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domination of the market by a smaller number of companies come about four in the meat-packing area has reduced competition. squeezed out small businesses and farmers and increased prices for consumers. i am a capitalist, but capitalism without repetition is not capitalism, it is exploitation. some going to continue to do everything in my power to make our capitalist system work better to provide more competition and lower prices for american consumers. and they're still going to do well. but that's not going to be enough. we still need to ease the burden on working families by making everyday things more affordable and accessible. average people are getting clobbered. in gas prices at the pump are up. we are working to bring them
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down, but they are up. food prices are up, we're going to bring them down as well. i grew up in a family where if the price for a gallon of gas at the pump went up significantly, it was felt that the family. i get it, i understand. but these things are necessities but that's not the totality of what family needs. you still have to pay for child care may still have to pay for prescription drugs and still have to pay for health care. there is more than one way to help a family when it comes to their standard of living. we're going to work to bring down the prices that are way up but guess what? we're going to keep strengthening the supply chain and bring down the cost of all of these goods. in the meantime, there's a lot we can do to give families extra breathing room. for example, child care. families can spend $14,000 a year per child and in some cases less than $14,000 a year for child care. our plan cuts in half but most
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families are paying helping their budgets, helping keep millions of parents and especially women and a lot of people back to work because they can get child care. the cost of prescription drugs, insulin cost $10 to make but some are paying up to $650 a month on average and as high as $1,000 a month. think about all those americans out there with type 1 diabetes who need this insulin to stay alive and stay healthy for the 200,000 american children with type 1 diabetes, think about being one of the parents without the insurance on the money to pay for that insulin, how do you look your child in the eye who needs insulin and they have no idea how they're going to figure out how to pay for it. think about what that does to them, their self-esteem, their ability, to look their child in
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the eye. we cap it at $35 on our plan. $35 a month. companies are still going to make a healthy profit, we can do that tomorrow with the stroke of a pen but we have a generation that is a young child and an elderly parent who both need help. we can help them take care of mom and dad and make it work. as a program that allows us with medicare that someone can come and install a handrail in the shower so mom doesn't fall to make sure they have what they need to live in safety and dignity in their home, pick up prescriptions, we can do all of that. so mom and dad put their head on a pillow at night they can have peace of mind that their elderly parents are doing well and their children are okay. we're still going to work on gas
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prices, so going to work on the food prices but in the meantime so we can deliver that piece of mind might give them a little breathing room and proposals that i have out there, nobody earning less than $400,000 would pay a single addition and taxes, not a single penny. and a lot of customers who are willing to pay corporate taxes to see that happen. you heard me say 100 times. it you have 55 companies that paid zero taxes for last couple of years. they made over $400 billion. we can do this without increasing the deficit, actually reduce the deficit and came to me several months ago to say this plan would not only not raise inflation, it would ease
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long-term inflationary pressures. the bottom line is this, the united states is once again in a position not only to compete with the rest of the world but outcompete the rest of the world. we keep coming together and investing in the backbone of america, the working class in the middle class folks, there is no limit to what we can achieve. so let's keep the wages rising and let's start lowering costs. our businesses the best in the world. our workers are the best in the world. give them half a chance they will outcompete anyone anywhere in the world. we can have a quality of life are working people that they deserve at the same time and by the way, the middle class when it does well, when the working class does well, everybody does well. everything is better for the wealthy to super wealthy and the slightly wealthy, nobody gets hurt. insulin's these challenges head-on, keep building a better
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america. want to thank you and god bless you and god bless our troops. >> harris: sometimes we will hang by for an extra ten seconds to see if the president might want to take some questions from the media to me you saw there he didn't from inside the white house taking a victory lap on the jobs created in a month of january because we spent months going in the wrong direction, people jumping back into the workforce in those numbers reflecting. what you did probably notice right away was his difference in dialogue talking like he gets where people are and how much pain they are in at the pump and he tried to go down the road with hamburger meat but then turned around and talked about other stuff in gasoline and that sort of thing comes up again, child care. and then a huge political push for build back better, his legislative agenda that he
