>> ♪ ♪ >> the vice-president's office is rocked by another high level staff shake-up. this time it's one of her most trusted advisors. a woman who helped spearhead the harris approach to the border crisis. her departure comes amid growing questions about the vice-president's future with speculation her chances of becoming president are dwindling. this is "outnumbered." i am kayleigh mcenany joined by harris faulkner and emily compagno and jillian turner and

a fox news analyst lawrence jones. vice-president kamala harris appearing right now with transportation second pete buttigieg amid speculation he is eyed as her replacement. high level departures in her office are intensifying. symone sanders is leaving after less than a year on the job. this as the vice-president's communication team is out and the discipline director of the office of public engagement both on their way out. this comes on the heels of the vice-president's communications chief leaving last month. and the white house press secretary jen psaki was asked about it. >> a handful of key aides are leaving the vice-president's office or will leave soon. is the vice-president not satisfied with the staffing she

had or do people just not want to work for her anymore? >> peter, working on a presidential campaign and covering one too and working in the first year of the white house is exciting and rewarding but also gruelling and exhausting at once. >> jen psaki is right about that. but there are other factors here. some context that is missing. vice-president harris one of the least popular vice-president harris in history. article after article about the discord in the office. for instance, a few weeks ago 3 dozen sources told cnn, when they are annoyed some pass around a recent story mocking harris's lack of substantive work. one said white house urge kamala harris to sit at a computer all day in case emails come from.

there is a rumor biden might replace her by nominating her to a supreme court vacancy. this is not surprising. the history of discord. >> that's right. it's plagued her in california and the campaign. staff infighting and a rocky relationship between her and other parts of the white house. she argued i am not well prepared for these positions. but the 30 staffers who had conversations with cnn they say they feel abandoned by her and there is no clear message we can get behind. during the campaign, her family members weighed in and took precedence over us. they also have formal positions and there are allegeses of mismanagement. where did the $35 million go?

it's a hot bed of drama and infighting with everyone pointing fingers at each other while the money drained away. no matter what they hide behind, the bottom line is people are leaving her team. there is a history of in fighting and a civil war with people choosing teams. it led to her dropping out of the campaign for presidency and now perhaps leaving the ship in the white house. >> harris, we talked about how important it is for the vice-president of the united states, kamala harris is the first vice-president in decades to have a shorter resume than the president. maybe she is not prepared. >> let's start with prepation. we have all does things for the first time. try parenting. you understand the assignment,

right? as an aging attorney general of a large state -- california -- yes, she had a team around her. wasn't it her responsibility to prepare for a big case to make on behalf of the people? isn't it her responsibility to prepare for a visit south of the border? or one of the many other jobs. they will scroll them. what this is about, it's not just the number of people leaving on her staff but the caliber of people. symone sanders is a big name inside politics. she worked for bernie sanders who was not a small voice. didn't dodge questions or do the biden walk away or the kamala harris giggle fest. she steps in during the campaign. she works through the first 11 months of the presidency. then reaches a point where we have seen fake events with hired

children. we have seen crisis after crisis get nothing but a giggle. all of this, it isn't just a number. it's the caliber. how many go around does she have for our team? we have talked about this for months. people coming and going. it's a problem when the people who are supposed to be front and center your face of your office are leaving. it's not staff behind-the-scenes. symone sanders was a big name no matter who she worked for. >> and symone sanders i sparred with her on the set. very talented spokesperson. it's my view the white house did not have her out there enough. she should have been a visible face of the biden administration. she is very talented. i am fascinated what took place on air force 2. roll the tape.

>> it's 2021. the whole point of campaigns and election size when they go well, you get to governor. -- govern. we are focussed on the job at hands. i am excited to be part of the team led by the president and vice-president. the team work that got us here is the beginning. as a transportation secretary i get it see the faces of the investments we are doing. we would not be here without the leadership of the vice-president and president. >> this is air force 2. on vice-president's kamala harris's plane. she is standing there with pete buttigieg by her side. people are saying he should be the next president. his answer was not what it should have been. it should have been i work for president biden. that was not the answer. if any other cabinet member answered that way about mike

pence, you would have had an unhappy president trump who wants his cabinet to say we support the president because he is running. >> that goes back to leadership. there is a bigger story than just the vice-president's office. the white house is in disarray. two factions of the democratic party that are at war with each other inside the white house. symone sanders wasn't a kamala harris pick. the president of the united states joe biden instructed her to go to the wing of the vice-president to work in that department. she was the rock of the campaign during the joe biden term. she worked for bernie sanders. she was instrumental in securing the black vote when folks were iffy about joe biden considering the crime bill. the president of the united states, this is his fault. he selected kamala harris.

