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>> we are at a turning point in the fight over masks. even some blue states are now dropping the mandates and schools. the white house is still pushing to keep the safety of the american children covered. i am kayleigh mcenany and i'm joined by harris faulkner and emily compagno. we are back in studio. fox news correspondent
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gillian turner and then they have seed bret baier. for the states set to end their mask mandates in school with connecticut, new jersey command even the president's home state of delaware among them. amy weingarten, the president of the american federation of teachers, seems to be on board. >> i think we have to be talking about the off-ramp for masks. we asked for that conversation based on science instead of politics back in november before them a crown. nobody wants masks in the schools. not teachers, not students. but it's time and this covid pandemic to actually do a little bit of planning based on science as opposed to just announcement. >> the white house is still pushing for masking in schools. >> d.c. is still rub recommending masks and schools.
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>> and that is our recommendation. >> are you pleased with the new jersey governor's decision? >> are advised to every school district is to abide by public health guidelines. the cdc is still advising that masks can delay reduced transmission. >> masks for the kids but not for the white house press secretary. starting with yo, it's interesting you have the american federation for teachers. they are aligned seems to along the lines of work towards an off-ramp and i were not. if you're seeing all of these states, blue states bucking the cdc -- we know the cdc previously was at least having some of the teachers unions to review their guidelines on reopening schools. here's the chicago teachers union, they reacted friday after an illinois judge rolled temporarily called the governor's executive order on mask and quarantining. a brother statement read this, we suspect the mayor and cbs to act responsibly and uphold our agreement to require masks
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provided k and 95 masks for every child in the schools but this is what the overwhelming majority in chicago support. at least some of these teachers unions seem to be in line with the cdc. >> bret: this is not insignificant after you have governors and blue states turning the decision-making. science didn't change, the politics changed. that is what i think you're seeing a lot of places across the country, that people are saying wait a second, we've now seen study over a study overseas and here in the u.s. that site it is minuscule, especially for kids in schools. and the detriment from studies, including one out of london, says psychologically kids are really taking it on the back the ability to recognize and not interact properly.
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>> emily: and jillian i think that's exactly right. i think i was interested in this tweet i saw by michelle she works for kevin mccarthy in his leadership office, she said this, the democratic campaigns house arm, a memo went out today a leading democrat politicians that america has had it with mandates because it was really -- he had california, oregon all of a sudden out of nowhere and nothing change the science. >> gillian: you are right to point out that the science has been immutable for most of this. it has not changed. the politics has changed. the other thing that has changed, kayleigh, as were now getting more information about the effects all of these protected measures are actually having on the nation's kids. the question that states and cities now have to grapple with is when did those risks outweigh the proposed benefits. we know, for example, that
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anxiety and depression among children has doubled during the course of the pandemic. we know that suicide attempts by younger children under 18 are up 51% and landing the most children's and hospitals, in the e.r. rooms nationwide. we know eating disorders resulting in hospitalization for young girls under 16 have increased by over a hundred and 20% during the course of this pandemic. signed tests, the doctors are attributing all of that to the effects of isolation. this is now the key billion dollar question you could call it that state leaders, city leaders, and school leaders are going to have to grapple with. at what point do the new risks really outweigh the perceived or proposed benefits for our kids? >> that's right. this new study out of london come i think when we get daylight from covid-19 from this pandemic what were going to see is the absolute effect that
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covid-19 mandates have had on american children. kids reliant schools for school lunches, the list goes on. >> frankly it started spiking right away. i argue that it's actually not a recent risk. it's been happening this entire time. we've watched the tragic decline of the mental health of our students in our youth. contrast that with what is happening in virginia where we now know there's guidance issued to the principals in the school for issuing warrants for the arrest of youth if they don't comply with the mask requirements. it's a detailed plan on how exactly to obtain a warrant, how to serve law enforcement within 24 hours and included guidance for restricting parental involvement from the campus. here's what i find so ironic. in that same state we have a lot past that said we have to follow cdc guidance in this quote by that's part of that argument they're using to say we have to keep the mask get that same cdc
