this year, she's blaming opec, she's blaming the cartel. no. biden abandoned the energy independence we inherited but we all know why she was laughing, because the biden administration has zero plans to increase america's energy production. in fact, right now, they are looking for ways to reduce our supply even more. earlier today the administration admitted that they are exploring the effects of shutting down yet another pipeline in the middle of winter. this as energy bills are already expected to rise significantly putting a 50% spike for those that use natural gas, 59% spike, those that use heating oil andpi propane uses are in store for a 94% increase. that's joe biden putting america last and making vladimir rich again. according to granholm, america's must brace for these rising prices, this is nothing she says that they can do to stop it. take a look.at >> should americans a cold winter, expect to pay higher prices for heating our homes?

>> this is going to happen. it will be more expensive than last year >> sean: joining us now, rick perry. governor, were we importing any oil from saudi arabia in the final year of the trump administration? >> we were exporting for the first time and i think 70 years. america was independent of other countries energy, and that's what president trump asked me to do when he made the pitch to come and be in his cabinet. he said i want you to go do for america what you did for texas, and that's exactly what we did. we turns the united states intoa this incredible powerhouse energy, we were selling liquefied natural gas into europe.

we were making a difference in the world, and this administration has turned it on its head in a short ten plus months. stunning. >> sean: so governor, mr. secretary, whichever you prefer, it's up to you, if we did it once i don't think it would be hard to do it again, what it? >> no. when you saw the said administration shut down the keystone pipeline -- i mean, one of the first things they did. number one, the loss of really good union jobs went away but that heavy cruise coming down to the gulf coast, that is the type of crude that all refineries are set up to transition into gasoline. so i mean, they -- they are doing an experiment on us right now, and it is like a chemistry lab gone bad. they are literally experimenting with america's future with these crazy ideas of shutting down pipelines because they're having to address -- >> sean: they tried to deny -- >> the green new deal and the

aocs of the world. >> sean: my question to you, and you know energy as well as anybody are no, if we want to become energy independent again, how quickly would we be able to accomplish that? >> i think it's went to take us a while to get back but the main thing that's got to happen and it will be a little political here, we got to change the administration, and we got to change congress so that they can't put these crazy policies into place. the idea that they are talking about shutting down the pipeline that comes out of canada, goes across michigan, is nonsense. it's like they tried to stop the dakota access pipeline. they did stop the xl pipeline.el this mentality that you're going to limit the amount of fossil fuels in the united states ande somehow or another that's going to affect in any positive way

the climate around the world, and what drives me up the wall here, sean, is that you've got john kerry flying all around the world on his private jet lecturing other countries about the use of fossil fuels, and give god our secretary of energy begging opec to open up the spigots and give us a hand. >> sean: and they keep rejecting us, 400 some odd private planes going to the summit. governor, mr. secretary, we could use you back in that oldpe job. >> [indiscernible] by the way. >> sean: all right, good to see you, governor. when we come back, project veritas founder and ceo james o'keefe joins us for an exclusive interview following fbi raid of his home overcome a well, joe biden's daughter's diary. we will tell you all about it. ♪ ♪ or atopic dermatitis under control? hide our skin? not us. because dupixent targets a root cause of eczema,

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♪ ♪ >> sean: tonight, a major developing story after the fbi raided the home of project veritas ceo and founder james o'keefe along with other project veritas journalists as part of an investigation into a diary believed to have been written by joe biden's daughter ashley.fo according to o'keefe, within an hour of the first raid last week, "the new york times" reached out for comment. how did the times know about the search warrant so quickly? i don't know, it's just one of those many unanswered questions,

kind of sounds like that predawn raid on roger stone, fake news cnn cameras just happened to be there at 5:00 in the morning. anyway, here to explain more, first interview, the ceo and founder of project veritas, james o'keefe, along with his attorney. welcome both of you. i think it's important to establish other media -- and i'm not comparing it to other media but other media use undercover cameras and have for many years, even 60 minutes and nbc's "to catch a predator." this is not a new form of journalism.. you acknowledge that. >> well, sean, on saturday morning, i acknowledged that but i woke up to a predawn raid. banging on my door, i went to the door to answer the door and there were ten fbi agents with a battering ram become a white

blinding lights, they turned me around, handcuffed me and threw me against the hallway, partially clothed in front of my neighbors. they confiscated my home, raided my apartment, on my phone were many of my reporters notes. a lot of my sources unrelated to this story, and a lot of confidential donor information to our news organization, sean, so i've heard the phrase "the process is the punishment." i didn't really understand what that meant until this weekend, and sean, i wouldn't wish this on any journalist. >> sean: let me go into the issue, like anybody that works in any form of journalism or in the press in any capacity, whether you're a talk show host like me or doing what you do are doing what anybody else does, in the course of doing your work you have sources, correct? you have whistle-blowers, people giving her tips all the time. to what extent can you tell user

