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or be to resistant and for those as being is caught up in the skiing, they're already caught in the spell, but is open to all, both big or quite small. so the snowboarders skis, is yours and yours to choose, reporting. >> hello everyone, welcome to the big sunday show in his own but is untapped night, build back better plan and senator manchin says no to the multitrillion dollar spending cut. >> this is a no. on this legislation i have tried everything i know. >> and coming up, some are furious over the bills delays democrats are left wondering
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what happens next and joe pretty. >> the supply chain crisis is coming for a holiday favorite a new antiviral drugs used to treat the covid-19 and when will this ever get under control and that is later in the show pretty. >> what you have charlie read. >> dozens of americans rescued from afghanistan are unsafe and callable is one of biden's biggest foreign policy successes which is a shocker. >> president biden scheduled to deliver a stark morning on tuesday to those who remain unvaccinated this is beginning to look up lot like march 2020, with broadway shows closing and get setting back to online learning predict nih director sm of cases rising once again predict. >> we are in for a world of trouble i'm afraid in the next month or two, but there are things people can do on a hope that we can talk about this is sort of said curve ball would gotta be it pretty.
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>> is biden administration prepares, doctor redfield slams the brakes on the vatican saying that we need to learn to live with covid-19, not shutting everything down in fear. this virus is going to be with us for the duration and they've got to start learning how to live with it and i've always thought that we need to look at the situations as he had to do them in a safe and responsible way in the city seek director never advocated shutting down predict that is not in the public best interest from kids k-12 and thought well what we needed to do is learn how to give the schools open in a safe and responsible way. >> to me i will begin with you as we are just now learning it then senator elizabeth warren has tested positive for covid-19 and tammy wasn't expecting that you're hoping to hear from the president on tuesday pretty. >> for small obviously we were senator warren the best also can heal, eight months pregnant, has
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also tested positive for covid-19 and she's doubled and vaccinated and this is what we are looking at as they noted, you don't get rid of the virus, they mutate in the change in there with us for the duration and we've got to be able to live with it and most of the country actually, is doing that in the coast seems to be la in new york in the united kingdom and seems to be in the doomsday message but interestingly, from new york and, while the cases are startling surging it, they hospitalizations and the deaths are not in when you look at the range but what covid-19 has been pretty. tammy: for the tuesday message, it's interesting because i guess it is so urgent and it can wait for 72 hours than not quite sure what health he is going to say but with these new cases, but we do know is the break through cases or whatever good to be vaccinated because yes you're going to have a much more mild experience and with the omicron be mild, people are a symptom
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medic or is like a cold sewing of vaccinations are important but the fact is that to be unvaccinated, and a place this as an armageddon environment, i thank you so political, and will continue to backfired americans are growing even more tired of it. tammy: and charlie, about how life is going to be from now on because covid-19 is now in our world and this be here for a while and here is what dr. fauci had to say about it this morning. >> it is certainly much more of a crisis of the unvaccinated but there are other tools beside the vaccine and wearing a mask complements of protection that you get from a vaccine in the boost in the vaccinated or unvaccinated under certain circumstances, the masks work so you can do both and you should do both. tammy: and charlie he also went on to say that we could be
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wearing masks on planes from here on out. charlie: yes, we don't have to go through all of the ridiculous things the past couple of years and especially from dr. anthony fauci and everything else in all of the switching and the changing positions on everything and it's all reached a level of uncertainty but i certainly never expected out of the health crisis in this country but the real problem we have here right now is the fact the biden and harris entire campaign was based on basically to live, one of his donald trump is racist but the second one is that they were going to get elected and they could do something to stop the virus from spreading and of course that is not true but don't let that get into the way of the fact that there going to move heaven and earth in order to run the sort of political game all of the way to the very end and this what are seeing with all of this hysteria about the omicron variant and you certainly see stories in the press now about something called