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really does need a victory on. although there are two people in that room or rather to people not in that room who might matter most to getting his legislation through on those of the moderate senators of kyrsten sinema and joe manchin so we will see if that pulls with the american people with touting victory in all of that but if it ever gets regenerated on capitol hill, going to be democrats inside his own party and he's going to have to really convince. let's get to this, president biden may have gone against the left defund the police narrative but is not blaming the criminals are progressive policies that have allowed them to run amok in cities like new york as he now calls for another cracked out. i'm harris faulkner joined by my cohost emily compagno and kayleigh mcenany. former california gubernatorial candidate caitlyn jenner, her first time here on out numbered
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and in the center, virtual seat today for iraq war veteran and founder of the douglas society, rob smith. i've promised. but first, you will notice we are all wearing red today in honor of the american heart association go red campaign, the tie is looking snappy designed to raise awareness about women's heart health. now let's get back to president biden who finally addressed the crime crisis as he met with new york city mayor eric adams. for he made a stunning admission about the defund the police movement. >> the answer is not to abandon our streets, that's not the answer. the answer is to come together building trust and making us all safer. the answer is not to defund the police. >> harris: "the new york post" editorial board so the president did not offer a single real solution to the cities surge in
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violence with the newspapers cover referring to his message as blah, blah, blah. going to you first fear reaction. for your reaction. do we not have a microphone on our guest? okay, we're going to get that right. let's go to rob. >> rob: absolutely. i think what's going on here is this is obviously a very political move from biden and the biden administration to wrap themselves around eric adams. eric adams has made being tough on crime a centerpiece of what he is all about, it's one of the reasons that he got elected but i have to call them out on this because they seem to want to have it both ways when it comes to being tough on crime. on one hand, jen psaki invited and the administration saying they have never been before the defund the police movement but
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the most prominent and popular voices in their party particularly in social media congressional superstars like aoc and ayanna pressley have been active proponents of the defund the police movement and in cori bush's case, she comes out of st. louis at her car was just hit by gunfire couple of days ago. thank god that she's okay but it's an example of how this rhetoric actually makes people's lives more dangerous. furthermore, they are acting as if the current vice president kamala harris did not tweet out a gofundme link to support these violent writers who are pushing the defund the police rhetoric in minneapolis this one and a half years ago. it i cannot take this seriously because they really do seem to be trying to have this both ways when it comes to this administration. >> harris: it seems terribly obvious to me and maybe i'm wrong and this is unfair, but i would ask is this all the dance
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to get those poll numbers up? now you are saying the correct things about situations but as rob is pointing out, you can't erase the very recent past and we have actual real solutions for the future that came out yesterday. >> kayleigh: we had no solutions, just rhetoric focusing on guns and weapons and not the real problem which are the liberal das but yesterday i had heard that jen psaki was asked live about whether president biden would attend the funeral. yesterday, there was a funeral for a fallen officer and she basically didn't answer the questions i going to try to find those remarks and i stumbled upon something really interesting. i had our producers pulled it. pulled up the time when biden went to a funeral of a fallen officer, it was a vice president biden in 2014 and he actually gave remarks they are prayerless listen to those really quick. >> today, we pay tribute to
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offer sir rafael ramos. we pay tribute to their families because every day when a police officer pins on that shield and walks on the door, the officer's wife, husband, mother, father, brother, sister, children, they know anything could happen. the fear of that call at 3:00 a.m. in the morning, the relief of hearing the voice when the door opens and says i'm home. >> kayleigh: that's a very different person then what we have today. it yes, i will give president biden calling the families, that's a good thing that he did that but that president biden in 2014, we don't hear those words from the democrat party today and it's a real problem and illustrates to us from 2014 and 2022 just how far in just how firm of agrippa radical left has on this party
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and is president. you would not hear that speech today and that's very sad. >> harris: i would further that with politicians and politics. the politics are in a very different place. we don't know who joe biden is. i've met him before and would never profess based on professional conversation that would be able to guess some of the stuff that's come out of his mouth in the last year and who knows him well as mitch mcconnell. he says none of it surprises him because he really knows him so we don't know what that pole from the left, why are those voices so powerful when democrats of the first to tell you they were so few of them, they don't control them. >> emily: that's why it's so hard to digest because as ordinary americans, we're hearing something so starkly different. as vice president, he considered himself a law enforcement vice president, hosted members of law enforcement at his residence all the time but he
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has not yet met with one single police group in contrast with president trump within hours of his inauguration met with law enforcement groups and they had a shared agenda disclosing shared priorities but i think what we see it so emblematic of his remarks yesterday that he is just such a continued disappointment. everything that he touched on does not have a real or would not have a real effect on the crimes plaguing the city and minority in urban neighborhoods throughout the country, assault weapons bans and red flag laws and background checks have absolutely inconsequential impact on the actual crimes that are taking place in the cause is about das lack of prosecution so that the family courts for he says we have violence coming to you think that matters to gangs that are recruiting teenagers because they know they will get to family court? he won't even prosecute holding a weapon during a robbery unless it is fired. all of these things are so
