building at the border. we'll look at it tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. eastern time. what it could mean. far more coming up testing positive for clover there than anything they are doing to control it at the nation's airports. tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. see you then. here is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> hello, i'm jesse watters with dagen mcdowell, jessica tarlov, dana perino and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." it is a coast-to-coast crime wave brought to you by democrat weak and completely responsible crime policies. smash and grab game striking again in california knocking off a jewelry store. as for the thieves who've been busted for storming other places, well, the l.a.p.d.

announcing 14 suspects have been set free. the police chief blasting no avail policies. >> all of the suspects taken into custody are out of custody. one juvenile. bailing out, or no bail, zero bill criteria. the risk of covid to those that are in custody and forced zero bail system but as we evolve through it, there's criminal elements that are recognizing that condition and are capitalizing on it. >> jesse: in new york city a suspected gang member with a long rap sheet going on a stabbing spray. knifing a columbia student who bled to death and then wounding a tourist. the bank of america telling its employees to dress down to avoid getting targeted on the street. the city is rocked by a crime wave. what does the white house plan to do about all of this?

jen psaki trying to clean up her boneheaded comments yesterday, blaming the crime on covid. >> a root causing a lot of communities is the pandemic. what i should have added yesterday but learned afterwards is that the justice department justice department, fbi and federal law enforcement have been in contact with jurisdictions we've seen this high level of retail theft. on top of that the department of justice announced that san francisco where a number of high-profile retail thefts have happened, will get money to pay 50 more police officers. >> jesse: is that going to cut it? >> dana: adding 50 police officers. that might be a great for a day but if the career criminals get back on the street the day after their arrested and i let go that it doesn't make much sense. the white house i think would be in a position to be able to say what's happening at the local level is wrong but they won't because all of it goes back to all the big -- from the

beginning. michael bloomberg was part of this trying to get more progressive district attorneys in the country. it has happened and apparently it's work. i think the white house ought to ban the phrase "root causes." they have so many root causes issues that they are not addressing. they have jobs numbers today and it's most like the career criminals, their jobs are secure. we are not ever going to get put in jail and made to stay there. if i was at the white house, i would definitely say we should change this up immediately on the merits of necessary because of what happened and because jessica made some great points this week. you can't tell people what they are seeing with their own eyes isn't happening. that is the surest way to make sure that you're going to fail in elections and then you can't get any of your policies done. >> jesse: do you have more great points? >> jessica: i think so. you may not think so but i think dana will. there's three key players.

police chiefs, d.a., mayors. your hearing more out of the police chiefs and the mayors about this problem. eric adams went to the buying white house the remitting that was all police chiefs and mayors. he is taking a tough on crime stand. that was part of his platform. if we get them in sync and that means those two groups, police chiefs and mayors going to d.a. sensing and practices is not working. i understand where all progressives here. most of the mirrors are also progressive, like the d.a.'s his was happening on the streets. if we don't get all of the same page, funding is going to be cut and cut and we are going continue to lose tax dollars because people are going to move out of cities. bringing back together which is something bloomberg worked on really hard when he created this mayoral task force, a nationwide project, and was quite effective in something that i think is going to underpin a change. the white house will be able to speak more cogently about what they are doing to try to help.

>> jesse: don't you have to kick down doors at the city council level? it was the radical city council members that put in place. he thought i was thinking that when jessica was saying that. it's a statewide level. in new york the bail reform was at the state level and also something here in new york, discovery reform which led to fewer witnesses going forward because the defense teams were basically given the personal information witnesses. so it discouraged witnesses from coming forward. the city council here in new york city also passed a few years ago, three years ago, the right to know act which forces the cops to inform suspects that oh, you can tell us not to search you. it puts the cops and the rule of being legal counsel to criminals.

there are myriad problems. it will take years to be undone. if they can be undone at all. i'll tell you one thing that will help, if bank of america, telling their ploys trick employees maybe don't wear your wedding ring or engagement ring to work. telling their employees "you're in danger if you come to work here." >> dana: why not just work from home? >> dagen: why not move your jobs to somewhere more hospitable. you start moving your tax base out of new york city, you know who's going to take notice? the city council and the state government. they are already in charlotte. move them on out. no one wants to live there anyway. >> jesse: doesn't have to worry about looking too nice when he leaves the building. >> greg: what is that supposed to mean? what's wrong? >> jesse: you don't look like you are flossed out. you've got a black sweater. >> greg: where is this going?