the contextxt under which you we given this diary. i assume you did not take the diary yourself. is that correct? >> that's correct. i will speak to that, sean, if i can. c an anonymous source contacted project veritas and indicated the source in its lawful possession copies of the diary that the source said belong to ashley biden. the source had a lawyer, the lawyer engaged in negotiation with in-house counsel and the resulting written agreement, like so many news organizations do, veritas -- the source again affirmed that it had lawful possession of the source material. in exchange for that, veritas agreed to pay money for the right to publish the material. as you know, sean, veritas never did, it killed the story on the news room floor but went a step further and turned the material

into local law enforcement. the actions of president biden's department of justice in this case are unprecedented because -- >> sean: let me go into this. >> supreme court precedent. >> sean: james, i've known you for a long time. you had no direct knowledge tha what this source was giving you could in any way have been stolen. you were not able to corroborate the authenticity of the diary,ha and you never ran it. at what point then did you go to law enforcement on your own unsolicited and tell them that you had this in your possession and it might be somebody else's? >> well, sean, we get -- sources come to us all the time. we have thousands of sources come to project veritas. the nature of journalism to be shown information from a variety of sources. but this is an attack on the first amendment by thefr department of justice.

we didn't publish the story. we couldn't authenticate the story, so our journalists looked into it, and we couldn't -- we did not publish the story because we could not authenticate it. >> sean: which, by the way, if you can't authenticate, you dide the right thing. at what point did you feel a need to bring this to law enforcement? at what point in the process did that happen? >> after the decision was made to kill the story and not run it.en i forgot to add one thing if i could, sean. t you use the s word. it's really important to understand not to buy the premise that the diary is stolen. nobody could have known if that's the case. >> sean: that was my next question. i have been reading all over the internet, everywhere in between, that she claims it was stolen, but other people claimant might have been left in a former place of residence of hers.

do we have an answer to that question? >> we do, but you know, i think people might look to me and say that i'm crazy for talking about the facts at the level i have already and so i'm going to respectfully say that's going to come out, it's going to be offering favorable to james andd awfully favorable to his news organization. >> sean: think it's awfully interesting that james is the one that brought it to law enforcement's attention. let me ask this question. crime that alleged they have here? >> i don't know. this would -- >> sean: they didn't tell you? >> this was turned in a yearon ago. well, the search warrant has missed prison of a felony, accessory after the fact and transporting material across state lines as the basis for rating the home of a journalist and seizing his workpapers and journalist notes. >> sean: i would assume both of your pretty familiar with daniel ellsberg and the pentagon papers case in "the new york times" attaining stolen, top-secret documents a

that they were publishing, they actually set a precedent in the u.s. supreme court 6-3 decision that said they have the right tt publish it even though that was stolen material. do you see similarities? >> the right to publish -- it'se entirely similar. there is no exception to mr. o'keefe and project veritas. the right to take the material,h knowing it was stolen, the righr seek comment, the right to investigate and ultimately the right to publish.. this is outrageous and unprecedented and journalist everywhere on either side -- >> sean: why a year ago, if i'm understanding correctly, why did this come up now? james? >> james, go ahead, i'm sorry, sean. >> i don't know the answer to that, sean, but this is -- they've crossed the bridge here of -- they can do this to me. these are about certain

principles that are so fundamental, our first amendment in this country, i'm calling upon all journalists to take a stand against this, a source comes to us with information, im don't even decide to publish it. if they can do this to me, if they can do this to this journalist and rate my home and take my reporter notes, they'll do it to any journalist. this is about something very fundamental in this country. i don't know what direction this country is going in, but journalist everywhere have to rise up, because we broke no laws here. they can do it to me, they'll do it to anybody. >> sean: so when they came to your house in this predawn raid and through handcuffs on you and pulled you out of your house and ten agents coincide, we just -- i assume they took items out ofe your house and office as i understand it? at that point did they just take the handcuffs off and say see you later?