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nonsensical and the president things red flag laws will make a difference. he is such a shell of whatever man he used to be or thought he was. >> harris: i did wonder and i still haven't seen any indication that it happened surreptitiously out of the public side but to what emily is saying, it would have been beneficial for the conversation to get solutions for the president to actually have some contact with that liberal d.a. and if you will forgive me, just got no microphone on caitlyn jenner. let's get her voice into the conversation. some talking about why wouldn't we have heard a burst of reporting? maybe we didn't see it but we certainly don't know about it. liberal d.a. alvin bragg and the soft on crime policies driving much of the recidivism that we see in the violence that we see, why not have the president at least address that if not meet
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in concert with the new mayor? >> caitlyn: honestly, i just thought it was a photo op for the president. he didn't say anything that i thought was important. he did say defunding the police is not the answer, but he supports every democratic mayor, every democratic governor who is into defunding the police. obviously including here in los angeles. we have a terrible crime problem here in los angeles, we have a district attorney, a george soros backed district attorney, george castellon who is in a recall right now and to be honest with you, i think everybody should support that. and they made over a 500,000 signatures to get rid of this guy. i want los angeles and california to wake up. we can fix this problem. it wasn't like this before. we have great police departments in the l.a.p.d., and the sheriff's department, alex villa
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nueva is an absolute superstar. he is trying to do what's best but his hands are tied by george gascoigne. he said the other day that punishing people in the criminal justice system just doesn't work. honestly, i would like to ask everybody here if the system doesn't work and you are the head, the d.a., supposed to protect the citizens of california and it is not working i'm a you pivot? wouldn't you try something else, maybe lock these people up? they are not doing that and i wonder what is the motivation behind these people? they are destroying the state and destroying our city. >> harris: the way that you put it and they don't have that recall situation here in new york so they are stuck with alvin bragg for now as far as we know.
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great to have your voice in the conversation, had a little technical difficulty but we got it worked out, superstar guest lineup today and we are so blessed for it. high drama as the beijing olympics get underway with a reporter covering the games just dragged off the air by chinese security. we showed you last hour and now we can talk more about it. there are growing concerns about our athletes and china's human rights abuses, gold medalist caitlyn jenner with her take on all the olympic controversy next. good to have you. and it's easy to get a quote at libertymutual.com so you only pay for what you need. isn't that right limu? limu? sorry, one sec. doug blows a whistle. [a vulture squawks.] oh boy. only pay for what you need. ♪liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty♪ ♪
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>> emily: is the beijing olympics are officially underway, we are learning that before the opening ceremonies were over, a dutch reporter was pulled off the air dragged away by chinese security in the winter games are under a cloud of other controversies like china's treatment of the uyghurs which the u.s. and several other countries including human rights panel have confirmed and argue amounts to. committing crimes against humanity like forced labor, forced abortions, and force childbearing as well as evidence of mass internment and family separation. at the same time, house speaker nancy pelosi just offered this advice to our athletes. watch. >> we are there to compete. do not risk incurring the anger of the chinese government because they are ruthless. i know there is a temptation on the part of some to speak out while they are there. i respect that, but i also worry
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about what the chinese government might do. >> emily: caitlyn jenner, former olympic medalist, what were your thoughts on nancy pelosi's comments especially that they seem frankly the strongest we've ever heard from her and perhaps too little, too late? >> caitlyn: it is too little, too late. i have been with this issue with the olympics from the beginning. i was two buildings over the 1972 in my first olympics in munich, germany, when terrorists came in and 11 israeli athletes wound up dying. when that happened, it made me so upset because the olympic games are the greatest gathering of countries in the world for good, for competition, fair competition between people from different countries around the
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world and to have the terrorists come in and take this and use it as their political tool to make a political point really upset me and honestly, that hasn't changed. four years later in montreal, it was pretty quiet but then what happened for years after that? 1980 when the soviet union was hosting the games in moscow and what did we do? jimmy carter said we are going to boycott because the soviet union's involvement in afghanistan. isn't that amazing? he was backing the rebels, saddam hussein, usama bin laden, giving them weapons to go against the soviet union and afghanistan. does that work? not at all. using the games as a clinical tool is not going to work. in beijing, this will all blow up on the chinese. i support the athletes going to beijing. i think they should. they worked their entire life.