does anybody no? >> jesse: no one knows. >> greg: the root cause of crime is progressivism. it's the misunderstanding of incentive. they are incentivizing crime with no bail in these measures. that's why you have criminals. we are allowing media, the white house to redefine crime is like a weather pattern. you go out there, be sure to bundle up. dress like a hobo. there's a 70% chance of smash and grab. 30% chance of felonious assault. it's up to you and it's out of your hands. i feel so hopeless about this because it's been going on for quite a while. i am thinking about joining the dark side. why bother being a law-abiding citizen and paying taxes and go shopping when you can just smash and grab? why am i going to amazon online when i live around the corner from the store? i could smash them windows. if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

there should be an app for solitary people like me who can meet up with other solitary looters. that's my problem. i don't have a lot of friends. i don't have a mob that could come with me while i attract other people's private property. maybe we could do an app for that. the bottom line is we have redefined law and order is systemically racist so anytime you enforce the law, you're going to be called a racist. which is the most effective method for undermining society. we are watching society implode. i feel absolutely hopeless. that columbia kid was murdered, murdered by a guy that's been in and out of jail. maybe his parents have some influence. maybe with the home invasion in beverly hills, will that wake up people? have a music legend murdered while her husband was sleeping. her husband was sleeping. she was murdered. doesn't this week pelosi up? don't some of these people travel in the same circles? >> jesse: it shouldn't have to happen that way. that's the point. >> greg: not until hell comes

to their house will they wake up. >> jesse: it come pretty close. straight ahead, democrats getting roasted for a ridiculous attempt to brag about the biden economy.

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♪ ♪ >> dagen: democrats getting ridiculed for their pathetic attempt at trying to give president biden a pat on the back despite soaring gas prices. the democratic congressional campaign committee proudly tweeting out this cherry picked chart showing gas prices dropping by $0.02 over two weeks. even "the washington post" thinks it's lame, saying it might be the worst defensive divide the administration yet. what jackass thought this was a good idea? >> dana: we should divert a jessica to how this all started. >> jessica: she already talked about it on "america's newsroom" but what's funny is that it was a joke.

he's a super lefty and i very much enjoy his sub stack. he did it as a joke. the dccc took it seriously and it's been retweeted by ron klain. it's really bad y-axis. it's insane. >> greg: more like "why not" access. >> jessica: it's a distraction. the 4.2% on the planet rate is good. i imagine the job numbers will be revised like it has been for the past few months. i think we are at an average at 588 a month. >> dana: the administration has these allies like the dccc. the campaign arm that tries to get democrats elected to the house of representatives. maybe somebody thought it was cute. there's no quality control, whatever. it seems harmless but it absolutely undermines all the credibility. everyone from "the washington post" on down basically said this is so

embarrassing. you should never be allowed to do this again. >> dagen: almost as embarrassing as the white house talking about the july 4th barbecue being $0.16 cheaper than a year ago. >> greg: i appreciate this kind of thing because it's a great lesson in manipulation. we are drowning in data and the most all of it is b.s. when the data comes out, it ends up being manipulated in way that it can't be trusted. what this chart did, in zeroed in on the smallest increase and created a line that appears to be dramatic when in fact it's a tiny little thing. for example, let's say you hear about a study that says the conclusion from the study is if you take this pill it will cut the rate of illness in half. but then you read up. it went from two people in 10,000 to one person in 10,000. cut in half but it's essentially meaningless. that's how you deal with data. the best thing you can do when you take statistics courses, learn how to read stuff, take an

economics class if you're young because then you'll be able to laugh at this and not get taken. >> jesse: they did this with the coronavirus. cases exploding 20%! cases went from four to six. i don't know if the democrats are dumb or they think the american people are dumb. if the democrats are dumb, that makes sense. it would explain their dumb policies. if they think the american people are so dumb that they will see this and go, joe, thank you. i'm so grateful, then it really pisses me off because it shows contempt for the voters. they're not going to look at the fine print. they will look at this and be deceived. there is a difference between spin which a lot of people do, and deception. i know that difference because occasionally i will spin. >> greg: you do. >> jesse: occasionally. >> greg: people get taken by this data game, they are the same people who fall for fad diets. people that are into drinking raw milk.

