>> rachel: "all-american christmas" is available at fox news books.com for preorder. thank you for watching "fox news primetime" this week. lawrence jones will be hosting, and don't miss "fox & friends" from 6:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. up next, my friend will cain's guest hosting for tucker carlso. >> will: good evening, and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." i am will cain in for tucker. disturbing phone calls started coming into jacksonville sheriff's police office on a wednesday night just a few weeks ago. motorists had reported seeing a man covered in blood walking along the highway. and then he disappeared into the woods. when authorities finally arrested the man the next morning, they identified him as a honduran migrant named medina although i. he claimed to be a teenager. authorities followed the trail of blood left to find his

victim, a 46-year-old father of four. security camera showed him stabbing a man multiple times and beating him to death with a tear in his own home, just a terrible story. investigators suspect he was lying about his identity so they checked in with the honduran consulate and that is when they found out that he is not, in fact, a teenager. he is actually 23 years old, and he is in this country illegally. so how did he get here? it turned out he did not sneak across the border. he did not overstay his visa. instead, according to a report in "the new york post," ulloa cross the border under a fake name pretending to be an unaccompanied migrant had in keeping with the biden administration immigration policy come he was let into the country and placed into a shelter, and then he was released. the biden administration then put ulloa on a secret resettlement flight to florida.

a governor of florida ron desantis has called this what it is. it is a deliberate effort by the biden administration to endanger american citizens in exchange for political power. >> this individual has been detained, should have never been in this country to begin with, and definitely should not have been dumped in the state of florida, and so these are middle of the night flights. no notification to the state or anybody, and this is not the way you keep people safe. >> will: no, it's not. the biden administration is not just letting a record number of illegal immigrants in our border, they are bringing them here. they are prohibiting immigration authorities from deporting them, even ones with violent criminal records. to be clear: this is against the law. section 236c of the immigration and nationality act requires i.c.e. to arrest and hold almost all removable criminal aliens. congress passed that law.

and joe biden is simply ignoring it. the same way he ignores pesky questions at a press conference by turning his back and shuffling away, he is shuffling away from this problem. now that is why the state of texas is currently suing the biden administration. they want the law enforced, it is part of that lawsuit, we are starting to learn much more about the kind of people the biden administration is allowing to stay in the country. jason clark, he is the chief of staff of the texas department of criminal justice. he said in an affidavit obtained by this show that i.c.e. has rescinded detainers for at least 130 illegal immigrants between january 20th and october 20th, so what does that mean? rescinding detainers? that means i.c.e. no longer wants to take custody of these illegal immigrants when they are released in order to deport them. i.c.e. shows no interest. following their orders not to deport these criminals. now look, just to give you an idea of how unprecedented this is, no detainers, zero, were

rescinded in the same time period one year ago. minor criminals we are talking about that i.c.e. is refusing to deport. the affidavit states one of the immigrants allowed to stay in the country as a man named rolando, and conflicted of intoxicated manslaughter with a vehicle. another example, charles, he was imprisoned for theft of property worth more than $2500. he was released from texas custody in february. i.c.e. never arrested him. they dropped his detainer. luis rodriguez was released in september, he was therefore having multiple dwis. and another had her detainer dropped by i.c.e. in march. she was locked up for credit card -- when police found her, they found her with cards p cards. but nothing tops 24-year-old was a reyes.

reyes was arrested by i.c.e. in 2018. he was later released. less than a year after that, reyes was convicted of drunk driving. he was again released. then he decided to become a poet. he spoke at an open border protest that attacked i.c.e. for enforcing immigration laws. >> dear america, our immigration has failed. they pass laws against our people, took away our rights and freedom, and still expect. dear america, your administration cause fear through separation. oppressed. i live in my life in frustratio. mass incarceration. you make the connection. it is time to begin standing up for what is right.