he knew it was going to be a disaster to begin with because the democratic voters rejected her on the campaign. all of the issues we are highlighting right now were there before he decided to select her. yet he selected her. there is something deeper here. it's crisis after crisis and having the fall person. symone sanders could be upset right now because she should be at the podium at the white house. jen psaki was not a biden person in the middle of the campaign during the primary. >> that's true. >> she flipped the script. temporary -- there are a lot of people upset about this. biden supporters who went through the struggle of his poll numbers going up and down. and he brought the obama folks back because they needed someone to steer the ship. that goes back to leadership. this is why the white house is in disarray.

>> i want to piggyback off something lawrence said. symone sanders has never made a secret of her ambitions for her job at the white house. she wrote in her memoir last year, she wanted to be the white house press secretary. and tellers said she told him she was hurt and stunned when jen psaki got it. personal ambition is a factor. sometimes they are just normal people and their personal ambitions are frustrated. we should not under cut jen psaki when she said some folks are burned out. kayleigh mcenany you spoke about it. i was there for 4 years. it's lying dog years. you are there for 1 year and it feels like 7. symone sanders 2 years and then

1 year, that's a lot of work. it's easy to write that off, but it's true. >> that's a great point. >> did you hear what jen psaki said? we carried the white house press briefing live last hour. the glowing words about symone sanders. that was telling. considering the fact she wanted that woman's job and everybody knows it. >> well, everyone around washington knows it, she was promised a job on the campaign trail. there is a lot of in fighting to begin with. >> that would be upsetting. symone sanders was passed over and kamala harris passed over for pete buttigieg. rumors that the west wing his name is in a whisper campaign. coming up in a rare move the lead prosecutor overseeing the investigation into tuesday's michigan high school shooting might seek charges against the suspect's parents. more on that next.

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>> ♪ ♪ >> the parents of the 15-year-old boy accused of killing 4 students in a michigan high school could be held responsible for their son's crime. ethan crumbley pleaded not guilty to murder and terrorism. prosecutors charged him as an adult. the victims age range from 14 to 17 years old. three other students were still in the hospital last night including a 17-year-old girl in critical condition. in a rare move the lead prosecutor suggested that the suspect's parents could face charges. the sheriff said the gun used in the shooting belonged to the

suspect's father. the prosecutor would not provide details which asked if the gun was locked in the family's home. but she said gun owners have a responsibility to keep their weapons out of the hands of minors. it's not clear what statute or charge she might bring for the parents. in michigan there is not a law that requires parents to keep guns locked up and away from children. your thoughts? >> as a gun owner, we always stress safety, safety, safety and secure your weapon. that's universal. when we talk about not getting trigger happen and making sure you properly place your finger not on the trigger, it's about safety because accidents happen. the parents had a responsibility to do that. harris spent a lot of time as a local anchor.

whenever these tragedies have happen, i go to the local affiliate. they have the facts. abc 7 interviewed this kid who said i have seen him around school. the kid had been picked on and stuff like that. people were bullying him. you are going to get this type of reaction. i disagree that is when you get when people are bullied they kill people. he decided not to go to school and he told his mom he knew this might happen and felt it in his gut. what did the people know when he was at the school. he was posting on instagram flexing his weapon. he was called to the school with his parents back-to-back days. why didn't they stop this from happening?