>> jesse: if you do your research you might realize that raw milk could be healthy to some people. let me continue. >> dagen: you and your left-wing progressive diet. >> jesse: this is the scam. it's like when some 50-year-old woman with obvious plastic surgery tells you she's 25 and she has never been under the knife. that's taking someone for a fool. it's clear she's been under the knife. it's clear she's not 20 years old. that's what that chart is. the other thing is, when the price of oil and gasoline was going up a dollar and $0.50 in the first nine months of the biden administration, biden said he couldn't control energy prices. then in two weeks ago was down $0.02 and he goes, that was me, guys. can you control it or not? >> greg: what is so idiotic about bragging about the decline in gas prices is it's related to supply.

if you're in favor of increasing the supply of oil, then you should be in favor of pumping is much is this nation possibly can. >> dana: you're right. they cannibalize their own policy. we want to have high gas prices because a new want to buy electric vehicles but electricity is also more expensive. now we want opec to pump more because we want lower gas prices. it's a vicious cycle. >> jesse: they are very thin. >> greg: you don't see a fat cannibal. >> jessica: i think it's great that people look at the cross tabs and see what group has been over sampled and make their own conclusions. >> jesse: this is how i know that you bring to the polls. i looked at the cross tabs. you oversample democrats 15 percentage points. >> jessica: we won. >> jesse: the poll in wisconsin the trouble is going to lose by 17 points. on. >> dana: how about new jersey?

>> jesse: another poll rigging extravaganza. >> dagen: if a 50-year-old is getting a face-lift, she's really 70 and she's never going to tell you she looks 25. she won't. she would look like she has a face-lift. up next. i am not speaking from experience. you won't believe who alec baldwin is blaming for that tragic movie scene accident.

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♪ ♪ >> greg: alec baldwin not taking any responsibility for the death of cinematographer halyna hutchins after accidentally shooting around a movie set. baldwin continuing to insist he didn't pull the trigger. >> everything is in her direction. she is guiding me through how she wants me to hold the gun. >> some say you're never supposed to point a gun at anyone on a set no matter what. >> unless the person is the cinematographer directing you to hold the gun. i let go of the hammer of the gun and the gun goes off. >> do you feel guilt? >> no. no.

i feel that someone is responsible for what happened, and i can't say who that is but i know it's not me. >> dana: i hated everything about that interview. one of the things i really disliked is speaking for myself, i felt very empathetic towards him and defended him and thought it's terrible. then to watch him a month later basically disassemble everything we witnessed with our own eyes and that we knew and trying to convince us that he has nothing to do with it is pitiful. >> dagen: he tried to act like the victim. alec baldwin is not the victim. he clearly didn't do that interview to make halyna hutchins' family feel better. he exuded to burnish his repetition and put a shine on his image and maybe get ahead of the future legal wrangling over her death. i didn't feel like he could possibly come across as a bigger narcissist or a bigger egomaniacal monster. the man who called his daughter a pig when she was young on a

voice mail message. the rage machine. somehow he did. hollywood is watching this. in reading the comments on social media about it is very telling. he is a festering boil on the neck of hollywood and he will be lanced at some point. >> dana: he indicated, he basically said maybe my career is over. but at the same time blaming the cinematographer who was the very woman who got shot and died. >> jessica: and at the same time said that when he saw her husband that they embraced and talked out how they are both going through something. he made sure to say what you're going through is worse. yes, you lost your wife and your son has no mother anymore. i found it all -- but we talked yesterday about doing this has dramatic interview was a mistake. it undoes any of the emotions that we thought he was having after the event. he put out a very short twitter