criminalizing children, step rating families come our national security, does this make it all right? >> will: beautiful. you can tell by the music. less than 24 hours after reading that moving poem, reyes was arrested again by i.c.e. most treated it as an outrage. two nfl players helped pay for raz's bail. now, tonight, reyes is on the run again. but this time, for allegedly murdering a 58-year-old man and throwing his body in an orchard. i wonder, is there a poem for that? the biden administration's so-called build back better act would help a lot more people like jose reyes get out of jail. it would require dhs to grant parole to virtually every illegal alien who has lived in this country for the past decade, and that means they can stay here without any fear of deportation. the democrats bill would allow illegal immigrants with dui convictions and even gang

members to qualify for parole. and you, by the way, would be paying for this amnesty. $2.8 billion is allocated in the bill to process applications for amnesty as "efficiently as possible." in other words, the white house white house is at the upset people like jose reyes or medina ulloa are getting out of jail. they are upset that it is taking them so long to be sprung on the public. former acting i.c.e. director jonathan fahey joins us now. jonathan, thank you for being with us tonight. i think that the obvious question is why? why is the biden administration actively allowing criminals to remain in this country against the law? >> well, i think from your lead in you really showed the real-life consequences of these policies, and i think the reason is obvious. it is pure cynical politics. there is nothing else to this. i used to think -- or want to

say maybe they are just unserious or incompetent, but this is exactly what they want to have happen and they basically said it during the campaign in 2020 and every step of the way, that is what they have been doing. they have not been enforcing any of the laws whatsoever, not wanting to even kick out the most serious criminals or gang members, and we are seeing the consequences of this, what you just talked about. and it is horrible. it is horrific. and it is not just on -- we are going to see it on the national security level, and this is entirely preventable, but we will not stop because they see this as a political advantage to them and they will continue this policy. their policies. >> will: yeah, jonathan, i can add it up. as we see illegal immigrants amassed at our southern border, you can see what ron desantis laid out from a trade of security for political power, for votes. but it does not seem to me that it requires you to allow murderers, in some cases, a legend murderers, and dui convictions to remain. why even the worst?

by the criminals are allowed to remain? >> i think that really is the point, because they want to incentivize as many people to come here illegally, so if you put it out there, even if you do the worst possible thing, commit the most horrific crime, you will get to stay. the message is so clear to anyone out there that wants to come here. you can come here and there is no scenario you will be kicked out, and while you are here, you will receive every right, every privilege, every benefit that american citizens receive comment in many cases you get more. you know, we are seeing real-life consequences and real-life victims that you are talking about it, and this is just the tip of the iceberg. and there are so many more that the media doesn't even report on, and what is really horrible is everyone knows this is happening now and we are going to have more horrific crimes like the one you talked about earlier, and it is preventable, and they still won't prevent it. they want this to happen. you look at the way the

administration has handled this from the beginning, with the vice president as the border czar, and i guess at some point she either abandon her duties or was relieved of her duties, but even when she was handling their duties, you know, talking about the root causes and all of these other things, i think everyone realized how silly and unserious this was, and i think they just abandoned the roll, as she has really assumed more of a ceremonial roll at this point, instead of dealing with the border crisis, instead of dealing with these real issues, she is talking to child actors about space exploration and flipping coins at football games, but these are real problems, real victims. it is only getting worse, and they are not going to change. they haven't sold any signs of wanting to change. >> will: yeah, the vice president has a ceremonial roll, the border is -- and the price is a human lives american safety. thanks for being with us

tonight. the migrant caravan heading toward this country is now surprise, getting violent. fox news trace gallagher has a story for us about what we are actually seeing on the screen right now. trace, those are disturbing images. >> yeah, will, this caravan is made up of some 4,000 migrants, mostly women and children who began their trek late october from near the guatemala-mexico border and two weeks later, the group is still in mexico, just 90 miles from where they began and that is because mexico is trying to contain them in the south so they don't reach the u.s. border, but to do that, mexico is ratcheting up enforcement. things like warning truckers they will be criminally charged if they pick up migrants and sending in the mexican national guard, which is leading to some clashes, as you can see. some of the clashes, one of the caravan organizers says migrants have been badly beaten, but it is also very clear that the migrants are also attacking members of the national guard