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the silent covid-19 which is another term for covid-1id-19 tt is no symptoms which most normal americans so that is like good news, that is like were sort of moving kind of where we would like to go with this. and as doctor redfield said, 20 with us in dealing with the symptoms and dealing with people who are most vulnerable to it and protecting them is probably the best way forward not this political thing that biden and administration is doing. tammy: it when we talk about schools that were going to do with the kids and with the planning to the kids, there are schools across the united states are having to go back to remote learning because of the staffing problems which is heartbreaking but there's an interesting case, the pope and appoint folks to come out of california la county, the la county health department there has implemented something called test to stay in the did this in the phone they allowed some schools to go to tested tuesday, is said that the
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strategy allows unvaccinated students exposed to someone infected by the coronavirus to stay in the school as long as they properly wear a mask and ago to coronavirus test per week in schools that did not use the test to say strategy and according to the study, lost a total of 92455 in person school days during the september 20th, through october 31st. when the students were for importing and that is just mind blowing but joe you know, when i think about it and i saw this i thought well what if we also also switched out school for workplaces and what is and if this is something doctor redfield is talking about that could be possible pretty. guest: it only makes sense that if you test negative, than just because you have may or may not been exposed to somebody who has covid-19, if you do not take the whole class out and you don't shut the whole school day unannounced year my daughter was at an outdoor soccer practice
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and one of her teammates tested positive for covid-19 and the whole team then had to quarantine it ten days and again outdoor practice and soccer and not exactly compact sport, there's distance so it is an indoor contagion and for ten days my kids how to stay home and my kids and do have multiple times because one kid then had a domino effect on the entire class and a lot of the schools my girl goes to don't get me wrong, they were just following the guidelines that were imposed by the county the state getting back to the president quick, this is the president who work 447, like 24 hours a week in seven months a year an easy question to ask about this address and tuesday night. why wait until tuesday to address the nation, why is he so allergic to working on weekends or past 3:00 p.m. on your average weekday and maybe this address, you can talk about houses vice president kamala harris told the los angeles times that they did not see omicron coming and that is the nature of what this awful virus has been which as it turns out,
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as mutations and variance and as it turns out, we always knew that the virus had variance and of course and clean up in the aisle seven far as a follow-up statement so this is not going to be an fyi it will be a cya, placing blame and offering solutions and again as charlie said this the president controlling the virus needs done anything but that but he'll tell all of us it is not our fault. alicia: will see what happens on tuesday and thank you everyone democrats are in disarray and his joe manchin said that he is a no on build back better and derailing the president's signature legislation and details in response from the white house next.
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alicia: welcome back everybody the democrats are still hopeful the present biden's a bill the packet better, or broke spending plan major blow this morning, the senator joe manchin.
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>> i can go home and explain these people west virginia, i can vote to continue with this piece of legislation it and i just can't predict and i tried everything possible mckenna get there read. >> your dad and this is a no. >> this is a known legislation i've tried every thing i note to do. tammy: predictably the bill supporters, especially progressives. >> we all know the senator mansion could you know, these excuses that he made it i think are complete . tammy: with jen psaki reading that we will continue this if he will reverse his condition and again into honor his prior commitments to be true to his
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word but to fight for build back and better is too important to give up and we will find a way to move forward next year. and what's interesting here alicia acuna is that you have a divided thing here, is not a mandate for any of this or anything and we know that the market people have rejected this progressive agenda, we get the signals and signs of that and direct action of that for the last 11 months including the election which rejected them rated. alicia: he has signaled this for six months and it is not a surprise money you think that there pretending as though this is a shock pretty. >> i don't know, that was a surprise me, if they think the senator mansion was someone who we added pretending to be 70 was not in literally is not been paying attention we have known since july, exactly what senator mansion start and yes he was willing to negotiate and he was willing to have conversations
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but he still having parameters and some of the people in his own party, are behaving as if they are surprised that they don't know where he comes from like they don't know the state from where or which he represents. that's really the shock here in a had me scratching my head. we know that when he has said these are my limitations and we also know that when the infrastructure bill passed, everyone while italic everybody was in it and then out okay, what was not infrastructure was just going to be in the build back better and he has been saying than a void about covid-19 and worried about inflation and today he said it, once again, so people can hear them in the back, this is not for me or the people of my state and really as you pointed out tammy, a lot of voters are out there concerned and this is not for them rated. tammy: any listed that and of all of these things charlie, in order for this common sense for