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go over there and beat everybody else in the world. i think that's important. of course, the chinese are going to use as a political tool to make a political point. honestly, just not going to listen to what they have to say. i'm going to watch the great performances of the americans and i hope they do so well. we made a small gesture of not sending dignitaries over there and that means nothing but i'm glad they are going. >> emily: we are all team usa for sure and with the backdrop of the world's worst-kept secret of the of the chinese government there, one could argue that nbc is complicit in their continued coverage without even a mention. >> kayleigh: that is what is incredible to me. it's my view these are not the olympic games, they are the games. i'm not going to watch them and of course i support our athletes but i just don't want to be a part of it in what's happening in china and nbc in particular,
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you put your finger on it. let's listen to the things they are saying, josh grogan has really been on top of this, he tweeted about nbc trying to have it both ways and called it the both sides approach to the uyghur. western governments allege that systematic repression of muslim b13. a has to be said the chinese government emphatically denies all of this and say the accusations of are the lie of the century. nbc, why does it have to be said what china says? i worked in the united states government looking at these issues, there is a, forced abortion, sterilization, forcing muslim men to go to jail and then their wives married chinese men. this is a of a people group, we don't need to articulate chinese talking points. you're going to cover it, fine. >> caitlyn: here's the
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question, who would buy blame for this? i blame the ioc. the ioc never ever should have given the games to china. the olympic games have gotten so big and such a big financial responsibility the host country that there's just not too many countries that can host the games anymore. this woke world we live in what we have to do it in china, there's a billion people there. we have to cater to them, it's the same thing of the economy is doing and businesses are doing going over there. and it's a shame. it never should've gone to china in the first place because of their inhumane ways of treating their people and that has to change. we have the games in 2028 here in los angeles. it'll be interesting to see what happens in the next few years. >> harris: just a really quick question about that because of always been curious about this. why can't we come up with our
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own international olympic committee type of deal? if these people at the ioc have so much power and are only willing to give it to countries i can spend so much, that's going to put in the hands eventually of our enemies. we know that. two of them getting together at the head of the games, putin from russia, why can't we offer these world athletes a different type of stage and if the ioc doesn't want to see it that way, maybe we bring a consortium together? why can't we think something different up and do this differently? >> caitlyn: i would like to think differently, that's important. but i think that's almost going to be impossible right now. this committee has been in place for over 100 years of picking the olympic games, the ioc. i don't think that's going to change prayer they've got a grip on it. i think what we need to change is how much it costs to put on
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an olympic games. we have to downsize the games. in 1976, the rights that abc paid for the games was $25 million, the rights to broadcast the games. today, it's in the billions of dollars. it's just gotten too big and is out of control. one might give it to all the networks. >> emily: i want to get you in here really quick so the fbi director christopher wray has just warned that the threat of china is more brazen and more of a deep threat than ever before with the counterintelligence operation opening every 12 hours. >> rob: absolutely. you have to talk about the fact that is going on on nbc news. nbc is broadcasting the olympics so when you look at the corporate involvement, they are making billions of dollars off of this so they are reporting wanting to make it seem as if
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russia is one of the greatest threats to america when we all know based on what you just said in the fbi director said that the greatest to america is china. i love and respect these olympians, i hope we do the best but i think they are being fundamentally disturbed by the weakness of these leaders. that video from nancy pelosi was absolutely pathetic and i do believe that we should not be there. i know it's a controversial opinion but i don't think our athletes should be there and we should not be supporting this. >> harris: senator marsha blackburn said you actually give them a gift by sending our athletes and i want to protect our athletes. spending all of his time getting ready to go, i totally get that, we need to deliver a different vehicle and system for our young athletes. a lot of things were in place for 100 years and they changed. >> emily: such great insight. >> caitlyn: i agree with that, but it's going to be difficult.