with rocks and bottles. last week, a cuban migrant apparently tried to use his jeep to run through a checkpoint and was shot and killed by the guard, and the longer this trip takes, the more dangerous it becomes. there are already numerous reports of migrants getting sick, though it is unclear with what, and of course, the ultimate reason these migrants are coming north is because they have social media and they believe they stand a very good chance of getting into the united states, just like hundreds of thousands of others who have gotten in over the last seven months, and once they get in, migrants are aware of sanctuary status and benefits in california and other states, not to mention now the possibility of taking legal action against the u.s. and getting a settlement. will? >> will: wow, incentive, impunity, those are the words that come to mind. as laws become the suggestions and go on and forced, criminals act with impunity. trace gallagher. thank you so much, trace. so, nfl mvp aaron rodgers, he is

fighting back against the media and the "walmart" because they are shaming him for being unvaccinated. you have to hear the story coming up next. and don't forget, during the break, you can unlock and stream all of tucker carlson's shows, including "patriot purge," free for 30 days, only on tuckercarlson.com. ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ wrong >> will: so green bay packers quarterback aaron rodgers, he just sat down for an interview with pat mcafee show. he said he was being little or no mic vilified by the woke left for his decision to remain unvaccinated. he is right, he is being vilified, because he challenged, for example, the white house's claim that this is a "pandemic of the unvaccinated." >> so this idea that it is the pandemic of the unvaccinated is just a total lie. i go back to these two questions for this woke mob, like, number one, if the vaccine is so great, then how come people are still getting covid and spreading covid and unfortunately dying from covid? like, if the vaccine is so safe, then how come the manufacturers

of the vaccine have full immunity? >> will: that is insightful. that is correct. rodgers did not stop there. he spoke also to mcafee about the importance of bodily autonomy. >> i am not, you know, some sort of anti-vax, flat-earther. i am somebody who is a critical thinker. you guys know me, i marched to the beat of my own drum. i believe strongly in bodily autonomy and the ability to make choices for your body, not to have to acquiesce to some woke culture or crazed, you know, group of individuals who say you have to do something. health is not a one-size-fits-all for everybody. >> will: you know in 2021, sanity is treated as conspiracy, and now the nfl is reviewing whether aaron rodgers has violated any of its covid protocols, but rodgers points out those protocols, they are

all a charade. they have no basis in science. >> some of the rules to me are not based on science at all. they sincerely are trying to out and shame people, like needing to wear a mask at a podium when every person in the room is vaccinated and wearing a mask, makes no sense to me. if you got vaccinated to, you know, to protect yourself from a virus that i don't have as an unvaccinated individual, then why are you worried about anything i can do to you? >> will: so, aaron rodgers is not orthodox. he and i, for example, would disagree on a great many things, but aaron rodgers is correct about everything he told to pat mcafee. he is correct on ivermectin and natural immunity and studies out of india and israel and correct on the pseudoscience that is nfl's protocols, and while aaron rodgers is not orthodox, sports media is, and they are in the anatomy coming

after him. unanimous, 100% come every single sportswriter with a blue check mark has aaron rodgers in their target. joining me now is terrell markowitz of "the new york post." terrell, great to have you with me tonight. why do you think so many people are going after aaron rodgers? >> so, i think he hit a lot of things on the head. i keep having to say this, but i am pretty pro-vax, i got vaccinated as soon as it was eligible to me and i think most adults should get vaccinated, but i think there has been a lot of mistrust here. we have been lied to and led to believe things that are not true. we have been privy to this covid theater that he describes, people wearing masks even though people are vaccinated, it all is just sort of a smoke screen, and i understand why people have lost trust in our health officials and our health system, because they have lied to us again and again. they could have just been upfront and said honestly, guys like aaron rodgers probably don't need to get vaccinated. they probably will be okay, but

just in case, maybe do it instead of forcing them into it or instead of calling them anti-vaxers. >> will: karol, neither you or i have a reason to pull for aaron rodgers. we are both dallas cowboys fans and have suffered for aaron rodgers talent throughout the years, but you know, i have not lost my humanity. i feel like many have. when someone gets sick. when someone like aaron rodgers is diagnosed or test positive for covid, the response isn't "oh, my gosh, i hope you well wishes, i hope you survive, i hope everything goes well," instead it is to mock him, it is to chastise him, and i don't know, karol, that seems to tell me something about the real risk covid presents to a healthy adult. >> you are absolutely right. he said, and he is correct, there are people right now in the hospital who have been vaccinated for covid-19. the vaccines were never going to be foolproof, and you have to just sort of accept that and stop treating people who got vaccinated as if they did everything right and they behaved and they got sick