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the american people, they've noticed that and at the same time, the courses now, it's almost as if they expect to be able to bully him into going against what he represents and what is your take. charlie: it is really disgusting and listen to people like amar and jen psaki has never been elected to anything calling joe manchin a liar and talking about the heat how he cannot be trusted to because he striving to represent the people of west virginia any is supposed to and the idea that these people think that he somehow works for them and works for the white house under the democratic party, it is so appalling and really does show the nasty disconnect between these people and the market people and even their own voters because look, this is will they run the entire game in washington, they have control over the levers of power in
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washington. this is a massive massive failure and the reason it is a failure is because they did not listen to people like joe manchin and kyrsten sinema who told them from the beginning as you pointed out, there's a real problem here is going to cause real problems that will hurt their constituents back home. that's who they're working for, not for jen psaki. >> it is fascinating because you have everything the biden administration has done has failed and everything, that is a disaster and you're saying that in the polls and stopping this bill, to say like it's the democrats are over, and if they stop this bill, maybe joe, this is going to help the democrats by stopping another catastrophe from hitting the country and do you think that should be in the minds of the democrats in washington and in the white house. >> is a great question to me and connection . so if inflation continues to go up the many
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think it will in 2022 heading into this midterms predict. joe: you could point directly to this will and say see, when you fled the system a with trillions of dollars, the main the value of the dollar born may lead to more inflation so by connecting the . it does help them a little bit but is too numbers that really tell the story every democrat could address these numbers and 74 percent of west virginia voters agree the senator joe manchin should oppose this bill and that's three quarters of west virginia as saying don't vote for it ands pulling a disapproval in west virginia, not hard to do the math your company the way the most powerful in the country now joe manchin, joe rogan and joe biden and i will keep myself out of this one. it must have really hit, was a really hurts good like salt and pixie six into one that senator
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mansion decided to make this has been a "fox news" on sunday, and by the way, this was the beginning of the end of the presidency nancy pelosi will be retired, and mitch mcconnell will be a majority leader and church were born the party will against joe biden and find another run in 2024 pretty. tammy: i think that a lot recognize that they recognize the heart of the democratic party and everyone else seems to be an extremist at this point well, nothing everybody and when we come back in, 40 americans are back from afghanistan, nothing to the joe biden administration and details on how they got here, that is next. before nexium 24hr, anna could only imagine a comfortable night's sleep without frequent heartburn waking her up. now, that dream... . ...is her reality. nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts, for all-day, all-night protection.
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>> welcome back to the big sunday show, 39 americans are left behind in afghanistan after president biden's chaotic withdrawal are safely back on u.s. soil rescued not by the administration, by a group of veterans and this is after the government admitted this week tweeting hundreds more of americans left behind than what was initially disclosed and meanwhile, the white house is making no mention of afghanistan when the administration's foreign policies successes, alicia, this is all around such an amazing story. and obviously is so terrific to have those americans home and on american soil but to a degree especially to consider how much the administration argues they did not leave anybody behind it did not want to get out of cabell. how much did this undermine the earlier claims by the
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administration would. alicia: i think you bring up a great point charlie, but were sitting right there in the fact they were rescued not by the state department or by the american government but by the veterans who went in and carried out this mission is to them, but i think that undermines the argument in another itself. it's heartbreaking that we are still talking about this in these folks are barely making it out of think that they are safe but we also have to remember we have so many of our allies and so many people who help save the lives of americans over the past two decades in afghanistan you're still there in our state department is not able to get back here and they helped us and now they are starving, the children are starving and they cannot access money in their own thanks. i think the story itself while none of the top of the headlines anymore, it remains is getting ever more tragic especially now that we are in midterm.