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reports 851% increase in suicide attempts with girls alone, 31% across adolescent. we have what's known as a river of referrals of mental health emergencies. we have the national academy of pediatrics calling it a national public health emergency grade yet this is the same resources the schools are using to terrorize the parents frankly and to ensure the kids are kept masked. now drawing in criminal law for it. it's absurd. unfortunately the collateral damage here is our students mental health and life. >> here's my question for the cdc -- well i have a lot but i'll keep it simple, just your point are the only singularly tasked? can these people not multitech's? you need to be able to take a look at all of those categories and figure out where the harm is. and this is a mighty number of harm. it's a percentage of harm that if you have 51% of anything
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overtaking a segment of the population you'd pay attention to it. like if it were covid's eagle sister you would pay attention to it. it's all mike rohn. you paid attention to it. can you not pay attention also -- i guess some people would pay it what are give the teachers unions have a problem with our health but we won't go there now. if you want to look at mental health as that category over 50% where people are suffering, why can't they take a look at that along with what they are doing? by the way, parents i'm talking with on the phone are telling me that this is more than just whether or not the white house believes in the cdc. this has to do with some of the parents don't believe in the cdc anymore garrett so what part of the cdc do you want us to trust? do you want us to trust the part where they said masks masks mask for the kids. by the way, the cloth masks actually don't work against all mike rohn, maybe they do but maybe they don't. it may aware to kyle, but need this certain kind of n95. were going to send them to every
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household but we can't get them to every household. were struggling with the post office to get it out and everything else. i mean this is less about whether or not the white house trusts the cdc, this is about whether american parents can trust the cdc along with the white house to have their kids best interest at heart since they are so singularly focused on one thing and not that mental health component. they can't multitask. >> on whether parents can trust the media. this sound bite is gone viral across social media. this is cnn alleging that the science suddenly changes as their main health expert. take a listen. >> i don't think anyone is saying that no one should ever wear masks. but rather that the responsibility should shift from a government mandate imposed from the state or the local district of the schools, rather it should shift to an individual responsibility by the family. >> quite a change from leanna when. harris, as a journalist don't get your perspective on this. msnbc, look at how they report when a mask mandate is lifted in
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virginia. we come backwards -- banning school districts from requiring masks. when new jersey government, a blue governor, says this is the right step. new jersey government left mask mandates. >> backwards towards trump when fewer people were dying from covid, when the vaccine had just come online and people were actually embracing about being vaccinated to protect themselves and not believing some of those on msnbc who said you can never get it, like rachel maddow. that's not what vaccines do. that's not what -- they keep -- they help you build immunity to whatever it is. if you get it you say a lot to stay alive do better. i'm confused about where the role of the media thinks it should be. i think they think they are bigger in our lives and we are part of the media. i know all day long that when i go to the local piggly wiggly if
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i'm in the south, if i go wherever i go to go shopping, people are happy. we see each other i want you on fox whatever. but i'm not the most important part of their day. you know what helps them? if i have happen to be in line and i have some facts i can share to share some life other than that, harris faulkner is just another shopper. that's how i look at people. >> i don't want to be too cynical here. i don't want to be too skeptical. but as we get closer to the midterms, this ability to provide liberty and say we are lifting all of this stuff, because everything is getting better. suddenly it becomes a political thing. and they're going to try and take credit for the change in covid, whereas what the data has kind of been there since the beginning. >> kayleigh: bingo. president biden tried to have the liberty from covid celebration last july. all right, vladimir putin making more global threats as the ukraine bases for its potential invasion paired by critics at
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>> russian president vladimir putin seems to threaten nuclear war if the ukraine ever becomes a member of nato. he's the one sitting across ukrainian border give it the word. the ongoing threat from russia comes as ukrainian soldiers refamiliarize themselves without a fight. particularly how to fight his arm army. ukrainian teenagers are being trained in guerrilla warfare tactics. back at home president biden is promising to squash the russian belt pipeline is for single russian troop crosses the border. finally we have a redline.