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it's honestly very difficult right now to change what's happening in this country, the wrong people are in power and the ioc is the same way, the wrong people are in power and to be honest with you, i feel we have to pick better candidates here in the united states to run to change things and i think is the same thing with the ioc. we have to pick different people to be in those positions of power that are interested in doing what's right for the athletes, for the olympic games and that what's right for them in the host country. >> emily: perfectly said. moving on, 16 swimmers the university of pennsylvania are speaking out against their teammate arguing she should not be allowed to compete in the championship even though they support her gender identity. that's next, stay with us.
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transgender teammate should not be allowed to compete in the collegiate championship next month. they sent a letter to the school which said this. we fully support leah thomas and her decision to affirm her transition but we also recognize when it comes to sports competition at the biology is a separate issue from someone's gender identity. biologically, leah holds an unfair advantage over the competition in the women's category. thomas will likely still be able to compete by the ncaa's new policy on transgender athletes. go quickly, want to come to you on how the law sees this. >> emily: the point about this letter was essentially requesting they not challenge because it might prohibit her from competing in the landscape is that over 31 states have introduced similar bills requiring athletes to compete in the division that they were assigned for us the issue is one of discrimination which is
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because it's a constitutionally protected class, it is subject to strict scrutiny. however, two things. one, the school has said we don't respond to letters in general and secondly, there has been a few injunctive releases issued by the court so unfortunately, still a gray area but as these policies try to rely on medical development, the bottom line of the unfairness seen by many athletes and those especially in women's sports groups who are advocating for biological females here is where a lot of things are at play. >> harris: i took notes has always when emily gives us legal advice. biology versus identity is what they are saying that this shouldn't happen for leah thomas to be able to compete as a woman because biology trumps the way she sees herself. i've read a lot of comments by you and i can't wait to hear what your reaction is. >> caitlyn: emily is right, this whole area is a gray area. we don't know what to do.
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first of all, i respect leah thomas is right to live her life authentically, i hope she is happy lives a great life. when it comes to fairness, i've been very strong right from the beginning, biological boys should not compete against women, we have to protect women's sports. what i blame here is the rules, the ncaa have rules on testosterone levels that obviously don't work. leah thomas in her event as a guy, she was ranked 462 in the world. as a woman, she was ranked number one in the world so obviously, it's not working. so they need to change the rules. they kick the can down the road a few weeks ago and said that the governing bodies are going to make the rules. usa swimming came in and actually came in with a lot
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tougher rules on testosterone levels that have to be more comparable to what a woman has and i think that's a good thing. so leah thomas may not be able to compete, we will see, but it's the rules. this is a new subject. we are trying to get it right and i hope we can get it right eventually. >> harris: so do we put people in a different lane where they compete against each other, just quick, what is the immediate answer because he only have a few years of this level as an athlete. >> caitlyn: my standpoint, the media thing is i don't think she should be able to compete at the highest level. i just don't think it's fair. so i have no problem with that, let's rethink this thing and we will go from there. >> harris: they say they've got us back, jon stewart the
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with protection starting at $79 a year. well, we're new friends. to be fair. eh, still. >> emily: jon stewart is the latest celebrity standing by joe rogan as he faces the wrath of canceled culture. as stewart joining the rock, kevin james, jewel, and kat von d to support the controversial podcast are. this comes as high-profile musical artists including neil young, joni mitchell, and crosby stills and nash have been asked that their music are pulled in protest but this modifies ceo defending rogan as he faces pushback from his employees who want him gone saying "it's really critical to creators are able to use their voice independently and it's also critical that we have diverse voices on our platform. this modifies ceo, i love him saying i am not in the business
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of dictating discourse because you compare that to twitter ceo and facebook ceo who has taken an opposite approach. >> rob: talking about money, do you think neil young is making them as much money as joe rogan's podcast? probably not. i think that gets lost that this man is not a conservative or a rebel, he is a pretty mainstream liberal and the reason he gets attacked as he has decided not to use his platform to propagandize for every single thing the left wants him to and he also wants to talk to different people, the same thing that made people like glenn greenwald and tulsi gabbard. when it comes to people like jon stewart and others, it is them standing up against that woke far left culture that wants to cancel anybody who says anything outside of the propaganda that they push so good for these