>> that's a great question. i have to say that police have responded to the allegations of bullying and said there were zero reports of bullying. the prosecutor addressed the meeting with the parents and said it's under investigation. the sheriff reported that there was a journal found in crumbley's backpack with the details of the attack and two social media videos and photos of him with the gun. the sheriff said there is no way this was not premeditateed. >> it was certainly. he made videos detailing his plans to commit this atrocity. this is a trend we see in this country. there was a study that came out on november 4th. they looked at 170 mass shooting events and 44.3% the shooter articulates his plan in advance. this was no exception. up to 60% of the individuals

have, cute paranoi and depression beforehand. just because you have a mental illness doesn't mean someone will commit this atrocity but there is certainly a connection. there are many red flag. how do we act upon them in advance? >> the reason why terrorism is a charge in michigan. there doesn't need to be a political intention for that charge to hold true. the prosecutor preferenced the trauma the victims endured and their families. >> and ethan crumbley did terrorize his community. we can argue about whether he did so legally or not. maybe in the state of michigan he can be held to account there. that's great.

emily, you mentioned that in his state there is not a legal requirement for the parents to keep their firearms from children which sounds insane. if that's the case, they have a moral and ethical obligation to the rest of human society to keep their children away from their firearms especially if they have known behavior problems as ethan crumbley did. the day before he was called into school for a special meeting to talk about his behavior that other students flagged. 3 hours before he committed from atrocity the parents were meeting with his teachers. it wasn't just other students that knew something was going on. his parents new and the entire school probably new. there is a lot of culpability. law enforcement may host the parent's feed to the fires because of the insurgents point where he said the gun was here.

>> the negligence standard is knew or should have known. there could be a landmark case by prosecuting them. >> something that lawrence talked about, the back stories you get from the local news. they can talk to the kids and families and get on the ground. some reporters have children in that school i am certain of it. i want to know the role of the parents in all of this. do we really want to go so far not to old the 15-year-old not accountable for his own actions. do you want to separate these cases out? if he is old enough to be charged as an adult at 15, then i think there has to be accountability that starts and ends there.

right? i think that's really important. not to go too far afield. we will get the back stories from the local news. i want to know about that young man and his culpability. he killed people allegedly. >> i love that point. we will be held criminally liable and they likely will be too and they will be on the hook civilly. coming up worried about the supply chain crisis and christmas gifts. president biden said only santa claus can tel you if you will get your gifts on time.

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this for deflection? president biden said only santa claus can promise to get your christmas presents on time insisting that despite what you are seeing. store shelves will be well shocked for the holiday shopping season. still supply chain issues lead families to worry they won't be able to deliver on the gifts their kids so desire. the president is not taking responsibility for any of it. here he is. >> now i can't promise that every person will get every gift they want on time. only santa claus can keep that promise. there are items every year that sellout and are hard to find. some of you moms and dads remember the cabbage patch kids in the '80s or other toys that ran out at christmas time when

there was no supply chain problem. >> he realize those other toys that was because of demand for those toys. we saw that for baby yoda. lawrence the only good news is maybe the president still believes in santa claus. >> [laughing]. i think i will just go i don't think he knows how to lead on this issue. he doesn't have any business experience. this guy was elected at age 29 and been in government ever since. he doesn't know how to do business. we made fun of the former president for hosting round tables and different business leaders talking about how to problem solve but it worked because he knew how to run a business. i just did a story in florida how ron desantis opened up the ports in florida to receive ships. in california it takes about 47 days to unload those ships. the time in florida is zero

because they work 24 hours a day and bring all parties together. the president of the united states could have gotten a deal like this but doesn't know how to. that's why we are in this pickle right now. >> we are getting mixed messages about the crisis, harris. the president said yesterday the supply chain issue is on the wane and this is the message he heard from the group of ceo's on monday. that same day his own ftc watch dog said the opposite. they launched a massive probe into the supply chain crisis and targeted 9 of the u.s.'s biggest retailers like amazon and wall street and kroger and a bunch. we have the president saying there is no problem and his administration saying there is a big problem and we are gearing up to blame corporate america.