anyway. it is a virus. we are all going to eventually be exposed to it. we need to think about it in a really different way then we have been thinking about it, and i think the rigid ways our health officials have talked about it and acted about this vaccine, i don't think it has done anything. i think it has really been harmful. i think fewer people have gotten the vaccine because they feel so vied to do. >> will: karol, i am going to ask a question i thought about for years. i spent five years in sports media, but sports media is no more unique than the rest of the media. why is it everyone in the media shares the exact same opinion? why is sports media in 100% agreement that aaron rodgers is wrong? >> that's right. we are in a very conformist moment in this country. it is not just sports media, it is not just media. last year when schools were closed, i had a really hard time getting parents to talk to me on the record because they were so afraid of what their parents were going to think of them. they were afraid to come even more than that, that someone is going to call their work and say "jane wants teachers to die because she wants schools to open."

in a very canceling time right now, and i think people really feel it. aaron rodgers even seems concerned about being canceled, and he is one of the greater quarterbacks. >> will: it is objectively true. aaron rodgers is one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time. the media, as we are describing it, already laying the groundwork for a new vaccine mandates for children. 5-11-year-olds have been approved for the vaccine. now "sesame street" is getting in on the act. a "sesame street" town hall on the abcs of the coronavirus vaccine. let's watch together. >> my covid vaccine. my mommy and poppy took me to get it this morning. my mommy and poppy said it will help keep me, my friends, my neighbors, my abuela healthy.

>> your parents are absolutely right. covid vaccines are available for children five years and older and the more people who get them, the better we are going to be able to help stop the spread of covid. and keep everyone healthy. >> will: i didn't know sanja grouped us still had a voice after it was taken from him by joe rogan. meanwhile, new york city is bribing elementary school kids $100 if you get this shot. what are your thoughts on this propaganda and bribery? >> there has been a reason they are doing it, right, because it does not make sense otherwise. people are not going to give their kids a shot they need and are not able to explain why kids need this vaccination. in that clip, "i will protect my community and my abuela," but how? kids according to dr. fauci do not spread the virus and are not susceptible to it. completely disregarded all the facts, and nobody wants to face that anymore. the truth is, if that show was a

real, big bird would be shamed right now for not having his vaccination yet and how dare you, so that is really the reality, i think kids are going to be forced into it and going to be shamed into it and it is really unfortunate because they really don't need it. >> will: they would be more than shamed from i think he would be fired soon. pbs is a federally funded government corporation and i'm pretty sure that qualifies under joe biden's orders and big bird is out of a job according to the new vaccine mandates. we appreciate you being with us. see you, karol. >> thank you so much, will. >> will: joe biden has unveiled vaccine rules covering more than 100 million workers, at which would include big bird, i think. harmeet dhillon is representing several companies challenging the vaccine mandate. great to talk to you tonight. how is it looking for your clients who are hoping to remain employed after this vaccine mandate? >> well, so i represent one

major employer, the daily wire, to challenge this vaccine mandate and have also consulted with a number of companies that are concerned about it and have not yet taken any action. "daily wire" has over 100 employees, based in tennessee, and like many of the attorneys general in the united states and several countries around the country, they followed suit to e they do not believe as an employer they should have to get into their employees health care decisions. most of the executives at "the daily wire" are vaccinated and encourage people to get vaccinated but there is significant liability for the employer to know information about the employee health care status. if you happen to know about people's testing status and whether they are sick or not, a number of other issues about them, you can then be held liable when you want to let go of them for some performance-related reason. the vaccine mandates that have been issued by osha are unconstitutional. they exceed the power of osha to basically call american workers