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charlie: no kidding and joe, and almost reed is like a script of good movie from back in the 70s and having the soldiers for hire and going back to rescue people from some strange jungle in south america or something, what you make of this whole point about jen psaki not listing one of the great successes after she touted his exactly that for months predict. joe: yes she said it was unconditional success i believe back in august when this debacle came to light and jen psaki now has gone back and the only way that you can lift list them is by planes out of crickets because we just talked about afghanistan is now the ground prices no credit to buy the next attention tight is no gaining influence than ever with an eye on taiwan after the winter
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olympics in any of russia with 100,000 troops in ukraine board right now and majoring a player in your because this administration does nothing and iran just left us out of the room in terms of restarting nuclear talks read a situation where you say, besides that how did you enjoy it. [laughter] charlie: one of my favorite things about this whole story tammy is a 39 americans who were rescued before they brought them back to the united states, they captured them all with covid-19 then gave them vaccine before they brought them back to the united states and proving that we should be face veterans are u.s. border and normally they would do a better job of keeping people out of the border may be that they might also do a better job making sure that the people who do command are vaccinated. what you make of all of that read. tammy: that is the reason why were not relying on the russians to get us to the international space station because is the
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public-private partnership and about the american people in the entrepreneurship and the value of a fellow americans and out-of-control bureaucracy and another example that even still, they have been is been taken so long to dispatch people out because the american government has been in the regulations and allowed to land in certain countries. those the issue from the stars of this is starting today and not given up but this is a small number of all of those as alecia very well put the number american still left to maybe didn't want to come back because we wanted to bring their families with them and putting those families of risk for this entire thing is been horrible pretty and putting to jen psaki, just a couple weeks ago, she made the smug joke when asked about this regarding how the americans were left and we found it was much more than what the administration has said and she said well, what you think, but we can't put a people trackers on people.
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in this kind of remarkable dismissal of the american concern the average person's concern about innocent people in the grasp of multiple terrorist groups and for her to make some kind of joke in order to defend the white house and clearly deprived policy is shameful so we know what that we can do it and the veterans have done it their own government has refused to which remains that is a choice and it has event limitations we have to remember why was auburn and continue to act on this predict. charlie: real quick alecia, to see if this issue it will play out in next year's election pretty. alicia: you know it's tough to say and i think that republicans will try to do that but i think they're going to be so many other problems with the democrats are going to be dealing with and sadly this will probably go to the wayside at some point and so will the folks in need.
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charlie: that probably underscores another reason why the politicians should be more careful about being in afghanistan the first place because a lot of voters don't care that much about as i think that is great point okay moving on, still ahead, the supply chain crisis, comes from holiday sweet treat candycane along with the potential of saving drug and that is all next. ray loves vacations. but his diabetes never seemed to take one. everything felt like a 'no'. everything. but then ray went from no to know. with freestyle libre 2, now he knows his glucose levels when he needs to. and... when he wants to. so ray... can be ray. take the mystery out of your glucose levels, and lower your a1c. now you know. try it for free. visit freestylelibre.us (vo) nowadays, business can happen anywhere, anytime.
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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ thank you. merry christmas, dad. ♪ ♪ >> 1982, welcome back to the big sunday show, the latest casualty the supply chain crisis is a holiday favorite, candy canes and when candy, when shop owner say that we only received half of our candycane order from the
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holiday season it is all up almost immediately we currently have zero in stock and raw materials and ingredient shortages globally of had quite an impact for the crisis is having more serious effect as well. the hills reporting that the supply shortage avenue antiviral drug trends the fight against omicron braided and charlie i will come to you first, a trivia question and it's a pretty easy question, okay, how to the ports, as a transportation secretary visited long beach ner from me and what is that number be 30 was a known number i didn't do well in math so i think i'm wrong about that >> into find it interesting that is not engaged in this crisis need to take maternity leave without telling anybody at me i
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think it would be his sense of urgency but this is an administration like to put in hours. >> it is astonishing like they sort of, an enormous amount of feeling like they just sort of deserve all of this i belong here and they don't have to even show up for work and also, her new that we had to import our candycane's i can't believe that we don't make our own candycane spit it does -underscore very important point that i think that the republicans would be very wise to address this issue and embrace it and run with it and that is, the writing on a campaign, of ensuring that your products from medicines to the vitamin c, do they candycane, they are made in america and changing the law to make it more appealing for manufacturers to make these things and for the workers to work in a america to make these products in america so the impervious to the supply