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critics like former u.n. ambassador, nikki haley kump sued the president is failing to stand up. >> interesting as russia and all the dictators are seeing an opportunity that this is the weakest president that america has ever had. if they were ever going to invade ukraine this is the time to do it. >> i asked the president why we waited so long to do this. i mean there weren't 15,000 troops at the border, there were already a hundred thousand. now lucas tomlinson last hour, our reporter said that they are encircling the ukraine body putting -- you know you've got to navel component to pollutant coming at ukraine. now i like why did we wait so long? what are you hearing from people you're talking with? >> that circling also includes training exercise with belarus with troops there. i think -- there was a hesitancy
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to get involved period. there was a hope against hope that they could get a diplomatic solution be or not to say that one can't still be made but the more and more you see the build up kind of the more expecting intelligence officials are that something's going to happen. the trick is that the president is definitive that standing next to the german chancellor -- what is that i think germany still getting 50% of his energy from russia. so when you look at that i mean who would they be loyal to? i know it germany decided to take more than 50% of its energy from russia and they are kind of stuck.
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we don't know what that solution is but they have to stand united. we'll see. it could be any day. >> i'm interested in knowing this. we were energy dependent up until 13 months ago and now we are not. so it's not just our own destiny that we can help in a moment of energy because our current is trying to go after michigan line five. but we can't help germany. we can't help anybody else. >> we are worried if russia invades ukraine what it will do to gas prices in the united states of america. it would skyrocket it would be a huge deal for consumers across the country. i want to point out something interesting i saw it earlier. if you remember the russian opposition leader who was poisoned, he did an interview from prison and he wrote this. i thought it was really interesting, his view of the way the west is handling russia. he said time and time again the west fall into wooden's
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commentary traps. it takes my breath away. he compared us to a frightened schoolboy who has been bullied by upperclassmen. he says the way we are acting in posturing is playing into russia's hand. it's fascinating to hear opposition leaders criticized boudin. who doesn't like boot to me criticize the way were handling this in the united states. i think given a pipeline he probably would've taken issue. >> harris: emily? >> emily: he's not wrong at all. it highlights that all of this is happening on the world stage. there are multiple areas of concern around the globe where those proxies are simmering right now and watching this as a litmus test for how far they can go based on our commanders action or inaction. just last week we had china sending 39 warplanes, the largest incursion this year into taiwan after our show of force. you have yemen rebels with a fatal attack and i would be just a couple of weeks ago. we have north korea just
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preparing to -- what is the phrase? i would make try get this right. preparing to confront the united states in their own version of maximum pressure. that's just the tip of the iceberg. we need a strong commander in chief. >> this is under the auspices of our commander in chief that literally has no backbone. all of these actors are waiting with baited breath to see how far they can go based on how much he lets putin run all over him. a quick point, she finds it fascinating with the stance against her in any federally subsidized millions of masks and at home covid tests that are made in china and supporting beijing. >> harris: i want to get gillian's take this idea of the world watching. >> gillian: i would say it's not only along russia's border with ukraine where the situation is becoming increasingly dangerous. over the weekend putin signed a
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new alliance of president jean shin ping of china. they are calling it no limits partnership. it sounds dangerous. they're going to work together to combat the united states together in cyberspace. all of this is very real ramifications for the united states. we talked about gas prices a moment ago. kayleigh, should russia invade the ukraine? these two countries comprise more than 20% of the world's gdp. so they have tremendous power to do a lot of harm. speak all right. i'll move on. my brain was just kind of going back to a time when you set outer space with former president trump and some of the mainstream media. and that actually is in the nomenclature now. it's justin trudeau versus
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truckers and an ongoing battle over a vaccine mandate. protesters claiming that justin trudeau is trying to intimidate them and vilify them as ultra right wing crazy. we'll get into it. stay close.