toxic substances in the workplace and impose huge fines on employers. this is generally an area for a view of the states are supposed to manage, not the federal government, so we feel very good the legal challenges to this osha mandate are going to end up enjoying it, but that does not really fix whether states are going to do it and other legal issues surrounding this attempt by government and also private employers to believe their workers. >> will: i want to pick up on that, private employers. how unique come in your estimation, is "the daily wire?" why have we not heard from more for standing up against the vaccine mandates? >> they are brave and standing in the front of the culture wars. i have heard from dozens of employers who are more reticent about it. they do not want to get mocked in the media or boycotted are called antiscience when in fact none of them are antiscience. most american workers and american employers are largely vaccinated. it is a percentage of americans who made personal choice is not to or have religious or medical

reasons not to get vaccinated, so there is no crisis here. there is certainly no emergency that would mandate our federal government overstepping the police power and restrictions that are on it to impose this type of a rule, so i very much and cheering for our client and other clients around the country. all of these cases are likely to be consolidated in front of one court of appeals so we will know that in about nine days, to know where this case is going to be argued, then hopefully we will get a decision quickly because this rule goes into effect in 59 days, so we really have very little time to act. >> will: harmeet, i keep up with your work and watch your appearances on fox. i think this is fascinating and worth mentioning, some of these mandates actually empower the biggest corporations and helps them weed out some of their smaller competitors. what we fear here is an unholy alliance of big government and big corporations to punish individual medical decisions. that is something we need to focus on in the future. harmeet dhillon, thank you so much for being with us tonight. >> thanks. >> will: voters in virginia

just elected the first black woman lieutenant governor in the state, and yet, absurdly, and predictably, the left is calling her a white supremacist. i'm not sure, do you know, how does that work? that is straight ahead. during the break, you can unlock and stream all of tucker carlson shows, including "patriot purge," free for 90 days, only at tuckercarlson.com. ♪ ♪

>> will: so winsome sears is the new lieutenant governor-elect of the state of virginia. she has a black republican who does not support the left's racial grievance politics. she is thinking for herself, and that of course is intolerable on the left. on msnbc, a guy called michael eric dyson, who is a professor at georgetown university, accused winsome sears of, get this, being a black white supremacist. honestly, this is one of the most disturbing and to put it bluntly racist attacks we have

ever seen. here it is. >> they want white supremacy by ventriloquist -- there is a black mouth moving, a white idea on the tongue of a figure who justifies and legitimates the white supremacist practices. we know that we can internalize in our own minds, and our own subconscious and our own bodies the very principles that are undoing us, so to have a black face speaking on behalf of a white supremacist legacy is nothing new. >> will: horace cooper is the cochair of project 21 and joins us now. horace, great to see you tonight. i don't think it is surprising to hear such a vile and absurd rhetoric coming from the two individuals we just saw on that screen, but it is surprising msnbc and their parent company comcast seem okay with it. >> well, it is very disappointing. you know, there was a time when

table companies, tv companies, radio networks all had a code that said we are going to voluntarily comply with this idea, we won't promote racism, we won't promote bigotry. they apparently at msnbc have walked completely away from that, and if you just took the video off and just play the audio, you would assume some racist or segregationist from the 1940s was talking, in the way that they attribute to race certain ideas and certain thoughts. that is really dangerous. it's actually quite evil. >> will: oh, no doubt about it. horace come help me out. let's see if i translate correctly. if you are black, you must think one and only one way. that is what i heard, and it is not the first time i have heard

it from the likes of michael eric dyson. >> if you are black, you can't be an astronaut. if you are black, you can't be an elected official. if you are black, you need to stay in your place. that's what the segregationists have said to. now, i'm going to remind the audience that in the 19th century, one political party decided that it was going to make race the primary issue, disparaging one group and promoting another. when we had a civil war and we thought that was settled, that one political party came back again in the 20th century, and they set up jim crow, with the idea that race explains everything, and your abilities and your talents don't. we had martin luther king and the civil rights movement. millions of people like myself