statement that said absolutely in shock, destroyed over this. he is clearly courting public opinion now because he said in the interview he's been assured he's not going to be charged with anything. no one is going to like that interview. i doubt if he watched it back he would even like that interview. i don't know if he just got ahead of -- out over his skis, whatever the saying is and just want with it because he was feeling powerful at that moment because he is back on tv and he was being interviewed by someone powerful. but it does not read well. >> dana: i don't know about that, that no one will like the interview. i was listening to npr this morning jesse before he came to work. it was 5:45 in the morning. the reporter telling his audience what happened in the interview and at the end he tells the host, i believe this was a master class in how to answer a lot of questions, protect yourself, was basically like saying what a great job

alec baldwin didn't pay >> jesse: i'm getting texts from conservative family members who think that alec was the real deal, that he was genuinely upset. i don't see it that way. i see him acting as a lawyer and soon-to-be human being. he probably should have cried for an hour instead of getting up there like he was testifying. it made no sense when he said i never checked the gun to seem it's hot and then he says he stays up at night because he can't sleep because he is always thinking about what he could have done differently. he could have checked the gun. that's what clooney said. clooney said we always check the gun to see if it's hot and step in office hit him with the gloomy line and he said "oh, good for him. good for him." and then to say like he never heard that anything was going on on the set, people are walking off because there was an accidental discharge. >> dana: we have this part of the interview. it's quite unbelievable what he said happened immediately

afterward. >> she goes down. i thought to myself, did she faint? the notion that there was a live round and that gun did not dawn on me until probably 45 minutes to an hour later. >> dana: that is checkable. >> greg: as we are listening to this, we are going, what the hell? who made the decision about the music as if that music is necessary to tell the story. it tells you the obvious thing. this isn't journalism. it's choreography. it has been a month, 30 days. that's not journalism. it's been fabricated or manufactured with the help of abc, george stephanopoulos, the music, the tension. everything there is designed to help them out. the argument itself, if it takes hold of the public consciousness, how many people are going to use this "the gun

went off. the gun went off. because what everybody knows that's impossible. it's impossible. i hate to use the phrase, teachable moment on gun safety. instead it's like, completely the opposite. this is like, it's like. i pointed the gun and they just went off. this is impossible. it's impossible. that is baldwin's defense. if it becomes commonplace then you will see more and more and more. i go back, i've said this a million times. if they hadn't demonized the nra, the nra could have been on these sets. you could have benefited from the instruction in the supervision. instead you demonized a group that probably could have saved that person's life but instead it's more important to be politically correct that it is to be safe. >> dana: you're right, see if anybody comes up with the alec baldwin defense. >> dagen: can i add, from "the new york post" today, she was interviewing a gun safety expert from the movies and said

why didn't george stephanopoulos to simply ask him, if you had to put that gun to your head, would you have checked it? >> jesse: oh oh, that's a good question. >> dagen: it was a layup. it was a show, just like his wife and this feick spanish life and the show they put on in vermont. >> dana: the jussie smollett trial coming to a verdict. my retirement plan with voya keeps me moving forward. they guide me with achievable steps that give me confidence. this is my granddaughter...she's cute like her grandpa. voya doesn't just help me get to retirement...

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>> jessica: a verdict in the jussie smollett trial could come as soon as monday, the prosecution resting its case but not before revealing more damning evidence against the actor. the osundairo brothers saying that jussie smollett one of the attack stated on video. chicago police officers saying on the stand that jussie smollett was upset when he was told the attack was not captured on camera. okay. greg, the defense has to say something. [laughter] so they went with this. also asked for a mistrial. and there was some crying. >> greg: how awful is this guy that he's actually repeating the same holds on to other people. remember, this whole thing

started. branding imaginary white people as racists attacking him late at night. that fell apart. now he's using the same kind of strategy on these two nigerians. now he's saying this is actually kind of a hate crime, a homophobic crime, that they are exacting on him. he is like, i'm going to try, it didn't work the first time. i'm going to do it again. if you believe this guy, you are scum. i have sympathy for the nigerian brothers. i have this feeling they didn't know they got into. they are not from this country. they want to be friends with this powerful actor. they would do anything he said. now he's just like, he's a psychopath. he's a sociopath. he doesn't care who he hurts. >> dana: he will destroy anybody. >> jessica: he is gone as far as to say or his attorneys have