>> they spent over two hours in my apartment, and they confiscated two of my iphones, and again, these phones contained a lot of source information and reporter notes on them. these are serious first amendment issues and donor information to our news foundation, so yeah, it's troubling. and i asked to speak with my attorney a few times, they allowed me to do that, but i was kind of in a state of shock, frankly. i can't believe this is happening. >> sean: let me go -- i'm trying to understand this. so a year prior, you go to law enforcement on your own that you have a source, gives you s information, you don't know where it came from, you try to corroborate it, you're unable to do so, issues arise as to where this might've come from. you on your own a year prior go to law a enforcement. did you hand over to them at the time this diary? and did you have any indication of where the diary came from?

james? >> it came from the source,to sean, as i said. >> the source gave us the information and we didn't -- we didn't know if it was stolen or not, we don't know that. but journalist throughout the 20th century have been -- journalists throughout the 20th century have been giventu information, you know, "the washington post" and "the new york times" are given information inside all manner of institutions and they are protected by the supreme court of the united states to publish that information that a source gives to them. so there's no distinction between -- >> sean: did they ask you for the name of the source? are you going to protect that source? >> well, insofar that they have my reporter's notes on the phone they confiscated from the predawn raid, they have access to the contents of my iphone, which is deeply troubling and should outrage the aclu and any other journalist in the

united states. they have access -- >> sean: doubled her breath, they don't care. >> all the contents forr my phone. >> a letter -- go ahead. >> i sent him a letter. i sent him a letter, i let him know that i represent james, and in the normal course, the material on the phone that they are entitled to have would have been produced promptly. if the other material on there that is deeply troubling. this is a first amendment, it's an assault -- go ahead, i'm sorry. >> sean: on a scale of 1 to 10 how damaging, if this turned out to be true -- you haven't been able to authenticated -- if it turned out to be true, how damaging would this be to the president and his family?? james? >> look, you know the answer to that? >> i think i could -- again, i couldn't authenticate the source material.

i had a newsroom at the time, we were looking through it for a little while. we couldn't authenticate it, so i decided not to run it and i'm trying to figure out what more we could have done as journalists. what more could i have done but not run the story and handed it over to law enforcement? i don't know what more we could have done, and so we decided not to publish the story. so what on earth -- what --ry what -- what action could we have taken as reporters beyond the action that we've taken? >> sean: you're raising a great question. and why did it take a year to all right, we are going to continue to follow the story. james o'keefe, thank you. paul, thank you for being with us. i want to get more legal analysis of this is we bring in fox news legal analystoik gregg jarrett. it seems -- i will let you be the professional here. the pentagon papers, i look at that 6-3 landmark supreme court decision, talk about stolen materials published byx "the new york times," they won that case when they joined "the washington post." what is your take on this case?

>> more recently when donald trump's tax returns were stolen, did the doj go and the fbi go barging through the doors of journalists at "the new york times"? of course they didn't. what the southern district of new york, the department of justice has done to james o'keefe and his fellowey journalists is outrageous and its lawlessness. and i laughed a moment ago and they said in the search warrants the crime was identified as this prison a felony, which is a dusty old law that is a joke that is not enforced anymore. it says you have a duty to notify law enforcement. today that only applies to public officials. first of all, this isn't a federal case. this is a state case. i've diary, for god sakes. why are the feds in this? yes, there are nine federal

statutes on theft, they all deal with theft of government property. this isn't government property. second of all, merrick garland's dirty finger prints are all over this because under doj rules, he has to sign off on a warrant or a subpoena for a news organization. third, this is his order four months ago. merrick garland, there's his signature. prohibiting warrants and subpoenas on news organizations and journalists relating to leaked cases, and the standards he sets forth here, protection of first amendment rights, apply to this case, which he is ignoring and finally ignored the federal regulations that require him and the doj to recuse themselves because of a conflict of interest. the president presides over the

doj. the feds are not allowed to investigate a case involving an immediate family member. this is the weaponization and the politicization of the doj and it's shameful. >> sean: apparently the source to james o'keefe said that this diary was found abandoned. the narrative of i guess the president's daughter is that this was stolen. that has yet to be determined. but that's what james o'keefe was told. does the fact that he didn't run the story because he couldn't corroborate it, and he on his own a year ago went to law enforcement -- the question i have is why now? why at this point, what did he do wrong here, what possible crime are we looking at? >> he did nothing wrong and there's no crime that he committed. as i say, misprision of felony is an absolute joke and it underscores in my mind that the prosecutors in the southern districts are other idiots or if they think that that applies m

under the circumstances. he didn't print it, he handed it off to law enforcement --ar >> sean: this is the fbi with the predawn raid on his house. >> look, it's disappointing that christopher wray would allow the fbi to be misused and abused by merrick garland and joe biden's white house in what is clearly a political vendetta. if you have information derogatory about joe biden, merrick garland will come after you with a vengeance., the law and the constitution and the first amendment be damned. >> sean: we know it's politicized because merrick garland went george's voting law, which is very accessible, ignored delaware's law. they don't have 17 days in person early voting in delaware.