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>> individuals are trying to blockade our economy, our democracy, and our fellow citizens daily lives. it has to stop. >> he's a dramatic one. crowdfunding psycho fund me nearly shut down a nearly $10 million fund-raiser for the truckers. bret baier, your thoughts? >> listen, this is a big problem for prime minister trudeau. he's trying to say that in some of his other government officials have called these truckers terrorists. that's not the way that you talk to people who are expressing their rights and abilities -- these truckers have talked out about how this is not fax the anti-vaccine. it's anti-mandate. and you know it's really interesting to see how this
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populist movement is catching on not only in canada but here in the u.s. speak all right, so the freedom convoy truckers have said that trudeau and also the liberal north american media has unfairly act characterized them as demons, as right wing crazy. a reporter embedded with them for a week and he said they all right, it is totally false. >> justin trudeau is attacking people, the truckers. it is absolutely reprehensible. we see this from the american left all the time, we go through a basket of deplorable's, irredeemable's, we hold that credit from cleveland dell mike hillary clinton. this is just so uncalled for. i don't think it's a good luck comparing any of your people to terrorists. the daily mail has gone and they
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say we see nothing but the love, kids coming out they said they just simply haven't seen that. here's their leader calling them terrorists. >> right. on that note now we have a judge that is bad honking for ten days as justin trudeau's, everyone's favorite drama tests, saying they are trying to do dimmitt derail democracy. >> let's talk about democracy for a second. and republic since we are here in america. let's talk about the edges of when things start to come apart. brett was mentioning the fact that we could see this may be even here. tammy bruce told me last hour maybe we've already seen part of it with the 38 million people who quit their jobs last year. maybe that was a sort of silent protest that americans are making against vaccine mandates and the like. the other eating away at the edges of democracy silencing people and we know horn honking -- they are truckers.
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when someone drives by that's a sign of how are you are doing? right? that's friendliness, right? it gets your attention and that's what you do. so now you want to silence that is, that is their collective voice if you well. but the other thing that i'm looking at is the fact that democracy means that everybody plays a part, right? in some way, shape, or form. i don't think java -- you called him an elitist. he just doesn't appreciate people that she doesn't know them. you say they called truckers perilous well that we see something similar with the parent and the school board here. under the terrorism unit. we didn't call them terrorists -- really? why did i national school board association group have to apologize. we are seeing it and we can
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accept it. we won't accept this. we are having a similar conversation -- let's not get it twisted. maybe there some other things we have in common. >> that's absolutely. there's too a lot of participation in that cancellation of those voices. among them big tech. we have the give seneca founder who ripped big tech he said they are authoritarian. he's the one the front of the platform that everyone has been gravitating towards to try these truckers have received support. i want to just go back real quick to harrison's point a moment ago about justin trudeau himself. he know he's long faced accusations that he is elitist and out of touch. his father served as prime minister. he is friends with prince harry prince harry and meghan markle.
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he called the truckers white supremacists when we all know he himself was forced to apologize for wearing black face in the past. it's a big political problem for justin trudeau. he's gone out of his the white to position himself being against blue-collar workers who kept canada's economy afloat during the pandemic. kept all of north america up and running one might argue. i don't know how is going to overcome this. moving forward, neil young is not done speaking out after spotify's ceo refused pull podcast host joe rogan from the platform. up next how the aging rockefellers calling for a company lockout. ♪ ♪
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speaking out against spotify, now calling on the company's employees to walk out on their jobs. the rocker posted a warning on its website calling up the company's ceo, daniel ack. to the workers at spotify i say daniel ek's airbag problem not joe rogan. those comments come as spotify refused to pull joe rogan's podcast after young and others claimed he was spreading covid misinformation and a compilation video is shared showing him repeatedly using the n-word. emily, i think the real problem with joe rogan -- of course i don't ever agree with using that word, i think it's that he's just not caring the talking points of the democrat national committee. when you don't do that, when you keep the leftist talking point you incur the wrath of woke america like harry and meghan and indeed he has.