grew up in this post-martin luther king period. but now, the woke racists are back in the 21st century, and once again, they posit your race determines your role, at your function, and your options. that is bigotry 101. regardless of what century it comes from. >> will: yeah, horace, everything is upside down. it seems that those who call themselves antiracist are the most racist. those who today advocate for racial empathy simultaneously advocating for it racial segregation. we don't have much time, horace, but how did we end up in this place where in order to be protected from being called a racist, the best way to behave is to actually be a racist? >> well, let's remember that in the 19th and 20th centuries, those advocates of bigotry said they weren't doing it to

disparage anyone. they were doing it because it was great for everyone. the same idea still obtains today. don't worry about what they say. look at what they are doing. what they are doing is separating people on the basis of race. >> will: horace cooper. really insightful stuff. the individual, how radical an idea, celebrate, honor, and look at the individual. thanks for joining us tonight, horace. we are going to bring you a live update on the kyle rittenhouse trial next. you may be remember, he is being charged of shooting three men during the black lives matter riots during kenosha, wisconsin, last year and it is not going well for the prosecution. you've got to hear about it. by the way, tucker has a brand-new store on tuckercarlson.com where you can get everything, from tucker hunting and fishing gear, tactical boxes, new tucker carlson shirts, and much more. check it out, tuckercarlson.com i just click on shop. we will be right back. ♪ ♪

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they are during the blm riots last year and was attacked by several men. one of them a registered sex offender named joseph rosenbaum who longed for rittenhouse's rifle. rittenhouse then shot and killed rosenbaum. than another man hit rittenhouse with a skateboard and tried to take his gun. rittenhouse shot and killed him, as well. rittenhouse also shot a third man, who was armed with a weapon, and this case has now gone to trial. the prosecution's case, by the way, is totally collapsing. yesterday, the prosecution's own witness, "daily caller" reporter, dealt a major blow to the prosecution's case. he testified that he saw a rosenbaum type try to takes me 29's rifle. >> you have no idea what mr. rosenbaum was ever thinking at any point in his life. you have never been inside his head and never met him before. >> even though i never exchanged words with him, if that is what your question is. >> so your interpretation is

complete guesswork. >> well come he said "[bleep] you and reached for the weapon." >> will: julio rojas has been in the courthouse from the start. does not look like from a distance this is going well for the prosecution and the defense has not even begun to put on their case here. >> right, exactly, and not only does it sound like the prosecution's case is not going well at all but it actually sounds like rittenhouse has two defense teams working for him because it is not just ritchie, who i know personally that has that kind of mike trout moment yesterday, but two other witnesses that the prosecution y testify to the fact that joseph rosenbaum, the first person who attacked kyle rittenhouse was being very aggressive that evening, and in fact, one of the witnesses said specifically that with rittenhouse standing next to him, rosenbaum told them that if i find you alone tonight, i will effing kill you, and so

establishes the fact that rosenbaum was being aggressive at night and i should know because i saw him being aggressive with other people at the gas station to my left ear. that is a key, important fact to have established, because of that initial attack that then led to the chain of events for the second half of the shooting, which i was present for. >> will: so julio, the rittenhouse team has asserted the affirmative defense of self-defense. they say the killings were done in the act of self-defense. that is why all the details about what rosenbaum may or may not have said and who longed for a gun are so important. and even in the third shooting, where a man had a gun. help me out, julio. in order for the prosecution to win their case, is it correct they have to disprove self-defense beyond a reasonable doubt? and they don't seem close to meeting that burden. >> no, no, they really don't, and again it is partly because of the witnesses that they

themselves have called up, but it is also because of the video evidence, and that is the thing that is important with this case. i filmed some of it. other reporters on the ground filmed, so we have a pretty good picture, despite the chaos that was happening, we have a pretty good picture of the timeline of events leading up to it and incident where the shots were actually fired, and one thing that is actually really important to keep in mind is that rittenhouse was not the only person shooting that night. there was multiple gunshots happening around that area, so when we actually look at the video evidence and eyewitness statements even before the trial, going into this, the prosecution did not have a strong case at all in terms of the murder charges. >> will: if kyle rittenhouse is found not guilty we will once again have to turn our eyes to the street of kenosha to see the response. but it looks like just as it had it in that direction. julio rojas, thanks for filling us in tonight. the left claims anyone who is why it has an inherent advantage

called white privilege, but a new survey found that more than a third of white students lie about their race on college applications. why would they do that if they had white privilege? why would they pretend to be a minority? that is next. and don't forget, right now you can unlock and stream all of tucker carlson's shows including "patriot purge" for free for 30 days, only by going to tuckercarlson.com. ♪ ♪