>> it anybody call the transportation secretary pete buttigieg to clue him in? this is how do you it? that's rhetorical. >> i think the transportation secretary is too busy mounting his future presidential bid. i heard this sound bite from the president of the united states yesterday. santa claus, beanie babies and gabbage patch kids and i expected him to say furbis. this is our president of the united states striking fear in the hearts of people. he was only out done by cnn wrote a headline why inflation could be good for every day americans. wow, cnn you out did president biden. >> emily, what lawrence talked

about. this supply chain issue and how it's met with ideas don't match. lawrence, this looks like a trend. he comes up with an idea. it doesn't match the crisis but they go with it anyway. >> of course. his standard pattern is to deny the and blame someone else for. he blamed republicans for resisting his 1.75-trillion dollars spending bill which is to blame for this. when you track your package it goes to some ship with another 50 ships stuck there. >> and the circle thing on the computer. we don't know what to tell you. >> bringing up cabbage patch kids. he is rooted in the past. out of touch with reality. he has no idea of the issues

that matter to the americans. we care about the supply chain crisis. not because we want to get a pel oton as jen psaki suggested. we equates it with the craze of tickle me elmo. that's not what this is. if you can't do it, surround yourself with people that do. >> what if i want my peloton. >> i am ready for president biden to say i am santa. we will move on. coming up. first interview since the fatal motive set shooting a tearful

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out in his first interview since the october motive set shooting that killed people. baldwin was holding the gun when it discharged. but he insists the shooting was not his fault. watch. >> shooting someone who was beloved by everyone who work with and admired. it was not in the script for the trigger to be bulled. i never pulled the trigger. >> you never pulled the trigger? >> no. >> how did a real bullet get in there? >> someone put a live bullet in the gun. >> is this the worst thing that

ever happened to you? >> yes. >> baldwin's claim he didn't pull the trigger even by the sheriff who claims guns don't just go off. we spoked to an expert who said that. guns retire a trigger to be pulled. barring a major failure they don't go off my themselves. >> right. i don't know how many 45 resolvers in circulation then there should be a recall of these guns. why wasn't the safety on? question number 1. why did you point it at somebody. he said he didn't but bullets go straight out of the barrel. he ignored all muzzle and trigger discipline. it doesn't add up. >> he doesn't know that. he outscored the safety of the employees to the set to one person to hand him a gun.

we all know safety begins with the gun holder. the person has to have the basic knowledge of making sure the bullet is not chambered. we have to make sure we are safe and the people around us. that 45 was a vintage gun that was being used on the movie set "rust," but all of that brings into play the knowledge about that film. the fact he was going to be holding weapons throughout the movie. don't you want to look legit on camera? i realize he is an actor but surviving the scene is the best acting you can do. you have to understand a weapon somebody puts in your hands. >> you're absolutely right. jillian, you can't just claim ignorance. and alec baldwin had two hats.

he was the executive producer as well as an actor. we talked about many examples before on this couch of directors and producers being held criminally liable for accidents on sets. despite safety protocols and people ignoring them. people got injured or here kill. >> a great point from harris and from you, emily. everybody has to be responsible for whatever portion of the job is theirs. in this case he was going to be handling a firearm. he should have made it incumbent to know what he was doing and make sure he knew safety best practices. i will say interestingly just a little while ago the "new york post" as incredible as this story from alec baldwin sounds? >> he has support from one key witness. the assistant direct on the set. the "new york post" is reporting that he told his attorney from

day 1 that he never saw alec baldwin's finger in the trigger holder. i don't know enough about guns to remember that part of the gun. he said that from day 1 which raises questions with how this gun operated. a vintage gun. >> or a model of the vintage gun. it's not just him saying he never pulled the trigger, it's also the assistant director. >> there are a lot accusations that alec baldwin crying crocodile tears this and is an acting job. one said alec baldwin did one hell of an acting job with george stephanopoulos.

and alec baldwin's interview with stephanopoulos might have been his best piece of acting. >> i don't know what is in the man's heart. i know guns. my follow-up yes, if you did not pull the trigger, then who did? whose finger was in the trigger? you were recording. this should be easy to verify. >> that's a good point. >> it's been over a month and someone died. who brought the live ammoon set? there are a lot of questions to be answered. i never pulled the trigger is not good enough. whose finger was in there. >> why did george stephanopoulos think the operative was this the first thing -- worst thing that

ever happened to you. >> and the sheriff's office is still investigating the matter. video evidence whether it captured the actual shooting we are not sure of. we can agree in the court of public opinion, alec baldwin is losing his argument. >> and quickly, it's important to note the sheriff has been clear and told fox news this: i would not use the word accidental. the sheriff said that. >> we need to wait for that case to happen butly did say that. >> coming up the new twitter ban that could censor conservative views from ordinary americans. frequent heartburn? not anymore. the prilosec otc two-week challenge is helping people love what they love again. just one pill a day. 24 hours. zero heartburn. because life starts when heartburn stops. take the challenge at prilosecotc dot com.