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chain, that is a really good political technique and donald trump is the only politician republican or democrat, in modern history to understand that any of the republicans understand they can probably pick up and bought a voters from the democratic column it if they run a campaign like that. >> i'm in solidarity with you, i am literally wearing candycane right now pretty. joe: to make people think candycane and buy it if they can get their hands on them and tammy let me ask you this quick, because it's easier to complain but how about solutions of if you are running the show, how would you fix this problem and is it fixable at this point. tammy: will the damage continuing to be done, that's fixable by stopping the people doing the damage and this is like the emergency room, someone comes in, and what you do to stop the bleeding before you then begin a diagnosis and you stop the decline and then they come in and you figure out how to get the person back on their
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feet. so we need an emergency room doctor to stop the people who are causing this damage and to charlie's point, the fda has announced that there 111, importing drugs on backorder including antibiotics, cancer drugs, heart medications, because of the supply chain crisis and 80 percent of the ingredients for our prescription drugs are manufactured outside of the united states and 80 percent so if you're not getting your prescription and they say it is delayed or is going to stop, this is now affecting everyone's lives under normal medications and this is across the board. so yes, we have got to stop this kind of wonton damage is being done by the democrats almost as though it were deliberate braided and then donald trump is of course great ideas come about manufacturing and bringing the company some american companies
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back home and giving incentives. and the trade arguments, the charges we are dealing with to make it more valuable to make things here, he had that of course in the democrats who work against that and this is the and literally life and death for all of us. charlie: and that is the thing and we heard it jen psaki talking about this, and as you said, this is life-and-death and alisha, we only have about 60 seconds and is a tough question 22 condense and 60 seconds with from journalism, we spoke about this yesterday, and how you can spend things as much like but a visual is a visual and when you see all of those coax off of los angeles long beach and savannah, that is something that people see it on the screens and really do not have to do too much more from a journalism perspective after that, it tells the story but i think the media deserve some credit, 60 minutes did a
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great great piece on the supply chain crisis were sing a lot obvious and "fox news" and estimates on the other cable news network so overall these been getting the attention mostly deserves pretty. alicia: is getting enough attention also i think that when we talk about the voters, they don't care what a politician is saying it when they cannot get their stuff. it is as simple as that and when they can really feel it in a very real way and i'm gonna to walgreens to get my prescription and they will tell me, two days behind for medications and fourthly, i don't need to live there are people that are really bad situations here who cannot get the medication and he and they cannot get the items they need for their homes. that's what they feel when you file, that closely to yourself, that's when it matters. charlie: coming up, more high diversity from la district attorney, violent juvenile felons out of the street with just a slap on the wrist in the details is next.
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alicia: los angeles district attorney george, is introducing a new program to give violent juvenile felons get out of jail free card programs like burglary assault and theft in the new initiative faces unique and criticism with their own deputy opposing the measure including who said basically is saying
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that we are going to give you a slap on the wrist with violent crimes on the rise, it is a slap on the wrist, is a really the best solution it i'm going to start with you joe because i was looking at the list of crimes included and in addition to what i said, the sexual family and arson. joe: so you could sexual is also one and one would think that one would think it was because when a man, he was an ied got out on the thousand dollar bill, why would was the rest of the tried to run over the mother of his child and then, he runs in the grandmother and the children and all of those innocent people and people are still in the hospital as we are doing the show right now from that attack in the kite never should have seen the light of day. so what is la doing the situation, let's continue that trend i'm not putting people behind bars when they do horrible things like us all people like sexual is all people
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and like obviously enter people like robin things, is unbelievable that after everything that is happened this year, after the crime rate that we are sing and even the democratic mayors are waking up to this they're actually going to try to go ahead with this and it deserves a ton of media scrutiny this is dangerous life-and-death stuff. alicia: and they brought up an interesting point, this was supposed to be different program and to him, to be that you're not and flowcharting someone, they're not going to the core systems and you doing that you're not being monitored. charlie: and more importantly the laws not being enforced and if they don't like the laws as you go back to legislature and have them changed the book clearly george did not get the memo because i just pointed out joe, you're starting here from the democratic mayors across the country who remembered that were coming into an election year and during election year, that's when the democrats pretend to
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care about law and order and care about the safety of the people they represent and they're starting sort of walk back all of these insane lunatic and crazy claims about defunding the police, letting people on a bail or without bail and raising the money to get people out of vail because her out of jail because they can go back out and commit more crimes. he's either not gotten the memo where he doesn't care the suspect is more that he does not care but i think that obviously something like this in an election year which we are getting ready to go into, the voters, this is not a democrat or republican issue. safety and crime is an issue that affects everybody, equally and the democrats choose to try to run on this agenda, the going to make agreements price for it in november pretty. alicia: and timmy brings up the question of what about the members of society following the