>> will: the race hustler ibram x. kendi, real name henry rodgers, accidentally posted a tweet a few days ago that completely undermined, well, his entire life's work. it undermines the narrative of systemic white supremacy. kendi cited a study that said 35% of students who applied to university have lied about being minorities and 77% of those students were then accepted. kendi deleted the tweet after he realized what it proved, which

is that the white privilege narrative is a live. the author of "almost black" and chronicles how he got into medical school with a subpar gpa gpa. great to have you on the show. tell me about what you did to get into medical school and what it proves. >> so, about 20 years ago, i posed as an african-american in order to gain admission to medical school because i did some research and figured out that as an asian-american, i would unlikely get in, and i succeeded in getting into medical school at st. louis university, despite the fact my 3.1 gpa was dramatically lower than their average. i got wait-listed at washington university and the university of pennsylvania school of medicine. those are the third and fourth best medical schools in the country, so i found out that race has a huge impact on university admissions and there

is a huge disadvantage to either a white person or an asian-american. >> will: you know, i liked the story you told, vijay. you talked about shaving your head, the different measures you took, going by your middle name, to impersonate a black man. you talked about this, you actually experience racism. you experienced some of the differences of walking through this country as a black man. but at the same time, you also experience the benefits of systemic racism but the benefit of systemic racism works against actually the races you'd laid out, those of asian descent or white people. >> yes, absolutely. asian-americans are the major deficiencies of racial discrimination in the form of affirmative action in university admission. that is one of the reasons why one of the great champions of opposing proposition 16, which would have allowed racial discrimination in california california state universities and employment in the state of california. >> will: so what does this

say, then come about kendi, his life's work, his tweet that he took down, what does this tell us about the idea of systemic racism? >> well, at least when it comes to college admissions, okay, there is systemic racism. there is systemic racism against white people and asian-americans, and the university admitted that. in 2016, in the fisher decision, where all of them acknowledged very publicly that they discriminate on the basis of race and endorsed racial discrimination against asian-american and white people in university admissions. >> will: vijay, i have to ask, first of all, are you a practicing doctor today? did it all work out? how did your future pan out with the submission? >> well, you know, justice scalia had the famous mismatch theory, which said that, you know, unfortunately sometimes people don't benefit from affirmative action. i ended up dropping out of

medical school, and today, i use my skills and knowledge to help people to apply for college and graduate school, though i certainly do not recommend that people lie about their race. >> will: that is fascinating. what you're pointing out, as justice scalia said, often affirmative action hurts those it is designed to help because if you can't make it on the merit, you will eventually wash out, and you are a testament to that is what you are telling me. you didn't have the merit, at least when i came to being a medical doctor. >> at least when it came to medicine. the worst kind of racism is the racism of low expectations. that is the false belief that african-americans and hispanics need special help in the form of affirmative action in admissions. unfortunately, that is a portion of dr. kendi's critical race theory, which he advocates in the maryland-based critical race theory curriculum.

>> will: i think many of us oppose racism, in essence, systemic or individual, and kendi has been exposed as a fraud by his own words. vijay, thanks so much for joining us tonight. that is about it for us tonight. all three episodes of tucker's blockbuster investigation into the real event of january 6th on fox nation, "patriot purge." and check out "the will cain" podcast. ♪ ♪ >> sean: and welcome to "hannity" come on this busy new friday, major development on multiple fronts tonight. coming up from a bay packers star quarterback aaron rodgers' blasting democrats, the nfl, anr covid-19 hypocrisy, also senator rand paul, he will join us with more on his latest confrontation with the disgraced and dishonest dr. anthony fauci, and democrats are in complete disarray on capitol hill tonight, but ultimately, really nothing in