said they were doing this because they got rejected for personal security jobs, which they said no. there is text messages for everything. >> dana: the other thing the defense did is they started attacking the judge saying that the judge was giving them dirty looks. and that that was going to taint the jury. i feel so sorry for this jury. first of all you have to disrupt your whole life to serve as a public servant. you got to go in there and you have to sit there with a straight face and actually try to believe this or lease listen to it. imagine when they go into the jury room for deliberations. you think they will sit there and go, how long do we wait? how long do we have to sit in here before we can go in there and say obviously this is nonsense. i feel sorry for them. >> jessica: it should be short, definitely. i think by tuesday. >> dana: and then the osundairo brothers should sue smollett's lawyer for slander. >> jessica: that seems like it

could happen. a feasible route after all of this. what we were talking about leading off the show, 3,000 hours of police work went into this. what are the repercussions of that when we have these larger discussions about what's going on in terms of being understaffed and how can we do better? >> jesse: you don't stage a fake hate crime hoax in the murder capital of the united states. >> jessica: i think you do. >> jesse: they have a lot of other things to do besides chase down this stupid guy. they say he's not going to spend any time if convicted. he should. i hope the judge who i hear is a straight shooting judge does give him a little jail time. the judge's wife is a trump supporter. she is a trumped owner. you know this guy's a good guy. [laughter] oprah tried to get out of jury duty with this judge and the judge said no. just because your oprah doesn't

mean you get to skip jury duty. i like this judge. when i join greg in our life of crime together, there's a lot of lessons to be learned. you don't stage a dry run for a crime at the scene of the crime. you don't bribe somebody with a check. you don't accuse someone of being a homophobe when there's pictures of them merging into gay pride pride parade. you don't say you got beat up by two body builders and then show a scratch on her arm to the police. so many things you don't do what he did all of them. he put three hate crimes in one. you have the noose, you have the assault. pick one. >> greg: i want to see stephanopoulos do that interview with the music. [laughter] i am sure they are friends. >> jessica: the doctor who examined him on the stand said yes, he was punched and kicked but he came in with light abrasions.

>> greg: don't beat him up. not the face. [laughter] >> dagen: if you're going to enter a life of crime, don't announce it to the world before you do it. the general rule is don't lie the law enforcement. don't lie to cops. they hate you. you lying to federal investigators, why did they go after martha stewart? she wound up in the clink for like five months just for lying. they will punish you and they will come for you. it's that simple. it's unfortunate. i would've loved to have been on this jury. most of the time it is so dry. this is an episode of law and order. >> dana: that's fair. >> greg: well written. >> dagen: too bad it wasn't broadcast so jussie smollett could have one last starring role. >> greg: he could play himself. >> dagen: exactly.

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>> greg: all right, fan mail friday. what childish thing do you still do as an adult? that's a pretty good question. let's start with you, dana. >> dana: i was thinking, i don't know. do you remember smarties? i have three of those today. >> greg: three packages? >> dana: three packages.

>> greg: that's a lot. you're going to be hanging on the ceiling, like lionel richie. >> jesse: go to someone else. i know there is something. >> greg: it is in password. >> jessica: i'm happy to bail you out. i don't know if my answer is good. when you were young, you had favorite things he would wear every day and you demand them. i still go through phases. not just because of my increased size and i only have five things that fit me right now but i do that. this is the week of the polka dot t-shirt. it could be anything. but it happens all the time. >> dagen: arm pit poots. i'm really good at it. >> greg: i hear that is the number one strategy to get on "special report." making fart noises with your

armpit. >> jesse: i can't think of anything. i eat the peanut butter, i eat peanut butter with a spoon out of the tub. is that childish? >> greg: no. do you know it's childish? i am 57 and i bite my nails to the bone. look at my hangnail spread and i have got a wart that i keep scratching at. >> jesse: you had it for a while. >> greg: i think it has its own brain and it's telling me things. i love this one from bob. what's your hometown famous for? >> jesse: the city of brotherly love. that's not what we are for. portable fans, roughness. >> dana: what about the sandwiches? >> jesse: hoagies and cheesesteaks for sure. but really bad fans. >> greg: hall and oates, aren't they from philadelphia?