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laws who are not committing the crimes in that case in point here, and i'll show you a headline from the foxbusiness network, real estate website, a don't included crime data from property listings due to racial bias to go further this from the redfin sheet officer to get home printed the gaps with reported crimes, the other data sources that consider would be a national survey from the bureau of justice statistics and also by virtue of being a survey, there's racial bias in responding to these answers, this will get reflected directly the data and we believe the redfin and all real estate sites should not show neighborhood crime data. tammy: that is lovely and really helpful for the families, the average person, the skin color, it transcends ethnicity as a remarkable statement and negatives is, want to buy a home can also check with your local
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areas and asked people in shops and stores and the nature of what is happening in the neighborhoods and are not limited in that regard but when it comes to what gascon is doing, he is a true believer and he ran on the saying that he was going to do things like this in another case where people voted maybe just not did not believe in but there's also now when you talk about age, they've also removed it the category of putting on that if you're arrested for a crime, and you're a gang member, they would charge you more because you're a gang member but that is also been eliminated so when you're looking at the kinds of crimes but they said that you mentioned and when it comes to age issues, effectively giving gangs the green light in those games affect communities of color, the effect all of the dynamic of the inner-city in los angeles to wear angelenos, and of the natural loss angelenos, is that those of the communities
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affected by this and that alone, this is the racist policies in these communities of colors and tomorrow gang violence and having people, the criminals returned immediately back to the communities and it's outrageous. alicia: will stay tuned, the big for his next. your kindness outshines your highs and lows. your strength can outlast any bad day. because you are greater than your bipolar i, and you can help take control of your symptoms - and ask about vraylar. some medicines only treat the lows or highs, once-daily vraylar is proven to treat depressive, acute manic, and mixed episodes of bipolar i in adults. full-spectrum relief for all bipolar i symptoms. elderly patients with dementia-related psychosis have an increased risk of death or stroke. call your doctor about unusual changes in behavior
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alicia: it is time now the big four, my pick of the big four, another solomon christmas, check out this video the bear cubs attacking decoration, and inflatable, rudolph and obviously, having no patients, there's mama there to the left and you can hear the moment think the window and, stop it if it is just a toy but no i want to remind you, this is how you kick it down and until over unlike yesterday's video, let's show that by 20 does. but then he runs away but unlike our bare friend, who stated with his target because no interlopers no matter how read your nose are not allowed and he
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will never stop and he will get that rudolph if it's the last thing that he ever does. and rudolph clearly survived and will survive again and again is so good luck with this mr. bear. charlie pretty. charlie: to me, you definitely win without one, it doesn't get any better than that in my pick which is lame actually, it is this viral tiktok video and check this out. >> are you vaccinated pretty. the president joined the jonas brothers as part of this push to promote if covid-19 vaccines and other than these really terrible acting all around, and i don't know who the jonas brothers are
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except that i think it might have something to do with music. it is part of this administration's desperation to be cool like the last democrat in the white house and you had barack obama a rockstar, and joe biden is not any as desperate desperate to sort of surround himself with sort of making himself seem like he is way cooler than he is pretty i don't think that he is succeeding at that anyway, what you have joe pretty. joe: the jonas brothers are from and currently doing the show from somewhere in northern new jersey so that is our pride and joy right there in any way, let's talk about a true icon. after suffering you remember that catastrophic car crash and rolling down the hill know the injuries that went along with this, ten months ago and many people that they would never see them on the golf course again
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and sure enough, tiger and some charlie a championship in second place behind of all people, look, tiger said he will not be able to go back on the tour full time, that is fine but he plays, couple of tournaments here and there and obviously major championship, that's what it comes into, is presently 15 major championships, the masters u.s. open and pga championship and jack nicholas had 18, that is the goal, winfrey for high or surpass the golden bear, can he do it, well we counted him out before so we will see. alicia: just love seeing tiger to set up there. so i have spider-man, nobody home records opening this weekend tuned 50 $3m dollars, this replace the marble. that third-highest opening weekend in history a box office and i just love feeding on a good note because the movie
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industry really needed this job in the arm especially now dealing with his omicron inside to see people are going to the theaters they have a mask on pretty you can still eat popcorn that anyway, that does it for us we will see you a week from today, and were on the fox report which starts right now. . >> the west virginia democrat telling "fox news sunday" this morning that "i cannot continue with this piece of legislation i just can't. the white house as senator manchin statement is at odds with his discussions this week with the pre

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