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>> in moments president biden will visit the national institute of health to deliver remarks on his plans to fight covid in the winter months as he sinks in the poll. a senator using covid as a reason to build back better. and congressman jim jordan is here imposing new restrictions

on american people in the wake of the first case of omicron in the u.s. join me and john the top of the hour. >> one day after twitter's new ceo took the helm the social media company announced a new policy banning the sharing of images or videos of people without their consent. the company said this policy update will curve the misuse of media to reveal the identities of their users. top lawmakers are questioning if this new policy will be even handed or if one side will be targeted more than the other. here is a republican senator. >> i promise you what it won't mean. normal americans who want to express their conservative

views, their privacy won't be respected. they will get censored and tracked around. >> i could not agree more. lawrence? >> i don't understand the purpose of this. it's clear the policy they implemented lately have not worked. they have been rejected by different segments of the population. instead of improving they keep getting worse. this is why jack is gone. they told us he was only there part-time anyway because twitter is not that profitable for him. i think this will crash their business model more. when i am sharing information from sources, sometimes i don't have the approval for the photos from the person in that photo. so i can't post my story anymore? i think that's silly. >> it is.

jillian, marianne williamson said if this was in place george floyd's murder would not be out there today. >> i heard the senator's comments. i thought some senate republican leaders will be up in arms about this. he is being like the boy who cried wolf. i read through the statement that twitter sent us. it says when they make the decision to pull a photo or video down they will consider if the image and the tweet text adds valuable to the public discourse or is relevant to the community. those questions are rife to be taken advantage of and using against conservatives. >> it's another instance here of twitter granting itself more editorial power and remaking its

app in god's image to be more powerful. >> twitter will decide what should be in the public discourse. >> that's what they are already doing. jillian is right. this feeds into the notion they are creating what is public discourse. it's a fantasy that people think they have equal access to or that it is authentic what we are seeing on twitter. these guys are curating what we see and they will make the determination in addition to the things that she just listed and whether it's covered by mainstream media. you can see what that means. if we are covering something and no one else is because we are the lone voice of reason on some things. they will say it's just fox. we won't cover it. this is a complete manufacturing of reality. >> hunter biden is one example of that. my problem is they are more

concerned about what is appropriate to the community. which community? >> right! >> what community? the community of tall people? i am in. who is making sure it's true? i didn't hear that as a one standard. it's true. is it true or not? they won't fact check but will check whether it's relevant to you or a group of people they choose. are they only choosing their friends who think like them? >> it is no accountability because of section 230. more "outnumbered" in a moment.

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>> oh my goodness what are your warning signs of a dishonest person? >> i'm guilty of number seven. my husband will tell me all the time that i'm terrible at apologizing. i don't stand on ceremony and avoid apologizing, i always apologize if i feel it's necessary. but sometimes i make it worse and he tells me i'm bad at it. >> that was honest.

it's because you've nothing to for. i'm telling you now. i speak i take it back. >> i hate this list. i think there's a better book for this. the one that i would love to debate, like i did right now. >> was there a confession and their? i didn't catch it. >> i told you guys before that i literally had in one of my reviews is a federal attorney that the director said your facial expressions, you can hide nothing. i'm so honest. i can never lie because my face as it all. i'm the most transparent person ever. you've a feeling if you're interacting with someone, i can tell. that person list them all out. we know our spidey sense. that person is not telling the truth. >> body language.

it reminds me of the current president and the white house. i'm just saying... >> shots fired! >> got spicy. my mother told me don't light, harry's kimberly. you're so lousy out it. you're either so bad, i don't know which one of us should be afraid. "america reports" now. >> john: thank you so much. a fox news alert to kick off. president biden set to visit the national institutes of health just minutes from now where he will detail his plan to fight covid and the new account variant ahead of the winter season. this is the nation's second case of the omicron variant identified in minnesota. great to be with you on this friday eve. >> to i love the look at it like that. i'm sandra smith. the white house urging americans not to