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>> you incur the wrath of the performative portion of all of those things. those people don't really actually care -- if they did we would see them deep in the communities addressing these problems. they would be addressing inequities in public school education and health care and the like rather than just talking and tweeting about it. what other things has he taken a stance against? >> i don't know. i also think this illustrates that the democratic party is having a big issue with -- studies have shown poles of his lot of commentary about the democrat party seeing certain members of its party, certain community is simply checking a box. they are filled with micro-aggressions because it's an elite class talking down to a certain group of a population like they know better than what the then you do. it's going to bite them in the polls because people are leaving
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that party in droves. >> i went to spotify this morning and i saw bill cosby i could still download sound from him, r. kelly, these are people if we want to compare criminal convictions in the case of r. kelly, -- >> harris: that is an interesting point about our kelly. i'm not just convictions. young girls. right? it's a predator type of behavior he's been accused of. in the case has been adjudicated in most instances. one thing i'll say is that daniel ek is onto something here. that is left, i'm going to allow the platform to host what we said we would and there might be some modifications. joe rogan volunteers to go back and clean up some of those past episodes. i would argue that daniel ek has others in the platform he needs to take a look at who dropped that same word many times. maybe that's the answer to it. i'll tell you the people this
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helps. it helps the network with dave chappelle because now they don't stand alone. helps will be goldberg. it's done the equivalent see ted taking some off from the past. they punished her with a suspension for two weeks. but if we start to cancel and shutdown voices rather than to allow more and better work to overtake the work that was wrong, then where are we going? were going to have a come lately conquests of society we can't honk your horn if you're a trucker at a worthless society we can express yourself however right or wrong. my father fought for the ability to be able to do that, right? but when you are wrong look, say i apologize. look, he apologized. he apologized for the "planet of the apes" comment. are we willing to move on? we've done a lot in this
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country. we could go forward. >> he did apologize -- exactly. we live in a scary time or you can just be removed from a platform and canceled out of society even with the policy. >> you read. i think all of the stories we do today have a thread about the canceled culture. neil young in the 60s and 70s fought for the freedom of speech. a lot of his songs deal with that. it's a different take now from him and joni mitchell and others who are speaking about artists being able to express themselves back in that time. >> you. olympian speaking out in beijing. detailing what they call conditions after being thrown into quarantine. the details are coming up. ♪ ♪ as a professional bull-rider i'm used to taking chances.
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>> president biden delivering remarks live from the white house one hour from now is his administration faces mounting challenge, including killing millions of open job positions. plus biden promising north stream two will be no longer of
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russia does indeed invade ukraine. will he stand by that promise and how will he do it? a live report from the pentagon. we await white house press briefing as more states lift their mask reside. jen psaki likely to take a question on that joined john amis has america reports at the top of the hour. >> dozens of olympic athletes thrown into covid isolation are speaking out about what they described as conditions. one posting a grim picture of what she said she's served three times a day for five days straight. she said it left her emaciated with her bone sticking out and she's hardly alone. >> the ambulance went to another facility.
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i don't think i can handle 14 more days of the olympic competition. >> after that terrible video went viral officials from the ioc stepped in and got her moved into the olympic village. just in time for the start of official spring training. jillian, your thoughts? >> this is one of the more shocking -- but i would say least surprising news stories out this week. this is the international committee just getting a very minuscule taste for how the chinese communist party treats people they have no use for. athletes are sick so they can no longer compete. kind of makes you shudder to imagine the living conditions in the modern-day concentration camps just 17 miles away where they have now processed more
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than 3 million ethnic uighurs in forced labor camps. it's a shocking and important reality and no americans in your appearance are a part of it for a two week period back. it's not surprising it's unfolding this way. >> bright, and a typical pattern coming out of the white house we have conflicting messages. we'll get your thoughts on the other side. >> we support our athletes 100%. all have the ability to freely express themselves. we certainly support their right to peaceful protest. >> remember that's in stark contrast to when speaker pelosi warned our athletes not to process. don't ruffle any feathers. >> to jillian's point we could all see this coming. when the ioc made this point to go to beijing games there should have been bigger push back. if god michael waltz in a number
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of people on capitol hill that said there shouldn't be happening at this time but this regime. it went forward. now you have all of these issues. and i think -- it sounds horrible. it sounds horrible be to be there. nobody is watching it. if you look at the numbers. you know i feel for these athletes who really try their whole lives every four years to have this moment. it's just not a good moment. >> hurt you put it out how the ioc is reported that not only is there a choke hold on the world game but they also have illustrations of corruption. they released a statement in response to the sink were aware of the complaints raised by some athletes and particularly regarding food temperature. a lot of corporate response there. >> i agree with jillian. the ioc is greedy.