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people for standing beside joe rogan but at the end of the day, not so much about joe rogan, it is about these people standing up against the far left and using joe rogan who is a controversial liberal leaning person to do it. >> emily: go ahead. >> caitlyn: i support joe rogan. i like his show, he speaks his own mind. this used to be a free-speech country before we got into this cancel culture and i would like to see him do very well and when you showed all the people that are leaving the spot if i, they look like they were leftovers from the '60s hippie generation so i guess that's what we are fighting against. >> emily: that is what we are fighting against. here's a name you haven't heard in a while, i will bring it up, marianne williamson, that whimsical self-help guru that
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ran for the democratic nomination. she came out supporting joe rogan and said i am triple vaccinated but banning someone's podcast is too much like burning a book. joe rogan should talk on his podcast about whatever he pleases and tulsi gabbard as well, i'm glad to see the left coming to his defense. >> representing everyone from jewel in the rock to kat bondi and mary williamson, tulsi gabbard and everyone who is leaving the spotify seems to be a bit more in the same group has caitlin pointed out so i think that goes to show at the end of the day what unites us is that commitment to free speech in public discourse hearing ideas and being thoughtful about it rather than a commitment to cancellation which are very specific group of people have. >> emily: i can tell you to people who won't be leaving the
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spot a five because they're $5 million for one episode so far so they are staying. more "outnumbered" and just a moment.
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>> president biden touting the economy as the job number is stronger than expected but
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inflation remains a top concern for voters. the president's chief economic advisor will be joining us, as well as charles payne. and canadian truck drivers protesting the vaccine mandate, you have seen the convoy. one of those canadian truckers is going to join us to tell us what he's taking issue with. come join john roberts and me as "america reports" at the top of the hour. ♪ work hard for the money, work hard for the money so you better treat her right ♪ >> how much is a good cup of coffee worth to you? starbucks is telling customers to break for price hikes due to inflation. seattle based chain is talking about supply woes and rising labor costs eating into profits. they have not said which drinks
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are affected. what is the go-to order and starbucks and how much would you pay for it? >> oh, good question. i'm just devastated by this. i went to the gas station and pay a buck 50 more and across the street is the starbucks and pay more there. no, i have a lot of go-tos. in the afternoon, a white grande mocha, i'm devastated they are raising prices again. you have to get on the building to build up points and get free ones. i would advise to do that. >> kayleigh, i'm a black coffee person but fussy about the beans, has to be a dark roast. $3, maybe 4. >> more, emily. my husband makes me coffee, black rifle coffee, it's fantastic. when i was pregnant, one cup of coffee a day, just one. i'll tell you, going to the
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starbucks in the afternoon was like a pregnant person's version of going to the bar and getting wine. i would have paid untold amounts, untold amounts, way more than $3. >> rob, what say you. >> i don't know. i don't know -- >> the tv industry, higher prices, yeah. yeah. >> so, i'm a new espresso convert, i don't have anything to compare it continue biden's america. i would say five bucks for espresso. >> pretty insane. harris, to kayleigh's point, the caffeine jolt is priceless, shell out bucks for that, harris. >> going with the offer to get the free stuff with the points. i mean, i could live all day for that, how do you get your points and it's free. i'm a dopio, like a half and half, flat on top, no foam.
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and if i make it at home, it's priceless. because i love doing it. i would not pay more than probably four bucks for that. >> i freely admit i get all of my coffee from the machines here at work, totally awesome, and a splurge of a cappuccino on the weekend. thank you everyone. "america reports" begins after the break.
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>> john: parents outraged after a loudon county school official said kids who are maskless will be charged with trespassing. >> sandra: strength of natural immunity from people who have recovered from covid. what will that mean for millions of americans, including our nation's school children. we'll have that for you just ahead. >> john: begin this friday with another alert, the january jobs report is out and it defied expectations. but that does not mean that everything is rosy for the economy.

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