they do in georgia. they don't have drop boxes anywhere in delaware, they have them at every precinct in georgia and both states have photo i.d. requirements, so why go after georgia?ar i why go after texas if you're not politicizing, why not go after joe biden's restricted voting state of delaware? that proves a lot. >> it's corrupt. >> sean: gregg jarrett, we are going to follow the story right to the end. coming up, despite widespread losses in last week's election, some on the left, they are doubling down on their woke agenda. kayleigh mcenany, clint travis, they weigh in on that and more as we continue. ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ >> sean: despite last week's massive election losses, far left democrats, they are digging in. for example, real speaker of the house, congress woman alexandria ocasio-cortez, she's now lashing out over the use ofl the term "woke" tweeting in part, "woke is a term the pundits are now using as a derogatory euphemism for civil rights injustice, making up a woke problem results in putting tscivil and voting rights on the back burner." here with reaction, author of the best seller, "for such a time as this," outnumbered coast kayleigh mcenany along with

cohost for the clay travis and buck sexton show, clay travis, who still hasn't given me my let's go brandon shirt, but who's counting? >> it's on the way! >> sean: i did get a book fromla kayleigh mcenany, i didn't get a shirt from you, but that's just saying. let me just start with this whole thing about woke. we all know what woke means. it means she was clearly responding -- clay, we will start with you. clearly responding to james carville saying all of thisle nonsense, all of this hard-core left-wing socialism an end wokeism, is killing the party. i know james carville. i've debated james cargill. i actually like him, he's a fun guy to hang out with. he's crazy but he's a fun guy to hang out with but he's right, this party has gone off the deep end and this seems no hope to bringing them back to thea center. >> he's 100% right, sean, and he's also a great guy, big lsu fan, i'm sure he took thatng alabama loss hard but look,

aoc -- >> sean: told you don't [indiscernible]. >> is the best advertisement for the democratic party out there and what james carville is saying is if you want to respond and reach out to reasonable people in the middle part of this country, you don't brand everything is racist. that's the entire democratic party in three words right now, sean, and also kayleigh, everything is racist, it represent the culmination of identity politics mixed with cancel culture and aoc hasty written that to a very prominent position, which is good for her and disastrous for the democratic party and what they try to do, sean, is brand anything that's successful as unacceptable and that's what she's trying to do when she points out that the woke universe is blowing up, it's turning into its own revolution, they are eating themselves, and republicans are going to be the biggest beneficiaries. >> sean: i don't see any chance of any course reversal. they are stuck in energy dependence, stuck with chaos at the border, chaos in>> afghanistan, out-of-control inflation, and they are killing

the poor and middle-class in this country, kayleigh. >> that's right. joe biden, the great moderate, turned out to not be so moderate, right? he's doubling down on this fdr-like notion that he has a governing majority, fdr controlled at one .80% of congress.io joe biden has nothing of the sort, he has the slimmest majority of any sitting democrat president in modern history but he's doubling down on the notion that he's fdr when in fact is not. aoc, i love that she is the standard-bearer of the party, is hope she continues to be.he she didn't pay attention in virginia, our fox news analysis says the number three issue, almost tied with covid, was education, and that 72% of voters in part based their vote on critical race theory. she can call it woke. a normal person like myself who has a child, a daughter, calls it wanting control of your child because the parents deserve that, not the government, and certainly not terry mcauliffe.

>> sean: i really want to thank you for the book that you sent me, that was so nice of you, i guess i will just have to bind my own "let's go brandon" w t-shirt. not getting it from travis. >> the patriot awards next week, i will see you in person, i will deliver it on the show. >> sean: i'm waiting. thanks, guys, more "hannity" next. ♪ ♪ do you struggle to fall asleep and stay asleep? qunol sleep formula combines 5 key nutrients

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♪ ♪ >> sean: unfortunately that's all the time we have left for tonight. as always, thanks so much for being with us, please set your dvr so you never miss an episode and remember, we will never be the media mob, ever. in the meantime, let not your hearts be troubled, laura ingraham is standing by. hi. >> laura: how are you? they do have a restful weekend?

>> sean: i did. i'm still battling allergies and injuries and everything in between but it was good. >> laura: you haven't lost your voice or, you know, do you need to -- >> sean: stuck in my voice and won't completely go away but i'm certainly not like raymond arroyo. >> laura: you know, god will get you for that one, hannity, okay? >> sean: i love ray! >> laura: payback is a