>> dana: what about the liberty bell? >> greg: that is cracked. >> dagen: patrick henry's last home and burial places in my hometown. and charles, the member of the football hall of fame who won five super bowls. >> greg: 49ers. >> dagen: and the cowboys. >> greg: he was a 49er first. >> dagen: correct. >> greg: i know my 49ers. jessica, did i go to you yet? >> jessica: bagels and pizza. >> greg: new york city. i'm glad you didn't use nationalities like you did in rehearsal. [laughter] >> dana: denver, colorado. >> jesse: that's what denver is known for? >> greg: the altitude. my hometown. it's known for me. me. san mateo. i am the best thing to ever come

out of san mateo. sure, there was barry bostwick who was in "rocky horror." tom brady, san mateo. bigger. bigger. who are famous people? i think bruce springsteen lived in san mateo. >> dana: what about the cheater? >> greg: barry bonds. bigger. want to be the hardest thing to give up? should i stop? quickly. the hardest thing to give up? >> dana: dogs. >> jesse: chocolate. >> jessica: candy. >> dagen: men. [laughter] >> greg: you took my answer. i'm going to say charity. [laughter] she is a stripper downtown. "one more thing" is up next.

♪ ♪ >> greg: time no for "one more thing," check this out, andrea, she's 24, hoping to make her lips bigger, her 27th injection. >> jesse: no supply-chain issue they are. we support andrea though. and >> greg: no, we don't we don't. >> jesse: support me on tucker tonight, i'm hosting 8:00 p.m. eastern also, saturday, 8:00 p.m. eastern, minority leader kevin mccarthy soon to be speaker my speaker mccarthy, dana loesch, raymond arroyo what we call a loaded show. >> greg: my show tonight is amazing. this lady, dana perino, allen, running for texas governor, i'm not going to ruin his last name,

adam corolla is on, kat timpf, it's great, much 11:00 p.m. and let's do this. ♪ ♪ you know i was in new jersey the other day and i could not believe it, i looked out and what's coming up the street i see john kerry just driving -- riding a bicycle heading up the street to be agreed there he is buried you so stiff, but there he is, john kerry on his way probably get carbon offsets anyway. you know why, godspeed. >> jessica: i said, you guys i couldn't really make out. >> jesse: i wanted you to believe it. >> dana: more christmas spirit and a great idea, john and rachel duffy's book highlighting all -- don't roll your eyes.

all-american christmas, two straight weeks and the number one christmas book this year. great stories from the fox family. more christmas spirit fox nation all-american tree lighting, this weekend, although it seems to be late already. brian kilmeade to come alight the tree, we highlight fox nation specials for christmas coming up. i say we, we are not there, i did not get invited to the tree lighting. >> greg: fox family! it means they're going to pay you less. >> jessica: i'm the family member who does the armpit boots at dinner. >> greg: just give me more money, that's my slogan. >> dana: i went to show you something i thought was so cute, this is stan, and he's an amazing -- this is my assistant

caroline sure what to come by puppy living in north carolina and he didn't want to go. the mom, trying to get him to go. you're not going anywhere like that very fast. >> jesse: fun to jump in the leaf pile. sure is. brings you back, doesn't it? no leaf piles for you. >> greg: who didn't die find? >> dana: bell get to 40 and be like, jessica, you're here? incredible dashcam footage shows a car being wedged under a truck after attempting to make a lien change. 19-year-old woman who remains incredibly calm singling out that she needed help. the man who recorded the video

got the man to pull over and shocked when he had discovered under his truck. best part, no one was injured at all. >> greg: too loud. that's what it is. >> jesse: see you back here on monday, everybody. >> bret: good evening, i'm bret baier, we are coming to you tonight from the ronald reagan presidential library in california. inside this weekend's national defense forum. defense leaders taking place against the backdrop of the ledger in an act of china, demanding around unwilling to bend for a new nuclear deal, and an aggressive russia massing troops along the border with ukraine. we will have much more about activities here throughout the program. but first, breaking tonight a story that's getting a lot of attention in the country at this hour. thear