story, and california on the edge is now available fox nation. i think you will enjoy it. another issue that drove voters was vaccine mandates. after the left was repudiated on the issue san francisco has just announced the most pernicious mandate yet. one that is going to target 5 to 11-year-olds. we will tell you what it entails and speak to two parents fighting back in moments.
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life. >> what about going into a restaurant or warriors game. is that going to apply to children's 5211. we have to wait and make sure that children have an opportunity to get vaccinated, so that will have been sooner than about eight weeks after the vaccine is available to kids. >> laura: these people are demonic. what they are not telling you is that san francisco has not had a single covid death among people under 20 years old. not one. joining me now, mother of five just outside of san francisco, and board-certified md, phd research scientist, father of two, what is your reaction when you heard the city is planning to force vaccines on kids, otherwise no public events, apparently, for them.
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>> thanks for having me. absolutely ridiculous. there's not enough science behind this right now, and parents are concerned and rightly so. i think it's important that we take the time to make sure our children will be safe, especially when they are at such a low rate of risk. it's not necessary to rush into this. give it a little time. we don't have science backing the long-term effects of it and i think, again, there is no rush for this. >> laura: there is virtually no risk. >> let's be really clear. the risk to children 5211 who have no underlying conditions, it is virtually nil. and san francisco held a virtual town hall with doctors yesterday about whether or not they would give children the vaccine, here
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is their response. >> my colleagues i work with who have children 5211 are constantly texting me, when can i schedule appointments? >> although i do not personally have children, i have already gotten on my family group chat telling them that they should be getting their kids vaccinated. >> laura: doctor, they don't have kids but they want to tell us what to do with our kids, or san franciscans what to do with their kids. medically how does the cost/benefit analysis go for kids and the vaccine? >> i'm glad you asked. there has to be a cost connected with risk, benefits and need. why take it come if i am in pain i don't take a pain medicine, for example. that is not the case with the
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vaccine. they both did a pretty good evaluation based on the limited available available today based on the risks and benefits of the vaccine. they didn't really look at the medical need as much but when they look at the risk benefit, what they did find is that there was some potential benefit. there was no reduction in hospitalization, infection or deaths shown. i guess because it was a sample size of kids who got the vaccine. they didn't show any severe side effects, however we know that some of the really severe side effects or adverse events are rare but in the sample size of 3,000 it is too small of a subset population to really assess whether there really are risks that are more rare than one in 3,000 or not and that remains to be seen. the fda admittedly used on the actual hard data but what they consider modeling in order to make their decision and eventually give that authorization in the modeling is as good as the model. in the model admitted that under
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four of the scenarios they tested, one of them failed and that was when there is relatively low community infection rate and low community transmission rate. so in that case it is slam-dunk even based on the fda's best case modeling. this is not necessarily a winning argument. >> laura: i will say to both of you that dr. cratchit was on msnbc tonight, we don't have to play it but he was like, we are scrupulous in how we do the cost-benefit analysis and it is favorable. fauci is still out there and the goal, i'm sorry, is to terrify parents. that is the goal and bernadette, they're positively giddy about getting the kids vaccinated. the cost/benefit analysis, he's beyond brilliant, your thoughts now. is it even a close call given
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what we know now in this sample size? >> i'm going to be honest and i wrote this down because i didn't want to get his quote wrong but when they met on october 26 and they talked about whether or not they were going to approve this or not in five to 11-year-olds, he said we are never going to learn about how safe the vaccine is until we start giving it, that is the way it goes. these are our children. they are not guinea pigs. i'm sorry, this is science we are going by, let's just see what happens. if this is the approach they are taking i am truly concerned. i think more parents really need to look into this. >> laura: and i am sorry, it doesn't seem like it is about the virus. bernadette, dr. hammadi, we will have you both back and the last bite, how cnn handled the topic we just discussed. ♪ you are my sunshine ♪ ♪ my only sunshine... ♪
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>> i was pretty nervous then i said to myself i have to do it to protect the world. >> i just want to be safe from covid but i think i could do more so i got the vaccine. and it was really a me choice. >> a me choice. [cheers and applause] >> so, a that was a big night not because cat final a finished her snoopy jigsaw puzzle. a little perseverance can payoff. that went over well. all right. but also the election for the latest election count let's go to our
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