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they did to deal with communist china notes not working out for the athletes. then you get the house speaker, nancy pelosi's singlet, while you're in the country trying not to say anything against china. she wants everybody to stay safe because that makes the president look bad. he let the athletes could make their own decision. the ioc is out of control. senator rick scott of florida saying let's take away their tax-exempt status. we've got to get the money out of the hands of the ioc. they've proven they are gangster and will deal would deal with anybody for the cash. okay? they're not can have athletes best interest at heart. i'm a little concerned, i saw craig melvin on msnbc walk into get his testing look like a spaceship. can we trust china to them to tell me if i'm positive or not? i don't trust anything they tell me. how do i know they're not taking some athletes out of the game so theirs can do better? editing is on the table. everything is on the table. the ioc only has its own backside to protect.
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i don't care what they say. look in the food, it's too late. you can join us can bring in like fresh laundry meals for these guys? no. gavin newsom scooped it all up. >> right. and the ioc is complicit in all of that. in addition to these athletes playing such a phenomenal price for this o2 is nbc with abysmal ratings. the games are on pace to be the lowest rated will be games in history if these ratings stay where they are and they should be. nbc should be a shame to some of the commentary. i've seen them on twitter engage in that trap called out china. i was reading fox's talk about what it would like to be in one of these camps. she said every woman under the age of 40 was raped. she was beaten to the point of bleeding and she had to have her ovaries removed. we can't just turn our head, this is. it matters. i'm not watching the games. it seemed like a lot of other people are neither. >> that is absolutely atrocious.
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adele indefinitely postponed her las vegas residency. the people are stepping up and offering ticket holders the next best thing. giving free tickets to come to watch their adele impersonator belt out the singer's greatest hits, this has to hurt. maybe she loves it. she's got to look down and, she's got the look down and the great voice, too, let's watch. judge for yourself. ♪ believe me baby, i'm feeling time and get the chance ♪ >> all things judging hollywood celebrities, i like to go to bret baier. >> oh, yes. everything. listen, if i owned the tickets i would be bummed out. i don't know if i would want to see the impersonator, even if it was free. most disturbed person about the
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whole thing, neil cavuto, a big adele fan. >> i did not know that. gillian. >> that impersonator is good. like i'm shocked right now, i can't believe it. i don't know what to say to you guys. >> i love adele, love everything about her, love her music, her ethos, i will die on this hill. >> so what did you think about the last-minute cancellation? you talked ethos. >> it's not great but i will say that was a dispute between her and her management and i think, and a lot of the cases the artists bring in big, big bucks for the management teams for las vegas and you got to give them a say, make them happy and go along with what they want to do sometimes. >> and you have to think of the people who want to see you and give them more notice. i will never believe she didn't have more notice. >> i've seen steve perry and the new arnel pineta, a similar
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voice, impersonator, you picture yourself there and it's awesome. i know it's not the same thing, but maybe it's a good close. i would say i don't want to see adele or adele impersonator. take me to tobey keith. >> tobey keith. ok, "america reports" here now. >> sandra: the great face masking debate takes another turn as more blue states relax their strict policies. announcing dates by which students in some states can ditch the masks. >> president biden at odds with some people in his own party, democratic hypocrisy the big headline, free the smiles. much more on this with dr. mark siegel in a few moments. >> sandra: another alert at the top of the hour, president biden with the new threat to russia to avoid an invasion of ukraine. but a

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